What went both wrong and right?
What went both wrong and right?
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>right
Cars that handle like real cars.
>wrong
Player characters that handle like cars.
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>Cars that handle like real cars
bro I daily a shitbox golf mk4 and it handles way more precisely than the fucking infernuses and comets in gta4
I like the weight the cars have to them but most of them have the runing radius of fucking 70s wagons
That's mostly because steering is limited to 15°. Any higher and the cars will be uncontrollably twitchy on gamepads and keyboards.
Does IV still runs like shit? How about Liberty Stories one? This thread made me want to play it again
Will there ever be another GTA game as good as San Andreas?
>right
The atmosphere and the characters
>wrong
Literally everything else
>does iv still runs like shit?
what do you mean
it sure does
for a while people were hoping it would get ported to whatever version of rage gta v runs on but it's clear rockstar doesn't give a fuck
hell the only patch they released somewhat recently was to remove like half of the soundtrack
I've heard it runs worse than GTA V
>Does IV still runs like shit?
Nigga, it doesn't run for most people and it is a pain to get it to work and even still after all of that it lags like shit
turn down your view distance
Soul.
Still runs like crap, turn the sliders values to like 20 and it'll boost performance. They probably wont patch the game to run better.
Less interesting ways to goof off for fun.
>golf mk4
Nice
Christ this game aged so poorly.
>1280x1024
I respect your hustle op
I smoke cuz it givez me nawledge
absolutely
I played it when they announced gta 5 was coming to pc, and it was unstable on the 4770k gtx 760 i had then
I was worried 5 would be running at a silky smooth 25 fps on low because of it yet it I could play it almost maxed out with 4x msaa while gta 4 dipped into 40fps territories with all the distance sliders below 50
I sure could go for some Mr. Whoopee!
these screenshots are old man,check the date
I'd still use a 4:3 but no games support it no more plus widescreen is objectively better so yeah
Btw 1280x1024 is 5:4 not 4:3
Sincerely /g/
>driving at night
>Zelenoglasnoye Taksi starts playing
1280x1024 is kino
If actual cars would have that much body roll, everyone who drives would end up with seasickness. You idiots can't really think that in reality all cars have as much lean in them like american landyachts.
And what is amazing is that GTA V managed to make cars handle like arcade racers and GTA IV managed to make cars handle like fucking boats.
The only open world game with proper driving physics is Mafia 2. So no, your opinion is absolute and total fucking garbage.
>more time has passed between now and GTA V than the time gap between GTA IV and V
Mafia 2 is to underappreciated, it makes me sad.
its literally the polar opposite of cinematic
>less customisation from SA
>less things to do
>less guns
>less map variation
>car driving is a tossup depending on tastes
>addition of friend system
>some missions have multiple scripted approaches
>gunplay's alright
>cool physics
>characters' alright
k i n o
I was expecting to be trolled but you're actually right, what the fuck.
Great atmosphere. Felt like a scorsese somewhat. Really captured that cinematic New York vibe.
Also the shooting felt very impactful i cant place my finger on why but shootouts were really fun.
Interesting and memorable characters
Interesting enough levels designs story was ok nothing special
speaking of it, I got old screens of itt
only in old games, modern ones dont support and if they do they letterbox the cutscenes and the hud looks fucked amongst other things
>gta4 is bad because it isn't realistic
>but GTA5 is good because it isn't realistic
I think GTA IV’s a pretty cool guy. Eh goes bowling with his cousin and doesn’t afraid of anything
>>but GTA5 is good because it isn't realistic
He didn't say that..
also, I'd say mafia 2 is overrated as hell
first one was much better
You did pick your cousin over the girl, did you Yea Forums? Blood is thicker than water, after all.
microtransactions keeping that garbage alive far longer than it has any right to.
I’d kill for a new version of GTA IV that fixes the fucked up car physics and freshens up the graphics just a small bit, that also doesn’t run like fucking trash on an FX 4350 and a GTX 570
Never much cared for IV but I'd still love to see a remaster. Every single version of that game runs like absolute shit.
