Alright. My PC is in the process of dying so I have to buy a new one

Why not get a Ryzen 2700 instead of the i7? Cheaper and lets you do more with it, along with having more cores and threads.
Also, for the GPU a 1660ti seems like a better choice than the 2060.

No, no you can't. Games are so unoptimized that out need a 1070ti at minimum to keep an acceptable framerate, and I run a 1080ti to ensure that I get at minimum 60 at all times.
T. Speed freak

I have zero experience with drives since the last time I built a pc was like six years ago. Things changed and it will take me some time to catch up. I am using blender and edit videos so quite a lot so I thoughta good processor might come in handy.
Try to guess.
All I really care about is fps in games. My old pc lasted me this long only because I was running things at 720p.
Both ryzen and 1660ti are more expensive where I live. As I said. My place doesn't make much sence.
I get the same feeling from watching benchmarks and other poeple complainig about new releases. Devs just dont give afuck.

Get a 1660 instead of the 2060. Honestly fuck nvidia for naming the 1660 that, just call it the 1160 or something.

Max Sequential Read
Up to 540 MBps
Max Sequential Write
Up to 465 MBps
4KB Random Read
Up to 37,000 IOPS
4KB Random Write
Up to 68,000 IOPS

looks fine for any gaming system for reference HDD's have like less than 200 IOPS and generally top out at 150MB/s for 7200rpm

If we're talking maxed settings, sure. But a 2060 could definitely do 1440p/60fps with minor downgrades in some graphic settings. Varying by game, so it's not a catch-all 1440p card, but for anything even halfass optimized you can keep it nice looking and bumped up to 1440p.
Kind of pointless for this thread, though, since I doubt OP even has a 1440p monitor

Looked based to me. I have an i5 8400 and the 2060. The 8700 is a bit overkill though. You could drop down to the i5 and get a 2070 but the 2070s value isnt great

If you can get 2060 for 350€ its same price performance as any 1660, so its clearly the better choice. You get the rtx + dlss on top.

if you don't save any money by getting a ryzen 2600 or 2600x then get the i7, an i5 already gets cucked by new games because of no hyperthreading, change the ssd for crucial or samsung if you can, the ram is fine, if you could somehow find a 1070 ti instead of the 2060 get that one instead because it has 2 more GB of Vram.

>There is almost no reason to buy a 2060 over a 1660ti.
No reason not to buy a 1660 Ti over a 2060, seeing as a 2060 is only $70 more and grants you one extra year of performance at the same settings.

You don't want a card that's perfect now, you want something that still works next year.

2060 is faster than a 1070ti

Thr 2060 is 14% faster and has keme technology, but mostly its just faster

no reason to buy a*

>Both ryzen and 1660ti are more expensive where I live
Ah. Well, looks like a decent setup, maybe the mother board could be better but I know shit about intel motherboards. Out of curiosity, where do you live?

>poozen
>gaming

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Do you do much rendering? What programs do you use? If you actually do a lot of modeling and video shit and use programs that can exploit it hyperthreading is actually quite valuable

A lot of idiots have fallen for the 1660 Ti marketing. 2060 is still a beast in price performance. Who cares about he RTX when its rasterization is strong?

>rtx + dlss
Both of which are shit and useless.
I don't know what shithole you live in, but the RTX 2060 costs almost 100 dollars more then the 1660ti does in burger land.

2060 is 350 and the 1660ti is 280. Thats 70 dollars.

>RTX
Make sure to keep a fire extinguisher near your rig

Don't use jewtel

You're a retard if you think that hyperthreading is actually utilized properly by devs. The retards can't even figure out how to use multiple threads on physical cores let alone hyperthreading. I can count the games where it's actually used on one hand
1660ti is a solid 150 cheaper where I live and it's honestly just a better deal here

Well yes i wouldnt pay an extra 150 for the 2060 either. I always focus on price/perf

It's less than half of 150€ if you are in Europe and buy from Amazon.

That's 70 dollars you could either put into something else, or better yet, save.
RTX and DLSS is not worth paying an extra 70 on, because few games actually use it, dlss is barely used yet and not exactly amazing and rtx is just not viable yet for games and takes to big a preformance hit.

That's an amazing deal for one year of extra performance in rasterization.

New to PC building, is an RTX worth it Yea Forums?

RTX is only worth on the 2080 Ti, but otherwise turn it off. The other RTX cards are good for their rasterization.

Again, it's not worth it. I get your a massive Nvidia shill and all, but you'd have to be retarded to justify spending an extra 70 you could be saving on a card that can't even make much use of it's advertised features, and can't even make good use of them either.

I think you mean RX

How much are you paying for one year of performance. Do the math and tell me if 70 dollars is expensive for one year of extra performance.

All ray tracing features below 2080 Ti are worthless anyway, so you are not buying them for that. You buy them for their good general performance, which the 2060 is superior to the overhyped 1070 rehash (1660) in every way.

