"Fuck Gamefreak, why is Pokémon always the same? I want open world, I want new things"
Shut up, retards. A series being close to its roots is only positive. It's better to have the same games expanded that ruin everything with something nobody likes and nobody truly wanted MHW and BotW are only the last cases of "reboots" destroying a franchise
Monster Hunter World isn't shit at its levels because it has no loading screens. Loading Screens was a shit part of the older games. Monster Hunter World is shit because the loading screens got replaced with fucking corridors and hallways instead of actual open map design.
Jose Sanders
I played 4 MH games before World and I liked it. I'm glad it's more accessible. Stay mad.
Hunter Peterson
>botw >destroying If anything it revitalized my interest in the series. Go fuck yourself.
Brayden Rodriguez
>MHW and BotW are only the last cases of "reboots" destroying a franchise No but it’s funny that you delude yourself if you think that’s the case
Jayden Reyes
have you played pokemon before???
Luis Rogers
LMAO shut the fuck up, nincel
Elijah Cooper
He's saying BotW is bad, user.
Nolan Mitchell
>He thinks MHW and BotW ruined the franchises I get this is bait but come on OP
MHW is the best selling monster hunter ever and has a 90% on metacritic, didn’t exactly destroy the franchise. Stop staying stuck in the past for nostalgia
Shut up retards You perfectly know I don't mean in term of sales, since sales are meaningless I'm talking about the spirit and soul of the series, which those two games murdered
Tyler Ward
>Capcom helped improved MHW even though it has issues >Regardless big that it’s been considered the best in the series >BOTW Changes how Zelda games are and was all around great especially in the Temples Imagine being this much of a contrarian
Aaron Gray
>Which they murdered Nice bait >BUT MUH SOUL both had soul you dumbass
Josiah Perez
BotW is closer to the series' roots than any other 3D Zelda game, you fucking idiot. Did you even play the original?
That you say that about MHW just tells me you didn't even play it.
Yes, I too lament the loss of having to sit through dozens of loading screens per mission in MH Not the mention the tragedy that was my first playthrough of BotW, one of my fondest experiences in video games What the fuck are you talking about
Caleb Phillips
I don't want the game to be open world. I want the routes to have places to explore and not a straight line like the 3DS games. It's possible to have a linear game where you can actually explore, as unthinkable as that may sound.
Angel Campbell
I finished Zelda1 recently. Its a game that makes you spend 90% of the time inside of dungeons bombing walls.
OoT is way more like Zelda1 than BOTW is. BOTW is a generic open world Ubisoft game but with good gameplay.
Hunter Bell
And if it's not the mustache version I'll be mad.
Carson Cruz
Imagine seriously defending Game Freak's lazyness and incompetence.
Angel Taylor
bait
Xavier Anderson
>Loading Screens was a shit part of the older games No it wasn't, asshat. It caused some issues if your retarded teammates hanged out by the exits.
Sebastian Ward
you're the type of person who thinks doggy style is adventurous. these reebots literally saved/reinvigorated their franchise
Colton King
>Its a game that makes you spend 90% of the time inside of dungeons bombing walls soul,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
game is rudimentary as hell, but a good first attempt. ALTTP expanded on every single aspect INCLUDING the muh exploration part retards claim is missing in that.
Oliver Carter
>MHW and BotW are only the last cases of "reboots" destroying a franchise >I'm talking about the spirit and soul of the series, which those two games murdered lmao fuck off retard, those games brought the series to new heights and popularity.
Lucas Cruz
If there is anything that I learned about the MH community then it is that they are huge nostalgia fags. World is better on every front except 3 things. older games had more armor sets and skills to play with, Mantles were a mistake and the trickling of content is really bad and most of it is le crossover content.
Imagine trying to act like some sort of videogames patrician while defending fucking pokemon of all things. You used waterpistol on a fire enemy, man such amazing gameplay deserves to be preserved and rehashed every fucking year for the next 60 years right?
Colton Howard
lmao
Logan Russell
there are probably more things that the older games might have done better but right now, the old ones that I am playing or telling me one thing and that is that I am so fucking glad that I started with World and that it is going to be the future of the series.
Isaiah Green
>muh soul >muy spirit oh wait, he's not pretending to be retarded!
You’re legitimately dumb if you think Capcom will miss the opportunity especially after all the feedback they’ve gotten
Dominic Flores
thats nice that you want a way shittier game. sucks for actual fans though.
