Here's your cyberpunk city bro

>Here's your cyberpunk city bro.
Thanks, it looks great.

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holy shit its like youre braindead
watch GITS, fifth element and BR
all of them have daytime scenes

>Cyberpunk with high-tech
they didn't get this right
>and low-life
they didn't get this right either

it looks like a GTA V mod

You can easily make the sun work in a "noir" setting. Just look at Film Soleil.

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>watch GITS, fifth element and BR
all of those easily manage t look more cyberpunk than your Cyberturd 2077 you desperate $hill

Daytime isn't what makes that image look like utter shit, friendo.

>they didn't get this right
holy shit im convinced preorder cancelled >:(

here's your cyberpunk city bro

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it looks less populaterd than megacity-1, but it looks good

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Here is your Gta V bro

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God that looks like garbage. Like a last gen game.

oh damn, that's megacity-2!

>Implying that:
>Flying cars isn't high tech
>holograms on the street isn't high tech
>mechanical implants isn't high tech
>homing bullets isn't high tech
>etc. from gameplay footage

>Homeless people on street isn't low life
>dirty city streets with trash laying around isn't low-life
>criminals and gang members fighting in the city buildings isn't low-life
>use of drugs on the street in daylight isn't lowlife
>etc. from gameplay trailer

Retarded user.

Here's your cyberpunk city bro.

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Are people genuinely still mad about sun existing in cyberpunk? This can't be real can it? Like are you fucking mad when sun exists in other games? In real life?

Why is this even a fucking complaint. I don't get it. I'm not even particularly excited for cp2077 but I think it looks cool. I just don't and have never understood this outrage over so much fucking NOTHINGNESS

>they managed to turn yet another tabletop rpg into an uninspired, questmarker ridden, voiced protag shitshow
honestly the most disappointing part aside from the dogshit art direction

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Actual game looks even worse

>game has 3rd person driving
>therefore game is GTA
I love that this meme is being pushed despite it being a completely different genre in a completely different setting

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>People on Yea Forums will defend this shit

Give it a rest, shill.

ARGH THE SUN I'M SO MAD!

fuck cyberpunk niggers
t.art decofag

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Strawman argument

I honestly cant wait to see what kinda vehicles we get.
I really wanna ride around on a fucking kanedacycle or something similar.

>s-shill!
>provides no counterargument
What I said was fact. All you faggots post are the same few cherry picked screenshots. Not a very convincing argument to the people who watched the gameplay demo.

>hurr i like le bright advertisement and neon everywhere

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wasn't MC2 bombed to oblivion at judgement day?

But you guys are the only one screaming about the sun.

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calm down mad queen you will be able to make 5 new videos about cp2077 tomorrow

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In 2077 they voted my board the worst place to be on Yea Forums.
Main issues? Skyhigh rate of shitposting and more underage fags than anywhere else.
I can't deny it, it's all true. But everybody still wants to be here.
Yea Forums always has a promise to you, may be a bait, a pasta, but it's there, just around the next thread, and it keeps you posting.

It's a board of newfags, and I'm big faggot.

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>now claiming I'm some random eceleb
>still no counterargument
interdasting

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Almost lifelike if not for the 2d tree branches

yea no shit. it has to run on a PS4 smoothly

I don't think I'd be nearly as unconvinced if they just showed another fucking trailer or something. Even Pondsmith, the dude who made the cyberpunk tabletop said the first 48 minute trailer was shit. But they apparently showed another one behind closed doors to him at their studio and then he was convinced.

Hes a perfectionist too, so?
Hurry up and show other shit, for fucks sake CDPR, youre losing steam and hype.

A good tabletop RPG, I might add. I lold when this got announced and tabletop fags started speculating on how the IRL ballistics, passing out, going into shock etc. will be incorporated into the game, only to discover several years later that it's just a console shooter

>why does a shitty youtube video looks blurry
Also the game looking washed out can be fixed by increasing the gamma.

holy fuck they're downgrading it already

also alpha footage.
people overestimate how far they are into the game progress. when they said early alpha they meant EARLY alpha. that game will come out in 2022 or later

>It has to run on xbone smoothly
ftfy.

Witcher 3 looked fucking great on consoles, stop making excuses for these guys they can clearly do better than this, their direction of the art style is utter shit

>Even Pondsmith, the dude who made the cyberpunk tabletop said the first 48 minute trailer was shit.
Source me up my dude.

It was right around the tim

How much CDPR bucks are you making for this braindead scripted reply? It's like you don't understand the appeal of the cyberpunk aesthetic at all.

same shit basically.

>i want an immersive cyberpunk game that allows me to live in the world
>i want the days to be 12 hours long and the sun to not exist

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Yes, the sun not existing is clearly what makes me a non-shill. You dont know REALY cyberpunk like I do.

>the urbz

One of the most iconic bits in GITS is done in a bright as fuck overcast.

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You don't remember the endless The Witcher 3 threads complaining about grass?

This post got me. Have a (you)

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no idea, but in a dredd comic it has sense, looks how good it looks

What the actual fuck are you talking about? He loved the trailer & demo.

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>he had to drop the "night city" part because he got so btfo by loreologists

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>they meant EARLY alpha
The game is playable from start to finish.

>that game will come out in 2022 or later
You're insane. It's coming out either late 2019 or early 2020.

This is peak zoomer. Their only concept of "cyberpunk" is pure aesthetic, nothing else, and even then they get it wrong.

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NNOOOOOOO THAT GOES AGAINST MY ANTI-CDPR NARRATIIIIIIVE

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He's completely mistaken
It was a different cyberpunk author who said he didn't like the initial trailer we got at E3 last year. Same guy said that he watched the gameplay demo and his faith was restored but that doesn't play into these faggot's agenda so it's always left out.

Accurate post

>Witcher 3

>Pop in population
>Very little models outside trees
>The FPS
Why are you blatantly lying?

>criticize a mediocre looking game
>NOOOO LEAVE MY SOULLESS CORPORATION ALONE
yikes

Only real chads know Night City was named after Robert Night, the guy who funded and designed Night City but was assassinated.

Thank you for the vote up leddit

She was moving through a crowded street, past stalls vending discount software, prices feltpenned on sheets of plastic, fragments of music from countless speakers. Smells of urine, free monomers, perfume, patties of frying krill. For a few frightened seconds he fought helplessly to control her body. Then he willed himself into passivity, became the pas senger behind her eyes.
The glasses didn't seem to cut down the sunlight al all. He wondered if the built-in amps compensated automatically. Blue alphanumerics winked the time, low in her left peripheral field. Showing off, he thought.

>Witcher 3 looked fucking great on consoles, stop making excuses for these guys they can clearly do better than this, their direction of the art style is utter shit
No shit, most of the time witcher 3 it's just plain fields with some houses between.

>called Night City because the buildings and pollution block out the sun
>let's make it as bright as GTA5

>CDPR
>Soulless

Its fucking amazing how far you faggots are reaching.

Just admit half of you are buttmad its in first person only.

>Mediocre-looking
>looking
>I'm genuinely trying to pretend criticizing an alpha on graphics is something big enough to get defensive over
Actual yikes.

>cyberpunk game, set in "night city"
>it's actually gta future edition set in sun city

Poles are trained ever since kids to defend their shit

they will prob start calling you 'russian/german shills' or they will rant about WWII

And i still love it.
Also you fucking zoomers need to learn what Cyberpunk is ACTUALLY about, and not just fucking dark cities. Fucking retardfags.

>minecraft level draw distance

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That's not why its called night city at all you disingenuous retard.

