Home Invasion Games

ITS A FUCKING VIDEO GAME WHO CARES ABOUT IT BEING RELATABLE GO PLAY GONEHOME IF YOU WANT TO HEAR MORE ABOUT YOUR LIFE AS A LESBO

That would be even better. You start breaking in and claiming more and better homes...in the end of the game, YOU are the demon

Because it's a glorified flash game. Bush Shootout was fun in 2003, but it's 2019 now.

>WHO CARES ABOUT IT BEING RELATABLE

>It seems universally relatable and socially/politically relevant

only works if youre the guy committing home invasion

>socially/politically relevant.
are you trying to make a FUN game or just a political statement?

It would be problematic because the demographic committing over 50% of the crime is only 13% of the population

What should one do in a home invasion if you don't own a gun?

Leave house, call 911. If you don't believe that's a good plan, you should have bought a gun earlier.

a home invasion necessarily implies you are caught by surprise and don't have a fighting chance. there isn't a single "ordinary" person who spends their time at home waiting for someone to break in. acting as though your house is some strategic target that has to fend off dozens of attackers day after day isn't relatable or relevant to ordinary people

stop using words that you don't understand. at best this is the kind of game idea that you would see in some shitty asset flip meme game, appealing to the deranged fantasies of people pretending they actually have a purpose for owning military style weapons

This is unironically a brilliant idea.

NINTENDO HIRE THIS MAN

It would be a great idea for a few games. However, it would lose it's appeal the moment that people playing as the invader learned the map layout. The fun is going into an unknown territory and trying to deal with a group that can walk through it with the lights turned out.

theres already at least one. but more won't get made in any real large amount because this kind of thing is usually a result of an insane racist power fantasy, and nobody wants to deal with the potential flak that comes from it. i guarantee 90% of the gun owners on Yea Forums have fantasized about gunning down an evil black man stealing their video games or whatever.

SWAT 3 and 4?

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Better than black people who actually gun down innocent white people in reality.

just go and fuck your sister/cousin or whatever it is you people do. leave normal people alone

Because home invasions are nothing like a video game.

>boom boom crash
>two crackheads break in when they figure I'm not home or my car is in the garage
>they just want to steal jewelry or something
>appear before them
>they immediately haul ass because you probably called the cops, might have a gun, might have more people in the house, might own a dog, etc.

That would make a shitty game. It's not a Liam Neeson movie or that Fresh Prince episode where all the furniture goes missing.

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And the other 10% fantasize about their waifu getting BLACKED?

Never happened.

Fuck off racist. No black person has ever committed a crime in the history of mankind.

>tfw the same works with hackers and how they're the best to protect your systems since they know all the ways in

Randomly generated. Shouldn't be too difficult if the homes are small.

There already was an indie game like this called the Castle Doctrine. You essentially set up home defense systems in your house during the day, but you attack other people's homes during the night. If you reach the end, you gain money but a member of that player's family dies. If you don't set up a sufficient defense for your home, you lose a family member whenever another player makes it all the way through your house.

The developer was inspired to make this game when his wife was attacked by a dog, interestingly enough. He strongly considered purchasing a gun all the way through development. Whether or not he did is something he never revealed, though he does seem like the type who would seriously go through with it.

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>i guarantee 90% of the gun owners on Yea Forums have fantasized about gunning down an evil black man

I would honestly rather shoot communists.

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Tomb Raider 2's final level is this.

There was some cop or ex-military guy in Detroit who's home was repeatedly targeted by gangs for a period of a month or two. He went to bed every night wearing body armor and iirc shot at least two people trying to break in.

SHALL NOT

>He strongly considered purchasing a gun all the way through development. Whether or not he did is something he never revealed, though he does seem like the type who would seriously go through with it.

You worded this like buying a gun is some ridiculous thing for insane people

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everything about the modern world angers and confuses and saddens me and i just can't deal with it anymore tbhwyf

Hey man, just because Jamal is fucking your wife doesn't mean he's your friend.

Unless you don't have a gun and your bed is literally right next to the entrance door you have many precious seconds to work with to defend your home.

>owning military style weapons
nvm you're a retard and there's no point in talking to you. Any weapon is a "military style weapon," as all weapons were used by militaries at some point in time.

This board is full of limp wrist faggots who think owning a gun means you're some extremist stereotype.

God forbid I own one of the most useful tools ever created and am legally allowed to do so

>you just moved your white family into a sanctuary city
>It's MLK day
>A chimpout is starting because a white cop shot a black criminal who only had a fake gun
Can you survive the night?

Yell "I HAVE A GUN YOU BETTER FUCKING LEAVE" really, really loudly.

No, I have enough empathy to understand why a lot of people who have no experience with firearms and who have known nothing but scaremongering by the media might not want to purchase one. If you seriously can't understand why, with all the ridiculous legislation and propagandizing going on, then you're actively undermining the gun rights movement by calling people pussies instead of pointing out that they're just tools that have to be used responsibly.

Don't be retarded.

Knowing someone is trying to get into your house is fucking terrifying, It could be a good horror game

White people are the only ones to consider incest a crime. Funny how you let hollywood tell you it was common among, though, while entire non-white countries allow sister/cousin marriages.

>sanctuary city
why is this allowed

There was literally a game about this, where you took turns defending your home from invasion and invading other people's homes. I can't remember what it's called though.

Because ORANGE MAN BAD!

A lot of people die in their own home during a home invasion, user. The reality isn't always a nice ending. Sometimes it's just a kid at home, sometimes it's a single mother, or an elderly person. Sometimes the two crack heads don't think about consequences because why would they when they're breaking into houses, and they murder the home owner.

The sort of people who unironically dislike gun rights deserve whatever darwinism befalls their silly ass

Thats basically what Nazi Zombies was???

>Make your own home invasion game
>purposely make all invaders black lile irl
>wait for gamejourno fags meltdown
>free marketing
>become millionaire

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Damn, pretty true.

>describing exceptions to the rule

i always wanted a murder simulator
like thief but more fun

Don't do this in the UK, a guy was sued by his home invader after he threatened him with a gun made out of legos, and the criminal won because the lawyer was able to convince the judge that he truly believed it was a real gun and so his fear was real and thus damaging to him. I'm not making this up fucking google it. You're literally not allowed to do anything to protect yourself or your family or your property in some nations.

Because state jurisdictions shouldn't be constantly countermanded by federal authority. That would completely defeat the purpose of decentralized power in a federalist system.

