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If I want to play Xenosaga what's the best way to do it?

Get a PS2
Buy Xenosaga 1 for about $10, Xenosaga 2 for about $10, and Xenosaga 3 for about $70.

Literally the only option. Emulation is trash.

How would you rate the Xeno games?

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What did choco mean by this

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2=x>blade1>torna

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Forget link

Don,t

He was complaining that his artbook wasn't coming, then it arrived and his wife got him one too, cue your pic.

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Xenosaga 1 > 2 > Missing Year > Pied Piper > 3

Give me the pic of all Nia's prototype swords, please.

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Super cute.

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Shit that is one sexy malos

Xenosaga 1 had painfully slow load screens on the PS2 from what I remember playing it like a decade ago. Didn't play 2 and 3.

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I feel like the minute I try to buy Saga is the minute they announce the collection with the upgraded version of 1 and 2.

Gears>Blade>Saga I=Saga III>Blade X=Blade 2>Saga II

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Yeah
Not to mention there's the whole PS5 backwards compatibility rumor.
I wouldn't mind buying a second hand ps2 to play saga but waiting to find out if the rumors are true is annoying

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Unpopular opinion, mechs are holding this franchise back

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How could anyone like kos mos she literally doesn't have personality at least pyra has the ara ara thing for her

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What (and where) do I farm to get good Skell weapons? I have these two shd-gravity shoulder guns that slap mobs really hard, but they’re not perfect since I got completely reflected by some random fal-Swo tyrant in a literal corner of the map. Fuck that how was horrifying, didn’t even know what happened in the first two attempts.

Well, in Xenosaga 1, she was by far the least annoying member of the cast besides maybe Ziggy.

youtube.com/watch?v=I-VjcVhPzLY
holy shit someone made me realize what was that thing that made fonsett so touching for me
youtube.com/watch?v=r4t_j8GvSyE

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Emulate the Undubs. Xenosaga Ep I has a great english dub but they changed actors for every release.

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But you can only play the original dub through emulation.

How do I beat Elly in Gears?

HD collection when?

>shion goes from a disturbing chipmunk to a manly realdoll, then to a good looking animu character with a touch of realism

Xenosaga sure was weird.

Monolithsoft have a long history of shitty looking character models. I'm not so sure going full anime was a mistake, considering past releases.

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>Emulation is trash.
Why the fuck are you lying?

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Episode III looked great but then they regressed again for Xenoblade.

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Honestly fonsent is my favorite place in the game, in most rpg hell even in blade 1, the protagonist village is destroyed and the protagonist has to taka revenge for it, but in blade 2 is different to have a place with after all the group has come for is refreshing, a place isolated of conflict, you sense how melancholic it is, but it still has the sense of home

>forgetting based Jr

not him but I know in XS1 some of the save crystals hard crash the game. You could argue save states but as one who doesn't usually use emulators I've lost massive amounts of time due to overwriting them.

Their outfits are still fucking retarded.

Yeah, save states are simpler and quicker to use. It's also nice to use stuff like 2x speed for the awful dungeons and combat. Xenosaga Episodes I and II are in a pretty bad state and it takes some dedication to play them through, a remake would be great.

Well thats a series staple

Its funny to me because people have always complained so much about the character models too for years. I remember when the XCX story trailer came out and so much hype instantly diffused when people saw Potato-chan. Now XC2 has decent character models and everyone is upset.

Is monolith and retro the only good studio's working for Nintendo?

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Whatever do you mean?

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Jesus christ why do the models of blade 1 look so bad, i know it was on the wii but xenosga 3 already solve that problem

What does this say?

So Torna came out just a few months ago. Will it be 2-3 years before we get a new release from Monolith? and will it be the fantasy adventure game or a Xeno title?

They sacrificed model quality in favor of large, expansive environments with minimal load times.

Because Saga was full of hallways instead of open areas. Same reason BotW Link is less detailed than this guy.

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Wii wasn't that much more powerful than a PS2 and they had to scale back the models to be able to render a large scale open world. Plus something about them not having a character designer but I don't really know what that was.

Whats our future xenobros?

