what went wrong
What went wrong
Spammer.
no mounts
instanced map full of ugly square/rectangular zones
barely any abilities available at any given time
ungodly grind for legendary weapons made people drop the game once they hit max level
>no mounts
They added mounts. You have to grind with them (and for them) to do a lot of the shit in path of fire. Either way the game is bad. Once you've hit level 80 once it's all the same shit.
it's okay
DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS who never played Guild Wars.
NcSoft.
cash shop chink shit.
tryhard muh esports pvp.
tryhard muh raiderz elite pve niggers.
2 wvw updates in the past 3 years and anet devs shitting on gvg during the golden years of wve (with video as proof)
too little too late
They didn't want to acknowledge anything about what made GW1 good and instead thought they could do it better. All they had to do was just make a more fleshed out GW1, but they just had to "innovate".
everything
dipshit devs decided to copy wow instead of trying to keep doing their own thing like they did in gw1
Is GW1 still alive?
I've actually wasted over 1000 hours on this game. It was SO CLOSE to being good, and I desperately hoped it would get better. Instead, I saw the devs consistently failing to keep promises, while consistently delivering below expectations.
>Try to push esports, while leaving rampant balance issues in the game for months, often years, before fixing
>Fun content, such as new Super Adventure Box levels, are widely praised. Four levels are promised, but they get cancelled after releasing two due to developer incompetency
>Devs promise new legendary weapons as a selling point of Heart of Thorns then cancel them partway through. Buyers get pissed, because they bought the game for content that was promised but will never exist.
>Heart of Thorns starts off strong, until it gets obvious that the entire end of the expansion was insanely rushed and they cut content once again, resolving the story in an extremely buggy/unsatisfying fight
Those are just some examples during the time that I played. Arenanet has a track record of delivering way too little, way too late, while also forgetting some of the things that made GW1 fun. I told myself that I would try it again when Path of Fire came out but I can't be bothered with their shit anymore, there are better online games to play.
Everything
There's only 2 that you REALLY grind for. One's the flying mount which is just a gold dump, and the other is the roller beetle which is what happens if you treat a wrecking ball like a motorcycle/dune buggy.
>bought the game for content that was promised but will never exist
They're still adding the weapons. I'm serious. There's only a few left too.
Wonder if they'll get "forgotten" now with the mass layoffs. Would be funny if it happened before the Greatsword comes out after they've been pushing it back so long.
Eso happened.
We taking over W*w boys.Big Breton Cock coming through.
>They're still adding the weapons. I'm serious.
That's fucking incredible. Heart of Thorns released over 3 years ago now and they still haven't finished. Shit's crazy.
>Gaile Gray is out
Fucking BASED
The entire mastery system is a boring ass grind to me.
really? took long enough. she was SJW before SJW
Nguyen and the other tranny is out too.
It's too little too late my lads. Too many years of developing a game while surrounded by men that think they are women.
Masteries take almost no time at all to level up, plus it's account bound meaning you're not stuck doing them forever on every alt.
there are mounths
the intance maps while square/rectangular, the size is so big that is imposible to notice it, specially because so much zones have a lot of verticality, many of the expansion zones are so complex in the verticality that saying the zones are shit because you see the square/rectagular shape in the map screen all zoomed out is beyond retarded
there are always at least 15 skills abaliable, and that is not counting the way the "f" skills change or add other skills, an elementalist have at least 25 skills.
thats why they are called legendary.
.................................................
i dont play gw2 anymore, i got beyond bored of the game, but theres always a lot of bullshit spreding in this threads
Devs focused on their shitty story instead of actual content and fixing issues that have been in the game since launch.
Being owned by NCSoft. Never forget what letting NCSoft own you does.
I honestly haven't played since a few months after launch, back when the devs were vehemently against adding mounts
the vanilla map, when zoomed out, was fucking hideous
15 skills is nothing
I'll give you that about the legendaries but expecting people to run endgame world event trains for hundreds of hours is awful game design and blatant padding
Dews focused on 2 unanounced projects and got fucked for it now.
Not enough giant Norn pussy.
