So now that the sequel (or remake) is practically all but confirmed, how the fuck would it work...

how were they treated? whats the lore

It IS practically all but confirmed

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They talked too much about how you could be a Nazi vampire, basically. They also implied the Chechnya killings were all a cover for vampire activities, had a character who ran a refugee home for Syrian children, purposefully traumatized them by funding far right movements and indirectly organizing attacks against refugees, all cause she was a ventrue who could only feed from traumatized children and, even though her bio included the line "you love the young - to be near them, fuck them, and drain their blood " - the writers reacted with anger when fans called the character a pedophile. They ALSO had onyx path rewrite sections of their werewolf and mage books to explicitly exclude homosexual or trans characters, saying that their inclusion is counter to the lore they wanted to write, and, like I said, defended Zak S, who has since been MeToo'd to hell and back.

Basically, white wolf under paradox wasn't just a story of "ughhhhhhhhhh she devs are so cucked and bluepilled -.- "

>How can the vampires maintain the masquerade in modern times?
Do they need to do anything differently?
I admit I don't recall the specifics of how it's run behind the scenes, but I don't think it's very different than that era.
Just get a few people to become famous, get into high positions then let the regular vamps act like whores and joe blow down the street with the same threat of death.

This. Look at the other games in the World of Darkness-universe coming out of Sweden (or hell, any other games coming out of Sweden). Except 100% politicized gaming.

Based post, user, nice to see a fellow /news/man

*expect

Also add to this that modern WoD has gome fully political as well, and leftie SJW at that. Everything after nWoD 1.0 is pure shit.

I'm just a Swede and I know what Sweden is. The tendrils of leftie identity politics have infected literally everything. I no longer consume any kind of Swedish media, it's just not possible without getting incredibly frustrated.

>Everything after nWoD 1.0 is pure shit.
Couldn't agree more. The only way of salvaging this project would be to give it to a developer like CDPR or Warhorse Studios and tell them to use the OWoD source material.

Don't get too excited, lads. It's going to be twilight-tier faggotry.

How do you stay redpilled in cuck Mecca?

nigga, it's just as likely a Netflix show as anything

they'd be just as likely to announce that at GDC as anywhere, like how they announce superhero movies at comic book conventions rather than film related events

This guy gets it.

I became redpilled from what I see and hear here in Sweden every day. I don't understand why more people here aren't waking up from the state propaganda slumber.

Do people actually speak ar*bic there, brother? I've been learning to read runes myself, probably a lost art in cuckistan/Sweden, right?

Overabundance of empathy, user. White people evolved over thousands of years to work together. Empathy was a beneficial trait for future planning in harsh climates. We like to think that others will be kind to us in a reciprocal fashion - which is our undoing. We care too much, and peoples from other cultures exploit our kindness. Unfortunately it's time our countries started thinking with their heads rather than their hearts, and there'll come a time soon where we'll be forced to choose between our own and the others.

I wish you all the best, Swedebro.

Harsh climates breed empathy I agree, it's why the middle East is the way it is today

Well the arabs do, obviously, and there are very many of them here

I agree, I don't think things can progress like this without some kind of either violent separation or breakdown. Many people are quietly angry over the situation, and it's not de-escalating. I expect either a fractured Sweden in 20 years with clearly (possibly even openly) defined white and immigrant zones that don't allow outsiders, or full on collapse and civil strife.

A lot of Swedes are leaving Sweden at the moment, and the only ones who are a net gain in tax are white males, when too many of them expatriate or just drop out of society, who will pay the massive welfare check for the immigrants? When the money stop coming, how will the massive amounts of unemployed (due to not having any marketable skills) survive? It will be a massive crimewave followed by collapse.

The game was designed before the social media page. The Masquerade is much harder to maintain when even people in third world countries can pull out a smartphone and upload HD video to facebook instantaneously.

