It just looks like a futuristic shooter...
There's no atmosphere. There's no beauty. There's no themes. There's no stealth. There's no immersion. It's just a cheap shooty tooty game with big explosions. The world looks so empty despite them trying to make it look interesting. The game is just a plain and boring looking action game.
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you are right, we all know that. but we have to pretend like it's going to be the best game ever because most of us are severely autistic. cyberpunk 2077 is actually nothing more than gta V set in future.
It looks fun to me.
>cyberpunk 2077 is actually nothing more than gta V set in future.
This. It's obvious that they re-worked the game mid development for mass market appeal, despite that I hope it's fun but I doubt it
damn, you can make all those judgements based off of the 48 minute gameplay trailer that showed one early game quest?
absolutely agree with you.
if I didn't know better I would have said it's a Shithesda game. everything about it gives off that Skyrim/Fallout hackery vibe
Really? How is it obvious? Please elaborate.
>hurr it’s obvious
>CD Projekt CEO praises GTA V and rockstar's business model
>initial trailer seemed more serious
>new trailers are more focused on action and are fast paced
>numerous rumors of dogshit management and constant reworks to the gameplay and engine
Anyone with a brain can see that CDPR is going to make the game more casual and aimed at mass market, just look at what they did to The Witcher with each release. There is no way this is going to be a hardcore RPG, it's aimed at the casual crowd and will have less RPG mechanics than TW3.
>Praise Rockstar business model
Ok. Not praising the games but the business model right? I'm not sure what that means in regard to this. Please elaborate.
>Initial Trailer seemed more serious
It's been something like 6 years. Things change. Not necessarily for the better.
>New trailers are focused on action and fast paced
Nothing wrong with making something seem exciting to sell a game. This isn't a problem in the slightest.
>Numerous rumors
>rumors
So it's nothing.
>just look at what they did to The Witcher with each release
It stayed virtually the same.
>outsourced cgi trailer before work on the game even began and video itself was announcement of acquiring ip and recruitment for people who want to work on it
also quote from 2013
>There are lots of cyber games around, but there's not a lot of punk in those games," he said. We want to put more punk into ours. We do not want to make a dark and hopeless world. We are not doing Blade Runner. It will be full of rock and roll.
It seems game looks exactly like it was intended from the very beginning.
>from a carefully crafted open level game with investigation quests that let you roam aimlessly and figure out shit yourself, with an incredible atmospheric soundtrack
>to a generic ubisoft tier open world with quests that are summed up by following a red trail, with generic slav folk
yeah, virtually, the fucking, same
You can't go back and play the Witcher and Witcher 2 and tell me they didn't have quests that pointed you directly towards the objective.
>rockstar's business model
why you lyin nigga? he just said he likes rockstar and want to make games as poplar as them, thats it
Hilarious how words can so easily get twisted to fit a narrative isn't it?
as opposed to having VIRTUALLY ALL THE QUESTS COMPLETELY DRIVEN BY A STUPID RED TRAIL MECHANIC
yeah, yeah I fucking can. nobody of worth on the witcher 1 team was present for 3, and you can tell
It's the fucking same thing. What are you getting so mad for?
One is just more visual than the other. Something you need in a large open world. I'm not defending the decision to go to open world. I'm just saying this objective tracking nonsense is a shitty argument and you have no idea what you're talking about.
Arkam asylum vision is pretty shitty user. Why are you blindly defending it?
you are full of shit
it's good you're not defending it, but witcher 1 left room for exploration and player agency and you're definitely wrong in claiming it didn't.
>>from a carefully crafted open level game with investigation quests that let you roam aimlessly and figure out shit yourself
The fuck game are you even talking about? None of the Witcher games fit this description.
1
The witcher 1 was set pieces. You rarely could interact with anything without being on the proper quest or world state.
I think he is one of those 3rd person fags or triggered gaystera tranny. Normal human would just ignore the game if he didn't like it, but for some reason cyberpunk 2077 still causes massive amount of butthurt. I guess it's because they cried about 1st person so much but cdpr ignored them completely, they can't deal with it since normally every company caters to them.
It didn't anymore than 3, is what's being said. You're the one claiming there exists some real, appreciable difference, but there isn't. And this is obvious to anyone who's actually played the games and doesn't suffer from some autistic knee jerk reaction to a vision mode that highlights certain environmental details.
They tell you exactly where to go all the time. There's only ever like 4 places you can go to begin with. Nothing about 1 requires any active thought whatsoever. It's just as much a play by the seat of your pants action RPG as any other entry in the series.
wrong in both cases
I've played the alpha.
NDA aside (Cause like ass you're gonna find out who I am irl.) it's shit and will be forgotten in 1-2 months.
The game has ZERO difficulty when it comes to how you want to tackle missions. Literally anything / everything works.
One thing they got right though is that melee DPS is far superior to ranged so you can pretty much murder bosses uber fast and you get so damn fast with wall juking that there's no reason to even drive later in the game. Just wall sprint everywhere. (Except for the numerous missions that MAKE you drive, like how in Red Dead 2 they make you go on horseback.)
Pirate it for the graphics / to say you've played it, do not purchase.
that's almost like you didn't play it. but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and say a lot of years have passed since it released and you misremember
It's ok to be upset but generally speaking when having a discussion you need to use your big boy words rather than just shutting down like an autistic child.
>durr i don't like stuff
cool. now kindly fuck off
Unlike 1 and 2 where you constantly smashed the highlight objects button as well?
>buzzwords
>it's okay to be upset
it's not okay to have no argument though
>makers of witcher 3
thought that game was shit even when I bought it for £10.
dudemind
Now now. This is no way to have a discussion. Use your big boy words. Come on, I know you know how.
And you're keeping your complaints vague because we don't know much about the game at all. Either an obsessed autist or a paid bethesdrone shitting on the game.
My uncle works at CDPR and says that they give out the alpha to faggot streamers just to shut them up
Nope, half the quests in the original Witcher are generic MMO style collect a bunch of monster bits shit. The rest are all extremely straightforward. Only a couple have meaningfully different outcomes based on your decisions, but the same is true of it's sequels. That you think any of these titles demands any meaningful amount of thought from the player is more telling of you than any given content within the game.
>Anyone with a brain
No true Scotsman right off the bat. They do have that sticky at /pol/ so you can avoid this sort of shit, you know?
LUL this is how I got in the alpha. I just emailed every single dev every single day.
Did this for every major game and has 100% success rate.
He already made his argument. You responded with, "nuh-uh."
>Damage numbers appear when you hit targets.
No thanks.
>half the quests in the original Witcher are generic MMO style
better than 100% of quests being MMO style
>denying reality
>argument
lmao you w3 fanboys are hilarious
is that samus fuckin aryan?
I wonder if you'll be able to turn it off. I can't imagine why you wouldn't be able to.
probably. wont be able to turn off the cyber senses though because quests are designed around it :3
anyone who unironically thinks the witcher 3 isn't an improvement on the others is a fucking idiot
Virtually every single quest in Witcher 3 has a story behind it. Half the quests in the Witcher 1 are literally people asking you to bring them 10 vials of vampire blood. You've succeeded in demonstrating you have no idea what you're talking about.
That's fine. I like those. I just hope the humanity cost isn't too steep for a lot of the cyberware.
Nice opinion piece faggot, you'd make a great games "journalist."
good non argument fellow /int/ poster
>le story
>that somehow changes the fucking generic mechanics
lmao virtually every WOW quest has a story behind it too.
We're all forgetting what the original teaser showed us. Judge Dredd recruiting fucking maniacs to hunt other maniacs. This chola and friend will be prologue characters, mark my words. They will either die, get imprisoned, or act as "do you want to choose the gangsta route, or the justice route" and after that shit will get real.
>The game has ZERO difficulty when it comes to how you want to tackle missions. Literally anything / everything works.
Like Deus Ex, then? Neat.
That shit that's in the trailer is going to be in a game, most anons are just brainlets and fail to remember the demo we were shown was at day time in the cities outskirts, and most of the in engine trailer was during the day.
h-how did you know I post on /int/
witcher senses :^)
I think it improved on a lot of things. I think the vast openworld wasn't a great addition. I think it detracted from a lot. It did its best though by having a lot of ambient quests and stuff to stumble upon.
you can turn it off, it has been said since day 1 the gameplay trailer came out
it's not like they haven't lied before or anything
Neat. I personally like them even if it can lead to autists metagaming the shit out of things like it did in Monster Hunter. I just like knowing how much I'm doing and if it's effective or not.
