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"Why do SJWs make everything so political?"
Nicholas Walker
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Andrew Myers
Who cares lmao
Lincoln Clark
>Halo 3 is a post 9/11 allegory
Aiden Edwards
Well? Why do they?
Charles Adams
>t.OP
Brandon Baker
trash normie games
Connor Rivera
>all those games were pre-2010
fuck.. thanks for reminding how little political shit fucked with games back then.
Jaxson Evans
Dude, I play games about little boys in green tunics and action heroes shooting zombies. Who gives a fuck?
Isaac Hughes
>twitter filename
Kevin Murphy
>normie
Blake Ross
Letting common people use the internet was a mistake.
Cursed be Steve Jobs for popularizing smartphones.
Alexander Robinson
holy shit the amount of reach in those descriptions.
its almost like whoever created that edit was obsessed.
i guess it's true. the left can't meme.
Asher Watson
>post 9/11 fundamentalism
lol wtf is that retard speak?
Jackson Wright
what the fuck is 9/11 fundamentalism
Parker Bailey
>9/11
you say it cuz the covies wage a holy war against humanity? what the fuck
Benjamin Perry
to be fair the same happens when you put gays, woman or black people in games, sometimes these characters or the story theyre in makes 0 political points but people say it's some agenda bullshit. I have seen this be done so many times already.
Joshua Reed
Kevin Gomez
>Halo 3 is literally a hamfisted post-9/11 fundamentalism allegory.
What?
Alexander Perez
The difference is that those stories are entertaining
Battlefield's story isn't
Parker Brown
Just a reminder to zoomers that comics also were political since forever and not only just now.
Thomas Cook
>modern warfare 2 incited the iraq war.
what?
lol what?
Andrew Cook
I always thought it was weird how politics in games aren't about issues within and between governments (like it is in real life); instead they're about sexism and racism and shit. Are we sure we're all using the right word?
Liam Butler
>Halo is about 9/11
You restera dummies couldn’t say it was a take on religious extremism, because, ya know, that’s what the covenant empire is about
Evan Flores
>AC creed exposes all religion is a lie because you kill some religious leaders
What drugs were you on when you wrote this shit?
Jason Nelson
it's all related to politics still. They just take more interest about topics related to human rights. I personally couldn't care less as long it isn't something so bad that is offensively bad like that shit that happened with saint seiya on netflix.
Hunter Anderson
KYS you fucking tranny cuck
Jayden Anderson
To be fair, a lot of media that came out after 9/11 was influenced by the attacks. For example, there's a theory that the reason why superhero movies started exponentially increasing after 9/11 is because people wanted to watch movies about heroes who make it a mission to do good during the troubled times.
A good example of a right-wing take on this is The Dark Knight, which is basically an allegory for the year 2001.
Christopher Edwards
>the left can’t me-
Christopher Moore
The Covenant are literally a caliphate waging a holy war
Owen Bennett
I can understand media being reflective of the era it's in, but there really are some cases where it really feels like a stretch to make a connection like the OP's image.
Jordan Murphy
>They just take more interest about topics related to human rights.
there is nothing wrong with the topic. but if your medium is so boring as to not recognize the complexities to the topic, then it fucking sucks.
Jack Clark
there is no reaching there unless your IQ is literally the same number as your chromosomes
Logan Green
Jihadists, Crusaders, probably inspiration for the covenant. Besides, the series only came out two months after the attacks
Charles Cook
Gamers are selectively sensitive to shit and have a narrow worldview. A lot of them like the idea of being the edgy cool kids fighting PC culture and will find these shitty hills to die on.
Ayden Turner
>there is no reaching there
lol AC is overthrowing religion.
okay obsessed kiddo.
Colton Kelly
>how all religion is a lie
>yet you face off against the gods of Egypt, Greece, meet the Native American Mother Eart Spirit to talk to you about the Apple of Eden, the same Apple Adam and Eve ate
Andrew King
Most gamers are low-iq burger-flippers, what the fuck do you expect from them? The extent at which they can observe things depends on what people say on Twitter.
Brody White
the problem is identity politics, not just politics
Michael Thompson
Identity politics vs Politics.
Ryder Scott
Damn...I guess SJWs are right for once
Easton Ramirez
Sociopolitics is the term and issue nowadays with tranny and gender bullshit. Much lighter blanket term than politics.
Ethan Parker
>actual politics
vs
>meme politics
Battlefield is a war game, not a feminist game. All above Battlefield talk about politics in the sense of war. Battlefield meanwhile, hamfists a feminist message in the middle when it doesn't fit the narrative or scenario.
Jacob Miller
>identity politics
Marketing isn't identity politics, it's... marketing.
Juan Hernandez
Here's a better point: No one gives a shit about Battlefield's story, and yet when they make it about woman people suddenly act like it's all they've ever played Battlefield for.
John Collins
>Top three games are at least somewhat nuanced with their political messages
>Battlefield is just a girl
See the problem?
Kevin King
Trying to make points about the world around you and use a fictional story to question it vs "hey guys every game needs to represent every group even if it's completely inappropriate for the time and place".
One is called storytelling, one is called transparent agenda pushing.
Nolan Wright
>Yooo maaaaan... I can see, like, real deep n shit. Modern Warfare 2 is, like, all deep n shit when they shot up a bunch of folks in an airport.
Kayden Perez
You're dumb for thinking that just having a female in a game makes it feminist. By that logic, Pokemon games are feminist for giving you female character options.
Blake James
The problem isn't the fact people don't like conspiracies, politics, or political-esque themes in their games.
The problem is when a game bends certain things or designs certain elements JUST to appeal to certain political ideologies or beliefs that's run rampant in the modern political "me vs. them" extreme-left-or-extreme-right landscape.
Having a story where a government influences other nations by changing how events are recorded and saying they're the good guys when actually their dicks? Yes it's political, but nothing in that scenario is being thrown in to appeal to one modern political group or the other.
Designing a character to be a trans gay when it adds nothing to their characterization, or making a game star a nazi character who kills people for being "degenerate" for no reason other than to add edge to the game? That is when shit is stupid and you are "adding" modern day political shit just to appeal to one crowd or the other.
Tyler Ramirez
There's a difference between a games story involving politics and a game's existence being politically motivated. Its like comparing WW2 Propaganda cartoons to Ralph Bakshi's Wizards.
Blake Evans
For the cod one, promoting jingoism within a population through propaganda and misinformation isn't politics, that's not even close to modern political discourse that's just pure totalitarianism and has existed for as long as civilizations have fought wars
Xavier Ramirez
>Modern Warfare
>nuanced political messages
Jayden White
>"hey guys every game needs to represent every group even if it's completely inappropriate for the time and place".
Funny we didn't have this conversation with Snake Eater.
Jason Reyes
Only one of those 4 games is based and focused on actual battles and characters in a real war, not just influenced somehow in order to create fiction.
Anthony Parker
>the inner workings and decision-making of a government aren't politics
what the fuck am I reading
Robert Kelly
>extreme-left-or-extreme-right landscape.
What's extreme about a female character in a video game?
Kevin Garcia
People still don't care about the story.
People shit on it because people don't like when things they don't care for keep being shoved into their faces, as a company tries a shallow attempt at pandering to a demographic.
This is what's wrong with pandering, it alienates part of your fanbase.
Isaiah White
Actual interesting political stories that were in the game narrative vs this
Grayson Evans
>Having a female character in a fictional world to make a game
VS
>having a female in an annual corporate shilling just to pay yourself on the back
Carson Butler
Except Halo wasn't made in the 2 months after 9/11 you retard. It has nothing to do with 9/11 and all of it's religious names are christian based and have nothing to do with Islam.
Blake Davis
>comparing real political commentary to identity politics
This is why everyone laughs at SJWs. It's their politics specifically that are a joke.
Caleb Ramirez
>totalitarianism isn't political
Holy shit.
Carter Robinson
>Male power fantasy
Resonates with primarily male audience
>Female power fantasy
Does not resonate with primarily male audience
Any questions?
Eli Hall
>come shoot people
>come jump off shit and stab people
>come shoot aliens
>omg look at how progressive we are fuck drumpf btw
James Collins
young bill
cripple zoey
beard francis
louis
Parker Evans
Ugh, this is so problematic. Disrespecting those who fought so much that I literally can't even.
Nathaniel Cook
Historical revisionism about one of the most well documented events in human history is pretty extreme
Blake Bell
>shoot people is okay
>shoot people with woman standing next to me is NOT okay
Christopher Roberts
You're dumb if you think that wasn't a blatant attempt at making modern feminism feel happy about their miserable lives.
Josiah Flores
The game is just as much a male power fantasy though. What's the problem?
Asher Martin
no there isn't
why does video games having a point or taking a stance on a topic scare you so much?
Noah Hall
I knew the second I saw that thumbnail it'd be a shitstorm of a reaction.
Cooper Hughes
Depends on context and who you ask.
If you have a female character who is nothing but tits and ass for sex appeal, it's extreme to the left for demoralizing women and reducing their existence to fapbait in the game.
If you have a female in a game that is based off real historic events and the main character is introduced as a female (who was never near the events depicted) with robot prosthetics then it's extreme to those who can see agenda pushing and non-accuracy.
Jonathan Ramirez
kek
Hudson Brooks
But nobody cared when Call of Duty did it
almost like there's only outrage when people make youtube videos inciting it
Colton Jackson
Snake Eater walks the line between goofy and serious, but still in incredibly campy ways. I dont think anyone will take Snake Eater completely seriously when there's a boss with a tommy gun that shoots bees. I think what got people with Battlefield 5 was just how poorly it was timed, it basically marketed itself as "WW2 but not really", and after the mixed reception to CoD WW2 it wasn't exactly what everyone wanted.
