The Good >Possibly the best Pokemon main themes in years >All three starters are likeable characters, most people seem to know which they're going with >UK setting is used well, various landmarks present >British sports will become a key part of gym battles in some form >Pokemon from various gens present
The Bad >No overworld pokemon, random encounters >Upscaled 3DS graphics, barely above Let's Go >15 fps >Linear game map
Anybody else slightly disappointed, but still getting it? I need Scorbunny and Sobble.
I'm not getting it unless it's on par with the best Pokémon games we've had so far. Tired of buying Gamefreak's mediocre trash. That being said, Masuda and Ohmori are producing and directing, so it's probably going to be average at best anyway.
Leo Morgan
>The Bad >>No overworld pokemon, random encounters kys gofag
Brandon Roberts
The fuck you talking about.
All 3 starters suck ass. Samey and boring. Worst starters in pokemon history.
Hunter Garcia
Holy shit. It's like there's pokemon board for millions of pokemon threads.
Jayden Rogers
I'm gonna pirate it early like I did with SM.
Levi Powell
Looks like the worse pokemon game to date but it's basically the only real Switch pokemon game at this point. GF is smart to put out their weak garbage since it'll sell regardless as the first real Switch title.
Charles Morales
No overworld Pokemon has completely killed any hype of this game for me. That's such a misstep on their par6
Lincoln Lee
We virtually know nothing about the game though. It might innovate in some other ways.
I hate all the starters what are u taking about Where is Mupkid reincarnate
Benjamin Taylor
>All three starters are likeable characters, most people seem to know which they're going with The starters are awful, but I wasn't really expecting them to be good. Gen 1 is the only Gen where all 3 starters are likeable.
Henry Hughes
Don't be ridiculous, the graphics are leaps and bounds above those of Let's Go. The environments and characters are much more complex and detailed, there are actual textures and the camera is way more dynamic.
>>Possibly the best Pokemon main themes in years >they're all kawaii uguu designs with round blob heads and round features
Levi Kelly
how about adding 50% price increase as bad
Jacob Hill
>water starter is so deformed people though he was a tadpole instead of a chameleon Its gonna be great.
Justin Fisher
i thought he was a newt, but looking at the hands its obvious now. howd they fuck the eyes so bad.
Kayden Hall
Omg, green chimchar, wide eyed mudkip, and off colored plusle, best starters ever
Christopher Jenkins
Not buying this trash unless it ends up being the hardest pokemon game ever. Which it won't be so fuick it.
James Parker
Random encounters are a good thing. It isn't the best for every type of game but it is perfect for Pokemon. The framerate still has time to improve, the game won't come out until November or December, but of course this is GameFreak so you can't exactly count on it.
I'm fine with no overworld pokemon if they have a system for finding the mon you actually want to find. Rolling dice until you get the result you want isn't skillful or fun. Also I know this isn't gonna happen, but replacing RNG catching with some kind of minigame would be a huge improvement. Like the harder to catch the Pokemon is, the harder the minigame will be. Weakening/Status effecting the minigame somehow. I'm just sick of how many just roll the die until it works shit these games have.
Julian Cook
>Random encounters are a good thing. It isn't the best for every type of game but it is perfect for Pokemon. Why?
Kayden Russell
no random encounters? you can't be serious. I didn't watch the trailers or look deeply into the reveal but keep that bull shit in the lets go spin offs, not main line. such a new shitty norm
Benjamin Diaz
On top of having shit taste, you can't read.
Jose Turner
because pokemon is an rpg, which requires multitudes of battles historically. Random battles pace these battles at a set rate without the player feeling obligated to seek them out. If all battles were manual youd resent having to manually trigger them as you sit there evaluating each fight you see. It puts an additional pressure on your resources, Pokemon health, PP for moves, and items all require management and risk evaluation before pushing through an area where you could have more or fewer encounters than expected.
Zachary Wood
YEA BUT WILL THERE BE COUCH CO-OP AGAIN
Zachary Hall
>no overworld Pokémon, random encounters
the way in which this sentence is constructed is ambiguous at best. comma splicing is never the move.
Levi Cruz
Yeah I'm gunna have to agree with this. I don't really see any that I'm wanting to use. Might be the first starter I release.
Aaron Torres
>Random encounters are a good thing. It isn't the best for every type of game but it is perfect for Pokemon. I sure love spending 30 minutes walking through the same patch of grass, sitting through the same battle transition and grass cutscene, until the pokemon with a 1% encounter rate decides to show up.
There's no reason to innovate if the new thing is worse than the old.
>No overworld pokemon, random encounters Good, fuck the way it's done in Go. Try and remember going through Mt. Moon as a kid and how hard it could actually be if you didn't catch the right things first. Now imagine it just running past everything you know you don't have a super effective move for. I wouldn't be against them adding swarms or radar or something like that again but fuck EVERYTHING being shown.
