Physical media is better because its yours forev-

only reason to own a microwave

>he thought disc rot was a lie

>Lifespan of a DVD is only 100-200 years
Absolutely pathetic.

what good does it to make the data layer biodegradable if it is still stuck to a disk of plastic that isnt?

only affects poorly made CDs and CDs that people leave out in the open in the sun for 3 years straight

If you experience disc rot, you're doing something wrong yourself and should just kill yourself tbqh

Most humans don't even live beyond 85

Based

>metal

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t. Non-vamp normie

Which is why GoG as an alternative is nearly infinitely better. Along with digitally accessed installers that you can download and keep forever by transferring them along the internet or external hard drives, they function literally identical to how a CD would if you keep your games in a USB where the access to your games is relative to how much you care for your hardware.

I will.

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>not wannting to preserve your video games for your great grandkids

I'm sure they'd love to play your boring games, and definetly not put them in a box in a damp cellar

>thinking you can prevent disc rot from happening
nothing is permanent in this world

oh so when you want to warm up leftovers you turn the oven on and wait 40 minutes for slice a of lasagna?

what are you, one of them boomer dummys who believe the facebook memes about microwave radiation turning your food into a carcinogen?

>shitty production = tech is bad
based retard

yo, they should start printing video games on cum stains. I accidentally busted on my bathroom door 30 years ago and that shit is still there.

Not forever, but a hell of a lot longer than digital.

My cartridge of Super Mario World still works. While the version I bought on Wii is gone.

>metal

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that's not even that - it's the shitty manufacturers that are jewing their hearts out on materials (using thinner layer / shittier metal composition that's highly sensitive to dust/vapor/slight temp fluctuations)

If done right that shit would last half-a-century.

>metal

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you have to be 18 years or older in order to not post retarded shit
>inb4 hurr-durr this is just bait, bro

>not having a pirated drm free copy of your favorite stuff, packaged along with every shit you need to run it, from patches, mods, to the OS itself; backed up on at least 3 different devices, one of which being in a far away location form the other two, and a device that can read those shits (like floppy drives and ancient mobo and shit with IDE connector)

you plebs are the reason shits going extinct. i bet you dont even archive your shit you like off the internet. i pity the fools whose favorite pron artist nuked their shit off the net.

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>drm-free is better because it's yours forever
fixed

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>metal

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is this actually the avg level of intelligence enn/v/i?

>stumble across boner obsidian
>more at my tumblr (closed)
>more at my pixiv (user not found)
>support me on Patreon (dead link)

A despairing feel.

>metal

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Lasts longer than Steam will.

normal disks are all-metal, if properly pressed they won't die in a long time. CD-R and DVD-R are biodegradable because the material needs to be writable

>using a Mac
You get what you deserve, hipster trash.

The absolute fucking state of zoomers on this board

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You're just jealous of this design.

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used to back when my hard drive was 320GB.
Not so much anymore - the only reason to have those for archival purposes is if you'd want to keep your data secure after EMP discharge (and even then I'm not sure if the aluminum will survive the process unscathed - i remember seeing some paper on how electro-magnetism could cause some outburst shit that can physically deform metal)

The labels aren't metal.

>A CD is made from 1.2 millimetres (0.047 in) thick, polycarbonate plastic

the metal was eaten through, in addition to the label?

as an astronomer, i can safely say: every part of the CD is metal

it's the metal layer that got crumbled on OP's picrelated, you absolute mong

not an option for OP

More like jelly of your baldness lmao

congratulations, you can read the first sentence, now work those 2 brain cells you have extra hard and read the rest too. you can do it!

hint: the relevant parts are enclosed by bright red squares.

When are my PS1 CDs supposed to start rotting again?

I just played through my copy of Battle Arena Toshinden from 1995 and it still works fine.

actually I take that back.
Since you can buy roughly 3-4GBs of WD's Blue Desktop HDD per each GB of DVD/BD, then the most secure and cheapest way for long-term back-up of your data is buying 3 times as much of hard-drive storage, making a shadow-copy of your working drive and then storing your back-up hdd safely in faraday cage (the one that's dense enough to withstand EMP discharge from the nuke)

entropy comes for us all

>clone.iso of games from original cd/dvds
>burns them onto 100gb M-DISC Blu-Rays
Nothin' personnel.

also it's the most convenient way, since juggling DVDs and even BD between the DVD case and the optical drive tray is pain in the ass time-wise.