The mechanics are the same as literally any RPG. An MMO quest is one in which you collect a bunch of random shit and drop it off with someone for no reason other than you were told to. That's what half the quests are in the first Witcher game. In 3, nearly every quest has a story that provides real context and more often than not provide opportunities for real choices.
>This
>Lying
Come on, user. Plenty of shit changes in development. Especially over 6 years.
b-but dey trowwed the ess jay dowbwe yous so day must be good!!!!
Everything in this image is true. What did they lie about? You autistic Australian piece of shit.
>seething Ubisoft and EA
He's talking about TPP. Third person perspective. Which they canned.
in 3 nearly every quests is summed up by following red trails while holding right mouse button. then ''investigating'' by holding said mouse button again and interacting with the ''clues''. insert some reskinned enemies and there are your quests
if that is the same as literally every RPG, then you haven't actually played any RPG besides w3, which is actually common with you witcher 3 fanboys
>I think the vast openworld wasn't a great addition
I don't think it was particularly detrimental or beneficial. Though, the amount of missions wouldn't really work in a drastically smaller environment, and the structure for quite a few would need to be altered substantially.
The only thing that changed in that entire list was that TPP isn't available, and iirc they've said they did that so you'll actually see a change when you get augments that change your hud and such.
yea bro stuff changes CDPR aren't massive shill liars no sir
What are you talking about? Go and watch the gameplay reveal and you can clearly see them driving in third person. So they they are right on point as the game is a mix of FPP and TPP. Only autistic Australian pieces of shit would argue that this is not the case.
>dense city
>it's actually as empty as witcher 3
I enjoyed modern Deus Ex, hope this will be like it. Though I’m not sold on driving/bigger map. Hubs would’ve been better.
There is 3rd person tho, you can drive the car with it, so it is technically true.
>TORtanicfags are still mad Witcher 3 didn't crash and burn
It's also easier to render and make the game more accessible to a wider range of pc's if you aren't constantly rendering the player character.
you played it? no? then shut up about what it is and what it isnt
we don't know, you don't know
*blocks your path*
True. I hadn't considered the out of body moments and car stuff.
sure there is, you'd just rather pat yourself on the back for believing the contrary
Eh, easier.
Like you have to go into a drug den or some shit filled with a fuckton of guards that will auto aggro you if you just start opening doors and shit, but you can ltierally cyborg outrun everyone, run into the boss room, kill the boss, then all the fuckhead henchmen just fuck off cause the boss is dead, and instead of having to go back the way you came in, you just casually exit the back door, to a bigboi in a car waiting for you to drive to the next objective.
Or like some bitch wants to screen you for some jobs, and if you attack her henchmen or her (cause she's a cunt) it just mission-fails you and you have to start the scenario over, with a death screen that tells you how you fucked up or what you're supposed to do.
IMO it's not my kind of game but some people might like it.
It should be like Morrowind. If you kill some quest cuck the game is like "Welp, can't beat the game now bud." and lets you continue on.
Don't talk to it, idiot.
oh no! you say that a company that's in the business of MAKING MONEY said something to their consumers that was not entirely true? what event from the past could've prepared us for this impossible to foresee tragedy?
you are literally an imbecile, look it up, its you
The city has plenty of npcs wandering around, not as many as their would actually be in a city but they want this shit to come out soon and not in another decade and we've seen just under a hour of gameplay, which showed off two main quest missions.
Most RPGs don't necessarily have highlighted trails specifically. Most, instead have a compass the points you exactly where you need to go. Or you open a map and click exactly where you need to go. Or they are have highly linear environments that, by their very design, direct exactly where you need to go. In the end, there is no functional difference. You're missing the forest for the trees.
In all other senses, the Witcher 3's highlight investigations really aren't any different from clicking to look at something like you would in the original Fallouts or plenty of point and click adventure games. You get a little description and maybe some narrative information. Given that none of the Witcher games have been detective simulators, it's really strange to me that you'd suddenly have a problem with 3 not doing something that none of the other titles did either.
Elder scrolls had a long line to start a fanbase for the future. A good portion of people probably never heard of Witcher before 3. I only learned of the Witcher series because the 2nd one was on a flash sale on steam.
It's Skyrim with porn mods
Hi pastanigger.
>Or like some bitch wants to screen you for some jobs, and if you attack her henchmen or her (cause she's a cunt) it just mission-fails you and you have to start the scenario over, with a death screen that tells you how you fucked up
Are you talking about the crop bitch? Because in pretty sure they said you can fight her if you want, though since she's a corp with bodyguards they'll obviously be able to fuck you up easily since said mission is suppose to be pretty early in the game.
>Eh, easier.
Nothing is easier than Deus Ex.
We don't know that for sure yet.
It is possible though, highly possible even.
They showed 48 minutes of gameplay.
They did not show choice permutation.
They did not show any pacifist gameplay outside of a non-lethal takedown prompt.
The exploration aspect could be grotesquely exaggerated for all anyone knows.
I would like to believe it isn't a borderline railroad where you only have the illusion of choice as you go from A to B shooting bullet sponges and watching characters talk.
I would like to believe that it offers a unique gaming experience that incentivizes multiple playthroughs and rewards those who play intelligently and not just shooting everything that shoots at them.
It is asking for a lot, but at the same time it has been in development for ages and is made by the winners of GOTY 2015.
>no dark souls on the list
weebs BTFO
No this is more late-game. It's some white haired Ashe-From-Overwatch looking cunt.
Also once you hit mid-game you're invincible and nothing can hurt you once you augment. You pretty much auto aim, take a billion explosions, speed zoom on walls, blink, teleport, etc it's absolutely unfun.
God, that sounds fun.
OH NO NO NO NO
Are you talking about Cyberpunk here? Because they made it clear that the demo took place early in the game, they just showed off late game shit at a point in it, namely the smart gun and arm blades.
They never praised Rockstar’s business model shit. They praised the quality of Rockstar games and how that quality now has them considered one of the best in the industry. Will that take mass appeal? Yes. But it’s a single player game, I don’t see them dropping in some shitty battle royale mode and trying to rape people’s wallets.
Anyone else notice how threads created solely to shit on Cyberpunk 2077 have been ramping up in frequency the past week or so? Has there been some news from CDPR about the game and this triggered the autistic tibetan sand fox poster to shitpost more frequently?
>first-person
What's with the non-stop threads shitting on this game? Is it one autist who keeps making new ones every time the old ones dies?
that and how they're full of people flat out making up bullshit
CDPR dickriders get triggered easily, I don't blame the guy for making so many threads, he has access to easy (You)'s basically.
>Anyone else notice how threads created solely to shit on Cyberpunk 2077 have been ramping up in frequency the past week or so? Has there been some news from CDPR about the game and this triggered the autistic tibetan sand fox poster to shitpost more frequently?
Maybe cdpr tweeted something "offensive" again.
I said earlier I was an alpha tester (NDA can't do fuckall as I don't go by this name).
Maybe they'll rebalance the game or some shit but right now everything dies super fast, you almost never die unless you stand in lava (foundry) jump from a high place without fall damage / glide augments or stand in a room which auto turrets and mech's DPS you down for almost a full minute with auto repair disabled.
Maybe doing a no augment but forced story stuff fist only no armor run might be challenging.
Take your meds, user. You are seeing things again.
I leaked a fuck-ton of Fallout 76 stuff a long time back before any of it was announced and it 100% matched what the end product was so my sources are viable.
Too many timid beta virgins afraid to break NDA's and shit but if you just break NDA on a random literal-who name they can't fucking do shit. As long as you never post a screenshot (cause all big AAA company game screenshots are watermarked, even non alpha games.) you'll never get caught.
Anyone want to ask me anything bout this trash heap of a game before I go grocery shopping?
>I said earlier I was an alpha tester (NDA can't do fuckall as I don't go by this name).
no you weren’t
>a shitty FPS
I have such bad feels when it comes to this game. I rarely even post in the threads because I'm just full of disappointment.
CDPR hasn't had an alpha. Everything is internal so far. Nice try cancer, remove your trip because all you're using it for is attention and shitposting.
It's not the same thing you piece of shit.
did you play it on switch? my dad works at nintendo and he told me it's coming to switch.
>Shitty third person
Go back to your cinematic shooters Sony cancer.
It wasn't that bad tho, something happened in the last couple of days, before that shitposting was only about sun but now they are spreading some bullshit lies like here or here in every thread.
Dude just email every staff member begging to test their game. It's what I did. It's what most jewtubers do.
Believe me or don't. When game launches I'll be proven right again. (100% track record for all my leaks kiddo.)
You are correct, my fellow human packmate, I will do so.
You're right, It legitimately requires the player to actually look around rather than follow a big glowing arrow.