My cousin would've wanted me to get the full American titties though
The cars didnt handle like real cars but the exagerated handling felt cool especially during chases. It gave that cinematic hollywood car chase vibe rather than simulation driving
Driving in gta5 was incredibly boring
this
gta 4 on the 5 engine and saints row 2 on whatever fucking engine sr3 and 4 used would be great
I get rockstar are swimming in money and dont need to give a shit but why the fuck doesnt the company that has the rights to saints row do it? it would be fucking flying off the shelves
Yep, and I got a beast of a pc
If you follow Roman's advice he gets killed, if you follow katies advice she dies instead.
The car physics was one of the best things about it. They could tone it down by a fraction maybe but the exagerated movents were actually fun when you got the hand of it and it looks cool as shit
I'd take a remaster of this and Midnight Club 3.
looking in my mirror not a zoomer in sight
and everything is alright
i got a beep from kate and she can fuck all night
Are you trying to imply arcadeish driving is supposed to be good? Get a load of this boomer fag. Go play some Outrun or something you fat fuck.
>Golf Mk4
>Shitbox
Ok nigger.
The CIA arc was great. Taking out lone npcs like some slick governement assassin was so satisfying
>It gave that cinematic hollywood car chase vibe rather than simulation driving
yeah bro look at this exciting chase with cars skidding like they're on ice at 30mph,truly the pinacle of action
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Well it seems Mafia 2 was supposed to be way better but got gimped to fuck but it sure as hell is not overrated. But yeah, the first mafia was insanely good for its time and way better than Mafia 2.
It's from fucking 98 and has 500.000km on it as well as a few dents
I got it for free last year so I cant complain though its very fun to drive and as I said it handles better than the supercars in gta 4 despite the brakes being used to shit
it's fun, i'm sorry you crash too much to enjoy it, but if you keep at it you'll learn to swerve through traffic like in the movies
Even my shitty 1989 Corolla station wagon handles better than 99% of the cars in IV which is really funny
>One of the most iconic vehicles were the German car industry and VW werent poisoned by Merkel, non domestic production, slavs, mexicans etc
>Bad because of it's reliability
Ok
why does that viper drive like a faster '68 chevy caprice?
This shit is so satisfying because in GTA4 there is also this thing called CRASHING and not just toy cars bumping into each other.
Because it's fun
i'm not sure they can even be called microtransactions at this point, prices are so inflated now you need to spend at least as much as the base game's cost to be able to afford anything
i honestly have no clue how this model works so well for rockstar or what kind of people actually buy shark cards
>i honestly have no clue how this model works so well for rockstar or what kind of people actually buy shark cards
the same people who buy Sims expansions and pour money into mobile games
I liked how the fucking fov or whatever the fuck changed so when you panned the camera down look at buildings they seemed taller
What is this soulless shit? No respect for the hood.
I feel like its modded as hell
>Right
Was actually Good Game
>Wrong
The fucking PC Port was broken as fuck, The Console version looked like dogshit
Only the mods to make it more like the PS2 version.
did someone say SOUL?
why does it have fucking scanlines then
>2019
>not modding the handling
I hope you guys don't do this
is there a fix for the mouse bug on modern PCs yet?
What bug is that? I use controller but even that needed a mod to make it work properly like the PS2 version since vanilla controller is fucked.
just pause and unpause bro
Use a controller.
it always unfucks it for me when i do that
silentpatch fixes it
I use one only for flying. I prefer kb/m
GTA 3 has my favourite hud and ui of all the GTA games.
>The blood of the covenant is thicker than the water of the womb.
That quote literally means the opposite of how people use it.
>That bug on PC on the final mission where you couldn't climb into the helicopter
>No matter how well I did it never registered
>Had to fucking download FRAPS and record so it would let me climb up
Shittiest of shit ports
>Blood is thicker than water is an ancient and famous English proverb that means that familial bonds will always be stronger than bonds of friendship or love.
>Some linguists believe that the saying is mistranslated, instead meaning the opposite.
Thanks for your interpretation
>punching 20+ cabs and watching chaos happen
that doesn't make it a bad port. that's exactly how it was on console.
Story was dull. It was way too grounded. Took itself too seriously. Not enough side content. Not enough fun weapons.
TBoGT addressed a lot of this.
STUPID MALAKA!