Andrew Morales
BotW is as close to the series roots as possible. They literally used The Legend of Zelda NES as their main inspiration for the game, which is similarly open worlded.
MHW is indeed a casualized butchering.
Landon Perry
>G-Rank edition fixed stuff in old games >but it won't tally happen for the title which sold 3 times as much
capcom got rewarded for making a fucking garbage bastardization of a beloved franchise. they wont change shit. I expect them to double down on all issues. more temporal mantles, more timed shit, more boring tempered faggotry, more trash monsters.
Ayden Baker
>Actual fans So the ones who bought World and still like it
Austin Allen
yeah the crossover content is fucking great at least MHW got Final Fantasy with an actual new monster as a crossover we never got that before and Witcher 3 cossover with A WITCHER BOSS but remember >no anime crossover yet >trash
>MHW is casual >it's as hard or harder than old HR games ???
Jackson Jenkins
Grank versions didnt fix much in the past. Balance sure, but never big gameplay changes.
yeah I love trashy mmo fights that are nothing like actual hunts when the game is missing actual hunting content. great idea. 10/10, would sell out again.
Alexander Collins
At it's core people fucking hate RPGs and resent the fact that Pokemon is still one. You can see it in how half the suggestions try to make it more like Skyrim or BOTW.
Owen Williams
>capcom got rewarded for making a fucking garbage bastardization of a beloved franchise So they got rewarded for making the best entry in the series? Jee no wonder at this point I wouldn’t be surprised if you posted that giant ass list
Colton Morales
bad shitpost.
Jason Bell
>Grank versions didnt fix much in the past. Balance sure, but never big gameplay changes. But content and monster/ability balance is exactly what MHW needs
Nathan Campbell
Imagine being so fucking ass mad that a series wanted to do something for a change and people liked that it was good and go full contrarian mode when it turns out it’s good
Evan Cruz
it needs that but not only that.
Kevin Reyes
What does it need other than that which is not minor stuff? The only other thing I can think of is weapon design
Robert Garcia
Prove you have monster hunter world and/or Botw you nigger. Take a pic,i bet you didn't even bought any of those games, and you better timestamp PROVE IT FAGGOT
I've played since the original. World is step in the right direction despite the flaws it has. I'm not interested in going back loading screens, people being cowards and leaving the zone to heal, monsters hanging outside the zone boundary and wasting your time, and the armor skill system that was more of a pain to work with than it was worth.
Jaxson Hall
>MHW and BotW are only the last cases of "reboots" destroying a franchise >Destroying >When it ups the series Only on Yea Forums will I find dumbasses like you Worlds only issue is Monster Roster, Weapon design variation, and Monster Attack variation the rest are just fucking nitpicks
Gavin Hill
you havent.
Matthew Rivera
Yes, we need more exact same games in a series with more exact same games available already, that anyone will ever play.
Grayson Allen
>you havent. And you expect to be taken seriously with that sort of rebuttal? Get fucked.
something that limit items because right now they are infinite thanks to the box in camp. a way better lobby and matchmaking system. completely different scaling for multi/single player because right now it makes single way too easy and 2man why bother tier. no fucking mantles that make you invincible for a fucklong time. maps that dont make you spend 90% of the hunt running around. a completely different armor set system because right now you can get infinite white sharpness AND 100% affinity AND defensive skills in a fucking HR game making you stronger than Grank hunters in previous games. no retarded time gated horseshit or gacha gold dragon garbage.
those things are all objectively fucked in this game. monster roster is actually less of a problem than the things I mentioned but still a big one.
Justin Jenkins
I dont care about your shitposting man.
Carter Rivera
Is the MH series worth playing if you don't have any friends? Co-op looks like it plays a big role.
Henry Myers
I just wanted a gameplay overhaul honestly You just know they will still use the same 4 move slot shit where you literally win everytime by just using a super effective move against its type It's literally the exact same shit ever since Red and Blue, how the fuck has people been digesting this series for so long is beyond me
Chase Gonzalez
>color = soul I guess the Transformers movies have more soul than every B/W film combined
Juan Morales
Don’t expect reasoning from anyone on Yea Forums it’s the same shit that’s posted in every MH thread especially when they’re just the minority when it comes to world
Hudson Clark
It is it really isn’t no different from the older titles
Jaxon Butler
>something that limit items because right now they are infinite thanks to the box in camp. >no fucking mantles that make you invincible for a fucklong time. >a completely different armor set system because right now you can get infinite white sharpness AND 100% affinity AND defensive skills in a fucking HR game making you stronger than Grank hunters in previous games. This is all literally contained in "balance". Just make the monsters strong and dangerous enough and you're okay >maps that dont make you spend 90% of the hunt running around. Oh come the fuck on, maps are not that big. >completely different scaling for multi/single player because right now it makes single way too easy and 2man why bother tier. Iceborne will be multiplayer-only oriented like DLCs, so who cares >a way better lobby and matchmaking system. Only decent point >no retarded time gated horseshit or gacha gold dragon garbage. Annoying, but saying this is worse than roster is fucking retarded
Matthew Allen
they started adding shitty MMO fights that require a whole team and you will not be able to clear them with randoms.