Until it breaks or you can't run it on modern systems anymore.

I can already see it's a shit tier cheap press where data layer and label is the same layer
good disk has data layer surrounded by plastic and label printed on that plastic

er

Just write a new disk

Most chips used in NES/SNES cartridges have data burn into the chip and and will last for a very long time if properly stored while newer flash memory carts will last a few decades, and they deteriorate while being used. Floppies and other magnetic media has bit rotted for every second since they were created.
Physical game collectors will have a pile of useless plastic by the time they reach old age if they don't keep backing everything up. Sell your shit to scalping ebay retards and make digital backups.

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>impying we aren't an emergent "things" formed by pure chance though random distribution of particles in a "unifrom" heat-dead universe.

when even the last black hole sputters out, and there's nothing left, quantum mechanics dictates that the base "vacuum" of the universe while on average is "zero" it still has peaks and valleys, ever changing, and given enough time, said peaks and valleys can arrange to be the same as a self aware being, created and made from "nothing"
youtube.com/watch?v=Pld8wTa16Jk&t=35m55s

>i have to suffer through this life again

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Maybe he doesn't like eating disgusting repulsive shit

I mean it's still his.

no shit, sherlock - this whole thread is made by a retard/bait poster.

Here's an example of a good DVD - 15 years old and it still is good as new (though you have to grab a nodvd off the internets in order to launch the game)

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Do you know how religious you sound? If I hadn't been raised by christian parents I wouldn't notice a difference.

>metal

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it's much simpler than that - the dark matter pushes away energy-potent visible matter untill it cools down completely (universal heat death) and then the same dark matter pulls everything back together, until it's squeezed hard enough to gain the energy back for a singularity #27

>metal
>picture of dog

carbon-based life is a meme anyway

>metal

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no wonder, there's humbling shit all around us and it makes me euphoric

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>humbling
that's just Saturn rising over the horizon of.. Titan, i think
Do you also have a heart attack over watching complete solar eclipse or the neutron stars gotta-go-fast spinning at close?

>deletes and sues your ROM sites which have catalogued thousands of rare, rotting games and gives you no good alternatives in return

heh, nothing personnel, kid

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>neutron stars gotta-go-fast spinning
disregard that

>I can steal my copies somewhere else but you can't do that with physical games ok
the absolute state.

nah, its dark energy which pushes stuff apart: its a property of space, a constant one, so a unit of space have the same amount
as space expands, there's more space, thus more dark energy, thus it accelerates the expansion

the catch however, is that its weak as shit, and if theres enough matter in a given unit of space, their gravity will overpower dark energy, so even as space expands between those things, gravity will pull it together faster than the space between them expands. there wont be more space, between them, thus there wont be more dark energy pushing them apart either, so gravity remains the dominant force.

And we are talking in the scale of galaxies here.
so i the "end", our galaxy will stay together and we could see see its stars from earth (if either those didnt already got destroyed), we just couldn't see any of the other galaxies.

>metal

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>good alternatives
no alternatives. At all. I can't buy super ninja boy anywhere. Period. I can't legally purchase or acquire it in any way shape or form.

i cream my pants just gazing at the moon my fella

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I came to say you can make things last alomost forever if you take care of them properly but you were so retarded it got me hard

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ok, if we want to be literate: the dark matter-emitted dark energy is what pushes stuff apart, which only occurs in the energy-potent systems (not to spoil the dark energy / observable energy interaction - humanity is yet to discover that - in layman's terms they just bounce off each other, but when there's no energy to be emitted by observable matter, the expansion would stop).
As soon as the observable system will get completely still, the same dark energy will via spiral movement pull everything together, causing the matter collision and the new cycle of observable energy accumulation. When it accumulates to a critical point, it will outburst again into a new wave of star-forming / galaxy expanding cycle.
It's all about the spirals and cycles, man1

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desu i'd actually enjoy living the life of naivety of yours

>literate
pardon, *literal

The data is stored on the metal part you dumb goblin

Flash deteriorates from being written, not read. Flash hard drives might not last that long but flash ROM is pretty safe.

