So let me get this straight. Nier Automata is a spinoff of Nier which is a Spinoff of Drakengard 1, which has NOTHING TO DO with Drakengard 2 or 3, and is based on the "wtf is this crazy shit" ending of Drakengard 1 where they come into modern day Earth and get shot down by Japanese Air Force.which creates some super pandemic disease that they solve by separating people's souls from their bodies fast forward 1000 years to Nier everything is medieval and now there's a completely different super disease that they have to cure by reuniting bodies and souls but they can't do it because reasons, shit happens and the ending of the game is the main character deleting your save file and his own existence to save a tranny which turns out to be stupid because humanity goes extinct because Yoko Taro reasons and the androids that were built to take care of them get depressed because they have no purpose so they pretend humanity still exists and then Aliens who build their own robots that kill THEM off and now human robots and alien robots are in a war and the big secret is their entire reason for existence is made up
I heard the Drakengard games were terrible to play they just had a crazy story, which is why I didn't play them.
Isaiah Jackson
>Nier Automata is a spinoff of Nier No, it's a sequel to NieR.
>Drakengard 1, which has NOTHING TO DO with Drakengard 2 or 3, Wrong. DoD2 is a "what if" sequel to one of D1's endings, and DoD3 is its prequel.
Every single game is connected.
Stop "hearing" things and just play them.
Charles Bailey
it's the sequel to nier if nier had never existed,so it's more of a spinoff.
Jason Scott
>it's the sequel to nier if nier had never existed No, it is a literal fucking direct sequel to NieR, where NieR existed. Shows that you've not played either one of the games.
Kayden Ortiz
>it's the sequel to nier if nier had never existed Huh?
Charles Campbell
so you read bunch of wikis and made a flawed summary of things you have no idea of. why didnt you just play the games and figure it out that way?
Mason Lewis
Not quite. Drakengard 3 is the prequel to Drakengard 1 which has multiple endings. One ending leads to Drakengard 2, another ending leads to Nier, and Nier Automata is a sequel to that.
Isaiah Cooper
Events from Nier are directly mentioned.
Aiden Green
Imagine how terrible the Dynasty Warriors games are, now imagine that but 5 times worse. That's the Drakengard games. They're trash and the only noticeable part of them is the E ending in 1. That's literally it. Yea Forums Just loves to gush about Drakengard because it's a relatively unknown dead series.
>You like Nier: Automata? Well I liked Nier back when it was a terrible video game!
No one remembers Drakengard because Drakengard fuckin' sucks.
None of the games are really spin-offs. Nier continues out of one of the Drakengard 1 endings while. Nier Automata is a direct sequel to Nier from a timeline standpoint.
Jayden Phillips
the ending is Nier giving up his existence right? and if he never existed, then the events didn't take place.
Alexander Anderson
>expecting ADHD zoomers to "play" games this is exactly the reason they love remakes and reboots.
And then there's this faggot...
Nathan Foster
We need a collection just to have a version of DoD3 with all DLC included and that has a decent framerate.
Ryan Gomez
I think that user means the ending in Nier where Nier literally doesn't exist anymore.
Caleb Price
>the ending is Nier giving up his existence right? 1. He does not give up his existence, just memories of being there. What he achieved, he achieved, and all the events did happen.
2. Someone has not read the Ending E.
Seriously son, play the games and start reading the actual bonus material, instead of scrapping the bottom of Wikipedia.
Angel Murphy
nier the character was reconstructed as an android in some out of game meme epilogue I'm pretty sure
literally everyone says the games themselves suck to play.
>here play this long ass RPG with terrible gameplay that only loosely connects to the next game through the last one of it's 5th endings that have to be unlocked sequentially (so replay the game 5 times) in order to play another half ass game for dozens of hours 4 times over at the end of which all your progress is permanently lost THEN ONLY THEN can you enjoy the actual good game!
Carson Nelson
it emulates nicely on rpcs3 if you have the hardware
Ryan White
True, but subjectively it's magnificent representation of craziness.
The moment you launch it on RPCS3
James Ortiz
You don't replay the game 5 times, retard. Try playing things you attempt to shit on so you don't shit on yourself instead next time.
Alexander Long
>it emulates nicely on rpcs3 if you have the hardware I've seen folks with i5 4000-series CPU and GTX 750ti run it at actually steady 30fps / 1080p. Which is like 4x better than the actual system. Obviously first time around you just gotta let it build the shader cache, which causes heavy stuttering for a moment.
Jaxson King
>so replay the game 5 times It's so hilarious when the folks who've not even touched the games admit it themselves, without even realizing it.
Nicholas White
EVERYONE ELSE HAS SHIT ON THEM TOO NIGGER.
Literally nobody says the games are actually good to play through
John Perry
>And then there's this faggot... He's objectively right though. There's no reason to actually play DoD1 in this day and age because the gameplay is a tedious onebutton mashing snorefest. In fact, DoD1 is one of the very select few games which are best experienced on youtube.
