Does Yea Forums play Vermintide 2?

Does Yea Forums play Vermintide 2?

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I would if the devs arent that shitty game is still installed, whats the new dlc?

Put about 650 hours in it before finally losing the itch to play it almost every day. The expansion sounds neat but it isn't coming out until "summer".

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They're calling this one an "Expansion". Added Beastmen, new weapons, new game modes, map "modifiers" but no new maps. They say the goal is to add an infinite end game but I'll wait and see to find out. No release date yet but they said this summer.

No new smug high elf character? that sucks. They are so bad with the game, only the damn elf is allowed to be strong. i doubt they will suceed in their endeavor. But will end up playing a bit i guess. I do like the game.

i did but my bf and i got burned out. we'll probably play it again but not anytime soon.

I played through all the maps most of the characters and after hitting level 30 on 2 and high 20s on a couple others I just got bored of the combat and shitty loot/cosmetic system

The most you can hope for is new classes. We’ll never get a new character because of the amount of dialogue that needs to be recorded.

>still no new character
>not even new classes

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might get a new beastman boss who knows

What roles are missing from the class roster?

Minotaur Boss is basically confirmed with the image

Yes. But I'm disappointed it's Beastmen and not Vampires.

how will he be different from Roger?

It's just like L4D both in gameplay and in the fact that despite the fact some people try to convince you its a game you play forever, it's actually boring after one play through

They'd have to re-dub lines about the Ubersreik 5. or 4, doesn't matter.

Post rat lewds

Hopefully he'll hit the Bowling Ball. I suppose besides that they could have him do some heavily telegraphed axe cleaves.

Why not have beastmen, vampires, and greenskins?

Were Greenskins prominent in the endtimes?

>greenskins
My emancipated field slave

Haven't touched this trash in a while and have no plans to touch it again.

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Lizardmen hero when?

GW doesn’t care about whfb lore anymore. They could make a dlc about lizrdmen helping chaos with dual mace slann beserkers and GW will okay it as long as they can collect dosh

>Yea Forums
>playing video games

Deleted it after 9 hours. I liked it but to clear the higher difficulties you need 4 people. Was playing with my brother and we hosted public games but nobody ever joined and finding servers where our characters were not picked was a pain in the ass. Seems this game was best played at launch when it had the most and active people.

>God tier
(good) Sienna mains, Bardin mains, Kruber mains
>Meh tier
Saltzpyre mains
>Mayflies tier
Filthy elf players
>Ass tier
Bad sienna mains

>I liked it but to clear the higher difficulties you need 4 brain cells.
FTFY, but I don't blame you for quitting, the game is highly repetitive.

user, GW gets bullied by vidya devs.

>devs from WHFB diablo game want the WHFB license
>GW: "What about AoS? We want to increase its po-
>Devs: "No. We won't make your game if you don't give us your license."

And the best part its not even a made-up shitpost. GW can't even force people to make AoS games.

I did, but once I played through all the levels a few times, I couldn't justify grinding forever to get gear just to make the hard mode easier. Total Warhammer's a better endtimes videogame.

guess I'll give it another try though.

Maybe thats because age of sigmar is fucking garbage and nobody likes it

No reason to restrict themselves to the end times. They could just change the settings for different maps if it matters that much to gamesworshop.

Nah, groggy

I'd give an AoS game a try desu. As long as it doesn't have anything retarded like sharks with fricking laser beams on their heads

i can invite you to a discord server where people still regularly play on the legend and above? you could also just google it i think, it's relatively big Squirrel Squad

everyone's pretty damn strong, elf was fotm the first month or two

needs more skaven memes

This
With L4D you could at least have fun in versus, even if it got a bit autistic later on.

Is this meme-joke enough for you?

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go to twg

this gonna be free?

So does it run as shitty as 1?

just started playing again after a few months of hiatus, still love it

nope
pay up goy so they can take a month off in the summer

>Fighting Night Goblins inside the Grey Mountain Karaks with unique squig herds that bounce at your team.
>Special Necromancer enemies that will summon slow moving zombie hordes and skeleton fodder, supported by Grave Guard elites.

Those would be great but the amount of work would probably warrant a new game. I honestly thought we wouldn't see beastmen added to the mix until the third game.

The largest Greenskin WAAAAGH fucked off to kill Skaven and Chaos Dwarfs then rampage across the Warhammer version far east before coming back and killing Greasus Goldtooth the Ogre King. So most of the Orcs weren't near the empire at all. However, what I think would be cool, and is something that was forgotten during the end times is Skarsnik, one of the most important Greenskin characters is completely AWOL after the Battle for Karak Eight Peaks. I think it'd be neat to, if you want Greenskins in Vermintide, have them be from Skarsnik's Warband and even if the Ubersreik 5 don't kill him then give some closure for the character.

>High Elf
>Not Vampire

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adding orks to the game would kinda be a waste considering they would never be able to mingle on the same map with Chaos, Skaven, or Beastmen, they'd just be relegated to spawning alone on certain stages.

They'll add more chaos factions before they ever add Orcs or Vampires.

Give one good reason why Kruber and Saltzpyre wouldn't kill him on sight.

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>As long as it doesn't have anything retarded like sharks with fricking laser beams on their heads

I have some bad news.

yeah but you burn out on it fast

they never add any real content, they just reskin enemies and weapons

This is why I'm surprised they added Beastmen as an expansion rather than in a 3rd game. Now they've pretty much rounded out the forces of chaos, I suppose they could add in some Daemons of Chaos or other Norscan armies but as far as armies that would co-exist they've pretty much got them all.

>tfw no vampire noble gf character

Same reason Salts didn't kill the Elf on sight and free'd the Witch, Skaven and Chaos are bigger threats
Empire are canonically allies with the undead and they even fight side by side ranks among ranks in multiple battles against chaos

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Enemy of your enemy is your friend.

Krubby has zombie ptsd, vampire is a no go

He just want to fuck a Vampire then.

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Vampires bro, that's your 4th enemy faction.

Kerillian is already topping from the bottom with Kruber

>board from the forest with a shitty character
No!

vampires aren't a force of chaos and would literally never put themselves on the same side as Skaven, let alone anyone who worships a Chaos God.

You're thinking too far outside the box, we still have multiple Chaos allies/forces out there, including the barbarians from the east that worship Tzeentch

>vampires siding with chaos and skavens durning end times
it's fatshark, so i can see this

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Is this a reference to pic related?

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>shooting sienna by accident as kruber
>FIRE MAGE, NOT A NECROMANCER, KRUBER
holy fuck those interactions between characters are golden

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Elspeth von Draken when

How could hey make her so bad compared to V1

I got both games recently, I want to at least try all the maps from the first one before I move on to the second

He'll get over it, he used to hate Sienna in VT1

yes
>Same reason Salts didn't kill the Elf on sight and free'd the Witch

The Elf isn't an enemy of the Empire in the first place and Sienna is still in his custody, and also spoiler alert The Forces of Death are still completely hostile to the Empire at this point, Nagash is literally in the middle of his plan to kill everyone and everything and become mega-death christ and both the Empire and the High Elves are aware of this

>mfw still mad that they didnt remake the wizards tower in the back to ubersriek dlc
Did anyone actually fucking like engines of war? That level is fucking trash.

