Is Ace Combat the Metal Gear Solid of Air Force games?

4, 5, Zero and X. 6 is also good if you have an xbox. 4 emulates the worst, you might have to run it in software mode.

>Pirating AC7
Solitary!
Have fun, user. Hope you like it enough to consider buying it when you get the money.

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Enjoy it user.
It is a really good game.

No.
Ace Combat is good.

Finally my collection is complete.
I wonder when the DLC for this game is coming out.

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Hope you enjoy it user

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rest are bad? what about assault horizon?

Emulate the 3DS game if you can
Play the fan translated version of 3's Japanese release

2 is pretty good, but dated.
3 is great if you're playing the Japanese version with the translation patch. It's just a completely different game in terms of tone and atmosphere
>Ass Horizon
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
It's an "okay" action game, but an awful AC game.

2 is good too. 1 isn't that good since they were trying to figure out how things worked. 3 has a good story but the actual gameplay isn't very good. X2 is shit. AH is shit. ACI was alright sometimes but it was also shit sometimes and it doesn't matter anyway since you can't play it anymore.

2 is good
3 is great
Assault Horizon Legacy (the 3DS game) is great
Assault Horizon is bad but has a good soundtrack
X2 is mediocre

summer

2 and the Japanese version of 3 are worth a shot.
I didn't care for Assault Horizon Legacy on 3DS.
Assault Horizon is an entirely different beast. It's not Ace Combat but you may enjoy it if you disengage your expectations.
Skip the rest.

Also, ACHL is a remake of 2 with better visuals and gameplay But a much worse soundtrack. Seriously, the AC2 OST alone makes it worth playing over the remake imo.

Gonna pirate it too but if it's any good I'll buy it.

Where are the cracks?

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>built around *teleports behind you* special move
>better gameplay

I will.

No. Too weeb to be a MGS.

Eh, AC2 feels a little squirrely to me. ESPECIALLY compared to the really weighted, momentum heavy feel of AC3.

MGS has its share of weeb moments user. Probably more so than AC.

Someone here said the cracks are out already, but I can't find it.

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Same. I love Ace Combat and really wanted to support it on PC but I live in a shitty country and the economy is worse than ever right now

AC3 feels much too heavy in my opinion. So does AHL (so as to balance manoeuvres, I guess).

MGS story is not deep only confusing.

Yeah. I'm playing through it for the first time myself and it takes a lot of getting used to. That canyon flight level was the most nerve-wracking one in the series, imo.

Cyborg ninjas and roaring giant mecha dinosaurs aren't weeb?

Why is the Ace Combat community so fucking comfy? Seriously, you guys are so good to new players.

Look at this and tell me you still don't have MGS vibes.

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Same here, but if it's really good I can spare 40 euros to support the devs and hopefully get more AC games on PC.

I'm gonna get some AC games on PS2 as well but they're really hard to find in Western-Europe for some reason.

Otacon thinks otherwise.

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best trailers of all time coming through

youtube.com/watch?v=f0oNVr3k6kY
youtube.com/watch?v=uzBO0XV6Jps
youtube.com/watch?v=iWRdMX1VaZA

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This one's so cheesy, but I love it so much
youtube.com/watch?v=kAFQocWA-CA
I've never played AC6, either. I really want to.

If this is a serious question, then airplanes will have missile loadout appropriate for their sortie, if in (now exceptionally rare) circumstances you run out of missiles (which rarely miss for both sides) and are still flying most if not all fighter configurations will still allow GUNSGUNSGUNS.

SOP for the RAF is pilot's discretion for immediate dogfight scenarios and in all others yes fucking get back, you're flying a multi-million dollar coffin at this point, find a fucking way back.

The ACZ trailer is such fucking Kino.

>People say they're playing a cracked version ITT
>The internet says I need to wait for a crack

Which one of you is lying?

That Zero trailer is unironically acekino

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If Arsenal birds were Osean, then why didn't they know its capabilities and how come it used drones.

>(which rarely miss for both sides)
so once you get shot at you are dead? are airforce all suicide missions?

Japanese devs make the best games when they are trying to be Western but not holding back throwing Japanese flavor in them like MGS or DMC.

Trying to be 100% Western only results in a disaster though.

>everyone hypes Arsenal Birds as nearly indestructible and needing Stonehenge or an entire navy/air force firing at once to kill
>turns out all you have to do to kill one is shoot the hooks at the bottom and then destroy the core
Seriously, it takes like 6 missiles and you're done. If you were allowed to damage the hooks before being told to you could have killed the one in mission 3 in like a minute.

Someone made a pretty neat fan trailer for an HD collection
youtube.com/watch?v=ssSG5kwSSG4
Sure it's basically just an AMV with radio chatter pasted over it, but it's a testament to how fucking rad the series is that I still get hyped over it, despite knowing it's fake.

IIRC, Missiles in real life are fucking impossible to avoid, pretty much. They're shot from further away, too.

Are you forgetting the bigass shield they project?
Without Avril and co. sabotaging the ISEV all those missiles wouldn't have done a thing.

It takes forever for them to turn the shield on though. You could easily kill them before they could get it up.

Only reminds me of MGS4 and that was the black sheep of the series.

it was cracked by cpy like a week ago

is there a good resource for emulator / rom setups for AC4-5-0 (those are the ones I see suggested the most), I remember PCSX2 being kind of a crapshoot the last time I set it up, can only assume it's still got some kinks.

That's fine user. You just enjoy AC

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Air combat these days is more about who detects the enemy first and fires their BVRAAM first.

Arsenal Bird has self-repair I believe. Judging from the APS unit being more than just a forcefield unit, it repairs the main propellers as well

Where is the link for the CPY crack?
Because all the torrents I see are saying the game needs to be cracked yet.

What about this?

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Could you do that without the meta knowledge?

I think what gives MGS and AC such similar vibes are both games' directors come across as very anti-war but take their love of military hardware to fetishist levels.

google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=ace combat cpy crack

use your brain next time

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It doesn't seem to repair itself in mission 19 when you wreck it.
Didn't Osea build them? Surely someone should know how they're designed.

Very sorry user,

As a way to make up for things I'll play it right away and let others know what I think.

Play with controller or without?

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Daily reminder that AC7 is a stepping stone for a new console adaption like AC4 and combining it together with AC5 elements. AC8 will be guaranteed as PA's magnum opus by combining AC0 and AC3 elements.

Controller, expert controls

Have fun user

Can we have a playable Nighthawk this time? Don't make it only show up as an enemy plane, that shit is not on.

If you let the Bird fly along, you'll notice that the main propellers will spin again, which can be considered as a form of regeneration to some extent. Take mission 3 for example, blow up all main and sub props. Once the shields are up, the main propellers start up to continue giving the Bird the propulsion it needs

Of course

Basically, fighters don't get in big furballs. The standard way something goes is that aircraft are detected, your fighters are directed onto their course by AWACS or a ground-based counterpart, they try to engage out of visual range or otherwise from as far away as possible and either get their kills or scare off the enemy, either way they then break contact. It's unlikely for most aircraft these days to even get in range for any BFM stuff and if they do, flip a fucking coin. NATO doctrine is better and generally so are their sensors and weapon systems, but Russian designs place more of an emphasis on maneuverability which might give them an edge in knife fights if one ever actually happens.

Yeah this. Nicely said.

Technically Osean, but it's got Grunder Industries' fingerprints all over it even before the hijacking.

This. Both series are deeply rooted in the long tradition of soldier pride and anti-war messages, but do not shy away from fascination with military world and gear. The two are conflicting and that conflict creates an enticing mix of boyish and manly (WOW COOL ROBOTS killed my squadmates who were like brothers to me). It's pretty cool to be honest.

Most pilots eject on time I think.

Just beat 0 not too long ago and basically Belka did nothing wrong. Them nuking themselves 7 times is like if America was invaded tomorrow and we nuked LA or NYC just to show we're not fucking around. What's funny is they nuked themselves to prevent an invasion of North Belka and that's exactly what happened.

