DISSIDIA FINAL FANTASY COMES TO STEAM IN 12 DAYS

i have 500 hours on both psp games and ths dissidia sucks and i can't even enjoy the jump to psp graphics to ps4 graphics. because i am force to watch as something i love get fucked by other people, i call it...

Dissidia NT R

How the fuck did they manage to fuck dissidia when all they need for a hit was iterate on duodecim?

The game also isn't fun. The 3 man combat isn't as exciting as they think it is and it was better when it was just you and someone else having a 1v1 duel. Plus the new music sucks ass.

>Plus the new music sucks ass
I'm gonna have to stop you right there user

>f2p
wait, nani?

>no autistic genius ever managed to crack open 012 enough so actually new stuff could be added
>it will never become the 3d mugen
>we will never get Dissidia SaltyBet

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Thanks for betatesting, PSPfags

This game is nothing like the PSP games, you can have it.

not to mention the customizable move sets are gone and only one HP attack is fucking unacceptable

>NT
>Not the PSP games
You can keep it.

No story mode, and rotating 4 characters weekly out of 28

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basically a glorified demo. Nobody is gonna play that.

There is a standard edition and season pass to buy as well, it's not locked to the F2P version

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i hope so, you could do it in DoA5

Game is on life support on ps4 enjoy lmao.

Is this that action game that was on psp?

since this is Dissidia thread, how do I mod characters on PSP version? I want my cute mordred

You mean ps4fags
Dissida Duodecim is still the patricians choice and only available on the psp (or ppsspp) forever.

GreenLuma Reborn with -NoHook might be enough and it's a cleaner solution.

All I want out of Dissidia is a Soulcalibur clone

Dissidia games are the epitome of "if the characters weren't famous nobody would give a single one solitary shit about these".

Seriously the games themselves are dogshit

> How the fuck did SEGA manage to fuck Sonic when all they need for a hit is to iterate over Sonic 3 for 2D and Adventure for 3D

I dunno, user. Companies are retarded.

Ick. Go and stay go

OH NO NO NO
IT'S NOT FAIR SONY BROS

By copy pasting your question to the Google search bar.

Isn't NT the latest one that no one likes?

Dissidia is rough but duodecim is legitimately fun.
>if your favorite characters weren't in it you would care less about it
Thanks for the super deep insight captain obvious

WHERE THE FUCK IS THE STEAM VERSION OF FINAL FANTASY I AND II REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

I played the demo on PS4 and honestly hated it. Controls felt awful, UI was a clusterfuck, movesets were more limited than the PSP games, etc. Not really interested in playing it even if it's free. They should go back to the style of the PSP games but with better graphics and smoother controls (and remove that rock paper scissors air chase shit).

>peer-to-peer servers
>the laggiest person makes the entire game slow down
not even worth downloading for free.

Correct. It's played a bunch at the arcades in Japan land but people wanted another Duodecim with tons of customization and extensive single player content. Instead we get notGundam Versus

>Dissidia New Trash
AHAHAHA OH NO NO NO, LOOKING TO SALVAGE SALES, BAD GAME?

I've done that user, I only found how to make mods in their forum instead

>worse than the psp games
>somehow worse than Gundam Versus

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>NT
I was hype for a second. OG Dissidia and Duodecim are way way better. Duodecim would probably get a large and stable playerbase if they relaunched it on steam at $20-25 with online.

Who thought it was a good idea to put grinding bullshit in a fighting game? Customizing your moveset is cool but fuck grinding for XP, AP and items.

Post a /wishlist/ character, Yea Forums.

Starting with an easy one.

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>PSPfags
PS4fags. The Chad PSP players got a literal 9/10 GOTY while the PS4 players got a 3/10 sequel.

Dissidia has always been shit. Port FF Tactics.

>relaunched it
that would imply they even still have the source code. Square is notoriously bad about keeping shit that matters

>fighting game with a f2p model
Nice but is the game any good?

>talks about shit
>wants a game with level scaling randoms, no difficulty curve past halfway into the first act, and less choice than Tactics Ogre
epig
As a disclaimer I too have bad taste and like FFT for the pretty graphics and the feeling of being unkillable by merely putting armor on a monk

No. It wanted to try to become Extreme Vs, but ended up being worse.

I wouldn't care too much if they just borrowed the shell of PPSSPP and optimised it to be stable (if they lowered the price accordingly and streamlined it to not be visible to the player in any way). It's obviously not ideal but having it readily playable with online would still revive the playerbase. It still looks good at 1080p, it's not like it needs texture work or anything.

How would Delita skill-set even be? Wasn't his golden knight job in FFT was just pretty much toned down Agrias?

Make a sequel to tactics ogre

They ported it to mobile if that counts.

Literally the only people that play it are arcade retards that cling to those clunky ass modern Gundam vs Gundam games. It's fucking depressing how the Gundam Vs games used to be the best Gundam games years ago to some of the worst now.

They wanted Gundam Vs/E-sports money.

He would probably rip off TG Cid.

The connection to this game is awful have fun playing with third worlders turning the game into a fucking slide show.

The playerbase has gotten pretty small as shit and finding matches with anybody willing to go through the effort does indeed take way the fuck too long these days.

So I'm willing to take anything. At any rate, while it still looks great even at 1080p upscaling the voices are horrendously compressed. While the fans wouldn't give a fuck that shit would be shit on. And I get the feeling adding online would be a lot harder than we're considering.

its over bros. our store lost

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If it's a Final Fantasy game and it was ported to PC I'll throw money at it anyway

That's not happening. THe only reason they got the entire old team to remake LUCT was to add CODA, which even though it reads like bad fan fiction, DOES end the series.

No Vivi no buy.

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Just let Matsuno make FFT2. No Advanced shit, keep the tone and gameplay like FFT. It doesn't have to carry over any plot points (though it can make references).

based

FF9, 2 and 6 are the black sheep in Japan, accept it and move on

Wait why

>VI and IX black sheep
No wonder Minaba left Square Enix

Ok, I’ll move on by not buying it you fucking retard lmao

He's coming soon

Yeah online would have its own hurdles and would require new menus on top of the background stuff. At least lobbies would already be good to go if they can translate an emulated/adjusted version of ad hoc's rooms, but there's little chance of having ranked or skill-based matchmaking without a lot of work on their side.

I seriously fucking hope you didn't throw money at the Steam versions of V and VI.

Low sales and fans wanting more of FF7 and FF8 settings

Kek, that's the spirit, the whole reason they made it f2p and are porting it to everything is to salvage sales in the first place because NT is a shit game.

>VI
>black sheep

Just give me Tifa.

S-s-sorry user..

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Not him but people always forget that 9 only hit it's popularity half a decade ago.
On release the loading was horrendous, the pace was terrible, the game is linear as shit, there's no extra dungeons, hot-and-cold sucks shit, tetra master is a literal worse triple triad with RNG, and the final boss required an Ultimania to even be deciphered.

1. Cloud (6059 votes)
2. Sephiroth (3789 votes)
3. Tidus (2745 votes)
4. Yuna (2600 votes)
5. Squall (2561 votes)
6. Lightning (2215 votes)
7. Tifa (2150 votes)
8. Bartz (1471 votes)
9. Locke (1393 votes)
10. Noctis (1379 votes)
11. Auron (1370 votes)
12. Cecil (1362 votes)
13. Terra (1340 votes)
14. Zack Fair (1296 votes)
15. Zidane (1154 votes)

Anyways back to the topic at hand. Another rep from 9 WILL happen. But it's probably going to be an oddball like Quina and not literal "final fantasy archetypes the character" that Vivi and Steiner are

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This is what killed the game.

Imagine playing a third person smash with only a single move being able to push out your opponent and you get this fucked up version of Dissidia.

It's a disaster and should be avoided at any cost.

You better not be fucking lying to me m8.

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>Worst Dissida
No thanks

Work with your team to get the kill.
Vivi and Zack are coming soon

>Vivi and Zack are coming soon
Neat. What the fuck are they going to do with Zack

Any girl would do for me. Better if it's from the less popular entry like 2, 9, or even Type-0

>played Dissidia and Duodecim for easily 500+ hours each
>played NT for about 10 before immediately regretting wasting my money and never touching it again

How the fuck did they screw this series up so bad? I’ve been wanting a been Dissidia for years and then we get this bottom of the barrel trash

The devs said that they'll announce the next new character in March's stream, so it will be avaible around April. No new season pass though.

Gundam Vs has an e-sports scene?

Imagine playing the dissidia mobage
On top of still not being the dissidia that anybody wanted, the mountainous levels of gacha you had to go through to remain content made everybody I knew who did play eventually drop out one by one.
Man this fucking sucks.

What Team game doesnt?

>Rinoa
>no fucking Tifa
You couldn't pay me to play this

I actually kinda liked the interactions of some characters in Opera Omnia.

The game fucked up two things horribly.
1. Only one HP attack
2. Forced 3 vs 3, can't play 1 vs 1 outside of custom non-ranked mode that LITERALLY NOBODY plays (on PS4)

She's coming next season.

It annoys me LR sits after XIV for me and not after XIII-2.