>not enough side content
gta4 had a fair bit of side content, you probably just missed it because you skipped over everything and need map markers to tell you where things are
>not enough fun weapons
gta never had fun weapons, the shotguns in gta4 is the series peak in weapons
>took itself too seriously
???
you sound like someone who thinks trevor in gta5 is the pinnacle of videogame writing
>right
Soundtrack, atmosphere, surroundings and driving was fun for me
>wrong
Bowling with Roman and dating Michelle. Also story was too serious (fortunately it was still interesting to follow it).
I prefer GTA III and Vice City over San Andreas
if it's about 3D universe.
This happened to me in 2012 when I upgraded from shitty C2D box to an i5 based one.
I sloved this problem by entering my task manager and limiting CPU cores available for GTAIV.exe to 2 from 4.
If you want to play 3D universe on modern computers then install some mods: silentpatch, widescreen fix, some hd textures and stuff.
Here's guide for SA: steamcommunity.com
Yes! Pic related.
some game
HAVER MPM88 4MTNF
Basically unplayable on release PC port and R* patched out a bunch of songs recently.
>right
physics
>wrong
the rest of the whole god damn game
>TBoGT addressed a lot of this.
It was fun, but that one mission when you had to seal a Helicopter from an yaht for Yusuf made me insane back in the days.
Also speaking of EFLC, Lost and Damned was shit and nothing can fix it, nothing. Driving that bike was just retarded. You had to try so hard to fell of from it...
Trever was too over the top.
DESU, I wish Rockstar would find a happy balance between VC and SA's writing with VI.
Well said.
>helicopter mission
So you played 4/eflc before SA?
Can’t play it on mondern pc
Can barely play it on any PC for that matter
Nah. I've played SA before but I've finished it only once. Back in the days my computer was to slow to run GTA:SA so I played III and VC over and over and over again. When I got a new one, I just moved forward and played GTA IV and EFLC and tried some other games.
Also I am bad at flying in GTA games so I often use controller to make it more fun and easier for myself.
What the fuck car do you drive??
I preferred GTA 4's story over all of the rest.
It was R*'s attempt at a mature game for mature gaymers and I liked it. Wish they had used that formula for GTA 5 instead of going full satire filled with gay millennial bullshit.
Spot fuckin on. My head canon was Niko was perpetually buzzed.
then the white boy had me on crystal meth
the car body rolling was overdone, but it certainly beats the no-roll super-traction aracade shit in gta v
>making your final stand inside the hospital
i miss that
I've played all of these but never anything past it. Should I bother with IV & V?
Sure, they're still fun games even with all the flaws.
If you're not bothered about story then play Ballad of Gay Tony over normal GTA IV.
Play GTA IV, TBoGT and V. They're still fun games with good music and stuff to mess with!
Might as well play the lot if I have the opportunity.
>play gta online
>doing car missions for online
>put radio to pass the time
>mfw
there's roundabout, i don't care anymore, shadows of the night and that's that, everything else is unlistenable
yeah, even the worst gta game, whichever you may think that is better than fuckin trash like watch dogs saints row 3 just cause or fuckin mafia 3
Why did they remove rampage pickups after Vice City? It was a lot more fun exploring when you could be rewarded with discovering a rampage.
Before anyone say it, no GTA5 doesn't have rampages. Those "rampage missions" aren't the same thing.
I full well realise GTA IV's radio was just utterly fucking amazing, and that it'd be hard to follow; but V dropped the ball so fucking goddamn hard it hurts.
I hadn't even realised that.
aww yeah
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I always just chose between the rock radio, the pop radio, el sonidito and sometimes that one electronic music station.
And even then, there are sometimes that there's awful shit in every single one of them.
And the talk shows are always super exaggerated millennial issues or "satire" that's so in your face that it simply isn't funny.
Haha ironic commercials about how shallow American society is! So funny! It would be even better if IT WASN'T THE ONLY FUCKING THING THE GAME TALKS ABOUT.
>4:3
soul
>16:9
soulless
No blaxsplotation themes
Everything else is irrelevant
Liberty City Stories and Vice City Stories have rampages and those came after San Andreas.
It runs at 25+ fps on i3-4150's integrated graphics with low-medium 720p settings, so I'd say it should run decently if you've got an actual gaming setup.
gta v has amazing soul and funk radio stations
why is 80's pop music now praised when it has been considered trash for decades?
gta sa has co-op rampages on ps2
GTA 4 had one major flaw: it was still GTA game with all the same designe flaws but with a better written story. And that story conflicted with traditional GTA gameplay. They really need to rethink their approach to designing games.