Sold
I'd imagine one of the last things they would be doing is polishing up the game and fixing bugs/balance user.
That's not how it works at all. And no, I won't believe you, nobody else should either. And unless they reach out to you, you probably won't know a quarter of the employee internal emails. Tik tok, try to come up with more believable bullshit, I'm losing my patience of calling out an autistic larper.
>get shiny metal legs
>can't even outrun a car
>get shiny metal arms
>can't even throw a car
What's the point?
Stop replying to the tripfag you fucking idiots,he is a known faggot who griefs and cheats in Yea Forums game servers
Skyrim is properly one of the most popular games among normalfags to this day due to how many mods there are available while Witcher only really became massive with 3. Its a unfair comparison.
isn't the guy who made this the closet homo who shitposts about deadfire having a overly faggy character but thinks trannies and sissies aren't gay and shills his mk9 fanfiction?
so far it looks very good. my opinion may change as more details are revealed.
but cyberpunk haters are, right now, a meme. this has every chance at being a truly great game.
why is this site full of cd projekt shills?
I was expecting an old school third person game not cinematic bullshit. Instead we got a shit tier cinematic shooter, which is even worse than cinematic third person games.
I sincerely hope you aren't implying it being isometric or third person would be better.
It's just like TW3 threads. The devs post here.
>People tell me Spider-Man PS4 is one of the most alive, living and breathing open worlds out there
>Its literally completely empty, the NPCs just walk around and occasionally play a voice line.
>Everything happens inside of missions, quite literally NOTHING happens in the open world.
>My face when Cyberpunk is shaping up the same way
Witcher 3 and GTA popularized the notion of dead open worlds and the industry suffers for it.
"THANK YOU BASED SUN"
Well atleast post an example of a good living open world
Third person would have given it the potential for unique gameplay and the aesthetic would have been boosted dramatically.
ITT
>Third person would have given it the potential for unique gameplay
wat
Oblivion
Gothic
Botw
The hubs of Witcher 1 and 2
Honestly anything that didn't follow in GTAs footsteps.
>cover shooting
>unique gameplay
Yeah, you don't notice at first since you'll likely be sticking to the buildings swinging around most of the time but as soon as you drop town its pretty empty feeling. All you can do is wave to random passer bys by hitting the attack button and occasionally someone will come up and want a high five or something, and then some fags will come out of nowhere and attack you if you stay their too long.
>witcher 3 and gta
GTA popularized that shit a long tíme before witcher 3 user.
isn't that self explanitory?
>The Witcher with each release
Improved it?
THANK YOU BASED SUN
Fuck off back to your cinematic third person shooters sonyfag.
>implying you don't just want third person so you can create the major and stare at her all the time
You aren't fooling me user.
There's literally nothing that can be done in 3rd person that can't also be done in 1st.
I get it. I've beta'd a ton of cell phone games where they just give you billions of resources and shit so you can reach end game super fast, but I believe this one is either meant for retards, purists who make a "least augments possible" run (good ending) or people like me that just meta-game and fully load up and become 100% part of the fucking borg and shit stomp everything.
Story spoiler:
Ever see that movie "Upgrade?" It's a very fucking similar bad ending.
I said it earlier 99.9% of every company is just [email protected]
You can google who the people are working on it, the community managers, the staff managers, etc. Just create an email dump and send 1 by 1 to everyone and wait for a response.
Here I cobbled two examples. Overwatch and PoE. Though this PoE example is to get monetization permission in alpha to make content before others were legally allowed. (This was perks for having a 300k sub channel.)
I never broke NDA for Overwatch so you can't report me to him cause I did nothing wrong. :^)
You can outrun everything later. No car throwing. Though there's a boss that throws cars at you in a junkyard.
Who said anything about cover shooters?
But I'm not talking about cinematic TPS games you autist.
Does this work for you?
Those are all empty, nothing ever happens worlds, too, though.
Seriously? Oblivion and botw? They are empty as fuck compared to other open worlds like Prototype,especially Oblivion just because how trash it is,Morrowind is better.
And I doubt an old eurojank from PiranthaBytes has a living open world,I played ELEX and they said it's like the Gothic series and if that's true then I have mixed feelings
I think there is a lot of ways to make an open world feel more alive. Mount and Blade for example- has done open world better than perhaps anyone. And Even Bethesda, as loath as it is to mention their names these days had a decent open world. Look at Oblivion for example. In the Leyawin area there are Black Bow Bandits that spawn. You can go and kill them at any time. NPCs will comment on them and the lord has a bounty on their head for the bows that you can turn in. Its a very plain, turn in quest but it adds flavor to the area by having a clear bandit clan, named, that everyone is aware of and is mentioned as a credible threat. Rather than simply living in a world where having more bandits than people is an assumed norm
The open world it self should be the focal point of any open world game. If everything is happening behind missions and in fully scripted locations. Why is your game open world? It does not benefit from it beyond slapping OPEN WORLD!!!!! on the box
>Never played them
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Oblivion and Gothic in particular have NPC schedules. Characters walk across the entire map and the game tracks them.
>Oblivion empty
>Prototype not
LEL
>It just looks like a futuristic shooter...
that's because the modern world became Cyberpunk and you didn't realize it
majority of the TPS become cover shooters
And? Schedules doesn't mean the world isn't empty and devoid of any interesting things happening. Are you dumb or something, that a game that has a guy go from point A to point B is so amazing to you?
1. Having melee combat.
2. Being able to see what your character is doing expands role playing.
3. Having a wider field of view of the world increases immersion.
One style of game that I really liked was old Ratchet and Clank's and Jak 2, with that third person view of sci-fi worlds. Where your character could drive flying bikes and interact with other characters or whatever. We've seen sci-fi shooters plenty of times before, it's tired.
Even if you looked only at the past decade(cover shooters barely existed before that) you would be wrong.
Kill yourself tripfag. Internal emails are more commonly first initial.last name. These emails vary wildly since so many poles have similar names and must use random letters to differentiate. And no fucking developer is going to let you play test an incomplete game not yet ready for alpha because you emailed them. Kill yourself
fucking this. Its should be an augment you have to install that evaluates enemy vulnerability
like nier automata
and you can see your enemies without looking over the cover, thats cheating, FPP is better
Wouldn't expect anything spectacular from the creators of the most overrated game ever
Go back to your cinematic third person shooters you cancer.
>watching newfags desperately try to fit in by hating on popular things, and being a contrarian
Epic thread that'll stick it to reddit.
Are you ever going to get tired of getting blown the fuck out every time you make this thread?
So its just become a meme to shit on this game?
Not one of your complaints seems to be based on anything besides how some things look.
>1. Having melee combat.
2. Being able to see what your character is doing expands role playing.
3. Having a wider field of view of the world increases immersion.
1. Exists in 1st person
2. No it doesn't. Not unless you're roleplaying a disembodied spirit of some kind.
3. 1st person is objectively the most immersive at cementing you within the world. Regardless, this has nothing to do with gameplay.
Poor effort.
>Zoomers mad as hell that Boomers remember a time when games were good.
>tfw live in a cyberpunk world but without any of the cool shit cyberpunk brings to the table
>Being able to see what your character is doing expands role playing.
No it doesn't.
>1 Having melee combat
First person doesn't do anything to stop this.
>2. Being able to see what your character is doing expands role playing.
>3. Having a wider field of view of the world increases immersion.
These are opinions. Many people feel much more immersed when seeing the world from a first person perspective.
>Like you have to go into a drug den or some shit filled with a fuckton of guards that will auto aggro you if you just start opening doors and shit, but you can ltierally cyborg outrun everyone, run into the boss room, kill the boss, then all the fuckhead henchmen just fuck off cause the boss is dead, and instead of having to go back the way you came in, you just casually exit the back door, to a bigboi in a car waiting for you to drive to the next objective.
you mean exactly like the demo?
shut up you dumb twat
It really depends on the company. The last 3 (retail) were first.last but the Blizzard ones like you said were firstinitial.lastname
Go for it. It's basically like getting a job. Instead of being like all the cucks applying online just go in and talk to whoever's the boss till they let you work.
I know you're mad. I used to be upset too that random basedboys got early access to cool games when I've been a gamer my entire life and should get access. So I fixed it. But man being the puppet of corporations and putting on a fake normie face only rends your soul so much that you have to make a new "true persona" self where you can say / do whatever the FUCK you want and FUCK the rules and FUCK everyone that tells you no.That's what this name is.
Anyway I just spoiled the bad end / gameplay for most of you cucks. I don't have any worthwhile coupons for non-processed groceries so I'm gonna sit at home and not eat today.