Owen Stewart
Adrian Brooks
Which is weird because because COD and Halo have female soldiers, too. It’s almost as if they aren’t there just for quotabucks
Andrew Davis
OP, please explain to me how claiming SJW making things political is equivalent to claiming that things not by SJW are not political.
Joshua Flores
You aren't worth talking to
Lucas Thompson
>But nobody cared when Call of Duty did it
wtf are you talking about? are you delusional?
Blake Cruz
Girls are icky and gross and can't fight in wars because they're too busy bleeding out of their vaginas
Also WW2 should be handled with reverence or something I dunno.
Mason Peterson
Can you even understand what he said? Are you stupid?
He's saying there's a different between political propaganda and something with themes of political commentary, which there clearly is.
Both have "points" and "stances". Only one has a much more respectable intent in mind, is less obnoxious, and actually tries to weave its politics into the narrative instead of trying to force it in to pander to a small demographic.
Jace Clark
Robert Perez
Identity politics is the lowest and most toxic form of politics. People said to keep politics out of video games when conservatives called games too violent, but conservatives back then weren't fucking batshit insane and marched on the street throwing literal, damaging riots where property is burned and people have died. That's why it's such a big deal this time, because when we tell them to "fuck off" with their politics, they literally attack us and sabotage our lives rather than fuck off like the conservatives did.
Leo Gomez
When they added ray guns to WW2, you didn’t complain
Tyler Powell
>Primitive jingoistic barbarism that has existed for a millennia is comparable to modern political issues
You people are retarded
Austin Wood
It's more understandable considering the settings. It's humanity vs space bugs or just humanity in the future. I think it's just a matter of "having interesting females or females that can deliver actual bantz" for Halo and Gears and having boring characters that are just there and don't do anything, or plopping in female characters into WW2 but not actually taking advantage of untold stories of the era outside of female french resistance fighters.
Benjamin Cook
It's more nuanced than
GIRL GOOD
SEXISM BAD
John Perez
Halo is based on Christianity, Master Chief is based on John 1:17 of the Bible.
Juan Roberts
What's extreme is how you're just now calling this historical revisionism. It's weird that this is where you draw the line in a video game.
Colton Bennett
I would’ve loved a campaign mode about that soviet woman sniper
Charles Moore
you are saying that a ray gun, which is in a zombies horde mode game, is generating a political message?
Nicholas Richardson
>Based on John 1:17
How's that exactly?
Nicholas Anderson
An easter egg that maybe .5% of players even knew existed doesn't count, user. That's a bad faith argument.
Parker Mitchell
Samuel Bennett
me too. fun as fuck.
Samuel Thomas
Many conservatives also used to think, and many still do think, that violent video games are corrupting children.
Oliver Hernandez
xer's argument is that it's historically inaccurate so there should have been just as much outrage as there is over female cyborg soldiers in the story mode of a ww2 game
Zachary Miller
Admittedly, after just looking it up, you can get the ray gun in the main campaign. You gotta do some bullshit first for it appear, but that person isn't wrong when you can get it in the story mode.
Josiah Thomas
The difference between WW2 and any other conflict is that there's such a huge cultural circlejerk about WW2 being the end-all-be-all historical event, and if you portray it any way other than how Hollywood did then you'll inevitably get backlash from wehraboos, gopniks, and people who thought that Saving Private Ryan was the best war movie ever made
This is why nobody cared when BF1 did "revisionism," because nobody had expectations to cling to. People sperg because BF5 launched with no D-Day and yes playable women, but when BF1 launched without Gallipoli and with black Germans, there was virtually no criticism addressing this.
Nolan Adams
Go fight in a war then, brave ma'am.
Jason Miller
Did anyone ever make a level or game about her? With 309 kills she's a big deal, that's prime sniper mission material right there.
Xavier King
i swear to god. trannies must be aliens from space trying to assimilate, if they can't understand this.
Landon Hughes
Halo was first announced in 1997
Carter Lopez
And they're right, just look at all the incels and the tranny degenerates on resetera
Nicholas Hill
Poor strawman
Matthew Diaz
soooo as an Easter egg, that means it's political and we should have been outraged?
Brayden Myers
A lot of the criticism leveled at BF5 is "wow this disrespects veterans, my grandpa didn't die in France for this"
Mason Edwards
>there was virtually no criticism
how quickly we forget
Ryan Myers
>but when BF1 launched without Gallipoli
Isn't the Australian war stories set in gallipoli?
Kevin Morris
There are plenty of stories about women fighters too. Russia is full of them, Poland's resistance had a bunch of fighting women too, France. Hell, the Brits had women on the AA guns during the Blitz.
Jackson Hill
BF1 got a ton of flak on Yea Forums for it, but yeah, like you said nobody ever had any major expectations for it. I guess BFV doesn't really do itself any favors either when it lacked with so much content, but that's unrelated to this thread.
Gavin Reyes
Not enough to matter. It was the best selling Battlefield game ever.
Ryder Foster
Name a single woman that took part in the Heavy Water Sabotage
Jackson Smith
I'm sure she 100% had all those kills and wasn't Soviet Propaganda at all!
Tyler Parker
>vritually no criticism
Sweetie, it's like you werent here when African Kingdoms released for Age of Empires
Leo Mitchell
Could you be more new?
Blake Adams
You know what's funny is that Anita said that playing video games won't turn you into a misogynist. You aren't as attacked as you think you are and you're reaching for shit to validate your victim complex.
Conservative republican governor Matt Bevin implied that video games shouldn't be protected by the "so called freedom of speech" and that they were inspiring shooters and instruct men to degrade women. The white house had a propaganda video about how bad violence in games were because that's better than talking about gun control (which I agree we shouldn't touch) and mental health (which they don't want to touch).
Kevin Hill
Has anyone ever cared about the story of any game in the Battlefield series? Who gives a fuck?
Brody Cox
>Talking about politics in video games
>Doesnt mention pic related
Ryder Garcia
Name a single soldier who 360 no scoped xXx420weedlolxXx.
Nathaniel Lopez
I kinda cared about the bad company games. The characters were fun.
Dylan Clark
>This is why nobody cared when BF1 did "revisionism,"
Are you trying to subvert people? People were fucking PISSED about Nigfield 1 undermining what was an almost entirely white war, it was seen as extremely disrespectful and disgusting.
Zachary Gomez
>This is why nobody cared when BF1 did "revisionism,"
That's bullshit though, there was a ton of arguing back when BF1 was first being shown off about everything from the ethnic composition of the different factions to the number of automatic weapons available in the game or even the uniforms. To say it didn't happen is either ignorance or lies.
Easton Bennett
>ha ha the multiplayer is silly that means you can't say anything bad about the singleplayer's story
Levi Stewart
>Conservative republican governor Matt Bevin implied that video games shouldn't be protected by the "so called freedom of speech" and that they were inspiring shooters and instruct men to degrade women. The white house had a propaganda video about how bad violence in games were because that's better than talking about gun control (which I agree we shouldn't touch) and mental health (which they don't want to touch).
It's amazing how SJW's and their religion are so much like the religious right.
Brody Long
Name a single man who did without looking it up.
Camden Baker
Isaiah Cook
Except it took the Ancap strawman, and made something fun out of it
Jacob Morris
which talks about politics in a complex fashion. Andrew Ryan, a villian, is considered to be one of the best designed characters in gaming.
Carter Smith
people only cared on Yea Forums. BF1 was critically acclaimed and sold like crazy.
Gabriel Gonzalez
Knut Haukelid
Lucas Gray
BC 1 & 2 best time of my life. 10/10 would rush again
Jackson Davis
Games had politics, no fucking shit retards, what people don't want is shit like Wolfenstein 2's shitty marketing, BFV's shitty "look some people that hate this game are sexist so you can't be critical of it"
Lmao Anita also said she wasn't taking their games, and low and behold that was her goal all along. Keep pretending.
Liberal faggots like you and Anita are ruining the gaming industry, republicans aren't.
Brayden Morales
Fuck off fence sitter
Thomas Gray
Bad Company had a completely forgettable story.
Colton Reyes
"For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ."
Parker White
Haha! I struck a chord to the conservative christian.
Nathaniel Cook
To its defense, there were colonial troops in WW1. Honestly, the Harlem Hellfighters segment was one of the strongest points of the BF1 campaign because the "war stories" were just 2-4 mission episodes of easily expectes outcomes
There's a reason why everyone is shitting on the Female story in BFV, but not the African French Foreign Legion stories--there's race pandering with acceptable realism, but then there's just blatant misrepresentation
Charles Martin
>okay but that doesn't count
Oh what a surprise.
Luis Gray
Not an argument, christcuck.
Hunter James
It’s you fucks who can’t take a side like normal people who ruin politicians. We didn’t beat the nazis by being in the middle
Ryan Jackson
Everything I wrote is true though? 3D girls are pig disgusting and ruin everything. Thus reducing male enjoyment.
And I shouldn't even have to explain why WW2 is touchy subject and I really don't feel like getting into it.
James Phillips
What’s up everybody this is the act man here
Jacob Nelson
CoD's story has been anti-patriotism for over a decade though. Maybe some vague nationalistic ideal behind it all, but the plot is constantly about your own people fucking you over.
Carson White
Exactly. If you're going to make a case for politics in video games, you should bring up examples of intentional political themes strengthening a games quality, instead of just what political implications come with the game (Although I believe both are important to discuss).
