How do you go from Xenoblade Chronicles to this crap?

well they went full anime plus they had guest artists for character designs, so everyone feels out of place.
my biggest gripe is that the environments are less fun to explore thanks to them no longer being connected

Yeah the difference in character styles is jarring as fuck.

The Blade games are better then Saga and Gears.

Nah

Thanks OP, I forgot to make another /qa/ thread today asking the mods to move XC2 threads.

you're right

for what purpose?
the general made yesterday died at 66 posts, and 20+ were the OP desperately bumping it from page 10.

Then they'll get put in /trash/ where they belong.

go away autist

basically this

Waifu threads and shit like JoJo threads get moved to trash all the time, because they are always giant circlejerks by the same small community of autists that literally live for the threads, XC2 is no different.

Well this one isn't a waifufag thread, so fuck off.

Even X is better lol

I never said it was.

You laugh, but it's true.

X is literally the best Xeno game.

I really want to play X, but does CEMU run it properly now?
And goddamn, XC2 runs at like 500p 16fps sometimes

The writers aren't 'the B-team', they're the same people who worked on the other games. Just admit that they can fuck up.
>XB1
>Scenario
Tetsuya Takahashi
Yuichiro Takeda
Yurie Hattori

>XBX
>Concept
Tetsuya Takahashi
>Scenario
Yuichiro Takeda
Kazuho Hyodo
Mamoru Ohta

>XB2
>Scenario
Tetsuya Takahahsi
Yuichiro Takeda
Kazuho Hyodo
Mamoru Ohta

>Saga
Yep.

>Gears
Nah.

>writers

who cares

Xenoblade Chronicles' ending is awful.

Who do you think were the ones who decided to fill the game with a bunch of otaku bullshit?

How did your mom manage to not flush after shitting you out?

someone is butt-devistated

I honestly believe the console is cursed, all the sequels there have been shit, no exception

It was only bad for kickstarting the trend of "It was earth all along" twists in JRPGs around that time.
It didn't help that I called the twist literally 5 minutes in.

>the best part of the game is awful

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Why isn't Tora on the cover?

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Because he's on the inside of the case.

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Don't listen to the Anti-XCfag's retarded narrative.
Funny how those people never existed before XC2 """fixed""" the ending.

The contrarians were always around, they just feel emboldened to pick at Xenoblade's weak points now.

I didn't play the second one because of the first one's ending.

But I liked both endings and thought they complemented each other

XB2 is a worse game overall but all the World Tree stuff is kino

XC port to Switch fucking when?

After the X port.

>>Gears
>Nah.

lol? Gears is bad. It has VN tier cutscenes, and the plot and writing is nonsense. If your name is not Fei, Elly, Citan or maybe Bart, you were a nobody, so half the cast had shit screen time. Disc 2.

I don't remember this.

But where's best girl Morag and best boy Wulfric?

It all started in the summer of 20XX with a guy named Klaus...

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Post god tier OST

youtube.com/watch?v=MIn82wCRrHY

Morag's too much of a spoiler, maybe? It's pretty obvious that Zeke's going to join the party from the moment he shows up, but Morag's more unexpected.
Wulfric's too perfect for the cover.

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Morag was obviously going to join.

You mean to a better game? Sorry for our shit taste.

Ok lads, i'm 200+ hours in trying to pull Kos-Mos give me some love

Because you were blinded by your hatred of Xenoblade.

Xenoblade 2 has much better gameplay than 1.

How many variations of this same post can be made?

I wish she was the MC. Her design and VA are the best.

>tfw no Wulfric porn

I'm sad but also happy, he's too perfect for it to happen but he's also so damn sexy my word.

youtube.com/watch?v=Y1_WVm241G0

do you have all the ideas, luck boosting equips, legendary cores, etc? otherwise good fucking luck

honestly the most annoying think about rolling the last couple rare blades was dismissing the junk ones

been farming legendarys with launch smash combo, whats the best way to boost luck? I have max ideas and been using boosters for lightning element

Should I ignore this list as a first timer still on NG?

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I wish she had a buff or a power like EoSJ

Yes. That list is for endgame challenge mode stuff.

Yeah you can use anybody for late game bosses and stuff but it's all just sub optimal. use your favorite waifus and husbands

youtu.be/cDbh3lLi1ZY

shut the fuck up pokebarneyfag

>whats the best way to boost luck
Occasionally you get blades that boost luck instead of other stats. That's the primary one, I think. Accessories are more of the cherry on top

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>liking the first game
Big oof. It’s boring as shit

I think it's more it didn't leave much impact.

>Big oof

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If it's your first time you can use anyone.
This tier list is for super optimization for fighting superbosses and the like on NG+ with more broken shit unlocked.

youtube.com/watch?v=SZxLijQvEa4
fuck you guys I like it

I like that Nia sleeps with her legs wide open.

Xc2 is better mechanic wise though. Outside of field skills and merch missions the battle system is better, faster and with even more variety than the first game. Also Xc1 had that stupid higher level mechanic that makes higher level monsters impossible to hit unless you invest and every single stay outside of agility being pretty much worthless, skill books required to level up skills are pain, the entirety of colony 6 and the amount of exp sidequests give you making you overpowered by midgame along with timed quests. And pretty much all of this stuff was fixed in X and 2 so unless you have your nostalgia googles on Xc1 vastly inferior

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>Kazuho Hyodo

He is the source of all the "japanese humor". Can someone please fire this anime faggot.

Wider audience?

Why do you think that?

XC1 peaked too early. The game's story went downhill after Prison Island. Also, people who complain about XC2 being anime ignores the fact XC1 is way more anime trope-ish.

>XC1 is way more anime trope-ish.

lolno

Just got torna today. Should I play through Torna or use the code to play through XBC2 with new blades?

Have you beaten XC2 yet?

ideal order goes Xc2 -> Torna -> Xc2 with new blades

Yes but obviously not with any of the blades from the expansion pack code

>Xenoblade 1 was more anime than Xenoblade 2
Not sure why I see this posted so much. People need to realize that Xenoblade 1 fans don't hate the raw number of anime tropes in 2, they hate the specific tropes used.

Xenoblade 1 was tropey, sure, but it drew upon classic shonen and 90s JRPGs more than anything, and as a result the "anime moments" are mostly comprised of overdramatic (but emotionally resonant) speeches about good and evil, with an occasional cool fight scene thrown in. This was all bolstered by fantastic voice work and cutscene direction, and the end result resembles a genuine, passionate homage to an era that Takahashi has his roots in and owes his success to.

Xenoblade 2 draws far more upon modern anime in its direction, and its idea of an "anime moment" generally involves stilted slapstick or drawing attention to how sexy pyra and mythra are. To a lot of XC1 fans, this kind of thing is unappealing because it adds nothing of value to the characters and story and mostly exists to draw in the otaku crowd, which is a stark contrast to the first game's dedication to strong characterization and tight plotting. I liked XC2 a fair bit, and occasionally it does what XC1 did just as well if not better, but it's undeniably made for a different demographic, and many, me included, feel this led to a decrease in quality across the board. The game's story, world, characters, and voice acting, while certainly competent, rarely reach the heights of the first game.

