Remember this before criticising games!

More like NPCs

It just makes me want to critisise and insult games even more

Remember: neo-nazi are people too

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Heart and soul is the real loot.

I guess their best wasn't good enough

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These people don't get paid more for producing a better selling game, these people get paid a monthly wage regardless of effort put in. Most have no motivation to put in anymore than the bare minimum.

>commies
>people
pick one

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"heart and soul" is a motivator not an ingredient. You can passionately try and make a cake out of shit but it'll still be shit.

Tfw i am in this photo

If I think they produced a piece of shit, it doesn't necessarily mean I think they themselves are pieces of shit. But this mealy-mouthed attempt to cut off criticism before it starts is a good argument for reconsidering that second point.

bloated and untalented
i was already redpilled in the n64 era when a good game can be made by only 10-20 people

Austin office?
I worked at Dun and Bradstreet in the same building.

>commies
>Texas
Pick one

I really don't think this was anyone's best effort

dont care

clearly you've never been to Austin

Aren't these the talentless fucks that waste more time screeching at social media than at game developing?

Here's the real question, do you think anybody in these companies making the decisions (obviously we have to exclude the retarded grunts and artists who just do what they're told) are going to reflect that their ideas fucking suck?

Like that's a feeling most people don't often get in their lives, the actual feedback that all their work is fucking dogshit. Sure, there are circumstances where you've made something good yet still caught shit for it, but here, inevitably, they have NOT made anything even containing the shavings of a masterpiece. The reviewers say it's shit, the influencers say it's shit, and the market says it's shit.

I can't imagine what morale is like. I can't imagine what it is like going to work for those people. Not the grunts, but I mean the managers who made all these shit decisions.

fpbp

>feeling bad for people who already got paid
lmao, what a fucking cuck

No, Edmonton

Most of the time not really. You had the one director getting fired for telling people not to buy BF5 but that was about it

>heart and soul into this game
>believing EA employees still have a soul

>ANTHEM BAD!
>APEX LEGENDS GOOD!

Austin is the California of Texas retard and every Texan hates Austin.

white people confirmed for shit at making video games

Too bad there are managers only looking forward to the bonus

>subsidiary of EA
They are unironically subhumans to me.
Couldn't care less what's of them.

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Conveniently, Edmonton is the Vancouver of Alberta and the rest of Alberta hates them

So regardless of what you did there even if you were a janitor or secretary, was there any inkling that anybody in a leadership position could take their heads out of their own asses to hear any opinions that may have warned them their shit was going to be dead on arrival?

Because Anthem couldn't be good even if they got another two years on it because all the work we see right now is simply bad and couldn't be good unless it was overhauled entirely. Seriously, you'd have to rewrite and re-voice-act every single line in the game; there is nearly not a single package or set of assets that could be "patched" to be appealing.

There aren't even fucking waifus. EVEN if they decided to inject waifus into the game they would still be saying the most mediocre lines on the planet. There are 12 pieces of porn for this game. TWELVE. Do you know how fucking hard you have to fuck up to have no more than three people draw porn of your shit? There is no fucking greater measure of failure if on the day of release you can't even find three fucking people who would want to fuck your characters.

>please, praise because I did my best
Why are white people so sheltered?

AND IT SUCKED! Tells you all you need to know about them.

>all those white males

Wow racist much Bioware?

The way AAA developers get payed nowadays doesn't require them to put real effort in.

I love how they go from not caring about the consumer whatsoever by downgrading their game terribly from the E3 demo to expecting us to care about the creators.

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>remember, we are trying to emotionally manipulate you by looking up to you!

>gaming in the west
>past 2004
No one to blame but yourself.

Real people cooked my meal at the restaurant I ate at tonight too. Should I have not complained that what they served me tasted like shit?

>These people don't get paid more for producing a better selling game
Wrong.

This DESU.
If someone loves making vidya they would join some smaller studio or go full retard and make game by themself.
Working for corp like EA where you are striped of your creativity just to get paid sounds like bad deal.

