Here are the games with the objectively best combat ever made

>No Xillia 2.
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>Sigma
What the fuck is wrong with you?

>Here are the games with the objectively best combat ever made.
>Here is a shitty RPG with no impact/skill/etc.
surprised he didn't include it lmfao

Is there a place where I can make these 3x3 pictures without having to lose 30min of my time aligning them like an autist? I lost my 3x3.

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Bloodborne is an edgy samey garbage pile that tries too hard to be deep. Liked only by memers
>muh kos, muh kosm
Roll Souls is boring as shit, keep your corridor Souls game edgelord
>Demons Souls
Dated beyond belief only supporting gimmicks

Oh cool, a combat thread. Posting TWEWY as one of my faves.
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The combat in both games is better than Dark Souls 1 by a massive margin.
As for the games? Music, atmosphere, enemies, bosses, weapons, combat, level design, and even the narrative are all better in BB compared to DaS1.

But he listed Tekken and Guilty Gear, what are you talking about with the skill bullshit?

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Found the faggot afraid of japanese shit yet lists japanese shit as his favourite games.

Fighting games are objectively the best combat games in existence.
Xillia is trash that is on par with shit like FF12.

no, simply no

>MGR
Look, user, we all love that game. But the combat is nothing to write home about.

The combat is bad in that game.

>MGR
Shit taste

Replace MGR with Nioh. Throw Valdis story or Rain Blood Mirage Chronicles on there for some 2d representation. Maybe a vanillaware game. Replace Dark Souls with Monhun.

>Combat
Both are way too floaty
>Bloodborne
Much orchestrals, fucking boooring
>atmosphere
Some dumb van helsing shit until it decides to drop some goofy aliens down
>weapons
Could achieve the same effect in another Souls game by just carrying two around
>level design
Fuck your corridor souls
>combat
It’s just rolling over and over again
>narrative
You’re just some hot topic faggot snowflake that’s stuck in a dream with ayy lmaos until you beat the big bad and wake up or die or become a squid

Truth hurts, I know. Dark Souls 1 has probably worst-in-series combat.

>cuhrayzee fag
LOOK AT THIS DUDE

>Fighting games are objectively the best combat games in existence.
I share a board with people like you.

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Thank you, lad. You're alright.

>muh generic picks

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Taste even worse than OPs, didn’t think you could do it

fuck, you mean combat wise. Then i must admit, DeS got 100 times better movesets for weapons, I remember spear r2 was fucking fantastic and katanas were better than in DaS, but i'm not a big fan of BB combat, maybe because it's too fast for consoles

>Dated beyond belief only supporting gimmicks
so you didn't play it, whoops. DeS has better combos and faster movement.

>MGR:R
>light attack button is the same as block
>best combat

you sound like casual zoomer, your arguments are bad

MH has no impact on any attack, it's just watching some poor 3D models clip eachother in a really unsatisfying way.

>combos
user I...

>dd

People who defend it are also against JRPGs with actual good combat. It just goes to show they don't actually give a fuck about the combat.

>z-zoomer
You rebuttaled with a good one yourself idiot

MGR is not that great. 2d can also be crazy. And MH is just dark souls but infinitely more interesting and did it first.

was meant for

Yeah, obviously people like these games for the stories and in depth characterization.

When you hit a weak spot, you get
>large blood splatters
>hitstop
>exaggerated screen-shakes and rumble
Sounds like you just need to git gud

>And MH is just dark souls
it sure as fuck ain't, and i posted that mh webm

I love both but MH is nothing like Dark Souls beyond the surface level, why is this comparison still being made

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There fixed it for you, Westcucks & contrarians need not reply you aren't relevant