And that's fair to feel
I still disagree but at least you present your points in a valid way

Xenoblade 1 just isn't as trashy as Xenoblade 2. Plain and simple.

What is there to disagree with? He's spot on.

I think the tl;dr version of this is that XB1 used tropes which largely overlap with other forms of media, whereas XB2 uses the ones found almost exclusively in anime

i'd like to add that xenoblade 2's anime fanservice tropes arent really modern in style for the most part, but i can understand why they would turn off some fans. the character designs definitely fall under the modern anime category, to the games detriment imo

Rex and Pyra look so retarded.

I disagree that it led to a decrease in quality.
The anime tropes didn't effect my enjoyment of the game at all

Can we all agree that the big point in the game is when green badass part

For all the hate anime waifu tropes get, they do seem to be pretty effective for having a dedicated fanbase.

XC2 is the best selling game in the series, and the fanbase is still going hard a year and a half later which is pretty impressive for a single player niche rpg.

>when green badass part
what

Pretty much that, but also tons of fanservice. Half of blades are basically nothing but fanservice towards specific niche, so either you do story, or sidequests - all you get is same low quality shit which doesn't really make you motivational to keep going.

I agree, but what makes me saddest is that buried underneath the trashiness is a story with some incredible elements that harken back to some of the best moments of other Xenos. The ascension out of morytha, into world tree and finally the discovery of a ruined Elysium certainly comes to mind. If the whole game was as consistent as that segment, I have no doubt it would have been just as food if not better than XC1. But there's so much clutter in the way that even with a definitive edition, I think XC2 is just fundamentally never going to be the game I want it to be.

!!!

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It's pretty easy to please retards after all. Not surprising.

Nah, biggest hype is when you get to Elysium. The game is an almost uninterrupted stream of pure kino after that

It's the same shit that happened with Fire Emblem
Like depending on how XC3 or XCX2 turns out i could see Xeno threads devolve into nothing but game shitposting

When rex gets his green mega suit

>Ctrl F Neptuniablade
>no results
Where is he?

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The people complaining and wanting to know who’s responsible in the shift in tone from the first game to the third
It’s the same guys responsible for the first game

Eh, that part didn't do anything for me. Maybe it's because I wasn't that invested in Rex or Pyra/Mythra.
Hasn't been around in a long while.

I mean this thread is all about shitting on XC2 he probably doesn't need to show up

Daily reminder that gacha is shit and that's not arguable.

As it turns out, horny teenage and undergrad otakus are fairly easy to please with fan service. It's a classic case of "what's right is not always popular and what's popular is not always right". Unfortunately, there's also a massive crowd of enablers from the same age group who don't necessarily support this shit, but have so much exposure to it that they don't care anymore and learn to look past it. I'm hoping this all changes when some of these folks grow up and develop more refined tastes.

RIP Monolith then.
They had a good run.

Yeah. I understand what they were going for but they should have made it so you could buy them in the post game.

>game goes from a tale about two warring factions in a constant cycle of revenge and the horrors of war to literally every JRPG kill god boss
No matter how cool individuals bits of it were, Zanza’s lack of characterization and development made me completely apathetic to the events of the story at that point. The arc I was invested in ended: Shulk gave up revenge and his own xenophobia after an adventure of discovery about the true value of a person

They could do a lot of things to make it perfectly normal gameplay mechanic with which no one would have any complains.
Instead they made it horrible retarded shit.

Fucking this.
nu-Yea Forums will still have gacha-shit threads though.

It did because it made Zanza/Klaus a better character and made the Klaus reveal less pointless, enhancing the themes of xenoblade 1 that were basically dropped after Egil gets killed

They wanted people to develop a special connection with their blades and make everyones experience unique. Which i think it does to an extent, I definitely feel more attached to the blades i got first. But locking story content behind rng is bad game design no matter what the reasoning is

thank you

They could still do that but better anyway. Instead we got the lowest quality gacha possible, even on mobile shit games it's made better.

i remember joking when the first reveal trailer dropped for xc2 that the reason rex looked like a megaman reject was because takahashi was making a legends fan project and elysium would be a space station with some equivalent to the master on it fuck

>better
more like someone yelling "HEY, AM I REVELANT NOW?!"
Some shitty weakwilled faggot god jesus christ
I mean sure, it make it from nobody to shitty nerd who fucked up whole planet, wow, so much better

Honestly, XB2 feels like it needed 6 months more in the oven to iron out all the QoL features and the gameplay loops and some of the polish
I liked it a ton but you can just feel the development rush and lack of experience testing on different features

And all that year of patches hardly helped either, they "fixed" huge holes with nothing but duct tape, but people ate it anyway.

The most frustrating part of XB1 for me was how it hints at Meyneth and Zanza's relationship while they were living as the Bionis and Mechonis, but only barely. They had something interesting that could've been explored there to give Zanza a bit more depth, but they didn't do anything with it.
There's so many ways they could've easily improved XB2's gacha via patches, it's insane that they never did.

Yeah I agree but at the same time it probably wouldn't have sold as well which is the wack thing to think about

You joke but that is literally better
He went from a generic malicious wannabe god that we hadn’t even met before to a person whose benign qualities were clearly mixed with his malicious ones and we see how the same type of person who wants to save people and make them better can manifest down two different paths depending on their environment and influences, which is a big theme in both Xenoblade games

Saga 3 > Gears > Blade 2 > Blade X > Torna > Saga 1 > Blade 1 > Saga 2

For Rex should I use Elma or Telos? I have Mythra and Fiora on him.

Nah, he'd been better off forgotten and irrevelant.
When you don't know something - there is some guesswork, overthinking, mystic - something.
But now you know it all and it's turns out it's worse than any guesswork period.

Elma, I believe Telos is best on Zeke

Gotcha. Should I use Telos over Zenobia then on Zeke? I have KOS-MOS and Pandoria on him.

I maintain that pwople who think XC1's themes were dropped after egil did not pay close enough attention. Fear of the unknown is one of the game's thematic lynchpins, yes, but so is the concept of fate, and how blindly subscribing to it leads to endless cycles of misunderstanding, hatred, and violence. Zanza is the apotheosis of "fate" in Xenoblade's universe; he quite literally programmed the entire timeline of his world from start to finish, leaving little room for experimentation and imagination. Shulk's choice to spare Egil was indicative of the power to meaningfully change fate, since it was the first thing he did that went against Zanza's plans; actually defeating Zanza and manifesting his own monado can almost be read as him breaking free of the constraints of the game itself, since every action Shulk took, both gameplay and story-wise, was directly influenced by Zanza. He needed to die for the game to end.