5 did make the event sound more badass though with the talks of "Cities being evaporated" and Pops going AWOL out of sheer disgust, but then we see it for real and they just nuked some mountain ranges and only killed about 12000 hillbillies and villagers.

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I wish we got a little inkling as to who was piloting the Arsenal Bird, how big the crew was, maybe even have some radio chatter coming from it.

After seeing Sol squadron break formation (they do the same maneuver that the drones do the first time you encounter them) I expected there to be a mastermind behind the drones that never really came to fruition, they just kinda became independant and that's it.

Belka started it when they invaded Ustio.

Fuck Osea though, opportunistic harpies.

Started it up boys, the story so far is pretty damn good, voice acting is very high quality, cutscenes are incredibly well done.

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It's goofy, cheesy melodrama, so I guess it's similar in that respect. The camp is definitely what makes both series so endearing.

There's no crew in the arsenal birds as far as we're aware, they're entirely autonomous.

That's par for the course in Ace Combat.

That's what it lead me to believe, but it really takes the mustard off the hotdog by making you just fight a bunch of mindless drones at the end. The buildup is fine, but Schroeder needed to become a villain or SOMETHING needed to happen to raise the stakes in the last 2 missions.

Yeah, if you only damage it. If you destroy the core then that's it, it's dead.
Fairly certain it's unmanned. Big UCAV carrying small UCAVs. No need to worry about people getting bored circling a space elevator for years.

>Belka invades Ustio
>Let's annex half of Belka
Burn Osea to the ground.

Spot on.

>

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>Them nuking themselves 7 times is like if America was invaded tomorrow and we nuked LA or NYC just to show we're not fucking around.
More worse, it was the Belkan Supremacists like the Grey Men that more likely to suggest this kind of shit.

Osea already jewed Belka out of a significant portion of western Belka before the war even began.

Ustio and Sapin did nothing wrong. They left peacefully and on fair terms. Belka was wrong to invade them. But Osea were underhandedly belligerent all along.

>Caring about Literally whUstio
Grew fat on rightful Belkan resources and used the profits to put a God Tier ace on payroll.

For real though, Belka was clearly the aggressor, but it becomes a defensive battle where they start hemorrhaging territory real quick. Funny how everyone was so nonchalant about them loading up bombers with nuclear payloads multiple missions in a row until they finally manage to detonate some of them.

For me it felt nice since from the previous missions you could tell the drones were starting to get too uppity for their own good.
Stuff like hacking other nearby drones in order to call in reinforcements and stuff, even while their creator looked on.
So that big villain was instead their potential or threat of being fully autonomous ace-level flying nightmares.

I do think it could have been presented better though, with the drones themselves getting some sort of rudimentary speech and character by the end. Even better if they start recognizing the three stripes and develop some sort of AI hatred for Trigger.

But that's kind of pivotal. The entire idea is that the war has fairly literally become a living beast in its own right. It's the old metaphor of 'fighting the war, not the enemy' being taken pretty directly because the war has become capable of actively perpetuating itself.

>anti-war
Until you play AC5, at least. Time to kill some fucking Belkans.

>deliberately sabotaged Belka’s economy
>pushed Belka to desperation and chimping out
>end up annexing south Belka
Fuck Osea

I want to play as Belkan MC at least in the next AC installment

Yea, I was kind of expecting during the radio chatter in mission 20 from the drones for them to make out some kind of dialogue showing rudimentary linguistic application, instead it's just garbled trash. I'm not sure if that really would have made the story better, it would be a pretty big shark to jump, but mission 20 in particular had very little juice. It was a total letdown my first time through as I just got the raptor and didn't realize how bad it was going to dumpster those drones.

What is the AC equivalent of this scene?

youtu.be/dGMda7AivRY?t=339

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I don't want Belkans in the next game. They've gone from being a nation to being a parody of themselves. If they can't write them properly don't write them at all.

Solid 7/10 for me
-1 for sub par story
-1 for bland cast
-1 for playing as an Os*an nigger

The resources were Ustio's. Ustio wished to self determine and that right was granted by Belka. Ustio did nothing wrong, and Belka was wrong to invade them.

But it was Osea who stole the Great Lakes. When the invasion of Ustio was thwarted, Osea prolonged the war by invading Belka. When the Hydrian Line was breached and Excalibur was destroyed, Belka was ready to negotiate. But Osea had come for their pound of flesh and broke the non-aggression treaty by continuing their invasion of Belka.

The war could have been soon over after Directus was liberated but Osea prolonged it for as long as they could so they could squeeze Belka dry. Ironic, considering Belka started the war to squeeze Ustio dry.

The people there don't even want to live in Osea. In the AC5 mission where you go to Heierlark base they say that the people still call it South Belka. There was no independence based on self determinations like in Ustio.
Osea entered the war to stop Belka from subjugating other people but they end up doing it themselves.

Someone write a good premise in previous AC thread
>You a part of reformed Belkan Air Force
>4th Air Division 175th Tactical Fighter Squadron "Blau" (Blue)
>Emblem mascot is a Swift bird
>Your T.A.C name is Blitz, the leader of the squadron as Blau One.
>There's only other two members on your squadron and they are both siblings named Jacob Galland and Wilhelm Galland (Based on Grimm brothers and Adolf Galland)
>Due to Communication Blackout after AC7, Osean insurgencies try to invade your homeland
>Your squadron will be sent to the front line for full-scale defense
>You have to juggle between Osean and Belkan conspiracy story along the way, with the former want to create another scapegoat incident to Belka and justify themselves to annihilate your country entirely and seize all of your techs
>At the end, the Belkan proper actually take down Grunder Industries and the Grey Men
>Traditional Belkan honor pilots make things right and restore the honor of their glorious nation by destorying megacorps
>The Belkan Aces from AC0 will join you one by one to fly together with you and vow to dismantle Grey men and Gründer Industry entirely to prevent another warmongering and restore their country's pride
>AC8 takes in 2030
>Right after Simon sent NEMO away to do his mission to kill Dision
>But at the same time Belka annexed Gründer Industry and reveal the Grey Men roster all over the world to search and capture
>Some of them hiding in Neucom and General Resources as high ranking executive officers
>As a result, both Neucom and General Resources getting toppled down and lost their investments, effectively merging them back to their respective governments
>Belka inadvertently prevents the dark future that happened in Simon's simulation
>they retcon AC3 out of existence by having AC8 be Belka taking out the Grey Men and MegaCorps
youtube.com/watch?v=sHsOasp0LAo

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Yet to play 7, but I hope the Erusians (or whoever the antagonists are) actually seem threatening

>4 Erusians
Their entire military, and basically the entire continent of Usea jobs to one aircraft. Their sole ace doesn't decide to show up until the final battle and dies uncerimoniously. Invading their capital wasn't even allowed to be cool when you see how shit tier it is. Seriously why is their main city half in the ocean and in a state of disrepair?
>5 Yuktobania
Basically the same as Erusia but drawn out longer and no actual players on the Yukes sides. Maybe let them slide due to not being true antagonists
>5 Belkans
Underhanded nation wreckers who get a lot of shit done before the protags even catch on. Pretty fun villains.
>0 Belkans
Go hard or there's no home to go to. Even when they're a more straightforward antagonist they're more interesting than the above.

>MGS
>Deep
Hahahahahahahahahaha

I can pretty much agree with that.

>Seriously why is their main city half in the ocean and in a state of disrepair?
Asteroids are a bitch.

I really like that you can notice more and more craters from the Ulysses impact over time since Usea and Erusia got the full brunt of it.

MGS2 is "deep" in how it presents a sequel in an expected fashion and then proceeds to deconstruct every single part of that, making something entirely out of it using MGS1 as its "Big Shell".

Ace Combat Zero (2006):
>We will carry out the new creation of destruction through the power of righteousness. Territories, peoples, authorities, all will be liberated.
MGSV (2015):
>This world will become one; I have found the way. Race, tribal affiliations, national borders, even our faces will be irrelevant.
Kojima is a thieving hack

So you want to retcon one of the best stories in the series and replace it with embarrassing fanfiction? Yeah, glad you're not in charge.

