Has anyone been keeping up on Halo news?
I've sort of been out of touch since Halo 4.
I can't tell if they intend to finish the shit story from Halo 5 or if they wrote themselves into a corner and now are just rebooting the whole thing.
Any thoughts on whether Halo has any potential to be redeemed? Or is it still fucked so long as 343 is in charge?
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>spiritual reboot
Short for
>We ruined the series so we are remaking it in our own image.
I mean...what the fuck is a "spiritual reboot" anyway?
Are they going to drastically change gameplay while still moving forward like God of War? Or are they literally starting the franchise again at Halo 1 with changes to maybe be more aligned with the novels?
We'll never get a proper Fall of Reach game, I know that much. Outside of maybe a couple flashback missions like in ODST perhaps.
>trusting 343 ever
Halo was never good & the original is only remembered because it was the first western console game with online multiplayer. Prove me wrong
I'm not going to touch on whether the game was good or not. I feel that'll change depending on the person you ask.
Personally, I think it was the first console FPS that had decent controls. And really good enemy AI.
prove yourself right
Stopped at Reach, quick rundown on 4 and 5? How bad are they?
I bet it'll be open world
pretty bad
The OST is a gigantic part of it as well. Say what you want about the game, but the music was top tier in 1-Reach
Absolutely. Fucking. Retarded. Why didn't 343 just make their own universe from the VERY FUCKING START???? What a great way to waste years on trying to development their own shitty OC Locke while successfully destroying Halo lore AND fucking with Master Chief. MC's story ended in Halo 3, this is where 343 should've started their own world. Fuck I hate 343.
Burden of proof is on the claimant.
>a fucking reset button
What a bunch of incompetent and lazy buffoons. They fucked up the franchise so badly that they must delete everything, good and bad. 343 Industries has fucked up at every opportunity.
4 is honestly kino in its own way but it has a lot of flaws. Solid campaign but very questionable gameplay design and a pretty meh multiplayer.
5 totally fucked the story because they let a comic book writer take the lead. The gameplay design of 5 is pretty split as far as reception, some people can’t stand it and some people see it as fun and innovative. I’m somewhere in the middle honestly. Infinite could literally go anywhere, no one knows what approach they’ll go with
Hey maybe Halo won't be babies first fps anymore
>spiritual reboot
Haha, might as well just retcon everything in Halo 4 and 5.
Yeah, maybe it'll be babby's first battle royale.
Does anyone know what a spiritual reboot fucking is? It doesn’t mean they’re retconning everything and remaking CE you idiots. It just means they’re going in such a radically new direction as far as design and themes that, at its heart, it will be very different from halo 5. Why do people somehow think this is a rewrite fanfic or something?
Furthermore, isn’t this what people wanted? People complain for fucking years about how irredeemable halo 5 is and when they decide to totally change direction everyone calls them lazy and unfocused. Makes no sense
I'll take it to mean they'll stop fucking up what the previous games established and making them worse individually (which includes Halo 4 for christ's sake).
No, that's not enough, they must reshape the franchise in their own fucked up image.
That's not how burden of proof works pseudointellectuals.
Are you seriously trusting 343 to pull it off? You are extremely naive. It won't be a retcon, it'll be a rewrite. Halo 5 is a shitty add on the franchise. Halo Infinite is going to be fucking skinwalker pretending to be Halo.
It means they're trying to appeal to the old audience by saying it's a reboot, but it's actually going to be shit like Halo 5.
That very same shit you said also applies to Gears of War as well. Both franchises were given to extremely dogshit studios who ruin everything in the 2 series. Fuck them
>Does anyone know what a spiritual reboot fucking is?
It's a pretty vague term and they didn't really clarify what they meant by it in their statements in the article.
>make statement
>does not provide proof
>statement disregarded
>"b-but that's not how burden of proof works!!"
Why the fuck didn’t they scoop up Marty once Bungie fired him
Because Marty is guilty of public wrongthink and journos would give them a hard time because of it.