Justin Gonzalez
>Your choices are lumpy shit or runny shit
>Hurrrr pick a side fence sitter
Jacob Young
Do you know what "virtually no criticism" is? Yea Forums is like .01% of people who play games. It doesn't matter if Yea Forums didn't like it, the rest of the planet liked it.
Jaxson Green
The ghost scene in MW2 is a perfect example
Thomas Sanders
>Implying having your story either feature or be built around political themes is the same as hamfisted agenda bullshit
Also of course some reddit retard would think Halo 3 is about 9/11
Camden Brown
Just another ends justify the means retard.
It's all so tiresome.
Jaxson Bailey
You may be into something, we can change to degenerate, maybe? Preaching pandering propaganda ?
Joseph Morgan
fuck orang grumpf and fuck white men
Colton Perez
There’s some retard who seems to not understand the difference between choosing a female character in multiplayer vs being forced to be a female character in a depiction of a historical event.
Even if it’s not a historical event, being forced to play as a woman is retarded. Giving players the choice is one thing, but making a white male player (the main demographic btw) break his immersion to play as a main character female for no other reason than to just force him is retarded.
There is a difference between player’s choice (which is a good thing) and just deciding that the player has to be a female or be gay or black etc when it has no real reason or logic behind it.
Jack Butler
> Andrew Ryan, a villian, is considered to be one of the best designed characters in gaming
Austin Mitchell
>A-anita is gonna take muh vidya
>5+ years later and she has yet to take a single vidya
Hmmmm
Joshua Cruz
Nice meme, npc
Jack Sanchez
you don't understand company's nowadays they have realised that you retards cry about everything they do and give them attention and potential sales your so called woke company's are merely using the system which you so adore for their own gain
Adrian James
All politics are identity politics, depends on the levels of detachment how direct it is, but that's what it is.
Unless you don't view culture as identity, but then you would be retarded.
Ian Jones
Isn't the problem with Battlefield that they took actual history and turned it into a feminist power piece, effectively erasing the actual stories of the mwn who sacrificed their lives in the war?
Jeremiah Sanders
FUCK TRANNIES
Owen Adams
The left CANNOT MEME
I also love how leftists try to undermine narratives. Yeah, listen dipshit. We don't want women in a historical world war game, we also don't like ugly women. Respect that, only your political cult think there is something wrong with not wanting that.
Gavin Moore
>grumf
Isn't the joke that John Oliver found out his original last name was "Drumf" and Trump refered to Jon Stewart as his real last name "Leibowitz"? They weren't just making up words.
Ian Scott
>All politics are identity politics
How do people become this delusional, bros? Where do people get the confidence to think they know how to put people into nice little boxes?
Jackson Morales
BFV:
>markets the game as WWII but butchers history all in the name of SJW agenda
>PoC everywhere in BF1 and this
>SJW have had no notable place or events in history so they had to tarnish one of mankind's greatest conflicts
>all in the name of "accessibility", "diversity" and "inclusiveness"
other games:
>Straight out stated that the game is but a work of fiction and any semblance to irl events are purely coincidental
>focuses on storytelling, fun gameplay and interesting setting
There's a reason why games like GTA: San Andreas, Tomb Raider, Metroid and Dino Crisis etc are games that people like.
They weren't made with "But we HAVE to have [insert minority]!" mindset, no, they were made with a clear setting in mind and a fitting, likeable protagonist that looks like they belong.
For another example, compare female characters like (old tomb raider) Lara Croft to Aloy (horizon zero dawn)
Lara: Strong, Confident, bad ass, intelligent, nihilistic with a wicked sense of humor
Aloy: Mentally weak, whiny, stupid, constantly "lost", unrealistically suffering some kind of retarded identity crisis
The truth is, when a developer has a character in mind BEFORE they even decide if they're a a man or woman, you know they're doing a good job,
but when a developer has to stop and think about ethnicities, disabilities and genders you know their motives are clearly not about making an interesting character.
Kevin Bailey
I just hope you become victim of your own falsehood.
Charles Wright
>Decide to google search the image
>It's a fucking reddit page for retarded communists
Of fucking course
Ryder Stewart
We've had this thread the other day. This was already debunked. Go read the archive.
Jackson Morales
She took Anthem.
Landon Brooks
I'm like, 98% sure Modern Warfare 2 incited war.
David Wilson
What does that have to do with Master Chief and/or Halo?
Xavier Carter
Beucase they're being piloted around by ideas, self examination could kill the idea riding around in their head so it forces insanity to survive
Kevin Barnes
Nigger politics are about getting what you want, not just about belonging to a group for its own sake. And that's all these diversity politics are: narcissistic adult children feelings left out of things, because everything has to revolve around them.
Tyler Cruz
Yeah it's almost like the sperg rage is arriving force behind marketing because ads don't work anymore, so companies shoe in shit specifically to piss off a small minority of people to throw shit fits online so the majority can point and laugh while being inundated with product placement.
It's literally the same driving force behind reality TV because the world wants to watch sperging out of touch societal rejects throw shit fits. Especially because most of the retards don't have spine in the first place and end up rebuying all the shit they break because no one actually gives a fuck what anybody else owns.
Isaac Wright
Battlefield was hardly about providing a perfectly historical experience where every soldier was based off someone real. That's like saying giving a player control of a character is erasure because the actions he takes are inaccurate to history and who ever really won the war with ten headshots a level had their efforts erased.
Julian Turner
>A plot line using analogy, and/or symbolism, and/or philosophy, to explore the reasons behind a goal driven narrative.
>A hamfisted attempt to validate the mental illnesses of people that don't even buy games by virtue signalling and shoehorning.
So what's it gonna be user?
Daniel Robinson
>muh communism boogeyman.
Sharing is bad, huh
Bentley Gutierrez
this post is extremely low quality.
Leo Barnes
You know the arbiter was originally supposed to be called the dervish until microsoft told bungie nope.
Jaxon Butler
>Halo 9/11
Retarded
Anthony Butler
>Fiction
>Historical Science-Fiction
>Sciene-Fiction
>DUDE REALISM LMAO THIS IS HISTORY
Blake Myers
Anthem is right there. What do you mean?
Isaac Lewis
>Halo is about 9/11
Also potential subtle social commentary that you made up in your head to reach for an argument is different from actively pandering to an audience that’s not your core demographic by using IDENTITY politics to get brownie points even if it doesn’t make any sense in the context of your games’ world/history. Twitter is gay.
Dylan Bell
>Sharing is bad, huh
no one said that. pretty sure we are taught that in kindergarten.
Christopher Adams
Why would they name arbiter after a dancing guy
Andrew Richardson
>DOA changes because it wants ESPN money
>B-but it was ANITAAAAA!
Parker Turner
No! they decided not to because they didnt want retards like op linking the covenant to muslims
Jackson Thomas
How many socialist hell holes have to collapse for you people to realise that centralised ownership of all means of production and wide spread price controls is not a good idea
Brody Kelly
Okay everything is political then.
I want SJWs to get out of my videogames.
Ryder Nguyen
>the left can’t meme
All while we actually educate ourself at colleges and earn degrees while you’re still in middle school
Hudson Ross
...
Ryan Collins
Battlefield V was never marketed as being historically accurate.
Isaiah Perry
>Dervish meaning a Sufi who stands at the door of enlightenment; an instrument of God
Ryan Reyes
>The Red Line
Hope you brought a knife.
Connor Moore
Games have stayed Japan only for marketing reasons forever. Making this suddenly an exclusively feminist problem because you're head deep in a political war and can't see the bigger picture of American conservativism still effecting their options in large chains that they'd want to market their games through.
Brayden Sanchez
based
Daniel Davis
Zachary Diaz
Then why even make it a ww2 game? Who even WANTS a new ww2 game??
Joseph Foster
It aligning with your politics doesn't make it apolitical, it just makes it invisible to you.
Isaac Phillips
now watch people do gold medal mental gymnastics to try to prove you wrong
Nathaniel Anderson
>women are automatically SJW
I miss the days when the word "SJW" was reserved for obnoxious twitter bullies.
Nathaniel Murphy
for reasons Yea Forums can never understand: fun
Jordan Ward
t. pinko faggot
Brandon Price
Wow, gee user, you sure have a big brain.
Liam Bennett
>wordswordswordswords
Where's the joke?
Joshua Lewis
It's almost like nobody cared and now people care for literally no reason. It wouldn't be a marketing stunt if it didn't have hundreds of people paid millions more than you will ever see, taking notice to a vocal minority making a stink about it, and the minority being retarded that they ate, think they are anywhere near a sizeable market chunk and that the constant blaring media attention they get for triggering them sells games.
It's not like corporations care a single fuck user, it's literally all a game to them to try and get the most money possible, and you are too blinded by the reality that most normies don't give a fuck anyway or that your opinions matter either way to the powers at be.
That's what marketing does, it afixes itself to any trend possible to try and trick people into spending money, and sperg entertainment is literally the biggest money makers, you are being played hardcore and it's been that way since /pol/ realised they could and media companies discovered they could too.
Lincoln Baker
i know this might scare you, user, but fellow students of yours are actually conservative!
I know! Don't be frightened! They like to keep to themselves because they know you'll have a conniption fit if they tell you.
Oliver Anderson
But that game wasn't even good? Also does it being set in ww2 actually effect your fun levels? Are you an actual nazi?
Michael Gray
When even the biggest BF shills like levelcap and jackfrags shit on your bf game for not being fun, you’ve got a problem
Brayden Richardson
It's funny that you think your community college degree is worth more than a middle school education.
