Steals your code

Skyrim Together has a member on the team that has been blacklisted from using SKSE for stealing it’s code multiple times over. When he joined the mod team that blacklist carried over so the mod wasn’t allowed to use SKSE at all and the team said they knew this.

The closed-beta (which was access via a “donation” to their patreon, which is fine in Beth’s eyes as they didn’t use the CK) had a bunch of code of SKSE in it, making it an illegal mod.

Jews over at skse are afraid of the white devil using their code

>illegal mods
kek

this is the most retarded drama ive ever seen. just fucking fix the gay desyncing bugs already and release the shitty mod.

>illegal mod

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>They're charging a subscription for access to updated builds and server access.
That was going to go public after a few weeks. It's timed exclusivity to people who donated, you're not being charged anything for access.

will the mod police write them a ticket for this transgression?

you wouldnt dowload a code would you?

yikers

>tfw download an illegal mod and hear a knock on my door

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>charging money for early access
>but it's not selling a product or charging for a service you see, it's a "donation"
ebin

if it's not optional then it's not donation
in your case, it's buying for access, not "donation"

google "Lagulous".

No.

>charging money for early access
You keep falling on this, when that's not what happened. Patreon donators got early access, this is typical of any project through the platform. The project was not locked behind donations, after a mere few weeks anybody would have gained access to the project. Ergo that's not a paywall, it's timed exclusivity.

I fucking hate modders. Drama queens and autistic is never a good combination. They make some good stuff sometimes and then the other half they embarass themselves with their “writing” and stupid fucking rebalance ideas showing just how fucking stupid they really are

So why do the SKSE niggers feel they have to ruin a great thing that every one in the community is excited about just over a grudge?

Can't they just be happy someone is working to create something great and not cause drama?

Both sides are complete retards, modders in general are utter faggots, reminds me of that guy that removed all his mods because orange man won plus all the modders that instantly removed their garbage to sell on the steam paid mods shit showing how little they care about the "free community".

>the project is not locked behind donations but you have to donate to get access to it
this is your brain on patreon. even if it was going to be released for free eventually that doesn't change the fact that they locked it behind a paywall.

>MIT license
deserved desu

There is no such thing as stealing code
You either compile your shit or make it public domain

I see lots of titles saying that ST is shutting down the project. Is this clickbait or have they actually given Up?

>We have decided to end the closed beta to address some of the concerns some of you have. The next phase will be open beta once we have addressed everything that needs to be addressed.

>I appologize to the SKSE team for not having removed all of their code from our code base even though we are not using it anymore. We will write up a post to credit the different source projects we are using and have used in the past very soon.

>We have received more than 100 000 crashes over the closed beta and want to thank everyone for their support and patience, we know the closed beta was very unstable and thank you for all the data we managed to collect to improve the mod.

>We look forward to the open beta and hope you guys are as well. As we never manage to hit our deadlines we won't give any ETA but hope to get it out to everyone asap.
tl;dr nothing is happening unless bethesda or skse goes after them legally

> skse goes after them legally

?
how would that even work

It wouldn't go anywhere. Unless they copyrighted the code so no one can use them.

Reminder that TES3MP is the superior multiplayer mod and experience.

So its ok to modify other people's name but it crosses the line when another person modifies your modification?

I think another problem is that even if they make the mod free they have gotten real cagey about letting people run their own servers. All parts of a mod have to be free so if they don't allow people to run their own servers or keep it behind a paywall then the mod becomes a paid mod and that is against Bethesdas TOS.

The mod police will come and get you while saying mean things.

>Copyright a code that gets injected into Bethesda property

How would that even work

>makes 35k a year off your modification

Copyright is automatic, you don't have to do anything.
SKSE's license is literally just:

>These notes apply to all of the files in src/skse:
>Due to continued intentional copyright infringement and total disrespect for modder etiquette, the Skyrim Online team is explicitly disallowed from using any of these files for any purpose.

It's not MIT like some people think, they just used the generic MIT wording for their disclaimer:

>THE SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED "AS IS", WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND, EXPRESS OR IMPLIED, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO THE WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY, FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE AND NONINFRINGEMENT. IN NO EVENT SHALL THE AUTHORS OR COPYRIGHT HOLDERS BE LIABLE FOR ANY CLAIM, DAMAGES OR OTHER LIABILITY, WHETHER IN AN ACTION OF CONTRACT, TORT OR OTHERWISE, ARISING FROM, OUT OF OR IN CONNECTION WITH THE SOFTWARE OR THE USE OR OTHER DEALINGS IN THE SOFTWARE.

Only part of SKSE is under MIT. The rest is not

Bethedsa gives modders copyright to their work. If the modders doesn't want people to use their stuff then they cant

>Mass green text of bullshit

yeah man, this shit does not apply to mod, which are basically open source shit.

>35k a year
35k a month.

the mod community truly is worse than fucking resetera

I don't think Bethesda has the legal grounding to "give" copyright to anything, copyright is always given to the creator and falls under "literary works" in the Copyright Act.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_copyright

Is there a nice blacklist of really shiity modders who jumped off nexus, etc for the paid mods shop? I want to shit on them. Fuck the skyrim multiplayer guys who locked their shit behind a patron paywall and their own server hosting bullshit. Hope they do get sued.