Luis Mitchell
Releasing your starter and mystery trading your team is the true way to play the games to be honest.
Jason Gray
>4 rattata team
Alexander Miller
If the battles are fun then I'd have no problem taking a minor detour to engage in one. >It puts an additional pressure on your resources, Pokemon health, PP for moves, and items all require management and risk evaluation before pushing through an area where you could have more or fewer encounters than expected. I think you might be overestimating the amount of pressure basic resource management puts on the player considering you can just run away without much trouble. The only jrpg series that I can think of right now where random encounters put pressure on the player are Etrian Odyssey and SMT and that's because enemies are actual threats in those games.
Kayden Taylor
Overcome the challenge user. It's a lot better after 2/3 weeks you can end up with some interesting stuff people have been breeding and thrown the rest onto mystery trade.
Juan Ortiz
this user raises an additional point choosing to just avoid fights that dont suit you removes a huge factor of the design of pokemon, some type combinations will just outclass you. If you could just walk around them every player will.
There'd be no point having aggro if they don't move faster than you. Just look at something like Persona (I assume this is kind of what you mean), you can just circle round everything. And in that case you may as well make it random.
Jackson Stewart
That fire starter is fucking gross Get that divegrass shit out of my fucking face
Camden Miller
It's almost like any regular old jrpg solved this issue fifteen years ago.
Nathaniel Nelson
>Generic genki starter no. 5783564 >Appeal to impressionable manchild
Stick monkey is better
Anthony Hall
gen 1/2 >hard to pick starter because all of them are awesome gen 3/4/5/6/7/8 >hard to pick starter because they all suck and look like cheap knock-offs
Jackson Flores
Retard.
Samuel Torres
Team Scorbunny for the win Sorry guys, but Grookey's mouth looks like a beak and at first glance I couldn't understand what Sobble was supposed to mean.
I mean, Scorbunny has the type of eyes you see in a LOT of Pokèmon. That was hella recognizable.
Austin Thompson
Have fun with your bait Based Grookeybros will get their epic buff taiko drummer while you get a waifumon
And this time there won't be poorly excuses of pokemons. Fucking sun and moon with their bullshit alolan forms. They just wanted to limit the amount of new pokemons they had to make
This man. In sun and moon i just put my pokemon in the box and used other pokemons.
Isaac Morris
Apart from the bunny, those are some dope ass evo's.
Isaac Baker
The primary reason I'm okay with them removing visible overworld encounters is because the way it was done in Let's Go was lifeless as fuck. With random encounters there's a level of abstraction in play when it comes to encountering a pokemon, but all the pokemon in LGPE just wandering around absolutely braindead like props looked incredibly fake. If they want to have pokemon visible, they need to fit into their environment to some extent, and I don't trust Gamefreak to ever have that kind of competence, so I'd prefer they just stick with random encounters because there isn't really anything wrong with them.
Jaxson Perez
the bottom looks nicer though. Less jaggies.
Jordan Sanchez
This nigga would rather be stuck in the 90s than live in the days of modern RPG design. Go kill your self
Nicholas Brooks
random encounters are good though otherwise you can just run past everything like in DQXI
Adrian Powell
Am I disappointed? Yes. But I'm still thinking about getting it. Normally I'm trying to go for quality over quantity, but let's face it, Pokemon is never gonna get any better.
Leo Bennett
Imagine if you did a mix of both.
Nathan Wilson
ORAS did that.
Evan Wilson
Even if it was competent, it would be so scripted the illusion of them being anything other than props would fall off pretty quick. Thinking of something like Pokemon Snap, it looks cool the first time or two but after that you know what to expect.
Alexander Campbell
Is this game still using the lets go catching mechanism?
If so, not buying it.
Ryder Nelson
Is this the first evolution? Do we know what the second one looks like?
Luke Taylor
No. The first things they did in the trailer were show a trainer randomly encounter a pokemon in tall grass, throw out their own pokemon to battle the wild one, and catch it like in a normal game. I think they know that a large number of people hate the Let's Go system.
Leo Cruz
That's speculative fanart, we won't be seeing evolutions (officially) for a few months.
Justin Brown
Ohmori is directing again so it's going to be piss easy, linear and handholdy as fuck with minimal post game content
I guess difficulty settings and an option to skip tutorials is too much?
Isaiah Garcia
very original
Aiden Scott
It's going to be an Incineroar situation where it's got a fire/fighting design but the secondary typing is something else
John Lewis
Incineroar only became a wrestler on his last Evo, the two prior didn't even foreshadow that part (hence why so many are pissed at it), and he is a cocky heel so being /Dark makes sense. That Ape starter and Torchic got fighter features in their first Evo, and this one has the band-aid/clip on nose thingy going on, which means he is athletic.