>Golf Mk4
nice
>t. '98 Mini Cooper owner
>Those "rampage missions" aren't the same thing
Because?
there's like 5 of them and they have a gay little wacky cutscene behind them. vice city stories has 35 rampages alone.
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>But what you don't know, is that you are focused too much on the past. Saying things were better in the old days. They were not! Take everything in your house, and throw it away. Now, the most important piece of furniture in a house is the garbage can. Especially in your house. Andy, in life you are supposed to do. Not to remember what you did. This is very helpful in paternity cases as well. Welcome to The Studio! Do you remember anything I just said? I hope not, because that's all over now; carry on!
Based Karl
>opinion
>quantity
Where's "they don't count because argument_mentioning_gameplay"?
because gta v bad
Did this dude know that one of the main points of GTA games is to make fun of people like him?
RIP :(
>passive agressive because he's been told the truth about nostalgia
If you cannot see the irony in what he delivered in GTAIV, I'm not sure you know.
>Dropping truth bombs on children is being made fun of
uh okay
right
>comfy as fuck
wrong
>kinda clunky handling
no that's not the reason... stop assuming any complaints are just because "gta5 bad"
because they are marked on the map and there are not that many of them and you can't do them with any character.
while im at it i'd like to also say that adding GPS to the game was a mistake. following the line on the minimap takes away something important.
Best GTA after all the classic ones. Sums up 2007 perfectly.
I was talking about him as a person, not about that particular line.
There's always commentary on the obsession with vanity in GTA games, which is what that dude was all about.
They also don't play like the rampages from the originals. In the originals there were all kinds of rampages you had to do in certain ways, like drive by a certain amount of people, run over a certain amount of people, headshot this many enemies with a sniper rifle etc. While in GTA V all 5 of them are "shoot the unlimited waves of spawning aggro-ed enemies til the time limit runs out."
gta iv had soul, gta v has none, it's the very thing it tries so hard to parody
>inb4 that was the point
It's set in 2008, but yeah.
I'm sure he knew exactly what was going on. Read some stuff about karl. He was profound as fuck.
>Pleb tier
Liberty Rock Radio
Vladivostok FM
>You have okay taste tier
The Journey (but purely for Oxygene part 4)
>The actual decent radio stations tier
Radio Broker
Electro-Choc
after V came out i thought 'ah GTA VI will probably come out in like 2018, that's so unfathomably far away it's not even worth thinking about'
even if it was announced next year for a 2022 release, it'll have been as long as the gap between san andreas and V
>that vice city rampage on the roof of escobar international where you just rocket everything
original GTA IV didn't have any reference to the recession so yeah it's set in 2008 but feels like 2007
in TBOGT they talk about the recession tho
You can always turn off GPS
>fashion designer
>"would marry his cat if he could"
>didn't like big ass titties
>claimed his controversial persona was an act
I bet he was
>mfw Vladivostok in TBOGT
DANCE
DANCE
DANCE
Do you want some crazy probably coincidental but knowing Rockstar probably not coincidence information?
Boys Noize - & Down is a reworking of his remix of Shiny Toy Guns - Le Disko (youtube.com
Shiny Toy Guns features Slyder on the keyboards, who is known for producing most of the songs on RISE FM in GTA3 including Neo (The One)
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an option to cripple yourself doesn't count, the game is designed around having GPS on and you certainly must judge a game on its intended gameplay design
>turn off the GPS radar
>turn on the car voice GPS on all vehicles in the menu
>?????
>profit
I've beaten the game this way. Firefights are also much more intense with the radar removed.
I like the fact that you like two stations that are absolutely great; but other songs from The Journey are absolutely fantastic, the studio is the only consistently great station between IV and EFLC, and even the beat has amazing fucking bangers actually pertaining to the area LC was modeled after.
hey i remember that
i also remember discovering the RPG in the swimming pool in the hotel near the airport on the very last loading i did of the game, after all missions were finished and before i stopped playing. damn it, would have been useful early game.
yes it's cool that the option to cripple yourself is there but it's not the intended default
>cripple yourself
Literally get good.