The only person who quit forever was Enaisiaion, because he didn't get into the CC

No it isn't, code is copyrighted and licenses are literally nothing but "text of bullshit", you simply say something is under the MIT license and it simply is, you don't have to file an official patent or anything like that.
SKSE isn't open source, only the stuff in the /common folder is.

>illegal mod

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>illegal mod
loool

Don't forget that post by one of the ST devs talking about how the lead dev is a psychopath

>illegal mod

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>illegal mod

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>drama over 'stealing code'
Always a good way to find out what the priorities of a modding community are

Yes it's illegal under copyright law, licenseless code is very strict and basically grants no rights to anyone but the code's writer.

Why haven't you joined the winning team yet?
>OpenMW
>Fully open source
>Built in multiplayer
>Soon to allow for a dehardcoded Morrowind
>Can be used on Android
>Eventually will support Oblivion and Skyrim

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I fucking hate this autistic Earth. I just wanted to play Skyrim with friends. I don't understand why everyone has to be such a bitch and go "muh pride and code"

Some mods like Sotha Sil Expanded don't work with it

>an illegal mod.

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It's not open source but you can still tell they are more interested in spiting people than mods being created.

>an illegal mod
if you wanted to start a reaction image thread why didn't you just say so

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>spiting people
Skyrim Together team are massive cunts who paywalled their mod and showed no signs of stopping, and their lead would go after other more promising multiplayer mods.

>illegal mod

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>illegal mod

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Not putting an explicit license in your code is very bad practice and just leads to this kind of fuckery, no serious company ever uses licenseless code in their software since the original creator can throw a tantrum and sue them.

>Nonpermissive open source
Fucking autists I swear

openmw.org/2019/followers-of-shadows/
>Capostrophic has been working a lot to make OpenMW compatible with the popular (and huge) mod Sotha Sil Expanded. There are still a few nuts to crack before the mod is fully compatible with OpenMW, but Capostrophic is on it and we’ll let you know when everything works as intended. Sometimes you have to go to other content than vanilla Morrowind to find bugs in the engine, so big mods like these offer great opportunities to find unknown bugs and spot differences between OpenMW and vanilla Morrowind.

Only one guy is working on supporting assets from other games and so far it's only that with no scripting.

>illegal mod

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Based.

>Illegal mod

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mods contain a lot of artwork assets so it isn't just software

open source =/= source available
SKSE is fully nonpermissive since it doesn't even have a proper license, thus not open source, they can disallow anyone to stop using their stuff whenever they feel like it which is pretty gay.

Except they've only ever disallowed this one guy, because he's human garbage.
Imagine being the one person, specifically singled out, from using a tool millions of people have downloaded, because you're just that big of a twat.

I know that feel. Surely they are all doing it >for free anyway

What happened to the good ol days when modders made content for free? Fuck these greedy and lazy jews. Go make a real game if you want money you fucking kikes.

That skyrim multiplayer mod was behind a paywall that they were 35k a month off of and you could only play on servers hosted through them.

Minecraft

>Except they've only ever disallowed this one guy,
they don't allowed anyone to modify and redistribute skse. they specifically mention this guy because he continued doing it after they told him to stop.

The artwork would fall under its own copyright, there's no law dictating specifically what a mod package falls under.
It can get messy too, if an artfag in a modding team decides to be a fag he can disallow the rest of the team from using his art unless they signed a contract explicitly giving away the license.
Always make a contract and a license.

Bethesda gives the right of ownership of mods to the mod's creators, so yes, illegal

Are you retarded? It was the SKSE drama that kept the paid mods shit from working. A lot of the paid mods on Steam were using SKSE so they were shot down as soon as they were up.
If anything, SKSE being so zealous is what saved modding the first time around.
I don't know what kind of brain dead retard wants to play Skyrim coop but I am glad they got cucked.

Fucking this.

I don't understand why doing something for fun and a hobby now has to get "funding". The fuck are you paying for? Man power?

Oi, you got a loicence for that mod?

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enai just released a cool new modding around worshiping adrea and deadra so i don't know what you are talking about.

Blame Valve when they implemented their paid mods bullshit for Skyrim then they backed out leading to bethesda in making the dumb creation club shit

Oh.
Then nobody has stopped.

>make furry mod for skyrim
>lots of downloads
>another autistic furry modder steals my code and make it better and adds more content
>gets 20k monthly on patreon

What kind of cringy children want to play Skyrim coop?
Is this the same audience for Fallout 76?

>his lower case a is just a smaller A
Jesus fucking christ.

I don't get paid mods. You are already stealing the work of a company to save you years of work, and you still want to get a benefit?

I'd firstly kill myself for being a fur faggot.

That'll be 500 beggar bucks plus tip

Paid mods to me are like paying Kraft to send me macaroni art by five year olds.

Bethesda has no say on SKSE's code, just what is created with the creation kit.

*nuzzles you*

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Everything starts small.

>being this much of a contrarian shitlord
Maybe you just need a fren.

>Being so dilusional you think that opinion is "contrarian"
fucking children getting tablets too early to be posting here

Your bait sucks faggot.

Thats an oof from me