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Pass is vee.
Stream's content makes it easy for us to predict what the next 8 other streams will be about. They went off and explained Hyde and Linne's EXS powers in detail so we'll get the other characters' abilities explained. They also talked about BBtag and also their EVO inclusion which surprised the entire office. They thought games like Tekken and SoulCal were Mainstage material and they definitely didn't expect the western fanbase to be this receptive.
Brain picked up Orie?
Looks like it, neat.
Thinking about it. Mainly spent that round pressing normals and getting a feel for her bwfore I go too deep.
As I always say, Orie 4-2 mission mode.
Have any of you guys played against a Vatista player named KillerKitty19 before? I Joined one of the public lobbies and got bodied by them so I figure one of you must've run into them before.
combos don't really mean much if you can't believe in the hit.
is Orie good for a beginner?
Nope.
Yeah she's easier to get the hang of.
Strats for Enkidu going in on Hilda, Phonon, and Vat?
I'm gonna buy this tomorrow
Who's the most like Faust from Guilty Gear
Pray
>Hilda
Pray to god you call out the fireball and roll under it. If she TKs the fireball, RIP. Play patient as shit
>Phonon
Invalidate her fireballs with your myriad of projectile invuln moves but then cry because she outranges you physically too.
>Vat
If she uses crystals, RIP
If she doesn't, you might have a chance.
Nobodies got them random items but you can fish for hits with Phonon, Merkava, and Gord I guess.
Is Linne actually Akatsuki in disguise?
I should really relearn some of those Gord confirms.
She's scarier
I have no idea how higachu landed those throw combos with 66C midscreen
The way of the fist is a hard one. D-Do at least still have a chance against Merk, Gord and Yuzu
Merk and Gord without a doubt.
Yuzuriha has long range physical attacks and teleports, go deduce the information from what I said about Hilda and Phonon
Merk has big fat hitboxes, has air movement and can drop helpers to let you pressure on the corner.
Keep praying
I just realized, atic is red again.
Who killed you?
kw: pclobby
This uphill struggle actually feels more motivating than disheartening desu.
Hey, if I can pull it off, you should be able to do it too. You just have to make every hit count and know your opponent.
Feels so odd playing a character that can move more than 1 step at a time. Its a good feeling, maybe ill play this some more.
joining
redblade again. Maybe that's why they call him redblade
I fought him earlier on his stream.
Took a couple matches off of him.
Hey Atic, what's the follow-up for Orie's far 5bs? Only Thanatos? Noticed the stuff I practiced relies up close and it's showing.
sorry friend just asked to play
22C is your safe-ender. Use that instead of 236C.
Huh, changing the download region worked. Hopefully you'll get some more people since I can't stay up super late tonight.
Fuck, I can't finish Chaos's combos again.
Yeah, that's why 5B sucks as a starter, you can't combo off it without meter at far distances. When you practice 4-2 I recommend ignoring the 5B starter and just keeping in mind the 2C > 4C part that you can use by itself or tack on after almost every non-A starter.
For far 5B, something like 5B > 214A (or 236A) > 236C > 5C > 3C > 623A > 5A > 5C > 214B > 2C > 4C > 214B is probably the standard route to learn although I am bad myself remembering to use my meter to confirm this way and should practice that myself.
I strangely enough have dubious thoughts on my own 5B starters. They're usually really similar to 5C starters for me.
Got it, just an option with meter in mind. I appreciate it.
Also got too greedy adding in that 4c that round, looks like 2c 5c is max before they pop up too high
Watching hippe play Enkidu makes me both excited since Enkidu looks and sounds sick and irritated since I can't do any of that shit yet.
Yeah, don't use 2C, 5C, and 4C all at the same time unless it's specifically 5C > 2C > 4C order. When you do 2A > 2C > 5C, you either want to do the air series or the autopilot 214B > 2C > 4C > 214B danzai loop if you're really just want to end in some damage and knockdown. The more advanced option is to segue into 3B > 623A > 5A > 5C > danzai loop.