Is it worth it to go back and do the quests I skipped?

I have quite a few that I skipped for no real reason.

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Not really. Most of the quests in XB2 aren't that interesting.

Yeah T-elos is better than Zenobia, Dagas is also a good blade to have on Zeke

Most sidequests don't give you that much unless you're a completionist fag i wouldn't worry about it. If you're planning on doing NG+ though you should do any blade quests you started. At least do Ursula's

muh boobs

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these artits need to learn how to draw breasts

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You know I genuinely like XC2 better than XC1 but sometimes you guys really make me rethink my opinions

this style of drawing is absolutely disgusting

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Do you know how long ago this was? I've always wondered about that

If shitty fanbases affect your enjoyment of a game that much, you probably shouldn't be on Yea Forums.

It's from a few days before the game came out.

finally someone else that gets it

they're that way on purpose
truth

Some of the blade quests are kinda neat, but I did basically all of the others and the only one I remember is the one where you look for traveling nopon siblings searching for ingredients because of Nonono

Nia

Only good thing about 2.

>tfw can't stomach XC1 last Melia
>marathoned XC2 I was having so much fun
The first game didn't really cater to my niches as much as the second; bonus points for being as honest as it was about its inspirations, too.

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That's perfectly fine. Both games do different things well and naturally certain people will like one over the other just based on their personal taste.
Anyone who tries to shame you for that is just shitposting

Whats the art style used in XC2? Something about it very endearing. All the colors feel saturated too. Makes the world more vibrant too.

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>Dress Morag

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2 is a much better game than 1. 1 is mediocre at best and only liked because it came out when the genre was shitting the bed.

It's pretty standard anime art style
I do think the game is more saturated overall and i like that aspect a lot

I just wish I could enjoy XC1. I suppose I'd have to been there during the JRPG dearth when it released, but the constant praise it garnered made me skeptical. It's a miracle I even picked up Xenoblade 2, and it's ironic that it's the "black sheep".

>Whats the art style used in XC2
Generic.

He changed his strategy, now he bitch about how there are too many xbc2 threads and how they should be move to /vg/.

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I would hardly call it generic. No other game emulates this type of style.

Morag is lovely. I couldn't stop staring at her lips for the longest time.

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1 is liked because half the people who experienced it did so through a let's play since the game was so rare. They didn't actually play the game and see first hand how dumb agility can be

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by coming to their senses and making a good game

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Well i'd imagine everything else saito has worked on has the same sort of art style

Elaborate.

Thoughts?

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WHOA THEY BOTH HAVE BLACK HAIR

HOW GENERIC

Don't take what people say here too seriously. It's fine if you can't get into XC1, it has a lot of dated aspects that were improved on in XC2 and gets hard carried by it's story
It's the same shit with Fire Emblem. If you read the opinions of the FE fanbase you'd think Awakening was the black sheep but it's always been well loved jut not by the die hards

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I'll see how "shit" Xenoblade Chronicles 2 is after Yuzu emulator gets good enough.

The agility shit sucked, but it's nothing game-ruining.

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That doesn't prove your point at all, in fact it does the opposite and makes you look even more stupid.

The shading on the characters is completely different

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I don't get it.

oh so you're a retarthanks for clarifying

hopefully it'll be modded to increase the drop rates and kill off merc missions, then you'll get a better game by a mile.

What's the term for "almost moe, but still retaining some sense of human body proportions"? Doll-faced?

He wants Tumblr nose

>well over a year and xfags are still seething over the most successful xeno game to date

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No i wouldn't say it ruins the game at all. XC1 is an amazing game. But the agility shit did make me find XC2 to be more enjoyable

He's just being a retard, so ignore him.

Did all of the waifufags just wake up at once or something?

[citation needed]

prolly posted thread at their hugbox elsewhere

>so different

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the shading is completely different

All 3 of these games have distinct art styles.

It's great.

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They'd better get rid of this gacha shit.

OH NO NO NO NON O NO

There is plenty of SEETHING in this thread alone.

>Velvet has nostrils

Disgusting..

No I need source on your claim of 2 being the best selling game.

It takes 2 minutes of research and I'm not spoonfeeding you. If you think a Wii U game sold better then all of that seething has started to melt your brain.

Couldn't even finish Berseria. It was so fucking dull.

x-fags arent mad at xc2 for the most part t. an x-fag

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not him, but literally five seconds in google
gamingbolt.com/xenoblade-2-sales-reach-1-31-million-becomes-monolith-softs-highest-selling-game-ever

Does anybody Know the exact difficulty slider settings to recreate Bringer of Chaos in Custom difficulty? Is it just every slider set to max?

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He's autistic and can't tell different engine shading apart.

so not being able to tell faces apart is a sign of autism but what about not being able to distinguish use of shading, colors, textures, ect? Also Lora has saito nose, the eyes, the brows, the ears, the hair, it's all different. The only thing that is similar is the general shape of the face which is pretty much a given.

stupid potato

OH NO NO NO NO

X is a lot more ambitious than any of the other games. People who only really played the main story were disappointed, but the world and characters open up so much if you're the kind of person who aims to complete as many side quests as possible. Xenoblade 2 with DLC is probably the most complete package though, while X feels like the first part of Takahashi's new sci-fi space epic. Much like Xenogears is episode 5 of an unrealized series, X could be episode 2 of a new series. Episode 1 could be 30 years before when humanity made first contact and rapidly advanced, with the final battle being X's prologue. Episode 3 could be on a different planet to Mira with another surviving ship, or it could be all space battles and enemy ship infiltration and recon. Episode 4 could be the sequel to X some time later after NLA has reached completion and humanity faces an unprecedented assault. There's just so much potential.

could you not

Goes to show how desperate Switch owners are for games.

t. Switch owner

Have a better version.

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There's a middle ground between tumblr nose and not even drawing a nose. It's called drawing a fucking nose. 90% of Japanese artists are unable to do it.

As my boy Joseph said, this game is a great parody of terrible anime tropes.

Thanks

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>mobile posters

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>1550411016733m.jpg
>better version
You really like this game, huh?

how did Rex not fuck this

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>implying he didn't

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hmm

Weebs worship this tripe.

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I was baiting for this person , he ALWAYS appears whenever i post that pic.

This is actually the first time I've ever made that reply. It's just a natural reaction of any good user to phone trash

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So I jury got to Fonsett Village, and my characters are in their mid 40s. I have about 300K. Should I just blow it all on super expensive cylinders and keep salvaging for a fews hours to make loads munny?

>so everyone feels out of place.

No they don't. They literally explain why the characters look the way they do 30 minutes in

>Hey Rex! OLD Rex! I got the book you wanted! Uh? Are you asleep?

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Yes, I worship to Mythra. Nothing hotter than long blonde hair and big tittiee.

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That scene is great I don't know why people always post it like it's awful

It's just one guy who wants to get his fellow redditors here riled up.