Daniel Taylor
>It's better to have the same games expanded >implying that game freak has been "expanding" the games instead of removing features and content
taking 30 seconds to move from one end of map to another, using what is effectively fast travel >>>>>>>>>>>>> 10 minutes crawling through empty, drab tunnels
Jace Powell
You can literally Solo all the monsters though
Landon Evans
>BotW is closer to the series' roots than any other 3D Zelda game why do zoomers repeat this myth? botw is a complete break from the series' roots. the old zelda games actually had dungeons. botw drops everything that made zelda unique in favor of becoming yet another aaa open world adventure game.
Michael Martin
Are you complaining about the actual Final Fantasy 14 boss or what
Matthew Reyes
>I'm a REAL fan!
pathetic
David Cook
>the most successful entries ever in their respective franchises are responsible for destroying said franchises that's a real big think. Anyway, pokemon is shit and you have a containment board for a reason.
Luis Ortiz
>MMO Nice buzzword you can literally Solo Behemoth and Extreme Behomoth and And the Witcher Bosses are not hard to do
Cooper Williams
There are solo proofs for ancient leshen?
Zachary Bennett
>literal tank and heal mechanic garbage fight from a mmo >buzzword fuck off retard
Joshua Gray
>>G-Rank edition fixed stuff in old games Except it almost never happened, G rank edition exacerbate more the problems than it fixes them, hell it can even bring new ones. G rank editions are for new contents not fixes and you should already know it by now.
Colton Brooks
you think anyone that would bitch about it can get gud enough to solo a jaggi?
Jace Morris
Because it's fucking true, you moron? Even the devs said they took a lot of inspirations from THE FIRST GAME
Brody Garcia
I guess there's no casual MH games then.
Jack Jackson
>Actually thinking most people even go by those rules You really are dumb
Anthony Baker
why would a worldbabb know about that?
Nicholas Phillips
How dare they take a monster from a different series and make it fight like it would in its home game for authenticity.
Easton Martin
fuck off retard
Elijah Phillips
yeah how dare they add some faggy gimmick fight when the game is in dire need of actual MH encounters? gotta make those crossover shekels.
Have you ever actually played a Monster Hunter game that isn't World? The loading screens are never more than a second. It takes more than a second to move through the corridor areas in World. These loading screens save time. Unless you're argument is "muh seamless world" you're just wrong
Michael Jones
You know that Iceborne is going to be a full expansion of MH fights? Right?
Carson Howard
The adverse effect MHW has had is kind of hilarious because if you just make a MHW2 that cranks the monster gallery and difficulty ranks, it's the logical next step for the series.
Colton Long
>TWO collab monsters >TWO oh what a travesty, it's not as if they've been working on a complete expansion and this is just to keep people busy until it releases or anything like that
Carter Rivera
nice, finally some monsters, and it only took two fucking years
two monsters in world is a huge fucking percentage of the overall content, especially when they make up a huge chunk of the shitty endgame. I wonder why you even expect proper content when world delivered so little and in such a shitty way.
Jason Lee
It's okay when Monster Hunter does it
Thomas White
>nice, finally some monsters, and it only took two fucking years So... like every other G-Rank expansion?
Also, why are you so mad about the crossovers? The Behemoth is unironically a great fight and the Ancient Leshen is at least decent
Nathan Edwards
just dropping by to remind you all that review scores and sales do not mean a game is good BoTW is trash MHW is trash Pokemon is trash your favorite game is trash fuck you all and go die in a fire
Logan Thompson
>destroying a franchise
That's a funny way of saying revitalize
Tyler Price
actually, they said they took inspiration from ubishit games like far cry. botw is closer to far cry 2 than it is to any prior zelda game.
