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CONTROVERSIAL: I don't think that woman is Eva. I think she ties into V's backstory.
Check the catalog stupid dmcuck
You have 4 threads up already
Trish is ugly as fuck now. How the fuck can you faggots accept this? It's the same with Claire. These devs are laughing at you faggots.
FUH STRA T I O N
and now its time for another
RISE AGAIN
THIS IS YOUR LEGACYYYYYYYYY
What's worse, making hot girls ugly or white guys black?
Is Nero going to be the only one left STANDING
ON THE EDGE
OF THE CRATER
Who cares about Trash, the game looks amazing in every single regard about her
>W-w-who cares?
Spoken like a true cuck
>southworth posting mocap on twitter 2 weeks before launch
so he's doing mocap for playable vergil dlc right
>just over a week left
Look's like we've still got a long way to go.
You can call me a cuck all you want, i am way too motivated and hyped to care
wat u sey to me?
>Shitposters trying to kill hype and getting judgement cut into oblivion by Vergil's reveal in the trailer today
You aren't worthy to be our opponent
Delusional cuck
I NEED THAT FUCKING SONG GODDAMMIT
dumb Nero not using wire snatch!
FUCK YOU Yea Forums
I'm not spoiling myself a week away from release
Trish is shit and has always been ugly, age only accentuated it. Lady is the patrician's waifu of choice.
Is V Mundus?
QT QT QT QT
Lady is worse but no one cares about it
>It's my last quest....to kill all SPARDAAAA SEEDS....
What will Vergil's first words be?
Why does Dante age, but Vergil doesn't?
>tfw I bought REmake 2 because I thought I would be able to afford both it and DMC5 but it turns out I can't
user you've got a week to sell a kidney
I can buy it but I don't have enough time to finish my current game, then jump to DMC5, and then jump to Sekiro.
You can suck so many dicks in a single week you could afford coat edition
>You showed up
I'm glad finally Dante got his own sword not his father's legacy, which means he had stepped up and ready to make his own legend
>Demons shout DANTEEEEEE instead of SPARDAAAAAA
he's vergil's goth side
of course he is moondust
He'd pull the whole van
BANG BANG BANG STOP SPOILING THE STORY NIGGERS!!
Honestly though, the way they show him walking at the end alone and flashes of V and Dante makes it seem like he's going to be the only one left able to keep going at best, and the only one of the three alive at worst.
I CANT WAIT FOR THE SFM PORN OF SHOTA DANTE
I played only 4 and that was like 10 years ago. From the trailers, do I need to play the others to understand what happens in this game?
>WARNING! Spoilers ahead, though they may be very motivating…
Been out the loop on this since i don't follow Yea Forums much but reading this description before watching the video made me ejaculate
>Trishfag has an incorrect opinion
Not surprising
>Vergizen shit talking nero about having human blood
what the fuck vergil
Some people age better than others. Also I think since DMC hasn't really had a hugely consistent visual design you can probably just put it down to what the devs thought worked for each game.
Is that Cate Blanchett?
Play 3 at the very fucking least nigga. It's way better then 4 and it'll let you learn who the fuck Vergil is.
Demons shouted DANTEE in the DMC1 novel
>Nero regrows Devil Bringer
He truly understands motivation now
I actually like Lady
He didn't even see his face though, so how would we know he aged better? You just she him from the back.
Probably he didn't age when Mundus powered him up and made him Angelo.
It that suppose to be Nero's DT at the end?
Van isn't targetable
everything peaked in dmc3
>vergil only appears in the last few missions
ITSUNNNOO
1/2 correct. It's Eva and it ties into V's backstory.
post steam id and i'll gift you
I like Lady
The demo was the first DMC I've ever played and I didn't like it.
Glad it's a leap year, three less days of February to sit through.
After DMC4 where literally nothing of substance or meaning really happens it's great to see actual stakes and story development happening
What you didn't liked about it, honestly asking
k
>Play 3 at the very fucking least nigga
Alright. But I guess that will be sometime in summer.
>yfw he says it to mundus reborn
The demons voice acting was REALLY bad.
A couple of awkward lines from Trish too.
Kinda odd choices for a trailer
There will be a small video recap in-game, but of course won't replace actually playing the games
WHY NOT NOT NIGGA YOU'VE GOT 8 DAYS
The memes, Jack. They know of them. Half the time I see a Capcom post, they reference something.
>a fucking devil may cry game might have the most emotional story of the year
accept friend request and i'll send it
"DANTE, FUCK LUCIA, PLEASE"
I don't want to fight through the whole level every time I die at the boss. And the audio mixing was bad.
Dante had the worst haircut in that game.
Thanks user, but I'd appreciate it more if I bought it myself
I'll get it eventually.
I'm so sorry V for doubting you pls dont die
>WHY NOT NOT NIGGA YOU'VE GOT 8 DAYS
No money and no time user.
>I don't want to fight through the whole level every time I die at the boss
That is a problem only the demo has, the final game has checkpoints and even a system to "respawn" in the place you died by spending red orbs/yellow orbs
>And the audio mixing was bad
Please don't tell me you mean the music
shit user, i'm on a different region and steam is not letting me gift you
and you're not the poorfag but i was going to gift you anyway, sorry
>I have plans for the both of you
>Wraps Trish and Lady with tentacles
What does Urizen mean by this???
preload when?
It means doujins will happen
If there is one, they are usually are 2 days before release
>That is a problem only the demo has, the final game has checkpoints and even a system to "respawn" in the place you died by spending red orbs/yellow orbs
This seems like a bad choice for the demo
>Please don't tell me you mean the music
I mean the audio mixing, in the cutscenes the voices get drowned by the music and sound effects
I could never fap to tentacles.
How can he be so CUHRAAZYY and depressed at the same time?
>audio mixing was bad
IT BEGINS
I haven't heard this one in a long time. Where does the time go, indeed.
Urizen's movements were pretty rough too.
>imagine Trish getting pinned against a gray wall, that's the same color of her fucking boring bitch-ass character who imperonates moms becuase she's literally an unholy wretch with no dignity whatsoever, while at the same time the demon-whore who suckled Mundus' big red tri-balls and had so much piss-stained demon cum splurged all over her hair, it got dyed blond, is being fisted with pizza up her matrix-2000 black fetish pants ripped apart, so hard the term yeast infection gets a new meaning, and with her last whoreish, skanky, breaths she coughs up the crusty, hell-cum out her ps2-octagon mouth, leaving her dark soul unfilled, yet her ass stuffed to the brim
HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO TELL YOU, YOU OLD HAG! NO WAY!