Petty politics, I guess. As a lib, I don't give a shit if Marty is a Republican. His talent matters above all.
He has his own studio
Where can you even go after 5? Forget wrapping it up, where do you go as a series from that point?
Somehow I think 343i will go the safer route and do a soft-reboot or sequel-reboot kind of deal. It seems to be the trend now, make a sequel that refers to the originals or is a glorified remake of it while keeping what the fans like before you fuck off and do something new, bam easy 10 million copies sold.
Plus when the next Xbox comes out I doubt they'll try to port Halo 5 to it or expect people to pay attention to the plot when ever Bonnie Ross said people hated the story.
>where do you go as a series from that point?
If it were up to me, admit the direction of the franchise is going is wrong and completely retcon all the post Bungie Halo content. Keep some story elements, sure, but delete everything. Start over from Halo 3 onward. Obviously, this isn't a realistic scenario and corporations will never EVER admit that they were wrong.
>halo 5 is shitty and not halo
>343 decides to go in a totally different direction because people didn’t like 5
>infinite is somehow shitty and not halo because of that
???
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>Art of Halo 3
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>Art of Halo 5
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>Art of Halo (Original)
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>Art of Halo (CE to Wars/Reach)
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>Art Compilation from CE to 4
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Lore:
>Warfleet
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>Halo Books
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Like FFXV. It will be a game for both newcomers anf old fans and give us the Halo CE experience in 2019
>Like FFXV
hopefully it will also be good.. would be a first for this shitty franchise.
Alright, Halo 5 is Halo CE +Halo 2 + Halo 3 + ODST + Reach + Halo 4 + even more shitty 343 content.
Infinite probably won't have any of that baggage beyond more artistic designs and story ideas. It won't be a cumulative product, building up from over a decade of lore and games. Knowing 343, they'll fuck it up royaly.
Buzzwords
Into the trash
Why don't they just make more prequels? There's an entire fucking space war they could cover with ample opportunity to just make shit up.
But noooo, we get 2 needless sequels to a finished fight that were so shit they already need to reboot the franchise.
This sounds like 343 specifically condemning their own work, Bonnie even admits that they screwed up quite a bit.
If you’ve seen the 343 social stream on the halo infinite trailer, you’ll see their whole angle is trying to restore the tone of CE and the original trilogy. They literally say that that’s the goal with infinite, the “reboot” is applying to what 343 has produced, primarily H5. It’s not like they’re starting from total scratch and remaking the original trilogy
Why do people forget Bungie literally set up halo 4 in the halo 3 legendary ending? Everyone who says the fight was finished with 3 has no clue what they’re talking about.
The set up might have been Bungie's but the execution is all on 343.
I wonder if they did it for MS or for if they ever wanted to return to it.
I like ffxv as a overall game with all the dlc's out although it clearly could have been a lot more. But it is more like we will get a new adventure with the chief on a new halo planet. The biggest threat called the flood returns and we must find a way to stop both the flood and Cortana while also the banished comes to say hi and Prometheans will be around. Zeta halo will be a total mess
>Reboot
On the topic of FFXV, it honestly nails a lot of what the original art direction for Halo was doing. It has the same sort of 'uncannily real' look while the environment is littered with things that couldn't possibly be.
Halo 4's story was fine as a continuation of halo and starting a new saga. What they should have done is had a boss fight against the didact that would have been memorable. I remember the flying moment of the last mission in halo 4 with the 117 ost as much as the warthog drives of halo ce and 3 with original halo ost. Halo 4 really had it's kino moments and was already a bit like halo CE. Chief+Cortana+unknown new forerunner world and new foe awakens. Halo 5's story is complete garbage. They should just retcon it and continue from 4.
So 4 and 5 being retconed?
What's Marty up to these days? Last I heard he was scoring that PSVR game Golem that'd slipped into dev hell.