That's fine and all, and I would be still playing if the game didn't feel like it was designed to do everything in its power to dig straight into your pocket.

neotokyo

>that LITERALLY NOBODY plays (on PS4)
Nobody plays 1v1 because the game is unbalanced as shit 1v1 and there are a small amount of literal unwinnable matchups based on character choice alone.
It's not like Duodecim where all you need to be competitive in every matchup excluding f.chaos is to know a few advanced movement techniques.

I honestly wonder if they just lost the source code for the PSP remakes because the mobile ports haven't been updated in like 6 years and have massive compatibility issues on modern iOS and Android versions.

>Game is so bad that there isn't even PS4 Wojak shitposting

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Also 1v1 is fucking boring since the game is geared for 3v3 ONRY, so everyone feels even more gimpy seeing them one on one

Direct said long ago he doesn't wanna make a 012 gameplay sequel and wanted something differant.

I don't know but a lot of people play it on arcades.

Even in 1v1 movement and attacking isn't as fluid and you can't even parry and shit. I know it's unfair to complain about fast dodges and parries because it's an arcade game but it was still a selling point of the originals.

Why did you reply to me when I wasn't even talking about Dissidia?

Marche

coz you're cute and gay

I had some fun in the beta. Not enough to buy.
Perhaps again with My Wife Shantotto, I'll give things a second try.

>clunky
Spotted the "muh realisim" gruntwank OYWfag.
The Gundam Versus titles are literally the best arena fighters on the market.
Even the recent PS4 version, for all its flaws, is still a mechanically solid game.

In jap arcades, yeah.
The western playerbase is split across multiple discords (there at least used to be one kinda centralized place, but the admin had a meltdown and nuked it, scattering everyone).
Like with most niche/poverty competitive games there's just not enough numbers to get a real scene going.

The story in Opera Omnia is not that bad, the cast is big and varied, the stamina bar is used only for specific farming missions and the gacha is only reserved for equipment, and even then the game throws resources at you like rain. For an F2P title, the game is extremely comfy and generous, the difficulty curve is soft as fuck.
Wanna talk about the real jewish bullshit? Charging 50 bucks to get a character costume since it's tied only to that tier of gem packs.

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Datamined info implies he and Zack will be the only new characters in the next round of DLC, with the rest being the leftover 012 characters.

Just popping in here to let you guys know that the """big""" surprise that Square Enix has at the end of Episode Ardyn is actually just Ardyn being added to Dissidia NT.
Feel free to screencap.

The game has gives you gems like candy. Ive been F2P and have several maxed out chatacters. Unless you are talking about the JP version.

No need to screencap as that's not true.

thats the fighting game with FF characters right?

it is, but you don't need to believe me, you'll see yourself.

I'm perfectly ok with this. Ardyn is my new favourite FF villain and has potential for a fun moveset, so hearing Darin's sexy voice again is fine by me.

The entire s2 roster is already known, user.

Is this the shitty fighting game or the shitty gacha game?

If it's the former I might check it out.

Nope, it's the arcade spinoff of the fighting game with FF characters.
Dissidia and Dissidia 012 are the fighting games.
NT is an arcade spinoff that's basically a reskin of the Gundam VS arcade games.
It plays nothing like Dissidia and Dissidia 012.

Ardyn isn't part of Season 2, he's a free update like Noctis.

shitty 3v3 fighting game

>he's a free update like Noctis.
You don't seem to understand. He flat out doesn't have a placeholder. While the entirety of the S2 roster does. And might I remind you, Noctis was dug out as well.

You're full of it, you spoony bard.

>The entire s2 roster is already known, user.

sauce? im curious

I don't care if you believe me or not, wait and see.

"fighting" game with Kingdom Hearts combat

As someone with no nostalgia for the battle sprites, I don't really see the problem with the steam version of V outside of the bulky, yet serviceable UI.

VI was an abomination though. Even the UI is fucked.

Source was a plebbit data miner who dug out literally everything in the lineup and confirmed the previous leaks.

Everything from Kam'lanaut to Noctis to fucking Snow was known way way way ahead of time.

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>"fighting" game with Kingdom Hearts combat
That would be Dissidia 1 and 012.
NT plays nothing like them or KH.

>was going to buy on ps4 but I decided to wait for it to release on PC so I didn't have to pay for PS+
Nice

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>The Gundam Versus titles are literally the best arena fighters on the market
Being the best arena fighter is like being the best MMO. The "best MMO in the genre" is like a 5/10 game, same with the shitty arena fighters.

As much as a big mess the game was, Type-0 girls are fuckable as hell and I'd take it.

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I guarantee you you've seen half of the girls in type 0 in an anime you've watched from 2008 onwards

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so wait, if im reading it right, s2 is:
Gilgamesh
Tifa
Zack
Laguna
Vivi
Prishe
Gabranth

7 characters, s1 was 6
also out of those 7, 5 are fucking returning characters

way to be a jew square judaix

that sucks

Ahem.
Fuck the gods.
Fuck the crystal.
AND FUCK SOMNUS

They really REALLY wanted to cash in on that Gundam dosh. Honestly no one would bat an eyelash if they kept the Gundam characters watered down for 3v3 and gave us old Dissidia for 1v1, but they couldn't even do that. Lets not even get started on the garbage starting roster and the content flow equivalent of a drippy faucet.

Sadly, the arcade version of the game is doing well enough for SE not to give a shit about console quality, so we may never see a return to old Dissidia.

Don't forget that they're increasing the time between releases too, because it wasn't slow enough already.

Neat. I'll probably grab the f2p version. I only play like 6 characters on the PS4 so the rotating roster doesn't affect me.

I'm inclined to believe the other user mentioning Ardyn because that leak was from June 2018 and Ardyn probably wasn't in the plans back then.
It also makes no sense to have 7 characters in a season pass and not 8.

thanks for beta testing niggershit faggot tranny

Yeah, this is what pisses me off the most. We already had to wait an year for 6 characters (at least half of wich were not impressive at all if you ask me) and now we have to wait even more.
To quote FFVII Machinabridged:
-"Dreams don't have expiration dates."
-"Life does."

I seriously hope this reinvigorates the game.

I really like it but some of the choices they made especially when it comes to matchmaking are fucking stupid.

Why are people saying it's only the F2P one?
Steam page explicitly says it has Standard and Deluxe options you can buy with Standard giving you the entire base roster and Deluxe giving you everything from Standard + Season Pass characters and weapons.

Correct. I'm only hoping Gilgamesh, Gabranth, or Laguna are first. Prishe is fine too.

>It also makes no sense to have 7 characters in a season pass and not 8.
A few things
Season 1 was 6 characters
Season 1 was announced when the game was launched on consoles on Jan 30th
They finally FINALLY released the last character in season 1 last month
Season 2 is 7 characters and they've stated the releasing of these characters will be slower

You're out of your mind if you think they're going to suddenly change up their release schedule to include that thing.

People are stupid.

I mean look how popular fortnite is.

They’re all stupid.

The community i follow is still active but i agree that this has to be the shot in the arm for the game, otherwise i can see Square dropping support before the end of the year.
How's the arcade version doing in the meantime, btw?

>I WANT A NEW DISSIDIA GAME AND HAVE IT COME TO PC!
Your wish is granted, it's now a low budget Gundam VS reskin that plays nothing like previous Dissidia games, with laughable roster and many of the characters from previous two games being locked behind DLC.

Who the fuck wished on a monkey paw?

what kind of game is this
does it play like the NSUNS games?

>How's the arcade version doing in the meantime, btw?
Comically well, as per usual. AFAIK it's finally dropped from the #1 spot a few months back. I haven't checked again sense.

Arcade is doing fine.

This particular one is a Gundam Versus reskin.
The original Dissidia and 012 on PSP are both much better games and play more like a more tactical Kingdom Hearts.
Dissidia 012 has everything from Dissidia 1 so you can safely emulate just 012 on PPSSPP.

>first one
No prishe no buy.

Here's an important question.
Does the PS4 version have crossplay with Arcade or are they separate in terms of online?
And will PC have crossplay with either or both of those?
Because I guarantee you the online will be DOA on PC unless it has crossplay.

Prishe is part of Season Pass 2.

This felt so unfun compared to 012, and I wanted to like it so much.

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>or are they seperate
They're separate and ps4 gets its dlc later than the arcade
>will PC have crossplay
It's Square. More than that. It's Square with a game on a Sony platform. The odds of that is nonexistent.

Then it makes sense that the game is still being supported, the assest used require minimal change and most of the budget has to go to the english voice acting.
Speaking of, i commend the game on the fact that they managed to bring back practically everyone who had a previous VA. Even Elijah Alexander for Vayne, iir the guy has no other videogame role in his resumée.
Makes me wonder if Gilgamesh will be voiced again by John DiMaggio this time around.

>practically everyone
This implies that some characters have new VAs, which ones?

Arcade and PS4 are seperate because AC gets new shit a month before NT.
Crossplay could be possible I guess since they've been doing PS x PC crossplay since FFXI, but I wouldn't get my hopes up for modern SE doing anything right.

Locke, Rinoa and Kam'lanaut, since they had none to begin with (they chose literal whos for them, btw).
Also technically Y'shtola since she's using her brt VA from Heavensward onward.

Shantotto has a new one as far as I know.
I quite like it though.