Isaiah Diaz
I don't think they're saying the companies are morally good for including female options.
Blake Sanchez
>but fellow students of yours are actually conservative
Yeah they drop out in second year due to failing exams and spend the rest of their lives posting bitter threads on r9k and pol about how colleges are marxists training camps
Daniel Taylor
not everything is a political message. you're being retarded.
Anthony Harris
>Didn't claim to be real
>Didn't claim to be real
>Sci-Fi
>Claimed to be an accurate retelling of one of the most brutal wars in world history despite being incredibly inaccurate by falsely representing events and people who were involved with the war
This isn't hard, you know.
Liam Bennett
Welcome to the realization that "SJW" is a stupid thought-terminating nothing phrase
"social justice" was coined by American fascists to describe their own agenda. It has no concrete meaning. The "warrior" part is obviously just there to aggrandize the sin of disagreeing with the speaker
Camden Sanchez
How many poor people must suffer under captialism for you people to realise that a small amount of people controlling all the wealth and resources while pushing racism is not a good idea
Josiah Price
Teehee
You got me, I'm a brainlet
I've never played the damn games, okay?
Cooper Price
How’s that arts degree going Linda?
Ian Brown
>Claimed to be an accurate retelling
Dylan Reed
How accurate did they claim to be? Source?
Asher Moore
>claimed to be an accurate retelling
source?
Grayson Ward
>spend the rest of their lives posting bitter threads on r9k and pol about how colleges are marxists training camps
the level of cope with you is insane!
does it bother you THAT much people have a different viewpoint than you?
Camden Reyes
Ironically Jim Crow was identity politics and yet retards here think it's something the left started.
Blake Hall
Alt right republicunt conservatards are incapable of making art or games.
Gavin Gray
Whether they succeeded or not doesn't change the fact that they made those choices in the name of fun. Fact is, Battlefield V wasn't ever marketed as being a historically authentic experience and people complaining that it's not are doing so cynically in order to score points in stupid culture battle.
Justin James
level headed people as conservatives? AHAHAHAHAHAHA
Aiden Lewis
Elijah Ross
yeah they hate it which is why they play it and make videos about it regularly
they trashed BF1 even more because it was the most consolized game in the series but that didn't stop them from playing it
Adam Ramirez
kotaku.com
>Battlefield is going back to World War II, developer DICE said during a livestream today, promising that the newly announced Battlefield V will tell “real stories about men and women who changed history” over the course of the second World War.
Oliver Richardson
They often fail at basic art appreciation.
Ian Roberts
wouldn't know, i studied mechanical engineering
I saw it both in meat space when I was in college and I see it daily whenever I am on this website
Hudson Diaz
Right, games that align with a right wing image of America as a worldwide interventionist military force aren't political at all.
Nathaniel Walker
variety.com
gamerant.com
gamingbolt.com
comicbook.com
Read up. One of the common excuses on EA/Dice's part when defending women was that BFV was their "own interpretation of what we think WW1 was like"
>They prohibit discussing the historical accuracy on their subreddit
OH NONONONONONONONONONONONO
Noah Diaz
did I say it was called historically accurate?
no?
that's right, fuck off.
I said "marketed as a WWII game"
you know what this line means right?
If you make a WWII game, you're not supposed stray from realism so much that you'd utterly ruin it.
You wouldn't like seeing a game about samurai civil war being depicted as niggers
You wouldn't want native americans be depicted as niggers OR whites
You wouldn't want african tribesmen be depicted as whites etc
it's all basic knowledge but SJW refuse it for the sake of inclusiveness
Julian Jackson
Something claiming to be real or not has no bearing on whether it's political or not, you numpty.
Caleb Kelly
The term SJW never made sense
Someone's zealous about fighting for social justice? Okay? Good? What am I supposed to be mad about?
The kind of people who believe in putting minorities over non-minorities (instead of fighting for equality) are wrong, but it's not because they're fighting for their cause
Matthew Edwards
Leo Hernandez
found the nazi incel
Luis Gutierrez
it is.
The covenant are religious fanatics fighting against an imperialist society.
Juan Perez
>Driving force behind getting what you want isn't about advancing your own ideals and culture thus enshrining a world that identifies with the same common goals as you
Aka identity politics. You are fucking retarded if you think that politics isn't born out of advancing the goals of common groups, there wouldn't be nation states otherwise.
>Narcissistic adult children feeling left out of things because everything has to revolve around them.
Fucking rich coming from someone too butthurt to engage in politics because there are people that have differing ideals and feels that the solution is to get rid of conflicting ideas so that their own ideas can survive. Stay in your basement faggot, you will only serve to hurt your cause because you are too retarded to understand how to define the fight, let alone fight for it.
Benjamin Harris
>You wouldn't like seeing a game about samurai civil war being depicted as niggers
y i k e s
Aiden Gutierrez
>Jim Crow, a law where you couldn’t do or get basic human needs because of your skin color, is the same as saying mighty putty is a gender
Mason Taylor
conservatives are incapable of doing anything except reading the bible.
Easton Morris
>complaining about changing minority and female characters to white guys is awful because you’re pandering to people while also changing the context of the entire story
>but doing the same thing with changing white guys to minorities and women is cool and if you complain about it then you hate girls and blacks
Adrian Bailey
>He thinks attempting to brainwash people over a political agenda isn't political
you need to go back
Connor Thomas
But people have been shitting on the other 3 games for years. Also didn't Modern Warfare have a bunch of anti-war quotes every time you fucking died
Hudson Young
>"social justice" was coined by American fascists to describe their own agenda.
lol what in the ever loving fuck?
No social justice is explicitly a statement regarding the just distribution in a society.
It is explicitly about comparing one person's livelihood to another person's livelihood and saying, "This guy good; this guy bad."
It is explicitly a viewpoint that the ends justify the means.
When in reality, we really can't make these types of distinctions. All we can make sure of is whatever endstate we reach at is done so through voluntary action.
in other words, the means justify the ends.
To say anything about that endstate would be to put your own personal subjective opinion into that endstate. That's why we have politics to discuss this, with varying different opinions.
But considering you use the term "fascist" to describe the American democratic political system, i'm going to bet you're a delusional retard from /leftypol/ who JUUUUST is so angry that you're not getting your way.
Josiah Ramirez
And where do the flood and the rings fit into this 9/11 allegory?
Joshua Garcia
if you want to make this about twitter retardation, there is PLENTY of ammunition
Kevin Rodriguez
452665142
At least be smart with your bait
Ian Ortiz
I wish, that would mean they would follow Jesus's teachings, and Jesus was a pretty cool dude. Conservatards just act like they know how to read.... the bible.
Jacob White
>opinions
>marketing
Got anything better?
Like how Hamilton tells the story of real historical figures. I don't think they're claiming George Washington was black and sang well.
Kevin Russell
>People with different skin color= fun :)
>Not shit like walking tanks, jetpack soldiers, and powered battle suits.
Can't do anything right, literally cannot, for the fucking life of them, do anything right.
Worthless, absolutely fucking subhuman.
Lincoln Sullivan
But half of the covenant joins the humans
Jace Lopez
>claiming to represent real history while altering the descriptions of events to suit your agenda isn't political
Guess all those /pol/ holocaust infographics are apolitical then.
Luke Scott
Been here longer than you, you mouth breathing 22 year old nü-trad failure of sperm.
Adam Powell
>pre gamer-gate
>hey guys video games are fun hehe
>post gamer-gate
>women in video games, fucking feminism, less than 50% white cast? white genocide, why are politics in video games? huh? I'm the one that pointed it out? I'm the one making the threads? so what if I don't have a job, the jews are to blame
Ethan Cruz
I remember in Modern Warfare when you died they'd hit you with an anti war quote, some of them were just the costs for various weapons, like a Tomahawk missile. Not saying they were overall anti war, but acting like they were pure jingoistic propaganda is silly.
Caleb Smith
It was just the Shanelilis
Cooper Ramirez
I remember there being a fuckload of threads complaining about Gone Home and Anita Sarkeesian leading up to Gamergate.
Cameron Bailey
Every shitty ww2 movie is political, it's all inaccurate and altered real life events.
EVERY
WW2
MOVIE
So where are the fat republitards screaming?
Matthew Bailey
I never really thought about it but it makes sense how heavily 9/11 influenced the story of halo
Anthony Evans
You just did the opposite of reading comprehension.
Modern Warfare 2 does not attempt to depict real events. This does not make it apolitical.
Carter Moore
Remember when DICE and EA were paid huge sums of money paid for by tax payers to portray Americans as leading the good fight against islamic terrorists?
this entire game plays like an ad from the USAF. Games were always political, you just didn't know it yet.
Camden Adams
...
Angel Howard
Leo Lee
you forgot
>Post gamergate
>Yea Forums becomes infested with literal faggots
Joseph Sanders
That's political though. Anarchy is political too.
James Morales
It was pre /pol/ migrating here and contaminating the board with their shitty idpol.
Jayden Ward
>I am so retarded I can only conceptualize a term through buzzword terminology and can't analyze shit beyond what other people say a word means.
You know if you are retarded it doesn't help how many other retards pat you on the back to tell you you are right.
Eli Lewis
Which is half of the bulk of their main forces
Luis Hernandez
...
Brody Cruz
>...that are still upset about Nov 2016
Noah Smith
I was hoping for some women to be furious and blame a man for making this just to be shown it was the opposite
Joseph Ramirez
Impeachment is imminent.
Brody Foster
Double trips for double truth. GG and election kids are cancer.
