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>smash made evo
That's really funny because smash wouldn't even have the competitive scene it does if not for evo. EVO single-handedly saved melee
>all those melee babies that never heard of UNIST
This is actually infuriating. Those autists are circlejerking their 15 year old game so much they can't see an other relatively old game gaining popularity.
*exists*
I don't get it, is there Ultimate?
Why keep playing melee when the superior and complete package is already played?
Based Melee killer. Still kind of of annoying to fight in Ultimate.
Because you can't one trick your way to the top.
One of the signs of autism is an irrational fear of even the tiniest change.
>twitter drama threat
fantastic
Mr. Wizzard can probably buy the entirety of Mcdonalds with the money he got from French Bread to have UNIST at Evo
>hasn't been on sp when the Argentina meltdown happened
I feel bad for you, desu.
To be honest, BBtag shouldn't be at evo. And GG should've been in instead.
I think they would have kept Melee if it wasn't for the logistical hell of getting CRT TVs and hauling them around just for one game.
Post >yfw DAY OF THE SOAP HAS COME
because smash u doesn't have the epic janky 5k apm mechanics that give you arthritis
meleefags love that shit
Melee is the only sandbox fighter, nothing else compares.
I remember how someone used the puff and won. Are they still seething over that?
Melee was at evo 2007 13 14 15 16 17 18 yet somehow this a surprise or a Btfo moment?
SMELEE DEFENSE FORCE SMELEE DEFENCE FORCE BTFO
B
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F
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it was a surprise to melee players for some reason
people are getting tired of watching the same 4 characters and the same players play an old busted up jank game for some reason
>smash made evo
imagine thinking this
Imagine the smell
Unist is a better fighting game and a better game overall than Smash
Get fucked.
>BBTAG IS NOT COMING BACK
>Gets in and takes a sunday spot over dbfz and mk11
>REEEEED LIKE ROOOOOSES blasting in the arena
Best timeline
What's ZeRo's reaction to this?
I'd rather have GG over babytag.
So was the whole CRT thijg actually a big enough deal?
I'll never fully understand all the ridiculous requirements smash players have for their decades old game
It is a collosal pain in the ass to even get CRTs given no one makes them anymore, and they're heavy as shit on top of it. But not having them means adding a shitload of lag to the setup as the TV runs upscaling calculations before showing you the image.
In reality though it's more because the Melee scene is falling apart, much as Meleefags will tell you otherwise. All the top players are mostly or only playing ultimate, leaving just Armada Mang0 and Hbox to win every single tournament, and by that I mean Hbox to win 90-100% of tournaments. There's no new blood that could even hope to compete on the level of autists who've been wavedashing since launch so the meta's stagnated to just watching Fox get camped out by jiggs on the ledge for 8 fucking minutes while everyone else wobbles for 4th.
finally
>leaving just Armada Mang0
remember when those two played Melee? it's been a while
>it's there six years in a row
>somehow this is a surprise moment
yes?
Why do you care about literal who nobody transsexuals' opinions on Twitter?
I’m sick of Melee fans getting shit on. We had your backs for the last couple of years getting you into EVO, but you just start attacking us at the drop of a hat
Enjoy Gorilla Tag you braindead moron. Gotta love that Gordeau RWBY x Gordeau RWBY matchup in top 3. OH wait a Gordeau Mai won. The only other gorilla that could possibly beat scythe spin is scythe and retardo mai.
>Homersandwich.jpg
What?
So this is how Melee dies - with thunderous applause.
>all that text posted just a minute and a half later
Literally created his own strawman to copy paste his autism at
>We had your backs for the last couple of years getting you into EVO
Ok two sides of the argument.
>Melee has been a longstanding tradition at EVO and one of the most popular tournaments year over year. Melee is synonymous with EVO. The popularity of EVO is partially tied to the success of Melee.
>Melee is an old game, it should leave so newer games can get a chance to get a slot.
it's only "sandbox" when you play with a ruleset so autistic that even the autistic creator of the series hates you
Can't melee just have a side tourney?
All these literal who’s of the smash community doesn’t represent us. But I mean if you think your twitter screen caps are the peak of humor please by all means
>getting shit on
no that's just how a bunch of people who don't wear deodorant or wipe their asses smell
typical smeleefag, not recognizing that his own community has issues
>twitter salt mine thread
>only two screencaps
>41 posts
>the origial smellypost wasn’t even in regards to melee - it was a Smash 4 local
I’m beginning to think the shitposters are more autistic than the meleefags themselves. This entire shitstorm has proved that the fgc/smash community do not deserve to be taken seriously among the likes of ASSFAGGOTS, CSGO, and even Madden/FIFA. Fucking Overwatch is better than this right now - and that’s a marina trench deep bar to limbo under. Congratulaions, Fighterfags, you are now the laughing stock of competiuve vidya.
I’m a Mahvelfag, so I feel nothing in spite of all of this. I have every right to talk down on every last one of you subhumans.
This hit me real hard.
If anything 3rd strike made evo
just take a shower what's so hard about this
melee fags think fighting games started with melee just like final fantasy started at 7
> I have every right to talk down on every last one of you subhumans.
Well no, you play marvel
You’re proving his point, user.
You cant have a game be competitive when only 2-3 people keep winning
>smash made evo
lol, this has to take the cake for most delusional statement of the decade as it pertains to video games
what do you expect from retards
is there a fanbase with a bigger victim complex than meleefags?
>Show up at EVO with a Reddit army demanding to be treated like kings and the stars of the show so you can evitably watch one of 4 guys win
>When the entire reason your game has a community is because Japan and Europe don't care about it so NA players can win an esport for once
>Meta eventually falls apart because the game isn't balanced for what you're trying to do with it
>When you get shown the door it's everyone else who's autistic
One thing you've gotta admit is that the melee pros are smart for keeping their game alive for as long as they've done. If everyone moved onto the Next Big Thing, like with normal fighting games a lot of them would be left behind and made irrelevant. It's the same with normal fighting games, for every Daigo and Tokido there's five nobodies who fell into obscurity.
Cease your autism, the patch is coming.
Hurrs and durrs i guess
>Snk and French bread
>Having the money to pay Mr. Wiz for a slot
Lmao
>so the meta's stagnated to just watching Fox get camped out by jiggs on the ledge for 8 fucking minutes while everyone else wobbles for 4th
My sides thank you.
Never noticed that.
I mean, fuck the Melee players. Been playing competitively for 5 years, dropped it when the fags all stopped shit talking the absolute cuck game that is smash ultimate.
The second GimR pushed smash fuckin gultimate as the prime slot, the final event, the top 8 last game to be played at GENESIS 6, THE fucking grassroots melee tournament just for money and people did not get mad about it, I literally dropped Melee after 5 years. Fuck these absolute cucks.
>Heart's game got fucked over years ago
>rose from the ashes to fuck over melee
Praise our lord and savior Arcana Heart
Melee is dead
Samurai Shodown lives
2019 is fucking awesome so far
that's about as accurate as saying evo saved unist
>Some Meleeniggers actually think French bread and SNK have enough money to throw around for bribing people
inb4 the chinks that own SNK have money
The chinks that owned them have done so since before KoF XIV was released and they didn't even give them shit for that, otherwise they wouldn't have mentioned having a shit budget for it.
Don't bother trying to reason in a sea of shitposting.
It was a repost, you're not very smart.
You're literally in the same boat since everyone was just as glad not to see Marvel at EVO last year.
Post the original
The only problems with these adapters is that they can be a bit pricey ($85 or so at minimum) and they NEED the original Gamecube models since they have a digital AV port.
The GCVideo tech also works on Wii with some further modification but there's no plug and play solution there since the Wii didn't have onboard digital AV output capability.
Unist is a great gane, but I agree about sam shodown, no one cares about that game and it'll die the moment it comes out, so why is it even at evo? It also looks like ass, like sf4 with swords.
Search the archive, newfag
Is Melee fags the most autistic fandom? There's like...2-3 legitimate characters used at "competitive" level in that piece of shit game.
I'm happy for undernight but literally who the fuck plays soul calibur
The funniest part is all the Meleefags saying they got bought out of a slot when the game that replaced it was fucking UNIST, a game by what is essentially a doujin studio that sure as shit doesn't have the money for a slot. Even aside from that SamSho is modern SNK who is also poor
Over a third of them are just tekken players.
>Meleefags are so fucking retarded they think FRENCH BREAD paid for a slot
This just shows meleefags do not belong in the FGC. If you knew anything, at all, about fighting games in general, you'd know that French Bread is poverty as fuck.
What's funny is that this got shat on the year after when Melee went back to Sunday.