Fuck off, Reddit

You don't ever leave your basement, user. Stop pretending.

>make shit game, game doesn't sell cause it's shit
oh no boo hoo we have feelings

Real people make almost everything. What's the alleged point here?

a lot of people try their best, but that does not make their best any less insufficient.

I do have some sympathy, since game developers in general are paid much less than what they could get at practically any other computer-related profession. You don't get into the industry unless you like it or at least think it's cool. That's about as far as my sympathy extends, however. Poor work is still poor work. I have no doubt that Anthem had a dev cycle similar to Andromeda, where literal years of time and funding were wasted chasing dragons and the final product was released sloppily at the last minute like a college student writing a 15-page term paper the night before it's due.

that many people and they couldn't design a decent fucking game
sad

>all those WHITE people
I'm glad they are all going to lose their jobs!

>make a shit product
>get called a shit developer
>WONT'T SOMEONE PLEASE THINK OF ALL THOSE PEOPLE!

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>you should think of others before you criticize something

I prefer unbiased unfiltered criticism thanks. As all journalism, news, and works should be.

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>Women
>People

Damn. You enjoy being a game developer?

>resorting to begging
It’s bad isn’t it? I mean why else are they trying to garner the pity of gamers. “Buy our game guys or else something bad might happen to us :(“

I could pour my heart and soul for 15 years into learning how to play the 1812 Overture with my farts, but that doesn't mean people are required to like it or pay money to see it.

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No, he's right actually. These people are salaried workers who get paid their due wages regardless.

Then what's Houston

I don't praise failure. If a bridge collapsed you wouldn't say, "They poured their heart and soul into the bridge, don't insult the builders."

they made shit why should we care?

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"Real people" who can't handle being told that IQ is genetic, that Womens' rights were a mistake, and that the Holocaust is fake shit to get victim points for a group that were the CAUSE of WWII rather than the victims.
Nah, these aren't real people. These are NPCs. Fuck 'em.

It was

They have like 5 trannies working there and each one (1) tranny is worth at least 7 normal people of color so they're good.

Epic post. Upvoted and redpilled.

This fine fellow knows what's up

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>Every Texan hates Austin
Spoken like a true non Texan. No one actually hates Austin. The only reason that gets passed around is because all the alcoholic retards out in West Texas that go out of their way to justify their hate for UT Longhorns being better than the Texas Tech Red Raiders.

>haha we're actually all far left liberals who elect sheriffs that refuse to enforce the law down here in Texas, Beto 2020!

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You're a fucking retard and probably don't even live in the US, much less Texas. Kill yourself.

They should learn to code.... Seriously, that's like... their job.

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>Austin is the California of Texas
In that it's among the only prosperous bits of that shit state, yes.

What? No we don't.

t. Albertan. Everyone likes Edmonton.

>yeah all those oil fields you hear about that continue to prosper and grow that us smart liberals claim will run out next year for sure don't exist, the only reason Texas is good at all is Austin!

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Who are you quoting? Especially about the sheriff not enforcing laws. Which if you're referencing Gov Abbott claiming he wasn't enforcing ICE laws then you're absolutely false.
You got me with those hot opinions. Wanna make any more bets that you'd lose on?

>soul

>By the numbers looter-shooter with terrible presentation and performance
>Heart and soul
Yeah okay sure.

Ain't that funny, 'cause I didn't think a single passionate person worked on Anthem. In fact, I've done up and already forgot that it even came out.

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>he
Travis County Sheriff was a fat dyke who refused to assist ICE and Texas Legislature had to pass SB4 to threaten to put her in jail. You are literally making shit up and don't know what you're talking about

just because some dude painted a campbell soup can doesn't mean I'm not allowed to shit on it for being dumb

And here we have a textbook example of dev team bloat

>liking redmonton

Go vote for the dippers you oil hating commie

Wouldn't it be crazy if there was some kind of profit-sharing bonus applied to the success of the game and the better the game sold the more money you got on top of your salary?