You can't have the benefits of state power without the warts.

No, people like you do more harm by creating these false flag impressions of machismo over something that's a meaningful tool that can save lives. When you phrase it in terms of cowardice, fewer and fewer people will be on our side. When the number goes down hard enough, those rights are taken away because people like you allowed the scaremongering to fester instead of treating it with knowledge and education.

The only people I blame for receding gun rights are faggots like you who turn it into a masculinity debate.

>Variety of weapon models to choose from
>Customize weapons, weapon cleaning, model viewer
>Choose where you store your gun
>JFK reloaded gameplay - short segments of gameplay with detailed analysis of damage dealt, police report etc.
>Start off living off in some rural area to various locations finally ending up in Detroit or some shit
>European Extreme mode

You should actually look up how many break ins end simply because someone is in the house, and how many result in someone innocent dying before saying this kind of shit.

>expecting me to feel bad for brits
you had the chance to leave that dystopia in 1776

But we don't have the benefits of state power, we just have the warts.

Imagine being this cucked by your nation

JUST-

>When you phrase it in terms of cowardice, fewer and fewer people will be on our side.

Then let them die. If you are dissuaded from defending yourself because it made validate the words of someone you don't like, then you simply are not smart enough to remain alive. Don't pass on any genes, just politely remove yourself for being such a sensitive stupid fuckwit. Furthermore if your government forbids you from owning a gun, figure out a way to own one anyway.

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>make "take THAT whitey" counter game yourself
>not even a game, just a $30 download of nothing
>journalists still praise it
>SJW crowd buys it in droves to stick it to EVIL RACISTS
>never find out it doesn't have any gameplay because they don't play games
>become billionaire

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I don't believe you, because I can't find anything about it.

>Having no experience means you should never experience the thing you have no experience in because its uh...dangerous if you have no experience.

>exercising basic rights
>machismo

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There was another instance where several nogs tried to break into a senior's home, and he got in trouble with the law because he called them niggers while they were doing it. I don't remember if he was sued by them, was fined by the government, or imprisoned, but he went to court and the entire focus of the event moved from him having his life and family endangered to him saying a naughty word.

Found it! It's called The Castle Doctrine, appropriately enough. It's like a weird asymmetrical multiplayer puzzle game where you take turns fortifying your house to protect your loved ones, and go to other people's houses to steal their loved ones.

>home invaders are literally watching you be arrested for a hate crime while holding the things they stole from your house

OH SAY CAN YOU SEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>Because state jurisdictions
isn't it local?

Then don't complain about legislation that removes guns from citizens if you don't respect the rule of law. You can't deliberately ignore education and still cry foul when misguided legislation is passed by the next generation.

If you're too lazy to educate people on basic gun safety, then you shouldn't own guns in the first place.

As opposed to you fantasizing about sucking evil black dick?

Sounds like Rainbow Six Siege, from both perspectives

Get the old sega mega deive game home alone. You setup traps n shit for when the robbers come. You have to defend the neighbourhood so go to different houses it was good.

>EE mode
>No guns
Oh god

Wtf do you do with other people’s loved ones when you get them

The player finds them in a pool of blood, whether they're his wife or his son or his daughter. What do you think happened to them?

To hammer the point home, the dev deliberately leaves it ambiguous. The only thing that's a fact is that they're a corpse by morning.

Only if the gunplay was like in Receiver. Also with a twist of the police coming after your ass if you just execute a burglar who surrenders to you

I can't find it either but it was floating around fairly regularly in semi-political circles 5-10 years ago. Have this as a consolation prize.

>In early 2018, a 14-year-old in the San Diego area of California posted a picture of an AR-15 rifle that was made of LEGOs along with a caption that read, “Don’t come to school tomorrow.”[3] When another student requested that the picture be removed, the poster refused. Police eventually tracked down the student and placed him in juvenile detention on a felony charge of making a criminal threat.

>make joke in poor taste as a kid
>entire life ruined

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Depending on what state or country you're randomly spawned in, the cops should come for you regardless of what the circumstances are.

I'm not saying that never happened, but you do realize how you look when you make a claim like that but can't find any source to back it up?

yeah well nigga fuck off it's the UK, you can get in trouble over a butter knife or a leatherman over there, have some suspension of disbelief for a plausible event you shitter

My point is that if you claim that something believable but fucked-up happened and no one can find proof that it actually happened, that makes people less likely to believe stories like those in the future. If you keep on pushing stories like that, then similar stories are treated with skepticism even when they do have a source or two. You should know that.

>Then don't complain about legislation that removes guns from citizens if you don't respect the rule of law.

I won't, I'll buy and own guns regardless. The sheriffs won't enforce the laws. Nobody will follow them. This is a common phenomenon in gun law.

That's all well and good then. If there's ever a congressional order, then don't complain about that either. If there's ever an executive decree, don't complain about that either.

Let me make this perfectly clear: You forfeit your right to bitch about anything related to gun laws if you don't care about the law. That should be pretty obvious.

The point wasn't even about the story, it was that scaring a criminal in the UK can get you in legal trouble, that the criminal has more legal rights than the victim over there.

The closest I can find is this: telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1335698/Misuse-of-toy-guns-to-become-a-crime.html

Then you put the defenders in a position where they don't know the house either.

Whether one cares or not about the law doesn't matter, as the law cannot void natural rights. If he cared and the law fucked him over regardless, would you then say that it's just? No.

BING
BING
WAHOO
That's all it takes for a plumber to break into your home.

>You forfeit your right to bitch about anything related to gun laws if you don't care about the law

According to who, you? Faggot

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>have to rig up more violent versions of Home Alone traps to defend your house
>oil slicked floors that lead to a pile of used heroin needles
>trip wire that triggers a swinging log with kitchen knives and forks duct taped to it
>pressure plate that swings the floor down and drops the intruder into a vat of boiling maple syrup
>vibration sensing handrail that releases a dozen 16lb bowling balls down a flight of stairs
>final last stand defense consisting of you with a maglite flicking it on and off in the intruder's eyes while the 911 dispatcher puts you on hold

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One person deciding his God given right to self defense is more important than what bureaucrats 500mi away decrees doesn't change the fact that many law abiding citizens will begrudgingly throw away their right simply because the government says so. This is something to be upset about.