They tried to make WoW when GW was always about NOT being WoW
The lore doesn't make any sense whatsoever. Charr have been at war with humans (and eating them) for 450 years but now they are best friends.
I know people that won't even talk to Japs over something that happened 60 years ago.
Too much inclusivity BS and too much artificial difficulty.
The lore and story is absolute garbage even though it gets marketed on how good the story is.
All the tranny """devs""" will get fired soon I guarantee it the industry is 3 cycles behind the current zeitgeist and the current zeitgeist has been get woke go broke for half a year now.
>Charr have been at war with humans (and eating them) for 450 years but now they are best friends.
It was abundantly obvious Pyre smoothed things over between humans and Charr that rebelled against the Heirophants.
Plus, you still have Charrs and humans that hate each other
Still a boring grind, especially the Heart of Thorns ones.
>It was abundantly obvious Pyre smoothed things over between humans and Charr that rebelled against the Heirophants.
Yeah it was so abundantly clear that the nine foot cannibal monster men and Humans kept fighting a war for 200 years after that.
based retard
accurate
wait are gw2 devs getting laid off now? that's great news! fuck those retards.
What? For real?
>one of the least grindy mmos on the market
>grindy
>the jumping puzzle guy got laid off
R.I.P.
There goes my last hope of good JPs after gliding/mounts got added
Yes, Reddit it shitting itself.
Funny as fuck.
Laid off like quarter of the 400 strong staff. Apparently mostly focusing on people who were working on side projects.
This but with charr women
Wars come to an end and new threats come up. The Charr that worship the Destroyers were all killed, and Pyre wanted to fight with the humans to kill the remaining destroyers.
unless legendary weapon grind has been nerfed since release this game is horribly grindy
Anet and NC Soft are becoming one company, and this ended up causing layoffs
Dude the Charr and the humans fought a war for 200 plus years after Pyre died. They signed a cease fire the month that GW2 released if you go by in game canon. If you have it installed you can go to Fields of Ruin and see it.
Even before that, a lot of WvW and PvE problems that were in the game at launch are still in the game. And the devs made zero attempt to fix it.
What's even the point of legendaries ? 90% of them are ugly as shit and are eyesores. It seems pointless grinding endlessy for something that might as well be a simple skin. All it has going for it is that you can change the stats on the go, but you can do that easily with ascended weapons and that's not a problem if you're not poor, it's basically free if you already have the mats. Also
>a bow that shoots unicorns
It is just worse than WoW and that's it.
Sadly, but there are no atlernatives for WoW and if you like MMO than you stuck with WoW.
game is a badly optimised POS that runs on DX3 and a two decade old engine
to show other people how much time you've wasted on them
Its a gold sink/time waster.
deserved, JP are pure sadistic hells
At the risk of sounding edgy I hope he never works again. Mario 64 was good in the 90s, not 2015.
Hey fuck you, Mario 64 is still good.
combat was floaty as all fuck even for an MMO. You throw some giant icicle at a boar and it's hit for like 20% damage with no knockback
Yeah sorry I'm buzzed and got my post all fucked up. He made an inferior Mario 64 in 2015 and then put it in a sword and sorcery grind game.
Knockback is a separate mechanic
Possibly if you've never played a mario game in your life.
The only offenders were the volcano one and possibly the spiderman one, the rest were good clean fun.
The chests at the end needed to give better stuff though.
I was arguing with someone about that yesterday, said the same stuff I wrote in my post, his only argument was that you can change stats whenever you want, when I said that was pointless because most people use one build and stick to it he started getting angry, as if he was trying to justify all the time he spent grinding for one legendary
They ruined the gameplay from gw1
The one in Gendarran Fields with the steam jumps and the dive goggles at the top, luckily I found an exploit for the chest
He's a retard then. Most weapons only use 1 or 2 viable builds. Every discussion I've had about legendaries on map chat, people generally agree that you should only ever make them if you really just want the skin and not to stat swap. I have a legendary pistol and only ever swap between viper and harrier.
all my friends stopped playing after the first year
that's probably exactly what he was doing because the stat swap is entirely pointless
It's retarded how much people overvalue the stat switch.