If Ult had a good Event Mode and the same importance to unlocks (I don't mean more time but I mean there should've been batched unlocks that didn't feel formulaic) I'd 100% agree with this but for now I partially agree by gameplay feel and the pull it has on my friends and even siblings. It really does call back the magic of early 00s casual Melee play again
>Meleefags used to crash Brawl and later Smash 4 events just to boo and hiss at people enjoying a Smash game that isn't Melee
>EVO in particular had Meleefags screaming TRASH and GET OFF THE STAGE from the crowd when a new Smash 4 set started the first year it had it
>back in the day the bullied a kid that beat a well known Marth players in the finals of a tournament into giving him his winnings because the tournament had items on and he didn't win "honorably"
>one of the first years CEO hosted Melee, the Melee winners threw their medals in the dumpster outside of the event as protest because the Melee finals didn't get top billing
>when EVO was brought back, they ran Bo3 to top 32 which caused Meleefags to REEEE because anything less then Bo5 in Top 64 was opression to them
>after that change literally every year Melee went hilariously overtime at EVO
>not to mention the logistical nightmare of keeping 20,000 lbs of CRTs on hand and needing to move them around, plus how hard to find GameCubes and Memory cards for them can be these days
stop regurgitating garbage opinions. if you ever played melee you'd understand that the ruleset is comes almost NATURALLY if you want to see who is better at the game i.e. competitive play.
We finally.....have the...true successor. Melee can die peacefully now. Rest in piece
>generic samurai fighting game
Stinky meleefags have gone too far
>comes almost naturally
>took decades to form
?
if you have to cut out 3/4 of the game and also ban multiple tech options to make it that "perfect" competitive game then maybe it's not really a perfect competitive game?
I liked watching Melee, but I'm glad it's finally dying. Armada moved on, PPMD basically quit, Leffen is way more focused on Ultimate, and so is Plup.
I'm more tired and bored of watching tournaments be "if Leffen/Armada didn't beat HBox in Winners Semis/Finals, HBox will win" or a variation of that than I'm sad that Melee will likely be dead soon.
Honestly, for me if I miss a day of showering (I shower at night so sometimes I get lazy) I feel hesitant to shower the next day.
Now granted if I am going somewhere I always shower first butt if someone who doe shower daily like me can get in a rut of almost not wanting to shower at all because I did not the day before I can see how some smelly boys might just not want to shower. Still makes it gross though
Melee is sick*
*If it conforms to my perfect ideal of a game where people don't play slow characters or basically anything but spacies so we can keep thinking of players like Dragonball Z characters (buy my shirt) and "gods" and villainizing everyone who does something different
This is what bamboozles me most, why do they care so much?
The entire point of something like EVO is supposed to be people who genuinely like fighting games watching high level play of various other fighting games, like a showcase of where the genre is
But Meleefags themselves point out that a clear subset of people tune in when Melee starts and then tune out when Melee ends. There are like 7 or 8 guys who seriously compete in Melee so why is it so important they show up at EVO? It almost just seems like an ego thing
>took decades to turn of items and play on he more neutral stages
no, the tourney scene took decades to get this big. but people played like this since way before.
case in point: me. i played like this with my friends long before i knew of the us smash scene.
you don't have to "cut it out". it's not like a mod. and yeah, i don't agree with bans
For competitive, Brawl and Wii U felt like the other Smash games compared to Melee. Now Melee feels like the other Smash game compared to Ultimate. The newest Smash is no longer a Weenie Hut Jr game.
this, melee has just gotten worse and worse the past few. the old gods have gotten lazy and won't commit to playing "lame" to beat hbox, and there isn't enough new blood improving fast enough to be a threat.
I think it's finally time to let it die
Don't be sad that it's likely dying, be happy that it's defied the odds for almost two decades and managed to be so prevalent and relevant (although let's be honest, Melee coasted for so long mostly thanks to Brawl's gameplay being incredibly polarizing and WiiU having a pitiful userbase on a pitifully low selling console). Also be happy that Melee's prevailing nature meant that Sakurai finally had to cave in and (at least on the surface) meet Meleefags halfway with Ultimate's gameplay.
*saves EVO*
it's so fucking dumb how subborn the players are to not adapt to hbox's style of play. I don't like seeing hbox win either but it's the fault of the other top players for letting him get away with it for so long. very disappointing
Oh for sure, what I meant was that I was barely even sad about it dying, actually. I think it's pretty good that people can move on and it's not with a sudden cut, but more like a natural progression towards death.
>so why is it even at evo?
money? probably a sponsor deal
The only "adaptations" to Hbox's "style" are equally passive, spammy nonsense.
It's nobody's fault that the highest level gameplay for an unpatchable game turned out to be achievable with 2 TASbots.
And it's nobody's fault to just admit Ultimate would probably be more fun than Melee featuring Hbox and anti-Hbox.
>H-Box winning everything and being a fag overall
>Armada and Plup retiring on top of PPMD
>Mango, Leffen, Armada and Plup playing nothing but ultimate
>Only new blood worth a shit is Zain, still can't go toe to toe with the best
>Now melee gets dropped
Its dead Jim. The story of the true MC Axe is going to end on a cliffhanger.
>back in the day the bullied a kid that beat a well known Marth players in the finals of a tournament into giving him his winnings because the tournament had items on and he didn't win "honorably"
Who was it that got bullied?
That's a good way to put it. This does feel like the most natural death for Melee. If it got buried for the sake of artificially pushing Brawl or 4 then that'd be preposterous.
Even if the death isn't natural: of all the talk of conspiracies of UNIST or SamSho killing Melee at EVO, I'm surprised more people haven't considered that Nintendo themselves could have wanted it gone. They're taking eSports more seriously with Switch plus they've finally got a Smash game that's sold well AND has widely agreeable gameplay, so it wouldn't very well do to have it compete with its own 18 year old thrice-predecessor at a venue with precious few game slots.
who's getting revealed for Ultimate at EVO? Ten bucks says Heihachi or a Dark Souls rep.
>Smash made evo
I'm not into fighting games or part of its community and even as an outsider I know that is not remotely true in any way, shape or form.
That is some fucking advanced delusion.
>makes a salt thread
>doesn’t post salt
This would be funny if we actually had people to laugh at. This is just a nonstop circlejerk of underageb& memespouting.
Not to mention Meleefags are infamous for stealing the CRTs and controllers
You know, SNK has been playing pretty cozy with Nintendo lately...
It happened a long ass time ago, well before Brawl came out. It was a like a 12 year old that went by the handle of Whazzo or something like that?
The Marth player was Ken, I remember that much. Also that user was slightly wrong, it wasn't because of items (they were off) it was because the kid counterpicked a stage that was starting to get banned by the rest of the Melee community, but for that tournament at the time was perfectly legal.
It was true that the message boards and rest of the Melee community ganged up on him and got him to forfeit his winnings and his trophy to Ken though because of the counterpick.
>losing to a kid because of a stage
Pathetic.
What stage?
He's my dream rep for a second fighting series in Smash for sure. Only problem is that he'd need the Castlevania treatment for music (i.e. a metric fuckload of music) to be done true justice. They could probably get away with a lot of game rips, especially if they pull from ASTs, but at the very least new Smash covers would need to be done for the following tracks at minimum:
>Kurikinton
>London March
>Arashi no Saxophone 2
>maybe Ketchaku R (Omega Rugal's 98 theme)
Honestly can't remember either. Some people claim it was something really wonky like Big Blue, but I can't remember a time when Big Blue was ever allowed in any tournament.
I *think* it was Green Greens? There was some leeway with that stage when the competitive Melee scene was just starting
there are actually people that think melee made evo.. this kinda really pisses me off holy shit what a bunch of dumb newfags
Melee is the only fucking game I've ever seen where the playerbase cares more about e-celeb twitter gossip drama than the actual game itself.
>the Ken trailer for Ultimate literally has a direct reference to Evo Moment 37
>in game Ken will always do a parry animation when he starts Shippu Jinrai to further reference it
>BUT NO IT WAS MELEE THAT MADE EVO AND NOT 3RD STRIKE WITH A MOMENT SO LEGENDARY EVEN PEOPLE THAT DON'T KNOW WHAT STREET FIGHTER IS HAVE HEARD ABOUT IT
I shouldn't be this angry over something so small but the fucking AUDACITY of it
Because the game has been stale for over a decade
>implying french bread is big enough to pay for slots
>implying French Bread has any money to even pay for its monthly office rent and utility fees
Goddamn, the Meleefag salt is so delicious.
My actual only complaint about the line up is no Guilty Gear, but it's understandable, the same guys have been in the top 8 for years, like melee. Time for something new.
It's definitely up there as one of the worst fanbases in gaming, alongside Undertale, Souls and Bethesda.