Yeah, gold cylinders are great.

Are you looking forward for Xenoblade 3? Now all the blades are "generic" type.

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X is a weird mix of ambitious and practical. It's ambitious in that it tries to do so much new stuff but it's practical in that they deliberately let some parts just be bad to focus on everything else.

As a result a lot of the feedback they got is literally useless because it only confirmed things they knew. The story is light by design, there's a lack of it because cutscenes are expensive, the avatar is there because why bother half-assing a story when you can try more experimentation.

Meanwhile the things they actually set out to do are technologically impressive and will help their game design for years to come. Their X knowledge was invaluable on BotW, they could reuse the engine for XB2, they finally know how to make HD games etc.

>Not posting the superior swimsuit version
Weak

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These new Pokemon sure are neat!

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DON'T FORGET ME

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Yep, then get the bath tub jew gremlin.

>Expy of Tifa.
>By Nomura himself.
>Is unpopular.
That doesn't compute.

I played Torna first—why does 2 seem to suck so much in comparison? Is it because the battle system is so much worse?

Battle theme has to be Top 15 of all time.

How could I forget my favorite character, Lithra?

2's battle system is far better than Torna's when you get to the late game. It just takes a while to get the training wheels off

Reminder that those are cute girl shorts, not her actual pantsu.

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>battle system
>worse
lmao get good it's because Torna was released almost a year after XB2 and fixed a bunch of problems that people had with the main game.

That jiggling leg brace on Mythra, though.

It's not like anyone in Torna is any popular. Jin & Malos have way more going for them than their little terrorist powwow.

>manages to have a nose that doesn't disappear into a single line when facing the camera
Hopefully XCX2 realizes character designs like a mix between this and XB2 Elma/Shulk/Fiora.

Jokes aside, a very big amount of people thought this was xenoblade X2 and didn't realize it wasn't until the end.
Here is the trailer in question
>youtu.be/brmmV3g4qqo
How is this xbx2?

The face models are certainly bad enough to be it.

honestly the iffy faces were one of the things that had me wondering if it was X2 in the first place

youtu.be/WwCzuBEb0BA

You are literally insulting the 90s anime, faggot.

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>one eyed monsterhiw did Nintendo get away with this

Seeing as it was successful, you think they'll stick with this cast for more games or revamp it again?

>>manages to have a nose that doesn't disappear into a single line when facing the camera

I don't see why that is an issue. It's just how some characters were designed.

Like I give a fuck

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>reject gacha designs likes recycled gacha design
intredasting

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>Reject
What? How?

Cute

Revamp it again.

Rex is dead.

Cute!

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based malos poster

>chronicles
That said, based XB1 chads. Is the "yuh didn't play it" 2 babby here?

Nah, it's better than whatever fanfic you could have come up with. Sorry lad.

Point is not coming up with fanfic period.
Point is that usually games' plot and story is so dumb and retarded, only way it actually get people interested is when they start to meddle with things for sake of confusing things.
Look at SMT and other franchises for example. Instead Xenoblade 2 puts it all on clear plate and it's fucking boring.

>Point is not coming up with fanfic period.
>When you don't know something - there is some guesswork, overthinking, mystic - something.
Literally fanfic.

Also why are you acting like Zanza wasn't boring to begin with?

Poppi is too cute for own good.

Poppi power.

Zanza was boring, sure.
Still, Xenoblade 1 didn't reveal all cards to excessive degree. Just short clip of earth and orbital station and shit is going down, that's it.
Xenoblade 2 reveals literally everything to excessive degree and that's what makes it boring. Because you can see thru how fucking dumb all that shit is.

Am I the only one whose "fanfic" ended up being basically exactly what we got in XB2? I felt like XB1 gave you all the tools you needed to piece together what happened.

>Because you can see thru how fucking dumb all that shit is.
I saw through how dumb it was when random scientists in 1 restarted the entire universe so it was run by a space station computer. I saw nothing about 2's expansion of that stuff that made it any dumber.

I never came up with any fanfic, I just thought 'okay, some asshole in a space station blew up the earth because he wanted to play god, why are they trying to make me feel sorry for him now'.

Dev fell for the waifu bandwagon, and since it was the first game on the switch you can make sure he'll have to do it the next time because of fan demand
Only Pyra/Mythra count to the waifu bandwagon, aside from forced cuck no one gives a shit about any girl

Yes, that. I couldn't phrase that correctly.
Good story is when it gives enough clues to piece it together for a reader.
Bad story is when it just says flat out what's happened.
In 1 there could be tons of various reasons, in 2 all you got is experimental happy faggot who denied orders while being under fucking attack.

>not seeing the obvious thematic parallels between shulk and klaus aka zanza
yikes

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It definitely felt like XB2 was preaching to the choir in a lot of aspects, the 'twists' were really bad in that regard.

How the fuck does Xenoblade 2 get shit on so much for its character design but Trails of Berseria doesn't even get half as much hate? At least Rex's outfit is applicable to his job.

Cause Tales of always been anime shit.

Berseria wasn't a Nintendo game heavily featured during several directs.

>Bad story is when it just says flat out what's happened.
That sounds like a completely different issue from expanding on content from an earlier game. Otherwise, you must hate pretty much every series that has more than one installment.

>In 1 there could be tons of various reasons, in 2 all you got is experimental happy faggot who denied orders while being under fucking attack.
it's funny because 2 actually expanded on Klaus' character beyond "experimental happy." That's all he was in 1 before becoming Zanza.

>it's funny because 2 actually expanded on Klaus' character beyond "experimental happy."
ah yes, experimental happy faggot who now acts miserable and helpless faggot god who can't do shit and just cries so someone will fix more of his mess
wew

Xenoblade 2 > Xenoblade X > > > Monado

As opposed to the guy who whined that he just wanted friends when his food attacked him?

It’s sounding more and more like your problem really is that they fleshed out Zanza and made him into more than yet another “I AM A GOD” villain.

Literally me

My problem that they needed to make bad character even worse and tie shit game to first one in dumbest way possible.
It's as if (and it probably was) it was an afterthough
>shit, this game has nothing regarding Xenoblade 1
>quick, let's add that faggot scientist and some black hole to alternative universe where we can hear shulk and other faggots
>genius

Improve your writing and actually aim to make a proper Xeno game.

>how do you go from shit to shit

The only truly awful ending is X's.
XC's ending was okay and XC2's extra lore development made it retrospectively even better

>Someone humors him and makes a /vg/ thread
>Dead within hours with 14 IPs total
Reminder to always ignore Eric.

>66 posts

my sides
even the fucking experimental Yakuza thread lasted over 200 before dying

Why are Xenofags so fucking autistic? I just wanna talk about the games and lore without faggots sperging about "MUH GAYM BETTER" every fucking thread.

Welcome to every JRPG fanbase ever.