>Fertile Crescent
>harsh climate
Ok

>Germany, France, Europe, Spain, UK, Ireland, Italy, Czechia, Poland, Slovakia, Hungary, etc etc
>Harsh climate
Ok

That’s why the Nos have a whole fleet of cunts cleaning the web on the daily.

>Well the arabs do, obviously, and there are very many of them here

Hate to see what has happened to my ancestral homeland. Did you have to go to a mosque for school? And what about runes?

Check out regional temperatures from the last ice age you ignorant Arab.

No Swede reads arabic, no Swedes go to mosques. We might be cucked, but we aren't britbong-tier.

I'm not Arab, I'm originally from Kyrgyzstan and now live in Romania.

If euros are so genetically kind, what happened in the 30 years war? Or to the natives in America?

Cold climates are way more harsh than non-desert warm ones, this is not debatable. We are talking about survival here, growing food without modern equipment.

Oh ok. Are any trying to reclaim their heritage and learn to build ships and this sort of thing?

That's not even the worst. Not even close.

Is that real? It's such a caricature it's hard to believe someone genuinely wrote that as anything but a mockery.

That's equivalent to arab in western europe, everyone here would see you as just another arab or afghan and not know the difference (is there any? You're muslim, right?).

We are talking about modern times, obviously. The european is fully domesticated.

Some (few) are larping as pagans but honestly what's the point? You aren't more of a Swede because you larp, and I'd rather look forward.

No, I'm atheist

If we're talking about modern Europe, then why did you talk about genetic kindness? Genes take longer to develop than modern times.

>using the last ~300 years of history as the precedent of sub-species demeanour and social behaviours
You need to educate yourself.

Yes. Winter in Europe is EXTREMELY harsh. Before electricity it was almost unbelievably harsh and your weak ass wouldn't have survived a single winter there.

I thought it would be good to scare the Arabs, show them the thing they dear the most cause we conquered them historically you know?

Okay, then I apologize for being slightly pissy at you. I'm not the one that talked about genetic kindness. My view is that the western european has been pussyfied by luxury and being coddled by the government.

Socialism was a fucking mistake.

The American Indians killed twice as many whites as whites killed of them. They literally would have won the wars if not for smallpox.

So then wouldn't this happen with immigrants? Arabs come, and then they have the same government and luxury as you.

Yes, naturally.

All this means is that the white people were shit at fighting, not that they are genetically kind. India was ruled by UK, this doesn't make India genetically kind

Yes, but of course it would take many, many decades. Also, most of our immigrants are from low IQ and violent peoples, and that shit is purely genetic. Low IQ makes you much more likely to not grasp the consequences of violent actions and you are more likely to become a criminal, and I'm near certain that blacks and arabs have some genetic flaw that lowers their impulse control to a higher degree than white people. The act like savage monkeys, the second generation still act like savage monkeys but now in western clothes, etc.

>how the fuck would it work?
don't worry its paradox, they'll figure it somewhere around the 50th dlc

Are you sure it's not a trailer for the Werewolf game that's in development?

This guy gets it.

Ah ok, so then white people have no genetic compulsion but black people and Arabs do?

well, first vtmb shat a bit on mid 00s neocon.
but it was rather in playful manner, bearable and very mild.
but this
this wont
this will be insufferable
this will be full propaganda

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>the white people were shit at fighting
>guns and cannons vs stone age technology would favor the stone age technology

You are literally retarded. Indians killed more because they were relentless and wouldn't stop killing. Whites killed less because they were less aggressive. THEY COULD HAVE WIPED OUT THE INDIANS EASILY IF THEY WANTED TO, BUT CHOSE NOT TO BECAUSE THEY NEVER HAD ANY INTENTION OF DOING SO IN THE FIRST PLACE.

That's not a real thing.

thats not what he said

It could work if it was developed by slavs.
Games like Underrail, Atom RPG and kingdom come show that they can make some good wrpgs not infected by trannies, homos and muh feminism.

WoD was always bluepilled, user.