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I just want Bardin’s hood but ranald pisses on me

Nice

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Gotta save some good maps for more DLC. Maybe they’ll bring it back with a dorf map

all of the dlc missions so far suck. especially the first three.

>they will raise level cap
>mfw all my red items

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When are we getting new classes? I like the dialogue between salty and Kruber about making Kruber a witch hunter now that Victor has some sway in the order as a captain. It’d be cool to see some kind of witch hunter Kruber class.

They’ll probably keep item levels the same. Probably.

Wizard Tower would be a nightmare map with the current enemy roster, over 50 percent of Wizard Tower is tighter than tight corridors with blocking turns and high elevation enemy spawn locations. Blight Stormers, Warpfire throwers, the new bosses, and the new Ratling Gunner AI would be fucking annoying. Then to add to that Armour is much more plentiful in V2 compared to V1 and the armour is now much stronger- nah brah, there's no way they would have just ported over Wizard's Tower, they would have had to remake the entire map.

I'm still fucking mad they're making you pay for the fucking maps from the first game if you own the first game.

At least give me a fucking discount you Jews.

I want to like Fat Shark, but Jesus, they make it hard.

just use cream.api to unlock them ingame
easy anti cheat and steam can do nothing about it

Maps having annoying bullshit in them never stopped fatshart before which is why you can get a boss in the dark section of HitD

game is dead in my country so literally can't

Fighting a boss in the dark isn't hard, fighting a boss in a narrow corridor that it can barely fit through is nightmarish considering the bile troll and stormfiend.

Wizard Tower doesn't belong in v2 in its current state, it would be a cluster fuck and something as simple as a patrol spawning in about 60% of the available map area would be a near game over for most legend players. The point of the DLC was to quickly port the maps, not completely redesign them. Wizard Tower is my favorite v1 map besides the boring as fuck finale but you'd have to be blind or just shit at the game to not recognize all the issues its design would bring to v2

I'm not just mad about the dlc shit with Ubersreik, I'm also mad about their past inability to communicate with the community and adhere to their own road map goals. The first game was especially bad when it came to that.

I used too, but the devs being absolute retards killed it for me.

Sienna was 'only' a wizard, not a necromancer, and Kruber even admited he was being irrational.
A genuine necromancer would get shot on sight.

I like the game but the item grind simply should not exist. We already have character progression through leveling up and just learning to play them in general, the items on top are just there to dangle a carrot in front of your face to artificially increase player retention. I hate that shit.

>Fighting a boss in the dark isn't hard, fighting a boss in a narrow corridor that it can barely fit through is nightmarish considering the bile troll and stormfiend.
and it happens all the time already so why the hell not let it happen in an actually good map too

Elfs aren't abominations and insults to human gods and wizards were given allowance to exist by Magnus the Pious, vampires are abominations and undead monstrosities

Not in a while but ill probably come back for this dlc. They're really dropping the ball on maps though, lazy fucking swedes.

The Enemy Below, Castle Drachenfels and the Cursed Rune were the best maps.

yeah it sucks, wish it was all about enemy difficulty and map design instead of getting items that are a tiny bit stronger every match. Maybe you could grind weapon skins and costumes, or amulets and talismans could do something still. Well even a little less item grind would be good for the gameplay.

Have they fixed ranged being neutered and melee being pathetically easy yet?
I quit around the time they fucked handguns to the point where they couldn't reliably kill a fucking gas rat. The worst part was that i actually supported them nerfing pyro and BH, because they were fucking boring to play with, but the baggage that came with it was too much.

So you quit at the point where you couldn't reliably land a a headshot?

imagine being this much of a brainlet

I quit at the point where one fucking slave rat being in front of it would absorb the penetration and do absolutely jack shit damage after.

Not currently, but I'll hop right back in with some new content. Not interested in paintings desu.

>never finished v1 because no WHfriends to play with
>want to play v2 but autism compels me to beat v1
What's the hardest difficulty that can still be solo'd with AI?

get the quality of life mod, user. It makes the AI better than the average player.
Once you can get reliable headshots in melee, you can easily do nightmare and probably cataclysm

>elves arent abominations

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Still the best single target ranged removal in the game. Aim better.

Why are Warhammer humans so shit

All of them

Because they're surrounded by races that are just objectively better like Elves and Dwarves.

So they didn't change ranged. Is melee still so easy that people with crayons up every orifice and a lobotomy can play legend?

You can do some missions on cata with bot ai improvement mod. They are still pretty dumb and will stand all over you allowing ratos to throw buckets in wells and slap the bookstands in wiz tower.

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This. They really nailed the interactions. Especially Saltzpyre being autistic about insults to Sigmar.

because they are realistic weak pieces of shit, not "can do everything balanced race lmao"

Why are they constantly cucked by them. Why are they so stupid that they can’t build a temple to their own god so the dwarfs had to do it.

I have over 200 hours but haven't played since launch since all the released DLC has been overpriced and shitty

"summer" -- more like next year. Still really cool though. Fatshit takes forever doing anything and sucks at delivering on promises STILL NO DEDICATED SERVERS kek
It should be fun and I'm excited

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I soloed everything on Cata with the base bots except The White Rat and Well Watch and I'm not even good.

Dwarves view humans like their retarded step-child. You love him, but ultimately he's retarded and will need a lot of help.

I'm on Xbone, I found it in the 5$ clearance at a Target. I'd play v2 through Game Pass

Yes. One of my favourite maps.
I wouldnt have minded both so I consider to be on the winning side regardless.

Played it for 60h at launch and then moved on to other games. It kind of feels like a Halloween game though so I'll probably play around with it on spook season.

Excuse me!?
They are perhaps one of the best humans in all of fantasy being on the actual winning side and preserving against tons of horrible things.

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Duly noted, it's been a while since I first played but I was kinda >tfw tired of vidya at the time so I should have a better time going back in.

There are still retards that demand new heroes and even have small dimishing hopes because of that....

Unbelievable how delusional one can get....

New expansion will draw in more players and bring back many old ones no doubt since people were always demanding a new race and finally got it.

They still need to work on proper Loot and endgame especially with reworking the talents.

They are upping the level cap and adding new talents. I really hope they aren't half-assed and change up the class's passive or ultimate

Don’t get me wrong, I love the idea of steel, gunpowder, and faith with normal humans prevailing against impossible odds but outside the military and a few outliers, the empires achievements are pretty pathetic. Everything of note in the empire is built by the dwarfs and most inventions are made by them as well. They are also incredibly inferior to the elves in every way. Now I have no problem with this concept, however it’s implented so poorly. It sounds like they were planning to have humans flourish while elves and dwarfs decline but it’s never really shown that well. Also the fact that the world blows up is an anticlimactic way to end that narrative.