>HD ULTIMECIA AND CLOUD OF DARKNESS SFM PORN
>Dissidia NT Shiva porn

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No, Candi Milo voiced her also in the previous Dissidia games.

>Locke, Rinoa and Kam'lanaut, since they had none to begin with (they chose literal whos for them, btw).
Well newcomers having new VAs don't bother me.
Also "literally whos" are a good thing, I don't want cancer like Nolan North and Troy Baker.

Shame about Yshtola and Shantotto though.

Dissidia 012 is literally my favorite 3D fighting game.
It's so fucking good how could they fuck it up so fucking much jesus christ FUCK SQUEENIX

Emulated 012 with 60 FPS patch and high-res UI textures is pure kino.

For Y'shtola it's a bit complicated, the entire cast of XIV was completely replaced from Heavensward onward for some reason and replaced with brits. I don't mind it too much, but the shift is so jarring.

As for the new VA, i like them, and if it helps them expanding their carreer, the better. It worked for Ray Chase thanks to XV after all, now everyone want him.

a magical christmas
youtu.be/Ujg9LQISRGg?t=307

Well that's what you get for listening to western dubs, m8.

Knight Delita (Chapter 2-4) was Holy Knight. King Delita (only what, one cutscene?) had Dycedarg's skillset (Holy Knight + Divine Knight).

You forget that Final Fantasy always had "literally whos" as voice actors.
FF10 cast was literally whos.
FF7 were literally whos when they got VAs for Crisis Core/Advent Children/Dirge of Cerberus.
FF12 cast were literally whos.
FF13 cast were literally whos baring Troy Baker and Ali Hillis.
FF11 and 14 are literally whos.
FF15 were literally whos, even Darin de Paul who had history with WoW and SWTOR was basically a literally who until Ardyn gave him recognition.

Really? I swear she sounds a lot more high pitched and "squeakier" than her 012 voice.

Him winning as Cloud is surprising because Kefka counters Cloud pretty well.
Squall is the hard counter to Kefka.

Not him but she sounds the same to me. She did better on the laugh as well so credit where credit is due

True, in that sense Square is a big pushing force when it comes to giving recognition to english VA.
No wonder it wasn't included in the companies the VA strike aimed to.

Nevermind, just checked again, I'm retarded. King Delita had just Divine Knight skillset. Knight Delita also had Wish.

>Dissidia NT
>NT was for No Tifa edition
No interested until best girl. Fuck off.

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Unless I'm mistaken his Squall got eliminated early.
I was always a Garland guy myself. Something about his entire kit synced well with me

For me its Sephiroth due to his Iai Strike playstyle, he reminds me a lot of Vergil (but slower) and I love that.
I also like how he relies on proper timings for his brave attacks, you can't just mash or fire and forget.

Not only that, but its 3v3 only.

I remember when it wasn't out yet and I was checking it out with some beta/demo version and some character just had an awful moveset and I had no way to initiate a combo or land an HP attack. And I asked around and apparently that that type of character "requires" their team to set up for them so they can actually land their HP attacks. Like what a stupid fucking system, if I wanted to hate my team I'd play some LoL not a "fighter". I really enjoyed the PSP dissidia to, this was such a let down

Season Pass 2 has you covered.

>I also like how he relies on proper timings for his brave attacks
That was the reason I put Jecht as my anchor. I eventually dropped him way way way deep into my playing the game for Kuja because I kept dropping inputs when I broke my opponent and couldn't figure out a way to grind that like I grinded learning his inputs to begin with.

Can someone explain to me why they decided to change it so much when the original ones were perfect? All they had to do is update the graphics and new maps and new characters while keeping the formula the same, why did they do this?

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I hate the fact that they are all flying while fighting which was absolutely not the case in the original games. I'm sure it's because of Advent Children fights.

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Isn't greenluma already been proved risky and exposed? Dead by the deadlight already banned all players that used luma for the dlc while creamapi didn't because it was already blocked by EAC on boot because miss match on the steam_api.dll

Never liked Jceht but not because of the timings.
It's his complete lack of range and being over-reliant on Jecht-block that I'm not a fan of.

Because they outsourced NT to Koei Tecmo's Gundam Versus team.
Dissidia 1 and 012 were made by Kingdom Hearts' Tokyo Team.

>tfw played the demo, didn't have fun, never played again
>tfw may jump back in just to play Prishe when she comes out
I am a weak man.

They wanted those Gundam Versus dollars

Jecht Block is about the same in its use with normal block, more or less. It felt super satisfying to stuff shit as him, but without the feeling of having to spam teleports exdeath style to fakeout enemies.

Man now I'm getting nostalgic. It's been a little over 2 years since I've played against anybody. Well here's hoping Square gets an injection of money so they can make another one.

You got it, i specifically remember Nomura stating in interviews back when the first game was in development that AC combats were a huge inspiration for making the game.

if you have any brain you know that anything outside of the original numbered ff games is fanfic garbage at best so it shouldnt bother you that they are all now dragon ball z caricatures, its just milking and fanfics.

Does this game have anything to offer in a single player setting?

I can't be arsed to learn and get good at the multiplayer "team" shit. But I've seen this go as low as 20 bucks already. Is there enough fun to be had just playing through the story and fucking around vs the AI?

>I'm sure it's because of Advent Children fights.
Advent Children was literally THE main inspiration for Dissidia 1.

The only returning VAs that did not convince me were Phil LaMarr as Ramza (but to be fair, he barely voiced the character to begin with and it's a very specific tone he has to use) and Jame Arnold Taylor as Tidus (he sounds in pain with each line, it's clear he's starting to get old and his throat is almost destroyed from all these years of voice acting).

Not him but nothing in this series could ever phase me again after suffering through Genesis quoting Loveless and generally making the games story hard to stomach.

>Does this game have anything to offer in a single player setting?
It has a single player story mode just like Dissidia 1 and 012 did.
The story is a direct sequel to those though.
Personally I recommend you play Dissidia 012 since it includes everything from Dissidia 1 including the story, you can easily emulate it on PPSSPP and it has a 60 FPS patch available.

>Does this game have anything to offer in a single player setting?
Ahahaha.
Anyways kind of. There's some single player content, but it pales in comparison to playing the psp versions and requires you to play alongside two absolutely retarded AI

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If you're even slightly curious about the game and don't care about spending 20 dollars, I'd still wait desu. There will inevitably be a definitive edition with all the DLC and that will get price cut too.

Other than what said i can tell you that the story it's not big, don't expect a lot of cutscenes like in 1 and 012, but the devs update it regularly in order to include the DLC characters in the mix, so it's getting bigger in time.

I made this back when Dissidia NT was first announced

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I'll start giving a shit about this series when they add Quistis.

Why would anyone have watched anime after 2008?

You can have 1v1 in lobby matches.

I’m lost for words as to why they didn’t make that a ranked match option.

How's the story mode? Is it fun at least?

Why are people comparing this with Gundam Versus? They play nothing alike.

>Why would anyone have watched anime after 2008?
I wasn't expecting to find good taste in this thread. You're alright, user. But to answer the question, it's to keep up with the latest FOTM and to solve post work boredom when away on business.

>What's a Manikin?

and also

>When's Theathrythm?

Is the Steam netcode the same?

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>I’m lost for words as to why they didn’t make that a ranked match option.
Because the game is completely imbalanced when it comes to 1 vs 1, they designed it around 3 vs 3.
Not to mention that since characters have less moves than they did in 012 and only 1 HP attack means that 1 vs 1 matches are very dull.
But lack of 1 vs 1 balance is the main problem, some characters completely shit on other ones by default.

It's alright. It's extremely short. The fights against the summons are passable and they all have unique patterns and shit to learn so they're fun. None of them are shitpush level like the first time you fight Feral Chaos on any difficulty though

>what's a manikin
Copy of a character. In universe "bots" for an extremely simple explanation.

>when's theathrythm
I'd be surprised if that ever happens again.

Not as good as 1 and 012 but it's fun, they keep expanding it with each new DLC character basically adding them to the story with new events/routes for them.

Did you not play Dissidia or duodecim?
Manikins are the crystal clones you fight of the characters that bad guys throw at you

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>What's a Manikin?
In Dissidia lore they're basically just fake non-sentient copies of characters, kind of like robots.
In Opera Omnia and NT they gain sentience and story revolves around that.

Theathrythm is the name of the rhythm game spinoff series, think of it like Dance Dance Revolution or whatnot.

thanks, also, about TT, i said that because it has an arcade version, one would think porting that to PC should be piece of cake, specially considering this is now a thing.

i mean, seriously, who could see this coming?

This is the sequel to that action game that was on psp.

i know what Theathrythm is, i said 'When'.

please refer to my other post:

JA HA HA

GET THE FRUIT

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Where is Switch port?

Don't tell me it's not powerful enough to run 3v3 fighting game

maybe we can fix the UI with mods removing the unnecessary shit

One year after PCchads get done with it. sloppy thirds for you

Yeah sorry I misread.
As for the arcade one, I'd love for it to come to PC or even PS4 since we don't have access to it in the west and I already did everything there was to do in Curtain Call.
Also shameless shilling from me, if you have a hacked 3DS make sure to grab my release that ports the JP-exclusive Krile to the English version, complete with proper and accurate translations for all her text lines.
3dsiso.com/showthread.php?277133-MEGA-Theatrhythm-Curtain-Call-All-DLC-including-Krile-(USA)

They already fixed the UI before release though, did you not pay attention?