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>Wii wasn't that much more powerful than a PS2
That's not true. It was a beefed up GC, which was already more powerful than the PS2.

New game announced at E3, another game from their second team a year after that.
I would post the machine translation but then Soraya will yell at me again

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Emulate and use cheats for 1 and 2 if you find they drag.

Why

At this point don,t even play the games

>next xeno girl its based on choco wife

What is the the deal with this rabbit?

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The endgame battles of 1 and 2 can drag for fucking hours. Using some cheats to upgrade your attacks saves a lot of frustration.

The text is Poppi's diary explaining how her merc mission with Pyra is going. On the first day Pyra is worried for Rex, but will carry on. On the second day, Pyra looks a little tired and does a creepy little laugh. On the third day Pyra has gone completely insane with lust as she can feel Rex is extremely anxious without her, but this fills her with pleasure, "this is a true bond! Hahahahaha!", Poppi is completely scared.

She spouts a bunch of poorly translated jokes and 90s weeb references.

Looks:
XS1 Shion = XS2 Shion >> XS3 Shion

>Vector Industries second development
>KP-X 00[...]001.2
>Meister : Shion Uzuki, Allen Ridgeley

Quick reminder Xenoblade 2 IS connected to Xenosaga, and KOS-MOS Re: is most likely a new KOS-MOS they built after the original one went to Lost Jerusalem, and they're going with her to retrieve the original.

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Well just what i expected

KEVIN?

I like XS3 Shion.

Sounds like a bad game

Do you think we'll get more Xenosaga content/cameos in future Xenoblade games?

Is there a more cockblocked character than Allen?

me too
>that civy outfit

Just grind fag
like in the good ol days

She's awful in all three of them. The girl goes from a nerdy putz to a bitchy soap opera heroine. She doesn't even have a finished story.

Hopefully not

She doesn't look very happy

Yeah, in Xeno Warriors

Is there anything that suggests this is coming apart from wishful thinknig?

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Hyrule warriors director (thankfully not the fire emblem one) say he wanted to make one

NANANANANANA KATAMARI DAMACY

>twitter.com/choco_mugi/status/1101518693773672448?s=19
What do the runes on the books say?

>retro
fuck off lol they haven't made anything in eons

It's the XB2 artbook.

At least they made something

Why would she be?

>Order XC2 Artbook mid February
>Delivery date March 12
>Yesterday get text from shipper it's coming on the fourth
>Excited and pleasantly surprised
>Today going to work get text from shipper saying its en route today
I don't have a proper image on my phone to express my joy and excitement

You have to admit that her XS3 design is great.

>the very subtle erect nipples in her official art

No. I said XS3's outfits are still fucking retarded. I meant it.

She's not gone&forgotten anymore.

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Something tells me that the closest wed get to Gears characters in a crossover would be recolours like in XB2.

What the hell was her problem? Why did she turn down an invitation into Smash Bros?

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Why would anyone even want her?
She's like the most boring character possible. If you wanted her just because chocolate, then T-elos is an ifinitely better choice.

But she didn't, she's a sprite.
Sakurai didn't seem to really care for XCX as much as 1 and 2

Cause I want to SLIDING STINGER nigg*s in Smash. She'd be like a sheik, fast and agile but hopefully hitting faster.

Kos-Mos with T-elos echo please god for dlc

>tfw we'll never get a proper scan

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Someday. No day.

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NOW WE DIED

Whats that?

KOS-MOS and T-elos sitcom when?

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>when

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I liked her in all of them but agree she got a bit melodramatic in 3. Still, I like that she's a vulnerable, flawed main character.

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A frenchbro doing his own Xenoblade 2 illustration book

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Blue robot girl is so cute

>tfw

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I like this running theme throughout the series.

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LEWD
FEET

get off your ass Shion

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Even the anime had a scene in bed. WHAT DOES IT MEAN? 2deep4me

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>the xs devs were secretly trying to give the player a sleeping girl fetish

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Jr., you sly dog.

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Too bad it gave me a deadpan robot girl fetish instead.