I want a home invasion multiplayer game with like 2-3 invading players and 5-6 family member players. The criminals have to keep the family members in sight and hold them up. If they kill family members they receive huge penalties in their score if they are caught or killed by police. Family members have to try to resist with different kits. Dad might be able to locate a revolver in the house, mom can use the house phone while the daughter can use a cell phone to call cops, and maybe the kid can set goofy traps or some shit. Just a real cluster fuck of everyone screaming at each other in local chat and then everything going to shit in a minute after the cops show up.

That would actually be fun to play and watch. Especially if the cops are players too.
>FBI OPEN UP
>burglars fled from back door, cops shoot the family in sight
5/5

desu I'd be surprised if something like this wasn't already a game in roblox or minecraft or even a weird offshoot of trouble in terrorist town source mods.

>see man with gun
>he's shouting over voip
>scared woman and children near him
>also shouting over voip
>blow him away
>MISSION FAILED, WE'LL GET EM NEXT TIME

It'd be like SWAT 4 with the hostages as other players.

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This post gave me joy to read, user. Joy.

>452895147
>>they immediately haul ass because you probably called the cops, might have a gun, might have more people in the house, might own a dog, etc.
yes, because the people breaking into a person's home are completely sane and logical people that definitely don't have a few screws loose

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Sam Fisher isn't an "ordinary person" though so it only lasted 10 seconds

>playing as a cop responding to burglary in progress
>a loud burly voice comes from behind you from a closet
>quickly blast the thug coming out before he has a chance to shank you
>it was actually a neckbeard playing as the family's daughter
Hmm.

yeah nobody who lives in a non-warzone has ever had their home invaded

>shouting at family not to move or I'll blow them away
>one of them dares me to
>buddy next to me kills the kid
>"The fuck dude?!?"
>"We've lost the last three rounds. I'm tired of dealing with him."
>Kills the dad too
>"Anybody else dies if they move"
>Suddenly house erupts in gunfire as the guy looting the safe gets killed by SWAT players
>I turn around and start shooting them through the patio glass
>buddy gets an axe in the face from the mom who had hid that shit earlier
>I fucking bolt it out of there and get killed by a motherfucker playing as a pitbull

Again, I understand your point because I already agreed with your point. You're doing nothing but engaging in a circlejerk if you share stories like those to people on the fence but don't have a source to back it up. At the very least, do you understand that?

The flipside would be great too. You know there's innocent civilians in the building, so you're cautious, and as you're approaching a room you hear some guy freaking out and screaming at you. You tell him you're the police, drop your weapon, stay calm, etc. He rushes out guns blazing and you hesitate for half a second and get your brain drained by a .357, and as you die you hear the same man shouting OH NO, IT'S A COP, I DIDN'T MEAN IT, I THOUGHT YOU WERE THEM, OH GOD NO

Fuck off with your /pol/ shit.

Spend 100 bucks on a house in Detroit (in the neighbourhoods where houses cost 100 bucks)
Buy an AK-47.
Have fun playing that game every night.

>Coon Platoon

Have you played a tower defence game before? Tower defence would imply you'd do some kind of Home Alone shit setting up traps and automated defence systems, not just sitting your ass in your bunker with your gun in hand.

to be honest there's probably a lot of shitty areas in Detroit where you could legitimately do this, pay for cash up front with a fake name just in case, and just sit in the dark chain smoking and drinking straight vodka and just kill a couple nigs every week or so, and the cops would never, ever do anything about it. Sit in there in the dark with a budget armor vest and a cheap automatic rifle and just sate your blood lust consequence free.

What if your home is your tower, semenbreath?

It should have absolute darkness without light sources. Sure, there will always be gammascummers, but I don't think it would be an issue for a non-comp game. Would make hiding and identifying a challenge.

You'd need to spend much more to make it look like a place worth breaking into. Those 100$ ones are already trashed, littered with shit and needles.

>not just sitting your ass in your bunker with your gun in hand.
The first level of every tower defense game is doing just that. You always have dick for resources that's just enough to buy 2 or 3 shitty towers or 1 kind of good tower at some bend or choke point.

Give me a source so I know you're not talking bullshit

>You'd need to spend much more to make it look like a place worth breaking into. Those 100$ ones are already trashed, littered with shit and needles.
No man, the run-down houses are always the ones that are most frequently broken into because the invader feels less intimidated by security systems or armed inhabitants. Google "broken window rule" if you want to know what I mean.

>to be honest there's probably a lot of shitty areas in Detroit where you could legitimately do this
I know for a fact there is. Atlanta and Chicago think though you need to put stuff in the house (flat screens, rims, bits of gold) and you have to be seen putting stuff in the house to get the locals talking and monkey shining

After that you're going to get at least one home invasion, perhaps four or five depending on hwo intelligent the natives are.

I like that but I think it should have the possibility of light, but rarely. Like there might be a little outlet nightlight in the kids room sometimes, or maybe somewhere in the house a small shitty flashlight might appear, or more often a cheap lighter. While the cops have barrel mounted flashlights, but the intruders have a chance to also have flashlights, to confuse the family so even if they've played it a lot they're never really sure who's approaching.

Okay but last time I recall TD games have more than one level.

Because niggers and spics would protest about being the only enemies.

Do you think pulling up to the house with a nice enough car would be enough to warrant a home invasion? Though I guess just bringing in a couple cheap flatscreens would probably be enough. I'd just hate to have to lug shit into a house and pretend it's actually being lived in just to bait monsters.

If I were making the game, I would accurately represent the ethnicities based on real-world crime statistics. I would stand my ground against the mainstream media and fight the good fight.

That's why after the second level you start having the option to either go for more conventional defense, such as body armor or larger weapons, or silly things like grenades hooked to a doorknob or a swinging ironing board with a butcher knife stuck through it. The possibilities are only limited by what your imagination in a no-rules home defense situation allow. Motion detecting .50 cal MG hidden in the bushes lining your house. Claymores lining the fence. A drone with a pistol attached to it you control from a terminal in the house. Any sort of modern day improv absurdity you could think of.

>I like that but I think it should have the possibility of light
That's what I meant. Usually lighting in games is pretty shit and you can see everything even in the darkest night. The burglars would have an incentive to turn off the lights later so they would not be sniped and to disorient the cops, and the family would turn them off to hide or on when the cops are assaulting.

I'll take your word for it then. They must be pretty desperate to break into rundown buildings though.

It's basically just Rainbow 6 Siege

Because that game would last all of 15 seconds, you dumb fuck.