Xenofags hate every game that's not their own.

What's some lore that you'd like to talk about, user?

>lorefag
literally even worse

nah, lorefags are based

>proper discussion bad
>shitposting good

holy based

And all is right with the world. /vg/ is for shit like LoL and Starcraft generals that were clogging up the catalog 24/7. Everything else has no business there.

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Probably wanted to cash in on the otakus. The game annoyed me enough to get me to quit at chapter 4 a year ago, but I'm giving it one more try. Started over since it had been so long. Hopefully I get more out of it this time.

Yeah basically. The DQ fanbase seemed mostly chill for a while, but since DQ XI stirred up more conversations people have been desperately trying to prove that they're REAL fans by saying only III/V/VIII is good, or they're all good but XI because it's new.

>no "I need a bigger gun"
you had one job

>do sidequest
>Blades address Pandy
>she isn't even in the party yet

What quest?

Sheba

I wanna play as more aliens.

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>no reply
You disappoint me, user

People complaining about the "specific anime tropes" used in XC2 are manchildren who haven't moved on with the times. Imagine getting so triggered about "anime humor" when all it is is a desensitization to fanservice because you think the anime you watched as a kid never had it.
DRAGON BALL HAD KID GOKU PAT BULMA'S BARE PUSSY. LUNCH WASHED 12 YEAR OLD GOKU'S DICK. You know how much more lewd that is compared to half the ecchi harem these days? Just because it's not in HD doesn't mean it's less lewder.
Swimsuits and Naked Dunban were built into the game. It's real hard for me to take XC2 criticism from XC1fags seriously because all their arguments stem from MUH CUTSCENES HAVE PYRA BOOBS WAAAAH.

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>expecting any coherent writing in Xenoblade 2
game is all over the place

The problem isn't 'Pyra's tits', it's the general tone difference between XB1 and the first half of XB2.
This really isn't that hard to understand.

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>but muh dragon ball
so?
>swimsuits and naked dunban in xc1
yeah, that game also had proper equipment system which shows what you equip. And X had fashion slots.
Xenoblade 2 has only DLC costumes, most of which are recolors. And on start it got nothing, you stuck with one design for entire game.

>every single xeno game from this point on must be a standard shonen revenge plot or i will get VERY VERY MAD!

Yes, I'm sure XB2 fans won't bitch at all if XB3 ends up being the completely different from 2.

Xc1 didn't give any clues about what happened thougj
It just show some random faggot pressing a button and that is it. Xc 2 have him an actual motive without giving taking his whole "must experiment shit" and he is still the same douchebag u the end. Xc1 story wasn't good. You could make the entire game when Shulk got his first vision.

I know that you've built this amazing fantasy civil war for yourself, but you're going to end up very disappointed if you spend the next few years hyping this up.

>DRAGON BALL HAD KID GOKU PAT BULMA'S BARE PUSSY. LUNCH WASHED 12 YEAR OLD GOKU'S DICK.

What's the problem here?

My only problem with XB2 is Rex's outfit.

As many as there are burgers that don't know maths. And that's a lot.

Do I have to be one of those le self-aware weebs to not die of cringe while playing this? Seriously, even by JRPG standards this is some dogshit writing.
Also, these designs are horrific even compared to the first two XB games let alone any genuinely beautiful games

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It's literally not the content, it's the presentation. XC2 presents all the trashiest elements of itself in the forefront. Terrible outfits, waifubait character designs, obnoxious gacha mechanics. In comparison, XB1 and X armors are never naturally that lewd or obnoxious (and XB2 doesn't even have armors to begin with). The only time the comedy is as obnoxious in 1/X is in X's start of chapter running gag, which no-one defends.

You lack any notion of taste or understanding of palette. I'd be surprised if you weren't one of the morons who thought that Melia slapping Shulk is exactly the same as Mythra slapping Rex, despite everything surrounding those scenes being different. Or to put it another way, you don't understand why a black person can say "nigger" and not get a dirty look but you get a black eye for shouting it out in public.

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That'd be great? I don't know why you think I'd want more fanbase war garbage in these threads.

b a i t
suck on my fat black cock lmao

>muh dragon ball
XC1 had fanservice too. But nobody was mad about it until XC2 came along.

>presentation
Honey, the only thing XC1 did better than XC2 was coming before. I suppose this is where you deny that all Xenogames have had similar outfit aesthetic, waifubait character designs, lewd and obnoxious armors, and comedy. I do think that the gacha should have been toned down late game where it absolutely didn't matter anymore, but it's a minor complaint because it's not part of the presentation.
>taste
You just lack the skill of differentiation. XC1 is the same bullshit as XC2, merely improved.

Not him but you're a moron. A lot of those who played XC1 didn't hate XC2, so then why would you tell people they're gonna hate XC3 if it's different?

Every game has fanservice. 2 just gone thru the roof and that's why people complain.
Also after dragon ball that thing was repeated so many times - people sick of it. It's not a reference anymore, or more like it never was a reference. It's just one of generic moments now.

>Honey

fuck off

>2 SUCKS WHY DID THEY DO THIS
>Well every other Xeno game had that too
>NO THIS IS A THOUSAND TIMES WORSE CAN'T YOU SEE IT?
I like how after a year nobody has been able to substantiate this. Why is Fiora's robot ass that the game was marketed with not fanservice? Why is Juju getting smothered in his between his sister's giant bouncing tits not anime cringe?

>I suppose this is where you deny that all Xenogames have had similar outfit aesthetic, waifubait character designs, lewd and obnoxious armors, and comedy.
I would deny it, so you would provide parallels. And then I would point out in almost every instance, those elements are foregrounded in XB2 when they are deemphasized or not present in other games.

Unless you think Elma showing up in her midriff and ass exposing true outfit at the end of Chapter 12 is the same as Pyra showing up in her short-shorts, boob socks and black body mesh in the first chapter of 1. Yes, when you dig around all the games have similar elements. With 2 you don't even need to dig, it just dumps it all on your lap. That's why people are reacting.

You mean the robot ass you don't even see until 40 hours in? How the fuck are siblings hugging 'anime cringe'?

Go on, tell us you think Melia slapping Shulk is the same as Mythra slapping Rex so we can confirm you're a retard who cannot understand context or presentation.

Show me another Xeno character who looks as dumb as Rex or Pyra.

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I liked XBC1, XCX and XBC2. Unless they completely change the genre then I doubt I'll hate the third game.

nowhere near close

Doesn't count. Optional armor

Subjective opinion.

Objective. They're also completely optional armor. Not their base design.

>Go on, tell us you think Melia slapping Shulk is the same as Mythra slapping Rex so we can confirm you're a retard who cannot understand context or presentation.
And yet you can't seem to explain why the two are different. MUH CONTEXT is not a valid argument.

>improve writing

oh it's you again. Remember that calling Xenoblade by it's early name won't give your posts any more authenticity.