She's barely a main character, though. That's the problem. She spends the majority of XS1 and XS2 caught up in all the URTV and Y-Data bullshit, to the point where once she has the spotlight in XS3, there's nothing there to develop her character but weird power and some soap opera drama involving her dad and her late fiance.

Same user I'm excited! I wasn't expecting it for at least another week

wtf you let your brother watch?

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This art is really good why can't we get scans?

Based Takahashi shoving in all his fetishes
Ssshhh, she's sleeping

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Well, for one, his book isn't out yet

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About 10 hours into Xenogears, just got to the prison city place.
Why is the dungeon crawling in this game so bad? The aesthetics and music in the towns are 10/10, then you get to a dungeon and it looks like ass, has nothing but sparse ambiance, and the encounter rate is tediously high. The normal battles are fine at least, but gear battles just seem like the same thing but more watered down.
Does it get better or do I just have to get used to it?

Also, can I get a quick rundown on the battle system? Do I unlock gear deathblows just by learning more normal deathblows? And do you learn deathblows in general just by trying different attack combos a bunch of times?

Everything in the hospital and Shion's story there are some of the strongest scenes in the trilogy.
She takes a back seat in Ep II because they made Jr. the main character and we all saw how that turned out. Takahashi then fixed that for Ep I & II on the DS. I don't know, the whole series tells a very personal story despite being about saving the world and planets and epic space battles, they always focus on the characters stories rather than go full on politics.

Only incels dislike Shion. She is the second best protagonist of all xeno.

That's some bad taste right there

Is there one in 1&2?

Xenoblade 1 had perfect character models, not sure why they didn't stick with those

Do you have a source on this or are you just guessing?

It took some time to get used to them but now I appreciate their charm. MOMO looks like a rejected Bratz doll but that sort of makes sense.

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Xenogears did the same thing. Despite being about saving the world from an evil bio-computer that thought it was God, the actual story focused on the main characters and how they grew. About half of Disk 1 is "Fei grows up and accepts his responsibilities and powers". Disk 2 is "Watch Elly turn into a motherly saint" with a little bit of "Fei solves his Hollywood-style Multiple Personality Disorder" shoved in near the end. Solaris, Deus, and all of shit related to them are just an excuse to make Fei and Elly develop more and reveal more secrets about them.

>nigg*s
go BACK

The men's models are fine, but the women's are fucking weird.

XenoBLADE 1, not Saga

oh. No those were pretty retarded.

My nigga.

Naaaaaaah

Xenoblade 2 has the best looking character models, with the only other game that even looks good being Saga III.
All we need for the next Xeno is Tanaka designs applied to 2's rendering engine.

Fei and Elly were overwritten as fuck. They, Miang, and Krelian made the focus of the story way too centered on a select few characters and the rest of the world and cast suffered as a result. It got to the point where the game was having thirty minute cutscenes for their past juxtaposed with a mutant apocalypse taking up two paragraphs in a PowerPoint presentation.

How do I pull rare blades on Xenoblade Chronicles 2? I have like 4 or 5 missing and I get nothing but trash when using even legendary cores.

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You make like Daft Punk and get lucky.

if you haven't already, max your luck stat using accessories and common blades that give luck bonuses

Get a bunch of legendary cores. Smashing relentless ardun gives a ton. Then, stack luck on one of your drivers (accessories and luck boosting common blades). Open all your cores.

Shouldn't take too long. If you know the element of the blade you want, either use a driver who's highest value matches (for example, Kosmos would be light/darkness so you want high judgement). Alternatively, using one booster at a time will force the core opening to use the matching element for boosting the draw chance. One booster at a time is more likely to help them using 5 at a time because it will last for more draws.

>Still can't load into Xenoblade 2 on emulator.
Why aren't they working on this game specifically. I thought it was one of the biggest on switch.

just fucking buy it dude. it's worth it.

Damn bro I'm sorry you're going through that shit right now

I'm a PC graphics whore, can't play games under 1440p. It's a blessing and a curse. I can't wait to see how amazing it will look upscaled.

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Ziggy, Jr, and Albedo were fucking great. I didn't appreciate Shion or Chaos until we got the new actors in 2.