I'm mad about shitty gimmick crossovers because they arent proper MH fights. The base game didnt deliver shit and all their promised content post launch was shit so far. Behemoth isnt even good, its like a slow Rajang with downs.
Andrew Sanders
>opinions Cool I guess
Jack Jones
>two monsters in world is a huge fucking percentage of the overall content they make up 5% of the total large monster count, you fucking dumbass
Isaiah Peterson
yeah if you count every shitty recolor as its own monster.
Anthony Richardson
So there's one butthurt OP samefagging for his defence. Move along. Show me your AL/Extremoth kill proof, oh wait, you're probably so fucking bad you didn't manage it.
Aaron Richardson
then gen 1 has no monsters at all beyond rathalos and velocidrome
Ryan Scott
any retard that think world is anything but average is either a blind MH fanboy or "series veteran since FU" that played 90% of the series online asking for help.
Matthew Allen
gen1 is trash
David Sanders
they always lie. world has ridiculous amounts of downtime. its extra bad if you play on the ps4.
Brody James
but the majority of people praising it are new to the series
Zachary Davis
[Needs Ciatation]
Aaron Moore
but at least there were some good ideas in both mhw and botw even if those new ideas came with new problems. the new pokemon is just the same bland game
Levi Wilson
check reviews and sales
Xavier Wright
>No source So it’s a lie then
Luke Clark
12 million cope
Josiah Cook
Didn't World sell more than any other MH game? At least in the West I'm pretty sure it did. The majority of people who played it in general are new to the series
Luke Garcia
452626321 >Still no proof
Juan Jenkins
nincels really can't take a hint, can they your tablet is never getting another MH game no matter how much you complain online
play with random. If you play on ps4 80% of the time there will be a jap to carry you.
Aaron Morales
No the loading screens were moved to loading the entire area for 30-40 seconds.
Christian Walker
But everyone can play them. No one only owns one console. Right? They're both even on PC.
James Thomas
botw is a single player game. MHW is the worst MH game that shits all over the multiplayer aspects of it and it has no content so of course there's no discussion about it. What would you discuss? the current mobage tier weekly AT elder event?
Sebastian Peterson
Whatever you need to tell yourself to justifying buying a yearly game that changes less than CoD. At least you still got that nostalgia running strong, right?
Dylan Fisher
play on PC instead where you have 5 second load times
Wyatt Jackson
>No one only owns one console. Right? user, I...
Colton Watson
Sounds like wishful thinking.
Nathaniel Hernandez
>FU Jesus at least say 4U, or hell even 3U if you are hyper eager to sound like some veteran nostalgia fag. FU has aged horribly, when was the last time you played it?
Nathan Wood
it's fact
Noah Bailey
MHW is godlike though and after iceborne will be in contention for best in the series.
Owen Long
no, it is you who is retarded, I just provided an argument which you have no way to respond properly
Ian Adams
>t. muh hit boxes Adapt shitters
Parker Ramirez
QED
Camden Fisher
I have adapted, and the rest of the world has too, we've moved on while you're stuck with nothing but nostalgia
Julian Russell
Except world sold like hotcakes, it's the best selling title in the series, it's biggest issues are even just the result of being the first title utilizing not just a ton of new tech, but also a bunch of new game mechanics, as a result it lacks some content variance like monsters and weapon design and junk, but that will all only get improved on going forward. World is definitively the future of the series.
Nathan Murphy
Pokemon's roots are fucking garbage. The very first game was already outdated mechanically when it came out. If Pokemon had MH levels of enemy interaction and combat depth, nobody would complain.
Let's wait and see, and not get ahead of ourselves.
Kevin Rogers
That's not adapting, that's settling for mediocrity.
Landon King
that would be what you do
Jack Ortiz
At least with Monster Hunter Capcom said that they wont abandon actual fans and make games like the old ones again.
With Pokemon it feels like its stuck in its MHWorldified shit state forever.
Chase Adams
see
Thomas Johnson
>HURRR THIS REBOOT KILLED THIS FRANCHISE >moved millions of units >introduced millions of new players >assured the series will survive for years to come
I fucking hate Yea Forums contrarians.
Carter Green
>no u
Sebastian Brooks
your shitposting is weak, sonyafrican.
Lucas Wright
Its bad because it was a "generic ubisoft open world game" rather than a generic third person action "rpg"?