And Ace Combat Zero isn't deep because it does the exact same thing to it's previous game AC5 by showing how hypocritical the latter game's themes are?

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>All of those former Belkan ace bosses from Zero are now your wingmen. You will restore honor to the once glorious homeland with your brothers

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Never said Ace isn't deep. Although now I see the guy you replied to said that.

AC4 and ACZ have better stories than every MGS game

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Why did that kid commit seppuku?

As much as the princess is a QT, the Erusians needed a stronger and more threatening leader. There's a lot to examine with a charismatic, benevolent ruler in a monarchy or dictatorship, especially when said ruler is a competent military leader as well. I have absolutely no idea who was the military leader on either side otherwise.

If you look at AC3 ending seems nothing was retconned. Nemo's job is to kill Dision and that's it. Those simulation that we play is not even happened.

>itt: we pretend the story in AC isn't fucking retarded

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I don't know how they could make so many consistently awesome trailers. It's the right amount of cutscenes and gameplay footage that's actually playable and not just set pieces but fully controllable, combined with hair raising music at the right moments. They still hold up even after more than a decade beating AAA games of current gen for me. You take a look at the trailers, that's what you are promised and that's what you will get, so much honesty.

Why are you anons attacking MGS

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Nah the Princess should've been a total Marie Antoinette figure, she basically was already but we never got to see any of it. Just show cutscenes of her being pampered and fed lies to by the radicals (maybe even her father the King), and living a comfy life of royalty, before she gets shot down, all of her friends and family die, and she has to experience the consequences of her naivity first-hand

>The story is always easy to follow and not even deep at all.

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Yea Forums is autistic shitflinging board. Both series are pretty decent in a sea of shit.

>pretty decent
Woah! Be careful there, man. You almost said you like something!

Really disliked strong sjw vibes in this one
-Abundance of strong women characters
-Abundance of niggers compared to previous installments
-Two main villains are white males
-Women, being well represented in the story, are never portrayed negatively
-Overall anti-nationalist pro-globalism sentiment present in the story

I wonder if japs did it to appease western retards or are already pozzed themselves

is the joke here that you're just describing ac5

Nagase wasn't nearly as annoying as the new moody tomboy la creatura that does nothing for the story. In fact, she was very likable.

Those points are true for nearly every AC though.

They were constantly trying to make the princess the most despised character in the game.

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I replayed 4,5 and 0 last year and it's wasn't bothered by anything I'm blaming 7 for in the slightest.

>Abundance of strong women characters
If your already seething then don't ever look at any anime. You'll probably get a seizure.

IT'S SO FUCKING GOOD
youtube.com/watch?v=M906kiFzHuY
youtube.com/watch?v=M906kiFzHuY
youtube.com/watch?v=M906kiFzHuY

I'm fairly positive I've watched more anime that you have.

*ahem*

FLYING HANDLEBARS

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Didn't really bother me that much desu. It could be way worse. They do make them "strong bc muh race and women" but they could be very obnoxious about it, which they aren't right now.

whenever you steep into western inspired fiction in japan all those examples are present a majority of the time, the anti-nationalist pro-globalist hint is probably the longest standing one (besides waifus obviously), probably since they got nuked, those clowns are STILL getting over that. Women are almost always presented in these formats as either unrelenting badasses or beacons of purity and truth.

tl;dr 'japs' been like that a long time homie

How can you still alive after seeing those idiotically abusive tsundere characters in current year nime?

>It was meteors
Didn't even cross my mind even though I remember that being the reason for Stonehenge being invented. If only Erusia could have stolen some of those Yuke submarines and fired it simultaneously with Stonehenge, they would have been invincible.

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Like I said, I the others AC games I played are 4,5,0 and the two on PSP and it never was as bad as in 7.

>that last minute of Hush

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Watching anime does not imply watching low effort cookie cutter moeshit you like so much.

what I'm saying is that it's endemic, and you can't even pretend to argue that those elements aren't at least present in earlier entries, 7 is HYPERCHARGED I suppose, but it's also 10 years later. I'm surprised it's not worse.

5 does all the things you complain about 7 doing. You're dumb. Stop posting.

Nope, not really. It has Nagase as a wingman, is that the point you're trying to make?

>Implying I like anime
>Thinking you can act all high and mighty for watching anime

>2:58 kicks in

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>Jolly Rogers' yellow F-14 markings are red in Razgriz colours
I love the edge so much. The HD models in the pseudo-remaster really adds a lot of details that are lost when emulating.

Then I hope you realize you're coming off as a dummy making an argument pertaining to anime knowing shit about it.

the adrenaline that runs through your veins every time you listen an AC track
youtube.com/watch?v=TruSmnb9wws
youtube.com/watch?v=TruSmnb9wws

>play 5
>it's literally Gundam Seed
>the biggest embarrassment to the franchise ever

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>Thinking your taste of anime is better than anyone

5 has a strong woman in your squad. It has a black guy in your squad. The villains are all white males. The women are never portrayed negatively. Nationalism is portrayed badly.
Why do you accept these in 5 but not in 7? Especially since most of them are laid on much more strongly in 5.

Imagine having taste so shitty you don't enjoy the best installment in the series.

I still think AC7's release date trailer is the best of the franchise. It's just incredible

The VR trailer was probably the only time in my life I have been swayed to purchase a game due to the trailer.

I still haven't tried it.

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>the worst characters in the series
>the worst dialogue in the series
>a story that's full of plot holes
>a story that needs repeated use of plot devices to work
>terrible melodrama
>barely any aces
>the aces that are there are stupid
>too lazy to make a new superplane so they planned to modify an old one, but even that was too much effort so they just reused the Falken outright
>a campaign that's full of escort/defend missions
>a campaign that's full of scripted events that force you to just wait around until the next event if you're going too fast
>a campaign that's full of sequences where you just fly and have to listen to people talk so it's incredibly boring if you don't care what they have to say or are replaying the game
>a campaign that's full of gimmick missions that aren't fun to play more than once
>featuring Final Option, the worst mission in any Ace Combat ever
AC5 is bad.

It's 0=3>5>4>X>2>1
Sorry didn't play 6, but I'm gonna buy a 360 one day. Also never played Infinity. Real shame.

>b*lkans
>white

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Nagase is indeed strong but is much better fleshed out as a character compared to Xingxua or whatever her name was which was clearly a token chink, and than tomboy bearing no influence on the story. Her being a woman is irrelevant because she has an actual character.
>It has a black guy in your squad
One, joining you at the end of the game
>The villains are all white males
Thats because that game was 99% white males, duh.
>The women are never portrayed negatively
Because there's only two, one is your wingman and two is yuke spy/love interest trope.
>Nationalism is portrayed badly.
Didn't really feel it compared to 7

I never stated that other AC were innocent of the things I described but degree in which it was portrayed varied greatly

>BOth sides are being manipulated by sumwun else!!!1
>dood i literally cry after fiting cuz war is so bad

t. incel

Objectively better than that piece of shit AC4

>Every mission is a shitty 20 minute score attack
>Run out of targets, fly around doing nothing for 3 minutes while the clock ticks down
>Yellow Squadron are invincible enemies in 3 different missions and are programmed to always dodge your misssiles and have infinite health
>Godawful plot that ripss off every mid 2000's europe invasion war movie
>Baloon popping mission
>Stonehenge is garbage
>Escort Nagase from AC2. Rmeember AC2? It was better than this
>Fucking ribbons are gay

no, ace combat is the ace combat of air force games

a bit late today aren't we sweetheart?

>Get real excited for VR missions since I had recently gotten a nice PC VR setup and had fallen in love with VR as a whole
>Then learn Sony is a dick and bought a year of exclusivity for those missions

The game itself is still 100% worth it for me, but still a tiny bit grumpy about all that. Though I also hear that the VR missions are overall less impressive due to them having to gimp the graphics and complexity of the missions to make it run smoothly.

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Look at this game. It's fucking perfect you bitchasses. SEETH now 4/5 babbys.