You have to go back to /pol/, Dorian Rito. Don't you have an r/mlp thread to moderate?

>How would a GTA set in the future not be cyberpunk in the first place?

Holy shit you really are a bootlicker. How cucked.

So what is about those balant shitpost raids?
Did cdpr twitter made some tweet that offended trannystera again?

Good counterargument, you fuckin' sped.

>not Agnostic Front
WHY
AM I
GOING INSANE

>not Pulp
FROM SAFEWAYS
TO TESCOS

The trailers were very similar also
youtube.com/watch?v=lrvPICQgopk

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But it looks just like real life

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Looks like gta

>legit criticism
>booo! booo! sjw! tranny! booo! offended! booo!

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It's likely more like butthurt americucks that it isn't a game from the US, and second from a company that's on a blacklist by SJWs.

Post the tweet already

Good job revealing how much of a retard NPC you are.

the npc is you.

LEAVE CYBERPUNK TO ME

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Looks good to me. Thanks!

>criminal minorities
>people dressing like retards
>trash everywhere
Seems like a cyberpunk dystopia to me.

>On an sjw blacklist
holy fuck what? Explain further, por favor.

>minorities
They're the majority in 2077

Fuck whats that weird French cyberpunk graphic novel? The one with tech priests and that long drop they throw people off of?

But it's daytime in that screenshot. Ergo it's not cyberpunk. I'm right you're wrong lolol shill.

Sure, but the point still stands. I just used the term minorities because everyone knows what I mean.

(OP)


>not Agnostic Front
WHY
AM I
GOING INSANE

>not Pulp
FROM SAFEWAYS
TO TESCOS

GTA3???

how about you stop living under a rock

I forgot just how bad the it looked in that first trailer, literally every outdoor scene has disgusting godrays at 45 degree angles. That shit shouldn't happen in a massive dystopian city

Looks fine to me

Ebin reply, sure showed me. Now screenshot your post and go post it for 5 karma.

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I don't have any blackNpeas reaction pic but good one

Holy fuck what the heck is wrong with you, fucking Zoomerfaggotcunt. Lurk the fuck moar.

i hate Yea Forums, i don't know why i still come to this place

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Is The Fifth Element cyberpunk?

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No it's sci-fi due to all the aliens, space and fantasy elements. Also no focus on the corporations, corruptions and transhumanism.
But the aesthetics of that one home city are great. Packed, overcrowded and comfy.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyberpunk

kek there is obviously a concentrated effort to shit on cdpr even though the game is clearly high quality

yes absolutely

>Also no focus on the corporations, corruptions and transhumanism.
Dumbass the whole movie is him interacting with a bunch of corporations. The villain is a corrupt corporate cyborg gangster.

>ps4
>smoothly
lol

>It's not about the sun
>Describes how the sun shining in the picture is literally the reason for hating the shot
You got it broski.

>this is real cyberpunk
>no it isn't
>yes it is
No one cares. People don't even like cyberpunk. They just think Blade Runner looks cool, and they think that's what cyberpunk is. And yes, Blade Runner's aesthetics are better than the entire cyberpunk literary genre.

(OP)


>not Agnostic Front
WHY
AM I
GOING INSANE

>not Pulp
FROM SAFEWAYS
TO TESCOS

This is so pathetic. How can you distill an entire genre down to "muh aesthetic". Cyberpunk isn't about the sun you fucking regards. Go jack off to bladerunner for the 100th time

>Witcher 3 looked fucking great on consoles
It really didn't.

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Yes, but the genre sucks, and Blade Runner looks cool.

>Regards
I'm phone posting and you can't stop me

Cyberpunk (the literary genre) appeals to the kinds of people who think Banksy is clever.

>first 10 minutes of the game is the player trying to save a woman from being organ harvested by techno gangs and then a remote transmitter sends a team in a flying car to revive her
>NOOOOO NOT CYBERPUNK
???

>all those threads talking about "hey guys what class/faction are you going to be"

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But I could see the sky??? Like wtf that's not cyberpunk??

Autists will get mad about anything. What’s new? The game will be like the Witcher 3 - it sell millions and will cause eternal butthurt on this board until the Sun turns into a red giant.

Imagine if people got on this autistically over high fantasy settings.

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>it sell millions
>ooga booga sells big means good
lmao

stan talent

Hating popular things doesn't make you interesting

Yea Forums doesn't get cyberpunk at all. they only get the surface values out of it like the aesthetic and think thats what it should be all about.

He didn't said it will be good, only that it will sell millions, win goty over sekiro causing butthurt of Yea Forums. It's 2015 all over again. Personally can't wait

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It's not really a high fantasy/scifi setting though. It's just current day California with some silly tech in the background. Which makes sense since the devs literally admitted they went to California for inspiration.

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>hurr i like le soulcrushing blandness

I get it. I just think it's lame.
>hack into the mainframe, Chromedome! takka takka takka takka
>Let's do a drugs, lol
>wtf, people are rich. I hate capitalism now.

Who cares what gaming journos deem good and what NPCs buy? Are you so cucked you care more about these things than the quality of the video game? Why are you even here if you're such a proud drone?

Thanks bro, looks great.

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This desu, honestly I much prefer whatever Deus Ex can be themed as compared to Cyberpunk

yeah in a poor slum they would just tear down all the slums to rebuild high tech slums instead of just throwing up billboards and shit on top of the slums that are already there. good thing you aren't a designer

Its not far enough into the future to look like other generic cyberpunks

So? in cyberpunk it rains 95% of the time and can only take place at night? What happens when it's not raining and it's not night time? Was the movie Dredd not cyberpunk?

>no night pics
huh?????

word

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Deus Ex 1 was basically every 90's conspiracy theory thrown into a blender, with a light dusting of cyberpunk.

That was sarcasm, lad.

It's not about the existence of the sun, cyberpunk conceptually has nothing against the sun. Thanks actual issue is the art and world direction looks so shitty and uninspired that you could mistake some scenes for GTA5 screenshots, and part of that is their poor USE of the sun in developing an appropriate atmosphere.

>Its not far enough into the future to look like other generic cyberpunks
Who cares about realism? The original post was that this was a high fantasy setting. When it's really not. Can't you be a little more consistent?
Also I posted a screenshot from a Bladerunner anime. Set in 2049 as opposed to 2077.

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Train you reading comprehension. I don't care, I didn't even play witcher 3 but it is just funny to see there are still people who are butthurt that w3 won goty over bloodborne and fo4 and can't wait for it to happen again. Thats all

>V attempts to blend in an lgbt parade

>yeah in a poor slum they would just tear down all the slums to rebuild high tech slums
City developers literally do that though, what shithole city do you live in where shit skyscrapers aren't updated and demolished over time?

No chance its out this year.
Late 2020 for sure, cross platform with new consoles

Comparing anything to Blade Runner is just unfair.

>cross platform with new consoles
Doubtful. There is no reason for this game to be on a more powerful console.

Then it's not a slum anymore dumbass

>What are public housing projects

Case in point, surface values.

CP2077 already looks like a generic GTA clone. Being a generic sci-fi clone would not only be an improvement in general it would be more faithful to the genre.

hi-tech: check
lo-life: kinda? check, I guess, even though the movie spends the good half of itself on luxurious spaceship.