Charles Garcia
correct, FU is nothing but mediocrity in roster, weapon movesets, map selection, hitboxes, armor design, and pretty much everything else, World is better than it in every single way possible
try again nincel, I'm an actual idort who's able to play the games instead of just shitpost about them
Thomas Reed
Pokemon is shit anyways, only manchildren and retards still play it. It's a low tier RPG for literal children.
Joseph Nelson
dungeon puzzle action games like Zelda are absolutely not common. shitty ubisoft open world games come out monthly.
stop shitposting sonyafrican.
Ian Howard
cope
Robert Myers
I've been playing since the original, which is not only the most unforgiving grind, but hands down the most difficult game in the series, I loved it, it was fun, that doesn't mean that the ridiculous hit boxes weren't ridiculous, and that improving on them is a bad thing. I play the fuck out of all the MH games (except tri, because fuck Tri) shit kid I played freedom 2 and FU in Japanese as portable 2 and 2G before they ever hit the states, I get the love for them, but I also am not stupid enough to think that 3U, 4U, and beyond haven't massively improved on the series, don't be that hipster retard, no one likes that hipster retard, and no one thinks your cool....well except you....
Leo Harris
>people being cowards and leaving the zone to heal >Can literally do the same in World and you're even less punished the seamless areas are good period no need to bring to retarded argument, there more problems with the areas themselves than them being seamless > monsters hanging outside the zone boundary Monster can still sit their ass in corridors > the armor skill system that was more of a pain to work with than it was worth lel the skill system was perfectly good and barely needed changes, maybe some to prevent the skill bloat and abusing the hidden skills >a pain to work with than it was worth You must be joking
Neither of the series OP mentioned were even remotely close to dying by the time they got their reboots. Monster Hunter in particular was more popular than ever.
Charles Gray
1 was easy as shit, you could headlock every single monster in the game with 0 problems, you haven't actually played the game if you think it was difficult, World is by far the hardest entry in the entire series
Anthony Gonzalez
>Been over a year >best selling MH >DLC already announced (which is already another positive note, DLC instead rebuying the game) How exactly are we ahead of ourselves here? We have waited and seen. We are now just waiting for the cycle of improving on the core to continue like it always does with MH.
Michael Mitchell
Too bad GF doesn't know the definition of the word "expanded". For every new feature they add four old ones are removed.
>Natures virtually unchanged for nearly 20 years >IVs virtually unchanged for nearly 20 years >EVs virtually unchanged for nearly 20 years, beyond occasionally introducing new ways to get them >All of these things go almost entirely unexplained in the games and require extensive study of online resources to even understand >These game mechanics are featured heavily in fucking Gacha games designed to appeal to gambling addicts, yet here they are in a single player RPG for zero purpose >Megas essentially forgotten about in Gen 7, practically nothing added to them despite the fact that they were the core of Gen 6 >Features like contests, the battle tower, the world tournament, following Pokemon, visible Pokemon in grass, the Pokeathlon, safari zone, etc. constantly removed, re-added and bastardized from game to game with no actually improvement to be seen
People hate Gamefreak because they only have one good idea for every 6 bad ones, and they tend to only keep the bad while removing the good. They haven't actually done anything incredible since gen 2 with multiple regions. Everything since then has just been more of the same shit with a couple things added or removed here or there.
Levi Jackson
Fortnite is the most popular, highest-grossing game in the world RN so it's a better game than MH #MHWLogic
Hunter Walker
>1 was easy as shit, you could headlock every single monster in the game with 0 problems, you haven't actually played the game if you think it was difficult, World is by far the hardest entry in the entire series
you had me up until the last clause, then I realized you were just shitposting and you haven't played MH1 because the hitboxes alone make the game immensely harder than the eternally-forgiving MHW And that's not even mentioning MHF, which I'm sure you'll handwave away
Noah Cook
and now you can wait some more, because you have to wait until autumn
Jackson Martinez
shitty MMOs don't count, and the hitboxes literally didn't matter in 1 because as soon as you encountered anything you could stunlock it to death, you didn't need to worry about hitboxes because you would never get hit
Logan Brooks
>Headlocking I mean I guess if you were a shitters playing with shitters, me and the people I played with just laughed at people like you, and number wise it was way more difficult then any game since, High rank was basically G rank, the best armor in the game still barely gave you any defense, armor effects were purely set based so you couldn't mix match to make whatever you wanted and shit. YOU clearly haven't played the original if you think it was easy and just googled it and saw something about headlocking, I'm definitely willing to bet you haven't played many of the other games either if you are unironically calling world the most difficult game.