>They must be pretty desperate to break into rundown buildings though.
We're talking about literal meth-heads here because the poster mentioned Detroit. So yes.

I like that idea. I thought of the lights being shut out permanently for whatever reason, like conveniently the power went out so burglars decided it was a good time to rob houses. But if the family has the option of turning off the lights to disorientate the invaders I think that'd add a lot to it, especially if there was a small chance of them having a gun of some kind. Leaving some lights on and others off could give tells to the burglars, like maybe they're hiding in the rooms that are dark, or maybe they're camping in the lit room cuz they found a gun, or vice versa. Maybe they're hiding in the closet in the lit room and have no real defense other than a bat or something and are trying to mind game the burglars. A game like this could have a lot of strategy and subterfuge that has to be decided on and acted on in a really short time frame.

And you would be called a racist for stating facts. Progressives seem anemic to them.

You'd be surprised by how many break ins are done by people not presently on drugs. A lot of them are done by guys tweaking for their next hit and desperate. But even those people will know that a dilapidated broken place will be easier to hit than a big, well lit, gated house.

God the salt would be hilarious if it was realistic

>let them take what they want
>survive 99.98% of the time
>insurance covers the loss

>escalate the situation
>death odds increase exponentially

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The house should have all the normal functionalities too, like a fuse panel and a power line for the cops to cut.

>Family's 3-year old keeps running around and the burglars wont bother to contain him because he can't use a gun on them anyway
>fucker runs to the main power switch of the house and keeps turning it on and off

Not with realistic gunplay, like in the Receiver. On top of that, having to land vital hits like the heart, spine, brain etc to stop the target fast enough. They might bleed to death in minutes if you magdump their general direction, but it might not save you from getting stabbed.

If it were realistic you'd probably survive mostly unharmed maybe 80% of the time, but a decent portion of that 20% would be you getting beaten up or raped if your character was a woman, or just outright killed. You should get bonus points for that, though.

>"Did the right thing!"
>Dead
>Life insurance payout to next of kin XXXXXX dollars
>No media coverage depending on race of assailant

oy vey you can't just go around defending your property, that's racist! Just wait for the police goyim, life is precious.

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You're thousands of times more likely to die in a car crash than by home invasions, and that's even with drug dealers and ghetto shit shacks flubbing the numbers.

Asymmetrical gameplay is a big favorite of mine, but asymmetrical gameplay for even the same team is even better. A character who can only fuck with the enemy by messing with the environment while hoping they never bother to do anything with you sounds awesome, but I don't think having a giant point penalty of some sort would be enough. Killing the toddler or even just restraining him should buff the rest of the family somehow, like they're far more likely to break out of any restraints, or they get increased health or damage, or even all of that.

Hurting the baby should be a big deal, but letting the baby player do whatever the fuck they want should also be a big deal. Maybe the toddler can interact with the phone and have a small chance to dial 911 when they do. Maybe sometimes they can't reach a phone because it's too high up, but the possibility is still there. Make the enemy make a shitty choice early on. The toddler player can be a sacrificial lamb that allows the family to survive and win before the cops get involved or possibly just be a giant thorn in the buglar's side.

There's something about an accident compared to another person doing something terrible to you that sort of makes this statistic meaningless.

It really doesn't. It makes you feel like it doesn't matter, but it's the equivalent of building a fucking crash cage into every car, except way less impactful. We have laws and police. That eliminates like 99.999% of people just walking in and killing you, the statistical remainder is the same as worrying about fucking lightning bolts zapping you in the dick three times in a row.

Police don't prevent crime. Neither do laws. People who are willing to do awful things to others aren't going to be stopped by those things. They're just delayed punishments at best. The average response time for police in the US is slower than pizza delivery. Even if your estimate is true that still means over 300k people in the US are willing to just walk up to you and kill you for your cell phone and wallet, and this happens often.

Also I hate that you think the mere existence of laws and police is why so many people don't do something like that, and not just that most people are normal and good and not violent barbarians that only think in terms of hours or minutes and short term gain.

Because americans want an excuse to use all the impractical guns they own.

The 2A literally says "shall not be infringed," and the founding fathers saw fit for regular citizens to own not only such monstrosities of the time as 8 shot rifles, or triple shot pistols, but also cannons. The founders of the USA intended for its populace to have and bear the same arms any government might also bear. You can't topple tyranny otherwise, and defending oneself is just as impossible unless you can arm yourself with the same weapons the lawless would have.

Lmao. It's pretty simple. The odds of you dying increase more by just owning a gun, then your odds of fending off a home invader with a weapon.

There's literally nothing wrong with owning a gun because it's fun, it's not different to owning a sports car. But saying you own a gun for protection is like saying you own a sports car to help protect yourself from, say, an incoming tornado. Your more likely to wrap it around a pole on your next late night pizza run then actually using it to run from a tornado.

Just deal wit it. Guns are awesome. Sports cars are awesome. Your more likely to die owning either of them. Stop pretending you need a reason like safety to own them.

>impractical

I don't think that stat boosts would be necessary, but hurting a baby or anyone else too much should remove some limits from the family and cops, legally speaking. Going by US laws might make it a bit too easy for the family though. I don't know about SWAT protocol, but I'm under the impression that hurting a hostage is an automatic green to assault. Depends on the country as well. Not every situation would devolve into that though, as the first cop to show up might just be responding to a silent 911. Phones should be limited to give the robbers a better chance. I suppose that calling 9/11 would just play scripted voices in sequence, the breaking of which would change how the PD responds.

A game where you play a pupper in that scenario would be great.

Actual thinking here. An actual home invasion would get stale fast because it's literally camping the game or "escort missions repeated forever". Pupper home invasion survival where's it at. Surviving the invader, AND the police. Just a whole neighborhood of home invasions happening at once and pupper gotta get through it all

>lets take all the suicide and crime statistics and apply it to all gun owners regardless of other factors like race, neighborhood and affiliation
Might as well not use seatbelts in that sports car either amirite

>dude my AR15 totally has practical uses
>no I don't use it for hunting or pest control
>I just shoot it at the range and keep it around in case of the very unlikely event my nice suburban house is set upon by hordes of criminals.

>game set in France
>no guns only traps and melee weapons
>have to hold the house for 2 hours against wave and wave of muslims trying to rob you
>police finally arrive
>you get arrested

The defense danger balance is good too. You can bite the invader to temporarily take him down, but they have guns and you have to be close to get a bite in as well as only being able to bite one at a time and bites can't just be quick nips to be worth shit.
Add in smell mode to sense other rooms and locations for sneaking. A bark mechanic that can call and alert your humans but also can attract the invaders.
Plus make the game a black and white dog vision aesthetic.