Remember, instead of saying, "Damn, Bioware made a shit game!" you should be saying, "Damn, Steve Jones did a terrible job on these animations." or "Jessie Davis wrote some awful dialogue." or "Ted Armstrong should be fired for hiring such untalented workers."

Game companies don't do that anymore

If your heart and soul was poured into a shit game, wouldn't that mean that the devs are shit people?

>Travis County Sheriff was a fat dyke
Lol what?
tcsheriff.org/departments/command-staff/priddy
That doesn't look at all like a fat dyke to me
>refused to assist ICE and Tx Leg had to pass SB4
That literally never happened.
politifact.com/texas/statements/2017/mar/01/greg-abbott/greg-abbott-falsely-says-travis-county-not-enforci/

You're confusing him with the, hopefully soon to be kicked out, Police Chief of Dallas Tx as well as El Paso County objection to SB4 that got shot down.

That's all good, but how do you make money in between

They sure put a lot of heart and soul into making a Destiny clone with even less soul than that extremely soulless game.

Bioware sure outdid themselves this time!

I'm from GP though

I love how much denial people are in. They keep claiming that because its a "games as a service" that Bioware will continually fix the game through updates.

I don't give a damn. They're not my friends, they're not my coworkers.
They're making a product for me to buy with my hard earned cash. if that product isn't worth my salary, I won't buy it.
Companies aren't your friends.

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fpbp

the fact that they're employing 200+ people to make a shit game is big buisness at its worse.

>Sheriff
Hold up, wrong link.
tcsheriff.org/departments/command-staff#Hernandez
Still not a fat dyke

This. Fire all your white workers and higher all blacks and mexicans.

You ever find it strange how video game publishers try to make it out like not buying this game is the worst thing you could do but every other industry just doesn't seem to be like this?

>look at all these people that worked on this game
>please don't criticize it :(((((((

this

I would sugest watching some speaches of people who started their own companies. All of them started with developing their games as side project and didn't leave their job for long time.
And it's not like you have to be game dev for the rest of your days. Some people do like the guy who is making Avernum.

you can be a decent person and still suck at your job. tying the two together like this is the fastest way to want to kill yourself.

fp always bp

>business are now entitled to your money
Welcome to socialist America folks

based and redpilled fp

What a bunch of dipshits. Learn to code faggots your ship is sinking.

Gaming always tries to be seen as this more niche thing that tries to foster more of a dev/player connection, unlike say a movie where you don't care what the second cameraman thinks about anything.Likely due to the whole nerd culture.
That mentality obviously doesn't hold up as well when we're talking about a multi-billion dollar company.

even the greatest devs can turn out a terrible product if the management and business practices are poor

they shouldn't take personal offense

Wow corporate products are so real and important to our lives

>meanwhile in industries that actually matter to the stability of a country and employ enough people to actually matter

Yet these fucks are crying about criticism while working in entertainment and act like CDPR laying off 6 people is a travesty.

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Speaking of layoffs, what's up with all these mass layoffs lately? I dont follow news much.

Too much winning.

>Spoken like a true non Texan.
Dallas, Austin, and Houston are the cancer cells that are slowly killing a once based as fuck state
Fuck you stupid assholes from cali, you ruin your own state then spread like a fucking virus to other states

A lot of american companies just released their financials for the last three months, which means either they lost money and need to cut costs to please investors, or they didnt make enough money and need to cut costs to please investors

corporate greed. Blizz gave a new executive a 15 million dollar bonus then fired 800 people. Remember they are also letting a chinese developer make Diablo mobile game.

I see, thanks for the explanation

>Game companies report highest profits in gaming history.
>Everyone rejoices.
>Game companies announce mass lay-off
>Everyone asks why.
>Game companies collectively shrug.

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Don't forget
>They made shitton of money but they can get even more by cutting costs.
Moral? Investors are never pleased.

>Moral? Investors are never pleased.