The more I played Vermintide 2 the less I liked it. The levels are far too samey, the loot system feels tacked on and very half arsed and the game in general is just meh,

I can't help but wonder if anyone demanding new heroes heard of payday 2

Skarsnik is too important for the Ubersreik 5

You're basically fighting a crippled vassal clan of clan pestilens and some barely known chaos warband that doesn't even have a chaos lord.

what does that shitty game have to do with it

>based fucking gameplay
>baste fucking stale static loot multipliers and 30 minutes of work for one loot

>Also the fact that the world blows up is an anticlimactic way to end that narrative.
Do I need to remind you we don't speak of that?

Without ever playing it but hearing it from others who gave reasons against new chats would be that they had no proper dialouge interactions and since that aint cheap its one of the bigger problems.

Bought it during winter sale, been playing it non-stop everyday for a total of 275hr.
praise sigmar

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It's a classic example of why adding in extra characters for the sake of it is a terrible idea.
It caused spiraling costs due to requiring every other VA to record new lines on top, and every time a new update came out they needed an extra person present to record material.
There were literally months, in some cases years, of some characters having placeholder interactions because the VAs either weren't available or weren't being paid.

Given how incredibly incompetent FS is in other areas, adding this extra issue would be flagrant stupidity.

You heavily exaggerate some things.
Dwarfs only build things for which they got paid like all of Helmgart for example and while Humanity prospered under the guidance of Dwarfs by borrowing their calendar or gunpowder technology they made their own tech which arguably exceeds the ones from the Dwarfs.
Magic wise they were always varied but it took them way too long to sanction magic due to the Templar Order.

Elves and Dwarfs are heavily in decline which is best seen with the Dawi loosing hold after hold and the Elves slowly anandoning their colonies and chillin on Ulthuan instead.

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I really like it but my pc shits itself during hordes and certain parts of the maps.
4690k/1060 6gb

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Who is the best character and why is it Kruber

Blame fatshit, they somehow manage to make performance worse with every update. I heard it’s because of their anti-cheat software

yeah, and it's the truth that there might not be space for a new character in the conversations, but regardless of all that it still will always remain as untapped potential. they wouldn't need to add a billion characters like payday did if they ever did it, because that's retarded and it didn't really do anything for that game I think. either way the current characters still need to be voiced newly for new content like the beastmen.

Mercenary and Witch Hunter Captain are the best classes; you can't prove me wrong.

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Why would I want to?

You never know if there are stinky elf players ITT

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What is Sienna's best class and why is it battle wizard?

wow ebic post thanks for adding to the discussion retard

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but do you have the Fortunes of War portrait?

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Rats soundcloud.com/slowdul/surge

>trash
>has more than 10 hours in it
>has it 100% on steam
whatever, retard

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yfw this plays
youtube.com/watch?v=CiKiUb5sMK8

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BASED

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vt2 has the worst optimization i've seen in a long time. it's not just hordes, too, there are parts of some maps where looking in a certain direction causes the fps to get chopped in half regardless of how many enemies are actually present. and it's almost impressive how they manage to make the performance even worse with each update.

>they made their own tech which arguably exceeds the ones from the Dwarfs.

Isn't the dynamic between the two that Dwarfs are master craftsmen that produce weapons of far higher quality than any man can build, but they're horrendously bogged down in tradition and very rarely innovate anything, while human craftsmanship is much worse but they're constantly experimenting with new and more lethal designs?

>always sneaking and stabbing plays twice few seconds after

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Yes.
Their weapons are perfect but only once each hundred year there is a chance a blueprint might get approved due to all the testing done on it. In Lore they got thousands of incredible machine concepts lying around which is GWs way of introducing new stuff but as one can see they didnt make much use of it...

Humans on the other hand are much craftier with lots of concepts and experimental tech which allows them to gain a small upper hand at the cost of either no maintenance or building knowledge or production problems.

And Skaven...well they build stuff but in the end it explodes.

Dawi Zharr are peak technology tho.

>it's another episode of the AI director spawning 3 disablers simultaneously on the last man standing
youtube.com/watch?v=XUhVCoTsBaM

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>Stormfiend theme isn't part of the OST
>Can't find it anywhere

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maybe

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>salts didn’t kill the elf
This isn’t 40k, humans and elves and racist against each other but not genocidal

>the assassin ambient noises get bugged and don't play and you get pounced out of nowhere

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Wouldn't Bardin kill on sight as well? Didn't the Von Karsteins desecrate some Dwarven ancestor remains?

He never hated Sienna. He’s always been a giant blowhard, and he captured Sienna to give her a fair trial where I bet he expected her to be pardoned.

Wait, what happened to Krube involving zombies?

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They’re shockingly believable 16th century Europeans which means 80% of them are literal retards by our standards

>He never hated Sienna
indeed, quite the opposite

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Some necro wiped his regiment or something like that.

Necromancer wrecked his regiment

>Sienna flirting with Victor
10/10

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>It was a Necromancer who was to be Kruber’s undoing. The Undead marched on a grand muster of Imperial might. Kruber’s regiment was on the east flank, forming an impenetrable barrier against the skeletal forces they opposed. For a while it looked as if the Ostlanders sensed victory and fought with extra ferocity to that end. But then the Sergeant caught sight of a wizened old man leading a horde of Zombies. In a freak moment their eyes locked, the Necromancer grinned, and went about casting his death-magic. Moments later, a colossal orb of purple-edged darkness swept through the Swordsmen, killing all it touched while sucking the souls from hapless bodies. One of the men pushed Kruber out of the way, his own soul selflessly sacrificed.

>At the end of the battle, the Undead had dissipated and the Empire was victorious, but it was a Pyrrhic victory for Markus. His regiment had been destroyed, and he emerged as a traumatized lone survivor. In a state of shock, Markus applied for leave, wishing to quit military life and simply head for home, but was denied.

I had the play the game locked at 30fps to get any sense of consistency, fuck

interesting; thanks anons. poor kruber

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You need the update my friend.

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>end times
>so many rats that they infest chaos itself

Yes, the empire has guns on nearly the same level as dwarves after a hundred years, who have been stuck on (perfectly made and extremely accurate) matchlocks for thousands of years.

Humans also got mass production down to a science, which is why the professional state troops are a thing.

The empire also has state troop regiments that have higher discipline than any of their peers. Teamwork was always the Empires strength when you could actually get everyone to play nice with each other

>A game where you fight endless waves of pests and Scandinavian man as a ragtag group of misfits
Beastmen can't come soon enough

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The unholy alliance of chinamen, finns, and furrys

I love these

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when the fuck are they gonna make a AoS game i wanna fuck shit up as a stormcast

And it works. Without it, average playtime would be significantly lower. Appealing to more than just one audience group is simply how it goes.

fuck blightstormers

>Magic "Weave" modifiers provide infinite levels of difficulty
>For the endgame we want players to discuss specific weaves, experiment and figure out which classes and strategies are best.
Will it work?