Dead by Deadlight is the only one that did that, I got banned ;( atleast now I'm free of that uttershit balance and survivors being overpowered

is still shit compared with the PSP version

>is a tree
>has a desirable fruit people are fighting over
Ex death confirmed for villain of DMC5?

wasn't this game utter dog shit?
who cares. i have a backlog the size of anthony burch's ass dildo

It's 3 vs 3, they can't have less UI elements without gimping your awareness.
They minimized it as much as they could.
But I fully agree about the game as a whole being shit compared to 012.

>It's 3 vs 3
lo what who was the genius behind this retarded idea, I can see having some fights being 3vs3 or 2 vs2 fun but these being the focus is retarded

It was made specifically to capture the arcade audience that likes these 3v3 arena games and it worked because AC does well in arcades. NT was always an afterthought port of the arcade version.

doesnt the game also revolve around breaking your opponents crystal to or some shit?

Lahabrea

That's a separate game mode

>No 2D dissidia fighter

See my Galuf bitch!

Only in the Crystal gamemode, not all gamemodes are based around that.
Crystal is basically Capture the Flag but instead of capturing flag you destroy it.

Aerith is a slut

the world is a small place, I was wondering when they would make the pc version since the game sold like shit

This.

012 was so good. All they needed to do was up the graphics and add a decent online and it couldve been great. No one asked for this 3v3 bullshit and the summons are trash. I was legitimately hyped until I played the demo. Glad I did, what a clusterfuck.

still no Tifa or Kain

>or Kain
Retard, Kain has been in the game since launch

You could say the same about Smash

>Minimum:
>OS: Windows 10 64bit

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>W10
Dropped lmao

>Obscure character
>Onion Knight already exists
>People would hate him for getting in over [INSERT CHARACTER HERE]
>Not sure if my laptop can even run NT
I do not make good choices.
Would still be neat if they went the scholar route and had his attacks mostly be attack items like Bomb Fragments and Zeus' Wraths.

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My bad. I played the demo and never picked it up again. At least they did that right

I want to wreck Arc's boipucci

>be Squeenix
>make multiple great games for the PSP
>shit all over them and ignore they ever existed
Okay this is epic.

what is a season pass? does the game expire or what?

You either buy the DLC individually or you buy a bundle that comes with everything for that "season" as a discounted price of like 7 bucks.

>3v3
>A lot of rpg elements removed
>1 HP attack
>No EX bursts or EX mode
>No assist meter
>Only 7 summons
>Vayne instead of Gabranth
Fuck, go back.

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I woulda bought the game at launch if it had Rydia.

>Zidane tried to figure out who Bartz' waifu was in original Dissidia
>found out his waifu was an old man in the end
Truly, bros before all else

Square pretends the 3D version of FFIII doesn't exist anymore, for some reason. A pity, some of its characters would fit nicely the crossovers.

Actually, it's specifically Dissidia that pretends it doesn't.
>World of Final Fantasy has Refia as III's representative
>The mobages have been using the remake characters. Record Keeper's Record Dungeons (i.e. Story retellings) use the remake for their basis.
> Luneth gets a reference in the JP description for the Onion Knight minion in XIV
>The remake was used as the basis for the adaptation in the Memory of Heroes light novelthat nobody read
Meanwhile, the Dissidia related spinoffs like Theatrhythm and Opera Omnia go out of their way not to use the remake characters and just use Onion Knight.

Dissidia and TT are nostalgia reliant, they don't use remake designs of Wol, Cloud or Cecil either.
It's literally just how Dissidia works.

Is this guy there? I loved his design and the concept of the way he fights

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>spinoff characters
>faggot Gaynesis
hahahahhahah
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
AHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
No.

The funniest shitpost I read all day

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I understand for Dissidia, but there isn't an excuse for Theathrythm.
in fact, they didn't really give III much thought in Theatrhythm. They chose Cid Haze as the second representative and even All Star Carnival only added the Cloud of Darkness.
According to the wiki the only non-spinoff game on par with it is FFI.

i guess this can happen if you never played garbage crisis core. So take my advice and never play it.

The game was very good for psp what are you on about?

>but there isn't an excuse for Theathrythm
TT is literally in the same universe as Dissidia, it's one of the cycles, so it does in fact have the same excuse.
In fact, TT goes out of its way not to include remakes/remixes of music, only original versions.
Fuck off faggot.

Was wondering when the f2p version was coming over.
I'll probably grab it. I only play a few characters on PS4 anyways so the rotating roster is whatever.
Not looking forward to the resurgence of Clouds and Sephiroths every fucking match though.

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>TT goes out of its way not to include remakes/remixes of music, only original versions.
>Mount Glug
Also, I don't realize Theatrhythm being one of the cycles. I thought it was an alternate take or something (given the whole Rythmia plotline and whatnot).
And doesn't change the fact that, even without the remake characters, III's representation is lacking. Like, at the very least, why Cid instead of Desch or Aria or Xande?

Curtain Call had a couple of tracks from the PSP versions of FFI and II if i recall.

>TFW swarms of brazilian sephiroths and clouds

Queimando dentro com raiva violenta queimando dentro com raiva violenta
Pabloroth!
Pabloroth!

Shit you're right, that's still only for FF1 though and only in CC.

3 is not a very well liked game in general, ni Japan or West.
It's universally agreed to basically be a pre-alpha prototype for FF5.

Nope, the arranged version of Mount Glug was in the original.

It came off to me as more mixed (though that could just be some of the reponses I see here and the game's reception gets more complicated when comparing the famicom and remake).
How is FFII regard, by the way? By All-Star, it has all four main protags + Minwu and the Emperor.

There's the new boss theme from the PSP version of FFII, but it's DLC so i don't blame you if you don't count it.
Although to be fair, the DLC selection for Curtain Call was top tier, stuff from NieR, Xenogears, Chrono Trigger, Mana and SaGa of all kind.

On the flip side a bunch of tunnel visioned new kids will be nice for some easy wins.

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It's dumb as fuck. I absolutely loved the first two games,but they had to make this dumbed down, arcadey crap instead.

Sucks for the paying players to have to have 75% of their matches against the same four characters on a weekly basis.

>extensive single player content.
Only fags care about this shit.

>extensive single player content.
Just what kind of series do you think this game originates from

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Doesn't matter when we're talking about a fighting game spinoff.

FF2 is pretty much ignored by both western and Japanese fans.

If anything it's good because it will make it easier to train against specific characters/matchups.

That's bullshit and you know it.

How far did you get in ranked?
Crystal A Golbez/Y'shtola/Yuna here.

Fighting games are all about multiplayer.

Not the guy you're arguing with but what is your problem exactly? There is a SP campaign and it's more or less same length as Dissidia 1 and they keep expanding it with each new character DLC since each new DLC character gets his own story route in addition to appear in cutscenes for other character routes in new events.

>characters have less moves than they did in 012
Literally fucking how?
I loved 012, got a shit ton of hours on that game but the moveset wasnt exactly complex/expansive

How did they fuck up this badly?

You know how you could have up to 6 HP attacks at once (3 air, 3 ground)?
In NT you can only equip 1 (ONE) HP attack.

Jesus fucking Christ what a mess
I loved Dissidia and I almost bought this even though Im not into other FF games, glad I didnt

You can give the F2P version a try and see if it's salvageable for you.
It's okay-ish for me but definitely far inferior to 012.

Mythril Ramza/Shantotto
I played a lot the first couple of months but eventually fell out of it. By the time I got back into it everyone was already way head so it took forever to get matches, and when I did it was either with a bunch of diamond players or a bunch of new silver/gold players thanks to the sales and shit.
The playstyle between lower and higher ranks is like fucking night and day.

>4 weekly rotating characters
>on a 3 vs 3 game
I think I'll pass

>tfw highest i got was platinum B Kefka

I mean it doesn't hurt you to try it since it's free and at this point you're just acting out of ignorance just because I told you the game is a step down from 012.
Don't parrot my opinion and form your own by trying it like I did.

I was being edgy on purpose, of course Im gonna check out a free game
Im just going in with extremely low expectations

>Im just going in with extremely low expectations
Do that.

Can you unlock more characters though?

If it makes it any better, the summons are actually part of the battle and aren't shitty JPEGs like in 1 and 012.
You also get an extra ability slot dedicated to "generic" abilities that all characters have access to, such as Toxic spell for example so it's not all horrid.
But the removal of HP attack slots is something I will never understand because it would be piss easy to just add more slots and have as many as in 012.

No idea, I only played the PS4 version few months back, retail copy in a store.

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I prefer the extra Brave attacks over useless HPs and useless Braves in 012

I'm happy we're getting another proper Monk and FF12 """villain""" representation.
I don't get why they picked shitty literally who for FF11 though and Snow for FF13 when he isn't even a tertiary antagonist of FF13.
FF11 should've been Shadowlord and FF13 should've been Pope Megatron, Caius or Bhunivelze.

You don't have more brave slots though.