They just wanted to take the land, right? I don't know, I think this is more aggressive than fighting people who are invading you. You want to do this to Arabs and other immigrants, even though you are genetically kind and white, so it cannot be a very aggressive action to want to attack invaders

Less. There’s plenty of criminal psych articles and studies which directly correlate IQ to criminality, lack of planning and a lack of risk/benefit analysis. You can’t unfuck low IQ retards; you can only mitigate the harm they cause to a functioning society.

Basically yes. Whites have a higher average IQ, and a low IQ makes for lower foresight and higher impulsivity.

I know, I am asking if this is his belief, because he says that he doesn't think white people are genetically kind because of the cold, but he thinks Arabs and blacks are genetically evil, so I wanted to know what he thinks white people genes are like

Bloodlines had a Bush joke, but it also had a democrat joke. People forget that. And both of them were offhand nonpartisan wisecracks. It wasn't "trying to make a political statement" the way that modern games do.

he didnt say that

There's varying degrees of that. I don't care if something is bluepilled or not, I just don't want it to be straight up SJW, which modern WoD is.

And is this because it was cold and white people evolved to be better? What about the people in eastern Russia, the native people there. Are they also good because of the cold?

Yes he did, reread the posts

>eastern Russia
Mongolians aren’t white, user.

Troika is what made the game so amazing. Literally all of their games are up there in the pantheon of RPGs.

Now you are starting to sound like an emotional idiot. I'm the guy you are talking about, and my viewpoint is this: Whites have an average IQ of about 100. Arabs have an average IQ of about 85 or so last time I checked. Africans have an even lower average IQ. Most criminals have a low IQ because low IQ makes you lack foresight and makes you less likely to control impulsive behavior.

Who knows WHY whites have a higher average IQ than arabs and africans, but they do. I don't know why you are fixating on the climate.

Because that is the explanation that the other guy in the thread gave, that Europe was cold so white people are better because the cold makes you good and the hot makes you dumb and evil.

So you think there is no hope for any of the rest of us? In Kyrgyzstan, should we all commit mass suicide so the white people can take it and make it better?

They developed games in a time when game devs actually give a fuck about the game they were making. They put everything into their games. I don’t want to use this term because of the shit memery it’s now used for, but their games had soul.

Well, they evolved in the cold, so shouldn't they be genetically kind and good like white people are?

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>how?
manbuns, pointlessly defending trannies, and being offended on behalf of other races. they'll blend right in.

>So you think there is no hope for any of the rest of us? In Kyrgyzstan, should we all commit mass suicide so the white people can take it and make it better?

No, you should do whatever the fuck you want, just don't immigrate to white countries en-masse and fuck everything up

>Who knows WHY whites have a higher average IQ than arabs and africans

Whites don't have higher IQ than arabs. Arabs are genetically more "white" than some groups of "white" people like greeks.

Africans have lower IQ than most other people on earth because selection pressures in their societies have favored things like fast running and jumping high. In european societies, starting thousands of years ago selection pressures shifted to holding a job, providing, having an income, being able to work in a civil society.

Effectively, there are places in Africa today where the thing that attracts a woman, is the same thing that attracted a woman 2 million years ago...Fast running or height. Their societies effectively have not become modern human societies.

is a second playthrough of vtmb worth it?

Ok, but then shouldn't all of us work together against the white people? If you are all so cold and smart, shouldn't everyone else try to stop you from taking us over? I thought you were genetically kind, but you are saying a violent thing here

Troika made great RP experiences but their games were a fucking mess.
Gameplay was often broken and the games were riddled with bugs.

>and the hot makes you dumb and evil
That’s not what anyone said. No one said anything about mild climates, only that cold weather forced those living in them to work together and that there was likely a positive correlation between selecting those who contributed and worked together as opposed to those who didn’t. There also plenty of papers on the effects of climate on social structures of ancient people. This isn’t new information and you’re extrapolating what people haven’t said in an attempt to disprove that places in Northern Europe have an odd propensity for overwhelming empathy, often to their own detriment because other cultures take advantage of them.