Made one dollar less than last year yet profits are still extremely high? It's considered a loss

People are ok with this

I do, and every time I wonder how QA can allow for such mediocrity, and such bugginess to get put out. All those people and no one saw how fucked the game ran on nvidia hardware? No one saw those loading time issues (evne on ssd)? No one saw the crashes?
Several HUNDRED people and no one realized? That makes it even more fucking pathetic. What a shitheap, they should all be fired for incompetence.

As someone that is in their last week at a dysfunctional workplace, I can tell you right now that the answer is no.

When you have management and executives that far up their own asses, they surround themselves with two types of people. People that tell them what they want to hear and people that will do whatever they are told. Eventually, the people that can critically think and want to make things better are pushed out regardless of the quality of their work or ideas. They are simply seen as not being team players and replaced with somebody new that management believes will be either a doormat or a sycophant. Eventually, all you have are dipshits with huge egos making horrible products in a vain attempt to sate their egomania. This is why you will see companies make seemingly very very obvious blunders in terms of product management, project management, customer service, and public relations.

>He doesn't hate Austin, he must be from Cali
Except I'm from Jacksboro you fucking moron and currently live in Waco
>Austin, Houston and Dallas are ruining blah blah blah
I used to be on that opinion train until I stopped being some kneejerk reactionary to everything and realized how fucking stupid it was to blame the same 3 or 4 cities for issues that aren't there. Notice how Beto lost, LTC is statewide and covers concealed/unconcealed, no one is even thinking about going after private sales, Texas is becoming the next silicon valley, Texas Unis are constantly popping up in best College lists, and Oil exports make us a fuck ton of money and now we're about to be the kings of Wind Energy. Seemingly those cities can't stop the large amounts of progress we made. Maybe it's almost like you see one shitty thing (Dallas PD chief being a fucking moron and underfunding her department while caring only about PR, UT President letting those anti-carry morons go crazy on campus) and try and attribute it to the whole state so you can just be angry about nothing

Start lining up at the unemployment office.

they still did a shitty job

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Companies think they can grow exponentially without every slowing down. If you made 5 billion last year and 6 billion this year, this is meant to be a bad thing because you should've made 10 billion.
In other words, fuck investors. They're never pleased and very literally only care about money.

Mexico City

I thought it said bioware autism on the right. Not much difference i guess.

Have you ever worked on a product? The developers definitely knew about all those bugs. Do you seriously think they were just like "fuck it"? Its the executives who need more square footage on their yachts that don't allow the devs the resources/time to fix those bugs. Remember in school when you needed to turn in an assignment but didn't have enough time to fully finish so you just submitted anyways hoping for the best? That's exactly the position they are in.

That might be true. I have also worked with incompetent developers that simply don't properly test things and miss extremely obvious bugs.

If that was their heart and soul, I don't envy their lives.
With all seriousness though, Anthem is a fun shooter with core mechanics done right. Combos, the movement, the visuals - it all add up to a surprisingly enjoyable experience. However everything else in the game is really fucking bad. Atrocious UI, constant menu navigating, pants-on-head retarded quest progression system, shit dialogues and story, placeholder crafting system and that's not counting all the technical issues like bugs, shitty netcode, constant crashes and loading screens.

I wish they'd just let go of their former identity and focus purely on shooting and flying. Just drop all the pseudo-rpg bullshit, people, you fucking suck at it and everybody knows it

As someone who works in (non-game) development, you usually find bugs, but management won't let you spend time ironing them out properly because of deadlines and budget reasons. So unless it's a bug you can fix within a very short span of time, it's likely getting shipped without a fix.

>Do you seriously think they were just like "fuck it"

That's obviously what happened. They had 6 years to fix most of the bugs, you don't get to say you didn't have enough time to do a job right when you get 6 fucking years to do it.

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also remember devs in games get paid way below average and are worked to the bone already. They have zero incentive to fix any bugs nor are they allowed to usually

big based thinking here dudes.

>ban people for exploiting your terrible code for ez loot in a game with no pvp

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have you literally ever worked in a professional environment? Employees do not get to choose what they work on. They are told and if they don't listen they are fired.