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The entire point of AC post AC3 is that exarcebated nationalism leads only to war when it can be easily manipulated by those in power to further agendas. That's the point of Trigger crossing out his nation in the final mission of AC7

but I'm here now sweetie ;^)

>Killing the good guys
good goy

Oh, so you don't actually have a problem with any of those things, you just think AC7 is written badly. That's a lot more sensible than hating a game because it happens to have a black guy in it.
You're still kind of an idiot if you think 7 has worse writing than 5 though, so that's too bad.

That's right. Games should feature no black people ever and women should be weak dumb sluts only here for sex appeal.

There's only two black people and one gets blown up alongside Harling, and strong females is a staple of Ace Combat. Stop viewing eveything as a personal attack on your politics you ratarded faggot

I didn't say I hated the game because it had a black guy in it, stop strawmanning me. It fact I didn't hate it at all, it has the best gameplay in the series, but the points I listed clearly diminished my overall enjoyment. Ad hominem is not helping your case either.

hmm..interesting opinion user, whats your name?

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ah wrtote down the wrong user never mind

No need to get so defensive and view everything in black and white sweetie. Some trends are very apparent for anyone who's being with the series for long.

it doesn't even have legs

>That song at the end of Ace Combat V trailer

FUCK. I'M NOT OLD. FUCK

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stinkbug a gay

My dear, there's no trends. The entire plot is an extension of what was already there in AC4, 5, 0 and AHL. Not only that, but the extinction of nations and the eventual takeover of big businesses is what leads to AC3.
Try staying away from r/ TD and /pol/ for a few days.

>REEEEEE NIGGERS REEEE WOMEN
Yikes and incelpilled

Anime skins when?

I don't think I've been to pol in the last 5 years and I don't even know what rTD is but good job for making a case to ignore posters who bring up pol in an argument.
Oh, and you too :^)

I just got it last weekend and am halfway through. I was unsure at first but I'm fully convinced that the story is a banger as long as the end is good (doesn't even need to be satisfying, just fitting).

>Mission 7 pic related

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Is 7th mission "the first contact" where you fight Mihaly? That thunderstorm looked corny as fuck, as if you were on Jupiter.

Ace Combat 7 is literally Ace Gear Solid Combat 4: Planes of the Patriots

Yeah, but the fight with Mihaly took me a few tries because I'd either get smashed on the rocks or a lightning bolt would blind me just long enough to fuck something up.

I'm bad at jet fighter games but I'm on mission 12 right now so it's not all bad.

there was like, 4 women. one died like a bitch, one just cried and fussed a lot, the princess and the drag queen were both stubborn cunts who were both continuously wrong about everything.

>Abundance of strong women characters
Scrap Queen and...? I don't recall any of the other females being particularly "strong."
>Abundance of niggers compared to previous installments
Champ, Wiseman, and...? I don't recall any others.
>Two main villains are white males
You just complained about there being too many blacks and women, and now you're bitching about this? Would you rather Mihaly be black? Or a woman? A black woman? Would that have been better for some reason?

Like PA went out of their way this time to make almost all of the females unlikeable. Kek, even the most likable one gets shot down in 3 missions in. So much for "strong women"

I get lightning storms like that here all the time, it looked pretty standard to me.
for that reason i pretty much can't play MP for half the year, but i hear i dodged a bullet anyway

It's funny that you mention Mihaly, I didn't even view him as a villain. I was thinking of McKinsey and Shroeder.

nah, the likeable one turned out fine unless you're one of those PC shitters who can't beat Stonehenge Defence

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her full name was Sha’Tanya Mo’Nique Fo’Landra Bon’Qui Qui Rohandra La’Trice Sha’Londria V’Lanta’la’mana’ma’nisha A. Mihaly.

>Shroeder
He ain't a villain either. He was part of the ZOE project and the Erusean Ultra-Nationalist Rebels went to him. He took a job and eventually came to regret it.

I've only had the game for a week but whatever those missles that turn around to follow you are can fuck off. It's like everyone has them

>No Tornado GR.4
>No Harrier
>No F-117
>No Chinese Planes
>No X-29A
>No Skyhawk or A-6 intruder
>No F-8 Crusader

>Just a bunch of the same slavshit planes

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Su 47 and su 57 are the best planes though, you discontent is unfounded.

>2nd part of that mission with the drones
>Get struck by lightning 4 fucking times
>One of them I was right on a drone
>Say fuck it and press the gun button
>Hit and kill the drone anyway without a HUD

I was sad there weren't any more thunder storms in the other missions.

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McKinsey isn't really an antagonist, he's just a huge asshole.
My sides

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kono loves slavshit bro
watch the interview on Ace Combat Fans YT

>she was very likable

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>Shooting down Mckinsey gives you points
Haah
Waaw

I'm mostly just salty about my waifu not being in the game.

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Not gonna lie, it looks ugly af next to properly designed planes.

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what do you think bandog looks like

>*crashes into civilians at an airshow*

heh nothing personal blyat

I can imagine AWACS Long Caster being a fat fuck.

Why is Belka so popular among
the fans?

That country is basically a German Nazi in the Strangereal earth, right?

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The Ace Combat #1 Director from the comics.

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Attackers suck for single player anyway. They need to make another MP focus game like Infinity so they can be useful again.

google "fitgirl ace combat"
or just go on fitgirl's site

German Serbian Iraqi Jews

They're more like Jews to me.

No, but Ace Combat 7 was the MGSV of Ace Combat.

AC7's a good game. It's not full of incredibly bad design choices like MGS V is. That comparison isn't fair.

neck yourself. Tornado is cute. it's like a Tomcat, an Eagle and a Falcon all had gay sex and somehow made a sweet baby

Who makes these comics? I always kek everytime one is posted

People like them because they're the mustache twirling evil bad guys but the other countries are too incompetent to stop them.

>MGSV of Ace Combat.
Literally AC6
>garbage story
>bland repetitive gameplay
>rushed
>only remembered for its memes

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will the series ever have this much soul again?

Kill yourself my dude :)

I'm not sure, but I love them as well.
The right mix of simple and in-jokes.

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Three of a Kind does it for me. It's such a strong track
youtube.com/watch?v=Xoy2HR6vgSw

>Literally AC6
>bland repetitive gameplay
Come the fuck on.

@452449828
>Abundance of strong women characters
>Women, being well represented in the story, are never portrayed negatively
1. Avril did not do anything insignificant other than being a narrator, get transported and transport someone
2. The princess is an dumb idealist that easy to trick but manage to get her comeuppance for her naivety in the end
3. Brownie is just there for being Mihaly's punching bag
4. McConie only significant in Stonehenge
5. Mihaly's granddaughters let their grandfather being used for test subjects
6. Huxian is just there as a wingwoman, even she almost becoming a victim of Mihaly's hunting session

>Abundance of niggers compared to previous installments
1. Wiseman only there for Count character development
2. The other black pilot did nothing significant
3. Harling's bodyguard only serves to fuel the tension in the setting

>Two main villains are white males
1. Mihaly is not even a villain, grandpa just want to go out in blast on the sky, his dearest home
2. Schroeder only for the A.I. science. At the end, he manage to get his shit together and help stop the rampaging Skynet

>Overall anti-nationalist pro-globalism sentiment present in the story
And as a result of that, Usea becoming the haven for capitalism and corporatism (Which lead to AC3 fiasco)

Your move. But I know you won't, your just baiting. So no (you) for you.

Fuck me, why does this have to be locked behind a game that doesn't exist anymore?

Best one

@452449828
>Women, being well represented in the story, are never portrayed negatively
Both Collette and Avril are portrayed as at least morally gray, the latter because she helped prolong a war that damaged the lives of innocents, and the former was DEFINITELY placed in a position of guilt for being used by nationalists to spew propaganda that prolonged the stupid war.

art style reminds me of hiimdaisy

Ace Combat is the Ace Combat of the Ace Combat.

yeah but what is the dark souls of ace combat games?

>>The story is always easy to follow and not even deep at all.
>Just like MGS

except for MGS2 at the very end

user, AC7 is in the shit tier for Ace Combat stories.