>Whites don't have higher IQ than arabs

Yes they do, just try to find any kind of proof to the contrary (there won't be any, while there's lots of proof showing I'm right).

Anecdotal evidence shows it as well, they do just slightly better than negroes in most western countries, academically.

brainstats.com/average-iq-by-country.html

quora.com/Is-it-true-that-the-average-IQ-across-the-Middle-East-is-80-90-depending-on-the-country

I said a long time ago that the middle East has a harsh climate, so if the harsh climate makes you genetically kind then the Arabs should be kind. Also, If northern Europe is genetically the kindest of the white people, why did they attack England as Vikings for such a long time? Seems like a very hot thing to do, not cold and nice

>we can't fuck your society up, therefore we must murder you

Jesus, is that the logic that arabs/africans operate on? And you are trying to claim that you guys AREN'T genetically evil?

>shouldn't all of us work together against the white people
The 2014-2019 immigration crisis sure is a good example of exactly that.

>is that the logic that arabs/africans operate on?
Unfortunately he’s disproving his argument, isn’t he.

that doesnt confirm shit

for all your know theyre going to do some lame remaster release

>mfw they could make the same joke with "Trump administration" and /vpol/ would seethe and make threads about it for at least 4 straight weeks

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The only thing anyone ever asked of "you people" is that you stay the fuck out of western civilization. But of course you "had" to "try to spread islam".

ranking this today takes in to play socioeconomic/religious/cultural factors

Arabs are genetically white. I hate to tell you this but Arabs are whiter than Italians and shit bruh. That's why you will see Jordanian girls and your mind will say "I want to eat her ass"

This is an arab woman.

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You are being very selective in what information you respond to and what information you read an learn. Basically you are proving that arabs and that type of people refuse to learn, discuss logically and co-operate. All your questions have been answered in a calm, logical way already and still you are flustered and trying to start shit.

The Beast instinctively protects the vampires by having their heads appear turned away/smudged on photos with them.
There is also a lot of new lore concerning the social media and how various supernatural factions use it to their advantage.
Source: nWoD p&p rpg

The Fertile Crescent isn’t a harsh climate, you crazy fuck.

You're very obviously a malicious person desperately trying to find reason to hate whites purely because we've accomplished more than you, you envious pathetic little subhuman.

Today's modern culture is one of outrage, seeing something you don't like and screeching about it online.

Nice VTMB thread dudesters.

I mean to say, isn't this the normal response? If white people are naturally better, then all the rest of us should be careful around white people. It makes more sense to me to say that people are shaped by their family and the money the have more than they are shaped by how hot or cold their grandfather was, but if having cold ancestors makes you superior then everyone else should be careful that the cold guys don't come and get us like in Africa or something, you know?

See:

>ranking this today takes in to play socioeconomic/religious/cultural factors

There it is, the blanket leftie excuse for everything that's wrong with arabs/africans. That excuse doesn't cut it. No matter where arabs and africans are, in their home countries, in western countries, adopted into western families, the result is the same. The IQ-tests are correct, deal with it.

>Arabs are genetically white

That's a preposterous statement, and one cherry picked heavily retouched photo won't change anything. They are caucasians yes, but they aren't white. White basically means of western european heritage.

Kyrgyzstan spread Islam to Europe?

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>how the fuck would it work?
>Ideally
Direct sequel Based and Bloodpilled
Cammies run the MSM and all major social media, don't give two fucks about kine politics but think divisive party lines, IDpol, et al. are hilarious ways to distract and discredit, nosferatu trolls, ventrue board members and toreador 'influencers' make it really, really fucking hard to break the masquerade and even harder to get away without a good ol' stake'n bake
>most likely
fuck you, that's why - enjoy your janky plothole garbage

>If white people are naturally better, then all the rest of us should be careful around white people

No you violent fuckhead, you should LEARN from your betters to try to be better yourself. Jesus fuck. Do you hate on successful people in your own life as well or try to learn from them?