>you must change your name
Dante is not Dante or that kid was someone else.
How are you bro?
dante actually changed name for a while
>Tony Redgrave
>all that power
VERGIL ATE THE FUCKING FRUIT DIDNT HE? THE BEAT URIZEN AND HE JUST FUCKING SWOOPS IN AND STEALS THE FRUIT
The HD Collection is dirt cheap and 1 and 3 are pretty short.
how would you know?
Go sell blood plasma. No joke. You get good money
bipolar, easy.
DANTEEEEEEEEEEE
He changed to Tony Redgrave, check the name on Ebony and Ivory
if eva was on about dante isnt it a little bit disrespectful to change his name back to dante
Vergil appears when the dimensions start to shatter and blend when Urizen says, "I will show you your worst nightmares." He also doesn't have any of the corruption that we can clearly see on him when he takes Nero's arm. So maybe that Vergil is an illusion while the man himself is within Urizen, or maybe he stopped ageing during his time as a corrupted puppet and now he's no longer corrupted he's basically the same age he was in 3. Or he just looks younger in that particular shot.
This trailer hyped me to no end. I wish I could fall asleep right now and wake up on March 8th.
>Vergil finally gets his ultimate power
>gets murdered by his own son
ABSOLUTE
K I N O
>This is for my arm you ripped off! dad!
mfw
No way, hag
He became too powerful to care
Why does everything about him look so dark? He doesn't even look white anymore.
They spoke about mission 12 being when shit gets real (which is why the preview build only went to mission 11), so there'll be 8 missions which logically should have the most multi-route character choice too, that ain't too bad at all.
>tfw Raiden will never be a guest character
THEY MADE HIM INTO A NIGER? I KNEW IT WOULD HAPPEN!
It's just the lighting, i mean hell, wasn't until long ago till we found out Nero's Devil Bring is still red, it only looked dark blue/black due the lighting
>mgr2 never
>Gene will never be a guest character
>not even a God Hand for Nero
Dramatic reveal lighting
We still won't see Vergil until mission 17, wish we got to see him earlier in the game.
at march 6th
I must be out of the loop, where are you getting mission 17 from?
I really hope Trish and Lady are more than just damsels in distress in this game.
I mean fuck, Lady was a boss fight in DMC3, she doesn't deserve to just be jammed into a demon and then forgotten once she's saved.
>VERY motivated man reviving at incredible hihg power.jpg
because i've tried to gift it and it told me we're on different regions with different prices, so it didn't let me
don't worry how i knew, i was going to gift it anyway, sorry it didn't worked out
even Dante is getting fucked up vs Urizen, what the fuck they supposed to do? they will already appear naked. It's good this way.
So V is Vergil's human half and Urizen is Virgil's demon half? Is this how it's gonna work?
No, V is sparda.
V -> 5 -> S -> Sparda
His colored crystal is even purple.
no, none of that is confirmed and isn't even that likely
I love Lucia & want to see her more, but I also love this version of Chrisposting.
I want to cuddle with Eva.
From the trailer it seems to me that Vergil is end game... I hope I’m wrong
V is Mundus, Urizen is just a generic bad guy and a red herring.
Vergil is nothing more than a puppet trying to free himself.
Im just interested with Nero talking to the rest of the cast. Its the first game he'll be directly talking to trish, lady, and morrison. Maybe even patty. No gloria doesn't count he didn't know.
>tfw you will never be shota dante to cuddle with M O M M Y
Dante: You showed up.
Vergil: You sure know how to throw a party
Max is that you
Dante's an idiot for not breeding this.
so? whaddya think about the game now? were you convinced by this final marketing effort? mhmm?
I thought I wasn't coming back to DMC thread till March 8th...
WE DO IT FOR HIM!
Name of the trophy for it is "Back to life"
He did, V is Dante and Lucia's son
>Vergil fucking cut the sky
I want to make her my GF
BASED
do you guys regret watching the trailers and not leaving yourself to be surprised when the game comes out?
who?
i just want a mission where Dante and Vergil have back and forth banter throughout all of it
characters talk outside of cutscenes now so it could work
Eva looks like an adorable and lovely middle aged mom.
Trish looks like skank way past her prime.
I guess MVC3 Vergil was on the right side of history.
>vergil still hasn't changed his clothes in over 20 years
Can i upgrade my physical copy to the deluxe version? I just want old tracks and extra breakers
WHAT THE FUCK
WAS THAT EVA
IS V DANTE AND VERGIL'S BROTHER
no, the trailers gave me even more hype
>The girls look like shit in DMCV
Damn, they should've just stick with DMC3-4 when it comes to the girl.
Yes after release you can buy each thing individualy
kinda, only the mommy part was a surprise though, vergil was obviously going to be in, he was in the first trailer. I'm sure there are many more surprises in game
Depends where you're preordering, I think Amazon lets you
Likely, but remember that even NPCs need mocap
Eva had a twin sister called Avea who is V's mother
a little bit, but hopefully there will be enough in the game to surprise me still
Not really.
I do regret seeing the reveal of Cerberus though, coming across that naturally would've put the dumbest smile on my face
GIVE ME ALL YOUR BEST URIZEN PICS
Yes. To the point that I've already told my friends and siblings to avoid the trailer and wait a week. This is like getting spoiled by Youtube recommendations for God of War all over again; would have loved to see that in-game and not early.
I bet there will be a confused journo somewhere complaining that dante's mother didn't age referring to trish and how that is sexist
Call me a shill or idiot or whatevs, but this is the first game I actually preordered for day one release in... actually, this is the first game I've done that with. If the rest of the game is as fun as the demo, then it's going to be an absolute blast --even though I'm a dirty scrub who can only get A...
ONE MORE WEEK
WHERE'S DA DAFT CUNT WHO SAID WE COULDN'T HAVE DMC THREADS FOR EIGHT MONTHS STRAIGHT?
wait have we actually seen Cerberus? not just the weapon?
>V isn't with Nero and Dante when Vergil shows up
Yep, he will fucking die.
>V: If only you had never existed...Then I...
What did he mean by this? Could this tie in to Eva?