And that legislation makes no sense in a modern context. Fair enough when the US was a literal warzone, but the availability of guns in the modern US serves little purpose. The founding fathers would probably be disgusted if they knew about all the mass shootings happening in their country because of retarded gun laws that only exist to appease a bunch of hicks.

people use and have used ARs for home defense

>I'm under the impression that hurting a hostage is an automatic green to assault.

I like that idea too. The burglars can hurt the family to help them get the goods and get out quicker, but once the police shows up they're ready to rock and roll.

Guns don't cause crime or mass shootings, nor could any law remove the hundreds of millions of guns in the US. Suppose you did and you get knife attacks, arson attacks, trucks of peace... and you'll get even deadlier results with arson without ever catching the fucker if he planned it well.

different rulesets for different states/countries would be cool

Exceptions rather than the rule. Also in how many of these situations was having a gun REALLY beneficial? As others had said, most burglaries are not violent home invasions, but bumbling retards who run off at the first sign of danger.

man it's like this guy didn't follow his own discussion chain lmao

That's literally rainbow six siege

I like this theoretical game that you guys are chatting about. It sounds like it would be a fucking nightmare to balance and keep it from instantly turning into "robbers just brain everyone within seconds of round start" even if it was a point penalty or faster/greater police response.

all the militia groups are bootlickers and will never overthrough tyranny that has been leaking in since the 50s

>in a modern context
Yes it does, and the present makes no difference for what the founders intended.

>but the availability of guns in the modern US serves little purpose.
The intentions of the populace being armed wasn't just defense against criminals, but also the government.

>The founding fathers would probably be disgusted if they knew about all the mass shootings happening in their country because of retarded gun laws that only exist to appease a bunch of hicks.
The founders would be disgusted that we allowed the nation they fought and bled for to be overrun with niggers and spics for no other reason than because media made us feel bad about not doing so. Going by any common definition of a mass shooting, people the color of feces commit far more of them than whites. Ben Franklin, a founder, stated very clearly that those who would give up their rights for security deserve neither.

You would sacrifice that which allows law abiding citizens not only their right but also their security (guns to defend themselves), for the security of allowing the government to be the sole monopoly shareholder of guns. You're a fool and you're unamerican. The founders would be disgusted by you. Giving up your right to hold in your own hand the most deadly, lethal, violent tool, simply because you think yourself and others around you shouldn't have it just cuz other people do wrong with it makes you a fool. You would never make the same decision about anything else. You would never decide that people shouldn't have cars because they have car accidents, or purposefully run people over. You'd never decide that people shouldn't have pets because sometimes those pets attack other people. You'd never decide that people shouldn't fly because sometimes those planes crash.

But I can't have a tool that keeps me and my family safe because you think it "serves little purpose?" I'd kill you if you stepped on my property and tried to dictate my life. That's its purpose. Faggot.

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>knife attack where maybe 1 person dies
>mass shooting where 60 people die

I agree that guns are so entrenched in america, that you can't simply remove all guns, but exercising some basic gun control is a good start to curb needless violence. Also about so called "trucks of peace", terrorist attacks in europe would be far worse if radicalised muslims had the same access to guns as your average american. Remember the Pulse Nightclub incident?

And arson is a pretty inefficient way of performing a mass killing.

My dream game is Deception but you play as Kevin McAllister.

It's late and dark at night so how do you exactly know that a burglar is just going to steal your shit and leave you alone? If he's a nutcase who won't hesitate to shank you then it's too late by then. What if he brought friends and thought he could take you with numbers?

All militias are honeypots filled with alphabets, no shit. You can't declare a militia and have it not be raped by the government. The only proper militia is that which you form by knowing your like-minded neighbors.

You're forgetting all the knife attacks around the world that have killed more than many shootings or attempted ones. As for arson, it'd be quite easy to lock people inside a theater or a nightclub and torch it. Pyrotechnic accidents have killed dozens in the past. Remember that people usually die from asphyxiation first, not the flames.

RE4 did this in the cabin chapter

Make various missions based on owners. Family pet vs robbers, single lady pet vs crazy ex, drug lord guard dog vs the feds.

Realism is shitty. I'd rather defend a base from zerg.

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>muh home invasion
What a pitiful power fantasy, is it that common in America? Literally doesn't happen in my country

Because home invasion is a violating a shitty thing. Try pitching your idea to someone who lives in a bad area.

Security Simulator

>I agree that guns are so entrenched in america, that you can't simply remove all guns, but exercising some basic gun control is a good start to curb needless violence.

Literally what libtards have been saying for the last 40 years and all it's done is nothing but remove guns from law abiding citizens while criminals continue to use them. Chicago, Flint, Detroit, are warzones despite being heavily gun regulated. School shootings happen despite being gun free zones. Laws don't do anything. Criminals will keep being criminals. Gun law after gun law after gun law is passed and nothing changes. These laws don't take guns away from criminals. Fucking think about it. They're going to commit a crime. Why would a law stop them? Most guns in mass shootings are illegally obtained.

Also, most deadly gun crime is committed by a hand gun, by blacks in inner cities, and yet all of these gun laws are against rifles and targeted towards primarily white demographic zones. Makes you think.

>no-no I need my guns incase the gubment or brown people invade!

Oh so you're just a delusional racist then? That's your reason for owning a gun?

The 2A was drawn up in a very different time than contemporary america. When the most common gun was a flintlock that took half a minute to reload, when the country was just flat out unstable, when the government didn't have a proper standing army and relied on civilian militias, when the threat of another foreign invasion was a reasonable concern.

The 2A absolutely does not pertain to modern america and retards just use it as an excuse to own guns they don't need.

>Oh so you're just a delusional racist then? That's your reason for owning a gun?

Not gonna bother reading the rest of your post if this retarded faggot baby shit is your go to initial response. You're not going to shame me into giving up the one tool that equalizes the playing field. Go live in Detroit for 6 months in a flat by yourself.

Based long con man

>muh 300 year old document written by syphilitic slave owners
What a fucking backwards ass country lmao, second only to middle eastern shitholes

A game in the vein of hitman/thief but instead of there being a huge map or anything you just break into a single house to kill one or two people, with the goal being to do it as silently and with as little evidence as possible. Pets/Alarams/other people would serve as obstacles as well as trying to find your way around the house without making too much noise. Houses would get bigger and bigger and some levels would be in apartment complexes where you'd have to make minimal sound not to alert the neighbours.