I've half a mind of starting a new Xenoblade X safe file. I'm in the mood for exploration and there's no RPG that does it best. Problem is that I already know Mira like the back of my hand. I wish they'd invent targeted amnesia pills already. Either that or release Xenoblade Chronicles X2.

literal fucking faggots
there is nothing wrong with appreciating tits and ass
get the fuck off my board

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Fuck off. 2 was just normal. Fanservice was never a requirement for the gameplay, unlike Naked Dunban. The only reason you niggers complain is either it's not 1, or the tits in HD are too much for you.

>I would deny it, so you would provide parallels.
Huh? You provide proof for the shit you're claiming kek.

Blades were also optional.
>Optional armor
You know how I know you haven't played XC1? Because a lot of those skimpy and/or retarded armors were a requirement for late game. There was no way in hell you were gonna wear the default armor you had in Chapter 1 and there was a big chance your armor set was mismatched as fuck.

>X armors are never naturally that lewd
The majority of female armor in X are lewd. Unless you immediately fashion gear your girls into the few conservative outfits or their defaults you find the skin pretty quickly. You'll often be forced to use inefficient gear to keep Sharla and Fiora clothed too.

>Melia slaps Shulk for being too close when she wakes up from being unconscious and is frightened. Dunban laughs. Then Melia apologizes and she and Shulk talk like rational adults

>Rex wakes up face first in Mythra's breasts. Mythra wakes up, and realizes Rex is face first in her cleavage and starts kicking up a storm. She yells at him calling him a pervert and throwing items at him. Comical music plays as this happens. Mythra eventually realizes she wandered into Rex's room and storms off, but not before calling Rex a pervert. Gramps and Dromarch discuss how Mythra is dressed like a stripper.

Things they have in common:
>a slap
>a misunderstanding
>some degree of levity

Things they don't have in common
>wacky music
>exaggerated overreactions
>throwing items at a boy
>people being called perverts
>people discussing how another character is dressed skimpily
>a reaction shot of a character face first in someone else's cleavage
>(XB1 only) characters calmly explaining their actions and apologizing like adults

XB2fags, not even once.

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>Blades were also optional.
You literally start the game with Pyra as your first Blade and she has one of the sluttiest outfits you dumb shit.

Yes, once you change a character out of their outfit into something lewder, they are indeed in something lewder. Changing a character into a swimsuit will mean they are wearing a swimsuit.

The difference is the default armor that characters start with is never as revealing or ridiculous as the default, mandatory designs of XB2 characters.

>Because a lot of those skimpy and/or retarded armors were a requirement for late game
brah my first XB1 playthrough I was a total scrub and ran Shulk-Reyn-Sharla the whole game and there was still enough margin for me to select non-retarded armors. There's high level shit that's literally just recolors of the original outfits. You won't have top-tier stuff but you don't need to

>(XB1 only) characters calmly explaining their actions and apologizing like adults
I understand that these games take a long time to play, but you really shouldn't take your entire understanding of the story from the webms blunderfag spams.

>she has one of the sluttiest outfits you dumb shit
Almost all of the male humanoid blades are sluttier than Pyra. Fuck off.

So you never played the game. Why are you here?

>Fuck off. 2 was just normal.
Just because you have low standards and enjoy every shit there is, doesn't mean it's normal.

>Almost all of the male humanoid blades are sluttier than Pyra. Fuck off.
We're talking about "Optional" designs here, retard. Which non-optional male Blades have sluttier designs than Pyra? Dromarch? Aegaeon? Wulfric? Or are you really going to stretch and say Roc? Meanwhile Mythra and Brighid also show off tons of skin.

>thinking the cringe and voice acting are anywhere near as bad in XB as it is in XB2

where is this coming from

>inb4 durr dromarch is literally naked you can't get any sluttier than that fag

>If you ignore 90% of game content, it's alright of a game guys

>So you never played the game
I'm beginning to think YOU'VE never played the game, user. Half of the armors you listed here aren't even accessible on a normal playthrough and require autistic skill tree grinding to unlock

XC2 newcomers pretending they know what they're on about.

Given how much XC2 sold, it's the new normal. Sorry if you're mad about that.

>humanoid
>mentions Dromarch, Wulfric, and Roc
HAHAHAHA
I'll drop a care package: Dagas, Godfrey, Gorg.

It sold because of this

>retards enjoy low quality shit
So basically you admit that Xenoblade 2 is now on level of Sword Art Online and similar.
Thank you.

>You literally start the game with Pyra as your first Blade and she has one of the sluttiest outfits you dumb shit.
Sharla also has a slutty outfit, if the character models were better it would stick out a lot more.
>Yes, once you change a character out of their outfit into something lewder, they are indeed in something lewder
You have to go out of your way to avoid it though. If you want to engage basically at all with the various outfits in either game you end up with lewd. It's a far fucking cry from the armors "never being that lewd", most of them are. XB2 has more, but not nearly as much as you're putting forward here.

>nobody mentioned the voice acting
You're welcome to blame the boogeyman anons.

>Half of the armors you listed here
I didn't post that, faggot.
And I can't believe you saying you just ran Shulk, Reyn, Sharla the whole game, I'm not retarded. Maybe for a first playthrough you could run Shulk and Sharla but Reyn? Yeah right.
You would also not avoid Sharla's Makna armor midgame, and ALL of Sharla's armors have a variation of exposed cleavage.

>Finished Bearing her Soul last night

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>muh optional
I love this, any time someone has problem with anything in the game, suddenly it must not ever matter because it's optional.
Gacha? Optional, you can beat game with story blades and generics!
Merc missions? Optional, if you don't like it - don't waste time with it!
Trust grinding? Optional, why would you need to level up blades if you don't like it?
And now designs - optional too! What a useful scapegoat you got there.

>listing Gacha Blades
>when the discussion is about non-optional vs optional content
Based retards.For the love of god, try following the conversation.

>452688535
>Blades were also optional (so their designs can't be taken into account)
Multiple non-optional Blades (the ones that automatically join the party and one you must use to proceed) exist, whose designs can be taken into account.

Oh and also field skills, DLC content you paid for, etc.

>tfw finished bearing her soul twice and have probably done enough of the merc missions to have finished it a third time

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Now make sure you actually open her affinity grid and fill in the nodes before starting NG+, user.

I'm literally discussing the Blades that are mandatory, though, and saying they're slutty shitty designs.

But apparently XB1's atrocious armor design is okay because they're optional?

wait wtf? that fire flamboyant guy is Rank A? doesn't he suck?

Yes, Switch owners were desperate for games after getting BotW, Splatoon 2, SMO, MK8D, in the same year. Just mingepost somewhere else and leave me alone.

>suddenly SAO out of nowhere

He has a party-wide buff that increases damage dealt by a not insignificant margin iirc, so he has his uses.

>Based retards.For the love of god, try following the conversation.
The male blades I listed were optional you fucking moron. Back to elementary with you.