Cooper Barnes
>Opinions
You mean quotes from the literal devs? Their own opinions drove them to create a game with immense amounts of historical inaccuracies just to market to millennials who have no idea about the details of WW1 and embrace the idea of widespread diversity
Yes clearly, now get out of your lazyboy and go take a shower you stinking, bumbling, onions-powered lardlet.
Xavier Wright
....says nervous man for the 56th time
Joshua Lee
Was that supposed to negate that fact that these guys were fapping over some assumed narrative that the sculpture was some kind of Western Man's worship of the Aryan Female?
Cameron Ross
The Act Man is shit.
Luis Scott
What?
Michael Stewart
Hold on
>Elites, Grunts, and Hunters rebel in Halo 2
>only elites join humans in Halo 3
>Chief says “truce with the covenant” in Halo 4
Gabriel Gray
Who made this thread political? Was it SJWs? No? Then who could it be other than perhaps... /pol/...?
Evan Price
>He still thinks he's actually going to be impeached
>He still believes in the Russia hoax
>He still thinks Burn-out is going to win the next election
Nicholas Kelly
Diversity is a good thing. If a few little twists of the truth need to be said in order to encourage it, then who are we to judge.
Jose Ramirez
No you fucking retard, read the post again
Ryder Adams
Diversity is bad, incest and limited gene pools are the future.
Ethan Collins
let's pretend that's what happened to sooth our conservative butthurt user
F-feminazis b-btfo...!
Matthew Watson
Me trole pol!!!
Owen Morales
Assassination imminent
Daniel Martinez
all chinese can do is steal and imitate others. They're the insects of humanity
Ethan Allen
hey buddy, i think you got the wrong board.
Alexander Hernandez
I mean it's a meme but it's objectively true.
Hundreds if not thousands of games that are right wing or follow the status quo and no one bats an eye. The second it's on the side of the aisle edgy internet conservatives disagree with, then it's "sToP PoLiTiCizInG"
And you're too focused on drumpf dick sucking to realize how hypocritical you're being.
Just like people who say wow wish those blacks would stop kneeling during the NFL I just want to watch my football don't they know 13% 50%? They should just keep playing the game
Evan Diaz
There's nothing about that post that was relevant to mine, so what were you getting at
Chase Wright
took their sweet time
Benjamin Clark
One is fictional events meant to entertain
The other is rewriting history for a real life purpose
One creates its own world to dick around in
The other took a real life event of Norwegian commandos sabotaging a heavy water plant and replaced them all with a singular girl to tell a girl power mother-daughter story, and they released it the same year that the leader of the commandos died.
One has you fight aliens because it's cool.
The other, in an attempt to get more sales and stoke the fires of race relations, perpetuates the entirely false myth that the French wrote black troops out of their history.
Jayden Sullivan
Gamer Gate caused a massive autistic butterfly effect.
Aaron Bennett
>He still believes in the Russia hoax
>who cares of Muller and co said Russia interfered? Let me tell you about how every politician is involved with a pizzeria
Ethan Thompson
>Let's forget about the past in order to push diversity, what could possibly go wrong?
Okay, I'm now forgetting slavery in America ever happened. Lets go diversity!
Wyatt Nelson
And surface in the middle of an American carrier group in the middle of a high alert war game.
warhistoryonline.com
Lincoln Lopez
Well it takes extensive planning to maximize the odds of pulling it off successfully in one go. I can't say as I blame them.
Aaron Sullivan
>Fence sitters actually see this as truth
Thomas Scott
BFV is garbage, tho
Landon Garcia
How the fuck did anyone read Ass Creed as that?
Jaxson Baker
only because it doesn't have enough maps and theatres yet
Cameron Roberts
>Played for the Multiplayer and the Single Player was only Enjoyed for the bombastic setpieces and not the story which gets panned immediately with MW3
>Played because people loved the settings and times they picked, story was interesting because of the characters and not their factions and influence on the world which is hardly explored to the point the modern era is only in cutscenes and in the extended universe.
>Literally prasied for "Reinventing" online multiplayer and the Campaigns were enjoyed for the narrative and Killing ailiens told and not the "Fuck Space Muslims"
>Battlefield 5 literally rewrites history to allow people to inappropriately self insert and mocked those who criticized the lack of historical accuracy whereas no other game in that list takes place in a historically accurate setting and are framed in the near distant future instead.
These SJW memes only show how shallow their knowledge in these games actually is.
David Robinson
Halo has always been religious not political.
Joshua James
>Hundreds if not thousands of games that are right wing or follow the status quo and no one bats an eye.
the hell are you talking about
Kevin Foster
dude it was like that long before Gamergate
Jayden Russell
Halo 3 was a huge stretch but the Modern Warfare and Assassin’s Creed descriptions were spot on
Benjamin Russell
>joke
just calling someone "Drumpf" is not a joke, or a punchline, or funny
>durr all murikans are immigrants
MY ancestors came through Ellis Island and went through the proper legal processes, so the Mexicans can too.
Nathaniel Smith
>He's a gay McCarthy
>He takes himself very seriously
Easton Flores
Try again sweaty
Colton Cook
>Their own opinions drove them to create a game with immense amounts of historical inaccuracies just to market to millennials who have no idea about the details of WW1 and embrace the idea of widespread diversity
It's WW2 and I really hope you're upset with Saving Private Ryan for misleading kids into thinking Hollywood is filled with war heroes.
Dylan Wright
Where did it say "overthrow", retard?
Carson Sanders
>proper legal processes
>genocides the natives
Evan Baker
Then why is it mainly liberals bitching about video games all the time
Jaxon Ortiz
ask me anything
Wyatt Edwards
>post GG
the fappening AND gg really fucked this site over, and opened the floodgates for normies
Thomas Scott
This but unironically. Becoming one uniform mass with no differences is the future.
Luis Jenkins
90% of war games are right wing appeals to nationalism. It's invisible to you because it's the background noise of your culture.
Owen Martinez
His name and number in game is John 117. The Covenant is obviously a religious group of aliens and Master Chief (John 117) saves humanity but sacrificing himself (but he doesn't actually) in the first game. That's about as far as the allegory goes. So yeah, the devs used names and phrases from Christianity and made the aliens all follow the same religion but that's it.
Benjamin Bell
Colton Sanders
bungie did 911 confirmed
Nolan Sanders
Guys, what Pizza Parlor is Trump's child sex ring under? He's a rich dude, you know he fucks kids.
Samuel Allen
>Stop calling him Drumpf, it's not funny!!
Blake Hill
thanks user (⊃。•́•̀。)⊃
Brandon Gray
They imitated the sub technology that the russians sold them. Like i said, they're shapeshifting bugmen.
Cameron Baker
In that exact video he says politics are okay when it's within the story/setting of the game. Battlefield 5 has modern day tranny politics when it could be showing the horrors of war and shit like WW2 should be about. Kill yourself immediately OP.
Aaron Williams
It's not illegal to surrender yourself at the border to begin a defensive asylum process.
Lucas Ortiz
Featuring women and minorities = white genocide
Dominic Parker
its called bad writing. libs are shit writers in the industry, so when they make politics in their games, its obvious and dumb, and we all hate it, get over it you fag
John Wilson
The joke is the Yea Forums joke of "lol Drumpf" and what it references. Making mocking variations doesn't make sense in context. I'm not making a point about immigrants.
Xavier Williams
Of course they cant
The assassins creed and mw2 ones were actually an integral part of the story, they didnt just throw women and minorities into ww2, said "fuck history and fuck wypipo" then called it a day
Leo Bell
Lol WHAAAAT??
Omg this seriously made me laugh.
Kevin Ross
The average video game player (ie most of Yea Forums) is completely 100% media illiterate and didn't think for one second about the themes or motifs of any single game they played prior to 2010, and even now all they do is count the colored people
Eli Kelly
uh oh, got one
which side do you belong to sweetie
John Baker
And Americans imitated the technology from Nazi scientists.
Angel Cox
Not even Trump's allies think he's innocent. When you call someone a "rat" or saying they're "flipping" for testifying, that's the exact opposite of what innocent people do. That's what gangsters do when it's public knowledge that they're in shady shit but the only thing keeping them out of jail is everyone involved being tight-lipped. And to make it even more apparent that Republican from Florida tried to threaten Cohen over Twitter and may be disbarred for witness tampering.
Look at the list of people who used to work for Trump and came out of it with horror stories about his administration. Look at the people still loyal to him have trouble honestly saying they think Trump is innocent and instead concern themselves with whether or not the latest former Trump ally is going to squeal. He runs his circle like a fucking mob and you sycophants are still shilling for him because he promised to trigger the libs and kick out the scary browns.
Jackson Rivera
The single player of BFV was based on a true story. The only thing was that the mission was actually carried out by a group of men but they changed it to two women in the game. It was very disrespectful to the men who they were trying to erase from history to score progressive points
Isaac Brown
Is it actually good? I liked the beta a lot but it felt more like a good foundation than something I’d pay for. Now that it’s been out for a few months how has it been?
Liam Garcia
>coloured people
The correct term is "People of colour" you bigot. If you had a job i'd make sure you got fired.
Adam Foster
If the first 3 are a reach, then what is the 4th? A zoom punch?
Henry Edwards
>he average video game player (ie most of Yea Forums)
Most of Yea Forums doesnt even play games.
Hudson Gonzalez
Laughter is a common defense mechanism when faced with an uncomfortable truth.
Dylan Mitchell
>Battlefield 5 has modern day tranny politics
Press F to not misgender?
NEW OBJECTIVE: Use proper restroom?