Based SamSho sending stinky meleefags seething
The Melee community has an insane cult-like view of its top players. Whenever I'm on Twitter and a tournament is about to come up, some of my Mele fanatic friends always retweet like dozens of fan art works of the fucking players.
To be fair, there's hero worship in all fighting game and competitive communities, but none of them are anywhere near as servile and worshipping to the top players as the Melee community.
>Day of the soap
As an 4/Ultimatefag, I'm just glad Evo is willing to give us a chance at all.
>smash made evo
I wish I could see Daigo's face reading this.
Is Hbox always such a grandstanding fag? Acts like he got shot in the chest.
Yes
He's a twitch streamer. Their whole careers is built around over dramatizing and pandering.
Kongo Jungle? Rainbow Cruise? These ringing any bells?
I know Melee had some serious leniency in its early ruleset.
Because SamSho is a better fighting game than literally any other fighting game, SNK just has no money for a good artstyle now.
>no one cares about that game
More entrants than DB or BBtag. The disrespect SS gets is awful, the series is a classic and SNK are trying their hardest to make a name for themselves again. Comes off like people know UNIst will have people standing up for it so throw shade elsewhere.
Melee has been at EVO for what, like 5 years max? It also ruined EVO because it made them so much money that Mr. Wizard became a fucking money hungry kike that's making EVO all about E-SPOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRTTTSSSSS than fun competition.
there's nothing weird about that reaction, especially considering the circumstances.
are you autistic or something?
Tekken players.
It's fun like Tekken but you don't have to input the Konami code to walk backwards.
Hello underage twitch zoomer, taken any money from daddy's wallet so that MadDickSucker69 can say your name on stream?
Get fucked and cry more, arrogant GG nigger. Karma is a bitch, isn't it?
Why is it that Meleefags are so quick to make accusations (on the basis of no evidence at all) that SamSho and UNIST devs paid to have their games get slots at Evo? Like, do they realize how completely retarded and ignorant they sound when they make those allegations?
Whatever Chinese company bought SNK did so before SNK made KOF14, and we all know how much in the way of high-budget production values that game had (which is to say, very little). Furthermore, Meleefags cite games like SNK Heroines getting PC ports, which is fucking dumb evidence because nobody bought the port. It currently has barely 30 players online now. So, no, they're not rolling in Chinese money. Applying the allegations that French Bread paid for an Evo slot is even dumber, because French Bread is as poor as a company can be.
The way so many Meleefags immediately accused SNK and French Bread of paying their way into Evo was just so jarring. Everyone of these drones reflexively came up with the exact same argument. It's like a hivemind.
All tag games are kusoge.
Because they're desperate and refuse to change with the times.
>longstanding
>5 years
Fuck outta here.
>no one cares about samurai showdown and it'll die the moment it comes out
imagine actually believing this, just kys underage faggot
>melee
>ever making money
Lmao maybe if you are the to but thats just about it
He's wrong about no one cares part but he's right about it dying
>1. it just doesn't look that great.
>2. most people don't know it, it is very niche.
>3. those that do only know it, but haven't played it (me, and i'm on fightcade)
>4. the trailer really, really didn't look that great
>5. see points 1 & 4
the memes are rotting your brain kid. evo is a huge prestige tourney. one that players look forward to every year, and he's the top competitor and it's his livelyhood too.
how autistic do you have to be to not understand that reaction?
because they don't know better.
but i do think it's very plausible in the case of samsho.
>Whatever Chinese company bought SNK
>Whatever Chinese company
why the fuck would you think it'll do well?
someone explain the appeal to me. is the gameplay just that unique?
It is even sillier when you realise other games could easily outbid UNIst for the spot. The list didn't read like an attempt to maximise profits. They simply don't know these series, and when they realise one fanbase is getting too defensive attack another game.
Honestly I could even accept they did pay to get in. But why would I be upset about a classic game reboot getting a chance at EVO? Especially when it looks good. If it turns out shit and melee skipped a year then that is hardly the end of the world. Melee has huge tournaments every month and is always going on about how they don't need EVO. Seems to just feed into their overall bad attitude.
>muh classic
Shut the fuck up. SamSho is fucking awful and always has been. If you design your game so that the only winning move is to literally not play the game, it's fucking shit. Fuck off retard.
Wanna know how I know you don't play games?
The funniest thing about all of this to me is that as soon as Meleefags and their “muh grassroots” were faced with UNIST, a game that has spent the last few years clawing its way out of poverty, they immediately target it. I understand they’re autistic but can they really not see the irony?
It's just EVO, why are they so mad? There's like a million other fighting tourneys
>follow scrubquotes twitter account
>he tweets a post calling meleefags autists as if it was wrong
>unfollow
French Bread laying down the dosh for sure. That’s a fortune 500 compnay if I ever saw one.
You might be able to buy a 20 piece nugget with the entire value of French Bread as a company
because it's the biggest tourney from an outside perspective, so it's by far the best for getting exposure.
>they immediately target it.
examples?
>the virgin Rushdown nigger vs. the Chad footsies master
>the only winning move is to literally not play the game
Then how are you gonna get damage retard
It really does prove the divide in the community. I haven't seen mad GG players, DoA are a little upset but generally amicable and not even anything from MvCfags. Even if they don't know or care about the other games it is what it is. Yet a game with 5 years of being a main game, and I think a sunday game for most of it throws a fit.
>is the gameplay just that unique?
Yes actually but it'll porobably still die, doesn't have the normie appeal of SF, MK or Tekken
I wish 2D sprites weren't dying out, Samurai Shodown would look better with them. Nothing about the cheap looking 3D graphics make it stand out
>examples?
Christ is this really what you think?
Btfo
Nah he's just a nigger that is sad his cancerous Rushdown playstyle is punished in Samurai Showdown games.
>Melee lives RENT FREE in the """FGCfags""" mind even when it's cut from EVO
this is so adorable, please do keep going with the stink meme, it's all you have after all~
>Ultimate
>Anything like Melee
This is the biggest meme of all time, ultimate is just as shitty and smash 4 was and I am not even a meleefag. It's just the only good smash game.
So is that anime poverty fighter actually good?
Me
He's right tho.
>Ultimatefags hate Melee
>when every single good thing about the game can be traced back to design decisions from Melee, and then brought back by pleading Melee fans so that Smash could be good again
wew
It has the 4th most entrants right now my friend
Twitter screencaps should be banned.
eh, out of those one the bottom middle on in the OP is straight up shitting on them. the others are just ignorance or comparing them through their community size. and in that case melee being a bigger game is just a fact.
*Ultimatefags hate Meleefags
Oh wait
*Everyone hates Meleefags
>ultimate is good
Man I love games with 1000 frames input buffer
It seems good, but my problem with anime poverty games is trying to get into it when there aren't many people left playing at your noob skill level. Crosstag was lots of fun because I started at launch and was able to slowly improve and climb up the ladder. Getting shit on by vets does not help me improve
Damn, I can smell you from here.
SMASHFAGS CONFIRMED TOO SMELLY FOR EVO
> Dean
Who is this person? No really, who is he? Is he a player? I know Twitter drama threads are all about Cruise Control and chanting "WE WON", but literally who is this guy?
Melee was never truly a part of the FGC.
This, the only one who pays for their spots are NetherRealm. I don't like their fighting games but WB bucks really help set all these tournaments up.
>Fnaf
>toby fox's games
This.
I don’t think kingdom Hearts is anywhere near the other three. KH fans are typically pretty chill from my experiences, even on here.
It's not a fighting game. By definition, it can't be part of the FGC, no more than competitive Quake can be part of the FGC.
Not necessarily all in the same direction. I’m entering a Tekken and SC tournament this weekend but my main game is Calibur, I just like to support other games. I’m 100% pot monster for Tekken.
Her sprite is new like the RWBY cast? gdi arcsys it looks fucking nice.
Replace KH with Final Fantasy 15
I've said this before but Melee is more like the WWE than actual wrestling. It's about the drama, the bullshit the way the characters interact. Sure they are talented and do some impressive stuff but its all for show and nobody -wants- to be in the WWE, just watch and be a part of the hype.
Melee is the WWE
Also ignoring this, melee has a cancerous fanbase. Remember when meleefags stunk (literally and figuratively) up some other fighting game tourney by booing it and chanting "melee" or some shit? And before you think that its just the young crowd who did that, the game is almost 18 years old. These people are grown fucking men who can't bathe, bitch and moan and just wanna watch their video game WWE simulator. These are some of the most mentally damaged, pathetic, smelly chromosome collectors in the world. Which is sad because melee, the game itself, is obviously good but it attracted the worst of people.
Only a melee autist would argue otherwise
They feel ~*disrespected*~
AH4 will be at EVO 2020 or 2021.