I mean we all knew from the e3 trailer it was vergil to begin with. Or it was a high probability. Now its just a matter of finding out how all of this happened.
Or the theory about him being Vergil's human side was correct and the merging will happen
>not Lilith
POWER
As someone who also never pre ordered a game, i got to admit im trying hard as fuck not to do it for DMC5.
I agree. When I saw Trish in DMC 4, I wanted to throw up. But when I saw Lady in DMC 4. Holy shit, She a cute. I'm glad her looks got better in DMC 5.
I meant the weapon.
Also seeing the "come here boy" scene in one of the trailers was honestly a little disappointing to me
I used to love this series when I was younger. Unfortunately I have arthritis now so can't play 5. Sucks getting old.
>Vergil going Captain Blue on Nero's ass
That's it. GOTD.
Nah, at the end of the day I'm here for the gameplay.
How old?
if he's the human side that might explain how he can control the dmc1 familiars since he has was nelo angelo and has some connection to them.
IF YOU WANNA SEE SOME ACTION
YOU GOTTA BE THE CENTER
OF
ATTRACTION
you could play it on auto
>fast travel is disabled when enemies are nearby
She was talking to Dante. Dante changed his name to Tony Redgrave, remember. That scene has nothing to do with V.
Why do you refuse to gain power?
WE'RE FALLING TOGETHER
Nah, seeing the trailers has only made me more motivated. I'm sure there will still be a lot of surprises to see.
I'm probably going to go on exile from Yea Forums until I actually play the game, though. I have waited 10 years for this game, I ain't gonna let you fags spoil it for me.
What is with japs and constantly using these cringe ass sad pop balads in their trailers?
REACH FOR THE SKY VERGIL
>fucking Nero Angel DT
ITSUNOOOOOOO
God looking at DMC5´s soundtrack, it has a little of everything and everything fits so well somehow.
what's with the color
Increase voice volume
Decrease music and SFX volume
Wooow, that was so hard...
Next thing, shitters are gonna complain that the camera is too zoomed in.
Just because he has wings/angels characteristics it doesn't mean he is an angel. Think Credo and Sanctus, they both believed themselves angels when they were just demons with angel traits, sorta like Beowulf in 3
So how bug-riddled is the PC version gonna be?
>That entire Eva segment
I don't feel cuhrayzee anymore
While I'm more hyped than ever, it's still a bit disappointing that we didn't see any new weapons or bosses
>looks like Nero is getting a new DT
>Blue Wings
>Red-Blue with Logo
I hope this is some Genkidama shit and not a self-sacrifice power up
When's the last time you saw a bug in DMC?
Between Astral Chain, Nier: Automata, Bayonetta 3, and DMC5. I think it's safe to say the age of cuhrazy is back.
Did the streak remain completely unbroken the whole time?
Half of 4's tech is bugs, not PC-specific though
>I mean the audio mixing, in the cutscenes the voices get drowned by the music and sound effects
Yeah, I noticed this too. Which is a shame cause Nero's trashtalk with Goliath is a lot of fun
Did you play RE2? Did you see any bugs? This game is running in the same engine
>people on Yea Forums think she's ugly
why does this board have such shit taste in women?
What is the thread where the trailer first dropped, I want to see the reaction.
just usually japs suck at making things work properly with wangblows like nier
There's no way Vergil isn't playable. He is very obviously a center figure in the story and Capcom would not fucking dare with how much people fucking love him this time around.
>inb4 HE WASN'T PLAYABLE IN THE OTHER GAMES TILL THE SPECIAL EDITIONS
Shut the fuck up, dipshits, this game is Devil May Cry's AND the sons of Sparda's final hurrah into the sunset and a return to its roots. Capcom isn't gonna not have Vergil be playble.
His buster arm also starts glowing.
His DT is literally berserk Eva 01 from Evangelion
SSStylish!!!
Who exactly? everybody is saying how she's a QT and waifu material
So guys I came down with an awful flu. Serious fever, shivering uncontrollably. It's mostly better now, but I do have a killer headache still. This shit won't kill me before DMC5 comes out.
Yeah but that's Square Enix, this is Capcom, they are known for making their engines and games for PC in mind first and then port them to console
>Vergil boss fight as Nero
>About halfway through his bar
>You're doing alright, not even half of your first bar is down
>Vergil tricks away
>That fucking purple shield shows up
>Spiral swords start circling around him
>Fuck no
>"You know, son..."
>Vergil unseathes Yamato
>"It took quite some time to realize this."
>Throws the scabbard away
>"But swords are twice as powerful when used with both hands."
>Vergil grips Yamato with both hands, gaining the Alastor moveset
dlc
We only need one thread a day at minimum. Not even necessary to reach bump, only to create one. It's not that hard.
capcom likes money and vergil is extremely popular so they'll probably make him dlc or SE so people will buy the upgrade. I'd love for capcom to prove me wrong though
DMC4 Dante best Dante
DMC1 Trish best Trish
DMC3 Vergil (tentatively) best Vergil
DMC5 and 3 Lady are tied for best
DMC5 Nero best Nero.
Yeah but he'll probably be DLC.
If he's literally in the base game I'd be motivated, but that's just too much to hope for with Capcom.
this puts me at ease to buy MH:W too thank you
No
Like father, like son.
Only if if the trailers show basically the entire game. Kingdom Hearts 3 for example.
>>Vergil grips Yamato with both hands, gaining the Alastor moveset
>Ultra Violet starts playing
based and checkedpilled
Trailer dropped in the middle of the novel
The thread after that
>DMC1 Trish best Trish
No way. I want to bury myself in 4 Trish's cleavage.
Think this is the one
A little, but I'm sure the game will still have some surprises up it's sleeve.
YOU FOOL! THAT'S A JOBBER THEME YOU JUST CURSED HIM!
Now that we saw more of the shot where Morrison is looking up, i'm pretty sure he is going to cry for what he is seeing.
What looked like a grin now looks like a very sad face.
Capcom has been all about pleasing the fans lately. Vergil will be playable in the base game.
>MH:W
Ok you know how there is an exception to every rule, MH:W port is not handled by Capcom, but it´s own team and this is their first port ever, the game is fully functional now, but it does require a somewhat beefy CPU to run better.
>this game is Devil May Cry's AND the sons of Sparda's final hurrah into the sunset
No one's ever said this.