I see some people talking about melee combat. Guys, it auto-aims / locks on as you swing. No option to currently turn it off. Not an augment, just a gameplay feature. (It's like close range knifing someone in Call of Duty levels of auto aim, or Halo energy sword levels.)
1. Having melee combat.
But meele combat is better in 1st person if done right, dying light shits on every 3rd combat.
2. Yes there is nothing as immersive as playing flying drone behind character
3. Will result in cheating vision and cover shooter
I never watched the demo.
Okay, now I watched the demo.
That's a good chunk of the game. Doing similar shit to that except that was a good guy story mission. I haven't done good boy path yet.
Once again we have some shitstirrers on this boiling pot of piss for a board that feel the need to take a fat diarrhea dump on it because it doesn't exactly fit their vision for what the game looks like, feels like, have no real counterarguments, and defense strategies amount to nothing more than "ITS GONNA BE SHIT CAUSE I SAID SO"
despite never having played the game. This fucking place is full of contrarians that hate popular things that isnt generic japanese visual novel #451.
Just ignore and move on and wait for actual information from the people actually making the fucking thing instead of Joe McAnon who swears to god he knows what hes talking about with his big brain buzzword talk trust me guyz my uncle works at CDPR the game is shit.
First off
>1
You can have melee combat in FPP,many games did it already and the demo even shown of the MC using rippers
>3
How is getting to see things that are usually impossible an immersion enhancement? How is being able to see where the enemies are going while you are hiding behind an object an immersion enhancement?!
That's literally the opposite,you cant see shit over the object while you are under cover
These threads get worse and worse every day.
Now we have tripfags pretending to be ancap playtesters.
>Til they let you work
Patience gone. This is pathetic. I feel sorry for the retards that read your posts and try this. Last (You).
Where do you think you are?
>neo 80 retards still mad the game isn't perpetual night just like in muh blade runner
>1. Exists in 1st person
1st person melee combat is awful, it's only decent with dismemberment memes but those can exist in third person as well. 3rd person melee is better because it can look cool and hitboxes actually matter meaning increased difficulty, flash, and fun.
>2. No it doesn't. Not unless you're roleplaying a disembodied spirit of some kind.
Yes it objectively does. You can't see a damn thing your character is doing in 1st person games. eg. body gestures, idle animations, environmental actions.
>3. 1st person is objectively the most immersive at cementing you within the world. Regardless, this has nothing to do with gameplay.
It is not for the above reasons. Having a tiny field of view directly impacts gameplay as well. Humans have a huge field of view, FPS games do not. It's constricting and feels terrible.
It does too. A game like Fable or any MMO would be fucking dog shit in first person.
>First person doesn't do anything to stop this.
Not having animations is a big factor in stopping this. Compare Skyrim to Dark Souls, they're completely different strictly because Skyrim is first person. Even a good FPS action game like Dark Messiah is low tier compared to third person action games.
>These are opinions.
No shit. The reasons are autistic ones that don't make any logical sense. It's a brainlet view on games.
>It should be like Morrowind. If you kill some quest cuck the game is like "Welp, can't beat the game now bud." and lets you continue on.
This is always such a stupid fucking aspect of Morrowind to praise. Bethesda was too lazy to make an actual scene expressing the negativity of your actions like 99% of games would have had even back then and for some reason it gets praised. It causes effectively the exact same result and the same response from the player.
You said you could teleport in cp 2077.
There is no such ability in the game.
I dont see the point arguing which is better 1st or 3rd person when we could easily have both. Even gta does it these days
polaks are just incompetent
Is the sun not supposed to exist anymore in cyberpunk themes? Never been into cyberpunk stuff and only ever played 10 minutes of a Dues ex game at a buddies house years ago.
Epic
The reason they aren't giving both is probably because the melee combat is so bad it wouldn't work in third person. Or because the double jumping would look retarded.
I know you're a betacuck zoomer cause you're too timid to go talk to a fucking manage to get a job and instead list your application online and "wait" for a phone call that never happens cause I was too busy hiring jocks and Chads that were willing to ask in person to get a job, THEN ask them to do the online application, then have them sit in for an interview.
The timid virgins only got calls if no one was talking to us in person and they were always the worst hires.
Same goes for betas in games. You can either be a cuck and PAY for the beta through some shit program, use the "sign up for alpha" and fill out an essay and hope you hit the lottery, or EMAIL the fucking devs and ask them to send you a key cause of whatever shit you googled on them to make them feel empathy or likeliness or whatever. Blackhat social engineering 101 son.
I guess you don't want that beta that bad then if you aren't willing to put in the work for it.
>wants a hybrid mix just like Skyrim
Ur wrong lol
once again we have some fanboys on this boiling pot of piss for a board that feel the need to swallow a fat diarrhea dump from Nintendo because it says Nintendo on the box regardless of actual quality. They have no meaningful discussion beyond "HAHA UNREAL"
Despite never having played the game, this fucking place is full of drones that insist anything made by Nintendo is pure gold but of course any other title is just trash game #451
Just ignore and move on and wait for actual information from people actually making the thing instead of Joe Nincel who swears to god he knows what hes talking about with his big brain buzzword talk and trust my guyz my uncle works at Nintendo this game is shit
>A game like Fable or any MMO would be fucking dog shit in first person.
>Would
>implying they aren't already
The fact you seem to think fable is good to begin with speaks volumes to your shit taste.
Yes and no. The sun obviously still exists but corporation pollution has created a world where the sky is always darkened with heavy clouds and acid rain is a common event the world over.
tpp is immersion breaking
I am a neo 80 retard and i'm loving everything ive seen so far. Don't bunch us neo 80 retards together with the autists that shitpost here.
I love listening to synthwave and retrowave and think that the gamplay reveal and the trailers for cyberpunk 2077 were awesome.
Fable 1 was a fun game if you played it without hearing any of monleaux's lies
It's far better than Red Dead 2's cut to black and game over or that one Medieval game w/ no black people (There was totally black people back then in that era.) where if you go out of bounds it's like "Hurr you died to a stray arrow." It's such a bullshit way to control the flow of the game.
You literally stand on a pad and get "teleported" to another area in a puzzle fucking dungeon.
I think for some there's just so much smog and shit it never gets particularly bright and sunny out. Night city is in California iirc and is only called Night city after its owner Richard Night.
you haven't even played the game yet you stupid mong
the shitposting is really like 0/10 tier
low quality trash to scroll down through
DARK GOOD
SUN BAD
Fable was and always will be shit.
Cyberpunk is about a fucked up future, "high tech, low life" basically. That is the main theme. There is nothing about a lack of sunlight, its simply the easiest way to show a depressed, down trodden society. Night time, lots of rain.
Keeping it within the city limits too, because any wild area takes away from that "high tech" part. But that's not what Cyberpunk is, that is just the most common look for it.
Cyberpunk 2077 is not just a game set in a 'cyberpunk' theme, its literally pre set in an already established universe, pen and paper books. Its style is less just Bladerunner and more 80's punk, so it has the wastes, mad-max style punk rockers in buggies, the sun. Etc etc. People complaining about the sun are fucking faggots.
Too address this dipshit, Night City is a layered city with the top being bright, clean and expensive while the outskirts and the lower rungs of the city are going to be torn up, built over, dark and garbage.
I hate being a boomer its a fucking burdon, wish I could zoom along complaining about the sun like a retard too.
kek. have a (you). didnt expect that to get turned into a pasta.
B-but how will i know when an enemy is around the corner?!
Skyrim's always been criticised as a fairly weak combat experience. It'd be better to look at something like Dishonored, which is also more in line with Cyberpunks game style. First person allows for tighter positioning, faster pace, switching between items quicker, attacking while moving. The lack of animations is a liberating factor, 3rd person games require melee combat to slow down significantly because attacks have to be shown in more detail, with the exception of games that revolve entirely around the melee combat, but this game clearly isn't a hack and slash. Dark Souls whole game style is based on the player waiting finding the best spot to attack and punishing them if they're too aggressive, and the series has had it's fair share of very janky hitboxes.
>idle animations enhance roleplaying
Are you retarded?
Ok so you admit now there's no wizard style combat teleportation. You made something up.
So stupid you can't even make a decent argument. Fable is 8/10 and the reason for that is that you can interact with the environment, particularly the characters. It added a lot to the core gameplay. Old games used to have this sort of attention to details that let players really dig in. New games rarely do for whatever reason, shit sucks.
First person games though have never had mechanics like that because they're made to have basic gameplay. It's just a lazy cop out to make your game exclusively first person.
No.