I'm using blender basicaly every day. Complex scenes were slow as hell and it was driving me crazy.
Funny you mention that. My old r9 280 was getting into 100 degrees. Then i made a homemade cooling system from some plastic tubes and like ten cheap fans and it never went above 50.

My goal is to play new games at stable frames. I'd like to run them at as high details as posible, but I don't really care about graphics. I want a PC that will last me another six years. I don't want to buy the most expensive shit, but I also don't want to get something that won't be able to run new games in like two years.

How is it not worth it?
You get more performance for several years, and you dont have to pay extra in the form of diminishing returns.

There is nothing else you can put 70 dollars toward that will give you an extra 14% performance

How to easily spot Nvidia shills.
>IT HAS SLIGHTLY BETTER PREFORMANCE SO JUST BUY IT GOY

Well why not then buy a 50€ card?

Youre freaking out man

Leaf

t. Nvidia shills
It's called saving money faggot. Not like I'd expect a shill like you to understand.
>OH YOU TOTALLY NEED THAT 14% EXTRA PREFORMANCE GOY, JUST GIVE US MORE MONEY

I guess this is one of those russian ai shitposting bots.

>RTX 2060
buying RTX? What are you are a fucking idiot or something?
At least get the GTX or go hang. Fuck RTX and especially fuck the 2060 that comes with a premium price for features it is too weak to use anyways.

>I will be playing at 1080p 60fps
depends on the game. Also lose the 8700 if you are going gaming you do not need an i7 (unless you play grand strategy games or total war like games). Put more of that cash into gfx.

>hyperthreading
ahahahahahaha I love the tech and use it daily but for gaming it is not something wroth the money.

>all these faggots saying to just buy a 2060
Like, I understand saying to buy it over a 1660ti, but why not just advise a used 1070ti? You can find them on eBay for cheaper and it's got both better and worse preformance then 2060 depending on what it's doing.

>What are you are a fucking idiot or something?
Or maybe he looked at benchmarks and figured that for the minuscule price increase he gets a considerable performance increase.

>Why not buy a used 1070 ti
because

I had a used card once and it died in a year.

>You get more performance for several years
the 2060 is not going to last you years. In two years time it will be literal shit. New consoles are coming and gfx tech is changing. The era of same performance for a 5 years straight will only come back AFTER the launch of the new consoles.
So unless you are swimming in cash it is better to buy the 1660 and then buy its equivalent in two years time than buy the 2060 and then also being forced to buy a new card in the two years time. The 2060 meme needs to die.

Fuck off. The 1660 meme needs to die. Just buy a used 10xx if you like that performance so much.

>I want a PC that will last me another six years
then you are buying at the wrong time. The CPU market is booming in cores right now and it looks like it is finally moving forward. Which unfortunately means that CPU gets "older" faster now.
However it is your 2060 which will die first. You either got the choice of buying a 2080 and having great performance for 3+ years or a 2060 and have good performance for 2+ years. So you might consider buying a cheaper gfx card so you can afford to switch it out in a couple of years as it will become obsolete fast. Especially now that RT is being pushed so hard.

Because you don't like saving money?
Or because you're under the impression that because it's used it's bad? I've used used GPUs in the past and they've never died on me. Even cards used in crypto mining, and they've all been fine. In fact the 1080 in my PC is used and I've been using it for two years now.

When people live paycheck to paycheck they cant afford a risk of buying a used card, have it die and then not have money to buy anything.

because you are a shill?
just because Nvidia have zero good products to offer now just makes the 2060 the king of shit. Its what happens when there is 0 competition. Personally ill buy used as the prices for new cards are just criminal. And no I can easily afford them I just dont want to support that disgusting business.

>Just buy a used 10xx
not a bad suggestion. The 1660 is not a great product either but its cheaper so you can switch it out earlier without the same loss.

>When people live paycheck to paycheck
then they really shouldnt spend their minuscule cash on overpriced Nvidia gfx cards...

Next gen consoles are running on amd CPUs, most likely 8c/16t. Food for thought.

Yeah, AMD is mastering its Zen design and Intel is trying to come up with a 3D stacked CPUs for 2020+. We will also see RTX mature in 7nanomater in Geforce 30.

This. If they don't have a disposable cash for a PC, just go with the cheaper options.

You cant have zero competition and be the worst product at the same time

desu if you are living paycheck to paycheck you shouldnt be worrying yourself over high end PC gaming.

save,save,save,save until like a blackfriday/cyber monday deal.

okay
once and for all
2060 or 1660 ti

I keep hearing this back and forth rhetoric every single thread

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>We will also see RTX mature in 7nanomater in Geforce 30
hopefully. But I really hope Nvidia drops the RTX and just embraces the open standard RT.
no you can be the best of shit. The 2060 is overpriced about 100$. Nvidia should really have kept RTX to 2080 and 2080ti and just milked the drones out there who are more than willing to pay 1000+ for a consumer level gfx card.
The fact that RTX sales are so low and it has zero consequences just proves what happens when there is no one to contest the market.