The middle East is bigger than two rivers, though. Do you think the Arabian peninsula is part of the fertile crescent?

What do you mean? He says the cold makes people nice, and the northern Europeans are the nicest and coldest of everyone, but they were Vikings. I don't understand it, maybe it's my english

Since when did Brits get taught arabic or go to mosques? The only time I ever went to a mosque was when my school took us to a synagogue and a mosque on an RE trip (which you only did if you studied RE). It was also hilarious and soured a ton of people on Islam as the imam was ranting about how the USA faked 9/11 and Osama Bin Laden was hiding in the white house, and the girls all got pushed into a tiny room.

You can't learn genetics, though.

>the middle East has a harsh climate

Not especially.

>If white people are naturally better, then all the rest of us should be careful around white people.
No, because despite whites having higher IQs and being historically successful, where ever we went we attempted to improve living standards rather than rape and kill everyone like the Khans and Arabs.

Oh ok, the desert is nice then?

London is

thank you for this post, I welcome VTMB threads but starting threads like this is scummy.

>this is the game that has "good" dialogue according to Yea Forums
OH NO NO NO NO NO

You’re talking about the Middle East, not sub-Saharan Africa - and even then, Sub-Saharan Africa isn’t all desert. There’s a fuckton of fertile plains and game animals to hunt which is why those cultures never got past being nomadic hunters. They never needed to be anything else.

It's a pompous toreador user

>only a few lines on WoD lore and doesn't even bother to mention his generation
>remaining 90% is a SJW blog post self-insert

please don't be real.

Don't worry, climate change and 12 degree C warming EOC will make our winters mild again, although most of the countries you mentioned will be about 40 meters under water.

People are using the lack of information about a new game as an excuse to have off-topic /pol/ posts.

London is 40% white British, and about 20% other whites but that's got little to do with everyone here apparently learning Arabic and going to mosques. British children don't go to Islamic schools, only Muslims do (and don't go pretending a Pakistani or a Bangladeshi is British just because they hold a passport). As a percentage of the overall population there are far more non-whites and Muslims in Sweden than there are in Britain.

The situation is pretty shit in both places but don't go making shit up or pretending 'oh at least we're not as bad as XYZ' because there's plenty of people here who say the exact thing about Sweden "oh it's bad but at least we're not Sweden tier'.

This is a terrible idea.

Don’t be sad. There’s always ResetEra which will accept you with open arms.

Paradox does not own Bloodlines. Activision still owns that.

Yeah they never needed to stop being nomadic hunters, totally dude. They definitely never even wanted to make their lives easier by advancing their tools and property, or to cultivate livestock on large scales.
Nahhh why would they ever even consider making their lives better, who needs to? :)

The cartoon versions of Vikings weren't real. Real Vikings were just regular people.

Who’s the mayor of London? Is he British?

I'm a shit writer, but for fucks sake boys keep the thread on the rails.

Maybe it's because white Europeans designed the test they were better at.

>global warming is real
>even though average global surface temperature is going down

IQ tests are largely based off abstract reasoning rather than language skills. They test basic cognitive function and problem solving rather than specific schools of education.

Rudi Can't Fail

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Compared to the arctic? VERY.

niggle me this batman, why don't african americans make their own IQ test then?

Speak for yourself, I want a qt Kyrgyz gf to spread Silk Road civilization on my dick.

>blah blah left

except arab iq isnt statistically different from white in the US so you just clearly have no idea what youre talking about

>That's a preposterous statement
its an inarguable genetic scientific reality. there is literally no argument you can make against it. lol.

>That's why you will see Jordanian girls and your mind will say "I want to eat her ass"
How to see Jordanian girls?

This isn't real is it? I-Is it?

IQ (mostly) measures spatial math and information retention. Universal stuff. That's the whole point. There's nothing "cultural" on it.