Dropped after one gen and then replaced by a different gimmick. Now it sticks out like a sore thumb because they didn't have the gut to commit to it properly.
Justin Jenkins
This. Same with Z Moves. There'll be something new this gen
Landon James
>asking for difficulty in the fisher-price of handheld games
/vp/ really are manchildren and probably pedophiles too
Robert Jones
It looks like fuckin PS2 Dragon quest with slightly better lighting.
>>No overworld pokemon, random encounters I hope there will be a snorlax or two or something, but that seeing them in the grass shit was fucking awful.
John Garcia
First of all >dinossaur Second >otter = “dinossaur” How dumb are you?
Julian Reyes
Maybe it will be /water then because of all the diving
>tfw Let's Go innovated more than Gen 8 Stopped reading right there. Kill yourself LGBTard.
Elijah Barnes
>otter user?
Mason Ramirez
Considering how many people want start with and fuck the rabbit, you're dead wrong on that one.
Henry Rivera
>frog >dinosaur
>lizard >dinosaur
>otter >dinosaur
The real best starters are gen 2 anyway. I love the dinosaur, dinosaur and dinosaur.
Michael Reed
The camera is still fixed and yet they didn't even make sure the billboarded grass textures were at a good angle. That's a rookie move I'd expect from an indie dev.
Camden Green
Gen 2 is a pear, quil and a fucking kaijyu.
Anthony Foster
Here are the typings if anyone is interested
>Fire/Normal >Grass/Rock >Water/Psychic
Connor Davis
Treeko and Mudkip were great, the fire chicken sucked though.
Josiah Jackson
>The Bad >..., random encounters
Jonathan Collins
Fuck you fag, I would breed that bunny for a shiny.
Tyler Carter
Oh, and the gimmick of armored evolutions isn't a thing.
Leo Jackson
the only thing i hate is the fact a starter pokemon has bunny in his name,fucking lazy
Jonathan Gutierrez
@452711275 Source: my ass The [you] council has decided not to give {you} any.
Ethan Morris
You'll find out in July, I guess
Kayden Collins
That comparison is not fair at all you piece of shit and you know it. First of all, DQ8 was for the PS2 whereas this new Pokemon game is on the Switch. You know that the difference in hardware power is fucking huge here.
Jeremiah Myers
>July Source: my ass.
Kevin Watson
>late 2019 >July heh
Adrian Adams
they solved it like 30 years ago by using random encounters. Tales style world map encounters is just a different style, not a superior one. EO still has the best random encounter system though.
Isaac Rivera
It's football based.
Juan Bennett
>inb4 fire fairy to take jabs at soccer being a sissy sport
Austin Morris
>Chameleon >A Dinosaur Literally what
Jeremiah Gray
Ok so why does a Switch game look like a PS2 game "remastered" onto PS3?
Austin Jenkins
>We have seen 2 minutes of the new Gen >IT FUCKING SUCKS THERE IS NO INOVATION WHY WONT POKEMON FOLLOW ME AND WHY CAN'T I SEE ALL THE POKEMON IN THE MAP ? You guys know there's >900 pokemon right?
Logan Wilson
We better not have a fixed fucking camera
Evan Anderson
All it takes is a walking animation which all old mons already have. It's not even a matter of whether it's possible but whether they use the existing assets to implement a highly requested feature.
Logan Ortiz
>otter = dinosaur nigga wut
Jaxon Jenkins
The walking and running cycle animations already exist for ALL Pokémon up to gen 7, user. Every single one. LGPE has the functionality of Pokémon following you built in. All it takes is literally copy/paste the code and make animations for the ~60 new pokemon this gen'll undoubtedly have..
Grayson Turner
I'm half convinced GameFreaks is running bitcoin miners in the background of their games. How else can they look like PS2 games yet cripple whatever hardware they are on?
Jaxson Anderson
Just wait for Super Sword and Super Shield.
Kayden Davis
Sorry little dude, but music monkey is gonna be my pick. But hey, that means my rival will pick you
Tyler Ramirez
At this point I just feel bad for the Pokémon designers. It must be absolute hell trying to come up with new ideas for Pokémon and to keep them coming out every couple years. We’re at what, close to or past a thousand now?
>complaining about fps and textures in unfinished game footage that hasn't been fully optimized yet >Complaining about the map being linear when the game hasn't even been played, judging this solely from concept art
It's too early senpai. Wait for E3 to pass judgement, then you can see if the game still runs like shit during the treehouse presentation.
Christian Hall
Bottom genuinely looks better. It's crisp, top is jagged and scuffed
Adrian Nguyen
That's a really big >implication you got there, user.
Joshua Green
>All three starters are likeable characters, most people seem to know which they're going with No, all of them looks like shit. >UK setting is used well, various landmarks present No, the region looks the most boring shit I have ever seen.