Levi Evans
>MHE and BotW ruined thheir franchises haha so it was elaborate bait all along. Then again can ypu really trust the taste of an adult that plays pokemon..?
BOTW is the most westernized zelda by a huge margin. Not a bad game, but also not a zelda game.
Isaac Cox
Eh, I already stopped playing, I ran through world fast, because it has a lack of content problem, because of all the reasons I already mentioned, I have plenty of other games to play right now
Josiah Watson
I've played and imported every game since the first, I doubt you've played it since you're calling it difficult in the slightest, MH has never been difficult, it was always a casual game aimed at kids, the only challenge in the series so far has come from World
Adam Nguyen
>"MHW and BotW are only the last cases of "reboots" destroying a franchise Holy shit you're retarded
I played MH1 on release and it was widely considered a hard game. You could maybe find gamefaqs posts from the time confirming that. Not him btw.
Connor Richardson
You got me, I have been fully baited and memed, I'll give you one more (You) for fooling me, I should have seen it sooner, well played.
Parker Nelson
you're trying too hard, nobody believes you
Hudson Butler
if you were a child at the time and didn't have full control over your bodily functions, sure it was hard, but literally anyone with an IQ over 80 would consider it easy
Wyatt Walker
the armor system really only needed a better UI and thats it. its still pretty a pretty bad UI in world but better at least.
Robert Myers
>World is by far the hardest entry in the entire series LMAO
Kayden Myers
your extremoth proofs?
Ryan Foster
The fact that the challenge comes from the enemies instead of fighting with controller clunk means the game will always be easy mode in the eyes of Nincels
Blake Lewis
ex crown proofs right now
Gabriel Williams
ignoring OPs bait. I will repeat what I said in the other thread. The reason they don't change it is because the formula works. every generation there is a new crop of children experiancing pokemon for the first time. For them it is a brand new experiance, so why reinvent the wheel? the problem is you for playing the same childrens game over and over. move on user.
Cooper Roberts
Why would people talk so confidently about shit they barely know?
Juan Davis
they gotta defend their precious first MH game.
Dylan Gray
I'm not the one claiming a shitty handheld game is the hardest in the series, are you actually saying that XX of all things is hard? how about ancient leshen at least? surely you can do that
Josiah Baker
everybody knows that the handheld MHs are the hardest (after frontier) also imagine playing on the piss4
Daniel Cox
imagine thinking that a MH game where you can just drink as many max potions in a hunt as you want is hard
Blake Flores
so you haven't actually played World then thanks for confirming nincel
Jaxson Howard
I guess it's the same for everyone, at least they can be consider as real mh fans, haha
Thomas Lee
its on PC you dumb sonyafrican spastic
Samuel Ramirez
then surely you have proofs that you've actually done content that was released on pc like behemoth, right?
John Cooper
IYO
Ayden James
sure
Josiah Jenkins
imagine being this disconected
Daniel Flores
everybody with a brain has that opinion you retarded phonefaggot
Jonathan Lopez
Do you see how in MH1 the levels are perfectly flat open arenas, whereas in MHW the terrain is incredibly varied with lots of obstacles and vertical combat? Do you see how in the new Pokemon level design is still annoyingly stiff corridor sequences with the same obstacles present in Red and Blue version? This is what's known as improving on a formula, and what's known as phoning it in. Why bother transitioning the game to 3D if the gameplay isn't going to take place in 3 dimensions?
Adrian Lee
the terrain changes are literally the worst thing about MHW. nothing better than the monster falling over and clipping through the floor so you cant attack its head.
MH4 started this bad trend. World made it super retarded.
Kayden Garcia
>Even stuff like DQ You do realize it's still turn-based right?
Mason Perry
I guarantee you carted a fuckload assuming you even played it.
Sebastian Myers
Not really. From gen 1 to gen 4 the systems were refined a lot. In gen 1 you didn't even have special defence and up to gen 3 physical/special moves were determined only by the type. From gen 4 onwards though it's been more or less the same with some new bells and whistles.
Matthew Gomez
prime worldshitter in full effect
Ethan Young
MH1 had interesting terrain it was around gen3 everything turned into small arenas.
Andrew Allen
nah
Easton Perry
>MHW and BotW are only the last cases of "reboots" destroying a franchise But those are both good though. "Old good new bad" isn't really a strong argument.