Chromatic aberration should be illegal.

i think blade runner was too serious to really hit people where it hurts. i think cyberpunk as a genre should generally be done as morbid satire, like a cruel self-deprecating indictment on ourselves for the fate we've wrought upon ourselves. i think blade runner, especially the new one, focuses too much on making the dystopian future seem cool and fancy, rather than just a horrible shitty mess where most people suffer for no real reason at all, and others live the most luxurious lives, completely undeserved as well. suffering in depicted as meaningful in blade runner, and technology is depicted as useful and interesting, whereas i feel that it should be the opposite: no one dies for a reason, and technology is nothing but frivolous toys for the rich. but perhaps it's fine that blade runner is it's own thing, judge dredd is much closer to what i think orthodox cyberpunk is.

but the one thing i think the blade runners do well is the theme of self-actualization. both movies contain characters that live meaningless lives, but manage to create meaning for themselves. in the end, it doesn't matter if all their efforts were for naught, what matters is that they were able to beat the sedation of their meaningless existence and controlled their own fates. i think this nietzschean philosophy is paramount to cyberpunk. as cyberpunk itself is like a satirical extrapolation of our society's current course, it follows that the death of the ideology would be extrapolated as well, and what seems like an existential dread over our society now would become more like an existential terror. the win-condition of a cyberpunk character is not beating whatever enemy they have, but beating this existential terror.

or perhaps i'm just projecting how i feel about the world onto the entirety of cyberpunk. hopefully some day when i finish my game project i'll be able to put my dumb shit in it

Not that guy but that's 90% of all William Gibson's works.
It's really not that deep of a genre.

It'd be crying that it's not high fantasy when low fantasy is superior.

ah yes, developers always tear down completely viable buildings to throw up public housing projects.
For FUCKS sake man every argument you make just makes you look dumber. Just stop

Here's your nighttime bro.

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And? Blade Runner 2019 had flying cars and giant buildings too. It's in a different universe. One that got taken over by the european union.

>cyberpunk night
>doesn't look cyberpunky at all
what the fuck
literally the thing that had the most weight on the setting

Why dev loves to shove their own "interpretation" of the source material? VtMB did it right

>it somehow looks even worse
YAMEROOOOOOOO

Any genre can be generalized like that.

REEEE WHERE IS MY NEON

MULTIPASS

>Slums
>completely viable buildings
I can see some inconsistencies with your logic user

Yes. Exactly. It's an actual high fantasy/scifi setting.
Did you read the original post? The one I'm replying to?

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DO YOU HAVE MULTIPASS?

What interpretation?
Trauma Team is a medical private military conglomerate that has a regional office in every major north american free state city. They have V-TOL's and heavy cargo jets.

Of course they're gonna look like shock troopers with gyrojet guns when they bill you a flat rate of a 100$ a minute and have over 16,000 employees.

They have a long way to go if CD Projekt Red is Aiming to Match Quality of Red Dead Redemption 2.

what we wanted what we shat out

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notice, the sky is white, there is no sun rays, the light is dampened through clouds of fog and pollution

Also GitS is not cyberpunk go away

Can you imagine this kind of autism happening to a fantasy game?
>It's not real fantasy because there are no Dragons and no adventure.
>Tolkien said this, and the game is doing the opposite, it's not real fantasy
>GRRM said he didn't like it so it isn't fantasy
>"here is your fantasy with steam engines bro"

>youre losing steam and hype.

not with anti-sun autists "accidentally" shilling this game here every day

If they want to match the quality of Red Dead Redemption 2. They are going to need the power, their engine doesn't seem as optimized.

>art decofag
I bet you actually read Rand lmao

>GitS is not cyberpunk

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No, no inconsistencies. Only if you're a retard who can't follow a conversation and doesn't know how the real world works.
Developers aren't going to tear down dilapidated buildings and put up more slums.

look at all that hot cyberpunk ambience

Are you retarded? Ghost in the Shell is 100% cyberpunk.

"The streetscapes of Ghost in the Shell were based on Hong Kong. Its director Mamoru Oshii felt that Hong Kong's strange and chaotic streets where "old and new exist in confusing relationships", fit the theme of the film well.[30] Hong Kong's Kowloon Walled City is particularly notable for its disorganized hyper-urbanization and breakdown in traditional urban planning to be an inspiration to cyberpunk landscapes."
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyberpunk

Bro that was just a PR talk.

>oi Ivanjtzs zis nyu amerigan game jhast game out and people lovez it
>oh I know Bratjnziskow we'll compare our jank shooter to it in an interview to fire up our drones zhat will parrot it on the mongorian basket weaving forums kurwa

>>Also GitS is not cyberpunk
lads

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>This is totally reasonable
There's no way in hell developers would let slums ever get that bad you fucking retard, it's obviously supposed to be dystopic but that's ridiculous

10/10 made me lul

Oh STOP. They are moving the camera, the blurriness is from the damn motion blur MS and Sony forces on us.
LOD could definitely be better tho

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All it would take is a severe economic bust and an abandonment of industry

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It could be the LOD or it could be the fact that they haven't finished building the city and adding all the details. There's no way of telling until the game is released though.

Looks good.
Am I supposed to screech because everything isn't pink or purple and covered in rain?

Euro, california doesn't look anything like that.

>Game is based on tabletop
>Actually do everything based on tabletop lore
>waaaah muh neo noir cyberpunk rain non stop edition huuuuurrrrr

why every single CDPR character since Witcher 3 looks exactly the same?

All I wish for is pls be an actual RPG, not some dumb slav shooter

The argument you are making is A implies B and C, therefore B implies C.
That doesn't work here, because neither B nor C imply A.

>The streetscapes of Ghost in the Shell were based on Hong Kong. Its director Mamoru Oshii felt that Hong Kong's strange and chaotic streets where "old and new exist in confusing relationships", fit the theme of the film well
I can see this, it is very obvious in the visual language of the film.
The old city and the new city play into the theme of the changing of the human condition as technology expands. This is visual storytelling.
You can see it in a couple of shots, most importantly the Major in her room looking out of the window, the conversation on the boat, the ending scene and the scene where the Major catches that garbage man, just as he reaches the divide between the old and the new.

I don't quite get what the way a city looks has to do with cyberpunk though. Besides, we all know that the most cyberpunk thing is a bright blue sky and a space station full of Rasta hackers who smoke weed every day.

I don't understand why some people expect a video game version of a tabletop to have everything the tabletop has, it's just impossible. I suppose those people have never played tabletop games or have a completely unrealistic idea of video game development.

Post what character she looks like.

I like Jackies car, but do we have to use it? I know they said we can use other vehicles, but im just wondering if theres some kind of tram system. Do we buy cars? if we steal them, are they hot and driving around in them is bad news?

I have so many fucking questions.

cyberpunk is literally form over function

>tfw coastal chinkoid cities are more cyberpunk than 2077

>REEEEEEEEEE it doesn't look like blade runner REEEEE

why is everyone on Yea Forums retarded? everyone will have fun with cyberpunk 2077 on release. Yea Forums can't do shit about it

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Yes.
-Clicks on screeching.exe-
Please get angry.

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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>the blurriness is from the damn motion blur
No it looks blurry even when not moving. Like somebody poured Vaseline on the screen. It's there to conceal jaggies.

>MS and sony
But it was played on a PC.

To be fair tabletop games are all about making your own interpretation and DIY

I know ill have fun.
Im just curious whether or not there'll be preorder exclusives, and if so, what kind.

>WORK IN PROGRESS. DOES NOT REPRESENT THE FINAL LOOK OF THE GAME
>WORK IN PROGRESS. DOES NOT REPRESENT THE FINAL LOOK OF THE GAME
>WORK IN PROGRESS. DOES NOT REPRESENT THE FINAL LOOK OF THE GAME

VtMB was watered down to, it's just not popular enough to shitpost about you fucking pleb

You'd think the devs would try to retain the most RPG elements of the P&P game when adapting it to an actual RPG video game. But no. Railroaded story is more important to these hacks I guess.