On that note, thank fucking god for the summon rework.
The era of Shiva is fucking over.

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Why haven't they added Marche yet? He'd be perfect.
>summoned by Materia
>proceeds to forcefully return every hero and villain to their own world whether they like it or not

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Vayne is too good for Dissidia

Because the characters in NT aren't actual characters like in 1 and 012. All of them are just sentient manikins.

>Dissidia NT
>Not Kingdom Hearts 3
If I have to wait a year for KH3 PC I'll be pissed

KH3 won't come because of Disney.

>summoned by Materia
user, villains are summoned by Spiritus.

I'm guessing Ardyn or Ignis will be the next DLC to compensante for the death of the FFXV episodes.

Ignis would actually be a really fun character if it's future Ignis and not shitty boyband trip Ignis.

>better assist system
>rpg elements that impact the fight itself added
>out of 4, with some characters having more, every character having more brave attacks and all attacks being worth using
>Ex skills that work as more interesting versions of both
>permanent assists in your team
>summons give unique buffs and come out entirely to fight alongside you instead of being number changing jpgs
>Ramza

Elaborate

>a year
You're never getting it.

Disney blocked digital release of Birth by Sleep for YEARS.
They're also blocking PC releases for whatever reaso.

Ground Neutral
G. Forward
G. Backward
G. Dash
Air Neutral
A. Forward
A. Backward
A. Dash

Compared to pic related.

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Is my soul mate with nihilistic and wicked sense of humor in this?
I loved playing mages and Jecht who probably didn't make the cut and Kefka was fun as fuck.

I already own it on PS4 dipshit, you're a fucking moron if you don't think Square is porting it to PC just like every other game

This is a tired argument that's null considering KH3 is available digitally on Xbox Live and PSN. Hackmura said in an interview they were looking at "all platforms" for release after PS4 and XBO, and they just confirmed Switch ain't getting it the other day meaning PC is happening.

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Oh yeah, I forgot about the addition of Dash attacks.
This is still -3 net total of attacks.
6 brave + 6 hp in originals
8 brave + 1 hp in NT

EX Skills don't count because they are generic shit (de)buffs that everyone has access to.

Would the Switch even run the game? It looks like the kind of game that would sell a lot on the Switch since it's markted for (man)children

>F2P now
>people will finally stop trashing it once they learn how to play the fucking game

>EX mode
EX mode is still in the game, only bursts were removed since they wouldn't work in 3 vs 3 format (i mean, how would that work, other players would just be frozen waiting for the cutscene to play out?)
I hate the dumb 3 vs 3 system and the change it imposed and removal of burst.

According to sources from some IGN insider, the Switch can't run KH3 good enough but they're looking into bringing over the HD collections. Take it with a grain of salt though.

Having more HP attacks didn't make 012 better. The game was unbalanced and ridiculous.

But each character has a unique ex skill to themselves. Some are unique buffs like Ramza's shout, others like Locke give him more attacks or options depending on the condition. Yuna has a whole pet function revolving around her EX.

GET THE BROACHES

>NT

More like No Thanks.

Kefka's in.
Jecht too.

Because he's lying. Unlike 012, where maybe a small number of characters would be lucky enough to get 6 brave attacks and 4 HP attacks (often consisting of the exact same move but in the air) and most attacks being too weak to use, NT gives almost all characters a minimum of 7 brave attacks that are all usable and have differences even down to appearance, along with choosing 1 HP attack out of 4 very different ones that tend to come with their own little mechanics and are again actually worth using. This also doesn't count characters with extra HP attacks or those that work as two, characters with mode changes, Ex Skills which can be multiple attacks on their own and your teammates.

Both Kefka and Jecht are in.

wheres fuckin' prishe

they've already ripped y'shtola and terra's

>and it's more or less same length as Dissidia 1
No it's not. Unless you're discounting the fact that each character had 5 or more stages, each stage having 5 or more fights. If you're only counting cutscenes, of which many of them aren't even attached to gameplay at all, you'd be right in that and nothing else.

It's not the same. And comparing it to base Dissidia anyways is disingenuous at best. There's no maps with a (tiny) amount of explorations to travel in, no real comparison to Labyrinth (Gauntlet Mode fucking sucks), nothing like the Reports from the memories. And it boggles the fucking mind why they would lock what little there is behind Memoria. Admittedly not a problem because the shits quick to unlock but retarded regardless.

Regardless of the quality of the game as a whole (I personally like it) saying it has "the same length" of a single campaign is bullshit when trying to address it's lack of single player content.

Goodness.

Season 2 along with the rest of the missing vets and Zack and Vivi

Is Jecht's block still really good? I don't expect those two to be S++++++ tier or some shit but long as they're not scraping bottom of the barrel i could see fucking around with friends in here. While i'm at it what about Firion? Didn't touch him myself but friend played him furiously.

OH SHIT DISSI-
>the new one

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>If you're only counting cutscenes, of which many of them aren't even attached to gameplay at all, you'd be right in that and nothing else.
That's what I'm referring to.
Also you're a grade A moron if you're actually nostalgic for filler manikin fights that only dragged out playtime between cutscenes in Dissidia 1 and 012.
Getting rid of the cancerous grindy filler in NT story is a very good thing, NT does a lot of shit but this isn't one of them, fuck off.

Jecht Block was nerfed because it's douchebaggy. It can only block Brave attacks now but he gained an EX skill that allows him to cancel his combo and start a new one.

>the worst version of dissida
try begging for the better version this time

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It got nerfed to only blocking Brave attacks now.

Can't wait for the swarm of new players for those easy wins

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>getting rid of gameplay is a good thing
How about you fuck off. Manikins themselves had different patterns and AI patterns that changed how you approached them and fighting through dungeons of them is no different than playing through a non-existent arcade mode. That selfsame mode that SFV got shit on for not including as a default.

If I wanted to do nothing but watch cutscenes I'd watch a fucking movie. And when people mention single player, the fuck did you think they were talking about? You idiot.

I didn't feel that douchebaggy if compared to when playing Exdeath. Does he still shout
>COMEONCOMEONCOMECOMEONDONTCRYNOW
during his combos?

012 can be emulated and is best way to play it so I don't see how getting a game we couldn't actually play before is a bad thing.

>skirmish fights against manikins with 0 story
>gameplay
Go play against AI in custom matches, it's literally the same thing you humongous homosexual.

>it's not literally the same thing because maps had multiple story points
I see you're tactfully dodging the lack of a labyrinth, the memories, and other amounts of miscellaneous side content to fuel the singleplayer length.

Good job being an idiot.

>Minimum: OS: Windows 10 64bit
Haha, that's a miss from me, fucking faggots.

>COMEONCOMEONCOMECOMEON
No
His moveset doesn't include perfect cancels into other moves, and the ability to cancel moves to other moves was relegated to his personal skill on a relatively short cooldown.

Wait did people actually like that dumb huge map chess board thing in 012? People enjoyed that?

I'm dodging shit I don't give and never gave shit about.
I only played through story mode and went immediately to play online through XLink Kai and AdHoc Party where actual players and gameplay are.
Imagine being such a virgin loser you actually play a fighting game online with bots.
Stay mad faggot.

offline with bots*

Virgin retards that have no friends or balls to go online did.

>I don't give and never gave shit about.
Good for you. I too would love to make an admission that my point is completely wrong.
So now that we're in agreement; NT doesn't have a fifth of the singleplayer content of 012 and saying it is is being full of shit.

>imagine being a
Ad homs because you've lost an arguement on a korean basket weaving forum?
Aren't you cute.

Jecht Block only blocks brave now but since the default block isn't a parry anymore I'd say it's a net positive. He actually plays a bit differently, he traded in his timing and charging for an Ex Skill that lets him cancel brave attacks into further brave attacks or to keep safe.
Firion is somewhat similar but took his old gimmick up to 11. He has three brave combo strings he can go between freely now instead of having three moves that can have one of three different enders. No magic in the air but a bit more mobility instead.

youtube.com/watch?v=2M93k7mQgIk

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>gay RPG shit that has no place in a fighting game

>f2p
wasnt it a $60 game? How badly did it crash and burn??

How is stating truth ad hominem?
Only literal permavirgins play FIGHTING GAMES entirely offline with bots.
That's just fucking sad.
Go to a Street Fighter or Tekken thread and complain about lack of story or lack of intricate extra SP modes and you'll be laughed out like the faggot you are.

cringe video

yikes reply

40$ game actually, and it still is.
This isn't really F2P, just a demo version.
You still need to buy it to actually have access to all characters and story mode.

This one doesn't have a single player mode right? And no unlockables let alone campaign?

People are being awfully forgetful about the sheer number of boring one hit kill fights and boring input reading fights that plagued those modes. There was a lot there sure but not all of it was good. Labyrinth mode would be absolutely perfect for NT though, better than either game's version of it.

please just let us use more than 1 HP attack

that's all you need to give the battles slightly more depth, forcing players to learn other characters HP moves

Free aka Demo version only lets you play 4 weekly rotating characters.
Paid version has story mode, access to all characters and all modes.
Why can't you dumb niggers read threads, or heck, the fucking STEAM PAGE.

Play Vaan, he has two HP attacks.