Good news!

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Ace Combat 0.
Because of all the knights.

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Thank God the Emerians aren't the invading types. Of all the games I think they had the most competent military.

why?

If you were an AC protagonist, what would your signature plane be? Pic related would be my choice.

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Muh MGP

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Su-47 is my favorite, but it's too much of a bad guy plane for a protagonist to ever use it

>Japan is secretly training pilots to take back the skies (and the seas)

>Invasion of Gracemeria kicks in

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Cut-scenes look nice, but are incredibly boring and disjointed.

>mfw i waited 15 years for the translation

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>Trigger, the madman he is only uses gun to wreak havoc among the enemy and shot down multiple enemy aces by himself.

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The MIGHT of the european union

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Messerschmidt Me262

What did Dision mean by this?

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>implying simulation nemo got complety deleted

Yeah I was disappointed nobody says "See a nigger, just call Trigger."

1. Maybe we have different understandings of what it means to portray in a negative light? Because none of the examples you were making constitute that.
2. Does not disprove the point I was making. They're insignificant sure, but was I asserting otherwise?
3. I did not say Mihaly was a villain, I was talking about McKinsley and Shroader, which both fit the bill. Redemption of a villain is not an uncommon trope.
4. Indeed, your point?

>But I know you won't, your just baiting
Never. I'm just stating my honest opinion, can you comprehend the concept of that?

He means all fucking megacorps must fucking hang.

PSVRfag here, there's only 3 missions. You'd be lucky to get 5 hours out of it before you're sick of them.

What are your hopes and dreams for 8?
>7-tier graphics
>High-tech cyberpunk setting from 3
>multiple story branches
>legit space mission (the one in 3 might count)
>expand on 7's AI subplot
>Keiki Kobayashi's attempt at more trance and synth-sounding music
>Megafloat and Expo City in 7 graphics
>HD anime cutscenes by Production IG in similar style to Patlabor 2 and GitS
It'd be beautiful and even more kino. It could even have an excuse to bring former MCs and enemy Aces back through AI-replica shenanigans.

The original plan was that the whole game would be VR-compatible akin to RE7, but they basically couldn't make it work within the PS4's performance profile without severely compromising their vision for it, so they decided to leave the campaign regular gameplay only and make a few arcade missions for VR. The VR content is still great though, even with the limited scope and limited capability of the PSVR headset.

The point of simulation is to look for a possible way to kill Dision. Literally any choice in every scenario that Nemo make will end up Dision's dying.

Full VR
Less shitty story

>game is about unifying the world against otherwise unstoppable inhuman creatures created by governments and is a prequel to a dystopian world run by corporations
>"Whoa why isn't everybody a straight white male and why doesn't everyone have blind trust in their government? Must be those filthy Japanese trying to hack our elections!"

Th game is full of craters from Ulysses impact. You can see a really big one in Two Pronged Strategy.

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Ground pound missions that stay ground pounds
Furball Missions that stay furballs

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the only plane to ever hold a candle against the f22 in red flag EVEN IF the typhoons would proably never get so close to them in a real fight scenario.

easy on these strawmans bud

When has this ever happened in Ace Combat?

>That canyon run mission in 6
>Haha this will be mainly ground, I'll use the A-10 for fun
>The latter half

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Operations system from AC6
Competent allies
More furballs

Typhoon is shit compared to F-22. Every plane but the F-35 is shit compared to the F-22. Don't even try to pretend they're on the same level.

Almost everytime in 5 and 7
Half the time in 6

>tfw ,missed out on the most epic Ace combat mission of all time

I've played almost all of the games and this sounds so fucking INCREDIBLE. Now the DLC is gone forever

acecombat.fandom.com/wiki/Heavy_Command_Cruiser_(Ace_of_Aces)

>ywn shoot down Mobius 1, Galm and Yellow 13 in the same mission

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Multiplayer having both deathmatch and co-op missions. Like the Infinity ones where you all fight a superweapon.

>almost reached the return line
>

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>more plot from countries in the Yuktobanian continent
>OR play as a nation that was previously an antagonist in the series
>retro planes
>submarines again
>lots of Aces like in 0
>full VR game
>female voiced AWACS

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The one groundpound-only mission I remember from 5 was immediately followed by a mission where you're being chased down by the toughest enemy squadron in the game and you're stuck in whatever plane you chose for the groundpound mission

AC6 is my secret favourite. Really, really solid game and entry to the series, especially the music.

Based twist that went unmatched in the following installments.

R-100 Curtain Call.

>Ground pound missions that stay ground pounds
They pull this enemy fighter squadron ambush during so many of these missions, at this point I'm surprised anyone familiar with the series doesn't expect it. It's almost as much of a low hanging fruit as a tunnel run.

MGS doesn't have a monopoly on quasi-futuretech.

Both Ofnir and Grabacr came in mostly groundpound mission
They are easy as fuck though

1. Then Rosa is the one in negative light of being naive and reckless. The rest doesn't have one, but they also don't have blatant positive light either.
2. And what's your purpose of pointing out the abundance of black man in Strangereal?
3. Like I said, Schroeder is try to redeem himself by working together to stop the skynet drone. McKinsey is barely a main villain.
4. You think hardcore capitalism is good for everyone's future?

My take is the future plottwist will be that there are two NEMOs. The NEMO who got released to the real world by Simon and the NEMO who just got deleted.

It's my overt favorite. No AC game does gameplay better than 6, and for all the emphasis naysayers put on "MUH STORY" they seem to be giving the shitshow of 7's story a pass.

The in-mission story and characters are all great anyhow.

Are Post Stall Maneuvers necessary for multiplayer? Some players are impossible to dogfight even with maxed out pitch maneuverability.

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What happened to the anarchist exactly?

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Died in Daredevil

drone fell and crushed him, he died saving some little kid. they should not have killed him off

Problem is it means you're never ever going to pick an attacker like the F-117 or A-10 first time through.

Died offscreen
>Tabloid didn't become your wingman

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Tabloid? Dead.

AC threads before 7
>this series is so much fun!
>the radio chatter really makes these games stand out
>these plots are so silly but they serve the gameplay
>CUM HISTORIA
>jesus in a fighter jet holy shit
>all hail the holy trinity
>the other ones are fun too except ass horizon
>whoa guys AC3 has finally been translated and it's insane!
AC threads after 7
>4 is the worst game ever made
>no 5 is and this list of nitpicks proves it
>i am literally incapable of differentiating all these countries and continents
>my flightdick doesn't work
>why doesn't this game line up with my personal politics?
>remake 3 when?
>fuck osea
>can i fuck the princess?

Just use one of the overpowered weapons. Use EML and if you can get on target for a second they're dead. Use QAAM and it'll chase them for half a minute. Use SASM and you don't even need to hit people to kill them. Use TLS and burn people dogfighting miles away so they can't fight back. No need for skill when you have broken specials.

>4 is the worst game ever made
People were pushing this meme for months before 7 came out.

This. Anyone who uses attackers in their first campaign run deserves whatever mission update coming to them.

No.
>Some players are impossible to dogfight
So pick another target. It's easier to win by taking down the most than it is to win by taking down the best.

Shut up you whiner, threads are still fine. The occasional shitposter or whiner (you included amongst them) doesn't change that.

ive been wondering myself, I use the x-02 with the EML and I met another player who finally beat me. I used max pitch maneuverability and other shit yet he always seems to railgun me first.I think he does a post stall to turn his plane faster then mine.

You. You have good taste.
I'm sad I never had the patience to unlock the Ragnarok II.

People have been saying for years that 4 is only considered good because of nostalgia from being the first game everyone played. And that list of nitpicks has been around as long as 5 has.

He would've been as boring as every other Strider Squadron member. Even Count got boring without the rest of Spare Squadron to complement him.

>playing on lobbies with special weapons enabled.

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>Use SASM and you don't even need to hit people to kill them
Correction, you don't need to hit them to score points. They do very little damage without a direct hit.