I thought steampunk fans were bad but cyberpunk really takes the cake

>Railroaded story
This sounds shitty. Must be because the source is from your ass.

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What the fuck are you talking about? Not a single CRPG in existence has a completely free form story.

That just means it'll look even worse. I mean, they're already shitting up the LOD And just look at what happened to the Witcher 3

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Cyberpunk is a subgenre of sci-fi.
The realm of the genre is the subversion of classic sci-fi.
Classic sci-fi is about the glorification of science and progress. It can be set in both the near and far future and it usually explores the fruits of scientific progress in generally positive tones, maybe with a warning here and there and it can bring up the moral questions new technology introduces.
The sci-fi characters are usually clear cut and have a motivation and an ideology or a moral compas.
Cyberpunk takes that and makes scientific progress appear as a more ambiguous force, a force which does not improve society and life in it self, but it merely changes it.
It focuses on the misuse of science and shows how it's fruits can a tool of both evil and good. Usually focusing on the bad.
It's character are rarely clear cut and are morally ambiguous. They may be virtuous and motivated by an ideology, but they're not presented as pure.
The idea that the genre is defined by either aesthetic or how far in the future it is set is ridiculous. It's core is the debunking of the science will fix it all idealism.
Delivering that message is the core of cyberpunk and from there you can go about it any way you want.

Nah, the source is a voiced, scripted protagonist as seen in the demo.

Is that why they bash their skulls in to put implants?

I just want this game to come out so you can all shut the fuck up about it sooner.

I know this is a shitposting thread but anybody keeps discovering new shit they never noticed before everytime they watch the gameplay demonstration? Like yesterday, I just noticed that the poster Yea Forums zooms in on after she gets her optic implant is a schematic breakdown on the Mantis Blades she is given later on in the demo

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I am not sure if you are ironically being retarded but stop.
Just read the wiki, everything about Ghost in the Shell is cyberpunk.

"Cyberpunk is a subgenre of science fiction in a futuristic setting that tends to focus on a "combination of lowlife and high tech"[1] featuring advanced technological and scientific achievements, such as artificial intelligence and cybernetics, juxtaposed with a degree of breakdown or radical change in the social order."

>Sunny day in that image
>Clearly see for miles
Not cyberpunk.

>Vaseline on the screen
the details are crisp when camera is still.

>PC
MS and Sony force developers to use motion blur, console parity dictates it's also available on PC

not the world though, there are sets of rules you must follow

Hasn't Yea Forums learned that the game is based on Cyberpunk the tabletop RPG and not Cyberpunk the nebulous genre?
Ponsdsmith's Cyberpunk is more like a zany after school special than about tackling any serious themes about humanity and overindulgence

Liking popular things don't make you interesting and more likely to be a bandwagoning faggot.

This has literally never been done. All the D&D adaptations are fairly straightforward too. Nowadays it's an even more unrealistic idea because the standards for assets are ridiculously high. Video games will always feel very focused and narrow compared to tabletop RPGs and this is OK as long as the focused part is good.

>Haven't glue eaters realized
LMFAO no.

All punk genre's are about the misuse of that given technology.

It's meant to illustrate the capacity for scientific dystopia, hence the name punk. Atomicpunk, steampunk, decopunk, cyberpunk. The settings are rarely utopian, and have often characters which use technology as a crutch rather than an extension of the self.

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>Cyberpunk is a subgenre of science fiction in a futuristic setting that tends to focus on a "combination of lowlife and high tech"[1] featuring advanced technological and scientific achievements, such as artificial intelligence and cybernetics, juxtaposed with a degree of breakdown or radical change in the social order
That's a pretty good definition.
Now where's the breakdown or radical change in the social order in GitS?

How BTFO will Yea Forums be when this wins every GOTY

Hey strawmanning sunfag.
I was always fine with the day/night cycle. I'd just prefer a foggy overcast due to pollution most of the time and MUCH MORE importantly tall buildings.
2077 has neither.

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the world descriptions are kinda vague, there's plenty of space for interpretation

>Now where's the breakdown or radical change in the social order in GitS?
In the background, if you pay attention to the subtleties present within.

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>trailer vs gameplay in a nutshell

desu, it actually looks like they didnt add in the LOD details

Where?
Show me a scene where you can see this. The garbage men not collecting the trash properly isn't really a "breakdown" of the social order.

my favorite genre is night punk
it features trench coats, flickering street lamps and NO SUN

Thanks console players
Once again we have a bullet in the leg

>their own "interpretation" of the source material?
>endorsed by creator of the source material himself
>quote on quote "nailed it"
OH NO THOSE DEVS ARE TOTALLY RUINING THE SOURCE MATERIAL

Sun exists throughout the Sprawl Triology and other cyberpunk works, why are you so dumb

Coined.

The game already ran at 30FPS at only 1080p. Having proper LOD would chug it even lower. They ought to optimize this shit which means they'll have to downgrade something.

>i-its just a beta

>This has literally never been done.
ToEE tried at first. They axed like 70% of those things soon after.

You remember the scene, where they are running through the market shooting, and there are poor people everywhere, and people living in low-grade housing, while the body augs the major has could buy any one of those people a nice luxury apartment.

youtu.be/6LAH3qE73lE?t=93
oh no

Listen, I'm 100% behind the "MUH NEON LIGHTS AND DARK DARK NIGHTS" theme for cyberpunk, but this setting is perfectly find too. It's definitely capable of illustrating relevant themes.

it ran locked 30 fps @ 4k, it will be fine

>Picking one option over the other clearly means its railroaded.

How terminally retarded are you?

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>i don't want someone that will just stick a label of cyberpunk on it and then do something totally different
Name a bigger cuck. Pro tip: you can't.

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And yet Yea Forums is ass blasted every year by goty awards

You know what that scene looks like to me?
A chase through a large and busy marketplace. That's it. There's no poor people in the background, just people selling things and carrying stuff around.

Way to misread his point. He said they're not complaining about the sun existing, he's complaining that you can SEE it.

Cyberpunk is supposed to be a giant planetwide slum with no nature anywhere. Every building is an overpopulated, polluted den of skyscrapers where you can't see the ground, or the sky.

This thing's idea of "cyberpunk" is just being outside of detroit while lens flare goes over a slightly futuristic looking car.

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that pretty cool actually
what are some night punk films?

Pondsmith has never been a super smart guy, CP2020 was dumb 80s cheese in a good way and CP3.0 was just plain dumb

>those billboards
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Look ok, but they should really add some chromatic aberration.

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>quote on quote

not to play doubles advocate here

shit I was hoping for akira neo tokyo looking shit not this empty shit

>SUPPOSED to be
What 'cyberpunk' is supposed to be is high-tech, low-life, no more and no less. The presence of the sun has literally no bearing on the inequalities suffered by the society beneath it. Thinking sunlight is equivalent to a good day is the height of shallowness, or lack thereof.

Dark City.

>it's rainwet streets , it's nights like this with fog rolling in, that wet, cold environment is what it's all about
>the important part of cyberpunk is getting that dark gritty wet street feeling
I bet he cried himself to sleep when he saw those buzzing malls, the comfy palm trees, the beautiful clear skies. Aaaaah yeah, good 'ol cyberpunk

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I'm just happy that we're getting a game where we can explore a futuristic city. I know that the gameplay won't necessarily be the greatest ever but scifi games happening entirely in a single city are pretty rare, the most recent one that comes to mind is Jet Set Radio Future.