Grayson Wilson
I would. grinding simulators are fucking shit
Justin Williams
ah yes, the interesting and varied terrains of Swamp and Forest & Hills, the pinnacle of map design
Just between us boys, did you? Play it I mean. Old jungle was dense foliage. I'll never forget my first kutku charging me out of the foliage. Nearly shit myself.
Aiden Taylor
swamp had some poison areas and the really cool wheat field. the colors are drab but it absolutely had things going on for it.
maps in 3 are fine. it has like the best desert map by far. well its fine except for the areas that got fucked by water like flooded forest. even the neutered 3rd version without water felt shitty.
Robert Lewis
I've played the game more than you have, never had trouble with it or the other games in the series other than post-game World where there's actual challenge
Eli Wilson
I don't believe you played the entire series without carting until world. I've played every generation and carted my fair share. I think world is a great game and will be one of the best post iceborne. But I still don't believe you. Feel free to post screenshots if you want.
Jace Nguyen
I didn't say that I never carted, I never carted a "fuckload" or anywhere near it, and I don't have any screenshots because I play games on native hardware, you're just obviously unskilled or played the games as a child if you carted anywhere near a "fuckload" on games before World
Charles Foster
>A series being close to its roots is only positive. This is unironically true. If you want to do something different, make a new IP, I don't want to buy a chair just to discover you decided to make something entirely different.
Isaiah Harris
Maybe we have different definitions of a fuckload then. If you didn't consider MH1 at all hard than what games do you consider hard? I play shit like dmc and ninja gaiden on the hardest difficulties and while it's not that hard I still woudln't consider it easy. Endgame shit can easily oneshot you.
Caleb Ortiz
Imagine Iwata being dead and not being able to fund all your contractually-exclusive Nintendo MH games anymore.
Close to the philosophy of the roots isn't the same as execution. DMC is a better series for having added styles and weapon switching.
Asher Baker
stop replying to him. he shits up all MH threads with his same horseshit.
Andrew Evans
things like shmups and kiazo hacks are hard, I can count on my hands how many times I've carted in each MH game which I can't count the number of times I've died while going through games like DDP BL and Boshi, enemies have never been able to one-shot you outside of World unless you're not eating or wearing appropriate armor so you're acting a bit disingenuous there seething nincels need to stay away from big boy discussion
Ethan Wilson
G rank strong attacks can kill you in rank 9 armour in like most of the series in one or two hits.
Not the same, you're intended to die repeatedly on those platformer games and schmups are also a genre with plenty of lives and continues. You're comparing apples and oranges and just lowered my opinion of you drastically.
Jason Phillips
>"Fuck Gamefreak, why is Pokémon always the same? I want open world, I want new things" well, it's because pokemon is an turn-based RPG while MH always called for heavy improvisational gameplay
Brody Martin
Contrarians like you belong on a cross.
Cameron Phillips
no they can't kill you in one hit even in G rank with appropriate armor in any game outside of World and you must have mental deficiencies if you can't compare the two, you have an infinite number of lives and continues in MH as well, both rely on reactions and learning patterns and not "dying repeatedly", and none of the games you or I mentioned are permadeath games
Jace Adams
If you didn't like it in the first place, then fuck off to ubisoft or whatever.
Benjamin Thompson
What's this nincel meme when the Best Monster Hunters where Playstation 2 and PSP exclusives? World is trash and Nintendo MH is just as bad.
Jaxon Johnson
I agree with you. Killing series to copy the most popular trend is asinine. Just start a new one.
David Stewart
i mean, if it were infinite, then we wouldn't only have three attempts(downs) to finish a mission
Jonathan Green
>Imagine thinking a new MH game could ever be the best game in the series when the whole series is literally summarized by "one step forward two step backward". Please don't be this guy.
The time loss is much higher in monhun generally. In a mario hack you lose like a minute if you die and they're intended to have you die repeatedly to learn it. It's trial and error. Of course you die more to trial and error.
I've been one shotted plenty of times in appropriate (not maxed but appropriate) armour.
Jaxson Rogers
>shitty hitboxes >difficulty
Charles Jones
A series really shouldn’t be close to its roots when it’s roots are shit and dated. Pokémon is a good example of this.
Brody Rivera
Instead of about 5 loading screens of 2 seconds you have one that takes almost a minute. Fuck World.