>Gacha? Optional, you can beat game with story blades and generics!
>Merc missions? Optional, if you don't like it - don't waste time with it!
These are true. Though I really don't know why you wouldn't want to do merc missions. It's free trust, items, affinity grid completion and shop deeds. If you're gonna be playing the game anyway might as well have some merc missions going on in the background

>Trust grinding? Optional, why would you need to level up blades if you don't like it?
Game gives you more than enough trust to level up your main party. If you want to branch out and use other Blades, spamming pouch items doesn't take much time, or you could, y'know, send your Blades on the merc missions you somehow don't want to do for some reason?

Reyn...
Touch my chest...

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Obviously. We're looking at expert gamurs here who never branched out of their starting armors from Colony 9 to Zanza.

>Trust grinding? Optional, why would you need to level up blades if you don't like it?
youtube.com/watch?v=ejphbuziUcc

BotW is the only note-worthy game mentioned and that was a fucking port.

>muh mawios

lmao

Consolewarring, how cute.
Mingepost somewhere else kiddo. Yer dun.

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It's a waste of time, but looking at it objectively, now I know that the usual detractors in XC2 threads are just consolewarring shitposters and not people who actually played the game.

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>posting facts
>Consolewarring

u wot

They fixed that via fashion, also you see it lessen part of the game, and constantly change it
instead of ENTIRE game
but hey, keep acting like a retard
Cause merc missions are constant distraction from gameplay? Because they give hardly anything? Trust is easier to level via just pouch item shit spam, even easier than shitty sidequest dlc love potion.
>Game gives you more than enough trust to level up your main party.
Ah yes, just use starting "equipment" and don't dare to use anything game gives you, that the only way to have fun in this piece of shit of a game
Ah yes, 8 character trust leveling is as hard as few dozen of blades with hidden trust levels to boost damage.
In 2 during fight you get absolutely minimal amount of trust, while in 1 it's pretty decent. Majority of that trust in 1 you can get from heart to heart, 2 gives you miserable amount.
But hey, keep those false equialent shit going, as if you played both games.

Yes, and it's armor. Not the base outfit. They also still don't look as retards as Pyra or Rex's default outfits.

>odyssey and splatoon 2 not notable
>facts

>out of no where
You said it yourself - selling a lot is a new norm, so Xenoblade 2 is basically same as SAO and any other huge seller.
Good try on backpedal tho.

Odyssey was mediocre, and Splatoon is for children.

>symbol says enemy's weakness is Earth
>Gramps says it's lightning

what

>They also still don't look as retards as Pyra or Rex's default outfits.
This is blatantly wrong. The XB1 armors look awful, especially if you're forced to mix and match.

Don't worry, spent all those merc missions maxing everyone else. Wont forget this merc bitch.
10 minute merc missions, the fuck were they thinking?

The symbol indicates the element the enemy IS, not what it's weak to.

Well fuck me..

>They fixed that via fashion,
XB1 doesn't have fashion.
>also you see it lessen part of the game, and constantly change it
Yeah, you constantly change it into more retarded designs unless you're constantly willing to sacrifice stats for aesthetics.

He's saying that the enemy's element is now lightning. That's reflected by its weakness becoming earth.
Other way around.

Aside from the obvious blunderfag spam, it's really mostly Xfags. We'll probably be stuck with them forever.

...

You not liking them doesn't mean they weren't huge for the system.

They're still nowhere near as bad as Rex's gayboy diving shorts or Pyra's non-existent shorts and visible g-string.

>develop more refined tastes
More like develop a thinner skin

They fixed in next game.
And then come 2 and degraded it to level worse than 1.
And you defend that.
>Yeah, you constantly change it into more retarded designs unless you're constantly willing to sacrifice stats for aesthetics.
at least you change stuff. Instead of one costume for all game. Or 1.5 if to include story changes. Or 2.75 if to include DLC.
What a tradeoff

Rex has the most retarded JRPG outfit next to that pizza-cutter kid. XB2 is still a great game though.

Nah.

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Still more thought was put into those designs than into Xenoblade 2 main characters.

i was on the verge of getting this game, but Dunkey convinced me not to.

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I'm not a fan of XB2's designs, but you'd have to be delusional to think that.

Nah, not really. Each of those suits have design language of particular type. One is machina related, other is Entia. Third techincally forest village aka nopons.
Perfectly fit into the world. Like or dislike, it had a reason to exist that way. (Arguably one of the reason people like Xenoblade 1 cause it had quite unusual designs)
Xenoblade 2 designs? Okay let's just make cute girl with that important part on the hips where part of the suit goes into the soft fat of the ass and big boobs.

Those look nowhere near as bad as Pyra. Hell, even the NPC wearing the pink thong outside her short shorts in FFXII didn't look as dumb as Pyra.

>This entire thread
He was right all along.

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What thought was put into any of those designs? Rex's outfit at least serves a function, being his diving gear with the heavier parts taken off when he's walking around. I don't like it, but these are just random bullshit slapped on with a vague theme.

>Perfectly fit into the world.
Okay, yeah, you're delusional.

>he lets youtubers decide things for him

lmao

>thinking Rex's outfit makes sense

fucking lmao

>Rex's outfit at least serves a function, being his diving gear with the heavier parts taken off when he's walking around
lol
So you just going to make it that rest of the world doesn't exist, got it.
You fuckers are retareded beyond help

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>his last words are pleading for god to answer him
I fucking loved how broken 2's villains were.

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Don't forget the swimsuits you could wear in XB1 that would in some cases have more armor rating than full body armor.

I said it has a function in mind. What purpose does any of that shit plastered over Sharla serve?

They look like generic MMO outfits, but still don't look at stupid as Pyra.

Function my ass, those huge leggings combined with his tight shorts are beyond retarded.

They all look equally stupid to me. You're just delusional to think 1 isn't as retarded in it's costume design as 2.

How do I get into the first game? I got to the part where I met a sniper chick or something, and got too bored to continue after yet another tutorial started.

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>people actually defending this

big yikes

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if they had any real courage they would have given rex a bulge

its almost like the guy who made the game was trying to make a lighthearted xeno game

oh wait that's exactly what he wanted to do you bunch of fat retarded gorilla niggers

This is baffling to me, how are those complete messes better than Pyra in any way?

Turn your brain off. Like any other jrpg.

>complaining about tutorials
>in XB1
this series is unfortunately not for you

Don't worry, someday when you're old enough to post on Yea Forums you'll realise that "I don't like it" and "This is badly designed" are two very different things.

That literally is the function. I said I don't like how it looks, but you can't say there wasn't more thought put into it than the XB1 armors.

Well he's a retard who clearly doesn't know how to make interesting games.

Why does 2 look worse than X?

I want to play it but the art style and character designs throw me off so fucking hard.

Because it's from a game they like, so they feel compelled to defend it.