It can't have the same freedom as a Tabletop RPG. It's just impossible unless you've got coders, level designers, modellers, writers and voice actors all live streaming and creating actively in response to your actions. Anyone who expects that is an idiot or is just taking a ludicrous proposal.

Furthermore Night City in the game doesn't look like the Night City I had in my mind when I ran cyberpunk 2020 but my vision and imagination of how it looked probably looked different in the minds of everyone I was playing with, because that's how tabletop rpgs work.

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Seems like Poland to me.

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>the entire planet is suppose to be a slum
not true in transmetropolitan and other cyberpunk works

SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP CYBERPUNK IS BLADE RUNNER AND NOTHING BUT. AND IGNORE THOSE SCENES AT THE TYRELL BUILDING WITH SUNLIGHT AS WELL.

You're either being ignorant or intentionally obtuse to be avoiding the point. The point of a cyberslum is that the people live in sickly artificial light their entire lives like hamsters in a cage without ever seeing the sky, or nature.

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He's probs just really happy that he made it big. Besides as a tabletop RPG guy he knows that different players will have a different idea of the setting, it's one of the biggest charms of the hobby.

>poland
>minorities
Sounds more like the USA he's describing there m8, in which case they're spot on since the game is set in fucking America.
I find it hilarious how amerimutts are screeching it isn't "cyberpunk" because it looks too much like their 3rd world tier current day home cities.

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>It can't have the same freedom as a Tabletop RPG. It's just impossible unless you've got coders, level designers, modellers, writers and voice actors all live streaming and creating actively in response to your actions.
I was talking about more classes and factions. 2077 has zero joinable factions, meaning 0 character role play in that aspect and it has 3 most generic classes available.

Great movie, now imagine that instead of perpetual night it was bathed by nice, sweet sunlight. But why would anyone have a Dark City full of sunli-.. oh

No it's not.

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Well, it wouldn't be night punk, then.
Because night punk has NO SUN

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Ukrainians are currently flooding Poland
They're a minority.

>polish
>ukrainians
same difference

I love cyberpunk and I think Banksy is a hack.

No it's not. Read the damn books rather than a synopsis.

When is this supposed to come out? end of the year?

>Doesn't look cyberpunky at all.

Are you blind, ignorant or just shitposting?

I did. Had to drop it due to all the horribly written, self-insert cringy sex scenes.

Somone needs their history lesson.Is that you you filthy German?

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>no sun
dropped

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>derp

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Altered Carbon isn't cyberpunk.

>it's 2d4u to understand!
We've been over this. It's gay shit for faggots, and neon lights are cooler.

Even back in the day of 90s PC gaming player classes usually just meant different stats and skills with maybe some minor differences here and there in the story. Lots of P&P classes don't translate well into video game gameplay and making the world reactive to surprising details is much more work nowadays because you have to do additional voice acting, animation and such instead of just writing a new line of dialogue.

Also joinable factions aren't inherently an important part of a tabletop RPG (they do make an open world video game RPG arguably more fun though)

>GITS is not cyberpunk

That is the dumbest thing all thread and that's saying something.

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>god
>it was mad christfags all along

That's "making of" Blade Runner 2049 webm

True cyberpunk is supposed to focus on "punks". Down and out anti-establishment types. GitS is a cop series.

Is it even coming out this year? And why the fuck would you compare this to Sekiro when its actual competition is Nioh 2 and GoF?

>le redditor

>derp

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GoF?

>Being this retarded

Do the words, "setting", and "themes" mean anything to you? Do you often confuse them both with the word "story".

Are you having a stroke? Shit-post twice if you need help.

ghost of sushi, you know what he means.

I would argue that though Major is a law enforcement agent, she goes against the establishment several times. Especially in the first movie.

Damn totally forgot about that.
Nah Sekiro and Nioh 2 is going to be better.

CP2077 threads have convinced me that cyberpunk is actually a Platonic ideal: it only exists in the world of ideas. No real-life work of fiction is really cyberpunk, they're all faulty, perverted imitations of it.

A true cyberpunk fan should concentrate on the ideal, abstract cyberpunk instead of dirty real-life replicas of it. Reading cyberpunk books, watching cyberpunk movies and playing cyberpunk games will only lead to disappointment and are a waste of time.

It's immense, the collapse of most of global society due to WW3 and 4, the US breaking apart into three powers for example, with Japan surviving economically due to its geopolitical position, but in Japan itself in the middle of a merger between corporate enetities, especially Poseidon and the government, with branches of the government acting independently and in their own economic and personal interests. Add into this the dissolution of the boundaries between reality and the net through the use of cyberbrains and the creation of new social structures within.

Read the fucking comic, it's literally spelt out in the first page and the rest of the first chapter highlights how fucked up shit is with war orphans being kidnapped, forced to be cyborged and made to craft programms and other stuff for export only for Section 9, which isn't Section 9 at the moment, to discover it's actually run by part of the Japanese government as private interest for a corrupt minister.. There's various places where due to the nuclear war and poltical chaos that are no man lands of abandoned megastructure slums. God's sake there's no subtext, it's not hinted at, the comic beats you over the head with it.

Fuck subtext this is LITERALLY

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It's a cop series in a cyberpunk setting

William Gibson didn't mean the term as a vague nebulous thing. His stories are quite literally about punks with computers.

No it's not. Name one cyberpunk work where this is the case. Just one.

You completely misunderstand what classes are in TRPGs and furthermore most people threw out the class system when they played 2020 because it was too restrictive.

The dirty secret about cyberpunk is that most of the time it's not the main feature of whatever it is featured in.
Only a small handful of works use the setting rather then having it a backdrop.
Alien is set in a cyberpunk world, but it's a space slasher.

I've seen people vehemently rail Dredd as non-cyberpunk in these threads before. It is fucking BIZARRE.

is rain man made now?

Motoko Kusanagi is a barely legal gun for hire who's only working for one guy in the Japanese government as a carved out niche as a legally sanctioned death squad member solely because it's an easy way to get paid, have a cool mil-spec body and she has a license to kill while she does her work. She illegally smuggles nanomachine drugs into the country and uses them in cyberorgies with her sex-friends that she livestrams to a paying audience. Upon having to get the fuck out of Section 9 after she blows away an Israeili diplomat's son, she's not too fussed aside from losing a good gig and goes into work for herself after her merging with 2501. Section 9 is basically Aramaki's personal death squad who are sent out to get corrupt ministers, military officials and coporate executives who are otherwise untouchable. Read the fucking source material

Read

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The film is not the comic.
Mamoro Oshii's Ghost in the Shell is for all intents and purposes a standalone work.
I do not see any of those in the film, there is no collapse, maybe something happened in the past, but things seem to be going mostly alright and well ordered for everyone.

I see that there is smog but why is it so blurry? The gameplay video didn't have it, but every single screenshot looks like I'm looking through a plastic bag.

Neither is Blade Runner.

Why can't europeans into skylines? The devteam should have stayed for a month in HK or Tokyo and then start making Night City. That looks lame for a cyberpunk skyline.

The film has the same exact situation geopolitically and within Japan as the comic and shows several of the stories shown within it albeit framed by Oshii so it's got more focus on spirtuality. This is also shown in the film so go fuck yourself.

Dredd as a franchise is just over the top dystopian sci-fi goofiness. There's some cyberpunk in there, but there's also some of everything. Demons from parallel dimensions, wasteland mutants, Dredd fought the Devil once.

This saddens me. user why Dredd was a good Cyberpunk movie.

t. has not been to Japan or Hong Kong.

Was there a batch of new screenshots or something?