Xenoblade isn’t even top 10 sales anymore. It’s a shame that no one cares because I wanna emulate it too. The 720p tops dynamic resolution and sharpening filter really don’t do it any favours.

Every time people post PC screenshots of Xenoblade Chronicles models, they're using a face mod that basically freezes their faces into a freakish look and loses basically all the emoting the regular software provided.

They also never post shots of them in armor sets where YOU can actually change their properties and values. Just whatever had the biggest numbers at the time.

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I don't care.

I just want KOS-MOS in Smash.

That's not too much to ask. So much to work with.

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The HD faces are hot garbage, but the regular faces aren't exactly amazing either.

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I keep telling people to stop ruining the game for themselves with that garbage texture pack but they just don’t care a lot of the time. Why bother playing a game like Xenoblade when they don’t give a fuck about art direction and cutscene animations?

the environments are the important part

I die a little inside every time I see a screenshot of Gaur Plains that's full of purple bushes for no good reason.

>I have like 4 or 5 missing

Buddy you don't even know real pain yet. Wait till you only have 1 rare blade left in the pool.

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I kind of like the later more plot oriented dungeons, but yes they are big and have way too many encounters. I feel the opposite, gear combat >>> on foot combat, deathblows are way too simple.

Yes you gain new deathblows by repeating the same actions a certain number of times, everyone has the same deathblow combinations. I'm not sure, but I think you also have to unlock them in sequence, although the pre-req number of times you have to do each attack remain even if you haven't unlocked earlier ones (thank god). Gaining more deathblows gives Gear's more death blows.

This is a good thread

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>Allen
Never changed

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Owning a Wii, downloading Xenoblade Chronicles, loading it up and starting it on my big screen...

...I didn't expect this screen to be so beautiful with such wonderful music.
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....but then, after more than a minute of just letting it sit there and enjoying the swelling music, to see the colors sharply change...

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...and to continue to a brilliant night.

Loved the game literally BEFORE the start to finish.

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It's a mandatory screenshot

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thoughts?

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Does Torna run at a higher resolution than 2? I just started playing it and it looks smoother than 2. Or is it same resolution, but lacking that weird vaseline filter 2 had?

Man, I was just thinking about how much I missed this series earlier today. I just want to play games about big robots in space.
PS2, obviously.

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They used a new graphics engine or something.

They should let CHOCO be the main character designer for the next game.

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I'm just at the start, so it's possible it gets clunky when there's a lot more to render, but for now it's actually impressed me after how choppy the base game felt at times. I'm also assuming it's not something they could have patched into the base game either?

I honestly couldn't even tell the difference between Shion's voice actors and if no one had told me they were different people, I never would have noticed the change at all. What kind of autist cares about such minute differences?

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Needs more porn.

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>Buy Xenosaga

Don't do this. Game is trash.

>Personality:
>XS1 Shion >>> XS2 Shion >>> XS3 Shion
Shion was a cunt in every game.

most likely a toasterfag who wastes his money instead of upgrading his PC

more moeshit due to how well XC2 sold

X port announcement happening any month now.

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What kind of autist can't tell the difference between voice actors?

They replaced most of the cast from 1 in 2 then for 3 they replace many again but then rehire a bunch from 1 so there's no continuity with the voices and it's all a clusterfuck.

just don't, it's irredeemable garbage

monosoft already said no

are you sure they're not blades you get from side quests?

Saga series is trash in general.

link?

youtube + popcorn for 1 and 2, pcsx2 for 3 which emulates surprisingly well

They said they'd like to, but it's not likely any time soon.

best blade

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link?

CHOCO Shion is great.

usgamer.net/articles/xenoblade-chronicles-2-postmortem-breaking-down-the-inaugural-switch-rpgs-success-with-tetsuya-takahashi
It's near the end of the interview.

When they finally X2 will he be an important character or will he show up for 2 seconds in the ending again?

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How well does Xenoblade Chronicles emulate? Tried it a few years ago on a toaster and it didn't go too well. Got an i7/1080ti beast now.