>RTX 2060 gaming z 6g
Save up and buy RTX2070,and don't cheap out on PSU.

depends on price.
1660ti needs to be significantly cheaper than 2060 to be worth it, at mspr 2060 is better price/perf

What's the best GPU on the market right now where I'm not paying a premium to be a tester for a tech demo?

both are not that great but 1660ti is cheaper so it does not hurt so much when you have to throw it in the bin in two years time.
the 2060 is not much faster so it will start to have problems about the same time as the 1660ti so there is no major advantage to gain for the about 70-100$ more you pay.
oh and the 2060 is so underspecced for RTX that its practically useless. And since DLSS is just pure shit it really has nothing special going for it.
However if you are buying a card now and you cant afford high end then I guess its just a matter of have much ass fucking you can take.

ehh its all shit right now mate? Come back in a years time and save the cash right now.
If you really can wait since you are running a 470gtx or similar then get the 1660ti/2060 if you can afford it. If you go lower than that it starts to not become wroth the buy at all in my view.

Not OP but I just bought this build a few days ago. Hoping to do around 2k/60fps or higher. Will this do? Waiting for the parts is suffering. I can't wait to play PC games tho.

so then the best course of action would be to wait till fall ?

Forgot pic. Anyway yeah, will this build be able to do 2k/60 fps?

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Problem with waiting is that it can continue indefinitely and you experience the present.

Swap 2060 for 1660Ti.
Swap i7 8700 for Ryzen 2700X.

I would personally do that. And I know the easy answer is always "wait" in tech but really it is the right choice right now.
I got about 5k $ to spend on a new PC and I do not want to buy either now as the market for gfx is just too insane and the CPU market is a bit too volatile (I want to see it slow down a little bit before buying).

RTX 30xx will sell like hot cakes. We won't even have this debate anymore. By 40xx time, the 1080 Ti will be completely forgotten.

no

That build can probably do 4k 60fps honestly. Pretty solid. You paid WAY too much for that CPU cooler though.

>gpu is half the entire build's cost
god dammit i hate this timeline

2k? You mean 1440? I really hate that people started using those advertiser terms for resolutions like 4k. When naming a resolution it was standard to always list the vertical resolution (480, 720, 1080 and 1440). But all of the sudden 2160 is being called 4k.... because it has 4x the pixels for 1080 or because its width is 3840?
but as for you question it really depends on what games you are talking about. That Ryzen will struggle in certain games but excel in others.
The 2080 will do great in nearly all games and running 1440 ultra 60fps so be possible in most games.

Ryzen is crap for high-end builds

A 1660ti running 1080/60 is not a high end build.

"I wont live without ray-tracing" or what the fuck those retards at toms hardware wrote.
Its not like he is missing out on something very new like when 3D first came to market.

High end also means emulation and high framerate, not just resolution.

yep but there is nothing else out there. You want a high end card that isnt meme VII then you can only get RTX cancer.
I hate this shit of Nvidia keeping the prices nearly as high as under the crypto shit. "but the price is fair as you get beta meme tech!"

Is /pcbg/ on /g/ good for learning computer builds?

You and me both. Had to save up all fucking year and even then I kept screwing up and spending. Winded up getting a great tax refund because my sister let me claim her newborn son since I let them live with me and woo lad I hit the jackpot. Dipped a bit from it to get my PC and gave her the kiddo like $7000. I'm content.

I literally listed the framerate in the post and so did the OP. Ryzen can handle emulation just fine if it isn't PS3/WiiU, and even then it isn't unplayable. There's nothing it won't run at 60fps set to 1080p.

>the 1080 Ti will be completely forgotten
isnt it already? I never understood the craze about that also overpriced card. Maybe I am just old and remember stuff like the GTX7900 Ultra and just disappointed by the newer gens. The 900 series is the last time I was positive about a new Nvidia launch. The 1000s series was kinda meh to me and the 2000s series is just insulting.

well the PC you build is a great machine no question about it. Just because some of us whine about the prices cant take away the fact that the 2080 will perform great in all games.

>yup but there's nothing else out there
it's honestly the only reason im still with 1080
even though i really would like to move up to 1440/120fps without breaking the bank

>learning good computer builds

just use websites and look at the specs for each part.

the main 3 parts you only need to worry about are the GPU (graphics card) and Processors as those mainly determine speeds and frames per sec which is whats important.

yeah I got the cash to spend but I just wont support the price hike.

Yeah the 1080 Ti was a big deal. It was the biggest performance jump in years. First gen that allowed for 4k.

Buy the ryzen 2700X instead

>AMD

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Should I get an RX 580?

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