>when you find the vibrator in Bayside on San Andreas
If there was no option to turn it off then it would be intended gameplay design, now stop nitpicking like a faggot because you want to push your NEWGAMEBAD mindset onto everyone and turn off GPS if you like playing the game without GPS
it is an option to cripple yourself? like if you had an option to double all the damage you take you also cripple yourself by enabling it.
how about no, a game is designed surrounding its default options.
>if a game gets shitty reviews you think the game designers can defend it by saying that there are options in the settings that fixes the problems
I used to watch this video every day
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more like luck montage =P
fact GTA 4 has the most soulful graphics of all time
>i hate [game mechanic] and I wish it wasn't there
>good news, you can remove it in the options!
>NOPE DOESN'T COUNT
every goddamn time
>game is designed surrounding its default options
This is the dumbest shit I've heard today. Game allows UI customisation and you just go "hurr durr doesn't count", it's fucking designed with every option in mind on or off.
>the game is designed around having GPS
Source: my ass
>a game is designed surrounding its default options.
>options
nigger do you not understand what options mean? there's no "intended" way of playing the game, they give you options because they know every person is different, some may like radar, others may not, some may like metric measurements, other imperial. you can't whine about something being in the game when you can remove it. there's no reason why you can;t just turn off radar, the fact that the game gives you the ability to do that means it's an intended OPTION. retard.
>then
>open map, learn it and drive
>now
>turn off gps, open map, learn it and drive
NEW GAME BAD.
>Sleep mode
Was this a thingor is it a well meant shoop?
I still remember that cousing wanting to go bowling ALL the time and be mad if I decline. That was so interfering.
Roman's death is more tragic IMO and leaves that bitter taste in ones mouth, so I would say Roman is better.
no it doesnt
yeah it goes well over 100fps but you might turn around and have it dip to 40s, all over the damn place
t, gtx 1070 owner
Yes, it's an option in the ingame phone. They literally tell you about it in the display at the top in the first few missions, shortly after Roman gives you the phone.
Just got a PC with R5 2600 and GTX1060, but i gonna play this shit my old PS3
roman surviving is canon though
True, but I agree with the other guy that Roman dying is a much more somber ending and fitting with the theme of GTAIV and Niko losing the last shred of happiness or family that he truly had as Kate then refuses to talk/date him after Roman's death.
But yeah glad he's still alive as fuck that frigid cunt. At least her death gave Packie nothing to stay in LC for.
Bikes in 4 are trash.
source?
>a game is designed surrounding its default options.
So you're saying AC is designed around novice controls?
>People actually chose to work with Dimitri instead of revenge
his kikebook parody profile can be seen on pc's in gta 5
this shit can't be real, right?
Franklin's brother tweets about getting a ride in Roman's taxi.
Roman/Niko comment on eachothers 'Facebook'
Packie left LC because all of his family died and he had nothing left to stay there for.
Whoops, I mean Franklin's cousin.
>I like the weight the cars have to them
Precisely. Feeling the weight of a car was fantastic, even if it was indeed boat-like due to the turning radius. It really reminded me of those huge Cadillacs and Lincolns from the 60-70s.
The only open world game with proper driving physics is Mafia 2.
I'm admittedly not much of an /o/ guy but Mafia 2 felt accurate above all. You could still feel the weight (albeit to less extent than GTAIV), but going slightly faster and fucking up the optimal curve always landed you in the pavement.
>ran like shit on pc, everyone went apeshit
>ran like shit on consoles, no one gave a shit
Soul as fuck
running motherfuckers over was algo great,you could really feel the impact
in gta 5 it feels you're hitting malnourished cambodians, just a small thud and the way the ragdoll also aint as satisfying
almost every aaa console game ran like shit
>Vladivostok FM
>Pleb tier
Get a load of this pidor
this
vladivostok is so good they have a band who's literally named kino play a god tier song on it
and lets not forget the eurovision winning song in ukrainian too, fucking wonderful soundtrack all around in gta4, even on the fucking rap stations there's stilll plenty of good songs
this was all i did in gta online for like 50 hours, occasionally picking someone else up for the ride, or letting them drive my zanmato or whatever the fk it's called
Nigga, both versions of Vladivostok FM are a godsend. Each of them fits perfectly for games they appear in.