We still haven't seen mundus at all and he's supposed to show up.
it's Trish and it ties to V's backstory
dante/lady's son, raised by trish, time travel bullshit
It's not Devil May Cry's final hurrah but it has been explicitly said this game will end the tale of the Sons of Sparda.
I don't care if Vergil is DLC. I just want him to actually have his own missions.
>Vergil swings Yamato with both hands
>accidentally splits the Earth in two
HE IS URIZEN YOU FUCKING MORON
>15$ Vergil DLC
>4 unique missions with 2 unique bosses
would this be worth it
I'll bet my left nut he appears in mission 12 and that trophy refers to either him becoming himself again or another character (Mundus or Sparda maybe). Don't state assumptions as facts either way.
Look what happens in his DT Yamato string in DMC4, that heavy slash has a million goddamn active frames
barely.
Absolutely.
>6 unique missions
>3 unique bosses
>option to play him in the main campaign
now we're talking
no worries got an 8700K
I hope you remember to blasT "Yea Forums sings Devil Trigger" on release day until you actually start the game.
>Nero picks up Yamato.
>Rushes forward with a jump slash at Vergil
>"BANG BANG BANG, PULL MY DE-"
>Vergil stops Yamato with his hand
>Devil Trigger stops playing
>it has been explicitly said this game will end the tale of the Sons of Sparda.
No one's ever said this.
I don't want to play on release so I'm gonna get spoiled to shit anyway.
You'll pay for the Vergil DLC whether you like it or not, bitch
Thanks user.
Absolutely not. This trailer have only fueled my excitement. It has only served to make my experience better.
It's called global illumination and physically based rendering, probably a bit of subsurface scattering too.
I DON'T WANT DANTE TO DIE
I CAN'T WATCH DANTE DIE
I LOVE THIS MOTHERFUCKER SINCE I WAS 3 YEARS OLD I CAN'T WATCH HIM SACRIFICE HIMSELF LIKE THAT
>haven't talked to my brother for two years or so
>he just phoned me asking if i saw the last DMC trailer
It was part of the initial leak though??
Ah yea you should be fine, as i said game works flawlessly now, on release it had it rough though, it was a complete shitshow but that was mostly server and connection issues, plus the Nvidia drivers released made the game run MUCH worse (literally had a 30 fps gain by going back to the previous drivers).
It was literally one of the first things we knew.
BAN
KAI
I'm so fucking excited to see what Nero is going to pull off goddamn
>nero picks up yamato but not the sheath
>tries to stab vergil
>vergil just puts it back in the sheath no problems and pushes nero away
I'm getting pizza
You two need to get together and play it then, but say to him "So this is what they call a heartwarming family reunion, huh?" when the door opens.
Dante's gonna die isn't he?
This is what they call a heartwarming family reunion, eh?
No I need more missions and playable main campaign
QT
i cannot take this any longer
Man, you guys are fucking dorks.
Love you all.
His hair looks way fucking better than in DMC4
>Post yfw when the game turns out to be a The Phantom Pain tier dissapointment
>>vergil just puts it back in the sheath no problems and pushes nero away
Now that's FUCKING DMC way to do it
Eight days....we are gonna make it!
>Eva looks uncanilly similar to the girl thats sending me nudes on snapchat
>DMC1 Trish best Trish
LMAO, DMC4 Trish is the best Trish.
>same thing with Claire
I can understand you having a problem with Trish's appearance but I literally don't understand all the XDDD LA GOBLINA posting with Claire. It's not even "stockholm syndrome" I've been fine with how Claire looks since RE2 got revealed at E3. Her face itself is fine, she just looks kind of awkward at certain moments (like when she's in the middle of talking).
I'm gonna stream it for my friend and play Yea Forums sings Devil Trigger on the final boss
>「助ける!?お前が!?人間を!?マジで言ってんの、それ?頭でも打った?」
>Help!? You!? (Helping) the humans!?...
V ISN'T HUMAN DON'T BELIEVE HIS LIES
Hey, I made that. Thanks for saving it, user.
not gonna happen
>tfw been telling my mom about DMC5 for months now
>last couple of months have told her that she's going to play it after me
>showed her the final trailer
>she marked down DMC5's release in her calendar and is eagerly waiting to make pizzas with me on release day and play the game
I love my mom.
Just finished 3, does the Vergil mode add anything new? Also what’s bloody palace?
DANTE'S NEW SWORD LOOKS GAY AND I CANT HANDLE IT
7 days
Apparently he's gotta stay at my place while he's in business trip so we'd have a chance to play it together
I don't wanna him seeing me crying tho
>tfw worried my increasinly potato PC of i5-2500k and GTX 960 wouldn't run the game at 60 fps
>Try RE7 teaser which is the same engine
>90 fps
>180 fps if I set it to 720p which is last resort for smooth gameplay
One way or another it's gonna be 60 for me.
Even if the story is trash, which is doutbful, people like DMC mostly for its gameplay
post pics of mommy
>The end of Sparda Saga
>People somehow believed that Vergil will be the final boss
It will be fucking Mundus.
based mom
> eva and trish literally the same model
> only difference is that trish dyed her hair in an unnatural blonde
> when you marry her you can tell her to keep her natural color
>tfw same setup but a better card
is there hope
Seven actually
Not really, just a new intro and ending cutscene, but it's the same game as Dante, even against the "Vergil" bossfights you just do a mirror match with a red coat Vergil. And Bloody Palace is basically a gauntlet mode where you go through floors fighting enemies and bosses from the game, it's fun and the thing i replay the most on DMC3 and 4
>tfw no cuhrayzee mom
This is a special occasion user. Don't be ashamed
Don't be a pussy.
>Secret Mission: 18
>"Happy Birthday"
>"Prevent enemies from ruining Patty's birthday party"
fuck me now i need to watch kill bill again
Eva is better looking for some reason
Oh and of course Vergil has a complete different moveset
Like, no one, except capcom themselfs
It's the hairstyle I feel. Eva's is more comely
Probably should just watch the cutscenes for it on YouTube then yeah?
I have an i7-6700 and a GTX 980 and if I can't get this game to run 60fps on AT LEAST high then I will be cooned
>instead if blue orb fragment patty givers her virginity to dante as a reward
Yo lemme hit her up
Trish was always Trash so I can deal with it.