>How is stating truth ad hominem?
You didn't state the truth, you threw a tantrum like a child and degraded to name calling.
I played the game online against other people but when I wasn't playing online I had a wealth of other play modes to fall back onto.

Meanwhile you're lying out your ass to compel people to purchase a game. How sad are you right now.

Thanks, might get it.

At least I get paid for it, unlike you :^)

>at least I get paid for it
Yikes.

Not him, but Dissidia isn't like those games.
Normal fighting games are based purely on gameplay and feature little to no customization. It's harder to make actual meaningful single-player modes because said lack of customization doesn't really lead to a sense of progress nor allows for interesting change-ups in how battles play out.
Meanwhile, games like Smash Ultimate or Jump Ultimate Stars (neither of which are traditional fighting games, much like Dissidia) have systems that allow for much greater variety in fighting, which is something their single-player campaigns do. Dissidia should be no exception (although they dumbed it down for arcades, so I dunno if that's viable anymore).
Also, those two games you mentioned actually do have story modes in their most recent installments.

That's cool but when is Ardyn coming to NT? I want to main the best boy, I'm bored of using only Kefka and Sephiroth all those years.
youtube.com/watch?v=qlYyPpBY1lo

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Maybe Season 3.
if there is one.

Depth doesn't come from just adding things, it comes from adding things that have different functions and uses that play off of each other And require the player to learn how best to make use of them based on the situation. Brave attacks were almost entirely pointless before and the Bravery system of NT has vastly more depth than it has ever had because of the two types of attacks actually having both balance and interesting implications with their choice and use.

Then what is that surprise they keep teasing at end of Episode Ardyn?

You know what it is, but you don't want to admit it yet.

Explain

No Tifa, not even gonna play for freefa

Not sure. I'm not keeping up with XV so I didn't know until you just told me.
Either way, there were some datamined files that show that the next pack will include Veterans + Vivi and someone else.

You have read that cook crazy "leak" that states that Ardyn is going to to end with the announcement of a new version of XV and that the reason they canned the other DLC was to pool development for it?

When are they adding the demon gunman?
youtube.com/watch?v=2BYLg80VsYY

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>Tfw no 4HOL Chaos to whack people over the head with a cane with

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Your Shan kind of really sucks.

Wanting to cash in on mtx since the game sold like shit.

when did this happen

And when does he full version comes out?

Have to deal with the brainlets around the world including people in this thread all over again telling people not to buy the game because its not 012

>muh 1v1's
previous psp games were absolute garbage in competitive play and came down to spamming HP attacks and dodging, literally nobody liked it and nostalgia fags don't know how bad it was because they never actually went to play it online thru adhoc party or other means.
3v3 with the new mechanics and roles allow for more reliable ways to do damage and make bravery attacks serve a purpose again, game objectively has better gameplay than it did before and if you want to play your trash 1v1's they're still in the game just don't be surprised to see how awful it is now you can actually play online.

>muh changable movesets!
Can still do this and theres even a new attack in the form of dash attacks and moves with cooldowns and shit, heck even EX doesn't belong in this game but they made their own thing here that works

>muh equipment!
Ye not needed in competitive play.

>muh storymode!
Game was originally an arcade title and it has a story mode and like most story modes they're meh, I mean I too would like a story mode that does something interesting with the gameplay and goes experimental with its own campaign and mechanics bringing back gear and summon mechanics from original just for story mode but they clearly were focusing on the multiplayer here.

>muh netcode
stop playing on wifi and stop playing WITH people who have wifi, you cannot defend wifi its objectively bad and causes problems you CANNOT deny this and you NEVER will be able to despite how many times and how common it is for people to try.

Game is great fun provided you can get a good coordinated team going, highly suggest people check out the discord servers for this game, if you're expecting some casual singleplayer then you will be disappointed and you can go back and play the crappy originals.

If we count this month as over. Just under a year ago. When I read this, Tabata was still working at Squenix.
I put it completely out of my mind until I read those batshit insane "Versus 13" posts talking about how Nomura left a teaser in KH3 that focused on how he did that to let people know he hadn't' given up on Versus 13.
I then put THAT out of my mind until KH3 actually came out and some lunatic made this youtube.com/watch?v=AJeZLDRCGCQ
Which then finally convinced me that... some part of that might be a tiiiiiiiiny bit true.

Is this like Kingdom Hearts without the Disney?

True. Duodecim could still be fun but the FF characters are easily the biggest draw here. NT would have been one of the most panned games ever if it was an original game with identical gameplay and modes with no FF attachment.

Yeah it's pretty much guaranteed that most of the complaints with NT come from casual fags that never tried to get in deep with the previous games.

Can't wait for the SFM. Might get something good out of this after all.

Vaguely. The PSP games were originally pitched as a KH fighting game if I recall.
NT is more like Gundam vs though.

>came down to spamming HP attacks
Stopped reading here.
You've proven you're shit at the game m8.

Let's watch some Dissidia AC tournament play
youtu.be/zDYiYCjsO3k?t=3130
>dashing around doing nothing
>get attacked constantly when he attacks anybody
>almost all HP attacks land on somebody who does something else
>Only actually uses 4 different moves out of his 9 available.
>Brave break bonus almost never stays out of the 1000-1100 for long despite having a large as indicator that it exists

Oh so how did Dissidia 012 fare
youtube.com/watch?v=UUK-12t0v_g
>uses every single move in his arsenal including the projectiles.
>uses every HP attack in different situations to best take advantage of it.
>Guards on both sides constantly throughout the fight
>Both raw HP attacks and HP attacks that were combo'd into after a full brave break constantly in the fight
>Ex rush lands
>The guy who was losing makes a comeback because the brave break bonus actually goes above 1300

Control your autism.

>at least half of wich were not impressive at all
This is one of the biggest things for me. Of all the characters from all of FF that they could have pulled, they pulled some of the weakest ones possible and then dragged out their release for as long as possible.

make ultros playable you cowards
also the whole cast of 9
AND BLACKJACK AND HOOKERS

Why couldn't we get original Dissidia style 1v1? What is this multi team garbage?

That's that shit that's popular with casuals in the arcades, people take their girlfriend and play that with them for a date and never go back. Why the fuck are they actually modeling a home sales strategy over something that works in the arcade and nowhere else?

This is a massively pleasant surprise, i love the old FF catalogue, and love fighting games and even some animu brawler things. 100% gonna be picking up the full edition of this.

Because this is a port of an arcade game.

Because they don't actually give a shit about the console version, the game was and is developed for the arcades.
The console port was always just a cash grab based on the arcade version with no budget.

A desire to be different from the previous games but also to copy what was already successful in arcades.

You'd be VERY stupid to. This is a complete downgrade from the previous Dissidia games.

No. It's very barebones and multiplayer is the main pillar of the game.

>if the art style, music, and character designs were worse the game would be worse
amazing deductive reasoning skills

Barely played them, not a factor to me, but i understand why older players wouldnt be happy.

Console port is supplementary income. Frankly while I enjoyed my time with the ps4 version, I really should have learned my lesson playing the beta and how sparse the matches were. On top of nightmarish lag when some brazilian joins your games, nobody fucking plays the thing during my hours. And hardly at all during those hours.

Bought the game, convinced a buddy of mine to get the game. And when it came out, the weekend after we would be waiting in the 2 man queue for fucking hours. I've learned my lesson. PC games that aren't mobas or battle royales have even less retention and unless this shit is crossplay it's fucking DOA.

Fuck me.

>competitive play
>in an RPG
This was your first mistake.

So wait, is this duodecim? the original? both with more? what the fuck..

I was hype for the game, but the wait times during the open beta convinced me to skip it.
I checked back from time to time if it went to sale, but it never did (at least I never noticed it).

It's the arcade game.

Flood of webm porn, when

I streamed the game during it's opening beta. One of my not-so-fond-moments that really should have been an omen, was when I was playing I got a random invite out of nowhere in the middle of waiting for a queue at midnight against daigo in SFV probably because I won a fight against him during one of his first streams and somebody fucked up some paperwork elsewhere

That was the sign and I ignored it. I like the game but like of a game only takes you so far when there's nobody to fucking play it with.

There were a few ultimecia webms that some mommy fag made after somebody gave him the assets. That was neat.

who cares game died on ps4 just few weeks after release

>it's called final fantasy so it arpeegee!!!!

Never played the psp versions but had a lot of fun with the beta on ps4 I borrowed at the time. Been waiting for PC, will fuck with the free version.

I'd love to see some Yuna porn for a change. For a character that popular she sure doesn't have any.

I've seen a flux of Terra porn appeared randomly, just recently. Now i'm clinging to hope that we'll get more of her and all the girls from Dissidia, currently

Almost all the protags designs look like shit now, Amano designs for some of them do not translate well to 3d

Doesn't help that the only thing they've had to work with was the X/X-2 model. Lulu has similar problems but she also seems to have a highly modified model floating around out there that I see more often than not.

I'll be buying Terra's game, again.
Goddammit I'm weak.

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Agreed. We've had a decent amount of goods from the past, but most are outdated. Looking forward to more with her current model

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But its free.

the demo version is free.

the f2p version is free

ye, the demo version.

the f2p version is not a demo version

The void is calling me, see you online faggots.