CTB is gonna promote the fuck out of six stars and 4.
>>when every single good thing about the game can be traced back to design decisions from Melee, and then brought back by pleading Melee fans so that Smash could be good again
such as? most of the improvements over 4 has take more from Brawl of all things
lmao you wish
You know how SNK paid MrWiz off for KoF14 in 2018?
twitter.com
A picture of Whip, they didn't get into EVO 2018. I guess they were saving the big bucks for SamSho, the smaller series.
>puff
>Icies
>defensive play is looked down upon cuz it ruins muh hype so much they wanna ban a character over it
I'm sure Wiz got a paycheck either way, but I'd imagine MK11 would have got in with or without a paycheck since it's the first year it's out.
they are.
the problem is probably that they've always been too large to MERGE with the fgc. melee doesn't need to and the fgc didn't want to take in such a large but different game.
so they kept each other at arms length
>using a fucking picture of a girl as evidence that they paid off Mr. Wizard
Reaching rock bottom here, Meleefags.
SamSho is a classic, but it is weird to me that a game that doesn't have a release date is going to be at Evo compared to something that'll have been out for a few months DoA. I guess the real question is why the fuck is BB in it again?
Day of Soap on a Rope
Didn't the same fucking thing happen with BB Tag? It wasn't out yet but months before it was on Evo 2018, it was put in the roster of mainstage games.
Imagine being one of the meleefags that actually make it to tourneys. HBox, Armada, Leffen(or did he ragequit knowing he is washed up?) and having to tell your mommy who still pays your bills at the ripe age of fucking 35 that your video game tourney was cancelled and having to hear her yell at you for not going to college or getting a real job.
I don’t understand why meleefags are such retards. Like I never talked to a hardcore SF fan that thought 4 was better than 3, and not many like 5 more than 4, but it’s the new game and people like playing new shit so they go play new shit. And if the new shit is an abject disaster like MVCI they evidently would rather play nothing at all than the old shit. Yet Melee fans exist in this world where everyone should be lugging around CRTs and 20 year old consoles to cater to their tastes.
Hi barry
Brah the game got a 5 year run, most games do not get that. Melee players need some fucking perspective.
Is there a large EVO-type event for arena shooters because i would drop 1k on a plane ticket in an instant for that
Quakecon?
When's the vocaroo?
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Yes. It could be argued that it was to curry favor with Arcsys over DBFZ support at Evo, but at this point I almost feel like they are fellating Arcsys a bit too much.
I don’t know what the restrictions are but evo has a room where people can run whatever the fuck they want
Might just be restricted to just fightans though.
Because you can't win by just using a broken controller
Cause DoA has never been a big competitive series. If it wasn't for the core values incident no one here would be pushing it and calling it SJW trash reeee. SS still has tournaments and there is a bigger chance it will have some presence for a while.
I think they make plenty from twitch subs desu
tourney winnings were only substantial income before twitch really took off now it's just a tasty bonus
Isn't sitting back and collecting sub money why zero stopped competing?
As someone that loves to play and watch Melee, I could give 2 shits about EVO dropping the game. The people getting pissed off about this are just generic sheep that follow whatever there is to get pissed off about anyways. I love how so many people are saying that SNK bought their way in with this unreleased game without knowing that they just came back from bankruptcy.
Here's an idea, Mr Wiz and the FGC in general don't really like the Melee community and decided to drop it now that there's a Smash game backed by Nintendo bucks that isn't as boring as shit to play and watch. Maybe the samurai game got in to help out a dev that has fallen on tough times and as a way to thank them for being such an integral part of the FGC? No, obviously they got paid off. Lmao, fuck Meleefags. Such a fun competitive game ruined by the most autistic loudmouthed fanbase
How does it feel that your entire community abandoned MvC3 to suck on corporate dick and play MvCI? You don't have the right to talk shit.
DoA5 had tournaments up through like last year m8
It’s not huge but there is a core scene
I thought that the whole point of 6 was to make steps to move it toward a more competitive scene?
>Melee players need some fucking perspective.
well true. they are extremely entitled when it comes to evo and a small part of me enjoys seeing them suffer after their constant retarded comments shitting on evo and saying that they don't need it.
>they just came back from bankruptcy
With a large backing of Chinese money, so of course they bought their way back in.
People like HBox won't make it on twitch because nobody wants to watch that shit crusted prolapsed anus. With melee finally being put down these guys will be forgotten. They don't have a 401K, they don't have PTO, they don't have consistent income. These man children will run out of money just as fast as that Wind Waker guy did and he was pretty set from twitch until he went full tranny.
Let the man children throw their fucking fit. They know they are going to go broke soon -and- their twitch career will die since they have zero personality unlike the younger crowd. Nobody wants to watch a 40 year old man sperge about some game older than you.
>tfw a huge chunk of UNIST players are also melty blood players, the embodiment of poverty
The UNIST main stage will probably be them playing on a really fancy trash bin
>I love how so many people are saying that SNK bought their way in with this unreleased game without knowing that they just came back from bankruptcy.
Exactly. This is what the NPC meme is used for. All of the Meleefags who just immediately and instinctively reached out for this excuse and allegation is basically an NPC. None of them even thought about how dumb these arguments sound. They just instinctively blurt them out.
Because Meleefags want to feel like special snowflakes. They want to be the only one with the 'grassroots community' backstory, so when UNIST shows up they feel threatened, like a territorial animal.
I really hope top players like Crow and Hishigata make it to Evo. I would totally contribute to a donation drive to help get these players tickets to the US.
You clearly haven't been on /khg/ or any of the Yea Forums threads. They're pure autism.
Then why didn't they try to get KoF in last year?
Like a cornered, dying dog really.
>DoA5 had tournaments up through like last year m8
And SS2 launched in like 1994 and still gets tournaments. I don't think DoA6 was completely undeserving of a spot, but really the only advantage I see is it is releasing earlier. But not even early enough to see if it has a lasting scene. which could also drop off before EVO
The marketing has been a mixed bag
>smash made evo
lol this is the brain of someone who plays nintendo games
Isn’t Hbox an engineer
Or was that Mango
I don’t follow these chucklefucks but I rememeber some comment about it at E3 or something
>Claims to be an engineer
>Could be doing real work and benefiting society
>Is a degenerate wasting their professor's time and their parent's money that went to tuition
HMMMMM
ofcourse the subhuman smelly unwashed neets of Yea Forumsintendo love smarsh
So is anyone actually going to EVO this year?
I plan on participating in SCVI bracket, but fully expect to go 0-2, I haven't had the chance to play for the past 2 months because I've been ultra busy with work. It'll clear up in 2-3 weeks, so I'm hoping to get back into it and catch up.
Fighting games don't normally last that long at EVO, especially when there are new iterations they just end up replacing old games for the new games.
People who actually watch EVO know this, so it comes as no surprise that they chose the new smash game over THE 15 YEAR OLD ONE. What Smashfags have to realize is that they're lucky their game even lasted this long in the lineup.
If they manage to maintain a community with a megacorp like Nintendo and the entirety of the FGC seething and behaving adversarial for the majority of the game's lifespan, it should be praised. Props to them for giving an example of what you can do when you don't want to suck corporate cock all day.
I'm personally looking forward moreso to Samsho.
It'd be nice to have a SF4 technical fighting game again.
Its a Disney/FF crossover with edgy OCs, are you blink to the tism that attracts?
>Being this retarded
That's not how it happened at all. The melee scene was HUGE before it hot into EVO, itngit even bigger once it got in though.
I think what annoys me is that Melee has been on the main event stage for a good few years now. Even new games get removed after 1-2 years, so I don't know why they're bitching about melee finally leaving to give some newer games exposure. Like fuck, there's still your majors and there'll probably be someone hosting a melee side tourney at EVO itself if they really wanted it.
As someone that has been in the Smash scene since like 2010, Melee and Smash in general hasn't been a grassroots thing for years now. Hell even after the EVO donation drive/documentary combo that brought in an influx of new people it was still fairly underground. It wasn't until around 2015 that esports really took over and the community was irrevocably fucked into what it is today
The entire modern community is based around the celebrity worship of these "gods" (a term directly ripped from the FGC lmfao) of Melee. Everything that goes on in the scene has to be WWE/anime in the eyes of these gormless nerds. Most of them don't even play Melee they just like to laugh at Hbox popoffs, call Leffen a "cool anime villain", and dickride everything Mango says and does.