It looks great honestly, i'd rather they'd a grey/rainy filter rather than an orange one during the day but other than that it looks great

Play some aphex twin and you are set

AHHHHHHHH MY EYES NOOOOOOOOO

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>It's not about the sun
>Posts image that op picture would look exactly like had it been night time

Fucking kek

Because we do not have any.
Europe is old country, with old buildings.
Cities in Europe are very different from cities in the states, because there are rigid regulations for new buildings to not disturb the city-scape as it is.

>all these seething /pol/tards defending the sun

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Do you really believe that they're going to change anything major?

Because Dredd is pulpy sci-fi and covers a shit tons of areas. What is cyberpunk about the Judge Child arc?

Twice.

Sounds cyberpunk as fuck, but what do I know I have only been trying to tell this idiot, With detailed descriptions of cyberpunk.

Sounds like you would be surprised if you saw my face.

So where does the film show any of that?
We see Motoko performing a political assassination, yes. But for all we know that's a perfectly legal thing to do.

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Not really, because bad taste and ignorannce goes beyond racial boundaries. That looks like any number of spots in Japan showing big cities and a specific area of skyscrapers for example.

Oh yeah, for sure - but the movie doesn't delve into those more out there plots.

She outright says it repeatedly especially about how their bodies are government property and how if they leave or get fired she'll need to get new ones for example. Fuck's sake, do you not listen to the dialogue (or read it if subbed) when you watch films?

It mentions the nuclear wars, the situation with Imperial America and tons of other stuff to establish the setting, plus the whole issue with 2501 getting snatched. Oshii didn't bring too much into the direct plot, but it's there.

the more likely case is that they took inspiration from real life cities, which is why it looks kinda tame. real life cities only look cool and cyberpunk in photos taken by professionals

Oh sorry thought you meant Ghost in the Shell.

Though actually the Dredd film does cover a few things here and there about the stranger stuff; psychics for one big example.

I aware, but that reads more like "it's high quality materiel, it can't be helped", do you not pay attention to the imagery and tone when watching film?

Usually you start with higher quality assets and then scale back to improve performance. If the game looks like ass it will only look worse.

and then you get another shitstorm about le downgrade

Wrong wrong. Gg2ez.

Quite bold for an ESL that can't even spell. And, yeah, that doesn't look even remotely close to HK or Tokyo.

I'd say Fifth Element is a scifi fantasy movie but with heavy inspiration from cyberpunk aesthetics.

First off, dialogue feeds into imagery and ESPECIALLY tone, it's not separate. Second, the imagery and tone in GITS is cyberpunk.

So yes, i do, and I have to question if you do because you're refusing to see blatant stuff right in front of your face and acting like a psuedointellectual about it.

>I would simply prefer a more blade runner style of cyberpunk because its style themes appeal to me more for immersion and storytelling. The game isn't ruined but it doesn't specifically to my taste, oh well.
>OMG REEEEEE HOW YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT CYBERPUNK IS LIKE THE SUN RIGHT KNOW OR I WILL SHITPOST MORE AND MAKE ASSUMPTIONS ABOUT STOP CRITICISING THINGS STOP HAVING NON SAFE
every single time

there are no perfect cyberpunk games out n-

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Nobody gives a fuck if you want blade runner because this is a sequel to cyberpunk 2020. Now kill yourself or strawman elsewhere.

This is V.

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>ESL

A slight misspelling of ignorance does not mark one's identity. Secondly, you're blatantly wrong.

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The Cyberpunk 2020 that was illustrated to look like this?

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Why does it need to look like Hong Kong or Tokyo again?

Why did I move here? I guess it was the weather...

I need more neon jacket collars in my life...

Jesus GTA V doesn't look that bad

Such a bright sunny day.

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so ps4 and xbone gamplay, good will have to buy the pro or x for for better blur

desu that was just one picture, most of the drawings aren't even of the city but characters or equipment

That doesn't look like Blade Runner and Night City canonically looks like this. And tons of different ways as well.

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>this game will be re-released on a more powerful console to get people to buy it twice
Fixed that for you.

Turns out its only nighttime in Night City at night. Who would have thought?

Its almost like real-life is basically cyberpunk at this point

>retards not realizing that there are multiple different Cyberpunk games in the franchise

the 2077 ending means that this is not the same game as 2020, the setting etc. aren't necessarily the same either

Uh...

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>called Night City
>has daytime

I 100% believe this to be the plan, they saw how RockStar double dipped with GTAV

this blur remember the switch ports from panic button

as I remember you can chose to play as a male. His name is V too

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retards who make huge assumptions on the Cyberpunk rpg despite having never even played a tabletop game are my favorites in these threads

Clearly twilight.

Or that Cyberpunk 2020 was an RPG which means it looks radically different depending on who was running the game, and the artist in question and the sourcebook in question because most TTRPGs don't actually demand everything looks XYZ and leaves a ton of stuff up to the game master and the players, especially in R Tal's case because they had tons of different cheap artists working on art for their books.

Hell a huge chunk of 2020's weapons are just real life rifles and such. I'm not going to be frothing because the L85A1 doesn't make it into the game as whatever the fuck it was said to be in the rule book.

>muh silent protagonist
>muh always dark aesthetic
>muh "i like rpgs but hate quests"
Do you honestly think some bumfuck town is going to be Coruscant in 2077? Silent protagonist favoritism is an incel red flag and not wanting to do quests is literally the most retarded thing I've ever heard for an RPG. This board is literally 99.99% of people who hate video games and just want to blow $4000 on a PC for a screenshot as a wallpaper.

Short answer is we don't know. Logical guesses are:
Jackie probably will gift the car to V early on and will likely have performance upgrades and visual customization options.
You might be able to buy new vehicles or steal other people's. But this isn't a GTA game, it's primarily an FPS RPG and I'd expect the car physics and selection to be fairly rudimentary. The'll likely treat the car in a similar manner to how they treated Roach in W3.
Flying vehicles will likely not be pilotable outside of certain missions, I believe CDPR have stated they don't want the player to fly and that may suggest that the city is arranged in a manner that would not make sense when viewed from above.
Trams and busses etc are probably going to be the game's fast travel system.

I'm going to be disappointed if the 2077 doesn't have a 2 MHz mobile (aka suitcase size) computer because the sourcebooks had that

You all realize that we already live in a pre-cyberpunk world, right?

The OP pic is likely what the future will look like. It's unrealistic of us to expect the cyberpunk aesthetic. The same reason it was outrageous that people in the 60s thought the year 2000 was gonna be like The Jetsons.

If anything, CDPR is painting the more realistic picture of the real 2077

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oversaturated blurry trash. looks like a screenshot out of a VR game honestly

Blade Runner was cooler though.

San Fransico, Not Saint Fransico.
Los Angeles, not a bunch of Angels.

WTF what is even with names these days, how can things named something not be something.

Reee not cyberpunk
The sun doesn't exist in cyberpunk ree

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If 2077 isn't dominated by New Wave fashion, I'm gonna be heartbroken.

Actually I wish they would do that but I'm not hopeful.

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user, vaporwave is the reality of living in late capitalism, not the future.

>It's not that the sun exists, it's that it's sunny!
I would think you people are baiting if I didn't know you retards are actually serious.

Stop spamming you fucking retard.

How the fuck are you people still engaging in these circular, pointless fucking arguments? I don't understand. How can you stand wasting so much mental energy and free time arguing over the most TRIVIAL FUCKING SHIT?

Witcher had timeskip mechanics in every game.
You can literally play through the entire game in nighttime if you skip once the run starts rising.
They even showed an interface in V's apartment.

How come CD has shown us so many screenshots of the daytime, and not the nighttime? Surely they've seen the backlash memes and would try to set things straight by showing how cool the city looks in the dark.