>muh magna carta

>the second amendment allowed citizens in the 1800s to own the same type of equipment as the newly formed US government and the British government they rebelled against
>somehow this isn't valid in the present because user things guns are more hurty now

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Where are your private nukes?

Except most burglars don't come when people are home. And those that do probably do it by mistake and run off in most cases.

Yeah and on average mass shootings are much more deadly than knife attacks. Tell me, what is easier to kill with, a gun or a knife? Also if mass arson attacks are so easy, then why are there very few reported cases?

Yes, but increased gun control isn't going to increased violence in those areas? The point is curbing mass shootings but retards who get their hands on guns. Gang violence is another issue and is probably so bad because the US has such retarded gun laws in the first place.

ohhhhhhh fuck, a SWAT type game with different home invasion scenarios. 3rd and 1st person shooter. One level is you as a granny. Slow to load bullets, massive recoil. Hidden Achievment: Defeat the home invader in time to catch the end of your soap opera.
Another level as a fat hick.
Another level WACO. Mission: Defeat FBI invaders.

Someone make it

I've killed hogs with an AR15 dunno what you are smoking yurofag.

Nukes don't exist and even if they did no nation would nuke its own soil as it completely defeats the point of trying to regain control of territory.

exactly the point of the second amendment, if I want a mcnuke I should own it dumb faggot nigger.

Good point, all the most violent gun crime areas are those with heavy gun laws.

What were you trying to say again?

>this

The whole "standing up against the government" argument is laughable when you think about just how poewrful the US military is.

2nd amendment is obsolete, Amerifats game up all their freedom and 2A fags din do nuffin.

I am thinking of that poor dude in SWAT 4 that decided to do a Home Invasion the same night as they raided the serial murderers home.

Because it might give the drones some wrong ideas the powers that be don't want them to have, such as the idea that defending themselves personally, instead of relying on the police to come after they've already been raped or murdered, could be a good thing.

All of that collaspes with guerilla warfare y'know. You blow blow up one rebel, you kill 50 civilians, and very quickly the populacd turns against the government.
And it doesn't help when half the military defects.

Yeah but that's more of a case of those policies being ineffective rather than them being wrong. Probably due to violence being entrenched in those areas already and people finding a way around those laws, like driving 5 blocks up the street to buy a gun at Walmart.

If your response to curbing gun violence is giving everyone more guns than I seriously hope you never get into a position of authority.

Wait what map was that?

Yeah well I wanna see how well Guerilla Warfare works against an Abrams. Shit didn't end well for afghanis, so it probably won't work well for rednecks in bumfuck texas.

this is literally how fake news spreads

Fairfax Residence, there is a really small chance of a burglar being inside of the house.

>didn't end well for afghanis
18 years later and they are still fighting the burgers

do you get to dress your old man hero up in customizable outfits too?

Never knew that, that's interesting. Are there any other maps with small events like that?

It's called Rainbow Six Siege

Because we don't want the goyim getting any ideas about shooting tyrone instead of calling the cops.

And that's more because of radicalised islam and the resolve of the Taliban rather than their techniques being effective.

Honestly, no idea.

It's because burgers are retarded

>Europeans
lel, remember to wear your "Please don't rape me" bracelets.

If you deported all your niggers you would have gun violence rates equivalent to most European countries. It's safe to say guns aren't the problem.

>SJW crowd buys it in droves

See here's where your plan falls apart. This crowd don't actually buy shit. They never support media. They just demand it be created for them.

If a city has strict gun laws you can't go to a walmart 5 blocks away to buy a gun. You don't know what you're talking about. You're basing your entire argument around some idealized hypothetical that you think is reality.

Here's my response to curbing gun violence: remove niggers and spics from America. There are European countries with comparably free gun accessability that have nowhere near the kind of gun crime that's in the US. They're also 95% white. You can look at FBI crime statistics and see what whites in the US do with guns and what brown people with guns do, and virtually all of the gun crime that makes the US an exception is a result of brown people.

Beyond that, I would again point at supposed gun free zones, cities with strict gun laws, and note how high gun crime is. Law abiding citizens will freely give up their right to self defense just because the government says so. And then they'll be preyed upon by those who do not respect the law. All gun laws do is remove guns from good citizens while criminals ignore it. Gun laws are all based on utter naivete at best, and the sincere desire for more government control. You and no one else who asks for more gun regulation is asking for less guns. You're just asking, in a sideways, playful sort of manner, that only government employees have guns.

I thought it spread by CNN lying about it being illegal to view wikileaks.

>If a city has strict gun laws you can't go to a walmart 5 blocks away to buy a gun.
You go behind the wallmart and buy a gun from the guy in the van who went past city limits and bought a gun from walmart or a gunshow.

So he's breaking the law to get me a gun? Interesting, how do laws stop this again? Good job ignoring the point about very specific demographics committing gun crime just so you can miss the point.

Shut up you fat cowardly faggot. It's easy to get a gun regardless of the law in any city because theres no federal laws. So you just drive 1 city over and buy whatever you want. You cowardly fucks only want guns because you are scared to death of guns. You fat retards are so dumb in everything you believe.

Maybe I want a gun because I want to protect myself from nigger lovers like you or your pet shit coloreds that will kill me for the 60 bux in my wallet and my 4 year old smart phone. Maybe a pregnant woman wants a gun so someone a foot taller and 80lbs heavier than her doesn't shove her to the ground and steal her purse and give her a miscarrage. Maybe some 70 year old man wants a gun so some punk kid won't take the keys to his car. You're a faggot and shaming me won't convince me to give up my right to fucking kill you or anyone like you who would take advantage of me. I pray to God you don't ever find yourself in a situation where you're wishing you had a gun because you decided waiting 20 minutes for the cops to arrive was a viable option.

>give up my right to fucking kill
Fuck off. You dont even know what your 2nd Amendment is for. It certainly wasnt intended for "Muh home invasion" fantasy you fat hicks all have.
And go cry about how ineffective the law is some more. Notice how the USA is filled with a billion handguns and rifles but almost 0 automatics? Cause they are banned federally. Hey look, the law worked.