The only reason it's there is since you used to have to transmute your legendary skin into an exotic weapon to use stats other than soldiers, so they fixed that by just letting you pick them.
It was never supposed to be a "now you'll never need another greatsword again!" deal
If I wanted to play mario, I'd be playing mario. Most of them are easy, and can even be fun, but that's really not my thing. I hate platformer parts in games that aren't platformers.
>the volcano one
Fuck this shit, I tried doing it with a guide but gave up halfway through because I was getting too pissed. Didn't bother with the spiderman one
>actually try out the base game
>Actually quite like the leveling experience and i'm now lvl 32.
I want to buy an expansion which one should I buy?
Too easy to level. People were level 80 and bored on day 1. No raids. World bosses were a joke until Tequatil was reworked, but by then everyone left. No real endgame content except for the same 5man over again.
Though I think the biggest was lack of raids. WoW was kept on life support because everyone was always gearing up for the next big raid tier in a few months.
PoF for mounts.
It's only crime is that it didn't meet people's expectations of it being a true sequel to gw1 I suppose. Other than that it's a fine game on it's own as far as MMO's go. It's biggest threat right now is probably NCsoft being a bunch of greedy jews.
PoF, but you can get both for only 30 dollars I think
fuck plateformer games don't want that shit in my MMO, gladly it was all optional but man i hated that S4EP4 ending
If you like the game and don't care about getting the shitty story upside down, get PoF first so you can have mounts, they make HoT much more enjoyable
Oh yeah, that was pretty bullshit at times when the jump pads would drop you to death at the top
The long one in Lion's Arch was also pretty brutal when you couldn't skip it with gliding/mounts yet.
they forsake every single good points about gw1
pvp was garbage
no gvg
no hoh
barely any build customization
no point in cooperating/playing with your friends, ever
add to that the shitty ass main story (though they got pof and the living world s3+ right) and the absolute garbage end game for the main game, as well as the forced lgbtq agenda to make sure to remind you how progressive Anet is and there you go
>It's biggest threat right now is probably NCsoft being a bunch of greedy jews.
I would say it's biggest threat is that they had 400 staff on 40k a year and the best they could do is pump out red chairs on their jewstore lmao
NCsoft is nothing compared to what happens when you have an office full of diversity representatives draining you dry.
You forgot about S4EP1, fuck that boss
The movement and jumping in GW2 fits platforming though.
Rift tried cashing into the JP hype from GW2 too, but they just didn't work at all with how you couldn't steer or stop in midair.
particle fx that will destroy your CPU
game doesn't know what theme it wants to follow
doesn't know if it's LOTR, star trek, tumblr, reddit or whatever
everything is over designed which is the cardinal sin in that field
entire game reeks of diversity hires
One new map with story content and a new fractal sometimes every 3 months ain't bad honestly.
PvP as endgame is bad.
PvE as endgame is repetitive.
WvW is a cool idea but relies on a lot of people playing which is no longer true.
GW2 is actually their only profitable franchise.It's the rest that are failing.
But yeah let's make a thread on an uneducated opinion.
>Don't listen to your fanbase
>Constantly tell your fanbase you know whats best for them
>Fanbase disappears
>So does the money
>Have to accept the fact you fucked up and cut your loses
Is there a better feeling than witnesses incompetent companies getting what they deserve?
The map is bland crap that is empty within a week
Fractals are just more grinding and you get one a year.
You don't get one every 3 months either. 3 were released last year that's 1 every 4 months.
The story content boast makes me think this post is bait or you are underage
God I just want Rytlock to be homosexual
He canonically has several children so never ever.
Where did OP mention profitability?
>check out the reddit
>that list of people being laid off
>literally all of them have tumblrina problem hair
wtf
>called guild wars 2
>it's not a sequel but a WoW spin-off
i'm out of the loop, has the healing begun?
is someone giving the un-employed chicken soup for the soul?
Wait what? Any source?
>called guild wars 2
>can't do gvg
what were they thinking?