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>Both are too floaty.
Fast doesn't equal floaty. You're just spinning out buzzwords.
>Much orchestrals, fucking boooring.
Compared to what? Dark Souls 1's orchestral shit but with worse quality music because it's more repetitive, and recorded with midi and samples while BB is recorded in a orcehstra recording space with like 15 NT5 overheads? The music in BB is not only better from a composition standpoint, it's better because it's real instruments.
>Some dumb van helsing shit until it decides to drop some goofy aliens down
Ten times more original than generic dark fantasy. Not to mention the execution in BB is just better.
>Could achieve the same effect in another Souls game by just carrying two around
Wrong. The weapons in Dark Souls 1 have incredibly bad movesets. You could carry ten Dark Souls 1 weapons, and you'd be bored to tears because you're lucky to have more than 1-2 usable moves. BB weapons have much more developed movesets.
>Fuck your corridor souls
Again, better than Dark Souls 1, which has just bad level design. Also, tons of areas are more open (Forbidden Woods, Nightmare Frontier, Hunter's Nightmare, Fishing Hamlet, Mergo's Loft, etc). In fact, very few areas are corridor-heavy, and nothing on the level of Catacombs from Dark Souls 1.
>It’s just rolling over and over again
Just like Dark Souls 1? Except enemies actually punish roll spam in BB and they don't in Dark Souls 1.
>You’re just some hot topic faggot snowflake that’s stuck in a dream with ayy lmaos until you beat the big bad and wake up or die or become a squid
Again, better than Dark Souls 1 which is literally nothing at all.

because anything harder than gow is automatically omg soulscore !

>DDS over SMT IV: Apocalypse
Fukken why

>dark souls

How many fucking charts do you have? I haven’t seen autism on this level in a long time. Also you can’t just call everyone who disagrees a contrarian that doesn’t disprove anything nor does it address any claims about gameplay

I'm saying it's just a better version. MH poineered slow weighty combat which is what people praise DS for.
Surface level is enough for this discussion. I doubt most people in this series have extensively played most series besides myself.

But they do. most games don't even have any sort of hit feedback which instantly makes them floaty garbage.

before you start shitting on dark souls combat, remember that combat isn't only tied to character movement and moveset it's the whole shitload of things like: stamina management, healing mechanic, enemy movesets and enemy AI, iframes, recovery frames, weapons speed, parry, hyper armor, poise and so on. It all makes souls combat good and fun

>MGR
It's literally a piece of shit combat-wise
>Bayonetta
Devil may cry
>GG
Blazblue

Most people in this thread have extensively played both series* what a fuckup.

>dmcuck thinks his opinion matters
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA COPE

I think you mistook the point of the thread.

that's not what floaty means

>your favorite game

How is BB better than GG is literally any way? Balance is utterly fucked with several characters being legitimately unplayable and the amount of kuso mechanics makes dumb shit like Danger Time look passable. Have you even played either series

What does it mean, go on, and without buzzwords.

Apocaplyse is fucking trash
Super Street Fighter 2 Turbo alone has better gameplay then any of the pieces of shit in OP's picture

BB is literally a worse GG aside from the few interesting characters like Hazama. Most of BB characters are Frankensteins of GG characters with a bunch of fucking superfluous meters and counters kusoge gimmicks tacked on.

i can't belive you are replying to this shit

>Apocaplyse is fucking trash
We're talking combat, dumbass

Just wanted to prove user wrong on his point, actually love both series

>Super Turbo.
>RNG up the ass.
fuck of retarded capshill... it least go with a normal capshill answer like 3S

That’s not what I’m asking, you made a claim now back it up.

none of the souls games have good combat
they require precise timing and forethought, but you're just spamming the same attacks no matter the actual situation

Putting Dark Souls in there was obvious bait for the people that like the other games. If you put Monster Huntsr in there instead of DD, and maybe Nioh instead of DS1 I could stomach this 3x3 a little easier.

You're missing the point.
The souls games have good combat because the enemy interplay is good.
Yes, the character's offensive arsenal is shit, but it's more about defense. It's like the opposite of DMC where they literally have to lock you in the room with retarded sandbags waiting to be juggled but it's a marvel simulator.

I'll accept that, but I'll also counter that with there are other games that do that better. From it's own developer and its competition. DS1 is known for its level design, atmosphere, and lore. Not its combat.