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Why did he ran past the barrier he himself set and was perfectly safe behind? Just got to this scene yesterday and it's been pissing me off.

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When I first booted the game I sat there for 2 hours fucking astonished how beautiful it all was. Xenoblade 1's main theme will forever be my most favorite piece of video game music.

He was trying to prevent the detonation before it happened, the barrier was a backup.

what did they make? prime in 2005 and a shitty dong freeze rehash 10 years later and then went in utter radio silence

>He was trying to prevent the detonation before it happened

That's retarded.

What are you expecting from a Odyssey Emulator? It's the same shit as CEMU which is a BotW emulator. See you in 6 years.

best thighs, atleast

jesus christ how the mighty have fallen
from a eons spanning space opera akin to 2001 to generic shonen trash

if you niggers like xenoblade this much where the fuck where you when the company made better games? fapping to pokemon?

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Abandon thread, he's here. Or simply ignore him.

>no arguments
>L-L-L-L-L-L-L-LMAO
2001 was literally their inspiration you dumb faggot read a book

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good idea

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Well yeah, he somewhat resembles the Testaments from Xenosaga, which isn't odd since Xenoblade X is basically Saga lite.

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plot convenience
they needed to show nia 2.0 somehow

JUST A SCRATCH LMAO

>2001
>good

>when the company made better games
What company?

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Gears and Saga were niche as usual with JRPG's, but even then they both broke over a million sales and managed to gain a following. Saga has a lot more issues though since Episode 2 basically ruined everything. Secondly please learn how to type correctly ESL, why are you even here?

and best VA

pretty sure OPL loads the undub just fine

>replying

fuck are you doing

Here's the in game model for Black Knight.

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Who would Malos get along with? Albedo? Wilhelm? Yuriev?

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?

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Probably Albedo.
>Immortal
>Madmen
>Chaotic

>Tiger-Tiger
Go fuck yourselves.

Fuck you faggots

I'm still not sure how they would handle X2 without compromising what made X so enjoyable, or turning it into an inferior version of the numbered Blade games rather than its own thing.

Putting your space opera pilot in an open world tech demo is a weird choice.

Pleb detected

What do you mean? All they have to do is replicate the emphasis on exploration, innovate the Skells, and include a bit more plot than the original X did while tying things together, and we'd be good. Only thing I'm overly concerned about is the art style. I hope it has a more Xenosaga 3 feel if they plan on going for a more realistic style again.

Don't be afraid to use easymode, it was made for zoomers

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The problem is being forced to constantly play such a boring minigame to upgrade Poppi. It's isn't hard in the slightest.

I wish the better version of Hana appeared in the cutscenes.

If they don't port it I hope they include all the content in X2.

>here I come
>ready or Gormotti
>x10

kill me

I guess I'm speaking about X2 as a continuation of X1's plot (and ostensibly cast/setting) while also including new areas to explore. X1 ended with a lot of cliffhangers so the natural assumption is that they'll try resolve them in a sequel.

X2 could totally fuck off from NLA or even Mira or the "earth got fucked we had to leave" setting and I'd still play it if the good stuff was there.

Do we know how many games Monolithsoft is working on, 2-3?

Probably just the two.

I want to fist that android

It's been discussed a lot, but yeah I have no idea how they plan on connecting the ending events of X1 to the beginning of X2. We could always jump to New Tokyo or New Paris as settings, but what about the characters from X1 like Elma or L? I assume they could journey to the new sector, but who really knows. I just hope X2 has more story emphasis.
Currently, one team is working on the Fantasy IP and the other is working on either XCX2 or XC3. Likely XCX2 since they just got through with XC2 and want to jump between titles, but who knows.

Just go to NG+ at that point, you can trade in bonus XP for batches of ether crystals in Torigoth.

Two. The fantasy one and another xeno game

Would be nice to see X2

>youtube.com/watch?v=VjPWTEtuv74
>youtube.com/watch?v=fv7c0si2AEo
These songs were so damn good. I love when Yuki works on OST's. Where's she been anyway?