>A game like Fable or any MMO would be fucking dog shit in first person
Okay but cyberpunk isn't fable or an MMO. The majority of combat is using firearms. Melee is likely high lethality, take downs, stealth attacks, quick switching between it and range. First person does that better, precisely because in third person they need an animation showing your character stopping, pulling something out, and going again. First person leaves that animation largely to the imagination of the player.
Stop replying to the LARPer. Nigger is so autistic he even made up a complete back story to his LARPing.
stop replying to him, jesus.
>teleport
Phrasing. You might as well be teleporting.
If they don't adjust the speeds of augments then speedrunners might as well be running through walls.
There's a dungeon where you load into a lobby, backtrack a few steps, jump on a crack on the wall and wall run up then jump off and grab a balcony to skip the ENTIRE dungeon and fight / barter / wagecuck the boss.
You can't go through walls but you do burst forward, like Tracer in Overwatch.
Yeah that's the word they used in the Fallout 76 leaks thread. Proved those cucks wrong, will prove you cucks wrong too.
Cyberpunk is more than just a setting; it is an attitude. Yes, the sun still may exist but we don't need to see it in a curated experience designed to draw upon what is a shared understanding that we have of a world that should be called "Cyberpunk".
CDproject just pulled a Ryan Johnson because they thought subverting expectations would make it seem fresh. It didn't. Keep the sun out of Cyberpunk. #nosun
I've always known roleplaying is best exemplified by what your character does when the player isn't inputting any actions. It's why movies are the greatest roleplaying games of all time.
>It's far better than Red Dead 2's cut to black and game over
It's not really, precisely because RD2 then lets me quickly reload and go again, which is exactly what anyone who got that message playing Morrowind would do. There no difference.
>you go out of bounds it's like "Hurr you died to a stray arrow."
Never played it but that's a totally different scenario and is a flaw that overly limits player action
Good thing is is Cyberpunk 2077, a part of the Cyberpunk 2020 franchise.
STOP REPLYING TO THE LARPING TRIPFAG
Sun doesn't subvert anyone's expectations, though. Unless your only experience with cyberpunk is Bladerunner. Then again, even that shows the sun.
I'm not arguing with that. My first post was saying
>a shitty FPS
I really just wanted more. Something new and unique.
I want hookers and blow, and I'm probably getting that so suck my dick ha!
Why would you want a third person view? Deus Ex games are fine in first person. I would say it’s more immersive.
Third person games bring more to the table.
Cyberpunk is based around cyborg thugs blowing each others brains out, what the fuck "new and unique" aspects were you expecting?
Every single AAA game in the past 8 years has been bad. Why are some on Yea Forums obsessed with making sure everyone knows they think this one will be bad?
And you are able to judge a whole game from that gameplay alone?
Absolutely b a s e d.
It's an action game where you can get augments to do random shit from other games, but once you get them you become a god and there's no sense of danger anymore.
Apparently if you want to go no augment route you can do drugs that give you similar powers / bonuses. I never once interacted with a shopkeeper outside of mandatory story shit.
So, not like your webm, then?
Why do shills like you think you will make a difference in sales? There are just 70 IPs in this thread if you assume there's also as much lurkers you get little bit more than one hundred people that actually read your shitposts. So even if you did convinced some of those people over period of few months of constant shilling. You still made no dent in actually sales that are in millions. Especially that a lot of people here just pirates the games.
Tortanic RUINED this board. Ruined beyond belief. Now we have waves and waves of newfag redditors and their gangrene ridden children trying to get the next Tortanic. Problem is, they're never satisfied. Fallout 76 failed? Need more.
Guys I played the alpha and at one point it literally forced me to watch as my romance partner was railed by a large black man.
Don't buy this game it'll cuck you.
Roleplaying now:
>My character is a blank slate and I play pretend with his background
>I picked this perk that makes my bullets do 20% more damage. Thats how I know my guy is a crack shot!!
Roleplaying back then:
>My characters back ground is established at the character creation page, I have multiple options to choose from and they all impact my stats and I may even get dialogue options and paths opened to me based on what my character has done.
>My character is good with guns because I built his stats and talents from the ground up for it. but as a result, he'll never excel with melee weapons and isn't particularly physically strong. I might even lose pathing options because of this
Sex is never shown, only implied.
>You pretty much auto aim, take a billion explosions, speed zoom on walls, blink, teleport,
Sounds awesome if you set your difficulty slider on hard.
Cry. Harder. Bitch.
STOP LISTENING TO THE LARPING TRIPFAG. HE'S MAKING UP COMPLETE BULLSHIT.
Something inspired by Max Payne with kung-fu mod and Path of Neo(combat), Jak 2(flying vehicles), TES(in that you can switch perspectives), Nier:A(platforming). I was expecting something that wasn't a generic FPS and it looks like we're getting a generic FPS with damage sponges.
That webm is of a unique combat system.
>I wish the game was my own personal wank fest and I was expecting this 100%
Gee nigger, don't we all?
I just loaded out as many repair nano's as I could fit and I can stand in lava / afk rocket turrets forever.
Granted I'm max level but there is nothing that does a higher DPS than foundry lava / rocket turrets.
Broken build. I can still 1-2 shot everything with mediocre gear.
Okay, starter gun took 12 shots to kill random henchman.
Police don't count as a legit encounter cause they just taze / emp / whatever you and then you get game over'd. You only get a good 15 seconds to school shooter randoms in the street before the game forces you to start over. Nofunallowed.jpg
>wants a unique combat system
>it should be like what all these other games have done
There's nothing unique about the Jedi games.
So something extremely slow, gimmicky, and relying on aspects that heavily clash with RPG qualities? Why the fuck would you expect that from a Cyberpunk game?
Why are you so mad?
I'm eating a sandwich, so please stop your classic case of projecting.
I wanted ninja gaiden combat in this game and these fps fags shit on it, so fuck then. They can have fun with their shitty ass generic shooter that plays like a dumbed down cod lol
Thread tl;dr
Not a single argument beyond typical Yea Forums's bullshit
Muh roleplaying
Fagots hating on cdpr for no reason
>something INSPIRED by
Can you not read? And as far as I know, the JK games are totally unique.
Those games are fast and nothing clashes with RPG qualities. If anything shooter gameplay would because it's just incredibly unrealistic eating hundreds of bullets. But it doesn't.
>Fagots hating on cdpr for no reason
They sold out.
>"least augments possible" run (good ending)
>It's unrealistic eating bullets in first person
>In third person it's alright though!
>Also taking random elements from 50 other games is perfectly fine! They'll all work together, you'll see
Have you tried turning your life off and on yet?
But this isnt a AAA game.
Its at the very least a AA game.
Remember they usually made eurojanks (TW1 and 2) TW3 was their first high budget AA game and Cyberpunk 2077 wont be any different in budget
do u base it on sjw jokes in witcher 3?
>It's unrealistic eating bullets in first person
>In third person it's alright though!
You are illiterate.
I doubt they can detect who I am since I've scrambled the image enough.
You said you wanted something new and unique. Now you're saying you just want them to recycle shit from your preferred games.
>If anything shooter gameplay would because it's just incredibly unrealistic eating hundreds of bullets
It is AAA you fucking moron. TW2 was AAA as well.
just the usual trannies raging. been like that since they found out there was no gender slider.
No I base it on lying and selling out.
>Those games are fast
They literally are both entirely based around a gimmick that slows the game down, and thats when 50% of the game is played. The levels of those games revolve around giving the player airtime to do their slow mo gimmick while going from cover to cover so you can wait and do the gimmick again. Said slow mo is based heavily around high lethality, which doesn't allow for the traits of enemies to vary, just their weapons and armor, where as cyberpunk is based on the player facing enemies who can tank firepower or threaten you via cybernetics, which allows more technically inclined players to make use of alternate solutions and their skills to go around said enemies if there character can't win a direct fight. Which is largely what's been implied to be the case.
Elaborate
I didn't say that. Even if they did copy paste systems from another game though it would be unique because of the rest of the game being an RPG. Either way you're a fucking retard.
>but it doesn't
Why would they be able to detect it anyway retard.
>like Morrowind. If you kill some quest cuck the game is like "Welp, can't beat the game now bud." and lets you continue on.
Except, of course, you actually CAN complete the game. The main quest just takes a different direction from there and you actually have to more or less figure out how to proceed entirely on your own.
so sjw jokes in witcher 3, ok btw they were just the joke, if you took it seriously you are retarded
>TW2 is not eurojank
t. Doesnt even know what eurojank means
>I didn't say that
Yes you did.
>I really just wanted more. Something new and unique.