GUYS Im back from an alternate timeline! I just watched the final match of melee at EVO 2019! It was Hbox puff vs. Armada Fox on Battlefield! WHO WOULD HAVE THOUGHT THIS WOULD HAPPEN?! I NEVER WOULD HAVE GUESSED THIS WOOOOOOOOOW Hbox loses to a technically. He got coached midmatch
Sorry your timeline didn't get melee EVO but I hope this news surprises you and shows you how the meta would have shifted and all the new blood that would have came of it. Also the venue smells like 18 year old garbage mixed with Leffen's tears.
you're looking forward to it but all the rest of comments from nintentards online and even here in this thread are silly and honestly embarrassingly ignorant regarding samurai shodown
It's pretty fucking bad. People actually give a shit about that contrived plot that spans like 8 different consoles and won't shut the fuck up about how KH2FM is the mona lisa of action games
SS probably did have some behind-the-scenes dealings, honestly. Not something as clear-cut "here's some money get us into Evo and KILL SMELEE" but as far as brand awareness/marketing goes SNK benefits a lot from having a brand new game at Evo. An extreme example would probably be MvCI, where what was left of its competitive community basically evaporated after it didn't get into Evo. It's not scummy the way Meleefags make it out to be, it's just the way things are. Plus even if SS was rejected, I'd say that DoA6 and GG would have had priority over Melee anyway.
This is honestly one of the most admirable things about the Melee community. They recognized that the first couple sequels to their games were shit and Nintendo could care less about them, so they stuck with the game that they actually found fun. I guarantee you if Nintendo actually backed Brawl tournaments with big money like Capcom does with SFV everyone would've moved on from Melee years ago and Melee would be a well-remembered legacy game in the same vein as 3rd Strike CvS2 or MvC2
It was actually reposted. Check the archives
I mean you can have a job and also a hobby
Smash is not a fighting game, and most importantly not part of the fgc. By that i dont mean its easy or not competitive, it just doesnt follow the same game design and basics of fightig games, the community has its own memorable moments and the number of exclusive smash players who started with smash but also ventured into other fightan seriously are a handful, the only reason its on evo its because of what they can get from the massive playerbase
*image of 23 sora cosplayers of varying ages, genders and physiques sitting in a circle playing spin the bottle at any con from the late 2000s*
if you post this 10 more times maybe it'll become true
Kids don’t remember that everyone DID move on from melee or dropped Smash when Brawl came out until the doc revived them. Y’all were having 12 man side brackets at regionals.
I’ve got nothing bad to say about the game but melee players should appreciate how lucky they’ve been this far with their game and getting a second shot instead of acting like they’re an immortal god.
>smash made evo
I mean I hate the Melee scene just as much as anyone else, but I never got the "Smash isn't a fighting game" shit, why the fuck are they so butthurt about this?
What's wrong about what he posted? Smash isn't fgc, there's minimal crossover from top Smash players into fighting games. (Name 1 person besides Leffen) Its a platform fighter/brawler that centers around stage control and movement
I'm not a smash 4 player.
Chris G was a Brawl player. It’s where he learned to run a clock.
Not arguing with your point though.
Don't bully him. he apologized
Is this fool implying Nintendo didn't pay for their Smash slot? Why the fuck would anyone want two Smash games in the main lineup? Meleefags are entitled manchildren.
I mean yeah if you were he would probably need to be actually near you to smell you
This whole debacle is crazy. Theres like two retards on twitter saying dumbass shit like "what's sam shodown" and everyone is just blowing it out of the proportion. They're so insecure about the fact that people prefer a older more technical game that they are filled with genuine excitement from this. None of these people care that theres no marvel, no KOF, no guilty gear. They are just casual fucks who are the reason evo is so shit nowadays. None of these fucks have ever gone to evo and just parrot some shit mcrib said on twitter about melee fans wanting BO5 in pools and a reddit post from fucking zero. I've seen a 9/1 ratio of people talking about how salty melee fans are and how butthurt they are too actual melee fags talking about the situation at all.
Brawl is not a smash game
Didn't this guy drop his career as engineer to be a Melee pro? How big of a financial hit can this be for him?
It was heavily hinted at previously, too, but a lot of Melee players have gone bonkers.
I'm so hype for this game. SamSho is the one fighting game from SNK I love.
No worries meleechads I just happen to be hosting a tournament the same weekend as that shitty evo. Located at mangos house, the summit .5 house guys! Team beer!!! Itll have all the big boys armada, dr pp, mango, and yours truly. And dont worry I definetly won't win its PPs turn! We'll have melee themed decorations and everything. And the best part? YOU DONT EVEN HAVE TO SHOWER! 60 dollar entrance fee so make sure to get mommy's credit card!
Considering he would be the favorite to win he just lost out on thousands of dollars so that Evo can host a game literally no one plays (because it's not out yet)
Im not saying I disagree with the decision to remove melee but I understand his Hbox's point of view.
u wot
this is absurd if you know A N Y T H I N G about evo or the fgc.
exposure for what though? the stale gameplay of melee, the toxic community behind it, or the same top ten dominating the tourney like the autists are?
>me thinks mvc3 is dead
For a meleefag who spouts that their game never needed evo you sure are close minded and don't realize there are other big fighting game events
I don't want to defend any fanbase, but how is Ultimate better than Melee (not counting roster and, arguably, gameplay)?
>not counting roster and, arguably, gameplay
>you got to live long enough to see BASED Samurai Shodown not only make its thrilling return, but it also managed to kill Melee on its way back in
best timeline
exposure to cool gameplay. although yeah it's been getting stale at the top when it isn't axe or amsa.
but outside of top 8 that energy is still there.
well not counting how it's a better game, it also doesn't require extremely specific ancient hardware that no other game uses
>how is Ultimate better than Melee
>(not counting gameplay)
>every single good thing about the game can be trasced back to design decisions from Melee
>when everyone agrees the game is much closer to Smash 4 than Melee
>when melee players recognize Smash 4 players have much more experience and familiarity with the mechanics
EVO Japan's GG tournament was hype as fuck, it didn't really matter that a lot of familiar names where there. The game still has plenty more excitement and room to grow, far more than something like Melee.
Next time, read the thread before making your “hurr durr twitter” post.
What is incorrect there?
I said smash players that started with smash, almost everyone in the fgc tries smash at some point, but no classic smash player try fighting games
This, there is much more competitive GG scene overseas, they have streamed tourneys you can watch all the time. I'm surprised GG had been at evo that long honestly
SHOT THROUGH THE HEART AND YOU'RE TO BLAME, YOU GAVE MELEE A BAD NAME
yes, just watch him winning evo
yeah he dropped his engineering job because he thought melee would never die
Salem got kicked out of liquid lmao. Melee is on the right side of history.
I'll assume for the moment that you just phrased that question very poorly and aren't actually as dumb as you look. Not counting roster or gameplay, Ultimate is:
- Easier for audiences to follow (while still requiring mastery of the game to perform well)
- Doesn't require a ton of very old and sometimes difficult-to-procure hardware to be hauled around whenever you want to host a tournament
- Fresher (and the game is newer, too)
>smash made evo
Street Fighter made evo.
You have to be seriously delusional to ignore the history of the event this hard.
Armada actually just cashed in while Melee was hyped and invested into Alliance and other things making a bunch of money to live off comfortably. The rest however are idiots.
Whew... do you smell that?
I'm pissed that Hungrybox, the biggest faggot on earth, will go down as the ultimate Melee champ and the reason that entire community died.
>it got replaced by the game's devs paying for a slot
Do these fuckers not realize that Nintendo was paying for Melee to be in EVO for years now?
Don't bitch about "buying slots" when buying slots the only reason why Melee was around to begin with.
well unist playercount has doubled since the announcement. can't imagine what the actual tournament will do for them
I love SamSho but let's be honest, it doesn't have a lot of life ahead of it.
It's not SF, DBZ or the latest ArcSys game so it will never gain traction beyond this first EVO.
Nintendo hates Melee idiot, they want you to buy the newest console and newest game
OLD BAD
NEW GOOD
I DO WHAT EVERYONE ELSE DOES
Just goes to show your community can't handle the dumbest form of banter without throwing a tantrum.
>Smash made EVO.
No, EVO moment #37 made EVO.
It takes a massive lack of awareness to think melee was just gonna get to be in evo forever
Nintendo kept Melee alive during Smash 4's lifespan because they understood that 4 was a mistake that was still held back by Sakurai's anti-competitive tendencies, so they needed something to complement it on a core, competitive level.
Ultimate on the other hand is being pushed as a competitive title by virtually everybody behind it, so it makes sense that Nintendo would try to consolidate their competitive presence in EVO onto this one game.
What about the 9.7k people who liked this tweet?
>They prioritized games that paid them to be there instead of viewership or community support and thats sad but its also reality.