I'm too dumb and dimwitted to put everything together so it doesn't really matter. Even if I did, the beauty of a good story is that it's good, or better, even when you know it already - if you rely on shock value to make your plot twists and turns good, then it probably wasn't good to begin with.
You really think Roger Ebert was bored of Citizen Kane after the first time he watched it? "Oh Rosebud yeah I know what that means ugh here he is driving in a car boring let's go watch WWE".
Just try it with RE2 Demo, it's the true benchmark since DMC5 runs even better than RE2
>RE2R is a success
>DMC5 is most likely to be a success
What's next for Capcom? We already know they're remaking RE3, Itsuno will probably work on DD2 next. Will Capcom remake Dino Crisis and God Hand?
>yfw
Viewtiful Joe 3
>tfw even an Xbox One S is better than a pcfag PC
>wifi was out all day
>mfw finally comes back on and I return to this
FUCKING VERGIL
I legit teared up a bit at the parts with Eva, I'm such a pussy
And like lucia who practically offered for Dante to take her right there in his office she'll get NWF'd as well
HE'S IN BOIS
A good fighting game for once
>Anons seem constantly reuniting with their family members and duying and crying
>just like DMC characters
DD2, Rival Schools 2, REmake3
I run that on max except I have to turn textures to Medium because I get streaming issues so I should be alright, most important thing for DMC is particles and RE engine does a good job at keeping particles and physics running good
I think it looks cuhrayzee and based.
he's so cute bros
whens GOOD mahvel?
tfw dante dies
>glass drops
>Vergil slowly turns his head
>Nero gets pissed off saying "So you're the asshole that took my arm" and starts walking towards him to attack
>Dante literally jaw drops, barely managing to tell Nero to stop and fuck off
>Dante starts walking rapidly towards Vergil
>Vergil gets uppity and starts drawing Yamato
>Dante gives him a hug and starts crying on his shoulder
It's all I ever wanted Itsuno
Dante belongs to the demon as autistic as him
Once in a whole decade i have a full right to become a pussy and you cannot stop me.
Not really. I do wish I hadn't seen King Cerberus (even though we've only partially seen him/Dante mocking him). Vergil was obvious from the get-go so confirmation of what I already knew isn't a big deal, and most of the bosses are just, "Hey cool, new demon," so it wouldn't make much difference seeing them for the first time in the game or a trailer, but randomly finding an ice area ending with Cerb would have been a great moment going in blind. Same with some enemies like proto angelo, sin scissors, nobodies, but it's a double-edged sword since I didn't have enough faith in Capcom to go in blind so had to see everything they were putting out to trust in the game. It's a small price to pay in the end.
Give me 5 reasons why V = moondust. You can't, it's baseless speculation.
>it's not stockhold syndrome
user, I....
>has to steal Dante's sword to even register on the power scale
lmao what a scrub
I'm getting serious vibes that Vergil will be playable on Mission 18 at the very least.
>Mission 17 completion achievement is "Back to life"
>Mission 18 is "Man on a mission"
Man on a mission could imply any of the 4 characters but it easily makes the most sense for Vergil if he's introduced at the end of Mission 17.
I mean don't be a pussy about crying in front of your brother.
OK lads I think I've figured this shit out. Screencap this.
Urizen is Sparda. The flashback with Eva will reveal that Mundus brainwashed Sparda just like he did with Vergil later. Mundus killed Eva through Sparda. With Mundus sealed away, Sparda becomes the new Demon Emperor. Corrupted Sparda sees weakness in his legacy, which is why he insults Nero's/Dante's human heritage. The fruit of the tree is Sparda's power, and it's coming out of Sparda's old home. "Bless me with the leaf off of the tree / Praise to my father blessed by the water": the clues were in front of us all along. This might also be why Urizen is interested in Trish and Lady, Trish is obvious but Lady is a descendant of a priestess Sparda knew, nobody else has any reason to consider her important. Sparda's goal is to crown a new demon emperor in order to free himself and stop Mundus from returning. Vergil is after the fruit because he wants to gain Sparda's power. V is a human who summoned Vergil. Vergil is too strong to be controlled like the other demons, and takes over V's body. This is the hooded Vergil that takes Yamato. He says that he's running out of time because he's about to transform back into V. V shares some of Vergil's memories, which is how he learns about the tree, and knows things like that Dante is a stubborn bastard. He knows through Vergil that Dante is the only one who can fix this shit, and travels to find him. "I am only two days old" refers to the fact that he's only been himself for a short time after taking control back from Vergil. Eventually V starts to turn back into Vergil. He's running out of time. After the gang fights Urizen, Vergil takes over V at the last moment and gets the fruit, becoming fully restored and carrying the full power of Sparda.
Fuck it, who wants a DMC3 stream today? gonna watch all the cutscenes and shit to prepare for 5
i want this so much
Can't, it's not available anymore.
That's could be anyone, there's no proof that it's Vergil.
DANTE CAN'T DIE! HE'S GOTTA BREED LUCIA FIRST.
So wait can someone explain how the original DMC novels tie in to how the current timeline is?
>Little brother showed up unannounced this morning just to spoil Vergil's appearance before I got the chance to see the trailer.
I will kill him.
>End of Eva flashback
>Story literally goes end of EVA crazy-tier
>Nero grows 01 berserk energy wings
>Space tree cracking open the crust of the earth
>Vergil blue light beaming up from Urizen's corpse
>Everything coming together
They're probably retiring the cast after DMC5. I can't see how they can make another game with Dante and even Nero after DMC5 when the scale is this enormous. It's going to be some new characters, like Nero's and Kyrie's twin kids or something or Lady spin-off games or Sparda prequel.
Do you think Capcom can have your trust again especially with dmcv?
It felt obvious that my boy Vergil was going to make an appearance but it's nice to see some 100% visual confirmation
>cracking
>dmc 1 monsters as familiars
>crimson cloud
>「助ける!?お前が!?人間を!?マジで言ってんの、それ?頭でも打った?」
>Help!? You!? (Helping) the humans!?...
>there are still autismos in denial that Vergil is Urizen
roflmao
Go for it, Vergil's playstyle is super fun though, at the very least consider playing Bloody Palace with him and level up his only style
I have a feeling this game is literally, objectively GOTC (century) and the only reason it's not gonna be awarded as such is because it doesn't have a powerful transgender furrykin strong black female who need no man as its main character
>Dante hugs him
>Scene is with Dante's back to the camera
>Cut to his face looking shocked and a cut sound being made
>Camera pulls back and shows Vergil having stabbed Dante with Yamato
>"Disappointing..."