>He admits to not knowing what eurojank is
Okay you have to quote someone when using t. to represent them
OLD GOOD
NEW BAD
I KNOW ALL ABOUT THE GAME EVEN THOUGH WE'VE ONLY BEEN SHOWN 40 MINUTES OF GAMEPLAY
ZOOMERS BTFO
gdzie to odpalas?
>Now you're saying you just want them to recycle shit from your preferred games.
I didn't say this you dumb nigger.
All I had to do was play Witcher 3 to know these guys have no grasp of what an RPG is. They are very much the new Bethesda.
How fucking new are you? They lied about downgrading the game, they lied about what was in the game, and they lied about mod tools. They sold out completely by shitting on their core fanbase.
Anti sun fags in the back
Yes, you did. You literally listed like half a dozen games and said they should do something like that.
You must be new. Game devs put in an identifier that screenshots can point out your account. Blizzard can track your account down just with an in-game screenshot using some bullshit detection stuff. I dunno google it.
IRL printers have a similar signature cops can use to see where a page printed from. Or what printer, or something.
Alpha and beta games have small watermarks to identify the owner so they don't break NDA.
Hell even PORN VIDEOS that are subscription based have this secret watermarking to sue people that re-upload their shit to paid sites.
>They literally are both entirely based around a gimmick that slows the game down
Yeah because they're fast. None of the games I mentioned have cover systems either. You're really derailing what I said, what for? I'm not even saying CP2077 is going to be a shitty shooter, only that shooters themselves are shitty because they're so plain.
You are illiterate and you're trying to put words into my mouth.
That retarded Tripfag just posted a tiny ass screenshot from the 50 minute walkthrough they showed. Stop taking anything he says seriously.
>they lied about what was in the game
like?
Fucking ignore him, it's screenshot from gameplay demo.
It's not old vs new, it's tabletop style actual roleplay in a videogame vs not a fuckin mess
FF was restricted like that decades ago and we recently got a few classic rpgs from obsidian and stuff
>Posting the actual screenshot
Good lad.
Go home, Bioware, you're drunk!
Nope. You literally listed a bunch of games, even pointing out which specific features you think they should have lifted from them.
thank you, someone with standards. The fuck am I going to do with an rpg if I spend character creation time only to see jack shit of them while I play. Fuck first person fags
Dynamic systems, characters, content, etc
youtube.com
>They lied about downgrading the game, they lied about what was in the game, and they lied about mod tools
Please provide actual info, I'm willing to change my mind but I don't think anything you just said is true
Also I am cdpr fan since w1 I don't get what the problem is
No I didn't. Not even close. Look at the fenders. Quest text top right. Etc.
Are you a corporate shill buttmad I'm spoiling the game?
bizarre post, CP2077 fits the bottom more than the top
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>Also I am cdpr fan since w1 I don't get what the problem is
How are you a fan if you weren't keeping up to date with TW3 hype?
You didn't answer the question
so basically they ran out of time and couldnt implement all the stuff, i know about the iorveth thing, its not selling out, its just not having enough time, before witcher 3 they still were an AA studio that somehow made a AAA game
They're fast until you start playing the game because then they slow down. They're not fast games at all, particularly compared to most FPS. DOOM is a fast paced game, Max Payne isn't and never has been. They don't have cover systems, never said they did, but hiding in cover is very much part of the game. You're crapping on FPS while espousing a pair of the most generic third person shooters carried solely by a gimmick.
Thank you based sun
They straight up lied about what was in the game. They then delayed the game strictly to downgrade the visuals. Watch the video if you actually care, otherwise you're just baselessly defending them. TW2 is a AAA game with a powerful engine behind it.
>Hey guys, see these two completely different outfits? DOWNGRADED
(You)
>keeping up to date with TW3 hype
Most people stop paying attention to hype once they're out of high school. It allows them to judge a game on more objective merits.
Whatever you want to call them, they're not slow. You don't have to hide either. I'm crapping on FPS games because they're lazy. CP also has slow motion gimmicks so apparently it's not fast either.
>steam stats
Someone forgot about gog version.
What is this picture supposed to be showing me? Both look good.
>Calls FPS games lazy
>Is advocating for the laziest games of all time, camera behind head
YOU CANNOT MAKE THIS SHIT UP.
48 minutes is kind of a lot lmfao
>ignoring the massive differences in rendering
TW3 news then. You weren't a fan if you aren't aware of what was cut and downgraded.
This and Underrail DLC are the only two things I'm excited for game wise.
Objectively it's less lazy to put a camera behind a character that you have to animate than to put the camera floating in the air attached to a gun.
48 minutes is three times as long as you need to judge those things lol
Single player FPS games are far less common than single player 3rd person games. Ergo, CDPR is walking a road less travelled. You should be proud of their decision to buck the cinematic 3rd person shooter trend.
so this is what cyberpunk looks like... woah...
>Trying to sound smart by citing a logical fallacy without knowing what it actually means
Take a seat please
Right one looks a bit washed out and blurry, but otherwise I'm not seeing much of a problem here.
>Having to correctly mode, animate, and design a world for first person accuracy
vs
>Eh just put the camera behind the head, nothing else matters, I guess make it a cover shooter and put a reticule on screen and call it a day
Third person shooters are the laziest cash grabs in existence. That's why every Sony game is a generic, third person shooter. And here you are, advocating for them. THE ABSOLUTE FUCKING IRONY
You are an idiot. It's obvious that I don't want a cinematic 3rd person shooter or a FPS game.
Bottom faces are objectively better.
it's time
Goddamn look at that fur around Ciri's neck, that's some high quality rendered fur.
true, they made yen 100% times more beautiful
What was on it?
Stop being a shill.
Nah Yennifer looks way hotter in the top pic.
Basically what the other guy said
>>Having to correctly mode, animate, and design a world for first person accuracy
You have to do this in third person games. Work wise it's far easier to make FPS than TPS. I don't know why you keep seething about Sony games, did they fuck your mother?
Work wise it's far easier to make TPS than FPS.
Mods will fix it just like with Skyrim and Fallout.
Illogical claim. Stop shitposting like a faggot.
>Get in your on rails car
>It drives 10 feet
>Cutscene plays
>You arrive at place
>Cutscene plays
>You do dialogue
>MORAL CHOICE TIME DO YOU WANT TO FIGHT THE RED GUYS OR BLUE GUYS
>fight
>Cutscene plays
>SHOOT THE RED SPOT TO KILL THE ROBOT
>Use your wall hack vision and bullets that literally shoot around corners.
>Cutscene plays
>Mission end
>Get back in your on-rails car
>10/10 IGN
I'll update this when we find out what kind of monetization will be in the game to fuck over the player
Nice contrarian shitposting kid. FPS requires infinitely more effort than TPS.
>Nah Yennifer looks way hotter in the top pic.
she looks fucking ugly, she looks like jennifer lawrence
Geralt looking like fat Riker on the right.
DELETE THIS RIGHT NOW NO NO NO NO AAGGGGHHHHHHHHHH
>Nah Yennifer looks way hotter in the top pic.
I guess if you like men.
All the witcher girls look like slags. Not sure why they chose to do that.
Hmmm. That's a bit too similar for my liking.
>They do have that sticky at /pol/ so you can avoid this sort of shit, you know?
I think most of them took it as suggestions
this. The hype was slowly fading away ever since that teaser from 2012. The E3 trailer was a massive disappointment and the gameplay killed any hope I had for the game.
post a CP2077 clip now
You are awere that stuff changes and gets cut all the time during game development, right?
You do have a point that they should not show something that they were going to change or make the presentation look better that the game was actually going to look as that's false advertising and should be penalized but this is not a new practice or anything, any adult person should know better to trust the commercials.
Companies are not your friends, they want to sell a product, not make your dreams come true, it may be harsh but that's how the world is
Witcher 3 fags, if you didn't like it so much because of some graphic differences and since then you hate cdpr why do you even care for cyberpunk 2077 and how it will looks like?
After 4 years does it still hurts you that w3 won eurovision awards over bloodborne and fo4?
You can say what you want, but TW3 WAS by far most beautiful game(OW RPG) of 2015.
They forced whole industry to up their game graphics wise.
I kinda blame them that they fell into nVidia Gamewerks trap but they were probably kinda naive
and they said that game as it was wouldn't be possible if they didnt take Xbone & PS4 into account.
Now, would game be better if it was centered only for GOG and PC(maybe it wouldn't be open world, maybe it would be more like Baldur's Gate+Dark Souls+some new Slav stuff) we will never know.
this tbqh
can't beleive that people are excited for yet another dumbed down Deus Ex with batman vision and a fucking radial dial for inventory selection. Please die CDPRetards
>every time they showed an interesting mechanic the speaker said "remember this is EARLY ALPHA" thus confirming these cool ideas would be cut from the game.