Grayson Thompson
the only people who complain about World are the ones who only played it on nintendo systems, this is widely known, falseflagger
you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about, I'm thinking that you're just a shitposter fishing as well
>I've been one shotted plenty of times in appropriate (not maxed but appropriate) armour. no you haven't, if you have appropriate armor and eat, it's impossible
Samuel Moore
>appeasing the lowest common denominator is now considered saving a franchise
Colton Kelly
I can tell you just let your teammates do all the work for you so you can collect loot KEK
Hudson Moore
>I love stagnant games series
Jacob Howard
>I love the homogenization of all video games
Caleb Davis
the MH series wasn't stagnant, Frontier is definition of stagnation.
Alexander Reed
I didn't even touch 4th gen games becuase they where all on the DS and still think World is trash compared to gens 1-3.
>It's better for a series to stay the same after 20 years >Nobody truly wanted or liked the concept of a open world Pokémon game >Will deffend shitty graphics that were clearly not meant for the Switch, but for the 3DS People like you are the reason why we'll NEVER get a decent Pokémon game. Game Freak knows that whatever they throw at us, retarded autistic kids like you will suck the pot jizz off. Before, I'd give Game Freak a bone because they were working with the limitations of handheld consoles. But there is no excuse for the shit we are getting now. Pokémon is one of the most (if not THE most) profitable franchises in gaming. Demanding a decent quality to their games is not asking too much. We've seen what the Switch can do. We've seen it deal with textures, open world games and even animu cel shading. What we've seen in that trailer looks like a PS2 game. People should be up in arms right now.
Jordan Young
This is probably the most retarded argument I've seen today. No surprise though coming from Yea Forums
He is not baiting. /vp/ autists are out of their containment board. I'm talking about literally autist basement dwellers who hate any significant change or improvement in Pokémon games.
Adam Jones
>be bingbingwahoo >play the same games over and over >Mario with white hat lol, Mario with brown hat lol, Zelda is a kid lol, Zelda is a teen lol >be mad when something changes
World really needs Savage Jho to up the anty because standard Jho ain't doing it.
>MHW and BotW are only the last cases of "reboots" destroying a franchise Said no one ever. They just did things different and in some cases for better or for worse. Still prefer the older games to World though, the latter isn't quite there yet for obvious reasons.
Leshen and Behemoth are doable solo, the bigger question is do you have the patience to even bother. Granted I still haven't fought stronger Leshen yet, but I'd still rather deal with it than Behemoth alone.
Adam Perry
I ain't reading all this but i have to say i am now mad at World cause my first Rathian fight and a fucking Cactuar (what are they even doing here) killed her!
Easton Bailey
A reminder that if you think MHGU is any better than World, you're a fucking retard. GU is the definition of casualised moreso than World
Gabriel Adams
Haven’t played world yet, but I fucking loved gu. Oils and double notes are brilliant and it’s a shame they’re gone.
Gavin Williams
You're the retard for having that opinion.
Luke Murphy
>shitting on Forest and Hills I started with Tri and I'd still say Gen 2 had better maps. Jungle coming back for GU was a god send for me.
It's almost like the industry is driven by iteration
Luis Lee
Why?
Brayden Scott
This. BotW's success means that Zelda will from now on be generic open-world trash. The only hope is that in future games they decide to essentially mash it together BotW with classic Zelda design elements to make for a dense world, but I doubt it will happen.
Joshua Lee
>those 3 fucking aspies in every MH thread that want every fight to be a carbon copy of FU where you fight the seventh recolor of rathalos in a completely barren circle and ruin every thread because they can't take that theseries has moved on since then I swear you have to have mega autism to care about this series like that. These are the niggers that complained about SLOPES in mh4. Remember that shit? SLOPES set these idiots off
as long as monsters continue to clip through the terrain when they do literally anything slopes will be shit
Luke Howard
World has more get out of jail free cards while Generations Ultimate has arts and styles that can break the game. The latter game has more monsters, better maps, and better armor and weapon design; also I enjoy styles and arts because I get to be as grounded (Guild no arts) or as stupid (Valor) as I want at any given time.
I haven't played world yet, but you see people killing shit sub 3 minuntes like all the time. That's God Eater levels of quick kill ez mode. Even with all its anime bullshit, G/GU kills generally don't take that long.
Jason Watson
What's your problem? World's fun, the monster quality is weak and so are the maps. Gameplay can be whatever it wants as long as those two categories check out far as I'm concerned. I started with Tri then went backwards to Freedom Unite for those exact reasons. So until World's monster and map quality substantially improve, I'll be sticking with the past games. Besides I have almost 300 hours in World, I've done everything I care to do and there's no reason for me to stick around at all.