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>Nia uses obvious powers to bring back some retard who decided to an hero even though he could've just hid behind his Blade's shield
>but fuck Van Damne lmao

god the writing is fucking horrendous

Kajiura on Xenosaga was a treat. Bring her back if we ever get a Xenosaga IV which is never I could settle for her in a bit more story-driven XCX-2

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>I can't comprehend character arcs the post
Please stop talking.

How would you fix Elma's character?

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Pretty sure Vandham fucking up his very own etherflow or something couldn't be healed anyway

Bros my art book came in. The art looks so much better in person

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Bigger breasts

tiger-tiger is BORING

go back to your shit shonens faggot

We got a lot of Pneumas, these last few days

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okay makes sense

I mean he was clearly ready to die. The nigga stabbed himself with his own blades. As for Nia, if you don't understand her basic character development, I don't know what to tell you.
Thank God for the artbook.

Same here user. Can't wait to get back home.

Just don't use poppi then. The game isn't that hard you can easily get through it without using tora

1. Make her louder, angrier, and give her access to a time machine.
2. Whenever Elma's not on screen, all the other characters should be asking "Where's Elma?"
no but really
explore her motives for helping humanity, whether she cares about them as people or just as a means to defeating the ganglion
explore the lengths she'll go to complete her mission (whatever it was in the first place) and how it might conflict with any personal interests.
having her respond to the lifehold core archives and any sense of responsibility she might have for the people in NLA might be interesting too

it's hard to care about elma when she's so shut off and basically pulls a Citan/Gramps and withholds tons of information without talking about herself.

>hur gur I want another one dimensional shonen protagonist
Kill yourself. Elma is great.

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>Nia
>development

my sides

Someone has the Elma pic that says pic up the pace and kill yourself?

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Based, thanks.

The same thing could be said for Mythra who only chose to come out until after vandam died

she seems to type to not give a shit about plebs like van damne

With the way things went on, there wasn't much she could do, and couldn't think Vandham would die in this encounter. He basically went kamikaze there, it was already too late

>we'll defeat them with the power of friendship

XC2 is a pardoy isn't it? There's no way this is a serious game.

>artbook came today
>dhl didn't even try to knock on the fucking door and just gave up and left with it and sent me a notification to reschedule
My landlady was home and signs for packages for me when I'm at work, what the fuck is wrong with deliverycucks these days? Just the other week the USPS threw a box with two fucking monitors in it over the fence too. Can't wait until you animals are replaced with drones.

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>playing the dub
You only have yourself to blame

>burger services
How come capitalism works better in old Europe?

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I was getting texts from them asking if i'd like to disable signing for packages. Super glad i noticed that

X >1 >2
Haven't played saga or gears yet

>just got to the sewer dungeon in gears
This is painful lads, please tell me it doesn't get much worse than this

It doesn't really. USA and the EU both have major faults in how they approach capitalism but in general the USA, from a burden of government and regulatory perspective is closer to France than it is to Germany or an Eastern European liberalized economy. The USA also has lower overall social trust due to being a more diverse immigrant society and is bound together not by shared blood and culture but by shared underlying values and organic economic relations.

You have higher inherent social trust in most European countries which generally means higher quality service workers, but I've spent time living in the USA, UK, France and a short stint in Australia and have visited more than a dozen more countries in Europe for 3-7 days and I still prefer living in the USA. I just wish we had a more efficient federal government. Separation of powers is great and I understand why our founders were so big on it, but the system was broken from the start, the executive has accumulated far too much power and that has translated into an emasculated congress and a massive maze of executive agencies that have replaced our democratically elected body as the lawmakers of this country through administrative law. That and our pension system is fundamentally broken, there is zero political courage among our legislators to actually fix it before it completely collapses in ~30 years and having to deal with a global taxation system is the thing I hate the most about being a US citizen. Were I a citizen of Singapore or the UK I would actually pay less in net taxes because the US government taxes income you make abroad that is already taxed by the government of the country you made it in. No other non turd world country does this.

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Elma will never love you.

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They should've been the protags.

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No one liked the player character in X.

Alex did.

So I just started this. Any tips or tricks? Will I even have enough points to level this guys attacks and shit?

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Indifference is not liking.