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>it's almost impressive how they manage to make the performance even worse with each update.
Well I remember playing the demo and dropping bellow 30fps on the first map. Now I can set over 40 at all times at least.

>casts a shitstorm on you without line of sight in a tight corridor already packed with enemies
heh. nothin personnel, southlander.

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glaikit

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That happened to me the other day.
Joined a server and I spawned underground. Could fire arrows up and hit guys.

Yeah, happens way too often.

FATJEW PLEASE JUST ADD A FUCKING MAP EDITOR
L4D2 DID IT
IT'S NOT HARD
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

A meta will be found within a week so no

wait what? I thought cream.api doesn't work on it?

sounds good but do they plan to fix the shitty loot system?

Kruber had a hard life

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All I want is an 'auto salvage any gear less than orange' button and for shields to be viable. Maybe with groups of archer beastmen.

Mmhhh it kinda is.
The engine is really bad and look how long they take to create 2-3 maps taking 4 months for that.
They try to optimise modding tools for public use but so far everything is a bit of a hassle.

thank god alt careers aren't canon

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I have it but I couldn't ever find anyone to play with. :\ I have no IRL friends and my internet friends said it looked lame so I didn't finish it. I was enjoying it though..

>tfw still playing Onslaught + Death Wish with friends
just get better friends dude

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Kruber's FK might be due to the tutorial.
He's also the only one where his old career is gone. Sure kerillian called him a mercenary for being under pay by Saltz's but witch hunters are under the state and he was still officially an empire soldier.

If you're decent at Legend and located in Yurop, drop your steam id.

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I bet knight Kruber would be replaced by stormcast kruber and would otherwise be identical in VT3

I never liked L4D much, was its AI director as crazy as Vermintide's? Legend runs are either smooth breezes or instant wipes with bosses, specials and hordes in a shitty place.

I played it for 30 hours. It was pretty fun, but then I just sorta realized that I wanted to play Left 4 Dead again instead because shooting at hordes is way more fun than the melee combat they have in VT2

Everyone has good options, yes, but nothing really holds a candle to what elf gets in all of her careers and weapons.

haven't played since launch, what makes shields bad and have they always been bad? I played mostly shields back then and did fine.

Less damage in exchange for more stamina then you will ever need

Considering how fucking broken parry is and how dogshit every other weapon trait is shields are useless because you effectively have unlimited stamina with every weapon already.

they have terrible mobility and the lowest damage out of all the weapons. a lot of moronic ironbreakers pick shield weapons because they think they can be the "team tank" and block things for everyone which is a completely useless thing to do. you basically only pick shield if you want to contribute nothing to your team.

Not him, but the main problem with shields is that they're not very useful as is. Shields are too defensive when it's better to delete hordes as they come in instead of shoving and blocking in front of them. Bosses have unblockable attacks where shields just have shitty dodges.

I thought that the reason shields were amazing in V1 was that you could quickly just spam the charged shield hit, stagger locking any horde for the rest of the team to safely mow down.

The first DLC pack had two maps, if you're talking about V2.

I don't mind a rocky start but I'm really annoyed at the mediocre DLC and little to no support they've given to V2, specially compared to 1.
First two DLC in 1 gave you completely different settings, the latter two weren't as exciting but at least Stromdorf gave you a new 'boss'. Did anyone actually play the 4th DLC to judge it? Game was dead for my region by then.

There are trinkets that give you stamina back every time you timed parry. Necklaces that give +2 stamina, talents that give stamina and ideally you're in a choke point and timing your swings so you won't need to use all 8 stamina shields pushing.

I didn't mention stamina or pushing.

You just can't do that in V2. The charged shield bash only comes out as your first heavy attack meaning you have to guard cancel to keep doing it, and the horde comes in too quickly for that. Also, because you don't regain stamina with temp hp anymore, you can't just spam push stabs.

Yeah that's more or less my point. Even a weapon that gets the shield bash as the first attack in its heavy combo it's far slower than before

I hate when game devs give summer as a release window because it's so nebulous. It can mean anything from May with the end of the school year to October with the end of actual summer.

Name a more perfect duo.

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How to WHC?

Gotrek and Felix

Just got the game a few days ago. Really enjoying it, but is it just me or is that elve in every single game? Why do so many people gravitate towards the cliçe hot elve archer girl?

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use rapier
don't get hit

Acquire ability.

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She's got the best kits in the game so she naturally attracts the most shitters.

In that case I prefer the warhammer. Longer, wider hit range and staggers everything.

>no orcs
FUCK OFF FATSHARK GIVE US SOME FUCKING BOYZ ALREADY! FUCK YOU'RE FURFAG BULLSHIT I WANT GORKA MORKA ORCY FIGHTY TIME!

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Don't, it has no killing power

She's the best of all worlds in all fields. She does nothing poorly. Elf main big brain is a real thing.

...

There's a reason it's already been sold for pennies via Humble Bundle.

If PC bind a button to "secondary fire". For some reason it's unbound. You get infinite pistol shots with the rapier using it.

...

>50% increased headshot damage
>Headshot crits instantly kill mansized
>No killing power
You've never played the game have you, nigger?

>have Dwarf holds for new campaign
>no nightgobbos
10/10

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Would they ever want to associate with Skaven though?

Also has an unlisted passive for +5% crit chance

Good boards all

FER DA FITE YOU GLOSSY EYE'D GIT

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I dont know when you last played but Saltzpyre is by far the strongest character right now.

Rapier => hordes 5% crit + 5% speed atack .
Pistols= 10% v/s rat + 5 crit

Pistol= ELITES
Rapier = HORDES

simple

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WHC is one of the best supports if you take temp hp on taggable death you're basically healing the party for heaps the entire run. BH is nigh worthless compared to Waystalker after the last bit of nerfs and Zealot is really good. The only problem with Zealot is his ult is pretty lackluster.

3x0 is still 0, dumbo

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>t. hasn't played since they buffed it
it's the class with the most killing power in the game now

tasteless normies and weebs

weebs

Tell your dipshit allies to tag elites. I think they need to rework the ability, maybe add a talent that lets you tag up to 3 enemies at once or something to compensate for retarded team mates.

How do I play Ironbreaker properly without pissing people off?
Besides the obvious like not roasting my team alive with a drakegun.

it's Fatshit's favorite class and gets preferred treatment. almost every single one of her weapons is damn good
and also legolas and also weeb warriors and also trannies

>Backpedaling away from a rat ogre carefully firing dual pistols into his head
Falcion/axe is pretty good too.

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F talents that aren't some combination of
>aoe pushback
>run/jump in a straight line
>turn invisible
>shoot a bullet that homes in/does massive damage

the fact that every class has the same archetype is fucking lazy as hell

Drakefire, Natural bond. Keep entire hordes at bay. If your team is running in front of the literal flamethrower the problem is them not you. Use natural bond healing to be able to vent as much as possible without giving a shit. Also slap barrage on your flamethrower for maximum damage.
You can nearly stunlock and take out storm vermin patrols this way as well.