ITT floods, fires, or any other kind of disaster don't exist.
Anything and everything you own could be taken away in an instant. Data can only be preserved with multiple copies in separate locations, but you can't make copies of modern physical games.

>Buy modern physical game
>Disc just contains steam to download the game
lol physcucks

Yep. All me.

Nothing lasts forever

>boner
What

>metal

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tell me i'm not seeing evidence of people not knowing how fucking optical media works.

You can still play those games if you have them downloaded

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optical_media_preservation

>Data is retrieved by both CDs and DVDs by devices that focus a laser light beam against the reflective layer allowing data to be read. The data layer, supported by the polycarbonate substrate can be metallic or dye-based, depending on the disc type.

>can be metallic

how does it feel to get blown the fuck out?

ABSOLUTELY FUCKING SEETHING
HAHAHAHAHAHHAHA

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>Buy modern physical game
Heheheh fukken digitalcucks
>It hardly works without a downloadable patch

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I don't get why people love data donuts so much, it's literally just the cheapest option possible at the buyer's expense
Hard to justify nintendo for a lot of the bullshit they pull but at least they still cartridges now that data circles are obsolete

mad :)

>If I don't take care of my things, they'll break!

News flash OP. Nothing lasts forever.

they're americlaps - it's okay to be uneducated there

college is nothing more than an adult daycare center. kids get their grades and colleges get their money. that's all it is anymore, man.

3DS/DS game cards do save data writes to EEPROMs that could eventually fail but you'd have to put in some serious game time to reach the 1000000+ cycles or whatever they're rated for.

hahaha holy fuck
amerilards really are complete retards

Misinterpretation, I meant the other user that repeatedly kept samefagging, BUT I won't deny that most americans are uneducated fat fucking NEET pieces of trash.

Meanwhile, my half-life cd is fine and running.

>M-DISC
based if not larping

I'll just insert my P.T disc

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kek

Fucking based

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>all these zoomers don't even know how CDs work anymore
I wonder how you'll explain VHS.

better get a microwave then

>mistreating your shit
>bitching and moaning about your own fucking idiocy on the internet
Here's an anecdote you can stick up your ass retard op:
I have hundreds of cheap burnable DVDs (far from golden archival Kodak CDs standard) that are roughly 2 decades old and still flawlessly readable.
Stored properly in dark and dry storage they'll last long, long time.

This is assuming that you take the dark matter hypothesis to be true, something which the guy who proposed the damn thing doesn't any more and instead supports a modified gravity equation.

tapes are easy, since it's hip to be retro (for some reason the sales of cassette tapes and vinyls has skyrocketed in recent years)

the funny thing is, i've been burning CDs since SCSI cd-rom drives first came out in the mid 90s

and I used the archival media, stuff like taiyo yuden, the best available on the market

and guess what...a lot of that shit is disentigrating now after being kept in hard cases in the dark in fancy city apartment buildings with no moisture or humidity.

disc rot happens period. optical discs are not an archival format.

The metal you speak of is encased in the fucking plastic, the image only shows a degraded label.

>The metal you speak of is encased in the fucking plastic, the image only shows a degraded label.

think real hard about whether you can see through commercially produced CDs anonymous

people on this board have actually gotten so fucking dumb lol

Am I just a slob? I don't remember them being in this bad of a state and my brothers bought it without the push cd thing so that's why there's motherfucking cracks on it. Always wondered why

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>turning your grandkids into a fucking loser

chads or brads are literally the way to go

>burning cheap CD's
there is your problem user.

my brothers bought it without the push cd thing so that's why there's motherfucking cracks on it.

what?

the scratches are from someone rubbing it on a tshirt in a circular motion. when you clean optical disks you go in a straight line from the middle to the outside edge, over and over at every angle

>optical discs are not an archival format.
Golden archival media rated for 100+ years under specified conditions beg to differ.

What is archival format?
Tapes are out of the question for common folk because of the price.
Stone tablets have low data density.
Juggling data on HDDs whether spinning rust or SSD might seem ok till some fuck up doesn't fry both of your copies or by some retarded action you catch a crypto virus.

>buy physical game
>have to download a 60gb patch and without it doesn't work

>the scratches are from someone rubbing it on a tshirt in a circular motion.