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It's F2P in name only, it doesn't have microtransactions, it's literally a demo version with locked out features with flat 1-time payment upgrade to standard aka retail version.

>posts wack ass gameplay with equipment and summons and other dumbass non competitive shit on to force people to actually use the other mechanics of the game

>dashing around doing nothing
Movement is never "nothing", you need to control ground and know when to attack.
>get attacked constantly when he attacks anybody
Whats wrong with this? its a team game after all and each member has to cut/interrupt
>almost all HP attacks land on somebody who does something else
Wow its almost like you can be punished for not paying attention or something
>only actually uses 4 different moves out of his 9 available
don't even talk like this isnt a thing in the other dissidia games or competitive games in general
>brave break bonus almost never stays out of the 1000-1100 for long despite having a large as indicator that it exists
good thing break actually occurs in NT whereas in 012 you can stall for longass times which is why matches are so fucking long but I can agree the HUD is a fucking mess.

Imagine being nostalgic for that trash

>PC port by current Squeenix
Nah, gonna hard pass on that, fampai.

dont bother arguing semantics with retards here desu.

Its a demo version. You literally gotta be retarded if you think otherwise.

Nah you can buy individual characters separately to keep permanently.

All their recent ports except Nier Automata are great though.

No feature is locked out outside of the story mode nobody cares about.
You can play with owners of the full game, and you can play all characters restricted to 4 at a time that rotate each week.
This is how most f2p multiplayer competetive games work.
You are not missing out on anything if you don't buy the full game unless you really want to play certain characters.

>stop playing on wifi and stop playing WITH people who have wifi, you cannot defend wifi its objectively bad and causes problems you CANNOT deny this and you NEVER will be able to despite how many times and how common it is for people to try.

You're pretty ignorant about modern wifi

The resources mean nothing if you're getting the same 15 CP over and over again.

It's an f2p version. You literally have to be retarded if you think otherwise. Now please stop arguing semantics.

>no feature is locked out
>except this feature that is locked out
lmao

>This is how most f2p multiplayer competetive games work
F2P games let you buy specific characters anytime you want and don't have flat 40$ "get everything" option, fuck off faggot.

Yes, fuck off, it's an F2P version and not a demo version no matter how much you keep sperging out.
Show me a single official communication referring it as a demo version. I couldn't care less about your arbitrary personal definition.

My, aren't you an angry little sperg

You're a grade A retard that would believe shit is gold if developer slapped a nametag on it that says "Gold".
It functions like a demo and is therefore a deme, get cancer and DIE.

How anyone can be so toxic or elitist about a game series centered around homosexuality, men in dresses, and the power of friendship is beyond me

Wrong, dissidia was my first final fantasy game and I didn't care about any of the characters at the time. I still really liked it.

>>>/trannyera/

Ah yeah, I forgot FF fans are angry, raging faggots. My bad

Fantastic non-argument, I will claim my victory here.

Did you actually watch the video you linked? Of the few times any moves outside of maybe 3 were used they were ineffectual and a poor choice for the situation even when that situation allowed any move whatsoever. The fight almost entirely came down to "poke until assist is full then combo assist into HP" which is how all fights can only really come down to with how busted the mechanics and numbers are. The fact they actually spend all that time and energy to cause a break shows they're trying to pretty it up.

>know when to attack
Yeah doing nothing
>what's wrong with this
I love no counterplay. Oh right, the counterplay is doing nothing
>punished for not paying attention
Or for doing anything that's not doing nothing. Almost every single HP attack landed was on somebody else who was in the middle of doing something or was animation locked. Stellar "gameplay"
>in the other dissidia games
It's not. You were shit at the games. As evident by you saying "all you do is spam HP attacks". Pretty laughable really
>break actually occurs
Because you can potentially break in one combo. NT had breaks as well and those were MORE impactful because of the threat of the brave break bonus. A break means you were at a significant disadvantage, and avoiding that break state by landing braves was extremely important.
Meanwhile in NT people just let loose HP attacks on whoever the fuck and rock with it
Kefka has a killing blow starting from here youtu.be/zDYiYCjsO3k?t=3107 and doesn't use it until he attacks somebody who dares to attack somebody else here youtu.be/zDYiYCjsO3k?t=3222. MInutes fucking later. ALL hp attacks that were landed only landed because somebody did something else besides nothing. lol
I also forgot to mention summons
>crystal shows up and people play a minigame where the only goal is to not get hit while doing something else
vs
>seeing a crystal, grabbing it, and making sure to defend yourself on the way to it to make it's acquisition worth the effort.

Also
>posts wack ass gameplay with equipment and summons and other dumbass non competitive shit on to force people to actually use the other mechanics of the game
Oh you mean playing the game as intended causes people to play it how it was intended? Super insightful on you.

>non competitive.
I'm pretty sure people can tell the difference between good gameplay and gameplay where people do nothing. The entire tournament is the latter

>they're just trying to look good
Laffin at ya

>(and remove that rock paper scissors air chase shit)
Retard it doesn't work like that at all. You just have to react with the right timing.

To be fair, the reaction time needed to react to light attacks is outside of the range of most people. It's why people didn't use them online at all. Because being subject to them or initiating them on your own means you're one bad guess or reaction away from taking free damage and likely an HP attack

>Yeah doing nothing
LOL I'm convinced that you are literally at all video games.
You're the kinda person who thinks aiming in a shooting game is doing nothing because big blasty things aren't happening on screen

You sound like you're pretty ignorant about wifi and packet loss in general, without fail and I mean W I T H O U T F A I L, when I hear new players in fighting games or arena fighters talking about how every match they play has a shitty connection I will ask them if they have wifi and they will ALWAYS say yes (and try defend it like a fucking moron "m-muh modern wifi, muh download speed is really good!, I have good wifi guys lol its the game thats shit not my connection")

>WHAT THE FUCK MY ACTIONS HAVE CONSEQUENCES? DUDE THIS GAME SUCKS WHY CANT I CANCEL ATTACKS SUPER EARLY AND JUST BE CONSTANTLY SAFE ALL THE TIME

>crystal arguement
>MY GAME IS SUPERIOR BECAUSE THE CRYSTAL JUST HAPPENED TO SPAWN NEAR ME SO I GET IT 100% SAFELY I FUCKING LOVE RNG BASED, WTF IN NT YOU ACTUALLY HAVE TO COMMIT A MEMBER OR TWO TO GO AND ACTUALLY RETRIEVE IT AND IT TAKES TIME TO CONSUME SO ITS MORE FAIR GAME FOR BOTH TEAMS DEPENDING ON WHERE IT SPAWNS MAN THATS SHIT

Go play smash with items on fag

>you are literally at all video games.
literally what at video games?
Calm down bro I can't decipher your post

>big blasty
Those are in this game too. It's called summons with huge fuckoff aoe. Real competitive they are in this serious competitive fighting game, user. The same game that's so competitive that every team used Shiva because of the impeccable balance. lol

Can you genuinely say they aren't, knowing how the game is actually designed to heavily restrict so much of what they do, after seeing all that they do either contribute to nothing or be the worse option by far? I'm not even going near the nonsense you're firing at that other poor guy but I sure love how you are seriously trying to argue that break was not only a real thing in 012 with it's pissweak brave damage and ridiculous defensive game, but that it's more valuable and powerful than in NT because "durr bigger number", while ignoring the much larger HP values. Are you the type to call Ryu vs Ryu fireball games "mindless spamming"? You sound like you are.

No, they were actually changed in Duodecim to be too fast to react to to make it a genuine 50/50. A controversial change but for the purpose of the mechanic one that was better overall since it was just too weak otherwise and the attacker still gets the Ex and the first choice. It also helped to make it a little less painfully slow to go through.

Most main FFXI bosses are huge. The human sized ones are basically the zilart bros and Lady Lillith. Now, I'd have preferred Lilith, but I'm not surprised they chose one of the brothers.

Ryu v Ryu fireball game required input and reading my man. People may laugh at o.sagat mirrors but a few kicks and that fireball game stops.
youtube.com/watch?v=cbMllTeLTR0

>piss poor brave damage
You mentioned larger hp in the same sentence for whatever reason. We'll get get back to that later
>ridiculous defensive game
And yet more attacks landed. Interesting use of phrases
Anyways to the meat of this point.
>break was not only a real thing
youtu.be/qLSW7Cnfj4s?t=215
Due to a single break and the resulting wall rush, he was able to both land an HP attack that reduced Garland to 1HP and eventually win the match.

If you're asking "do you think they're not making that look pretty". I would respond they aren't. And anybody who played this game online against other people who weren't dogshit would know they weren't. Certainly not the "spam HP" attacks that fuckface tried to prove. And then fumbled over by saying it's not "spamming HP attacks" deconstructing his entire point. Which I so tactfully left alone.

>Go play smash with items on fag
That's what summon crystals are m8. Collect enough crystal bits and you get to use your final smash.