>i5
>1060
>still stutters
WHAT THE FUCK.
It's bigger than I want it to be but besides that it's great. I love how it only glows once he's in combat.
holy fuck I would laugh my ass off, that's literally Vergil right there
curious
Apparently the current timeline is:
Dmc3 manga-dmc3-dmc1-dmc anime-dmc2-nocturne(isnt confirmed yet)-dmc4-dmc5 prequel novel-dmc5
>only new this this trailer showed was Vergil's full body and Dante's new sword
>both of which we've seen bits of by now
>Urizen's true identity and origin still murky
>V's still a mystery
>Nero's DT pretty much confirmed, but still not shown
This is only a spoiler if you haven't seen anything from the game yet.
CAPCOM
I CAME FOR WACKY PIZZA ADVENTURES
THERE IS A MOTORCYCLE WEAPON, CAPCOM
I DIDN'T COME HERE FOR SADNESS
DEVIL HUNTERS LOST IN SPACE
CAPCOM, PLEASE
I'VE TOLD YOU TO STOP SADPOSTING
still not gonna happen
>i7 4790k
>16gb RAM
>970 overclocked
It's gonna be a comfy ride user.
>I produced the score to another very ambitious game at Capcom called Marvel vs Capcom Infinite. It’s a Streetfighter game.
>just found out DMC5 is $55 for deluxe and $47 for standard on GMG
>bought deluxe on steam literally 2 hours ago for $75
>dont want to to the run around waiting for refund
well its just $20 but still, could have gotten other vidya or a few pizzas with that
V IS VERGIL GUYSSS
why
what's the poing
it doesn't even makes sense
fuck you itsuno
>virgil
BASED JEFF
SPLIT MYSELF IN TWO
V IS HALF VERGIL
Well?
Is the singer the same as COLORS WEAVE INTO A SPIRE OF FLAME?
Maybe he's a sleeper agent? "The greatest trick the devil has ever pulled" kind of thing, you know?"
>Dante literally jaw drops, barely managing to tell Nero to stop and fuck off
Don't know why this made me laugh.
I TOLD YOU HE WAS VERGIL
Me?
Im already half virgil
that article literelly has a spelling mistake don't get too excited could be fake
>tfw Jeff Rona composer for V's battle theme just spoiled that he "composed the battle theme for virgil (one I yeah) whom we also call V" in an interview
Jesus christ how can one man be this retarded?
YOUR CITY IS OVERRUN BY DEMONS, THEY'RE EVERYWHERE, AND ONLY (YOU) CAN STOP THEM. SHOW ME YOUR DEMON HUNTER FACE!
What the fuck.
How can we be sure this isn't just the stupid ass composer not knowing the story and mixing up V and Vergil like the that time when the incorrectly called Dante foul-mouthed.
First Trailer: Nero having a fun time killing demons
Last Trailer: Everybody Fucking Dies
WHAT HAPPENED ITSUNO STOP
I've booked two weeks off work for when DMC5 drops. Capcom as a whole is still a troublesome little bitch but Takeuchi and Okabe have proven themselves worthy of Itsuno.
>V starts cracking
>this is my last request
>face falls off revealing Vergil
>yfw
SEXUAL FRUSTRATION IS GETTING BIGGER
Not gonna lie i've just gone full REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE from this shit. Even if it's just trolling at this point of hype it's a blessed one
That crazy
Y'all forgetting the
>foul-mouthed anit-hero
thing.
He did said we would cry at the end
>Realized DMCV is coming soon
>Decide to wrap up my DMC4 SE playthrough and to hurry up and beat DMC1/3
>Finished with DMC4 a couple hours ago
>Sit down to my PC for a break and maybe a short wank before diving into DMC1
>"DMC5 Final Trailer"
>mfw
THIS SHIT IS C O N F I R M E D FAKE YOU DUMB NIGGERS
So in terms of Devil Arms and not guns
>Rebellion, Sparda and the reforged Rebellion all replace eachother
>Cerberus with 3 modes
>Cavaliere
>Balrog
Is that all we're getting? Or will we get surprised later on
It would be hilarious if they had Dan locked up and gagged to prevent him from spoiling shit this whole time only to have some random music dude unknowingly drop the biggest bombshell ever.
>Confirmed fake
>On an interview that literally released today
>thinking dmc3 dante is better than literally any other version
Wait a second, at 2:17 that's clearly the same scene from the announcement trailer where Nico opens the van door and goes "hey honey, need assistance?" except she's wearing a different outfit, she has the long sleeves and the welding mask on. I'm not completely out of the loop, I've seen her wearing that outfit before in the demo screen in the van. But it's just the fact that she's wearing something different in the exact same scene...so maybe there are some alt costumes? Obviously not brand new ones that are completely different, but at least minor ones. maybe coatless alts?
>doesn't even makes sense
>"Split myself in two"
>Vergil saying "Running out of time" as he's shambling like a zombie
>Now V in the lategame also cracking with his skin and shambling around "my last request"
To survive Vergil split himself in two and V is his human half, however the longer he goes on the human and demon half yearns to join together, so V is dying.
Dante isn't going to die is he? He wouldn't do that to us would he?
Itsuno said there would be secret weapons that we didn't see yet
Where?
Unless you are being memey you should know that he uses them as vessels/batteries for a couple of demon bosses, I think the titty one with a bunch of lasers is the one trapping Trish inside it.
I dont remember anything about the story of the first 4 games
that's sadly the only way to wrap up the sons of sparda. Give Vergil a redemption and kill Dante (so Vergil can truly feel what Dante felt all his life)
WHAT IF HE MEANT THAT DANTE AND VERGIL RECONCILE AND THEY BOTH DIE TOGETHER PROTECTING NERO
Now do you remember?
Who you are?
What you were meant to do?
I cheated death thanks to you.
Itsuno did say there're secret weapons, so expect maybe one or two more.
Then again, he did also say Dante has a theme of 4, so who knows
The majin sword seems a bit different
It has a ghosted after hit effect so I dont think it will replace sparda
>stockhold
baka user. Anyways what point are you trying to make? I already said I was fine with her face from the beginning.