>disregarding the geographical conditions and reducing everything to lmao dumb niggers argument
There weren't even any animals to tame in the Americas save for Alpacas and Turkeys, which aren't suitable for using for farming. Through farming larger communities appeared and larger communities contributed to specialisation of different crafts and it moved on from there. Africa being cut by the equator disconnected it from the rest of Eurasia where those things couldn't get to it. There are many reasons why Americas, Australia & some parts of sub-Saharan-Africa were living in Stone-Age few centuries ago, dumb nigger ain't one of them.

And how many non-Swedes are in public office over there?

It's real.

Then how come East Asians do better at them?

>is going down
Uh-huh.

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It's not even CLOSE to the worst stuff. There's one that "warns" players about "alt-righters" (they use that exact term) that is literally THE most extreme sjw faggotry I have ever seen in ANY context, gaming related or otherwise.

>literally no source whatsoever

and yet actual data says otherwise

>no source
>NASA
data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/graphs/

I've replayed like 5 or 6 times and always enjoyed it. There's always something different to try, at least within the different clans. Though Nosferatu was definitely my most unique playthrough.

That is a whole lot of false / downright stupid claims you just made, alpacas and turkeys not suitable for farming? Everyone else figured out how to improve themselves because everyone else taught them how to? Africa being cut by the equator disconnected it from the rest of the fucking planet? Do you even know what the equator is? My god you are on some next level stupid.

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Do you think there is no desert in the middle East? Look in eastern Syria and Jordan, in Saudi Arabia, Sinai, southern Libya, and you will see why I say the middle East has harsh climate. Ok, it isn't cold like europe, but east Russia is cold and no one wants to say the natives there are good and nice because of it. It doesn't make sense to me.

>NASA
>"source"

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Source: NASA/NOAA.

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>graph
>"source"

thisstoppedbeingfunnyalongtimeago.jpg

Yes.

This

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>NASA

now it's just trolling

That's a map, not a graph.

That's a great argument, now show me your source with data to the opposite effect with more credibility and proven track record than NASA.

Try using a plow on either of those two. In Americas they even invented the wheel but it remained as a toy, not as a tool for farming and transportation for the lack of animals.

Source or didn't happen.

Why don't we freeze over

Then we designed them wrong because we aren't the best at them.

You can plow and support large civilizations without strong animals, just look at the Mayans and Aztecs.

Also, high IQ peoples makes do with what they have. Asians didn't have European style animals (naturally) so they made do with water buffalos for plowing, planting rice and riding ponies (until they could trade for better horses to breed) and they built vast and powerful civilizations throughout history.

Are you trying to tell me that there isn't a single animal in the entirety of subsaharan africa that could fill the oxen/water buffalo role? Not a single four legged horse-like animal that could be domesticated through decades and centuries of selective breeding? If so, you are full of shit. If whites had populated subsaharan africa they would have had domesticated plowing wildebeests and zebra cavalry.

>I'M NOT FROM JABAKISTAN, I'M FROM KYZIJIBISTAN! THERE'S A DIFFERENCE!!!!!!!! LEARN TO TELL US APART!!!!!

lol get fucked you smelly disgusting paki and stay as far away from the first world as possible

Case in point. Whites show up in Africa, rides zebras after a decade or so.

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>the white man cometh

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>a gay muslim vampire will lead a crusade against Europe

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Still waiting on that credible source..

You can but not on the scale of Egyptians, it's is just not efficient.
Domesticating animals aren't as simple as that user, especially when using for certain tasks. There are lots of conditionals, and zebras are short of one which is being docile like horses. You can tame few zebras but by their nature they're not suitable for domesticating.

Anybody played new clan quest mod? Is it only late game content? Worth try?

>Domesticating animals aren't as simple as that user

It is when you put your mind to it and do it, like europeans and asians. THe point of domesticating and breeding an animal is to CHANGE their nature over decades and centuries, it's genetics. You breed the most docile ones and don't let the most aggressive ones breed. Over time you will have a docile breed of animal X. This has even been shown in modern times to work pretty quickly, look up the Russian fox breeding experiments.

/thread

Reminder that Bloodlines is a leftist made game.