For the most part they've been pretty understanding, since Melee's been on its way out over the past year, and Ultimate is fun enough that a lot of top players are getting ready to move on. Hungrybox's response is hilarious though because his playstyle hasn't translated well to any other Smash game and no one likes him enough for Twitch/Youtube to be a viable source of income like it is for guys like Mango and Plup, so the death of Melee means his career is in jeopardy.
Is this the highest IQ match ever
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They keep saying this like Samsho hasn't got great entry volume for the event.
>hates melee
First off, that's a fucking stretch. A huge stretch.
Second, Nintendo was still paying for a Melee slot.
Third, Ultimate clearly has multiple nods to Melee gameplay and builds off of it. How much more pandering do you want?
The mindgames on display here are on a level you will never fully grasp.
Why don't they have an EVO classic type tournament?
SSBM
SF3
Samurai Shodown 2
King of Fighters 98
Guilty Gear X
Mortal Kombat 2/3 who cares they all suck
Rival Schools
Bloody Roar
MvC2
Soul Calibur
DoA 2
>How much more pandering do you want
Momentum and at least slightly higher hitstun.
If the game had these it would be perfect.
I swear if you bring up Sonic i'm gonna fucking find you
Bath time Smelee babies.
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Hahahaah jesus christ melee fags really are autistic. Take a shower my guy
I wouldn't be surprised if it ends up low, but that is SNK games in general. They are smaller communities. But I think a big part of the FGC is giving those smaller communities a chance. Cause really we are all small. EVO should be expanding to give more of them a big presence.
Like why not create a sub main game category which has slightly higher limit than side tournaments? It could really help some series out
Nintendo did not do anything for melee besides allow the game to be played, which they almost didnt until the donation drive.
Fuck leffen, hes a retard and one of the biggest dumbasses in melee. Any tweets he makes about evo is stupid and is always used as the voice for the scene when lots of people disagree. Also for you fucks, no one thinks uniel payed to get in, just that theres a chance Sam Shodown may have because it is interesting that there wont even very a playable demo for a month yet the games there. If anything I think it's worth discussion at least.
>yeah he dropped his engineering job because he thought melee would never die
I viewed him dropping to the floor as "Oh fuck, how am I going to make money now? I made a huge mistake."
Maybe I'm reading in to it too much, dude is prone to crying
It's essentially fundamentals:the game. Depending on the swing, the defensive posture of the other player, and the character, a single heavy attacking special can destroy most of a health bar. Samsho is tense as fuck and can have massive swings in momentum.
Basically this. It doesn't really have combos like most fighting games and instead relies mostly on mindgames and spacing.
Which of course can lead to shit like this but hopefully the new game will have systems in place to prevent matches like that.
Ultimate is better than melee in almost every way possible.
Melee was my first Smash but I will not deny Ultimate is better and I would rather play it.
For me it's
Ultimate>Melee>>Brawl>Sm4sh>>Smash64
>Any tweets he makes about evo is stupid and is always used as the voice for the scene when lots of people disagree
Apparently 9k people doesn't represent anything but okay. I guess none of your top players do when it is inconvenient
>just that theres a chance Sam Shodown may have because it is interesting that
Prove if smeleefag instead of going around accusing games. Also how come they didn't pay to get kof in last year? There was even DLC to advertise.
Multiple local guys LITERALLY arguing that French Bread paid for their spot and are currently spinning absurd narratives about how it’s possible, there really are people that stupid.
But that limits the competitive roster only to the fastest and hardest-hitting picks, because everyone who moves slower is just going to get bounced around and everyone who relies on counters is ultimately going to get blasted every game.
You know, it's kinda funny, the stuff that Meleefags want more of us the exact same stuff that everyone else doesn't want.
Anyone have that webm of the Melee autist throwing the EVO trophy away after being awarded it?
Except it's meleefags who are huge manchildren that sperg over the tiniest changes even if it's good and makes for a more balanced game.
I miss before esports and it was just niggers stabbing each other because of MvC2 money matches.
A ton of slow characters would greatly benefit from ground-to-air momentum.
I'm a Kirby main and lemme tell you, if Kirby could move at the same speed in the air as he does on the ground, he would jump up at least two tiers. His air speed is ludicrously pitiful and drags him down substantially. And the same applies for other slower characters.
Ironically the faster characters in the game would probably benefit less from this change since their ground-to-air speeds are much closer to eachother than the slow characters'.
user, I've just turned 38, and I thought that competitive video game playing had passed me by since I grew up in an era where tournaments were mostly local. But when I saw a new Samsho, and at EVO no less, it lit a fire under me like nothing I've felt since I was a young man. Hyped as fuck.
This feels really good.
Nigger what the fuck are you talking about? The melee community is literally the exact opposite and you're just proving his point.
Melee fans could be given a new Smash game that is just Melee with a bigger roster and new graphics and they'd still complain that it's not melee and that melee is the only true Smash. Then they'd bitch that melee pros aren't taken seriously, even though there is literally no change in the pro roster over the years. You fuckers even lost Sky Williams as a commentator because he got bored with the scene, and that nigga still plays League.
That's fine, but the comment i'm responding to is him describing guys who say SF4 sucks and SF5 really sucks, but they still move on and play those despite thinking those games are trash comparison to Third Strike.
If you think the new game is actually bad, why the fuck play the new game? Just because it's new? Because it's what everyone else is doing?
>how is Ultimate better than Melee (not counting roster, gameplay, features, balance, graphics, music, stages and being easier to set up on modern hardware)?
Sadly Japs just couldn't compete with Western esport athletes anymore.
>Melee fans could be given a new Smash game that is just Melee with a bigger roster and new graphics and they'd still complain that it's not melee and that melee is the only true Smash.
I'm not a smashfag and I think they're retarded, but I admire the fact that a large portion of them refuse to play the new games just because "lul they're new".
Where? There's no esport I've ever seen where East Asians aren't the dominant factor.
>Jigglypuff Bair'd Melee out an EVO slot
I don't know whether Hbox should be considered a menace or a hero in this situation
if only it would look even remotely like this. it looks like a game from a 30$ console with 29 pre-loaded games.
>Melee died for a designated shill spot and an actual fighting game?!
Yes
>hbox kills melee
>mad when EVO doesn't want to give him a free paycheck
I dont like hbox but goddamn get your facts right fucking idiots.
Yeah, fuck those SEETHING viewers who don't want to watch a slow boring tournament that consists of camping until the timer runs out and double fuck those non smelly pro players who left for a more enjoyable game. I'm going to watch Hungrybox win for the next ten tournaments before my scene ends and like it, deal with it incels
for people who always go on about footsies and stinky boats the FGC holds hygiene in pretty high regard huh
Mr Wiz is clever. All this salt and vitriol could easily be used next year to help justify their exclusion again.
>you guys could get melee HD and still pretend melee is the only true smash
Cold hard evidence that you don't know shit about the melee community
Salem was right
I dabble in melee, and I do like the game, but the absolute delusion that they don't need Evo or Evo will come "crawling back". Evo gave them a huge platform to grow and essentially gave their game and community a second wind, way to show some fucking appreciation to the tournament that gave you a chance. They even got a send-off; not even super turbo (also 6 consecutive years) didn't even get that.
Leave it to a bunch of autismos to take a respectful good bye as an offense. If you didn't need Evo then why are you so fucking butt blasted?
God I don't know why it triggers me so much.
KHfags can't take any criticism
I'm not saying Melee deserve to be at Evo
But UNIST certainly doesn't and the same goes for SamSho which is only going to release in like June or some shit
did they finally bring back running momentum when jumping? that was a major problem with every smash since melee.
>Guilty Gear X
>Soul Calibur 1
u wot
They also just output a lower res image which is upscaled by the monitor/TV, which will usually introduce fairly noticeable lag. Not autist-tier "muh half-frame" bullshit but something average players can feel. The Gamecube only outputs 480p at most, after all.
>the same one player
ftfy
Obvious bait idiot
>they even got a sendoff
It was a "don't let the door hit you on your way out"
Don't fucking pretend that shit was respectful.
>But UNIST certainly doesn't
how come
Fucking THIS
Never did
unist absolutely deserves it. it's been on the up and up and this is a great help.
I don't follow FGC shit too closely, why do competitive fags prefer GG and cross tag or blazblue?
yeah, for people that don't like skilled games. hopefully they just have bb first so i can skip that trash
over cross tag*
I personally don't like guilty gear, x or otherwise, but I equate it with all of the more modern anime fighters. I threw soul Calibur in because it was a big deal when it came out.
Forgot Virtua Fighter 4 though
Going from 30 players to 40 players is still "up and up" but that doenst justify you being at fucking EVO
Because it plays differently. I wouldn't expect every ST player to want to move on to SF3.
The self-entitlement is crazy though. They deserve this tarring and feathering for that.