2A > 2C > 4C has better routes since you can move directly to 623A or go for the more damaging j.214B stuff.
Conversion power is really important to make the most out of those precious stray hits.
PC lobby
am I doing anything horribly wrong or are you all just really good
Who are ya playing against?
lolb and Melk
I don't wanna play with australian discord trannies anymore bros...
They're both pretty good
Sounds like rough times. Are ya also playing a character that is at a disadvantage in the matchups?
someone buy the game for me pls
We technically don't want to play with 10+ frames either.
Aside from the stuff you'll get just from playing games, block more on wakeup and know which moves are unsafe/safe.
why is it so hard to just pick a character and stick with them
You gotta pickup dash blocking. You'll never touch Vatista or Yuzu without it as Wagner. Keep playing and practicing and you'll get it with time.
>directly to 623A
yeah I noticed that a lot and spent a lot of confirms specfically going 5a > 5c > 2c > dl.4c 623a > 5a but it's harder in practice, think I only landed it once.
Can't wait when I finally attempt those 5c j.92c stuff I glanced over in missions.
Right now I'm just trying to get a feel for him while using basic combos. I feel like I should be able to do a special move after 5BBB instead of just 5CCC but alas.
Once I get more comfortable with the braindead combos I'll try some more complicated stuff.
Find a quirk you like about em. For me, I picked Linne because the idea of a tiny girl dualwielding a giant sword and a knife at the same time was amusing.
Oh right, forgot about this
>Hyde's EXS powers are more like a Void than another In-Birth's
>Where EXS is destroyed on contact by either the Insulator or its projectiles, it's akin to that of a Void devouring EXS
>The Insulator itself is an average blade in cutting power but it's the explosive EXS power that makes it strong
>Hyde can actually call forth the sword from any surface, not just his palms.
>The red mass that the Insulator sends out is raw EXS and they are normally colored red. A black coloration is mixed in with the red which is a personal element that carried over from Hyde's personality, he really likes the color black.
Nah, you're always locked into his autocombo string if you do 5BBB5CCC. There's a few limited cases where they're usable for baiting out mashers but aside from that, it's mostly a crutch.
Should I quit Melee and learn this game?
Does anyone in NA even play it?
Yeah, just a note you don't delay the 4C, you delay the 623A a bit so it pops them up higher for the 5A juggle (though in netplay you don't consciously try to delay as much).
As for the j.2C > j.214A > 66B route, I don't bother attempting it in real matches myself especially since my ghetto homebrew combos only do like 100 less damage while being much easier.
no
yes
Oh damn, Pascal has a Byak now?
A few of us in online lobby are WC and I believe a few are mid and EC.
Also, gonna duck out early because friends wanna play games. GGs lads! If any of you have DOA6, let me know because I may play that later too, ;^)
If you like melee then you should stick with it.
There isn't much reason to drop a fighter unless you dislike it and it's very different than unist.
I liked Yu and Margeret from P4 arena, who would I enjoy
>bars with Lamp
Thank the lord
ggs
Link to stream?
Naw, I haven't been here in eons and saw everyone was using someone new. Might pick him up.
would you guys be mad if i streamed the lobby just for shits
Gah, thanks. That should help a lot.
>double kuuga combo
Impressive
Gonna be another long Night I feel. All I'm doing is auto combos so I'll just grind mission mode after lobby closes tonight and come back to Enkidu another day.
don't stream our secret club bro
>Melk
He's a strong player. You're not gonna be taking sets, much less rounds, off of him.
I only played alittle bit of P4A but if he is anything like his BBTAG counterpart, probably Hyde.
Do whatever, waifu streamed us a couple times.
>tfw Hyde doesn't ahve Yu's j214x
Wait a minute. How is this girl in meltyblood and unist? Like I know the games are made by the same people, but I thought melty blood was just a dounin game of type moon, but unist was their own original property. So how's she in both? Is unist in the same universe as type moon?
no
I was honestly surprised it worked .