Daniel Smith
Drakengard 3 is a prequel to Drakengard 1. NieR is a sequel to Drakengard 1's final ending and only retards who haven't played the game think that ending was a wtf joke ending. NieR: Automata is a sequel to NieR. Drakengard 2 isn't directed by Yoko Taro and is set after a different ending
Just watch Clemps. He's a flamboyant faggot and his first video is cringe encarnate but when he settles down it's very enjoyable to experience the unpayable games through a fan's mind.
Gavin Stewart
>only retards who haven't played the game think that ending was a wtf joke ending. It was a joke ending when DoD1 came out.
David Martinez
>literally everyone says again, why didnt you just play the games and see for yourself? the point of tediousness in these games is that it is an investment. if you are ready to commit yourself to playing the game you get to experience things that are out of reach to those who do not commit. I know this concept is practically dead due to players who play video games in the form of youtube cutscene walkthroughs but let me spell it out for you. you do not deserve to see what you have seen if you watch it on youtube. period. fuck off.
Elijah Miller
The very best appraisal I've heard of the entire series is "It's playable, I guess" and that's from fucking fans of the series. Why play through a shit game where only the last 5 minutes of it even matters for reference to a game that is actually said to be good?
David Cox
Based Clemps watcher
Evan Ramirez
>the big secret is their entire reason for existence is made up Not made up, just no longer relevant.
There's multiple layers of metaphor at work, the most obvious is that those who fight a war rarely have a personal grudge against the people they're killing. A war or feud that goes on too long might have no surviving members who know or remember why it's being waged
On a religious level it's comparing the androids made by man to people made by god, both having been abandoned by their creator, and only created to fulfill a purpose that no longer needs to be fulfilled. On both sides we worship an absentee creator who may not exist, only hoping it does because it seems to be the only thing that gives life meaning
On an evolutionary scale, all of life is a struggle for survival of the fittest, a sequential creation of the perfect machine, but what happens when you reach the top of the food chain? Your path there was forged in being better than those who were trying to kill you, killing them in turn, not because you wanted to but because you necessarily had to to reach the top, but then what? What is the purpose of this machine, when it has already bested every other, that very process having formed it
Kayden Scott
The events of NieR still happened fucking retard. That ending is directly followed by Kaine going to the tower in the forest trying to bring him back
Michael Diaz
>only the last 5 minutes of it even matters for reference to a game that is actually said to be good?
I don't care about you playing it, but I'd definitely say there are more references to events and characters in Drakengard beyond just what happens in the last 5 mins. You definitely can appreciate those things if you've played it before stumbling into them in later games.
Michael King
>There's no reason to actually play DoD1 in this day and age That's what you kids use for any sort of tad older, non orthodox game these days. I played ALL of DoD series + OG NieR for the very first time in 2018. Yes, especially DoD1 is tedious and crazy grind fest ... BUT that is quite literally its point as well. No, Youtubing it is NOT the same thing, at all.
Adam Rodriguez
look man, when even fans of the games say they're god awful games to play and you say "just play them" it's like hearing from a person that pissing on an electric fence hurts like a motherfucker and you say "don't listen to them just try it out for yourself"
>BUT that is quite literally its point as well. It's bad gamedesign, plain and simple. Otherwise they wouldn't have had to hire a separate studio that would be busy making gameplay, because Yoko Taro, as much as I love him, can't design gameplay for shit.
I'm almost 30 and played all sorts of games during my time, but I wouldn't endure 70+ hours of mindless grind to get a slightly different experience from the one I would get by playing through it on youtube. It just not worth it in the end.
Juan Young
>battle androids and flight units packed with heavy weaponry >not military
>70+ hours >a slightly different experience so you dont play video games for the games themselves, just the reward that sits at the end? and if you can skip to the reward you will do so because you have no self control or sense of pride. got it.
Owen Adams
I never said play it. I don't recommend it personally because i think it's a bad fucking game. I'm pointing out that the impact from one experience on another is more than you seem to think it is.
Benjamin Torres
2B is so hot
Carson Adams
The fuck are you on about. Did a retard wrote this post?
Caleb Jenkins
>Did a retard wrote
Evan Parker
I only come to these threads because blindfolds give me a boner.
Cooper Morales
if the game has actually good gameplay I'll play hundreds of hours in it no problem but if the game has bad gameplay 70 hours sounds like a fucking awful experience.
Charles Gutierrez
robot propaganda androids dindunuffin next thing youre gonna tell me theres no humans on the moon lol
Daniel Cox
in what dimesion is playing a game 70 hours a "slightly different experience" in comparison to playing a game 0 hours .
Logan Ross
when the gameplay is about as fun as watching paint dry.
David Gutierrez
I love Drakengard the gameplay is really shit but that's okay it's still 100% worth a playthrough anyways, you won't get the same impact if you watch it on youtube or whatever 2 is still all around shit though
You're right, playing that shit game for 70+ hours is a much worse experience than not.