Ace Combat 7 fucking sucked tbqh, literally nothing but ground pounding.
If I wanted to mindlessly shoot ground targets I could play War Thunder for free, I'd like to have some REAL dogfights.
But no, here's 16 missions of shooting ground targets, a few of them have shitty stealth segments, here's your escort missions, okay now you can have ONE dogfight (don't get greedy!)
Fucking dogshit game.

count is based fuck off

You have more of a connection to Tabloid than you do Count since he joined you to take on Mihaly without question while every other faggot got out of dodge

The probably didn't want to retread on Pixy though.

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R-Type should have stopped at Delta. Arrowhead/Ragnarok/Cerberus/Albatross are the only R-Types that should exist. You can replace Arrowhead with Warhead or Delta if you want. All other R-Types should not exist.

Princess D'Elise is CUTE.

It really didn't help that it felt like they weren't in the air with you at all.
So you just have these blue squares that are said to be your allies, but do all of jack shit to help you out 90% of the time so there's no real connection to build.

>can't even shoot down a plane
>can't even cover your six
>based

???

AC7 has the worst wingmen of any AC game I can remember. They are literally just audiobooks.

I played MP for the sole purpose of unlocking things. Abusing easymode special weapons helped with that. It also get me kicked a lot for being a miserable bitch who did nothing but snipe people who were trying to dogfight, but that's neither here nor there.

the game hits its peak comfiness level when flying with the 444, everything else falls short

i liked every one of them, count was great as the cunt everyone shits on, bandog the best awacs, champ was fun as the 'loose cannon', high roller was just a good gruff character, and full bands death hit me harder than anyone elses, tabloids death was kind of undersold since he died a hero and probably got to sniff the queen.

>we'll keep the drones off Trigger!
>missile lock missile lock missile lock missile lock
>THE DRONES ARE FALLING OUT OF THE SKY!
>missile lock missile lock missile lock
Why do they insist on lying to me?

>AC7 has the worst wingmen of any AC game I can remember
what is AC4,5,6,X,JA, and AH?

How on earth is Tabloid supposed to pull a Pixy?

Yeah. At least they justified it with Spare Squadron. They really should've improved the AI for Strider.

I've ha them steal kills from me. They don't normally do much damage, but they do enough that they can finish off a weakened enemy.

you're either a clinical retard or haven't played these games

>I'd like to have some REAL dogfights.
>REAL dogfights
>in a game full of 5th gen fighter jets
Go play War Thunder if you want real dogfights. In fact, just go play War Thunder. It sounds more your speed than Ace Combat. I hear they're adding F4 Phantoms soon, so get grinding.

The story in 7 is really bad. They switched writers or something right? I'm glad I don't play AC for the story.

>probably got to sniff the queen.
Wonder if Trigger smashed that or if he ended up Skrap Qween

Wingmen in 5 and 6 can actually do things (in 6 allied support is actually incredibly overpowered). In the other games they're pretty bad, but at least they admit it. They don't spend the whole game trying to pretend they're actually helping when they're obviously not doing anything.

>>can't even shoot down a plane
>>can't even cover your six
It's not really his fault that the dev team programmed all wingmen to be more retarded than they've ever been in any Ace Combat game.

4 doesn't have any wingman, the ones in 5 are fucking annoying, the one is 6 is fucking annoying, X doesn't have any, JA doesn't have any, and AH has the most annoying one

>listing games where your wingmen can be ordered to attack specific targets or defend you

Way to go retard, those games all have way better wingman than the useless fucks in this one.

I had a real dogfight with Mihaly.
Hell, I don't even care if I'm picking off shitty planes with missiles, I'd rather be shooting at a dozen retarded air targets than a dozen retarded ground targets buried 10 feet underground that need a perfect vertical run to hit and there's like 50 of them so go around for another five passes if you didn't take a plane with anti-ground ordinance.

It has production issues iirc, which probably lead to rewrites or rushed writing. It still has it moments though. Spare Squadron and missions 15-18 were great storywise.

I was talking more personality and story wise, not from a gameplay perspective

Whether they're annoying or not has nothing to do with the posts you replied to.

Which makes them useless. In 6 wingman damage was full, no nerf.

>Mission where you have to escort McKinsey
>Blow up all the SAMs fast
>Spawn Ace and swoosh off to shoot him down
>After finishing off that side go back to get the remaining enemies
>Turns out 1 enemy literally just coasted right behind the big plane and started gunning away
>I arrive just in time to see escort explode making me redo everything
>Count is just happily flying away in front of the escort doing absolutely nothing

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>ground targets that need a perfect vertical run to hit
are you really complaining about having to be above ground targets to shoot them from an airplane?

So in this game you have wing-men who are SUPPOSED to be good according to dialog, but are actually useless, and you somehow connect with that?

I can't take them seriously at all.

Flying audiobooks.

good strawman
there are only so many pure vertical dive bombing runs I can stomach in one campaign

and in 6 there was a billion enemies on screen at once,the allied support gimmick was needed but it was too easy. that system would not work in 7

>mfw you can't pick the stage soundtrack for multiplayer
I just wanted to pretend that Roca Roja is B7R and listen to Zero all day.

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>the one is 6 is fucking annoying
imagine being this much of a contrarian
YIKES!

I wasn't even talking about the support system, I'm talking about wingmen who don't shoot blanks.

>MY WIFE
>MY DAUGHTER
>HOW COULD I LET THIS HAPPENNNNNNNN
shamrock fucking sucked deal with it

Huxian was good tho.

BELKA?

yeah I know, what I am saying is I think it makes sense from a gameplay perspective for the AI to not do much damage because of the enemy count in the missions. In zero is made sense because you only had 1 wingman, but in 7 you have like 3 or 4 in spare, and around like 6 or 5 in strider

>everyone just finished GiTS
Even funnier because Production IG is the studio that animated the cutscenes for AC3.

>Count getting pissy because he has to defend Stonehenge instead of being allowed to attack the Arsenal Bird
You wouldn't do anything even if you did come along. You'd just hang out and watch me do everything, the same way Wiseman already is.

You can shoot down the transport and get like 1000 points too.

Even Bandog has enough of McKinsey's shit.

Not saying they aren't useless, just saying they CAN shoot down planes.

honestly the GITS influences were fine

>strawman
I literally quoted your own text. Unless you're saying your arguments themselves are strawmen. I don't remember having to do a single pure vertical dive bombing run. You're supposed to fire a missile or 2 and then move onto your next target, and special weapons that target ground units are designed to be used at level flight. You shouldn't be dive bombing anything. This isn't a WW2 game.

That actually made sense though. Count is still bitter over Full Band's death. Even disregarding that, it's fucking McKinsey of all people. There's no love lost between them.

>Complaining about 2 minutes of dialouge

Other than that he isn't any different from almost any other character in the franchise.

>that retard in 7 who has no other talking points besides telling stories to his son

>Count tagging along in the final mission to do absolutely nothing other than to tell you to fly up the shaft at the end

Stop being an apologist for the shitty wingmen in this game. If they could actually watch your back the game would be better for it.

>wholesome family man cares that russian niggers dropped bombs on his family
wow how annoying you hopeless autist
meanwhile he was a based bro who always had your back, wasn't sucking your dick 24/7 and actually did shit by himself

I am so sad we didn't get to see what happened to McKinsey other than "He went to the front lines".
Maybe that'll be a DLC mission series where he goes on a power trip after the satellites fall and Trigger has to kick his shit in.

Multiplayer would be fun if the multiplayer-exclusive parts tree didn't exist. Adding a PvE mode would be nice, but the ability to make your regular missiles act like QAAMs is the real problem.

Nine times out of ten the ground targets are just a distraction and you can get all the points you need just by focusing on other planes. People only keep failing missions like Long Day because the briefing makes it seem like you're only supposed to go for the ~30 point SAM sites rather than the ~500 point enemy fighters.

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>count has voice lines where he talks about dealing with enemies
>he spends the whole mission flying in a straight line, never shooting anything
I'm pretty sure the devs fucked something up.

Both have ridiculous stories, take themselves seriously despite how dumb it can be, both are great games. This game does come off as Metal Gear Solid if it took place in the skies.