I just got the game but I'm really really bad, only played Linne so far.
She's a fourth wall breaking guest character who is in because French Bread also developed Melty Blood.
She's a guest character like the electric ape
FFing all my jump ins gave me miller2b flashbacks
Was that pic made during Uniel? Because he's far from death's door, competitively speaking.
I can't believe that drill kick worked
Yeah, I just dislike Akatsuki
Speaking of the app, haven't seen anyone play him today or yesterday. Where did all the unganbunga mains go?
Yeah, someone update that Enkidu.
thanks for the games PC lobby
one day i'll be good at this
I've been using it more now that I can actually do the FF OS more consistently. I still need to play around with rolling against you to figure out good times to actually use that though.
You're not air flipping as much these days Atic
>Linne's EXS abilities are lot more straightfoward, it simply enhances her AGI
>Why are other characters faster than her? She's still limited by her physical body's limits
-Potential to have two EXS at once, one of her own and one of her host body
>Kuuga and IW/IWEXS where she uses energy is actually based off her own lifeforce, since she's got a limitless amount due to reincarnation bullshittery
>The larger sword she has was made and used by Wald for a time before he gave it to her
>The knife is just a knife she bought at a convenience store.
Practice regularly and I guarantee you will be.
We had waifu and like 3 other apes last night.
Yeah, I'm trying to cut down on the netplay gimmicks to improve my fundamentals. Same reason I'm trying to avoid using 6B in netplay most of the time.
Good, now I've forgotten basic Wald combos. I'm sorry, I'll never leave you again Gramps.
>all those dropped inputs because of netplay delay
Man do I know that feel Brain
It hurts, but I gotta roll with it. Those 5c 3cs will hit in real matches some day.
wait scratch that, I /did/ hit the Cs, it's just the 623a links throwing me off. Reminds me of my corner 22a struggles with Hyde actually.
>3 months of Nanase muscle memory gone
Aw shit, I'll practice her on my own time.
Damn I wish I was a 1/4th as good at wald as hippie, and he doesn't even play him. Feels bad man.
Yeah, getting down 623A routes in particular can be rough at first. I still can't hit the juggle after 623A consistently in netplay delay right now for the more damaging midscreen 5C combo I've been practicing.
Just gotta build good habits.
The connection just seems good tonight. Was getting 1 frame at some points in that match. Don't even get that with redblade.
I've gotten 1 frames before but there were definitely matches where that was a straight up lie.
Why am I not able to record dummies in training mode? Is this a problem only for me or the PC port in general? I heard the PC port supposedly had a bunch of issues
I haven't had a problem, but I remember some people having that issue before. Thought it was patched though.
C-chesto.... fuck i didn't realize i was an ape lover :(
Wish I had a dude standing behind me and his only job was to slap me with a rolled-up newspaper every time I hit a button after waking up. Feel like 50% or more I lose because Im just getting hit by shit.
is ps4 full??
Yes
It took me a long time to get that somewhat beaten out of me.
Yeah. Maybe second lobby time?
I've got around 30 minutes before I go turn in early and leave it to you guys so whatever works.
Hydebros, how do you safejump properly? I end my combos with Bend Sinister then I do assault (hold back) j.B but I still get DP'd
Just end the combo with 2C > 2A (whiff) and assault B
>Overhead
G-Got it
Made a second lobby
Yeah, always block high when there's a superflash involving Phonon
I'll pop in after this circuit.
That Orie color is really working that training room palette
If I see you shielding low for fireballs or 3c fullscreen it's not a bad option for me, especially in low health down back situations
internet is too shit to connect to 2nd lobby
I wasn't paying attention to meter and could've supered that second round. Man. GG Atic.
So lets say I do the Dark Lotus explosion, I should do run up 3B>2C instead of 66C?
Forgot to change the settings for the second lobby, so going to go do that after this match is over
For better oki? Yes
Best colors
Someone have that link with the OST?
music alone is selling me this game holy shit
GGs PC Lobby. I gotta get some sleep. See you on the next night.