Benji is a known tripfag that likes to grief Yea Forums minecraft servers and is a pathological shitposter,stop replying.
Third person is console shit. Every rpg with good gameplay is first person or isometric.
Literally different SweetFX setup
Imagine defending a downgrade.
TW2 looks better than TW3 does because it wasn't downgraded.
The only benefit to 3person in an rpg is to see how your character looks, and you can do that in a menu if it's done right
There will be photo mode for those fags
100% buying this masterpiece
can't fucking wait
I wish they would add a 3rd person vanity camera but I don't know why anyone would actually want to play the game in 3rd person. It just doesn't feel good.
So is the future really compromised of soulless haircuts and fashion?
Wouldn't it be cool if they made a good third person RPG? That's what most of us were looking forward to.
All first person games feel almost exactly the same. Third person games feel different because of the various styles of animation. What the fuck are you talking about?
nigga that's the present as well.
>likes to grief Yea Forums minecraft servers
>That's what most of us were looking forward to.
You mean bunch of faggots with "motion sickness?" closed in some small forum?
You have to understand difference between playing the game and watching the game.
These are just SweetFX ver1 & ver2.
Remember when you make your Skyrim photo realistic with ENB but you turned it off so you could actually play the game.
It's good for a while and for taking pictures but at some point it ruins actual gameplay.
And removing 2-3 3d models so you gain 10-20 fps is called OPTIMIZATION.
It's not as if Witcher3 cant put into work your new RTX2080Ti so basically, IDK what are you on about?!
Every fucking day you post a thread trying to shit on Cyberpunk 2077. Just let it go OP.
unfortunately, this is USA today
Who cares about the animations. The benefit of a 3rd person camera is that it allows for tactical gameplay usually involving rolling or ducking behind cover that you can't do in first person to well. That being said, being zoned out 15 feet behind your characters head feels generally worse overall, and makes it hard to appreciate the detail of the game because you can't get closer than 15 feet from any object. I hate it. I do think something like Gears of War has benefited from the over the shoulder camera greatly, but if you're not going to make your game feel tactical like Gears of War then in my opinion it should just be in 1st person for a more immersive experience.
Double digit IQ poster defending a corporation who lied.
Where's his dick
white males have been banned to mate so their dicks got cut off
>IQ meme
>doesn't understand how why downgrades are a thing
Poor little thing
You've got to be an American
Honestly I'm just amazed that you autists think that the only kind of third person game is a cover shooter. And now you're saying anyone would want a camera 15 feet behind the character?
How is it hard to appreciate detail in third person games? You see the exact same world whether it's 3rd or 1st person, the latter just sees less at once until you switch to a first person view(which you can do in most third person games) if you wanted to zoom in on some shitty texture.
Third person games are way better graphically because you can view entire vistas unlike FPS.
Cybeprunk 2077 threads have everything, Tortanic fags, bloodborne fags absolutely ass ravaged about Witcher 3 winning GOTY over it, children that think Cyberpunk as a genre can only be neon futurewave. People that are so pathetic FPS games make them instantly ill and they cry about this.
WHEN THE FUCK DO YOU FAGGOTS FUCK OFF FOR LIFE DO I HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL THE GAME IS FIVE YEARS OLD FOR YOU PEOPLE TO KILL YOURSELVES?
In your mouth lmao
fuck,top pic looks like witcher 2
...shame
Game might be moddable to some extent but unless they make a modding tool it won't be so easy. I really hope they do, but I'm not sure they have any intention of doing so. They do own their engine though so they can do so easier than KCD.
>>doesn't understand how why downgrades are a thing
They got paid off to downgrade the PC version and they lied about it.
It will be there one way or another
Thank you for the feedback. Legal will be contacting you shortly, Mr. Davis.
>You've got to be an American
I know right? Latinos are the worst
Oh? Did they get paid to put in bugs as well?
>There's no atmosphere.
False
>There's no beauty.
Subjective. And depending on how you view cyberpunk, a lack of beauty might be intentional
>There's no themes.
You saw a 15 minute demo. Expecting themes from a demo is retarded
>There's no stealth.
Fake news
>There's no immersion.
Subjective
>It's just a cheap
Fake News
>shooty tooty game with big explosions.
So was Deus Ex.
By beauty they probably mean the graphics are shit which is true. I didn't get any whiffs of atmosphere either though.
Why does every game need to be an FPS/TPS? Honestly when I saw the original trailer I thought it would play like an action FF game with acrobatics and cover to avoid people with giant claw arms. Instead we get a boring FPS schlock in Cyber San Francisco with absolutely cancerous personalities acting as major characters. Honestly a huge disappointment, and I can already picture how sh$t the combat will be.
>polaks think off a dystopian cyberpunk future
>full of degeneracy, violence and corporate jewing
>americans don't get it
>turns out CDRed created game about america
You're pretty good....
You know, you are right, I honestly dont give a fuck.
I really dont care enough to try to change your mind. You are either an troll,an kid or some fucked up marketing influencer or some shit..
Who the fuck keeps pictures of game that he hates on his PC for over 4 years?
It's either some developer jealousy or some level of retardation I never encountered before.
I said it once in this thread and I'll say it again
>Go home Bethesda&Bioware, you are drunk, sleep it off!
If those graphics are shit I'm scared to think what Bethesda games seem to you
I'm sad too
>First trailer is all about people shooting guns at a woman with metal claws
>"HUUUUR WHY THEY MAKE IT SHOOTER!?"
Did you actually watch footage of the playable demo? Wallrunning and claw attacks are in fact in the game too.
For a futurisic metropolis, this world constructed in this game looks more like a themepark than a real world. Where are the farms? where are the water processing plants? What are they eating? What are their religions? If it was a real world it would have all 3. but since this is a themepark there is no food or water or religion. Without the building blocks of civilization the entire world comes across as rather toothless and hyperreal, like going to Disneyworld or something.
But you can't see anything because it's a FPS.
Are you blind in real life because your eyes are in your skull and not floating three feet behind your head?
>its the autistic shitposters are a tiny but vocal minority Thread
Too bad you wont kill yourself when the game sells millions of copies on release and is praised.
You are probably going to Post webms of Bugs for months killings Every discussion for the game
Fuck, I hit too close to bone, didn't I?
Dont harm yourself, it's just a game.
Enjoy life, dont do it.
Yes, it is literally set in west coast United States you fucking idiot.
In real life our eyes see like ten times more than video game first person characters do.
>Vocal minority
That's putting it nicely. There's literally three autistic shitposters going mental in this thread. 410 posts, 91 IPs.
>He thinks user was talking about the physical setting
Why are Americans so stupid?
>This damage control
>I can't be retarded if I call the other guy retarded first!
What did he mean by this?
They are cashing in on the success of immersive simulation type games like Deus Ex and Dishonored.
The reason why it looks so bad is because the have no talent like Warren Specter working on the project. Rather, they're a big budget studio trying to retro engineer his formula like an alien trying to understand how humanity works.
>no beauty
eye of the beholder u fuking tool
>A dystopian setting in the United States
>Surprised it's like the United States
>immersive simulation
>Dishonored
And he thinks anyone should take his opinion seriously.
>Immersive simulation
OH FUCKING GREAT NOW WE HAVE THESE RETARDS
I didn't invent the neologisms alright, i just call it what the critics call it.
No one said they were surprised though. Only that Americans didn't understand it.
The population of Cyberpunk 2077 threads
>LARPing Tripfags
>Immersive sim hipsters
>REEE SUNfags
>CYBERPUNK IS NEON FUTUREWAVE fags
>Tortanicfags
>Bloodborne is the real GOTY fuck witcher 3 they lied downgrade! fags
>Retarded Euros
Who else am I missing?
Left looks better. Right is blurry garbage.
You, a faggot.
Okay
>(You) a faggot
There, the list is completed.
>He unironically thinks the blurry mess on the right looks better
user, you might just need glasses.
>shooter
yeah this is what I don't like about it, sure the world detail/characters/upgrades etc are that isn't what makes an rpg, it's the game systems and it just looks like they've stripped it out in favour of action shootan for zoomers
Imagine being so irrationally angry that you have to put labels on everything you don't like so you can marginalize them
>Seething
>marginalize
go back to the tranny discord
user must have struck a nerve. One of those labels hit a little too close to home?