She looks like she _____ _____ ____

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loves her dog

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should be sitting on my face

>you'll get to fly with the survivors of spare squadron and bandog again
>Count's character arc goes full circle as everyone in spare gets to see how much he changed. He might even git gud and become an ace as foreshadowed in the last few missions
>The case of full band gets a conclusion

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What was Jaeger's deal anyways? Does he ever even acknowledge Trigger after reuniting with him in Strider squadron? It is the same guy from the beginning of the game, right?

is poorly written

>Two-pronged Strategy
>Second half of Rescue
>Two thirds of First Contact
>Second half of Faceless Soldier
>Second half of Transfer Orders
>Second half of Lost Kingdom
>First half of Lighthouse
>Dark Blue

Just because they are halves of big missions - i.e., the same size as PS2 missions - doesn't mean they don't count. And that's even discounting annihilation missions and Stonehenge Defensive that have plenty of air targets.

I do admit that I would like one pure AA Comona style mission with nothing but usual planes against you.

shouldn't you be disobeying more orders shamrock? or maybe you should be shitting in a bag you paralyzed fuck

>6fag is back again
fuck you, the kid scene is the biggest cringefest I saw in any AC game

>he can only list two missions as air combat and the rest are "half"
Oh no no no no no bros this can't be happening

No. Clown and Jaeger are different person.

Belkan nationalism is one hell of a drug.

Go dance with the angels.

>shamrock could be kitted out with a Nosferatu and use the MEGA MISSILE attack

That alone makes him better than any useless shitter in 7.

Stay salty count

fucks osean women

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>"literally nothing but ground pounding"
>every mission has air targets you have to deal with except one

dios mio...

Would it have been that hard for them to get different voice actors? Was the budget really that tight? They could afford two different guys in Japanese, why not English too?

Yet there's no Su25s or yak38/40

The AI in 7 is retarded. I'm replaying 4, a game from 2001, and the AI is way better because they actually help and will kill things if you're struggling.

Indeed. And I'm hoping for the better, not for the worse.

dont they have the same splash image too?

became Osean puppet

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Solitary makes more sense than a gay ass kid phrase

They didn't think anyone would notice or care enough about the voices of 2 minor characters who add nothing to the story for it to matter.

>Dude, there's hours of pure AA gameplay, specifically in parts different from attacking ground targets
>NOTHING BUT GROUND POUNDING

Oh no no no no bros, how can that user be so stupid?

Bros.... Ground Combat 7...

I wish

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Why is Project Aces so obsessed with Nagase? How many Nagases are they on now?

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Kei is kinda the poster girl of Bamco, she originally appeared in a racing game

>type "2"
>about to post
>decide to look it up

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The A-10 is the most meta airplane in the game.
Meanwhile the entire Russian tree fucking sucks and has dogshit SP armament.

SU-34 is better than A-10 in almost every way. SFFS's minimum radius is around the same as UGB

fucks belka guys

Ridge Racer's idol is called "Reiko Nagase", so go figure.

>SFFS
Might as well fly the Strike Eagle at that point and have an actual fighter.

In 7, the F22's a better bomber than the A10

See >SFFS similar to ACI
>HCAA for fucking around air targets
>higher 4AGMs missile count
>can PSM
>all stats are higher, even more in pitching

>kei nagae , an ouroboros member in AC3
What the fuck!?

wtf bros... the F-35 was supposed to be the ground attack aircraft

SU-34 can dogfight though, unlike the A-10
Also every single SU can post-stall, F-15 can't

It's actually selling, but in the end give it a buy.
(I'm about to do the same thing btw)

That was her "sister".

It's a fancy way of telling someone to kill themselves I guess.

This one, of course. If fictional planes are not allowed, then I'll go with the F-15S/MTD

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>dogfighting in a bomber
Also Post-stall maneuvering is a useless gimmick, if it wasn't then American planes would be able to do it too.

The A-10. I'm not a pussy.

>TLS hits like a wet noodle similar to ACI
>hitbox too small even with parts
>no laser duration extenders like in ACI
I'm ok with the TLS being balanced for MP in ACI, but for compensation, the duration is longer (even longer with TLS Fuel M), fuckhuge hitbox that copies the circle of the reticle, damage ticks are pretty quick, instant start up and effective range of 20,000 meters away. What the fuck happened to the TLS in 7? I want my giant lasers back

It's bizarre. 4AAM is much better than 8AAM, so they gave the good air weapon to the F-35 and the bad one to the F-22. XSDB is way better than SOD, so they gave the good ground weapon to the F-22 and the bad one to the F-35. At least QAAM and 8AGM are good (once you get used to firing 8AGM as soon as it locks so you don't waste ammo, at least) so you have at least one weapon that's useful for their actual roles.

Reminder that GR and Neucom survives far into the future

ugsf-series.com/en/

What if Ouroboros Nagase is the same Nagase from 5?

hope it's retconned tbf

>>dogfighting in a bomber
What's your point? The aircraft classes don't actually mean anything in this game.

AMX

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No because MGS is good.

ADF-01 Falken. For RL plane? Su-57

No idea where you came to this conclusion or why you keep spamming it, but they have nothing in common. Why are Ace Combat fans so desperate and cringe?

The F-117 Nighthawk

From what I've gathered, most Ace Combat fans have very little experience with other works of fiction, so they like to draw comparisons to AC anywhere they can.

>vector thrust

I can't believe i bought this piece of shit doomed to development hell

>B2 Spirits launching missiles
yo

Is stealth coating any good for multiplayer?

I love how these people act like their going go but it. Pirate fags are the most delusional people on this board, which is really saying something in this trannyfest

does this game has voice acting?

Are you supposed to keep the aim on the boogeys after locking in? My missiles keep missing.

Yes. She doesn't talk though. She doesn't even show up beyond that one picture in that one news report.

Missiles in this game have shit tracking on purpose. Are you firing at a plane that's travelling perpendicular to you?

Probably that's what I'm doing wrong then. I just fire off the moment I get a red sign instead of waiting to line up properly.

It's a good idea in high tier rooms if your plane isn't stealth by default.

Staying locked on makes no difference unless you're using the one specific special weapon that needs it (that being SAAM). You're probably firing from bad angles. Get in better positions before firing.
Also bogeys are unidentified contacts so you don't want to be shooting at them. If you know they're enemies then they're bandits.

>MGS2 ending
Prophet-tier writing
youtu.be/eKl6WjfDqYA

Try to only fire when the enemy's direction of travel is in line with yours, towards or away. Also if possible, don't do it if you know they're about to significantly change course. Just hold the lock and wait for a better moment.

No, you just need to lead your shot a little and not fire just because you locked on. Just think, if you're turning one way and happen to lock onto someone flying towards you and turning the other way, you have a low chance to hit with a regular missile.

F/A-18
Name: "Sting"

4>7>0>3>5>6>X>AHL/2>1

This is the true order of quality

Gives me Armored Core: For Answer vibes.

>4 at the top

>ramblings by a lying AI

who cares?

its a lot of fun! dont play with standard controls

Dude they'd be like 80, come on.

Mihaly retired before 0

>a lying AI
John Doe wasn't lying at all when he said all that, user.
Because what's the point of a lie when you can beLIEve the truth?

Does it transport nukes?

>John Doe

except that was the GW AI.
>inb4 "GW was deleted"
That statement was also a lie.

CUM HISTORIA

hey at least its good

Yeah that's what I did when I first played the campaign. Eventually you'll know when to shoot.

GW was a bubblering mess just before the Ray fight user.
It got so corrupted it became useful to destroy the system in mgs4
so nah, that last appareance is JD

3 is way too fucking high. People overrate the shit out of that game. It's one of the worst-playing games in the series.

As an 04fag, nah.
7 = 4 > 5 = 3 = 0 > 6 = X > 2

It's the story and its branching paths that gets the praise. Also it's a PS1 game so there's only so much they could do.