Which mechanics exactly do you find "dumb"? Also if I had to be perfectly honest the reason why i prefer BB is mainly because it's roster, also it feels faster than GG

>nobody mentions Oni

That’s when you know that Yea Forums is populated by fucking kids.

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>Dark Souls but no Monster hunter
gtfo

Why put DS1 there when it has been refined by BB?

>t's like the opposite of DMC where they literally have to lock you in the room with retarded sandbags
The first wasn't like this though. Enemies like the shadow are very reactionary, aggressive if you're firing wildly, passively stalks around if you don't. It's that aspect you count on to bait the spike you can jump on for a critical hit to the core.

Nobody ?

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good taste but MGSV doesn't have great gameplay, just good controls and mechanics.

Here's my attempt at making a list of best combat in western shit:
>Dark Messiah
>For Honor
>Jedi Knight/Academy
>Mount & Blade
>Severance: Blade of Darkness
>Skullgirls

Couldn't really think of more.

You clearly never played it. Or you're just a total fucking noob that can't hit the right spot on the monster.

On the subject of best, these are objectively the best soundtracks

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>Tekken
I love Tekken, but that shit is button mashing garbage, my nigga.

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I'm a huge soulsfag but the combat is not that great
It's extremely simple and it's real strength is how it interacts with the rest of the game's mechanics

OP is noob. You put tekken instead of virtua fighter

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>poohoo

SOTN soundtrack is extremely overrated
It has two or three good tracks but the rest are just stinkers that people pretend to like because they're quirky for a video game

If you can cancel an attack animation by dodging, the combat is shit

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uh oh mummy forgot to change your diapers!!

Stop using objective you autist, you clearly don’t know what it means

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One of those does not belong

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>Dragon's Dogma
Game is style over substance, numbers ruin the combat.

You're a fucking scrub and your mother should have swallowed you

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There are numbers in every game user.

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Nice try there buddy. JRPGS have OBJECTIVELY ;) the most overrated soundtracks around.

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Why sigma over black?

Not that user, since I love fighting games and people who don't are scrubs, but floaty is definitely not the right word. Floaty is a word used to describe games where air attacks keep a player in the air for too long, where falling back to the ground is slow and meandering.

Tl;dr - Floaty has nothing to do with "hit feedback". It just means the gravity is too low.

Attacks are HIGH, MID, Low. and ducking only blocks mids and lows

>In real life, people duck to avoid getting hit by a high attack
>"Hurr! If you duck, you're not blocking for high attacks!"
God damn, do you realize how stupid that sounds?

Because its a game you fucking nerd. If you want realistic combat go outside and fight in karate and martial arts tournaments.

Also it shows you know nothing about Tekken works.

All I'm saying is in every other good fighting game, a straight high attack would miss a crouching opponent.

Out of the entire fucking FF series you chose one of the worst soundtracks. Congrats.

I don't need to know how it works, man. I've been playing it since Tekken 2. It's a fun, casual mash-fest, but it's never gonna be anything deeper than that and that's okay. Not every fighting game needs to be technical, it's okay to play a game for fun. I'm just saying that shit is retarded.

Seething, nobody cares contrarian

No

It would either miss or it'd be blocked. The only thing that should beat a crouch is an overhead. It's fighting 101.

So you are ignorant and proud of it?

Not true. And not all fighting games have to play the same way, and especially not realistically.

different user. Because tekken is style over substance and filled with characters just to sell, it's very badly designed. There are many problems like the one pointed out. Coding a jumping high kick as a mid is biggest amateur noob shit class. Definitive indication for a bad game. It's funny how low your standard is, without you realizing it. If you wouldn't be ashamed to design an simple attack like this, you are pretty stupid.

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It's not about realism. It's about logic, the basis of a normal game. I didn't knew tekken was an abstract fighting game. No seriously you are so stupid for not understanding it.

Yes they do you zoomer fuck.

No, I'm not delusional and I'm relieved that I'm not.