Fuck that's probably it. I still don't know how the manual came apart of where the "push to eject" plastic mechanism is. Explains the cracks on the CD though.

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people were always this fucking dumb its just that now everyone is on the internet and mob rule is more important than it used to be in the days when the only people on the internet were introverts

it doesnt help that zoomers are way worse at jumping on bandwagons than people used to be. back when i was 14 was before postmodern rhetoric had taken over the internet and people used arguments like 'you're on the wrong side of history' which isn't to say that it didnt exist but it wasn't fucking everywhere like it is now

>taiyo yuden
only the laziest orangutans wouldn't try to forge that shit
this fucker right here was some of the best stuff the consumer-tier market would offer in terms of reliability without the price going ballistic.

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>Golden archival media rated for 100+ years under specified conditions beg to differ.

it's not "rated for 100+ years" that's advertising bullshit straight from the manufacturer. has any of it been around for fucking 100 years? lol.

honest question, what do you think that is? i'll give you 3 guesses who made the disc

You can make a physical copy of the compact disc or dvd or blue ray disc and you can save the image file.

>not having a convection oven

Lmao

>has any of it been around for fucking 100 years?
I suggest you read up on various testing being done not only on optical media.
Thinking something can't be rated for decades / hundred years because they didn't leave it lying somewhere in the hot jungle for that long is stupid.
Here's a good starting point:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accelerated_life_testing

>stone tablet
>he doesn't have a printer
look at this faggot

libraryofbabel.info/referencehex.html

>what do you think that is?
define "that"
Is that CD-R? Verbatim CD-R? Taio Yuden CD-R?

Over the years I've found Sony CD/DVDs to be better than Verbatim, as far as easy-to-get ones.

All media is physical. Your hard drives will fail sooner than discs will rot.

they were overpriced as fuck in my area
as weird as it might sound for you, but the same manufacturer can produce several tiers of products and the "verbatim" brand statistically was the most reliable (especially when bought from chain stores) and least prone to forgery by jewish chinks.

it's marketing gibberish dude.

the verbatim blue cd-rs from the 90s and early 2000s (they have not been good for many years)

But you can redownload digital onto other hard drives as long as your account exists. aka forever unless you get banned

right, let me just download all my megaupload and rapidshare backups.
in the meantime, i think i'll try some of my XP exclusive steam games too.
darn, that will take a while, do you want to play some halo 2 on games for windows live? maybe some jedi academy over gamespy? or the evergreen battlefields?

That's a moot point because why would you download entire backups instead of downloading specific games you want to play at a given time?

>buyfags somehow convinced that a physical object has a longer lifespan than a digital computer file
what the fuck guys

>metal

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right, sorry, let me just download specific games i want to play right now from meguapload

or specific XP exlusive games with steam DRM i want to play right now

or play specific games i pointed out in my post

then what are you worried about?

based

They got blown the fuck out.

Literally will affect all discs eventually

My old CDs that I burned myself have also all died.

But this doesn't happen to pressed CD"s afaik.

>digital
>in any way long term reliable

Do you think hard drives live forever?

Properly stored microfilm/microfiche are still some of our best preservation methods.

Moths can eat CDs?

What the egg heads doing the tests say and what marketing apes blow out their asses may be wildly different, look at the car emission jewing.
>discs dissolve into thin air in

There is no such thing as chance.

>metal

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look at the way he formatted this post, with the little period at the end too. He really thought this was funny

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>you have moths that eat metal?
Electric Angels are rock not metal

haha put me in the screencap reddit!! xDD

i am a certified, verified retarded american and i can fully say without the highest doubt i am seething so hard right now, i am so retarded, dumb and uneducated god damn it fuck american education and fuck trump lol

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> steal
Wrong. Copyright is theft. Piracy is freedom.

one day I let my friend borrow super mario galaxy for a couple months. I ask for said game back, and what i got was fucking disgusting.
>he lost the case and gave the game back in a ps3 case
>the disc was scratched the fuck up it looked like it went through hell
>the game case looked like it had shit stains on it
yeah fuck him, he was a low life actually, and stop talking to him afterwards.

Are you a robot?

Reminder that Nintendo wins again.

Sony thought short-term. Nintendo were thinking in CENTURIES, perhaps even MILLENNIA.

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>a little dust gets in your console
>doesn't work

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