Is Orie safe after her FF?
Toward the end of her FF it's like a neutral jump. So not really, though you can air block if you didn't commit to anything beforehand.
ggs, I have a meeting in the morning so I'll be heading out. see ya
GGs
Cant believe that didn't hit.
Got a win though, so I cant even be mad.
G'night lads.
which characters would be a good pick for an idiot and shitter like myself?
Fucking do mission mode and see who clicks.
I'm getting slightly irritated at the rising frequency of these sad cat posts.
Vatista
Gordeau, Hyde, Linne, Orie
GGs everyone. See ya Sunday
GGs
GGs all, hopefully will get those 623a's more consistently next time. Appreciate you guys.
ggs. Time to get some sleep.
GGs to everybody in the pc lobby
Yuzu
>tfw finally understanding why coaches never liked me for always being down on myself, even though it was out of a desire to better rather than "woe is me"
it's an abstract kind of feel, sadposters and people who are down on themselves constantly are insufferable
Is this game at all a good game to pick up if you're new to 2D fighters? Tekken player here.
Unironically easier to pick up than Tekken, for me it was anyway.
Shouldn't be a hard pick-up for anyone who's played fighters before.
Alright, cool. Thanks.
Thanks user
Think I'll call it a night here. Getting tired and Chaos is too much for my thumbs right now. I better stop procrastinating on my work.
ggs everyone.
post more jewpuncher memes
Under Night In-Birth?
more like Under My Blanket Sleeping All Night I'd Rather Give Birth Than Subject Myself To DownBack StareDown Timeout Fighter
what a fucking boring ass kusoge load of horseshit this game is
only one I've got, hopefully someone has the one with the waves and the airpods
I hate fighting Phonon but goddamn her combos be stylish as fuck
UNI Basketball sounds fun as fuck
based
What are the gaps in Akatsuki's pressure and where do I need to shield? I keep falling for projectile>66B and that dive down attack
Why bother replying?
Why give them the attention?
Its just himself
There's literally 2-3 moves you can punish out of his strings, most of them being his far-heavy buttons.
And yeah, j2C is fucking whack.
ggs PC, lobby closed now.
ggs. New guy to these lobbies, hopefully I was a decent punching bag
That's dirty Pascal
Should I get this for PS4 or Steam?
I assume ps4 is more alive.
Sploogie
>Hyde can pull the sword out from anywhere
>He chooses his hand
What a fucking guy.
What are some good characters for a beginner?
fuk u Pascal no perfect
Yuzuriha's a pretty popular beginner character
Any good Wagner guides if I want to pick her up? Also her mission mode stuff isn't viable or something?
ggs Pascal
Aw man, pascal was here tonight? We haven't played in ages, I also haven't spoken to him in a bit.
PS4 lobby cleared out? Darn.
Ah fuck. When you decide to try a new fighter you always remember the fun of learning a new game but never the brain melting trial of seeing all the new flashing lights and bars and meters and terms and trying to piece together what they all mean.
Watch Redblade. Hell he was just in the other thread.
stop asking who you should play as
try them all out and choose who you like
I know its hard to play video games but i'm sure you can do it
Yeah I plan on it but I'd also like something to read up, maybe just to get an idea on where to start.
Shit man there must be at least like, 20 characters. How is any human being supposed to just "try" all of them? That'd be impossible. You should be able to just read my mind and decide for me.
Imagine playing melty
A game with 96 characters
that ones easy though
just pick banana shiki
Try Wagner and Photon first. Try Hyde, Gordeau, Orie, Byakuya, or Merkava if you don't like them.
Try Chaos, Yuzu, Seth or Vat if you want to git gud.
Is Chaos really that hard? I thought he was easy in the execution
>no jewpuncher
How do I unlock the other colors
Go to customize and use in game currency
You have to be either a drooling retard or a genius to play Akatsuki.
I don't get it, how does under night in birth translate to unist?
The last[st] game ends with [st]
im the first one