GG only started to get relatively popular with Accent Core and SC2 made a bigger deal because it was multiplatform and muh Link.
blazblue is just different, but bbtag is a watered down game (simple imputs) and elitists don't like that. haven't played it myself though
I was a TO for a SmashU launch party, and we had Project M and Melee set up. We ended up getting 900 attendees.
Anyway, these fucking faggots are absolute monsters.
First of all, the Melee players were absolute cunts. They were rude as FUCK and I wanted to remove a handful of them just for being so disrespectful.
Dont fucking piss off the people who organized your precious autism tournament.
Another thing that was wild, we ended up with 8 broken gamecube controllers by the end of the night. Fucking 8.
These idiots would SLAM the analog sticks left and right and the speed of light during the fucking loading screens, and in between deaths. Like, guys, what the FUCK are you doing? And why are ALL OF YOU doing it?! You're literally not playing the game at the moment, so why the fuck are you slamming the analog sticks like god damn crackheads?
And yes, they smelled like shit.
I will agree with you about SS on the grounds that I genuinely believe any game that is not already released by the time the announcements are made should not make the cut for EVO. There will be other tournaments for it. However there is no real reason UNI[st] does not deserve to be there.
well that's lame. i couldn't enjoy brawl partly because of that and partly because of dumb shit like tripping. it just makes the games shallow and less interesting.
Stinkies go homu lmao
Unist 100% deserves it
>Hbox wins every single tournament by spamming back air until the time runs out
>Game is unironically slower than Brawl now thanks to puff
>Armada left months ago for Ultimate
>Mango is washed up and only attends to keep his stream viewers satisfied
>Leffen only shows up on rare occasions that he feels like and probably loses to Hbox anyway
>Wobbling still exists
>Top players consists of meme picks who will just feed free victories to Hbox like Axe and Amsa or trannies
The absolute state of smelly
It plays vastly differently.
From Melee to Brawl and later games is a huge change, that took out a lot of what makes smash so enjoyable as a competitive and spectator game.
Seriously, there is not a single match-up in Brawl, Smash 4, or Ultimate that's exciting as to play or watch than Fox vs Falco in Melee. Not a match-up that even comes close to it.
Nope, Guilty Gear started picking up steam with X and was really big by #Reload, which was more popular than Accent Core ever would be.
Ààààaaa
>These idiots would SLAM the analog sticks left and right and the speed of light during the fucking loading screens, and in between deaths
Dunno about melee, but at the locals and majors I've been to for sf and marvel people would often tap buttons or wiggle the stick a little in the middle of supers, in the middle of the opponent's combos, and between rounds.
Partially psyching themselves up, partially getting themselves into a rhythm. And probably a few people who mistakenly thought it would mess with their opponent's execution.
This accurate in terms of competitive play but Ultimate still lacks the soul of Melee/Brawl
Low-tier
Okay, I never really kept up with guilty gear or soul Calibur but 2 was the last one I played specifically because of muh link/spawn. Either way, I'm not sure why there isn't a side tournament with older versions of the games on the main stage. I mean, of course I understand the main point is to promote new games and sell copies; but the way companies re-release and rehash old games these days you'd think they would be interested in pumping old games. It would even serve as good data. Maybe if a bunch of people tuned in for bloody roar matches, Konami would take note and think about remastering or releasing a sequel.
I never owned a Nintendo or care about Smash but holy shit, Melee players have to be the most pathetic race on the planet
And dont even get me started on the token "Smash player" when I used to work at Home Depot.
He was some cart pusher who got paid to sit in the computer room and look at fucking freaky hentai. This fucking guy didnt even know how to spell his own fucking name. He actually wrote his "L" backwards.
Anyway, he would look up Kirby x Jigglypuff hentai, "thicc kirby", "nakad starfox," nana x Ness and other freaky fucking shit.
He was literally paid to look at hentai for 4 hours. And managment knew, too.
His engineering experience is already in his resume. He'll get no problem making money.
>toadette/bowser jr
Definitely sounds like the average smash 4 player to me
There are chad KH fans and autistic KH fans. I have met both types and fuck go to youtube and seach "kingdom hearts musical"
>tr4shfags hate melee and ultimate chads hate what melee's competitive scene has become
fixed that for you
Holy shit that was great.
lol
Ever talk to him about who his "main" was? Did he pop a tard boner slurring out "Kirby"
Meleefags are upset that more of the 90% of the cast is viable and it doesn't have exploitable bugs
I completely agree.
It's actually weird how, despite claiming that Melee is a fighting game, they never seem to play any other games.
Do any top melee players ever stream or even try other types of fighting games? SF, Tekken, FighterZ, anything?
This is a weird palette swap for the Undertale rant pic
I took about a dozen pictures of his freaky search history
Long overdue
SF occasionally, FighterZ yeah, though Leffen is the only notable Melee player to have a presence in other fighters.
>low tier
Patrician argument
>Melee's competitive scene is dead and boring to watch and should be replaced
His few months before leaving his last position is in his resume. If he includes it, that's one hell of a death knell.
>Fucking Overwatch is better
How to discard your argument in one sentence
what about literally any sport?
SF has always been the main game at evo. How long has each iteration been there?
It's absurd to think that any other game - especially one with a fragmented and very particular playerbase - should deserve as much or more time and presence than the headlining title.
>not wanting to shower at all because I did not the day before
That's some fucking weird neurosis.
That reading comprehension
No, because he was fucking horrifying.
Managment told him to go sweep for a change (after teaching him how a fucking broom works) and he went into the recieving area and literally tried going Super Saiyan. I never seen someone scream with such fucking determination.
Then he was mumbling to himself saying shit like "Wait until you see my true power. This is fucking bullshit. I will destroy all of you."
In one of the many times he locked himself in the bathroom to watch anime (all lot associates did this. Every single one) and he would talk to himself like "I. Am one. With the moon!"
So, fuck that. I wasnt going to paint a target on my dick when he came into the store with a fucking shotgun.
does anyone else have the issue where the first 10 seconds of the audio on a twitter video plays, but then the rest of the video is muted?
>they never seem to play any other games.
So the same as the majority of other fighting game loyalists, then. Only ones who play multiple games at tournament level are rarities like ChrisG, SFox, Wong. All the others, read: the majority, stick to one company or game.
You guys see this shit? How the fuck was it disrespectful?
LMAAAAAOOOOOOOOO
Another game would if EVO's organizers were honest. Instead, for years, the fended off criticism with SF HAS THE MOST ENTRANTS. WHATEVA HAS MOST ENTRANTS IS MAIN STAGE. END OF STORWEE. Well, that turned out to be bullshit. (DBFZ). Should've just said it's all about SF, regardless, from the beginning. Now they're full of shit.
This game looks exactly the same as Super Street Fighter 4
They didn't bother to make it look better?
Toooons of people play different fighting games. Most of them not well but at least proficient; most of them being people you will never see on stream except as the lucky sod who gets to start their 0-2 run with a beatdown by a pro.
In all the weeklies and regionals I've been to, I've yet to meet an anime fighting game player that only plays/has ever played one anime fighting game. Except for those where it's their first fighting game.
I hadn't heard of it. Read a short plot summary. Sounds like a SMT:Persona ripoff. Hollow night? Midnight hour. Voids? Shadows. Only select people perceive them, and are in more danger for doing so? Yeah it's a fucking persona rip. Gay as fuck
liking nakat is definitely freaky
no wait
>People are only just now calling DoA sjw garbage
Is this your first day here?
>never heard of UNIST
that shit is shovelware tier. They should have kept GG at least
>Instead, for years, the fended off criticism with
Entrants will always play a role, as will money from the developer, sponsor interest, etc. Entrants are a reflection of community interest as well - and it's something mcrib made pretty clear is not lacking from the melee community.
These are all factors, but not individually deciding ones.
SF has been a core focus and probably will be barring a major fall from grace for capcom. SF was "the" fighting game and it still has that title, for all of SFV's woes and blunders. They have never, ever shied away from saying that the legacy was part of the reason.
This is the tournament series that enforced console-only rules instead of cabs for SF2 because "we're a console tournament", a tournament series where even mvc wasn't welcome for quite some time.
WAIT A MINUTE.
There's a new Samurai Shodown? Fuck I missed that.
I think a good amount of them play other games casually but as far as I know Leffen is the only top player to compete in other games.
>Why keep playing melee when the superior and complete package is already played?
Because Melee has better gameplay than Ultimate.
This
The trailer has Haohmaru doing a 75% combo too. Attacking backturned opponents, universal parry and a few other things.
Canceling into supers appears to have been added.