As cool as that would be I'm actually happy that the game isn't retro 80s nostalgia, it has been done to death already. I don't really know what 2010's radicoolness looks like but I hope CDPR will figure that out.

Mostly because the 'backlash' literally only exists on Yea Forums and is a bunch of shitposters.

We saw nighttime in the demo. It's fucking awful

I still would like them to go a bit more ARTMIC in their technical design but I do understand where they're coming from.

It looks great. What's wrong with it?

Even Gibson bitchslapped the first trailer my man. The backlash was real.

It's because they are literally working for the company and it's what they came up with it to derail threads

Gibson also praised the gameplay demo.

the biggest backlash was about FPP, everything else was fine

And he then changed his mind.

>No! No one could possibly think that my indignation at there being sun in a game that takes place through a 24 hour cycle is stupid!
>it must all be shills!

1) gibson is known to be eternally bitter about other people doing cyberpunk
2) later he said the gameplay footage looked good

Not that guy but you're really pushing this strawman. Relentlessly. In every thread. Despite people barely even mentioning the sun and shitting on other aspects of the game.

Gibson only changed his mind after everyone jumped him. His first reaction was genuine, and he was right in everything he said in that tweet.

Can't you guys tackle why it will not feel exactly like a gta clone instead. That's what most people here fears

Can already tell this is going to be one of those open world games that get incredibly boring after the story where the only interaction you can get out of NPCs is bumping into them.

Cyberpunk 2020 and 90% of all of it's pictures also looks like this which is reminiscent of the same diarrhea you're trying to accuse Cyberpunk 2077 of being: a GTA with hilarious looking tech.

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Is the MC supposed to have cataracts?

Every Fallout game (except based 4) is exactly like that, yet retards love them.

When will Gibson change his mind about Hilary being the savor that the world needs and was robbed of her chance to shine and save the planet?

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>Gibson has been known to cater to popular opinion.
Shove this thought up your ass.

No one knows, the game hasn't released yet. Being an FPS and having stats are pretty big differences though.

>implying the people complaining have ever even played a tabletop game

Because 1. The sun argument comes up repeatedly. 2. The other arguments are some variety of 'It doesn't look like blade runner/altered carbon/how I want it to look' and then a gaggle of nonsense like 'WHY ISN'T IT THIRD PERSON' and 'V IS A GAY LESBIAN SJW' or 'I've never played a tabletop RPG in my life, let alone 2020, but I wanted to be a cop, why can't i be a cop?" or some variety of that.

The reason why it comes up is because there's a sizeable chunk of shitposters and maybe some actual idiots who have no clue what cyberpunk is or what Cyberpunk 2020 mithering constantly about these fucking issues. And it's dull. So very fucking dull. And they have been doing it constantly since the trailer was released. Now, what's more likely? That CDPR is singling out every single thread at god knows what times on Yea Forums, when the reaction on Yea Forums is mostly quite good to the game outside of idiots who wouldn't know cyberpunk if a machine armed hacker with a mohawk pointed a sawn off chinese clone of a 12 bore in their face and the rest of the internet seems to like it, or maybe, just maybe, sunposting has become a joke in of itself in these threads and doing so highlights how fucking stupid some of these complaints are.

Why do you think it'll be a GTA clone? Because you drive a car? It's set in a city? The bigger risk is that it'll turn out to be to be an Elder Scrolls/Fallout clone.

Or even engaged with any form of cyberpunk media from their complaining.

Pondsmith is a nigger who doesn't understand cyberpunk aesthetics.

>It looks great honestly
>Vaseline filter
>Great

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Post your PC's specs and a shot of what you would consider good graphics now.

>The bigger risk is that it'll turn out to be to be an Elder Scrolls/Fallout clone.
What's so bad about that? TES and Fallout have fully interactive world and NPCs, unlike GTA and FarCry which this game will most likely be like.

why is everyone dressed normally
why is it so bright
why does it look so modern
where's all the purple and teal neon
this is not cyberpunk
this is not schway

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>FPS game
>the gun animation and physics are bad

looks awesome, where can I preorder?

>fully interactive worlds and NPCs.
>Bethesda.

Nice of you to out yourself as a shitposter.

thx bro

What is the actual definition for something to be Cyberpunk, cos i've always viewed stuff like GiTS and Deus Ex as Techno-Thrillers.

"A techno-thriller (also known as technothrillers) is a hybrid genre drawing from science fiction, thrillers, spy fiction, action, and war novels. They include a disproportionate amount (relative to other genres) of technical details on their subject matter (typically military technology); only hard science fiction tends towards a comparable level of supporting detail on the technical side. The inner workings of technology and the mechanics of various disciplines (espionage, martial arts, politics) are thoroughly explored, and the plot often turns on the particulars of that exploration."

Are they? How?

In one of the first mission you have the possibility to choose sides already. If you warn maelstrom gang about the chip, corpo bitch get killed. It have stats and dialogue options, joining faction is not possible but you will probably get to choose on which side you are throughout the story. Open world game in a city doesn't make it gta clone.

>gets BTFO
Responds by namecalling

>a realistic twist on fantasy tropes in a realistic medieval backdrop grows their company to AAA status over 3 games
>people are surprised their new IP isn't heavily stylized and different then real life would be in 2077

that has nothing to do with the game being a gta clone though

Barely anyone in that pic is dressed normally.

It's not bright, it's a smoggy day

It looks modern because it is modern.

They didn't actually feature much in 80s films, that's a fucking meme.

It is cyberpunk.

Whether it's schway remains to be seen.

Why did I move here? Guess it was the weather...

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Alot to do with this: There's also a reason why all other companies with similar games have avoided LA and even nyc at one point for a reason. It's just how it is.

Hey remember when some of the most iconic moments in Robocop took place in grey, industrial settings and corporate rooms during sunny daylight?

I do.

Seeing as the Witcher 2 and 3 avoided this, I'm going to say I'm doubtful.

Here's your express healthcare, Bro

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Most people dress normally in Robocop

>almost all items are movable
>moved item retains it's position
>each NPC has their own inventory space
>each NPC has their own game objectives and equal amount of stats to the player
>can go anywhere at any point of the game
>outfit, weapon, and magic customization

>pew pew sfx
>weak animation
>little to no recoil
>aimbot as a gameplay feature

Cyberpunk doesn't have solid defining features, but there's a few elements which crop up consistently in cyberpunk works that I would consider essential. Others may argue otherwise but they're wrong.

1. Near future setting. This is a must and a good way to help define a work as cyerpunk rather than a crime focused space opera or such. FTL and aliens don't really fit into the genre, except as maybe a mention or a possibility (see Neuromancer with contacting signals sent by alien AI right at the end as a 'woah' moment).

2. Focus plot/character wise on elements of society or individuals who are considered lower end, sketchy, criminal, etc. Can be cops engaging with them or journalists or focused on the criminals themselves, but there's got to be the grime in place.

3. A HEAVY focus on network and information technology either to help resolve/cause problems or focused on in the plot. Either the protagonists are using this tech or the istuation is caused by this tech, or something related to it, but it's got to be there.

Those three are the key elements I feel from spending far too much time reading/watching cyberpunk stuff. These elements crop up time and time again. The rest of the stuff is common, but not vital to the genre and exists in other stuff. You can have sci-fi stories set about criminal hackers huge cities hunted down by cyborg cops in many a sci-fi story, but no one is calling the The Long Arm of Gil Hamilton cyberpunk.

It sounds like techno-thrillers are how a story is set up and the details of the technology are a big part of it. I think a techno-thriller can totally take place in the cyberpunk genre.