Brandon Thompson
>Sharing is bad, huh
If you are forced to share that isn't sharing, it's theft.
Thomas Sanchez
Love you fence sitters, too afraid to actually pick a side but at the same time think themselves holier than thou.
Sebastian Barnes
>actual Pentagon propaganda
>based
>questionable but I didn't play Halo beyond Halo 1 and the target audience of 12 year olds don't pay attention to that
>I don't object to that, but I don't play shitty on-rails shooters, the only thing I object to is EA exploiting it to sell more copies, they don't give a fuck and IT SHOWS
So only number 2 did it right. Again I don't object to politics in video games but I do dislike "politics" having become synonymous with identity politics. We're all members of the same species, I support equal rights for all, I don't even mind a bunch of hot women being retroactively shoved into a WW1 game IF THE GAME IS WORTH PLAYING. NOLF (No One Lives Forever) did it right. AC games with a female protag and strong female characters in whatever historical setting and actual real politics = buy. Shitty on-rails sequel number 5/6 (lost count) exploiting a google trending keyword to sell copies = nope, no thanks, bye.
The funny thing is that most identity politics SJWs don't mind EA _cynically_ exploiting this shit. They don't mind that millions of people are starving in Yemen at the hands of the same war machine that promises to be their new best friend because they support gay marriage. They don't mind that companies like EA and Activision have made "social justice" synonymous with one very specific hot topic issue, instead of carrying the meaning it should on the tin (actual social justice for all). No, let's just forget about all that nonsense that happens outside of our borders and only focus on ONE thing because HAHAHA IT MAKES GOOBERS MAD THAT'S ALL THAT MATTERS LMAOOO, Like, Share, Subscribe!!!!!!
Just for context, I support equal rights, gay marriage (though not as a tool of the state and church), good immigration policies (ie prioritize refugees and also do the max. possible good for economic migrants). You know what I can not in good conscience support? OP's faggotry and Electronic fucking Arts.
Christopher Kelly
Exactly
Anthony Fisher
>filename doesn't change
Have you no fucking shame OP?
Nathan Ward
>fence sitters
I'm not sitting on a fence or in the "center". You're both shit-eaters. Just because you're eating hard shit and someone else is eating diarrhea doesn't mean I want to soft shit. I'm not a centrist, I'm on the opposite end of eating shit entirely.
Lucas Gonzalez
so taxation is theft
Justin Fisher
Evan James
did you know: the reason your player spilled out money in MW2's multiplayer was a metaphor for all the money being wasted in the us war against terrorism
Hudson Cook
It's also a auditory response when seeing or hearing something that tickles ones funny bone
Samuel Barnes
Okay, so surface level at best, gotcha
Matthew Hernandez
movies and video games based around war, specifically modern warfare (not the game, the geopolitical conflict style) will work directly with the us military who have final say on creative decisions or they pull funding. do you realistically think that a game produced within that environment won't lean right
Landon Carter
You are aware most war games are depicted as a complex topic about national security and grunts being manipulated by evil business men, right?
>YEAHH WAR GOOD! SHOOT SHOOT SHOOT THE EVIL MIDDLE EASTERNERS!
Is not the message.
Josiah Myers
Source? Who were they referencing?
Jose Hill
If this country has gotten to the point where the only one willing to promise to control the American border is a New York television personality (forget actually doing anything about mass migration, just talking about it as a problem is beyond 90% of the Republican party,) we have bigger problems than whatever the fuck that kike Cohen is squealing about to avoid a dark cell.
Jacob Reed
Vidya is inappropriate. Im a sjw
Charles Hill
>implying someone's relatives who came here through Ellis Island were here during cowboys and injuns.
Eli Russell
yes
it's morally acceptable to cheat your taxes
Jaxon Baker
aww.. you're still not telling me, the thing is i could give two fucks about politics but it's fun to see it turn to brain dead tribalism. and seeing as you refuse to say i take it "fence sitters" trigger you very much.
Hudson Phillips
Is that My Mom?
Oliver White
But the video is about the politicisation of games not the games themself having a political message.
But that doesn't matter cause reality isn't important.
Leo Hill
haha, bfv shit the bed so hard these low-rent bait threads are the only places it even gets a mention now
Brayden Baker
cease your bullshit retarded political bickering and making up bullshit political allegories in videogames just as an excuse to continue said politcal bickering.
I wont have this shit on harmony day you insufferable faggots. LOVE ONE ANOTHER.
>
Brandon Adams
>Modern Warfare
>Complex
LOOOOOL
Samuel Morgan
have you ever played a videogame in your life? I'm guessing not if that is your hypothetical scare tactic.
Connor Lee
>I refuse to pick a side because i'm anti-tribalism
>goes to a third tribe calling themselves the anti-tribalists
Ryder Taylor
>literally rewrites history and replaces white men with random women just to push an agenda
also the game just sucks
Levi Reed
Given the amount of transexual and woman pandering the US military engages in, I'll turn that question around, do you?
There's a strong isolationist streak in the current right, while the American left has taken in all the refugees from the W administration who want to talk about shit like nation building. The US military of 2019 is a leftist institution.
Nathan Kelly
Kayden Hughes
yes, that's why i understand what i'm talking about. are you denying that the us military doesn't directly fund and partner with movies/games/entertainment (you see how many jets they put in that captain marvel movie, friendo?), or that their partnership would never lead to a political message that leans right? i need to know which one you're mistaken on
Connor Evans
>illegal passage of the border is on a net decline compared to the 2000s, but it was still SO URGENT that we absolutely HAD to elect a corrupt game show host!
Yeah, enjoy the deserved looks of disgust when you try explaining that to your kids and grandkids.
Aiden Reyes
>sharing
thats a funny word for stealing others shit because you are a lazy cunt
Brandon Scott
The investigation has had carte blanche for three fucking years. If all they can dig up is paying off a porn star and shifting money for tax purposes, he's probably the squeakiest motherfucker in Washington.
Dominic Parker
>ignores my post entirely
you still couldn't help but respond right? I'll wait for that (you)
Xavier Baker
Go fuck men somewhere else you retarded ponyfag
Samuel Roberts
The anti-genocide law didn't exist then.
Anthony Phillips
>independents, a group which sides with a complex array of opinions, are a tribe
whew, lad.
Ryder Cooper
UNGA BUNGA CENTRISTS ARE TRIBALISTS
Jaxon Butler
lmao is
>if the rich people doing imperialisms want to sign up trans and women that means they're actually left wing!!!!
really the argument you're making.
you have unironically no idea what "the left" is if you think "nation building", "regime change", or any form of warfare is "the left".
>isolationist streak
drone warfare is just clean warfare, not isolationism
Nolan Hall
>HAD to elect a corrupt game show host!
But Clinton didn't win.
Benjamin Butler
>When they do it, it's fucking fascism
>When I do it you need to stop complaining
Besides, just because you came to a conclusion after an analysis does not confirm sole intent on behalf of the writers, whereas in the here and now it's blatantly obvious.
Got it, so we're just not allowed to have modern military action shooters anymore, cool. Fuck freedom of artistic expression
>No, not necessarily, as long as they cater to my ideals
Your ideals can be just as disgusting you fucking pinko cocksucker, but this only happens in the times of psychotic political hypertrophy that we are in now
I have a question for you, my friend. Were you always picked last in school sports? Do you feel uneasy and anxious when giving blood? Do you care more about justice than personal freedom?
Leo Campbell
Ah, so you should horde up 95% of the resources, porky pig
Zachary Gonzalez
Yeah, it has a lot of potential, they've been making improvements to the mechanics and balance and the first DLC map was great but sadly there's still not much content and the vanilla maps are kind of bland, the roadmap allegedly coming in march will make or break the game I think.
Brandon Moore
Anyone that "refuses to pick a side" has little to no understanding of politics or how electoralism works. You HAVE to pick a side, retard, they force it upon you. You will never, ever, ever get what you want if you think you can do it from the middle.
Xavier Sanders
>American politicians from both parties since Reagan have campaigned on illegal aliens as an issue
>Never do anything about it because they are bought off by (((someone)))
>American people more and more enraged by this
>W-w-what will you say to your children
Kill yourself tranny.
Henry Martin
Strike a nerve boys? Hurt one tribe member I hurt you all?
James Bailey
breaking news
man who plays game for money continues to play shit game for money
Jack Ross
>you see how many jets they put in that captain marvel movie, friendo?
>friendo
Oh my god... you're right. I CAN"T TRUST ANYTHING THAT OPERATES ON JET FUEL ANYMORE!
JET FUEL DOESN'T MELT STEEL BEAMS!
James Reyes
>needlessly tie 3 games to modern politics as an outsider looking in, then accuse some random white guy of not noticing
>decide not to acknowledge an entire marketing campaign based solely around politicizing and polarizing the 4th game because it would hurt the narrative in a meme you made to push against a nebulous political camp whose agenda does not align with yours
>the camp that didn't read into any of these games and asked marketers not to sell politics is the one politicizing everything, guys! honest! they called me a slacktivist they're evil! LISTEN TO ME
Austin Barnes
right, because it's women and minority groups in your videogames that are ruining them and not the shitty business practices of pretty much all big publishers in the industry now
fuck off you stupid political cultist
Adrian Russell
Haha le your both bad
Asher Evans
you're going to think this makes you right but just know that you're a compl
David Cruz
>Fuck freedom of artistic expression
This but unironically.
Evan Roberts
Why not kuhjgch
Oliver Scott
>EVERY VIDEOGAME IS POLITICAL I SWEAR GUYS
>LOOK PAY ATTENTION TO POLITICS!!!
fuck gaymergate
Easton Reed
This person you've created in your mind doesn't exist.