Don't roleplay as a fucking mmo tank

So anyone in the party can get the tag bonus? I thought only the witchhunter's tags specifically gave the bonus.

no dlc, sorry

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Nope. As long as he is alive any tag that is placed increases damage by 20%.

Zealot more than makes up for it by being immortal and getting a free +30% power to EVERYTHING.With Axe+Falchion he's literally a tankier Slayer who also gets a ranged weapon

Oh thats how it works? I always thought it was any enemy tagged by an ally gave Saltz a damage bonus. Well nevermind im retarded.

I guess? I still just hate how the bonus he gets from his dash only lasts a measly 5 seconds. Fucking pathetic.

nah
rapier is crit/chaos swift slaying
pistols are crit/monster scrounger
charm is crit/infantry

>the empire is germany
>uses a czech city in image
kek mohammed

For Kruber
2H Sword > XSword

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ELF SUPREMACY
Tired of carrying everyone's mayfly ass

That's horseshit. You might as well compare it to everyone else's abilities. Those few things don't make it ok for his ult to suck dick.

>he's literally a tankier Slayer who also gets a ranged weapon
but zealot doesn't come close to slayer's damage output even at full stacks. he is technically tankier but it doesn't even matter that much because slayer already shares zealot's most broken defensive talent.

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>most classes have 1 or 2 viable weapons
>literally every knife-ear weapon is viable except maybe the sword

That's because if you take the 2 health per enemy hit talent at 25, 5 seconds is more than plenty of time to go from 1 to full health in the middle of a horde

Slayer has 100 hit points while zealot is a full 150 HP class with also built in death-prevention and health sustain

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By actually using your fucking melee weapons sometimes, Jesus Christ.
Optimal play does mean using drakefire pistols a lot, granted. This is not being contested.
But the sheer amount of Ironbreakers who are bigger pussies than officer Bradford is incredible.
Shit's a fairly low cooldown dash with a small attack speed boost added onto the end. The dash is the important quality and adds a lot of utility. Your fixation on the (unremarkable) attack speed boost may be distracting from this.

zealot gets an unconditional 30% power and 60% crit power, as well as a brace of pistols, which is a shade level boss killer
slayer builds up to 30% power very quickly but loses it quickly as well
a good zealot will shit on a good slayer in damage every time, and can play like a total fucking retard to boot

don't get me wrong either, I think slayer is great, he has a very specific niche with warpick in an unmatched ability to dick down hordes of chaos warriors, it's just not enough to match zealots damage overall

You wish, I've never misfired, dont use hagbane, and I never have to since a single slave rat picks you fuckers off, I'm always reviving.

Until you rush ahead on your own and all we can here is HELP ME LUMBERFOOTS

What melee weps go well with IB?
I've mostly been using a 2h axe.

hell yeah son

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who here is also /FilthyHagbaneUser/?

*lf

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i only play this trash these days just to FF shitters with hagbane on legend, the ammount of salt is legendary

I couldn't get into it

Everything not ending in the words '& shield' are good

>I-I'm not like the other elves!
Yeah, whatever elfnigger.

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yes, but flagellant is by far the most important factor that contributes to zealot's inability to die and slayer has the exact same thing in the form of oblivious to pain. this is the key talent that lets you avoid instant death from the only things that down good players like off-target attacks from elites.

/vtg/ talked about this exact topic recently and it was clearly demonstrated that slayer outdoes zealot on damage consistently. what you're ignoring is slayer's massive attack speed bonus over zealot that lets him mulch anything and everything in half the time it would take a zealot.

2h axe is good, 1h axe and dual hammers are good too
warpick is good if you like to shit on chaos warriors, but it's a little tough without slayer speed

>V1
>shields are very useful
>can block attacks for others
>can do shield walls
>V2
>shields are useless
>dodge is a lot more important than block
>cannot block attack for others
>trading stamina for damage is nerfing yourself

V2 made shields trash but they were saviours in V1.

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> bestmen confirmed
> bestmen #1 enemy is bretonnia
Bretonnian knight/Paladin confirmed

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>warpick is good if you like to shit on chaos warriors, but it's a little tough without slayer speed
Yeah, that's the impression I got when I first used it. Swings seem to leave you wide open.

>cannot block attack for others
They can if blocking a doorway. As Kruber with a pike behind him I heard lots of shield deflections.

It was unironically my favorite game of 2018, but I had to abandon it due to Tencent buying half of Fatshark

There are no other elves, I am THE ELF player, I am the apex, the prime and certainly better than filthy sagging ballsack dwarves.

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What a dumb post.

2h axe is not a bad choice.
Warpick's hilarious with Gromril Armor, make trades with CWs with zero fucks given. Balance of crowd control and anti-elite. But lack of Slayer speed can be a downer if you're used to that.
To be honest most options are good. Apart from shields. Ironbreaker's defensive bent is best paired with more aggressive weapons, gives that leeway.

A third, not half.

Take that piece of dog out your mouth and say that shit again

it's very clunky how blocking for others work in V2, sometimes it does sometimes it doesn't, most of the time it doesn't so I will take it as such, while in V1 you could make a shield wall in front and people behind you would wack the horde, and it was fun because actual cooperation rather than chase for green circles

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A good lad gifted me Vermintide 2. I've been playing it for a good time.

I'm playing it on my AMD Athlon II X4 645, 8GB RAM and GTX 1050ti 4GB and I have pretty much those poopy issues. It seems like it just isn't a rig problem obviously but just the game optimization.

Case in point, just another shitpost.

Nope, half. The way shares are divided doesn't exactly help either

>caring about something that hasn't effected the game in any way
Sure I'll be upset if you can suddenly buy Emperor's Vaults for $0.39 each but come on now.

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if we're talking 100% melee only, sure, slayer would barely edge out over zealot due to speed and how much uptime you can have on leap, even though axe and falchion is better than any of slayers weapon choices
bosses at bad times are the biggest enders of runs however, and zealot can just fucking delete them with brace which is a free 2k damage pinata

>amd
>gtx
god user its like youre retarded

what year were they talking about here for the dedicated servers?

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Speaking of his defensive capabilities, when exactly should I be using his career skill? Is the taunt even useful at all in Legend?

Pick is great if you can use it right, it has a lot longer windup than other weapons for heavy attack to do max damage, but if you pull it off, it one shots stormverminds, 1 shots maulers with +% dmg to chaos and 2 shots CW
and wide swings are great against hordes

> play total warhammer
> skaven campaign
> bunch of diplomacy interactions where rats discuss seeing sienna and one-eye
heh

Tiananmen Square Protests of 1989. But seriously, I don't tolerate the Chinese Communist Party in my vidya.

>is an aggro draw and 80% damage reduction in the difficulty where enemies do the most damage useful?