>jews of the strangereal
>the good guys

youtu.be/4z5p5SceJLQ

Just beat AC 04 for the first time. It's so damn short ;-;

No, it's Dark Souls of arcade flying games.

No, it's Skyrim with planes

>oh no the wrong race/sex fulfills archetype
If you can't stop seeing everything as Jewish propaganda then you're better off lurking /pol/ until the race war starts. It doesn't even do the whole "a woman? fixing planes? how progressive!" obnoxiousness. It could be far worse.

>I know one thing for certain: Heroes really do exist. We've just seen one, and he's coming home!
By far my favorite ending in the series. What a good fucking track for the credits, too.

Ace Combat is the Armored Core of plane games. Even funnier how to the new anti protag is similar the this guy. Both are old, have been fighting for many decades, and story wise both get their skills put into AI-controlled drones (in Armored Core White Glint's skills get put into AI-controlled next who is the final boss in Armored Core V)

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They also fight for a small independent nation that they may or may not actually care about. Mihaly is backed by Shilage but gives zero fucks about it, while AC4's protag is backed by Anatolia but it's never stated if he gives any shits about the place and could just be a bloodthirsty merc using it as an excuse to keep fighting. Both of their homelands also end up getting destroyed in a surprise raid by their rival while they're away from home.

Anyone else really like the default skin on the Mirage in AC7?

Something so nice about it, instead of the same old plain plane grey

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hell its just a sexy looking plane in general, sleek and agile

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>Play as A-10C
>Mission 13
>Barely make it to the nukes, have to continue a few times
It feels like the A-10C is the best plane at first then I feel like I chose the wrong plane halfway through every mission.

Go away, Erusea lost two time arleady.

I think the silos are not entirely random. The 3 on the right are always real.

Also if you look closely you can see if a silo is real or not. Fake ones are flat like a painting while real ones have thicc doors.

youtube.com/watch?v=snaX_8hnEk4

This madman also uses a MiG-31 too

There's 3 different configurations, the first one is always real. Those on the right aren't real in one of the configurations.

Trigger let Mihaly shoot down Wisman on purpouse.

Weren't they cruise missiles?

You are really dense.

0 = 6 > X > 7 > 4 > 5 > 3 = AHL > 2 > 1

There's always one surrounded by helicopters and one in below rain cloud

AHL is too high but good list.

>Play AC7 despite it being my first and only AC game I've played
>Genuinely have amounts of fun that I haven't had in years

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AHL is a strictly superior version of 2, so it should be above 2

Now play the rest

AHL's mechanics are ass. 2's mechanics are only kinda ass.

AHL gets Zero-style squadron battles though

Here's a guide. The first one is always legit. If the second one is fake, you need to follow the C route. If it was legit, the third one will be legit, and depending on the fourth one, you'll know which route you need to take.

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Sure, but that's only a benefit if it isn't a chore to fight them.

Puts the game above JA though.

>poltards found the ace combat threads

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Yeah, I believe the album art for AC4 is just a grainy photo of the Farbanti crater, wild shit.

While the overall story was pretty good, I found the pacing and presentation to be god awful. It felt like 7 went through development hell and 30 re-writes but never got stitched together correctly.

They introduce a ton of characters and kill 90% of them off or don't build on them at all. Their deaths don't mean anything to the player or even the squads who never mention them again. You end up switching squads 3 times as well, never truly bonding with anyone.

Harling's death and plotline go no-where. Even his death set up is confusing, since he died for me when I wasn't even engaging the drones near his aircraft. Entire squad throws you under the bus and get sent to a Soviet era penal battalion? Wtf? This whole section of the game plot is awful.

You fight a squad of planes with friendly IFF for some reason, then Bandog kills off Full Band. This doesn't go anywhere and isn't fully explained. You then have to escort Mckinsey with Counts. I truly expected Counts to shoot down the transport and go rouge with you and take the game into a new and interesting defector direction. This doesn't happen. Everything that happened up to this point is meaningless to the rest of the story.

Game actually seems to start around the fleet attack mission, so half way in. You finally get a permanent squad. Only person the player has any connection with is Counts who really doesn't do anything the entire game. Seriously, how did they drop the squad mate and command structure found in the first game and perfected in 5? It never feels like your allies are doing anything in 7. They form a tight ball of blue triangles that watch you get swarmed by green triangles.

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Bunch of satellites get blown up. This is where the game's plot really starts to pull you in. Game ends shortly after.

You escort a defecting Erusian officer who now explains the plot while you're too busy dodging missiles and suffering tinnitus from constant missile lock tones. They kill him right after the mission ends for no reason. The plane that kills him has your markings. This is never mentioned again.

You end up maybe witnessing some war crimes on an island. You fight an old man with a really long name. The Belkan scientist spends his whole life on the drone program only to vow to destroy it all over a few lines of dialogue. The Princess brings up the ethical dilemma of Harling's sacrifice. To destroy the space elevator or not. You don't. There was never a choice. Assault on the space elevator kills a bunch more people, some of them off screen (Tabloid). I actually missed his death since it happens in one in-mission sentence. Princess base jumps into a missile explosion. Just kidding, she's alive. Why?

What the hell happened with the writing in this story?

Exactly, You can do battle for Farbanti only shooting down all the planes even on ace.

>trying to do the Demons of Razgriz mission on AC5
>keep failing at 10 minutes in
>look up a walkthrough that says to destroy all the AA gear, not the Hrimfaxi itself
what the absolute fuck

Now that I think about it, what would AC7's OST album cover be like? Three Strikes mark?

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Ok just played AC7 for the first time after reading this thread. How the fuck do these games manage to have better cutscenes than 100m western games? I'm honestly amazed how great they are.

trigger lAUCHING FROM MASS DRIVER!!!!

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Ok I really have no idea what the fuck is going on with this mission. I'm destroying all the UAVs, attacking the Hrimfaxi, and destroying any other Subs that pop up yet I keep failing the mission at exactly 10 minutes and 10 seconds. Is this some kind of bug?

When I play it I just dump all the bombs I have on it

>fuck ooria and fuck miho

You have to damage the hrimfaxi enough to stop shooting at the allies and starts shooting at you

The Space Elevator silhouetted against a sunset, with two little blurry dots circling around it.

Sometimes you hear another Osean AWACS saying Karl is an imposter and orders other planes to kill him.

There's no proof whatsoever that he's an imposter though.

Guess I got the A config twice now. Also I like how the one with crosswinds is always real.

yes
both games are romantic towards things that are not love

Here is a list of all games in the franchise and their grades
>Ace Combat/Air Combat
GOOD
>Ace combat 2/ Ace combat Assault Horizon legacy
Good
>Ace Combat 3 (japanese version)
GOOD
>Ace combat 3 (US or EUR version)
HORRIBLE
>Ace Combat 4
GOOD
>Ace Combat 5
GOOD
>Ace Combat 6
GOOD
>Ace Combat 7
GOOD
>Ace Combat X
GOOD
>Ace Combat Assault Horizon
HORRIBLE
>Ace Combat X2
meh
>Ace Combat Xi
meh
>Ace Combat Advanced
HORRIBLE
>Ace Combat Infinity
DEAD
>Sky Crawlers Innocent Aces
ITS OK
>ACE COMBAT/AIR COMBAT ARCADE
RAD
>RIDGE RACER R2
ITS RIIIIIIIDGE RAAAAACER!!!
>GALAGA
GOOD

It transports Not-Nukes

>anti nationalist and pro globalism
The main Antagonist is pro globalism
The war only ends because hard conservatives and nationalists stop the war effort on both sides, both in politics and in the army
If anything this game is a big middle finger to pixy since it basically yells
BODERS GOOD V2 BAD

Harling's Mirror is actually about the insidious nature of fake news since neither was correct

>games always have a strong 'war is bad and the human cost is terrible' theme to them
>games also glorify the hell out of the protagonists killing hundreds upon hundreds of people and near-constantly suck the player's dick for being so good at killing people

I always got a bit of a cognitive dissonance vibe from most Ace Combat games. They're really good, but it definitely feels like the directors are trying to push two completely opposite views of war at the same time at some points.