>didn't have enough time to fully finish
no, I never had that issue because I did my fucking work and paced myself to complete it WELL before due date.
eat a cock, corporate shill. These negligent faggots released a shitheap and should (and probably will) all be fired because of it. If the game is truly a labour of love they wouldn't have put it out in such a sorry state.

Imagine your heart and soul being so shitty all it produces is a bad loot shooter that barely works.

LITERALLY YOU GUYS!
LITERALLY!
Have you LITERALLY ever worked in a "professional" environment!

Seriously though, of you're the kind of person that gets shit on at work and doesn't stand up for yourself you deserve every single bit of it.
Don't roll around in feces then complain about the smell.

>corporate shill.
did you even read the post entirely? I'm literally against the corporations.

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You're defending the corporation's proxy workers you stupid ponce

And the game they ended up making is shit.
Perhaps they should've used their fucking brains instead, that way the game would at the very least run better.

What's next, tipping the devs after buying the game?

You're the type of person that starts yelling at the cashier when your coupon doesn't work huh?

Fucking roasted

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underrated

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The reality is that there are deadlines and financial limitations in game development and they are often decided by people far removed from the actual dev process. I don't blame any of the individual programmers or artists at Bioware for the bad decisions made by EA. The worst thing that ever happened to modern gaming is patching because now publishers will force a game before it's even close to completion and tell you to fix it later.

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Why is gaming the only industry where the publishers and developers insult the customers when the customers complain the product is shit?

>do anything in your life
>there are real people who poured their heart to help make your experience possible
>SERVICE IS SHIT MINUS FIVE STARS
>get applauded by all boomers

why do videogames get a pass with this shit?

Don't you have a phone?
You aren't their customers investors are

Because boomers don't like videogames. Duh.

The tragedy of this is that EA has shitcanned studios for far less failures than BioWare is responsible for.

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I'd trade bioware for westwood all day every day

This is objectively false.
>Make shit game
>It flops
>You no longer have a job
And boom, you're getting paid less.

You don't get a participation award. Being a nice and hard-working person doesn't guarantee success in any market

FPBP

>p-please buy Anthem, they need to eat
Fuck you.

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>we'll never get a modern day sequel to something like Burnout Takedown ever again

it hurts

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capitalists aren't real people.

Austin is an alright place to visit, and the big music scene draws in artists I like that would usually never come to Texas. Honestly Houston is the only city I've ever shit on in real life.

holy shit this. i can't code anything with another single person involved and fucking things up

how do 200 cooks collaborate on a broth

What are you a communist? Want to give out your game for free? If you don't want me to shit on your game, don't charge $60. Just because people put their heart and soul in a game doesn't mean it's automatically good and it doesn't mean they don't deserve criticism. Stop acting like a bunch of pussies.

this, it's so funny to see that despite game development having a steep learning curve that mentally skewed people still comprise most of the industry. If they just had one lead designer that had good taste they'd make a good game but that has never happened.

A lot of tech companies didn't do too well in Q3 and Q4 last year, and honestly it looks like EA and Activision will have a shit Q1 as well.

>create the art of criticism and inflict strangehold on the arts using this method
>internet created
>SHUT IT DOWN

You sound like the guy who gets shitcanned in 2 months because he acts like an entitled dickhead to his boss.

Anyway I seriously doubt that Bioware wanted to work on a loot shooter of all things. They have no experience working on strictly shooters and no experience doing coop games.

Because all majors in the biz for the quick cash-grab, and fuck you for potentially disturbing the normies who's more than happy to pay top dollar for clearly inferior product with your whining. Who gives a damn about the product being shit?

Investor / stakeholders happiness is the only thing that matters. As long as the return is fine, they won't pull their investment and everybody's getting money together. If you don't contribute tot he process, you're useless and should fuck off.

Everyones getting laid off for automation, no one is safe

FPBP

You know what really fucking sucks? We never got a Terminator game that looks like the first person sections from Terminator.