Gabriel Smith
>SWAT uses assault rifles, armored cars and explosives >"ok then, it's a military organization"
kek, american education
Jonathan Powell
and it is an experience that invokes emotions and is worth experiencing. watching a video isnt an experience. it is an observation of someone else's experience.
Joseph Ortiz
Playing DoD1 was fucking physically painful. I cannot fathom how people manage do get through it.
Brandon Ramirez
so are poems, paintings. books, movies and music not experiences? theyre just observations
Eli Murphy
>watching a video isnt an experience. Ah yes, watching Citizen Kane, a non-experiencial act entirely devoid of emotion.
Idiot.
Colton Clark
they're pretty jank but playable
Noah Howard
Drakengard 1 had the best music in the series and the gameplay was bearable. I don't want it to become popular though, my eyes would burn if I were to start seeing countless normalfags freaking out after hearing their first dissonant musical piece "OH MY EARS I THOUGHT MY GAME WAS BROKEN XD"
i had no choice but to savescum like a little bitch and cheese entire chapters. almost didn't get past the wyrm at all, not to mention the ending where caim gets his voice back was fucking impossible with those shit controls
>gameplay was bearable Jesus. I swear, not even fans of the games ever actually say the gameplay is good, fun, engaging, etc. It's always at best 1 step above being actual torture to play.
David Martin
Tell you what fuck stick, you quantify for me the meaningful ways in which playing that ass software enhances the experience beyond what can be obtained from watching a playthrough. None of this vague pontificating about >experience
Literally explain to me what is actually changed. Aside from wasting your time.
Christian Robinson
You forgot how it's connected to Final Fantasy 14, Soul Calibur 6, and the Witcher, and very loosely to Monster Hunter
Cooper Diaz
The best part of the game wasAngelus' voice
Brandon Russell
It's not that terrible, it's just incredibly mediocre bottom of the barrel musou-like. It's not "literally unaplayable" like some broken as fuck Sega Genesis games. Can you play it? Yes. Will you enjoy it? Probably not unless you are a special case.
Aaron Diaz
>Drakengard 1 had the best music in the series Please tell me you don't believe that. Interesting, sure, and definitely in line with the idea of the game itself being a punishment for the player. But best? Come on man.
Gavin Watson
the mediums you listed have their interaction limited to passive observation and scrutiny. that is the main way to experience them. video games are not bound to this limitation since you can directly interact with them through gameplay. by watching videos of a video game you are actively downgrading your experience to an observation, ironically of someone else's experience.
Andrew Hill
>incredibly mediocre No dude, it's bad. It is painful. The camera alone is complete ass to the point of nearly ruining the entire game, and that's even considering how bad they were at handling camera systems in Vidya at the time. Mediocre is how you describe Nier's gameplay.
Zachary Roberts
Caim-Angelus in my opinion is one of the best romances in vidya because it's not based on something shallow like basic physical attraction and is not exactly dictated by some fate-like cicrumstance that they were "meant for each other". They just ended up slowly bonding closer and closer over just how fucking much they hated the world they lived in and before long the only things they cared about were each other. It's not filled with flowery prose or "tearjerker" scenes with three repeating piano chords, it happens over time and not even the writers themselves were certain how it happened.
Not him, but if you simply watch it there's nothing memorable about it, you don't experience the fear of having to go through a certain difficult fight or the triumph you feel when you finally beat it when you're watching someone who has perfected it beat it in one sitting. I guarantee it doesn't have nearly the lasting power to watch it than to play it since everything that occurs in the game isn't a result of your own actions.
Parker Gomez
I do believe that and you being unable to appreciate dissonant music marks you as a pleb in my eyes. Get some taste. youtube.com/watch?v=BiH3vA7q0jo
Jose Morgan
>you can directly interact with them through gameplay. That doesn't automatically make the interaction meaningful or significant to the experience, numbnuts.
>Imagine a book >Every 25 pages you have to fill in a crossword >To skip the crosswords and just consume the story would be less valuable of an experience
This is how dumb you sound
Isaac Sanders
2 is unrelated. 3 doesn't connect to 1 with any of the endings but with a book
Them coming to care deeply for each other was trully beautiful to witness. Which is why the ending where Angelus sacrifices herself and become a new seal is so fucking heartbreaking. Gods, I love this game
Jaxon Sanchez
>but if you simply watch it there's nothing memorable about it, For you maybe. Some of us can remember the shit we watched
Bentley Harris
Right before you fight the wyrm is the only time Angelus sounds like she's showing some sort of emotion aside from anger, and it's so fucking sweet how she asks for Caim to calm her down and legitimately does get calmer when he pats her big dragon head. >ywn have a big tsundere dragon mommy gf
yes but you can do them. you can write a book or paint a painting. is doing that act just inherently better than observing?
Chase Jackson
>starts off scared >gets really pumped when she sees we're whooping its ass that fight was great
James Barnes
>Stop "hearing" things and just play them. Yes goy just play bad games and don't ask questions. Fuck of you sick cultists. Before Platinum got involved Taro's gameplay was absolute dogshit.