They've confirmed secret weapons
Which if true would mean the work put in Dante is insane for a supposedly Nero game
>tfw realise V's not around with Dante and Nero when Vergil appears
What's the source of that pic of Nero in the thumbnail? For shopping purposes.
>doesn't even makes sense
Nigger Vergil got Yamato. What the fuck do you think Yamato was for?
Itsuno-sama! Holy shit....
I almost started crying when I saw him.
It feels so good friends.
My brother and I love this franchise to death, it truly means the world to us.
It's like being a kid all over again.
How can one japanese man be so based.
>first leak which was correct also called "V(Vergil)"
>SPLIT MYSELF IN TWO
>*cough cough* I'm running out of time
>"I'm but two days old"
>"This is my last request"
>Vergil appearing in a beam of blue light as V's life expires
>The reason mission 17 is called back to life is because Vergil is resurrected through Urizen's power and V's death with the demon fruit
I mean the passing of the torch to nero had to happen one day
IF YOU HAD TO ASK IT'S TOO LATE
Vergil won't be playable. Get over it.
I'm a bit confused did Urizen start the demon fruit contest or is he a part of the compeition?
>HAD
TO CUT SHIT
NOT TO TRANSFORM VERGIL INTO A FAGGOT
LIKE WHAT THE FUCK WHY WOULD HE NOT TELL DANTE
But V is Vergil
NO WAY FAG
Many people suspected this from the beginning though and the original real leak even said V was Vergil.
Just wanted you to check them
Maybe not on release, but definitely as a DLC story pack
>we all thought the original leak was just mistaken
>it was 100% correct all along
I think he is part, Goliath does mention "I can't let him get the fruit"
>he came back to life again
can anything kill this man, seriously
boards.fireden.net
>March 8th of last year
>barely any DMC discussion on that day
MOMMY
just wait for leakers there sure to be some soon jesus
Anyone else get Nier vibes from that emotion song in the trailer?
Also when the hell are they going to release that song
>WARNING! Spoilers ahead, though they may be very motivating…
Those cheeky cunts. I didn't read the description of the trailer until now.
REALSHIT
>Dante dies
>You will cry like a bitch
>Like a bitch
Theoretically speaking what would be the fairest way to do a steam copy giveaway on here? Maybe have people reply to a post using names on their post, then putting them in a random number drawing?
All the other anons being nice in previous threads to poor anons has me in a comfy gift giving mood
Here's your Vergil bro
In case you haven't noticed the hilt of the sword is the talons on Sin DTs wings.
You're all wrong, DMC2 Trish is best Trish.
I don't give that much of a shit honestly, the game is super fun. That's the most important thing to me.
>inb4 it's not even out
The demo was fucking great.
She looks like an aunt of mine, wow
mark my words, the last chapter will be playing as vergil. He'll probally die doing it. But after that HARD MODE VERGIL ONLY BABYYYYYYf
You played the demo? Even if that is a quarter of the gameplay given, roughly five hours of it, that is still FAR better than most modern game releases. And that is only one portion of the content we are getting. Also, NO PAID DEMO, UNLIKE MGS'S GROUND ZERO BULLSHIT. That should have set the bar low for any MGS fan to begin with.
so then how the fuck did V get control of Griffon, Shadow, and Nightmare?
I guess steamgifts?
Your idea would be the best yea, and based, i already have DMC5 but glad you are spreading the hype
We got playable (V)ergil
Email maybe? I'll give it a shot in the dark
[email protected]
>secret
They have a few drinks together when he was Nelo
I WANT TO LIFT HIS COAT'S FLAP AND SEE HIS CUTE BUTT
>Itsuno said that V's execution animations get "more interesting" later in the game
>tfw V starts temporarily turning into Vergil during them
>Dante's 'last' game
>Becomes DLC from now on
>KNOWS WHAT HAPPENED IN 3
>I KNOW HOW STUBBORN YOU CAN BE
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
>BROTHERS IN THE DARK
>FIGHT FOR YOUR LIFE
>FIGHT
>FOR
>YOUR
>LIFEEEEE
Now, what could possible V mean by this?
I personally have no idea.
well at least v is not sparda
They said they're making a game that not even the fans will expect
>secret weapons
that should make up for lost alt costumes. I'm satisfied now
someone post the edit of the trailer an user made where vergil's theme plays at the end
IT
DONT
MAKE
SENSE
WHY WOULD V NOT TELL DANTE HIS VERGIL?
WHY WOULD VERGIL TRANSFORM HIMSELF INTO A FAGGOTH
THIS IS NOT TRUE I REFUSE TO BELIEVE THIS SHIT I WILL ONLY BELIEVE WHEN I PLAY THE FUCKING GAME AND SEE WITH MY OWN EYES
>V will start using different taunts as the game progresses
>towards the end you hear him use SCUM
>face begins to crack shortly afterwards
That's what I did
Devil May Cry 6 when?
>inb4 2030
so v is now either the third son or virgil or moondust
>Griffon, Shadow and Nightmare become Vergil's devil arms
You now remember pic related.
they will remake 1, 2 and 3 first
then they will make DMC 0 aka Sparda musou game
then DMC6
I DON'T PLAY ACTION GAMES FOR CUTE WAIFUS THAT'S HOW I HAVE THE ABILITY TO NOT SPERG OUT
>god breaker...
Urizen is Vergil, V is a newcomer or Mundus but definitely not Vergil
Because Vergil is still the antagonist and won't have a redemption arc like many of us think.
V is Eva
I'm usually pretty broke but my financial system has (somewhat) stabilized for the financial wreck of a 21 year old I am, so I'm familiar with what it's like to not be able to afford a game you're hype for.
I just wish I could afford to get it for every user in the thread that can't afford it themselves.
Depends on how well-received DMC5 is. If it does well in regards to Capcom's other recent releases, it could be as soon as 2022.
that singer sounds so fucking familiar
he just turn his human side into a virgin and his demon side into a chad.
it's not that hard to understand
>She's actually Trish, not Eva
>She's actually talking to V as a kid, not Dante
>V is actually Vergil's human side reincarnated and in the end when you defeat ol' hand grabby Corrupted Vergil he will be whole again
>He names his last request, not because he's dying but because he knows he's a temporary existence
No 2030 is dragon dogmas 2
2045 is DMC6 after they release 3 more DMC pachislots
>SAVIOUR
"Might controls everything, and without strength, you cannot protect anything."