>consequences
>do literally anything
>get hit because you did literally anything
Stellar game design m8. You sure slayed me with that great logic. I too love a game where 90% of hp attacks landed are always on somebody else who is occupied. The real joke is that this is the professional level with people who are good at this game. Online with the rest of the NA scrubs matches end with me landing meteors (which everybody and their mother has because build diversity is apparently a joke) on 3 players who were busy doing something else that wasn't doubleteaming me.
Shame I can't even do that anymore, as the game is a ghost town on the ps4. I guess other people too were sick of the winning strategy being "do nothing and hit other people when they aren't paying attention"

Can't wait to bully PC newfag shitters and make them ree because they do stupid shit and get punished for it.

Ok, didn't know that.

No, the epitome of that is DBSuper.

>
I'm so happy Shantotto is in this game. I loved her in FFXI.

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You do realize Exdeath, Hell Emperor, Cloud of Darkness and Braska's Final Aeon Jecht are fucking huge as well right?
They just downsized them for Dissidia.
They could've done the same with Shadowlord and Pope Megatron.
Or if they chose Caius, they wouldn't even need to downsize anything as Caius is literally human sized.

What's the free-to-play aspect of it?

You can only play as 4 characters that rotate weekly and you can't access single player/story mode.
You also can't use alternate weapons or alternate costumes.

Wait, but I read there's also a complete version releasing alongside it?
Fug. All I hear is about how bad this game is. But on the other hand I never got to play Dissidia legitimately before outside of emulation and the idea of crushing down niggers with ExDeath and Garland sounds too appealing...

Yes, the "Free" version is basically a demo.
If you go to Steam page, you will see it has actual full version buyable there.
Standard is the full version.
Deluxe is Standard + Season Pass.
Free is quite literally just a demo.

You're acting like the break bonus being 1000 compared to say 1999 makes brave breaking not as much of a factor despite 1. Having more brave damage happening making breaks more likely, aka possible outside of freak incidents and the most severe fuckups, 2. The higher break bonus is negated by NT characters having less health, 3. Not having such an oppressive defensive game.
More attacks landed because the match lasted twice as long. That has nothing to do with how little an advantage the aggressor has due to instant guarding, very hard to punish dodges full of iframes that can make most attacks safe, dashing, assists and Ex Revenge.
Anyone that has played the game would know they're missing a lot of their stuff and making poor attack choices. Maybe they're doing it for fun, maybe they want the fight to look cool, maybe they're bored of being optimal. But that first video was both not a good example of how limiting the game really is at high levels, and a good example of the issues the game really has through the prevalence of assists and the heavily skewed risk/reward game. Things NT made great strides in fixing on top of adding much more depth to the Bravery system.

f2p? might actually take a look then
guessing the cosmetics are cash?

It works like Killer Instinct's model. You get 4 characters to play for free and they rotate every week, but if you like a certain character you can outright just buy them for like 8 bucks or upgrade to the full experience for like 40 or something.
In the f2p mode you have access to the full multiplayer so you can play with people who have the full game, but no single player stuff or cosmetic stuff.

Characters are cash

>those minimum requirements

They use their costumes. Their defaults are even from Advent Children and such. Also depends on how you define nostalgia, since Terra's Amano design is different from her game design. And III DS is over 10 years old. Maybe even 15.

cool
i still don't have hope it'll be a success, but at least that model works

>Their defaults are even from Advent Children and such
The default costumes for all characters except Snow are their basic designs. Lightning, Cloud and Y'shtola use their LR, AC and Heavensward designs respectively in the story mode, but in every other mode you need to unlock them.

I know you want bumps but this is the last one I'm going to have the effort to give you before I abscond. Or maybe not. We'll see. Anyways
>not as much of a factor
Larger pools means acquiring larger amounts of bonus more worthwhile. In NT it's extremely easy to hit killing brave due to both increased damage on high brave targets and the low break bonus, which is actually a third of a characters health. ALL brave above kill is meaningless; You spend even more time looking for windows to offload. In 012 Brave is never worthless to accumulate and you offload to make more incremental progress towards a kill as excess brave IS whittled by a good player.

>oppressive defensive game
I don't know how many examples I need to post to prove a point. Even average 'high level' exdeath lands more attacks in a match in 012 than a character does on another character in NT. The "counter character", user. On duration: Compare 3 minutes in that match versus 3 minutes in all but the second to last match in the tournament I posted. Go nuts. I can post 2017s too if you think this is an outlier

>anyone that has played the game
I'll retort that anybody that has played the game at any kind of level would know that they aren't making poor choice. Kuja lands no less than 5 raw attacks and Lightning lands 3 raw HP attacks. These "poor" decisions are decisions that are literally done by everybody for various reasons. youtu.be/W1aBo97r2HI?t=143
Lightning raws an HP attack because she's protected by the bubble. Squall hp attacks through it to deflect it. He then HP attacks because he predicts she will dodge forward. She does and gets hit.
youtu.be/qE_Dxg8mpdw?t=294
Different characters players
Squall bops the bubble back with a guard. They both deflect with hp
Lightning goes for a raw HP attack to take easy damage and is hit

>showing how
I have tons of videos. I watch and play this shit to this day.
While flawed the game is fun. Your points come from inexperience

>that UI
Where's the game?

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You're right, the arcade UI is much better

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Everything except the break bonus and the d-pad icons is vital information and I've never felt like the HUD has obstructed my view of anything important.

I agree but yikes dude: what's with all this 1v1shit you're posting?

I didn't have any screen or video of the UI while in a normal match at hand

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Oh fuck. Noice.

Ramza is so beautiful, I want him as my bf

A shame he doesn't have more outfits

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Audibly chuckled.

Get these little girls outta here.

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Shout Ramza > Garland

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Icons flat-out proved nobody gives a shit about Smash without its, well, icons. Slap City came closest to proving it false but it was also a one-off game and didn't have any characters obviously aping Smash characters in playstyle

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I hope we can transfer some of our progression from ps4 to steam, grinding cosmetics for all the characters i play will be annoying especially the 100 games on 1 map

I hope f2p inspires people to actually play the game.
That and that the game is region locked. Or at the very least people can filter by connection quality.

>1 hp attack
>only 3vs3
literally "how to kill a game with only two decisions"

Oh cut that out.
The 1 HP attack is actually quite fine when the game is balanced around only one existing. Especially with how strong they are relatively in the new gaming space and how easy it is to land a kill.

What would you remove?

As if the people complaining about 3v3 or only being able to choose one HP attack care about how well designed the game is.

the game can be really well designed, but if it's not fun to play, into the trash bin it goes.

okay, but NT is fun to play.

It's plenty of fun. There's just a floor you have to get past before you can start having fun that is called "map awareness". Everybody compares this to Gundam Versus for some reason but in that game you need just as much map awareness. I ain't going to hate on you for wanting more of what you know but you should at least try out the free version before you render judgement, user.

Then why was Zidane like top 3 of FF characters nip wanted in KH?

>no story mode
But it's practically that way in the normal version

FUCK FOR ONE MOMENT THANKS TO THE THUMBNAIL I THOUGHT THIS WAS THE DISSIDIA ON PSP BEING PORTED AND REMIXED TO THE PC

FUCK DISSIDIA NT WHAT THE FUCK WERE THEY THINKING??

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>NT
I'll fucking pass that shit sucks
I'm all for this though

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Same here. In fact, it's the game that drew me to the series. FFVI ended up being my favorite.

He was top 3 by less than half.
Furthermore, every single character on that list with the exception of Locke, Cecil, Terra, Lightning, Bartz, and Noctis were in one or more kingdom hearts. Terra and Cecils outfits are in RE:Coded.
To top even that. The characters that are over were more wanted in KH3 than him. Lightning and Noctis.

"why was he in top 3" you ask? Because there's next to nobody left.

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>fun to play.
so explayin why it's a dead game and it was already dead a couple of months after release.

Jesus you made me sad.

But will it have crossplay?

It's not dead though. The EU community at least hosts daily lobbies that typically go on for many hours with plenty of people coming in and out during that time.

Extremely shit netcode. The most important part of a games life outside of Japan still used networking that only works within Japanese infrastructure but with no hard region locking meaning that I was playing against children on wifi and south americans who only wanted to play with an active community.

Even in the beta, the late night games were near unplayable because if one person lags, the entire game fucking stops constantly. The beta itself had such terrible netcode that you literally couldn't connect to anybody, which killed interest I'm sure before the full release even happened. Hopefully they learned their lesson moving onto the pc release. I hope they did.

I'm sorry user

Its the kind of game I would play on the arcade in my way home after work but I wouldnt want to buy it and play in my house.

Same reason any fighting game has a small community, it's a really niche game

Musashi.

>Hopefully they learned their lesson
think for a second about who we are talking about...since when Square Enix ever learned a single lesson? they keep making tha same msitakes again and again, while shutting dow brand new succesful game series, like TWEWY and Bravely Default.

We both know the version of that we'll be getting from modern day Square. Who are you kitten.

Well. I mean to play devils advocate. TWEWY is a result of Nomura being literally busy forever. And the Bravely team is working on other games. Not to mention that Bravely Default exists as a concept because of the artistry of Yoshida and I can only imagine what his schedule is like.

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>We both know the version of that we'll be getting from modern day Square. Who are you kitten.
Jokes on you, I liked Samurai Legend Musashi.
Alternatively, Aya Brea would be cool, but unfortunately Parasite Eve is on lock due to legal constraints iirc. Wouldnt even be good because they'll just use 3rd Birthday "Aya"