Hmmmmm

If people/you start to get overwhelmed by a horde.
Taunt boss can also be very helpful. It's always situational.

IB's ult is extremely useful in Legend and can often save games. The only problem is how long the Cooldown is.
Basically use it whenever you think it's all about to go to shit. AKA, an inopportune patrol pull during a horde or boss, etc.
You can even use it to knockdown packmasters in a pinch to save teammates.

>handing over all your info to the CCP doesn't affect you
Ni hao, cunt

Yeah, because you were having so much fun.

>dedicated servers
>new dlc
you also forgot they keep customization which they promptly removed from game description and brought in almost a year later

I asked them a couple of questions including a question about the dedicated servers and dodged it while answering everything else during one of their twitch streams.
Please fuck off to /pol/ along with your le ebin chinese bugmen xd memes nigger

yeah but does it even work now? because it didn't for a stupidly long time

Grimgor Ironhide kicked Archaon the everchosen in the nuts.

I was. Did every level on Legend, almost completed the grimoire and was trying to master niché weapons. I was even a mainstay in the general until Tencent

>Vermintide
It has orcs, minotaurs, and other shit

Never. It would be hard to justify a saurian warrior making it all the way into empire territory without anyone noticing. Even a skink would be pushing it.

Only if you do me the favor of fucking off back to /r/china

Can certainly be useful in a pinch.
If you get a shitload of elites/berserkers/CWs mixed into a group can draw them to yourself, let everyone else whale on them without reserve.
Don't hesitate to use it as a knockback if needed. If someone gets hooked it will knock the packmaster off them.
One of those where it's not too remarkable but also not bad.

BoP really isn't as strong as you're making it out to be for deleting bosses and it's not a wise usage of ammo to begin with. i don't know any decent players that would do that instead of dodge tanking and trading aggro to control the boss while other members deal with hordes/specials. you can't even full ammo dump now that you have to reload BoP, so you would just be awkwardly dodging away while reloading as you waste all of your ammo in order to do maybe 20% of the boss' life. and this is all assuming you even get a boss in the first place which is never a guarantee, unlike the constants that are elites/hordes (which slayer is superior at killing).

>they just deleted this page silently and now refuse to ever talk about dedicated servers
good old fatshark.

>tfw no Karak Eight Peaks campaign

RIGHTFUL
DWARVEN
CLAY

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I know, user. The vidya card was a gift from my mother. I take care of it, all day.

OK NIGGA BUT WHEN YOU SAY NEW WEAPONS DO YOU MEAN ACTUAL NEW WEAPONS OR JUST 'LOL DOUBLE SWORDS' OR SKINS FOR EXISTING WEAPONS?

BoP is 100% as strong as I'm making it out to be for bosses, you haven't seen a properly built Zealot with 6 stacks, concoction, ult and 20% monster damage if you think you're only doing "maybe 20% of the boss' life."
It's well over 50% user

Sure you were.

>Play ironbreaker with a shield
>Hear a horde coming
>Block off a ledge so my team can kill them as the rats climb up
>Take a fireball in the back
>Knight Kruber and Zealot Salts charge ahead to get all the green circles

I don't even know why I bother.

What does me having fun even have to with anything, you weird autismo?

you need the 30 cap skill to draw bosses and keep in mind it has a radius, yes it works

>>Play ironbreaker with a shield
stop

That's going in the book.

>using shield in a dodge based game
why?

These stairs go up!

she's fun, ESL poster

>Even a skink would be pushing it.
Skinks canonically travel the world searching for Slaan tablets, actually.
Fuk you, Axe+Shield and Drake Gun forever.

IT AINT ME, IT AINT ME. I AINT NO GUILDMASTERS SON

Bardin has a great melee repertoire, so you can't go wrong outside of shield weapons. Just make sure to round your coverage appropriately. If you have a crowd control weapon like grudge raker or drakegun, for example, use axe or pick for armor. I'm fond of axe since it's Bardin's most mobile option (big dodges and six of them, to boot) with good single target damage. Goes well with boss taunt since it's easy to kite with it. If you're running something like xbow or handgun for some reason, 2h hammer has good armour damage and an excellent wide sweep for crowd control on its heavy attack. It's just a bit slow, so you may have to trade blows with it at times.

Should i buy Vermintide 2 now?

I don't even play this game anymore and even I can still tell you that you're the shitter here

If you arent using the flammenwerfer for 95% of a level as ironbreaker you are playing it wrong

Single One hand sword is goat though, decent clear and the charge attack is a top down armor piecing chop, very good all purpose weapon

These stairs go down!

You were having so much fun you quit the game over stocks of all things. Truth is you're just here to bait, post the tianamen square pasta already and be done with your shitposting.

Because I can block all the rats so long as there's a door or something. Meanwhile it still kills good, can bash rats back and there's off balance. Also the dorf has a smaller frame so ranged fuckers can just shoot or even stab over his head to get the rats.

Depends on how eager you are to serve the Chinese Communist Party.

oh shit, you're that ironbreaker that ends a legend game at 1k damage

>fuck you
>be totally useless for the team
Nah user, I'm fairly sure the team you are playing with has more right to say fuck you, than you.

Yeah, you really need to call your targets and know when to come in with it, but the fact that it can 2HKO CWs on body blows and OHKO them on a critical headshot makes it absolutely worth it.

Remember when Legend chaos patrols had 10 chaos warriors?

or you could pick 2handed weapon and be actual asset to the team and actually dish out some damage

>Expansion called the winds of magic
>No new mage character
For what purpose

I bet you just block after using your skill, fucking nonce.

that and when pickaxe heavy attack is fully winded you get bit of extra speed to close the distance
it's a very sadisfying weapon if you can use it

No, I really do not.

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I was still playing the game up until that point. I even had to awkwardly tell my regular playgroup why I had to stop playing. Regardless, it doesn't matter what you think or if you believe me or not.

Stay seething, my yellow friend

Sienna will become the Incarnate of Fire

i'm not sure why you would build for power vs monsters when power vs chaos/armored can hit breakpoints against elites, which again, is much more valuable because elites are a guarantee in every map. but even assuming that's the case, the latter half of what i said is still true. you're spending all of your ammo and waiting around for BoP to reload instead of just sticking to melee and conserving ammo for specials which is the most effective thing to do.

remember when Legend didn't feel like just Champ with bit more damage to player

Nah, rotate blocking and chopping.

remember when the ai director would spawn 2 patrols and a boss 10 feet behind you at the same time?

>totally useless
Axe is good for mob clear and armor, shield bash sweeps out mobs, shield gives me basically infinite stamina, combine with the off balance trait that boosts others dmg against them. Not everyone is a green circle chasing cawdooty retard like yourselves

Well, whatever you tell yourself. I'll still rather believe that you're just another low effort baiter than genuinely this misguided, Mr. Chang.

It's not a bug.

So last week?