Same
easter egg
>Franklin's brother tweets about getting a ride in Roman's taxi.
easter egg
>Roman/Niko comment on eachothers 'Facebook'
easter egg
>Packie left LC because all of his family died and he had nothing left to stay there for.
When does he say every single member of his family died? We know Gerald is imprisoned, and either Derrick or Francis are dead.
Who /VCS/ here?
TURN UP THE RADIO
>when egyptian lover is on fresh 105
VCS V-Rock is best V-Rock.
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You heard correctly. It's a sick world we live in.
>tfw little niece is growing up playing VCS on my PSP
LEARN IT, KNOW IT, LOVE IT, LIVE IT. COUZIN ED HERE, I'M THE COUSIN YOU CAN SLEEP WITH AND TELL YOUR MOM. HELL BRING HER TOO, I'VE PROBABLY HAD HER ANYWAY.
[Queensryche intensifies]
emotion was also better in VCS
Ed > LazLOW
Overall I prefer V but the shooting in IV is just too good, only complaint is that it's not gory enough. V's weapons feel like toys in comparison.
4 yes but not 5
>tfw experienced the pleasure of owning LCS for the PS2 in its single-digit fps glory
Was it that bad? I barely remember ps2 VCS.
I've only played LCS on the psp with CWcheat to get the dodo and fly around
PS2 VCS has serious pop-up issues. You can tell they were pushing the console as far as it could go.
i listened to the original le disko and the song from gta4 so much but never heard this one, this is really cool thanks for sharing user
>running motherfuckers over was algo great,you could really feel the impact
>mfw now you remember to all those Euphoria tech demos from 10 years ago
Worst post. The driving was shit, like nobody in Liberty City changes their fucking tires.
GTA4 looks infinitely better if you add some color through ENB. It was a product of a bygone era where every game that tried to be realistic slapped a gray or brown filter on their game and called it a day.
take taxis then if you struggle to drive
>Liberty City
>colours
my man over here missing the point
>gta 4 came out 11 years ago
I kind of liked how dull the colors were, fit the narrative and gave Not-Times-Square more of a 'wow' factor with how colorful it was. The tone of the game would be a lot different if it was as bright and full of sunshine like GTA 5, for example.
Same goes for GTA III & LCS
enbs are pretty tasteless
All the magic of Libery City lies in dark colors and somewhat d epressing atmosphere.
Maybe, but if something is intentionally unappealing, it's still unappealing.
and it still runs just as shit as it did then
For me it was appealing af.
how was it unappealing
"brownanbloom" used to be a meme for a reason.
when you put it like that, no wonder
'nuh huh easter egg only, non canon!!!!1'
kys
>GTA IV is now beloved on Yea Forums
This always makes me smile, back when IV came out everyone shat on it for years for it not being SA until GTA V came out and now everyone shits on GTA V and loves IV.
until VI ofc
It will be even worse, people will say GTA VI online is shit and demand GTA V online legacy servers.
>OLD GOOD NEW BAD
Fuck off I always loved IV, and most people I know did too because of the realism and storyline, go suck a dick with your misinformation
I liked GTA IV too , Niko is the best GTA protag.
I missed all the cool extra shit from SA like flying planes but GTA IV was still a solid game.
Yea Forums shat on it on every thread because it was not SA until GTA V came and now the threads about the game are all positive while shitting on GTA V.
GTA is like the Zelda series.
>Current game bad.
>Previous entry in series good.
>Punch guy behind cops
>Guy pulls out gun and starts shooting at me
>Cop gets into shootout
>More pedestrians and cops start firing at each other
Fun game
online was fun way better than fucking 5
i enjoyed it more than 5
finished it 3 times.
5's online is a fucking mess
>GTA IV love thread
>no mentions for Lost & Damned
Wasn't as great as TBoGT, but I've always liked riding motorcycles in GTA games, and that expack delivered in spades for that.
it was great, and seeing Trevor beating Johnny easily was dissapoiting
kek i love doing that, mostly when its on a street with bikers carrying shotguns
V was such a disappointment compared to IV
Why did they change how the cars worked in IV??? It was literally almost perfect
Focused too much on technology and stuff.
Thus had little or nothing to do outside of missions