>BLOODSTAINED
"Must more blood be shed?"
>HELLFIRE
"It will be fun to fight with the Prince of Darkness."
>SHADOW
"I'm taking this back."
YOU CHEEKY MOTHERFUCKERS
pls be god hand
This party is about to get CRAZY!
Big N is getting ready to review bomb the game, and send death threats to Capcom.
B...BBB.UUUT... BAYONETTA!?
POST YFW
>Urizen and Mundus are related
>The Tree is making 2 fruits
>V steals one of them while the other one goes to mundus through a demon portal
>Vergil appears at the end of mission 17
>Missions 18-20 are Vergil going through the portal to the Demon world and culminates with a rematch vs Mundus
Fucking reddit tier crap right here, kis
>Vergil Judgement Cut himself
Holy fuck how much motivation can one man have?
if DMCV really kills off Dante & Vergil it might as well be the final game, just reset it and put the next game later in the timeline with nero where dante was in dmc4
Right there with you brother
>Mission 17 trophy, Return to Life
>Mission 18 trophy, Man on a Mission
>execution mechanic sticks around after V turns back into Vergil
>Get to play as Vergil vs Mundus in mission 20 and finally end it, once and for all
This is also why the alt ending exists with killing Urizen in the Prologue. It was too early and Vergil dies.
Damn I wanna fuck her
...
in dmc4 is there anyway i can remap the controls to make back + lock on do split like in the demo?
>GAMES ALMOST RELEASED AND ALL THESE THREADS FILLED TO THE BRIM
>havent touched these threads since the start of the month till now
You guys are just ruining the experience for yourselves.
Fuckers have the impulse control of women
>SAVIOR
>BLOODSTAIN
>HELLFIRE
>SHADOW
>HEAVEN ON A LANDSLIDE
V is going to die bleeding out, with fatto catto next to him in the underworld as the area he's in falls apart and has a heavenly look to it.
isn't kyrie?
Meh, I'll wait for Bayo.
Kamiya is the REAL DEAL, and Nintendo best.
v is gene!!!1!!
People have proven a million different ways how Vergil is Urizen including the fact that it's just his DT wrapped in the tree and that when you pitch shift his dialogue it's obviously Vergil's voice actor. Just like when people realized that Kiefer was the medic in Ground Zeroes
Nero still feels absolutely new to me.
It's kind of strange I knew the guy for 11 years now, even tho I feel like we just met.
>final summon for V is Vergil
Game of the Forever
>20 missions
>6 Dante missions
>6 Nero missions
>6 V missions
>2 Vergil missions
I don't think so
Because Vergil didn't want to create V, he's just the residue.
>My mother groand! my father wept.
>Into the dangerous world I leapt:
>Helpless, naked, piping loud;
>Like a fiend hid in a cloud.
>her
>WHY WOULD VERGIL TRANSFORM HIMSELF INTO A FAGGOTH
He didn't do it because he wanted to you retard. Remember, "I'm running out of time".
>WHY WOULD V NOT TELL DANTE HIS VERGIL?
Because V has his own personality separate from Vergil. Maybe he doesn't have all the memories from Vergil, and even if he did that's not just some bombshell you casually drop
Not gonna lie, if he used Yamato two handed and started pulling out beefed up Nelo Angelo moves I'd be pretty fucking hype.
Bayonetta FTW.
Sorry So-Xb bros, but the real MVP is still cooking and will be dropping soon to 95 Meta. Deal with it.
Just my (real truth) opinion :)
Why doesn't (v)ergil want dante to exist?
Mom always loved him more, it's sibling jealousy
so "V" as we've known him up to this point is pretty much confirmed to effectively die now, right?
Fuck of nintendie.
I mean he really is, he didn't had much development in DMC4, he appears he is wondering wtf is going on, loses his chick, and tries to rescue her, it's nowhere near the development Dante got in 3
Most DMC players will buy Bayonetta, why are you trying to stir the pot where there is none
Already confirmed by producers that V does not get as many missions as Dante and Nero.
>QTEtta
No thanks.
V has the least amount of missions
And judging from the first half is full of Nero, he'll probably have the most missions
But V doesn't act like Vergil at all, Vergil likes to do some "goofy" stuff like sheathing his katana stylishly or spinning summoned sword on his finger but he would never tap dance, do air violin.
I figure that he is inside V but that V is more or less his own character
YOU CANNOT KILL ME
I can't see Capcom touching God Hand again. Not only was it a complete flop commercially but all the genius behind it left long ago while it did things no other game has done both before and since and it's way too politically incorrect for the current global market. It was a one-time masterpiece I can't see ever being repeated.
Ok DMC stories time
>Find out you can press start on a second controller to control the doppelganger in DMC3
>Go through the entire game with a friend using this
>ofw pressing start during mission 19
Most likely, I'll miss the weird little autistc goth desu
what if Vergil split himself to remove Mundus influence, only for Mundus to split off with the human influence.
NEW THREAD
NEW THREAD
NEW THREAD
NEW THREAD
no everything is still theory's apart from Vergil's ending who knows
>Implying you can do a Bayonetta vs DMC bait when both fans will buy and enjoy both games
This aint Dota and League of Legends fuck off
Yes, more then likely going to be the case. Goodbye third playstyle. Hello again old third playstyle.
>NO VERGIL WOULD NEVER TURN INTO A GOTH FAGGOT NO NO NO
El oh el also Bingo is a retard.
>V(ergil) had the chance to kill Dante and relented
REDEMPTION ARC INCOMING BOYS
>the reason V doesnt get as much missions is because he's vergil so we'll play him post game
Because easy bait
dubs
>Bayo3 announced a while ago
>no further news
>Platinum already announced another brand-new cuhrazee action game for Switch, with way more shown than Bayo 3
>rumors of Scalebound resurrected as a switch Exclusive, which Kamiya would probably personally oversee, Scalebound being his passion project
Things don't look too good for Bayo, to be desu.
And you have fun waiting while we play DMC5 and enjoy it next week. Sorry your mommy didn't get you another console, sweatie. :) :) :)
He's almost never wanted to kill Dante. If he didn't care about him, he wouldn't have cut his hand as a gesture to let him go.
I want V's playstyle to stick around instead of going back to Vergil's
ME?
I'M ALREADY HALF VERGIL
Do people actually think Vergil isn't Urizen and he isn't the main villain?
V is Sparda