>basically infinite stamina
you can have that without shield too
it's not about chasing green circles but your clearing power, weapons with shields have worse clearing power than dorfs 2h weapons and you cannot deny it

>Tfw they'll never add a grail reliquae to Vermintide.
>You'll never carry a corpse with three other bros well kicking the shit out beastmen.

I can dream.

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Remember when chaos patrols were silent and had a chance of spawning with disablers?

>see if you just ignore all the extra benefits that zealot gets and only focus on the one thing they share, they're basically the same!

>I'll still rather believe
Cope harder. All in all, you sound jealous because I actually have principles

Zealot doesn't have any real breakpoints at 6 stacks, I feel like you're assuming Zealots aren't flooring their health at the start of a map and then ulting it back up
Granted, I could be over valuing the power of killing bosses since I play on Onslaught and all events that trigger a boss trigger 2 instead on top of an absurd amount of elites and specials, and dropping down the meat hole in Convocation of Decay is a guaranteed 3 bosses too
I also play on RV so ammo and bombs aplenty

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I came up with a trio of Brettonian classes the problem is I realized they were literally just kruber, he already covers them

Yeah I tried cream but I couldn't get it to work, did anyone get it to work?

>RV
underapperciated ISIS suicide boomer

>He thinks holding a shield up does anything useful
You are why I kick all iron breakers on sight you useless shitter

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>weapons with shields have worse clearing power than dorfs 2h weapons and you cannot deny it
Yes, the trade off if you can block so your allies can kill the enemy while you parry.

RV is straight up broken man
Best class in the fucking game

>breakpoints
He gets a power boost so it doesn't end at damage output

It's also stagger and cleave

Bully entire patrols to death

this is not v1 man, this tactic unfortunetly doesn't work
>wow we surely fucked up with that heath drop trait what do we do?
>switch it do bombs?
little they knew, they made him more OP

you aren't going to want to hear this, but you were in the wrong here.

Is it?

The painfully long cooldown and base 100hp kinda hurt.

So, still useless, then

In all seriousness, Bretonnia would be pretty shit in my opinion since most classes would be too close to the big K. Maybe a set of classes built around a peasant might work though.
Honestly I'd rather see a vampire or a skaven from another clan as a 6th character, if they were to actually do one.

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The winds of magic are a climate phenomenon in the Warhammer world. As magic increases strange things can happen (gameplay modifiers)

So you make your teammates do the work. Classic.

yeah, whatever new character i think of, its nothing that cant be covered by the already available cast

>mfw using the item reproc trait on ranger veteran and getting 6 bombs in a row on a boss

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Gib lizardmen character

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After the Chaos turncoat

never ever

It's harder to play since it's squishy and the invis isn't quite instant, if you use it in a pinch you'll just get hit and die while you're dropping the smoke bomb
That said, dual hammers are a great melee weapon for it and you can take a crossbow and use the same SV 1 shot that bounty hunters use while also retaining infinite ammo, and take the bomb proc trait for a whopping 35% chance for a freebie
On skaven heavy maps I match zealot/shade in damage

>that one time I got 6 bombs on War Camp Leg during Boss and still had 1 extra after the boss

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One of them at least could be a Mousillon Dark Knight, which would at least shut up the 'wheres vampires' crowd

but i didn't ignore them. i'm not suggesting that zealot and slayer are equally tanky because that's obviously not true. i'm suggesting that slayer already has a key talent for survivability and thus "zealot can take more of a beating than slayer" is a moot point. slayer even has a +20% HP talent but nobody ever bothers with it. know why? because once you have oblivious to pain, you're already set defensively, so you're better off increasing your killing potential with an additional +5 to CC.

at full stacks with a&f, power vs chaos lets you kill maulers in 2 heavies vs 3 and allows you to take down CWs noticeably quicker. power vs ___ also adds to stagger so you can slap the shit out of elite groups with ease.

If your teammates need ammo it is

Why the fuck are elves so obsessed with skaven dick?

>zealot keeps all his buffs under his temp health
>mercenary kurbs doesn't
it's not fair

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Ahh, I see. I really should get around to unlocking the dlc weapons already. I'm just a bit upset they're so good.

You mean fun.

Loremaster/Shadowdancer/Sorceres elf when

>ywn play a brettonian knight who is on a John Wick crusade against Skaven because they killed his horse.

I played for 427 hours and quit because it was taking too long to add new levels and it seemed like they were going to nerf guns soon. from the sound of it I was right so I have no intention of coming back.

Just started playing, Can't stop thinking of Dr. Animo when I hear Saltzpyre.

I guess all it boils down to is I'm more concerned about bosses than I am about maulers, and heavies stagger the shit out of everything anyway

Just take your 30% power my man, it's better anyway

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Anyone ever play with the Twitch mode on?
>have it do the votes on the fastest intervals possible
>playing on Fort Brach
>dealing with the catapult while a Bile Troll runs around
>Chaos Spawn runs and blocks the exit just as the last catapult is destroyed
>barely keeping it together when a rat ogre is queued up to spawn
>say fuck this and manage to sneak out with another guy
>watch third guy runs across the bridge with 3 bosses chasing him after the fourth was killed
Shit gets so over the top it’s great

No one matches damage with a Shade wielding purple potions.

Well if sitting around blocking while your team does the work is your idea of fun, then more power to you. Personally I'd rather be actually killing things, that's fun to me.

shade is no fun allowed
deleting CWs while you want to dance with one

Yeah, we used the mod for it too that adds a bunch of options like explosive barrels spawning already lit under you, or people constantly trading positions and teleporting everywhere, 100x dodge distance, 100x jump height and some bullshit like spawning 4 bosses at once

I said overall sperg
Not in a 10 second window

>finale boss
>bomb salvo procs galore
>shade gets blown the fuck out by proxy and starts getting salty in the chat

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No. Killing the infantry is fun.
Watching your team's back, blocking hits and killing specials is the work.

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Haven't played in a dog's age. Is Saltzpyre's hatchet good yet? That was my favourite weapon, but not one-shotting chaos trash combined with no cleave made it tough to use effectively.

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>Killing the infantry is fun.

Not gonna be doin' much of that, that's for sure.

It's great, use it on WHC or Zealot, all you need is 10% chaos if you're on WHC and you can one shot chaos trash now

there is hatchet + axe in new dlc, it's pretty strong

I'm a WH lorelet, but weren't the vampires and undead on the good guy's team against chaos/skaven up until the very last moment when Nagash through a shitfit and stabbed everyone in the back?

Use the faster swing speed perk with WHC and your gucci

it's really good now. they gave it increased crit chance on the light attacks so you've always proccing swift slaying (crit attacks also go through everything which mitigates the poor cleave).

ya

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Reminder that 21 Dwarves are worth ~1000 Elves.

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>Kruber whiffs a bomb
>Not. ONE. Not a SINGLE ONE, KRUBER!
>Uh, I think I saw one limpin'...

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Considering Shade can
>reduce her cd to 40 seconds with a talent and consistently crit with sword and dagger (light attacks have a passive +10% crit chance) and resourceful combatant to further reduce that cd to ~20 seconds
>has volley xbow for crazy dps and a talent to gain ammo with backstabs
She really doesn't need a potion to dish out stupid damage.