And even if they did it's not a common ideology and isn't taken seriously, retards screaming about white men on the internet have about as much impact as your post on Yea Forums right now.
Zachary White
Why so defensive, user? You're certainly allowed to have your modern military action shooters. Why does having them revealed make you so uncomfortable?
Jaxon Thompson
What an odd fixation you have with transsexuals, user. That's probably something you should check out with a licensed therapist, but I'm just here to talk about politics on a video game image board.
Jack Cruz
Do you walk down the street, writhing your hands muttering to yourself while you look at others and say, "Yep. That guy is in this camp. I can just SEE it in his eyes. That girl? That girl is in this camp, just look at how she walks."
I gotta know, cuz that's funny.
Xavier Miller
Women make the best videogames
Jose Howard
Gamer as a group are literally one step from recognizing that it's unrestricted capitalism at the root of every single evil they see in their hobby, from loot boxes to shitty games to, yes, "sjw pandering" but they just seem unwilling or unable to make that small jump
Jose King
>c'mon you gotta pick which shit to eat!
Fuck off, shit eater.
Angel Murphy
>tries to make a point about historical inaccuracy making the game more fun
>by playing a gif of a random multiplayer match that isn’t supposed to simulate or represent any actual battles that happened in WW2
>unlike the story mode which by DICE’s own words is based on “real stories” in WW2
Man, these people are desperate.
Parker Hill
>I'm just here to talk about politics on a video game image board.
sounds like you also need to check in with a licensed therapist tb.h
Parker Adams
Look, you actual nigger, the reason it's different is because everyone and everything is politically activated in the cultural paradigm shift we're all going through, so anything and everything deep is a potential raw spot. Also those are allegories, BFV is a lie.
Owen Evans
yeah user. you're smart, not like the other kids at your school (who are dumb btw).
Thomas Diaz
Yes that is absolutely an activity in which I partake in.
Kayden Cox
The difference is, the top 3's game dev team didn't talk shit and tell people not to buy the game ;)
FAGGOT
Brayden Garcia
God, you can just tell he thinks he looks so cool.
Robert Turner
fuck autoreply made me send before i was dumb. you're going to think that me saying this makes you right, but just know this: you appear to be a complete retard and i imagine the people you interact with (if any) all agree that you're a miserable person to be around
Leo Torres
>do you want soup or salad
>AAAAAAAAAHHH FUCK POLITICAL CHOICES I WANT A THRID CHOICE
Parker Reed
This
Ryan Clark
an easter egg that wasn't advertised and made the main selling point of a game is not the same as what you're defending
Caleb Thomas
>don't play cod because they've always been shit despite what zoomers will tell you
>assassins creed hasn't been good since the first one
>halo was literally babbys first fps
>battlefield has been shit since after bad company 2
literally who cares
James Rivera
Not that this is an excuse but we're all guilty of bickering over politics in this thread despite this being Yea Forums. However only one of us brought up transsexuals unprompted.
Oliver Brown
>Food analogy
Charles Cruz
>rich people doing imperialisms want to sign up trans and women that means they're actually left wing!!!!
Rich people doing globalism are left wing, yes. Those are the people who directly benefit from your idiocy. That's why they see the right and nationalism as a threat and you as useful
>any form of warfare is "the left"
No you have no clue what you're talking about, the left was founded in the French revolution and the wars that followed. In the modern day the most relevant political distinction is nationalism vs globalism. Nation building and regime change are aspects of globalism, as are the breakdown of the family and the rise of the welfare state. You don't get to pretend that your mythical form of leftism is actually going to come to power when you, in practice, support a multinational elite.
>drone warfare is just clean warfare, not isolationism
The only coherent arguments against the illegal war in Syria come from the right. Hell a couple weeks ago that jew Bill Maher had Ann Coulter on his show to harangue her for not supporting intervention in Venezuela. Sure John Bolton exists, but the anti war left has disappeared entirely.
Ian Gutierrez
What's even worse is that EA games failing they will then pretend it was not their fault for making a shitty game but that there is no audience for progressivism in games or the evil goobers successfully creating a backlash or some such nonsense, basically doing quad damage to whatever they supposedly stood up for in the first place. Absolutely disgusting.
Gavin Howard
>implying there's only two choices in the world of politics
Well unless you're american.
Christian Lewis
Cause those deal with a political setting inside the game
The last one deals with a forced political ideology outside the game.
John Anderson
>do you want soup or salad
>Oh no thank you
>HOW FUCKING DARE YOU WHAT DO YOU HAVE AGAINST SALAD AND SOUP!! JUST FUCKING PICK ONE ASSHOLE
Hudson Price
>do you want soup or salad
I'll have bread sticks, thanks :^)
What a garbage analogy.
Henry Lopez
>he thinks its any different in whatever shithole he lives in
just because you have a 3rd or 4th party which resemble the other two doesn't mean you have different choices retard
Hunter Cox
this is your brain on american politics
you either love trump and want to kill mexicans or hate whites and want them all to die
Joseph Wood
FUCKING FASCIST GAMER MEANIES BUY MY GAME RIGHT NOW REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Liam Moore
Reported so hard my reporting hand (right, fyi) gained a life of its own, clicking my mouse rapidly for 3 hours straight with such a tenacity it became clear arthiritis was the least of my worries, so clear was it that I could lose MY ENTIRE HAND to this bizarre possession. Suddenly my mouse smashed through my floor, pulling down my report hand as a hapless hostage. Smoke filled my bedroom and I woke up god knows how many hours later in a small village south of Aokigahara.
The people of this modest commune emerged slowly from their shacks, all of them viewing me with what I can only describe as suspicion mixed with awe. Suddenly they began throwing spears into the air and running towards me. I SHAT BRICKS, but then they GRABBED ME and LUNGED ME INTO THE AIR, praising my name and kissing me. The chieftan came down later and over a feast-for-one explained I was to be crowned The Chosen One, the Kamisama of Reporting foretold in Nihonese folklore to appear in the year 2018. At this moment an old Japanese woman - she must've been 85 years old at least - began doing some kind of dance, spinning around in circles whilst singing "Sorairo Days" and throwing confetti into the air. I was DOWN with this state of affairs, let me tell you.
For 300 years I trained with the chieftan in his private dojo, reporting shitty threads, every day becoming quicker. At first I could report 10 threads per minute. After only 2 weeks I was up to 5 threads per second. After a century my KTPM (kuso thread per minute) rate rose to and stalled at 200 per second.
On the last day he graced our planet, my sensei bestowed one last task to me: the reporting of this thread, the shittest of all shit threads.
I did not respond with words. Rather, through our eyes he knew I would obey.
This one's for you, Otousan.
Leo Jenkins
BF1 wasn't supported by its marketers tripling down on the controversy it generated, but it was shitposted about enough for its topic to be banned in 90% of online spaces while it was still relevant, which wasn't long because it was an annual franchise like AC
Andrew Hill
I want those red lobster bread thingamajiggers. I havent been there in a decade but that bread. mmm mmmm thats some good bread
Juan Price
>implying that this isn’t what most Americans actually believe
Brayden Bailey
We have a winner.
Asher Morris
>it doesn't count because I said so
mutt education
Ryan Thomas
Whites died a long time ago. There are no pure blooded whites in existence right now. Not 1.
Elijah Turner
>heh I was almost forced to accept that I was wrong, but then I noticed your analogy had food. Tough luck pal
Evan Reyes
pretty accurate unfortunately
Jason Brooks
>Wow why is this multiracial democracy breaking down along racial lines
>Stupid plebs I'm so much smarter than everyone else
t. head hanging from overpass
Jace Evans
we don't have the sales, but it's estimated at 15m
more people have been to Yea Forums and i'd estimate more people refer to Yea Forums fondly than people bought BF1
Blake Turner
Those are awesome. Do they serve lobster rolls there? I love those sandwiches
Bentley Allen
Yea Forums sanitarium when?
Isaiah Torres
Or you could look at the posts pointing out how stupid that food analogy is. Here, let me help you.
Easton Harris
>9/11 was the first instance of someone waging a war for their god
user...
Zachary Price
It's not deep. You just think people think it's deep because it's been beyond your scope until now, so you have to cope with the fact that you're a total retard by lashing out
Isaiah Taylor
Said the European as he paid for his cereal license for the 27yh time this hour
Joseph Martinez
no, it's not, but why do you think that's what people were doing? not even the media was saying that's what was happening, people were surrending inside the country if and when they were caught, which means they were already here illegally and trying to abuse what they saw as a loophole.
Ethan Rodriguez
>Such fat american fingers he hit y instead of t, disgusting.
Elijah Brown
Most of the covenant lore wasen't until the second game.
Ethan Evans
it's funny because we had a presidential candidate get past the primaries while still talking seriously about white privilege and nobody ever learns their lesson
James Williams
>the left can't meme.
Why would they want to? Meme's are just spam
Asher Carter
Enjoying that keyboard license?
Xavier Reyes
Sorry, pepe. We don’t have time to meme, because we have jobs and education to take care of, and not silly kid shit
Austin Roberts
are you even allowed to make fun of fat people
Dominic King
Imagine living in a country where the only valid choices are a) hardcore evangelical corporate cuckolds, or b) corporate cuckolds with a socially progressive coat of paint
This might come as a shock to you dipshit, but there’s a lot more to politics than that.
Where I lived there is:
-a neoliberal party
-a christian-democrat party
-a left wing social-democrat party
-flat out left wing/socialist labor party
-a more center leaning socdem party
Brody Perry
>Nobody cared when BF1 did "revisionism,"
Are we on the same fucking board right now?