Isn't it just his diving gear without some parts? Personally they should have just had option to have him wear full suit.

You guys seem to be missing the part where they're optional/missable outfits and not the base design to make the character look as slutty as possible.

Everyone knows that. Doesn't make them good designs.

Doesn't make them anywhere near as dumb as Pyra's either. Pyra just looks beyond stupid. They should've just stuck with Mythra.

The argument was that they look better than Rex and Pyra, which I disagree with. The base designs don't really matter when you're actually playing the game and not arguing on an imageboard, because they disappear about an hour after you get the character.

They do look better than Rex. By a million miles. Rex is the second worst design I've ever come across. Even in his space outfit he still has the stupid fucking shorts on.

What exactly is it about Pyra's outfit that makes it so much worse to you? They're equally awful to me.

I think they do look better. Nothing looks dumber than Rex is shirts and Smough leggings from. Dark Souls.

>shirts

shorts*

Please constructively criticise the design. What is wrong with it?

Her oversized Valkyre Chronicles tier tits, and non-existent shorts.

I honestly don't get what's so egregious about Rex's shorts that make it look worse than the worst of these. The helmets alone make me hate some of this stuff more.

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His shorts on those huge leggings just annoys me to no end. The helmet at least has gramps in it

>best looking girl
>nobody talks about her

WHY

I don't get why so many people prefer Mythra's clothes. At least Pyra's tiny shorts mean she isn't fucking flashing her panties in every other cutscene.
Probably because even the writers didn't care about her.

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Also the fact he's a manlet.

>Xenoblade 2 draws far more upon modern anime in its direction
Nope

yeah she's only flashing that dumb gstring

short dress > flat ass hanging out short shorta

He's a kid, you eejit

You have to understand that there's no real criticism here. They hate Rex because he's not an epic action hero that they can self-insert in, not because there's anything wrong with his design.

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>actually enjoys about playing as a painfully generic JRPG boy
>actually likes his stupid outfit

jesus christ sort your life out

>guy brings up mandatory story blades
>respond to him with gacha Blades
It's pretty obvious what he was talking about when he compared Dromarch, Roc and Wulfric to Pyra and Brighid.

But all the hate is towards his outfit, what are you on about?

>waifu threads
>JoJo threads
XC2 discussion
Is it that hard?

Just another reason he's a shit protagonist.

>They hate Rex because he's not an epic action hero that they can self-insert in
You say this as if pathetic self-pity riddled teen boys who end up with a harem or giant robot aren't the De facto self insert bait.

Rex is painfully average and never really grows in a meaningful way that isn't punctuated by a shonen power up moment, but that's far less offensive than his shitty design with huge clunky boots and crotch window.

Let's not all forget..
aaaaaaaaiiiiggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh- yah x3

>Eyika saying that the voice acting in 2 is an insult to XC

Is he right?

Stop bumping your autistic false-flagging thread.

OPs can't bump threads.

Stop giving him a reason to then.

worse u mean

There's a penis size chart in this

>crotch window

what faggot thought this was good design

Rex and Pyra are both fine from the waist up.

Agreed. Her tits are fine. I've seen dumber. (VC)

I agree completely. The problem with 2's anime tropes is:
1. It's shallow crap that's in every moeshit anime ever. I had almost forgotten how cringe the anime tropes are in the game until I got to the part in Torna with the catboy being terrified of Mythra's bad cooking. Everything about Tora epitomizes this.
2. It fucks up the tone and pacing of the story completely. I read somewhere that they had the main writer and another one known for writing moeshit writing alternate chapters. It makes sense when you look at Chapters 2 and 4 which are dedicated to nonsensical anime cringe that has nothing to do with the overall plot. Notice how both chapters revolve around Tora and Poppi. There's a theme here.

I can actually relate to the characters in 1 somewhat because their personalities aren't based on shallow tropes, unlike Mythra being bad at cooking and her getting mad at everyone if they mention it. Compare this to say Dunban who follows the trope of 'the old master who is surpassed by his student'. His character actually fits into the overall plot of the game since he once used the Monado but Shulk manages to surpass him in his skill at using it (because of his connection to Zanza). Meanwhile Mythra being bad at cooking has nothing to do with anything and is just there for the sake of 'LOL my waifu is so cute and kawaii when she gets mad xD'

>Hating Ch4
why? the mecha satire was hilarious

>I read somewhere that they had the main writer and another one known for writing moeshit writing alternate chapters.
Not exactly. The scriptwriter for the even chapters was Yuichiro Takeda (who claims he's 'infatuated' with the Nopon and said chapter 4 was his favorite), the odd chapters were Kazuho Hyodo, and Takahashi worked on the overall story. Hyodo's chapters are the ones generally considered 'superior', but he's fairly new to the series, while Takeda's been working with Monolithsoft since the Xenosaga anime.

What is to be done about the eternal ((nopon)) menace?

Worst level design and the entire story is just filler. I still get confused trying to traverse the Old Factory and Mor Ardain itself is basically the sewer level of the game. Again, everything about Tora and Poppi epitomizes what's wrong with the plot of this game. The whole plot of the game could happen with Tora and all his segments cut out and it would all still make complete sense. Now you could argue that Riki in the first game is the same, but I would argue that:
1. Riki's segment is relatively short and is at least helped by the fact that it's mainly focussed on building Melia's character. Meanwhile I have to go through an entire chapter of crap for Tora's segment (as well as the stuff in Gormott to help him build Poppi.)
2. Riki has as little prominence in the story as his character needs to have. He's much needed light comic relief that doesn't have too much presence in cutscenes, but when he does it's in a genuinely lovable and cute manner. Tora meanwhile is just an obnoxious shit who wants you to run around for him and I find his entire segment of following in his Father's footsteps of making the perfect waifu robot really fucking stupid and pandering to a specific demographic (NEETs who obsess over waifus)

Chapter 4 was one of the few things I liked about this game and I agree.
It was nothing but a filler. Pretty fanservice filler, but filler nontheless.
>hey, remember, we like mecha here guys!
yeah, that's nice and all. too bad that managed to get my hopes up, but turns out nothing really is resulted from that chapter.
They didn't even include 3rd Hana form into story, making it a shitty school fanservice sidequest. That was huge ass letdown.
I thought there will be some serious shit and upgrade happening at world tree. but wow that place was one of the most dissappointing end game parts I've seen in videogame.

>They didn't even include 3rd Hana form into story, making it a shitty school fanservice sidequest. That was huge ass letdown.
This was one of the best decisions they made. Poppi's later forms were shit, the story surrounding them was shit, and incorporating the third one into the story would've just forced more stupid nopon bullshit into the plot.

Yep, they were complete and utter shit. So in retrospective it was a good desicion.
Otherwise I wouldn't even bother to finish this piece of crap, probably dropped it right there.

No.

He's right.

No.

No, you fight Poppi!