There is literally nothing I like about what was revealed so far.
James Ortiz
Kalos was definitely more boring than this region
Nicholas Rivera
>being this retarded
He was making a joke user saying the ps3 is more powerful than the switch.
Ryder Richardson
>No overworld pokemon, random encounters
Pokemon in overworld isn't objectively better
>Upscaled 3DS graphics, barely above Let's Go
Sure, nigger
>15 fps
Seems to be 30 fps, but knowing gamefreak, I've come to expect 15
I’m definitely getting it. I had this thought that with it being UK based the gym system, will be replaced with a World Cup or Euro League system. Basically you’ll have 8 qualifying matches in different towns while on your journey. The elite 4 will be replaced with the actual tournament and the winner of the tourney faces the champion. Would be a cool idea I think. Seems likely since they did away with gyms in Sun & Moon.
Xavier Parker
Gyms are confirmed, though.
Christopher Torres
These are fuckin great
Joshua Scott
this is the most retarded post I've ever seen in my entire 27 years of living
Kevin Roberts
Mega Evolutions still exist and are fully supported in more recent games. Let's Go even had them despite being back-to-basics in most other mechanical ways. However new Mega-Evolutions have not been added outside of Generation 6.
Some people assume the concept has been dropped and is only being supported out of necessity because they don't want to drop mechanics or forms.
Worth adding, Game Freak seemed to actively go out of their way to give the Megas oddly edgy and dark Pokedex entries in Gen 7 that actively went against the original lore of the mechanic. Mega Evolution was originally supposed to be a supercharge of energy brought on by the bond between trainer and Pokemon, but various Pokedex entries in Gen 7 for the megas essentially make it out to be that the Pokemons bodies or even minds are straight fucked up by a raw surge of energy going through their body.
Gengar goes from prankster to a mindless killer that doesn't understand partnership, Alakazam gets muscle atrophy because all of its power goes to its mind, Aerodactyl is said to be an extreme pain from the rock spikes its body grows, Garchomps literally have their arms melt and they get angry due to the pain, and Kangaskhan causes the child to be able to fight, but since all it does is fight, the "mother becomes uneasy about its future".
The artist somehow managed to do zero (0) interesting things with their design and how their themes evolved, I'm impressed
Mason Price
>Now imagine it just running past everything you know you don't have a super effective move for. Did you think about this even a little bit before you typed it out? They could just do like in Earthbound. You know, that game developed by Ape inc, which is now Creatures inc. You can't just easily avoid everything in that game.
Adrian Rivera
>Pokemon either run straight towards you at speeds you can't hope to avoid >Or they flee from you equally quickly when you want to catch them No fucking thanks
Angel Perry
And? If a player wants to run past everything they should be able to. The only difference having random encounters does is force the player to waste about 15 seconds every 10 steps to run from battles. Either that or buy an item.
It's garbage padding.
Juan Gray
And they can. Routes in Gen 7 almost never had tall grass in their main path and in caves you can just pop these.
Imagine thinking any of the gen 2 starters outside Feraligatr alone are "awesome".
Brayden Russell
You replied to the wrong post retard
Dylan Campbell
Well, there goes my bright idea
Matthew Myers
Yes, I'm sure using systems from the last century is a good idea.
Cooper Bailey
It still bothers me that nidoran and nidorino male and female are considered separate species
Dominic Martinez
Of course it did, the whole point of Go was to innovate and they HAD to promise to make the next "real entry" as safe as possible to placate people freaking over it, the actual test will be if this does better or worse, if it does worse Go gonna be the future.
And you just wasted a fraction of your life making it because I doubt anyone will even post it because of this retarded soul/soulless meme.
Juan Parker
I'm really sad there don't appear to be following Pokemon at this time. I really hope they reveal that later.
Thomas Watson
Zelda Cycle is real
Liam Bell
There's a couple of things from Let's Go that I wish got ported over. Like following and ridable Pokemon, and having them appear in the overworld instead of randomly.
Even then, this is roughly what I expected.
Brandon Wood
>British "sports"
Oh fuck no I'd rather watch American women sports than that shit.
Jacob Evans
a pokemon getting older is a separate species too
Brody Bell
for some reason pokemon Birmingham and London are filled with electrodes.
Evan Campbell
Jack the Ripper Pokémon?
Austin Rodriguez
>Pokemon Let's Go had the worst gameplay in the franchise and introduced gameplay problems that not even fucking Gen 1 and 2 had >literally no new areas and almost no new content >one of the worst "rivals" in the franchise on par with the shitters of the 3DS games >gets all sorts of free passes on being the biggest piece of shit ever
Aaron Carter
>Of course it did, the whole point of Go was to innovate But the only "innovation" Go had was the overworld Pokemon. Everything else was shitty mobile mechanics like candies and waggle catching.