Cyberpunk is a subgenre of science fiction in a futuristic setting that tends to focus on a "combination of lowlife and high tech"[1] featuring advanced technological and scientific achievements, such as artificial intelligence and cybernetics, juxtaposed with a degree of breakdown or radical change in the social order.

Not all Cyberpunk can be techno-thriller tho.

>Subjective
>subjective
>subjective, plus mostly starting guns
>Smartguns and having them wired into your body have been part of cyberpunk literature since the early 80s and are literally something you can buy in 2020.

Try again.

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>Almost all items are movable but you can't do shit with them.
>Retains its own position, unless it glitches into nothingness or flies across the map room
>Every NPC has their own inventory space. But there's only eight of them per town.
>This is a lie.
>Why can't you do this in 2077? Did you play the game already?
>Can't customize outfits since morrowind, weapons not really customisable, and magic is picking from a list since morrowind.

Yeah, not seeing it.

>Only eight of them per town.

This. Fuck's sake, i don't see why so many people whine about this. I far preferred having a populated city that felt real in Witcher 3 to having a dozen or so people with dialogue you can exhaust in five minutes unless they have a quest attached to them in Skyrim making up the nation's capital.

None of that shit actually matters though, aside from going anywhere and the outfit, etc. But in TES, the go anywhere actively hurts you because they scale it so you can go anywhere and do anything at any level so to avoid people not going through Todd howard's themepark ride quest design.

Also in vanilla TES games since Morrowind you've got barely any customisation of your outfit. Skyrim was appaling in this.

NOONE GAVE A SHIT ABOUT THE SUN IN DEUS EX MD WHILE WALKING THROUGH PRAGUE

>ALPHAS LOOK 100% IDENTICAL TO FINAL VERSIONS XD

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>robocop isn't cyberpunk

>screen from russian version
Obligatory:
youtube.com/watch?v=IP9Av6f_xDY

Still better than CP2077 which only has one armor slot.

Okay

What about Angel Cop then?

Yo Mikawa is literally a street punk who was recruited by the cops

Who says cops can't be punks? Even in real life the difference comes down to the uniform and haircut.

>Who says cops can't be punks? Even in real life the difference comes down to the uniform and haircut.

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You do realize that you can be a corporate scumbag or a literal COP in Cyberpunk 2020 P&P game right?

So no, not better.

How are you so fucking dense? What about Oedo? What about Robocop?

Day 1 pirate

user, just because some cops gunned down a few negroes doesn't mean you should start licking their boots.

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I really don't get the hate for the sun.
Cyberpunk does have to be night time only.

link very related
Ignore shitty mutt dub

youtube.com/watch?v=xFSw6OayIpg

THe reason why Cyberpunk looks like trash is not the sun, its the open world GTA rip off with americans. Everyone is t ired of them and open world steal car shoot gu theme

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For all we know it's illegal because Aramaki pretends not to recognize her.

What is this, some building work in tottenham court road?

Pretty sure it's not legal, hence why Motoko was asked to do it.

This is not the cyberpunk future I wanted. But its the one we all got. Kind of bad timeline...

the hate for the sun is 99% trolls and 1% idiots with dumb expectations

>tfw can't be a cop in CP2077
man FUCK CDPR

>GitS is not cyberpunk go away
you fuckin wut

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you just don't like it when things are good

>Open world GTA rip off.

Where does it look like GTA? Where do you steal a car in the demo? Why couldn't a cyberpunk protagonists steal a car? Since when did GTA have a monopoly on cars and cities and open world stuff?

>With Americans.

Plenty of cyberpunk is set in America.

the part at 0:37 in the akira video looks the same as picture

>it's not a REAL rpg if I can't kill every npc with the story accounting for that

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R Talsorian had to put out a whole sourcebook on running cop campaigns because people didn't like having cop characters due to the problems of having law enforcement in their street mercenary crime gang.

funnily enough you can't steal cars in 2077

you can tho

Even the TTRPG 2020 outright encouraged GMs to party wipe with the Cyber Psycho Squad if they got too careless.

Well, that's a bit strange but fair enough. Which makes the whole DIS A GTA RIP OFF even MORE stupid.

GTA certainatly had a lot on influence in open world games and the shitt "wow you can steal cars and shut guns in an open city!"

Ever since GTA SA exploded almost every western company has tried to implement some sort of vehicle (whether it be horse, car, bike, etc) and open world with shitty fetch quests.

Only a zoomer who didnt grow before GTA era did not feel this phenomen.

That's not what I'm saying, and fuck off with the zoomer nonsense, I'm probably older than you.

being loosely influenced by GTA =/= loking like GTA
looking like GTA =/= being a GTA ripoff

>OMG THE GAME IS NOT SET A NIGHT LIKE MY FAVORITE HARRISON FORD MOIVE WITH TALKING HOLOGRAM LADY! THIS IS NOT CYBERPUNK

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And it's 2019. I think it's time we moved beyond calling every open world game a GTA clone.

>what is day and night cycle

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Is Cyberpunk 2077 the Dark Souls of GTA?

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>I'm probably older than you

if you were it wouldnt be something to be proud of

>current year

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Why are her elbows and knee's all red and bruised? Did she trip and fall?

yet every year there's always a western company realeasing at LEAST ONE open world game with steal vehicle / shoot gun / fetch quest

When you're accusing me of being wrong because I wasn't around when GTA first came out on PC, let alone GTA III or such, that's a point to bring up. And I mention the year not to make a 'CURRENT YEAR' thing but to point out it's been almost two decades since GTA III came out.

too much anal

dark souls of open world

Why don't we call GTA a TES clone? You could steal horses and stuff in Daggerfall and it was a huge open world dominated by fetch quests, go here, kill that, etc.

thanks user. I called out the bright sunny days when the trailer was released. it makes no sense to call it cyberpunk. also at the time everything was squeaky clean.

yes and?

This. We don't call every FPS a wolfenstein/doom clone.

Rough mating press.

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>OP doesn't mention the sun
>just posts a screenshot showing how bland and shitty the design is
>this cuck attempts to strawman with the sun anyway
Every time
See

Is GTA the Wolfenstein of the Elder Scrolls?

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GTA III didnt set the open world meme
TES didnt set the open world meme.
Not even Driver 2 did this. It was the ghetto ass GTA SA and its "10/10 OMG GOTY FREEDOM" sandbox shit

No, it's the Metroid of the Ultima series.

>I called out the bright sunny days when the trailer was released.
yeah thats why you are a meme now

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Why doesn't OP's image look like a cyberpunk city? What has been the number one complaint about this game from shitposters like you?

there's literal smog in the OP's picture. Combine a beating sun with no ozone layer to a smoggy polluted city and it's already as close as can be.

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Cyberpunk 2077 is argably the first open-world game to put huge more emphasis on smart gameplay pacing.

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Idono man neoliberals on the west coast are getting out of control. I would call our timeline Neo Liberalcuck. It's not like the right is leading us in a much better direction, but the right is leading us to a more traditional cyberpunk where corporations rival the government in power.

What video are you guys even talkin about in this thread

You're complaining it's not neo-noire enough, not cyberpunk, so get your definitions right. This game is cyberpunk but not very noire during the day, during the night it will look more noire.

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Youtube comments-tier CDPR cocksucking going on there buddy

all of them

>neo-noir cuckold appears
Neo-noir is Cyberpunk. Die mad about it retard.

Cyberpunk 2077 is argably the first open-world game to put huge more emphasis on smart gameplay pacing.
but is it a good thing?

Alphaville isn't cyberpunk.