I never played gears of war online in a competitive way. But honestly gears of war 3 campaign felt like a drag and I didn't even complete judgment. Part 1 was very good and dark. 2 was good but holy shit did the last chapter or when you went underground feel long. I remember thinking we were almost done and then it still kept going on and on and on. Gears hasn't been good for a while now. Gears of war 3 and 4 are good games compared to competition but for gears games they were not that good
343 is still fucking up, right at this very moment. What they should have done, and still need to do, is prove they can make a regular, been-there-done-that Halo game at all. They keep trying to make unique, interesting twists on a formula they haven't even made an attempt to understand so of course everything they release is shit.
Just make a normal Halo game. A boring iteration. And then when they inevitably fuck that up, learn from it. Try again and do it better. Then, only after they understand the most basic fucking elements of it, should they try to put twists in it.
But they won't do that. Yet again they're going to try to reinvent the wheel without the faintest grasp of what someone would use a wheel for or why it works the way it does.
Halo Infinite will be trash.
this is all barrys fault!
Guy who leaked the stuff on RetardERA about Playground doing a Fable reboot is saying that Halo Infinite has prominent RPG elements.
Fuck.
THPS3 had online multiplayer before Hao
4 really did have some kino moments. The mantis segment on the Infinity was great, as were all the little chief-Cortana moments. I’ll always remember Cortana asking chief who the real machine was before Laskey steals a pelican for you.
Not to mention the whole final segment of the last mission, the Arrival soundtrack really pushes you through as you realize not only millions of human lives are being taken by the composer, but Cortana is also on her death bed. Can’t wait to replay it once I finish replaying halo 3 on MCC
Was Gears 4 that bad?
>halo reboot with the 343 shitty fanfic lore
I can't wait
Why does 343 think that's a good idea?
>"Hey guys did you hear that the Playground guys are working on a new Fable?"
>Bonnie Ross: "QUICK WE NEED RPG SHIT WE GOTTA BEAT THEM TO THE PUNCH! WE CAN REVIVE RPGS ON XBOX AND HALO AT THE SAME TIME"
>mfw 343 make a Destiny clone after the failure of Anthem
Gears 4 has the best multiplayer in the series you absolute retard
There's a silver lining here. Halo 5 clearly would have worked better as an RPG will all the REQ loot shit being available in Campaign.
Gimme a quick rundown on what happened to Marty. I haven't been following Halo since Reach.
I've played it, the campaign is the worst in the series by far, the most boring and makes everything the characters fought for in Gears 3 mean nothing. Horde is P2W with skill cards locked behind lootboxes and the multiplayer, Jesus Christ it's the most unfun and unbalanced thing in the entire series. Alot of people gave Judgement shit but at least it was actually fun and felt consistent, Gears 4 was not in anyway and nerfs every weapon but the fucking shotgun to hell and outright remove weapons like they did with the Hammerburst as a starting weapon because some whiny Gnashtards keep saying it was OP which it wasn't because they keep rushing them and getting killed as a result
Bait
>Halo is now just a watered-down looter shooter to try and move Gamepass subscriptions
Thanks Phil!
The multiplayer was the same shotgun-fest it has been since 2, Horde mode was ruined, and the campaign's plot is literally "the Locust mutated into the Not-Locust and we gotta destroy them"
Gears 5 looks like its trying too hard to be Microsoft's answer to The Last of Us
Exactly. Halo 4 really went in the right direction besides the didact QTE. If they went further from there without all the autistic comics that made the didact come back alive and told other things we should know from the games. Halo 5's campaign really ruined the entire saga so badly. It is hard to see infinite get a good start from this
>Microsoft's answer to The Last of Us
Something has to be, honestly
Unironically would have been Halo 4 if they nailed the MP.
It’ll be rough, but I think the Created storyline can be salvaged and even made interesting if they have the right writers. But who knows, maybe a reboot means they’ll kill off Cortana in the first mission like they did with Jul in H5. We shall see
4 had hottest cortana that i beat my dick to many times
5 had least attractive cortana that i will never beat my dick to many times
never played either of them though **dab**