Dylan Miller
actually a lot of marketing says it was, and a lot of it says it wasn't
they were flip flopping pretty hard between the two from what i saw
Adrian Adams
Maybe you should go convince the democratic party they're wasting millions of dollars trying, then.
Charles Green
My keyboard license keeps me safe and pays for public healthcare.
Fat people aren't a minority group anymore, so we are allowed to talk shit about them.
Jacob Williams
Not everyone who shits on america is from the UK. They're honestly just as bad in some aspects.
Nathaniel Jenkins
White privilege isn't radical though and O'Reilly recognized it.
Caleb Taylor
>Andrew Ryan, a villian, is considered to be one of the best designed characters in gaming.
>you bad man for playing game hit me with stick
this is considered great writing on 4channel
Hunter Gutierrez
I really should go back and play Bad Company again
Nathaniel Robinson
Ok, as you get fucked by the Germans for a 4th time, then
Oliver Edwards
Answer the questions nigger. Do they make you too uncomfortable?
What I'm saying is that I'd rather you not try to paternalise things you don't understand, that's what created people like you in the first place.
Just because you want someone bigger than you to come in and solve your problems because you're too weak to do it yourself doesn't mean that everyone else wants a big brother also.
Christopher Cox
Why would I want to do that when it's funnier to watch them fail.
Kevin White
>five flavors of leftism
Wow, such a glut of choice.
Brandon King
More like Bad Game Company, amirite? Amirite? HiiiiyooOOO
Caleb Watson
white privilege: being told your life is easy and any challenge you've overcome is nothing compared to the brown kid that got a free ride through college because of his skin color
Adrian Mitchell
Anthrax??
Kevin Sullivan
The developer didn't make the gif, he's responding to someone else's post you fucking idiot.
Xavier Wood
>neolibs and christdems are now leftists
How far up your ass are you?
Easton Brown
>Look at our 4 economically left wing parties
>We have choices tho since one is socially conservative :)
Literally the only standout is the neoliberal party, and unfortunately neoliberalism is shit. Choices my ass.
Jace Torres
>some chick
Yes...some chick yes that's totally it. Not anything else at all goys
Brody Campbell
They left our county alone in ww2 so I'm not sure what you mean by again.
Jaxon Allen
not him but i'd be terrified of receiving blood. i don't know if the technology is there or not but i don't want to get arthur ashe'd
Camden Clark
is the fucking jews
Henry Smith
>fiction
>fiction
>fiction
>World War 2
Ayden Martin
yes, it is. name one argument that utilizes it that doesn't ultimately advocate to discriminate against whites or discriminate in favor of giving nonwhites a clear advantage against them, as if whites needed a loss.
advocating racial discrimination is globally recognized as extremism no matter what camp it's against, why try to deny it?
Charles Ortiz
>Quotes from the devs stating that they have made a game about WW2 that they assert is historically accurate
>Doesn't count lol
Sebastian Garcia
They are. Neolibs just lean authoritarian and a Christian-bent doesn't swing a party towards any part of the spectrum specifically.
Jonathan Reed
He's saying that we should be able to have both without having ben shapiro mouth breathers telling you SJWs are trying to destroy america
Connor Nguyen
>right wing memes: post leftists believes that usually contradict each other
>lefty memes: I’m a right winger and I’m fat and hate black people
Carson Smith
>the brown kid that got a free ride through college because of his skin color
Where do you guys get this narrative that minorities go to college for free just for being minorities? Minority scholarships do exist, but you still have to apply for them and prove you're more deserving of the scholarship than the others applying for it. And even then those scholarships rarely give people full rides. Most of those scholarships are intended for poor minority kids whose parents can't afford to send them to school. Poor white kids can also apply and receive scholarships for students from low-income families, they just don't have White™ in the name.
Easton Phillips
I’m not talking about the developer comment, you moron. The original tweet and gif are obviously making the exact same point.
Anthony Evans
>Conflating narrative justification/influence for characters/factions and their actions (Halo, CoD, AssCreed) as advocation of political ideology being egregiously placed where it doesn't inherently belong (BFV)
Logan Long
And yet here you are strawmanning.
Matthew Lee
I don't give a shit if games are politicised. I have enough sense to recognise when media is trying to influence my views and process the material.
What I'm sick of is faggots on both sides complaining at anything the least bit political. It's all so tiresome.
Angel Garcia
That's like calling voting laws discriminatory because you can't vote if you're 15. Black communities are shit so a lot of the talk of privilege is so that the squeaky wheel gets the grease.
Hudson Wood
>White nationalist live in a misinformed bubble
You don't say
Oliver Clark
Show me a meme from each party that says otherwise
Angel Foster
I am also here to tell you that you are wrong, and that people chimped out on the board.
Henry Anderson
>some chick
um no, sweaty, dry again
using "normie" outs you as a normalfag
Cooper Taylor
>OP: "I'm a right winger and I overreact to (read: hate) women"
>strawmanning
sounds like it fits don't it?
you successfully didn't answer the question.
John Wood
....i’m not even gonna keep arguing dude, you are the embodiment of dunnung kruger
Liberalism isn’t left wing at all, and the“democrat” part of christian democrat doesn’t mean the same thing as democrat as in democrat party in america. U stupid
Ian Gomez
This is about accuracy?
>the newly announced Battlefield V will tell “real stories about men and women who changed history” over the course of the second World War.
They can make every WW2 a black dyke rapper in a broadway play they're "telling the story" because that doesn't imply complete accuracy, just that the story is told.
Jacob Brooks
What? In MW2 you end up discovering that the war was caused by a falseflag attack, and the main characters end up as fugitives for killing the US general that caused it. And in AC its implied that all religions have a bit of truth to them, specially Christianity. Hell, Adam, Eve and Eden actually existed in AC canon, ots just Adam and Eve were two of the original humans who rebelled against the aliens, gods or whatever that existed, and Eden was one of their cities.
Meanwhile the millennials writing games nowadays make commentary exclusively on stupid, pointless civilian politics driven entirely by boredom from people with no purpose.
Or simply rewriting known history, like the operation depicted in BFV, which was carried out by 40 men, most of which died, and is instead shown to be carried out by two women despite the game claiming to be accurate or authentic. Or hell, the soldiers in the multiplayer looking like a bunch of hipsters who only lack an iPhone.
Zachary Butler
Your question was just as good as this one: Why are you so dishonest?
Eli Torres
>Duck Season
>Rabbit Season
>"UGH! can't you see you're both the same thing! Wake up sheeple!"
Luke Wilson
>Why do people who've been programmed since birth to see any kind of racial inequality as evil point out racial inequalities applied to them
Mystery for the fucking ages I'm sure. Yes, there's scholarships for underserved children that aren't racially restricted. If it was demonstrated that any of those scholarships were disproportionately benefiting whites they'd be sued by the SPLC and the ACLU so fast their heads would spin. Let alone a scholarship that explicitly tried to help whites, that'd be shutdown overnight.
Double standards and hypocrisy make white people very mad.
Tyler Lewis
Does anyone remember the 180 on BC 2 as opposed to BC1 from misfit unit to "ELITE SQUAD SUPER SERIOUS!"
Camden Wood
what
start arguing anytime
Kayden Flores
Socialist/Communist death cult that rejects all classical wisdom.
SJWs believe the exact same platitudes espoused by the Jim Jones People's Church. It's a suicidal, hyper-destructive ideology.
They identify a problem and offer the worst possible solution.
Hunter Scott
>Eurofag
Like I said, five flavors of leftism.
Luis Morales
Since scholarships intended to get minority kids out of crime and poverty-stricken neighborhoods come across as double standards and hypocrisy to you, you must find /pol/'s daily gloating over minority crime and poverty statistics extremely confusing.
Mason Kelly
>Murder Season
>Different animal, same method of disposal
Now you see
Ian Cox
>despite the game claiming to be accurate or authentic.
The game says it's all accurate and authentic? Are you still thinking that "telling the real stories of men and women" means taking zero liberties in video game series that aims to be more Michael Bay than History Channel?
Joshua Lopez
>three unhistorical and unrealistic games not being advertised as historical
Perfectly fine.
>One game being unhistoric yet marketed as historical
No. Unacceptable.
I hope you die for making this shitty meme, OP.
Ayden Torres
Americans actually think their Democratic party is leftist. I wouldn't take anything they say seriously.
Luis Jackson
Yes, we all know why they changed those 40 into 2 girls.
Nicholas Rogers
SJWs are helpless, out of touch children of the upper-class who seek to suckle at the teat that created them.
They basically think they can extend childhood to encompass their entire lives. With government as their new parents.
They gravitate toward leftism because of all the "free stuff" it promises, completely blind to the fact that it's all government control disguised as charity.
Gavin Hill
Talk about a non sequitur
>Why does the government make it illegal to make a scholarship that benefits poor whites but gives millions to poor blacks
>Well racist why do you talk about crime statistics?
Try being less of a snarky and freak and actually make a point.
Jeremiah Sullivan
I'd rather be white. There's been shown that globally, white isn't he most attractive skin color, the most trustworthy people. We're globally the most influential and kick a lot of ass. Hell yes there's white privilege and there's non-white envy.
Carson Brooks
Arguing about what the marketing team did or didn't mean is doing exactly what they want you to do, talk about their game.
Lucas Anderson
Xavier Hernandez
Who were those 40? It sounds like standard action shooter antics. MGS3 had accurate historical information despite The Boss upstaging all those real men in WW2.