>he can only see blur and not the lighting
List of things that were removed/downgraded:
The modkit
Subsurface scattering
Forward lit soft particles
Semi volumetric clouds
Bokeh depth of field
Seems like a lot of the PBR they bragged about
Combat camera shake
Convincing and gratuitous pools of blood that 'realistically' floated on water
Subtle lens flares
The advanced sign particle effects
Tessellated ground
Anamorphic lens flares
Flexible water simulation
Geralt's face was severely downgraded
In-game scenes like the Wild Hunt attacking the town and the introduction to the emperor of Niilfgard were changed to worse effect
Aerial perspective fog
Sign particle intensity was lowered
Many textures in Novigrad were downgraded
Volume based translucency
Many environment models in Novigrad
Interior lighting looks horrendous now
The bloom shader sucks, you can see how it was before in the wild hunt segment
Screen space reflections
The way drowners look was good and is really bad now
And more~. A lot of these terms were taken from CDPR themselves.
>Bokeh depth of field
Stopped right there. Opinion dismissed.
cope
Day 1 perma night and neo enb will literally make the game what the first trailer looked like.
>Coping
>"If I post cope then I will make it look like THEY are coping!"
>Actually just makes the coping more obvious.
guess you prefer the worse kind
>hur dur its not cyberpunk if the earth still rotates
>all these coping gymnastics flying around in your head
>Still coping.
>RPG
>Has guns
>HURRR HAS TO BE A GAMEPLAY RESTRICTIVE FPS GAME
Yikes, Western vidya is made by such talentless visionless idiots
How did resetera let this one slip?
There's an old saying that goes, if you try to please everyone you please no one.
You may disagree but pure shooters are only satisfying to play because the gunplay is really tight. Once you start throwing in damage variables and RPG mechanics the shooter quality suffers across the board. Please understand why shooterfags hate this game and why RPG purists hate this game as well.
rester is responsible for 95% of shitposting on this game
>Western vidya
cringe and oofpilled
>Please understand why shooterfags hate this game and why RPG purists hate this game as well.
But they don't, it's a bunch of trolls spouting buzzwords ever since the gameplay was shown
>There's no atmosphere. There's no beauty. There's no themes. There's no stealth. There's no immersion. It's just a cheap shooty tooty game with big explosions. The world looks so empty despite them trying to make it look interesting. The game is just a plain and boring looking action game.
That is entirely your subjective read on it because I could say it has all those things without providing any evidence (same as you) and be equally valid
Poland is participating in western culture for 1000 years. "east" is the term used since 1945 for the geographical purposes of WW2
maybe they're right, ever stop to consider that?
>Wants western trash generic third person shooter
>Poland
No such thing.
I prefer the pic on the left actually
>Third person shooters are the laziest cash grabs in existence. That's why every Sony game is a generic, third person shooter. And here you are, advocating for them. THE ABSOLUTE FUCKING IRONY
I can tell your stupid ass never tried making a third person game in unreal engine
Go back to making your shitty LoZ stolen assets videos, you triple spacing hack.
>i cant see my characters ass first person sucks!
kill yourselves
It's a waste honestly, V has a nice ass
You're the only reasonable poster wanting TPP.
Fuck off Evafag, who is this patronising off-topic drivel aimed at? Roleplaying games with guns don't have to be Shooters and Shooters don't have to be FPS/Over The Shoulder, Max Payne DinoCrisis 2 Ratchet and Clank FF Type-0 Parasite Eve and MGS1-2 are some obvious examples, and plenty of ARPGs function perfectly fine with guns, it's that modern Western vidya beaches itself on the shores of a gametype inherently restrictive to movement combat and combat/boss design just because "Hnnnguh it has gun"
P.S. Gainax are hacks and a "realistic" Shinji would've gotten into the robot and risked his life for Asuka, ask any 14 year old boy with an AK47 in Syria
At least they have photo mode. Gonna find the skimpiest dress in the game and put it on.
Of course he hasn't.
Suck my fucking cock you stupid ass worthless sack of fucking dog shit. You aren't fit to carry my water or lick my fucking taint after I took a shit, you fucking cock sucking cum swilling faggot fuck.
This is such an autistic thing to say. So you only play first person games and hate seeing the character you're playing as?
Is Japanese spoken in Night City? How people read those signs.
It's korean??????????
The game isn't even out yet
Judge it when it comes out
No it isn't you fucking retard lmao ??????????????????????????????? delete a few of those
all rook same!!!!!!!
well yes seeing my character is distracting the only games i play where i can see my character is online mobas
Those characters already look mad interesting just in that pic alone. You're fucking retarded.
Just cause is trash tier jank game, every game in the series is fucking terrible and aids ridden.
I love it when cyberpunk has no actual asians who can read the damn signs in the settings lol
Altered Carbon didn't have this issue.
is a*
mobas are shit due to the top down camera, you literally cant see any details so the character models and textures are wasted
tripfag larper btfo
Oh great, now this piece of pig shit is here too.
Not him, I can play both and I am not autistic enough to cry about game being 1 or 3 person and demanding change. Never before I saw crying about some game that is 3rd person but for some reason 3rd fags can't fucking handle 1st person game.
Altered Carbon was also terrible compared to the book. And had an MC that relied on women to do 90% of the fighting for him.
Your misunderstanding and somewhat delusional grasp of the FPS genre is noted.
wow its this autist again
boards.fireden.net
Everyone has translators installed in their vision gadgets.
>he plays mobas
Yikes.
It's because it was advertised as third person.
I WILL BREAK YOUR FUCKING NECK AND PISS AND SHIT DOWN THE HOLE I CREATE YOU GODDAMNED CUNT
>There's no themes
We've seen maybe an hour of gameplay, and you're trying to talk about themes? Cyberpunk as a genre tends to run the gamut from corporate and governmental corruption to the dehumanizing (and human ascending) elements of technology, things we've barely gotten a taste of in the gameplay shown. You can't say "it has no themes" when we've hardly been shown anything regarding the narrative.
It wasn't
>It's because it was advertised as third person.
It literally wasn't.
Mobas are goddamned trash, the camera is shit in those, it makes everything look like fucking ants and makes it so you can't have complex gameplay like in japanese action games
I hope you can crawl around the skyline with your mantis blades. That'd be cool as hell.
He's shitposting, you shouldn't respond to it seriously. Literally the first ten minutes of the game we see techno gangsters attacking you in a slums type apartment building high up in the sky as you're trying to save a girl from her organs being harvested. There are fifty themes in that short description alone.
YES IT FUCKING WAS YOU GODDAMNED PISS SWISHING FAGGOT FUCK
the themes and parables of cyberpunk are so well tread do we really even need to know what the plot is when we already collectively in the zeitgeist already know all of the story beats down to the very minutia?
'you haven't played it' isn't a very convincing argument anymore.
Agreed. I don't get the hype for this game. I saw the gameplay footage and it just looks like another bland AAA shooter
Nice try shill. "Just buy the game when it comes out" How about FUCK YOU
Name me five other shooters that look like Cyberpunk 2077.
It's because cdpr made it, so these cocksuckers have to love it. If it had the Bioware logo on it instead they'd shit talk the game nonstop.
deus ex human revolution, mankind divided, dishonored, prey, etc
they all look like the same fucking garbage, you get to play as a floating gun wow
Artistically more polished, graphically more primitive.
don't think too much you little bitch just enjoy the neo-80's synthwavepunk
Still waiting on you to name games that look like Cyberpunk 2077.
The only obvious thing here is your love for cock.
I just did you stupid fucking bitch
They said it was a dual system and didn't specify it was FPS. Seeing how they've only made TPS games everyone assumed.
So yes, they did. This was terrible marketing.
You gotta hand it to CDPR, they sure do know how to run an astroturfing campaign. These useful idiots actually think they care about them.
What you're describing sounds great to me.
Maybe you just don't like good games?
Keep gargling CDPR's slavic nuts you fucking mary
Still waiting on you to take the dicks out of your mouth and name games that look like Cyberpunk 2077.
>Artistically more polished
The demo was literally set in a meat production facility. They don’t grow livestock anymore, just muscle cell culture.
>Astroturfing
>511 posts
>116 IPs
>Majority of the posts are strawmen screaming REEEEEEEEEEEEEE THE SUN
>That one faggot that spams Witcher 3 screenshots in every thread
>That one faggot that calls the game shit because it's not their shitty netflix special
I wonder, who the fuck are behind these posts? I legitimately wonder. Who is paying these people?
If every shooter released today was an immersive sim/rpg I'd feel a lot better about the industry.
Who is paying you, shillboy?
beyond stupid. The amount of energy it would take to produce a pound of meat versus just growing the animal instead is astronomically larger.
Get the fuck over it. There was a change in development years in advance and they demonstrated the change for you. Are you going to autistically screech time immemorial?
Calm down spergy I was only correcting you.
See you in the next thread friend