Wrong, keep crying

Back that claim or keep seething, you choice

I corrected it here

>No Silent Hill
>No Atlus games
>No Kingdom Hearts

Holy shit what a shit list

NG2 has better combat than NG1
KOF > GG
VF5 > Tekken

Good choice. No other game controls like this. I love that all of the enemies are designed like a fighting game, with their own movesets that match your own abilities.

Its because its a game. Tekken doesn't have motion specials like SF. But it has moves with command normals that have special properties. Some auto stand a crouching opponent, others are unblockable. Its a game not a simulator.

>Blazblue over GG, even ironically
holy shit

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FFX was the beginning of the end of FF. And it was also a terrible step for JRPGs in general.

God Hand has the best combat in anything, ever. If you try to fight back then you already know you’re wrong.

Good taste

>It's a game not a simulator
Then stop justifying it being so retarded. If we're not supposed to take it so seriously, surely you don't have to get so triggered that we're making fun of its dumbass hitboxes.

Yeah, you are a kid that never played a real fighting game. I see now. Virtua Fighter doesn't spam shit characters to sell to mainstream. That's why virtua fighter is a clean and good fighting game. I am pretty sure there are versions of sould blade/soul calibur and probably even dead or alive that have no silly hit boxes like tekken. Tekken is simply badly made and a bad fighting game. Your love for it doesn't change it. You are just fanboying and turning blind on it's obvious flaws. If you would use your brain and have more experience we wouldn't have this discussion.
Also street fighter III is the best street fighter. I don't care about the rest. SFII is fun too.

Come on, you're making us look bad.

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power stone is missing. Bad list

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But when I read those, it stands out that you are just very ignorant of the game.

people taking tekken too serious makes me sick. It's like fortnite kids talking about shooters... ugh.

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How am I ignorant of the game? It's casual nonsense, which I've said I'm okay with. You don't have to be so defensive.
There's a time to play a really challenging, technical fighter.
There's a time to play a more flashy, showy fighter.
Then there's time to play Tekken.

VF has some silly things too. Like when you throw and do a combo that can carry to wall. youtu.be/tYswTPSDC_Y?t=406 once again Yea Forums is full of nerds that know nothing.

And you know nothing.

yeah, I agree that is silly. I only played older virtua fighters. The last was on ps2.

>DS1
I love the shit out of that game but fuck off

Its in every virtua fighter you ignorant fuck. Shut your mouth.

Are you ever gonna say anything else? Tekken's a good game, user. It's just not a good fighter. It's the fighting game you put on when your friends come over since you know you'd beast on them in any other real fighting game. At least it was around Tekken 5 time. I wouldn't put T7 on for my worst enemy, desu.

still I have to say that the colision detection is spot on in virtua fighter

Dark souls doesn't have good combat. The boss design, enemy design, and level design are great, the actual player attacks are simplistic and do the bare minimum

virtua fighter 1 had no walls

With the thinking people are using those mid attacks that Akira uses are supposed to whiff. Also check out the first 5 seconds of this VF2 video youtube.com/watch?v=mGaXvwYd_98

dishonest

Carry combo to wall or ring out.

No, I love it, for real. It's a great game to play with a group of friends drunk. Shit is a riot, but it's still a game you could practically play with one hand.

Please name games that you think have good combat in them, user.

okay, there are indeed a few combos that look whack. BUT only during juggling. Which means they can't only be misread by the attacker. Not the defender. So I think I am okay with that.

Tekken has attacks that make no sense to the defender the way he has to react. Like round house kicks that only hit straight, and straight attacks at hit when sidestepping them. And jumping high kicks that hit ducking enemies, and kicks that go nowhere near the enemy but still hit. And huge enemies with tiny hitboxes.

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God of War 2018
Horizon Zero Dawn
Spiderman
Uncharted 4
The last of us

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>Dragon's Dogma
>best combat
i only played greatsword and it was a literal buttonmash-fest, you might as well put NieR in there too.

Excellent bait

>no Die by The Sword
pleb