>night 7
>bodies have blocked the door to your house so you've moved into the neighbours while they're out of state
>home invaders have advanced in tactics, the last group even wore convincing police uniforms
>but you aren't fooled, and you will defend your home or wherever you happen to be occupying from all threats
>you can see those criminals pulling up outside now in a fake swat van
>take one last swig from your pickle jar, check your duffel bag of guns and flags hasn't been abducted by liberals and prepare to teach these thugs what you vaguely recall castle law being

I always just assumed that he was the killer's buddy. The guy's mom didn't even blink at him carrying a gun in her house

This is the only way I think it would work.

>Rougelike FPS/Horror/Sandbox
>Procedural generated house each play through/match with varying house sizes, furnishings, and room layouts.
>Game is centered around you waking up at night alerted to a possible invader and having to deal with the situation
>Game has randomly generated elements regarding both you and the invaders
>Like you might be a father (with or without a gun) living at home with his family and you have to watch out that the invaders dont harm them or that you dont accidentally shoot or harm them yourselves by breaching a room and lighting the place up
>Things like children and spouses could be rogue elements in regards to them also being able to roam the house, attack the invaders, or find hiding spots
>Invaders have various MO's and tactics
>Invaders could come in groups, can hide for ambushes, cut/disable lights, also carry guns.

I dunno I think it might be fun if you could get a decent amount of mechanical depth and a nice eerie atmosphere.

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how will the government afford nukes when they're busy nuking their own taxpayers

>implying insurgent strikes on fuel and ammo sources wouldn't turn the things into bricks.
>Implying tanks wouldnt be absolutely fucked by ied's and other methods in a urban area especially one with a shit ton of buildings and areas of attack.

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IIRC you gotta moltov or somehow clock the vents of Abrams, fyi when the time comes.

*clog* the exhaust vents

We've seen how well guerilla warfare works, some fuck buries a bomb, tank drives over, loses track.

Don't forget that guerrillas just need to know the identities of vehicle/drone operators and threaten their families with harm. Given how a sizable percentage of the military is expected to defect, such information will be leaked pretty easily and loyalties will be tested pretty quick.

>sanctuary city
>African Americans
Do you even understand what you are babbling about? Unless literal Africans were somehow offended, what you said is irrelevant.

This is probably the most corporate media drone garbage I have ever read.

>no argument
fuck off retard

Oh and the irony of a guntard calling someone a corporate drone. Weapons industry is like the biggest corporate entities on the planet.

sounds cool if it wasnt for the fact that people would spend most games camping and when a fire or whatever death field they use most kill will be from people camping blind corners, the only way to combat this would be some sort of silent hill like radio static that alerts when players a nearby each other and have bullets pierce most materials depending on the material and calibure

>equating the MIC which primarily deals with governments with the comparatively small civilian market
typical yurotard

You just spent an hour arguing for the antithesis of what the founder's intention of the second amendment was and then you doubled down that the right to bear arms wasn't intended for self defense. You're either retarded or brainwashed.

When all major media is telling you guns are bad your point about guns as a business falls flat.

Don't worry guys I'm totally willing to give up my right and ability to defend myself just because you got talking points blue checkmarks fed you. You just gotta shame me a bit more.

Not if every time you move, you gain a buddy who fights with you.

no the game proceeds like this
1. current level + current character
2. win
3. current character calls up a relative to tell the story of what happened which is something like "You wouldn't believe the jack-asses that tried to get me in my house today blah blah blah...
4. at end of conversation relative hangs up
5. sudden loud noise
6. zooms out to normal game view
7. level starts
8. win go back to step 2

this way you can move up to different or bigger houses or homes
last level is the final relative of the family is revealed to be the President and you have to defend the White House from terrorists because they were able to kill all of the CIA, FBI, Military, and Police at the White House and he remarks:
>"What the fuck am I paying all these taxes for when I have to do everything myself AGAIN?"

You mean tower defense? Pretty sure there are a lot of those.

>A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State
That is about keeping your country free. Which you utterly failed to do. This conversation is going to be logged in the NSA database. Now go get arrested for walking across the street in the non designated area, and go get your balls inspected at the airport.
Those "mom and pop" gun manufacturers have government contracts too you fat retard.

I'd rather play a game where you break into people's houses and can optionally murder them but if you leave too much evidence behind you get arrested.

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In Missouri, we have the right to use deadly force if we feel our property is endangered.

Not even joking, I could shoot to kill if you broke my window. It's fucked.

based

Oh and if you wake up/get spotted they're probably armed, or it's a gated community with a cop within arm's reach that you have to run out of without dying.

>Rodney King riot Korean gunstore DLC

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well if you're gonna kill me anyway, I might as well break all your windows

Payday 2, but pretend the government have gone rogue and are now sending waves of cops to infringe on your freedoms while you're desperately trying to secure resources and flee the country.

by all means, don't wear a seatbelt

British police refuse to protect the nations' children. Rotherham wasn't the only sex trafficiking operation that was conducted with help from the police.

They're nothing but government dogs that need to be put down. They need to die, and the politicians should be made examples of in the worst way.

underage retard that doesn't know shit

you would be charged with murder for that

>British police refuse to protect the nations' children.
>Gunmen enters burger school.

Schools are gun free zones.

What about the opposite of a motion tracker, where players start being pinged on the map if they don't keep moving

Ya, give the students guns to keep them safe. Cut their school lunch budget for more guns, they are too fat anyways.

I had a coworker who majorly creeped me out when he told me how "awesome" it would be if someone invaded his home. He said he hoped it would happen so he could relish the feeling of taking his semi-automatic rifle and rain death on his hypothetical home invader.

This is when I realized that the "home invasion self defense" thing is more like a sexual fantasy than an honest logical precaution. A healthy reasonable human being should never have a fucking hard-on for the chance to kill someone, even if it's justifiable.

I own a gun too but my goal in life is to never, ever have to draw it on another person.

better your morals be satisfied and spew farcicial bullshit than actually taking the hard option and doing what's right.

liberals, you are soulless casks of shit

What is Stand your Ground law?

>doing what's right.
Wishing death upon foreigners like you did last post? Well I do wish death of Burgertards so I guess I am doing whats right.

So long as I "perceive you as a threat" I can blast you away, that's how the law works.

You sound threatening, time to kill you.