Post anime girls getting SOAPED to scare away Meleefags
I bet these same people saying Ultimate is just a better version of Melee think that UNIST is just a better version of Melty
Crossover is very common. Most people are usually playing the big game at the time and then splinter off
>Do any top melee players ever stream or even try other types of fighting games?
Leffen played a fair amount of SF4, Marvel and SF5 but never did particularly well at locals.
He did good in DBFZ tournament placings-wise.
Going the other way around, there's a couple videos of Daigo playing Marth and seeming like he knows what he's doing. Or just really good at imitating something he's seen before.
as a meleefag who didnt enter melee at the last local to focus on ult, this is true
>Japan has HnK-themed body soap ads
Why the fuck did I have to be born on this shithole?
That's because Melee actually requires skill and practise, you can't just pick it up and play it like you can with all those other casual games
Lowest quality bait.
Honestly I would love to see top FGC players pick up melee, maybe not to compete but playing on stream would be fun.
Justin Wong also fucking loves Melee, he sees it as one of the best competitive games of all time.
That was literally samurai fighting IRL in a game
Arigato samurai chad
but why tho, ultimate is really boring to watch compared to melee
>all those Injustice players that went to EVO solely to play Injustice
I've worked with some retards but I think yours takes the cake user.
Best of luck in the world of retail, I did it for many years and the sooner you can get you the better.
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Based
>More mad that it got replaced by game devs paying for a slot
Wasn't there a year where they had to raise a bunch of money to pay their way to the main stage cause they wouldn't let em have it? That's some serious hypocrisy right there.
I think it was 2012 or 2013 but yeah, Melee raised just under $10k for the donation drive to get one of the EVO slots.
I'm confused as to how a community raising money is the same as a dev/publisher paying for a spot. I'm speaking of SamSho, not UNIST. Those fuckers have paid their dues for a while now.
>I'm speaking of SamSho
It's like you meleefags just want people to dislike you.
Motherfucker the game isn't out yet.
Why are we putting a game that isn't out yet into EVO?
you do realise that nintendo wanted to ban melee from being played at evo in 2013.
but the headlines that would create was not worth it.
Cause it is SamSho. Post proof if you are going to make a claim.
> that isn't out yet
So are other games on the list, yet you didn't complain about them. Almost like you fags just repeat each other
It's a nostalgia pick, not a paid one.
The TO liked SamSho in the past and is hyped that it's back, so he's putting it on. Likewise, DBFZ would have gotten a spot no matter what.
Learn the difference.
this
>So are other games on the list
Straight up, I don't think MK11 should be there either, but it will at least have been out for four months before August. We don't even have a release date for Samurai Shodown yet.
people pretending to like "classic" titles make me fucking sick. If any of you cared half as much as you pretend on the internet then you'd show up at goddamn locals or there would be more than the same 10 people on fightcade
>KH fans are typically pretty chill
lol
can Brawlhalla go to EVO ?
>it was the stage
firdt time I hear that.
The city I live in does not have locals and fightcade is a pain in the ass at times. And the last local I went to in a city that had them it was max autistic.
Doesn't stop me from playing SS2, 4, and 6 (honestly never cared for 5s) with the few people I know who play fighters.
The scariest thing for me is the idea that SNK will try to rush SamSho out the door in time for EVO, forgoing any further polishing to make it in time for the 'holiday season'.
Think about how the gaming environment is now, this can happen.
>Straight up, I don't think MK11 should be there either
Yet that isn't the one you jump on. Lets be real, you went for Samsho cause it seems like the safest target to shit on and not because you believe anything you write. MK has a vocal fanbase, UNIst backfired on you guys hard so you go for the next target.
>We don't even have a release date
You must be new to EVO.
ppl in the fgc are full of shit. what's new.
>The scariest thing for me is the idea that SNK will try to rush SamSho out the door in time for EVO,
I was thinking the same thing. Thats exactly what killed KOF14. Not because it wasn't a good game, it was a great fighter, but the lack of visual polish deterred many from checking it out and only the diehard fans bought it.
>Brawl
>Brawl with items ON
>at EVO
Jesus Christ that is absolutely disgusting
>Thats exactly what killed KOF14
Apart from it already looks miles better than that
I didn't jump on MK11 because it's had about a dozen trailers over the last couple months. We just now saw the first gameplay for SamSho.
>huh, this particular fighting game I was playing and built my career on is less popular
>maybe I should move on and learn a new game?
>We just now saw the first gameplay for SamSho.
We saw gamneplay 5 months ago
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This is the best shit ever.
I love meleefag salt so much. Fucking pathetic worms.
>No, because I enjoy playing this game a lot more.
I love how fgc fags always say this but then turn around and bitch about SFV and wish they could just keep playing super turbo
I think it's more imitation, but Daigo is a really quick learner so I wouldnt be surprised if he internalized all the stuff just by watching it, JotarovsDarby style
Leffen sounds like a pretty flexible guy though. Honestly, fighting games aren't SO different that oyu can't move to another unless it's something super esoteric.
It feels like the filter is an attempt to work around lower quality assets and character models.
They've made the right choice.
Yeah, but they can still enjoy it. They can host their own tournaments. It just means they either have to get a real job to help support themselves or learn a new game to become a pro in
> tfw my toaster can't play KOF14 so I didn't buy it
I at least bought 2k2UM as soon as it came out on GOG, as well as XIII.
Was it that long ago? Fuck it then, let it be there. I just hope that when they said Summer 2019 they meant June and not July.
Items were on though, and they played a game on Skyworld of all stages.
Meleefags are autistic as fuck
This is the only fighting game I've wanted to by since 2015. MK11 has good graphics, but they're making the same mistakes they made before. No one cares about the fucking special forces.
>it's another "Kermit goes nuclear with half the replies being some variation of "based" "
Yup. That's gonna be a yikes from me dawg.
It really isn't. If your play Rivals of Aether for a while, the switch to KOF 2k2, the transition is not nearly as jarring as one would assume. Getting used to the movement in Smash and a Tradition game is the biggest barrier to entry, after that combat itself is easy to link and associate.
Or they can keep going to the same tournaments that haven't gone down in payouts. Smash Summit 7 had a payout higher than the 2GG series for Smash 4.
I'd recommend picking up XIV when you can. Sure, it looks like a high res PS2 game, but its really solid.
The picture was the payment user.
The people who play fighting games "competitively" are subhumans.
All of them
cringe as fuck
>Didn't this guy drop his career as engineer to be a Melee pro? How big of a financial hit can this be for him?
Small. Melee has other big tournaments already
melee scene has never been big at any point of it's existence. it's hardly even a real esport.
As opposed to the living gods that are FPS players obviously.
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"New" as in it's probably from the new AH game they were making already, yes.
If I were to be honest: I'm actually fine with games not being the prettiest graphically. If a game is good but has weak visuals. Sure, PS1 Andy is funny to make fun of, but I'm not going to cry a river over the game models if they still do the job.
Excepting SNK Heroines that game is just ugly 0/10 'no way fag'
UNIST is literally just melty without the type moon license.
It's somewhat big compared to Fighting games and even most fps
That certainly explains why Melee gets the second most views at EVO.
if that's your stance then the fgc as a whole is hardly a real esport. As is melee is objectively bigger than than everything except street fighter and sometimes tekken
The entire FGC has known Wizzy takes bribes since Injustice 1 got in several months after the EVO games was announced, but now that Meleefags are the one saying it /vee/ will pretend like it's a conspiracy theory.
>esports
>real
But still, nice multilayered bait
I agree. And I like fighting games. The so-called "pros" are trash and are killing the genre. Them and their followers. Some of funny and insightful. But most of them are autists. I'd bet they don't even like the actual games, 'cause if you listen to them talk about gameplay it's in a robotic, datarized way. They don't even say kicks or punches; they call them by number.
>chessmaster saying "huh, maybe i should play go instead"
>tennis player thinking "huh, maybe i should play baseball instead"
One more day until I go to my melee locals to only play unist.
how much does an evo slot cost? Mr. wizard isn't a millionaire business man so it's probably not alot. If smashies really want their game at evo they should crowdfund themselves in.
>they call them by number
I'm sorry, what? How is using number notation, which is by far the easiest way to talk about combo inputs, showing that you don't like the game?
Deviation from a set schedule can cause anxiety and irritation in people with autism. Despite the stereotype, this varies heavily among people with clinically diagnosed autism and most of those that suffer from autism don't mind change at all or only feel a little uncomfortable. It's not a phobia. Read a book before trying to sound like a smart ass.
anyone else remember the time they had mario kart. I remember.
I dare you to translate any anime combo into whatever the fuck notation you have cooked up.
hbox deserves it if so. imagine ditching something you have worked to for years and a stable job to play a nearly 20 year old video game all day. what little money is in it will run dry eventually