>only 8
Try 13

like how god intended

Undead is pretty much a neutral faction and is broken up between Vampires, Tomb Kings, and Nagash during the End Times, so they all have their own priorities and allies. In the late End Times and early AoS, Nagash begrudgingly teams up with the forces of Order until he decides to go back to do his own thing.

>Vampire
>Not Lizardman

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I know what shade can do you large retard
It doesn't change the fact that on skaven heavy maps, an RV is 1 shotting every SV in sight all map long, matching you on hordes with dual hammers and bombing the shit out of any tight clumps of bad shit

>those high-quality kerillian 'comic' panels

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>Being a furfag
Die

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Greenskin will be a playable character.

Kicked em ight' in da gork n' morks.

What would they even be? A skink starpriest?

Being able to keep their empire propped up despite the absolute insanity pressing at their borders is commendable in itself.

Is there a reason not to use crowbill for sienna

>short list of grudges
Gets me every time

why would a lizard man be in the old world during the end times, there's literally no reason for just some random lizard man to being hanging around when the ded frog is getting ready to blast everyone back into orbit

It's still better than everything else she has even after the nerf. You could make an argument for using flame sword or something if you want a ton of temp HP from cleave and like to use your staff a lot.

>Lizards
>fur

it's her only good weapon, so no

I like the standard sword on Unchained for the crazy high stagger and damage being made up from heat stacks, but otherwise just use crowbill, straight improvement over mace and pairs really well with most of her staves

Scales are still furry

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Devs move at a glacial pace but this is an unexpected and welcome surprise. I main whc/zealot (crazy synergy with falchion axe rn, good mindless slaying)

It's not very good for hordes, but pretty much every staff is an answer to hordes so. Only reason not to use it would be because it might not work with the temp hp talents available for you.

>been wanting to play some verm again
>see it’ll be update “soon”
>lose all interest to play before the update
Why am I like this

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I haven't played in ages. Is Handmaiden good yet?

Reminder that dwarfs literally have libraries of grudges.

I dunno if she was ever bad.

>sudden major update
i'm sure this has nothing to do with them finally finishing the console version

She's a melee god with the highest dodge distance good enough to move you with a glaive, the widest good weapon selection and an ult that can get you out of every bad situation ever, yes she's good

>glaive
What about the spear?

>Liking warhammer lizards makes you a furry
And you are still a retard.

Every career is good, especially on the elf who is pretty much made out of A+/S tier weapons. Pretty much the only redundant one in the whole game is Battle Wizard

it's because 8th of march is soon, anniversary

Arguably her best weapon, it's spear or glaive

Weak armor pen makes it suboptimal on higher difficulty

Dumb furry

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>Every career is good
playing IB is like watching paint dry

You can get through armor with spears absurdly high headshot damage

If i had a PC i'd play the shit out of it. I hear its alot better then the first. Someone give me a fuckn opinion

>press F and warpick a chaos patrol to death trading hits and walk out with like 30 health missing
He could be worse desu

Based. I might start playing again, then.

IB is good purely by virtue of being nearly completely idiotproof. It's the best class for newbies to learn the ropes of Legend once you smack the flamethrower and shield out of their hands.

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Strong doesn't equate fun. It's the most boring you can be. And it's value only increases depending on how hard the deed you're doing. If you're just doing Legend runs and you have at least ONE good ranged career in your group, you'd have more fun and be more effective as a Slayer.

>Against the Grain finale
>people get themselves killed under huge ass waves of armor and berserkers and I'm the last one alive
>manage to get it all killed and finally start progressing
>>hagbane knocks a dude inside of me and gets me killed
I just wanted to be cool and useful for once in my life, man...

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bump

i have about 75 hours in it but havent played in quite a while

the only fate wortwhile of an elf

it's a straight improvement over 1 in just about every way. more enemies, more weapons, multiple classes for every character, talent trees that let you customize, all sorts of shit. you can still play it without a PC but last i heard the console versions were in rough condition.

Funny since AoS is selling more models than Fantasy ever did

>tfw no quests and contracts

>spoiler
fuck you your worse than the manlets who use those baby pistols

yeah, they definitely fucked up in some areas like traits being less interesting than they were in 1. but overall i'd say 2 is a much better package.

more like boring tide 2

Vermintide suffers from that even more than L4D because theres only so many ways you can vary combat encounters with the simple melee combat

>Simple melee combat
Compared to even more simple melee and simplistic gun mechanics?

l4d at least has you aiming. fights can happen over any amount of distance or you can shoot up at them from a roof. Theres a lot to look out for. Meanwhile in vermintide you just have enemies run to you and you hit them

>buggy as shit
>no meaningful updates
>reshell spyware cuz jew fags
>no versus mode like l4d(very much needed)

I cant say its a bad game though. Its just not fun to play more than 1 level a sitting. imo

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>no versus mode like l4d(very much needed)

pffffft hahahaha

@452912407
2/10, not enough to earn a (You)

>Meanwhile in vermintide you just have enemies run to you and you hit them
>there are no ranged threats in vermintide

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dumb fuck

Mino boss is probably boss of the whole arc but imagine
>Jabberslythe miniboss

Fuck i guess that was pretty obvious bait

Fuck you. Double fuck you, you fucking fucker.

t.lazy dev

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play waystalker/bounty hunter/ranger vet/pyromancer/huntsman you chode

Yea and theyre all designed and balanced around being able to be killed by melee heroes. If you play a ranger you're in for an even more boring time because you're shooting at braindead stupid enemies that can do nothing but wish they could hit you

you did not play this game beyond baby difficulty

Yeah and shit in left for dead is designed to be killed by guns, so you're just mindlessly killing shit that has no chance of ever engaging with you

yea i did, maybe youre shit at games
theyre designed to be killed by guns so their AI accounts for this by orchestrating encounters that are hard to deal with the capabilities and resources the team has. Vermintide has no situational variety like this because everything must be meleeable

Nope

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no, you didn't

how to get illusions for dlc weapons?

Total overreaction to a benign marketing tool.

>so you're just mindlessly killing shit that has no chance of ever engaging with you

play verses or confogl nub ass retard

>theyre designed to be killed by guns so their AI accounts for this by orchestrating encounters that are hard to deal with the capabilities and resources the team has.

yeah, and shit in vermintide accounts for it by throwing shit that's either difficult or impossible to deal with melee. I'd like to see you try and kill a blightstormer that's halfway across the map in a place you can't possibly reach on foot.

Get kills, like 1000 for each skin.
You can see the achievements in the Red Book.

your're really good at taking that dick up the ass and it disgusts me.

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bump :D

>ez game
>thinks its hard
>someone in thread calls ez game ez
>gets mad
>types"mad cuz bad"

lol?

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What's wrong with the drakegun? It used to be the best horde killer. Just sit and roast.