>a level in california
>kill intruder
>jailed for 10 years for owning a gun
>another 10 for using the gun
>another 15 for failing to flee because of """limited castle doctrine"""
>another 10 for killing an innocent man
>another 10 for a hate crime
>owe the persons family 10 million dollars for killing their primary source of income
I'd play it

He probably has unrealistic expectations.
Also that's a terrible life goal, mine is to touch some big titties. I've done it already but I want to do it again.

Do you live in Missouri? Point is I'm right.

Yes you are
No he wouldnt

>Do you live in Missouri?
hahahahahahah

>I own a gun
no you dont pussy
literally everyone who gets a firearm goes through the "I wish a nigga would" phase

stand your ground needs reasonable acts to make it valid, breaking into a window is valid but breaking a window by accident or otherwise is not

enjoy your jailtime

>his semiautomatic rifle
Noguns detected

post your gun faggot you wont

astroturfing piece of shit

Home Alone for the Sega Genesis

youtube.com/watch?v=u854Ks5zrwo

Several homes are abandoned. You must set up traps, create improvised weapons including a myriad of guns to fuck up Harry and Marv from looting each house until the cops come in an hour

If you thought someone was breaking into your house because they broke your window, you could reasonably say you felt your life was threatened.

>WHO CARES ABOUT IT BEING RELATABLE
why did you just quote a perfectly true statement

Maybe don't be a nigger and break into people's homes? There's nothing to worry about unless he starts expanding his fantasies to include non-home invaders or you know someone who wants to break into his home.
Chances are he's never going to get to shoot anyone unless he lives in niggerville and leaves his door open to deliberately bait niggers to enter and shoot them, which got people thrown in jail before.

okay, assault rifle, happy now?

DESPITE

could be a cool horror game, but it can be a /k/ommando's home because then it would just be a shooting gallery

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what a shitty troll/false flag/pseudo-political/non-vidya thread

Just play SWAT4, which is basically the reverse.

>accidentally breaking a window on someone else's property
good luck defending that, oh wait, you can't. You're dead
>posting guns
HI CIAnigger

you'd need to have seen them break it or attempt to get in
a kid breaking your window with a stray baseball is a joke and you know it, normal people dont break windows intentionally so whats wrong with blasting some meth head trying to get into your house?

>452919616
cringe lol

Plants vs. Zombies

thats what i thought pussy, noguns really out here thinking a gun with no serial can identify them so they pretend to be hasguns

>implying a /k/ommando's home wouldn't be lined with dragon dildos and cum lube dripping from every corner, including a pitfall filled with extra large horsecocks

You're a moron if you keep any pictures of your personal belongings in a place that is accessible to anything on the internet. The NSA has been caught collecting this info for fucking decades and that's not likely to change. The only way to keep pictures safe would be to immediately print to paper and delete or hold them on templeOS

not just cum lube, but actual cum

People who deliberately fail their obligation to their people andollude with forigners to peddle their own nation's children deserve death. They should not even be considered british at that point

youtu.be/6wrsbh-0fMA

youtu.be/mAR-8JTdcVw

youtu.be/3bUYx8h8TwA ss

astroturfing noguns tries to look like a conspiracy theorist as an excuse to not post his gun

criiinge, its not illegal to own a gun if you have passed the proper checks

I always get a good kick of the schizos that post their closets full of ammo.

>People who deliberately fail their obligation to their people andollude with forigner
I guess you are gonna use your American made gun against your gov tomorrow?

Have a setup phase where the defender walks around in his house and sets things up. Intruder gets to watch his activities through the window.

Obsessed. European jealousy runs so deep
It's not about owning guns being legal or illegal. Your right to keep and own firearms is protected by a document that explicitly states it is primarily to fight against a tyrannical government. If the government is your potential enemy you don't want them knowing exactly how many rounds and which firearms you have. Fuck off back to /k/cebook and show the world all of your magnificent guns so when commisar Clinton comes to repossess them they have more documents to pin on you

mincing my words to twist context isn't getting anywhere with me you know

you really think guns are gonna get repo'd in red states lmao?

>mincing my words
lmao I didnt mince anything, those are your literal words misspellings and all. LMAO

I think it's possible. Blue states have liberals and red states have fudds.
>I OWN AN OLD 30-06 MY GRANDPAPPY GAVE ME AND I AGREE KIDS THESE DAYS DON'T NEED FULLY SEMIAUTOMATIC CHILD KILLING ASSAULT RIFLES WITH FEATURED BARREL SHROUD WHICH PROVIDES DEADLY ACCURACY
red states are in as much danger as blue. Hell, I live in a blue state, thankfully even our retarded government won't budge on the second amendment, yet.

>Still no proper home alone game
You'd think after all these years someone would give a shit

Oh fuck off with that shit. 'Mass Shootings' are a very very small percentage in gun violence in the 1st place. Also the founding fathers would support an equal armed citizenry so stop being a fag.

To add to this, the founding fathers thought that people should own fucking cannons and the most advanced military tech within their own homes. According to the founding fathers, private citizens should be allowed to own fucking attack helicopters, fighter jets, tanks, and APCs

>he unironically thinks USA bringing out fucking tanks and nukes against it's own populace and territory won't in any way backfire

I think it's right outside the credibility purview for 90s franchises rehashed into games.

Why don't the niggers buy guns to shoot back with if they're so scared

>gun owners don't fantasize about baiting somebody into their home to kill the-
youtube.com/watch?v=iyZxtz-4PKU

>you will never own a nuclear submarine

>if a country has gotten to the point where it will issue tanks against and bomb its own territory and civilians as if that is a normal thing for first world nations you should bend over like a good little cuck without any resistance
I see

>not fantasizing about the finally ending the same one nigger who keeps breaking into your house and robbing you while police say "LOL SORRY IT CAN'T BE HELPED, HAVE YOU CONSIDERED BUYING ONE OF THOSE ADT CAMERAS?"

that would be rad, a slower paced siege with voice acted NPC's to defend like your daughter (male)

Because it's literally illegal to kill invaders in most states and you'll get booked on murder.

>kill them
>get into it with the cops when they come too
>have house rigged to blow when you die
Only way to be heard.

Not where I live babby. Have a oddly strong stand your ground law for now what is a blue state.

This is the best game idea that anybody on Yea Forums ever had.

The only thing you can do is die. A gun is the ONLY viable self-defense tool.

What is with you metropolitan faggots and this horrible pathological behavior. More states have castle doctrine and stand your ground laws than those that dont

>The founding fathers would probably be disgusted if they knew about all the mass shootings happening in their country
100% agree with you because they would also know the government does this to scare its citizens

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