>muh lore
nobody gives a fuck about how "the guild wars" is something in their fictive world, people read "guild wars" they want guild based pvp, easy
Don't forget the most important part:
>Complete lack of transparency
I mean they won't even give a preview of their next balance patch. They unironically believe that keeping everything secret somehow makes it more interesting.
wtf? i'm shaking right now. my boyfriend is getting me some camomile tea.
rip GW1 servers
stay hydrated
Its from the latest lore story they did. Rytlock gives his opinions on what happened during the last living world episode as well as some backstory. He has multiple kids (presumably with different women)
guildwars2.com
I made a new character recently
kinda having fun but we'll see how long that lasts
What was she even in charge of? The name is real familiar but I have no idea what she did.
PoF. Mounts make the rest of the game much better and it was built for mostly solo play. HoT has really cool map wide meta events that are fun to play, but everything requires multiple people. You can't solo some power point mini bosses and the like.
PR
GW1 apparently costs very little to operate on servers due to how it instances content based on local files.
Don't be surprised if GW2 has its plug pulled before GW1 does.
she was like the mother goose of it all.
since gw1 days. my god i'm going to cry.
>What was she even in charge of?
Deleting legitimate criticism on the forums lmao
Community relations manager for GW1. Became the forum communications team lead for 2, whatever that means. I think she was in charge of talking with the community on the forums and taking their input to the devs.
PoF for solo play (mounts, better story, prettier maps with better exploration)
HoT for group play (raids, harder maps with better map wide events)
Thanks, I’ve also checked it on wiki and he even looked out for them to protect them from bullies
>forum communications team lead
Holy fuck I am envious she had that 100k a year job for 18 years. That fat bitch had it made.
The only sensible father since the way charr treat their kids is backwards as fuck.
2019 and still no swimsuits
Too much feet
Are they ever going to make Braham less of a fuccboi character? Maybe it's the VA or the writing, but he still sounds like he doesn't like anyone and the characters aren't sure if they like him, but the Joko LW episodes had them all talking about how they're all family now. Maybe it's because I only found out about him in HoT because I missed LW 1 and 2 and the introduction was his shit with Eir, who i kind of liked.
>hate anet
>hate ncsoft
>idiot gw2 devs get canned by NCSoft
It's a complicated feeling when something you hate beats the fuck out of something else you hate.
Its the VA he hated the commander (you) for a while but was mostly cool with everyone else.
Hiring people like Price and this one.
wasn´t a true sequel
later on the devs started to focus exclusively social justice", feminism and trannies instead of actually making worth while content for the game, pandering to people that don´t even play your game via new characters and alienating old fans and potentially huge numbers of new fans as well.
i feel like every single new introduced character of the last 3 years has been either black, a strong woman that needs no men, a tranny or gay
No, because writers can't write dialogue for shit. Characters talk like Seattle fuccbois because that's the bubble they live in.
NCsoft is a warhawk but I applaud them to trim the fat of anet - I'd be pissed too looking at the breakdown of the income chart and theres this long expanse of -NOTHING- development every couple months with singular cash shop items every other week. As well those 2 unannounced projects. They honestly deserve all the criticism for having a fathead and not FIXING the golden goose they could have.
Is the GW2 general over at /vg/ still fucked?
He’s more likable in LS1 and 2. He was more goofy and friendly but a bit hotheaded with tendency to rush into things. He and Taimi had a cute big brother little sister type of relationship.
what studio do you think they are going to infect next?
Pretty much, they only communicate with plebbit that is pissing itself whenever an inconsequential token tranny NPC is added or some other stupid shit.
Eir was treated like shit for years for the sake of this trash character and then died like shit for him, so no, he won't get any better.
Are there any alive MMOs still left except WoW?
It better be. That bot is a hero.
In russia we say "piss ate the shit"
listening to the (general) fanbase and public beta testing of future content kills mmos.
Ideally the devs and QA are competent at their own game. If not, a select group of verified good players can provide focused feedback about the current game state. If a particular MMO's game/class mechanics can't make 'balance' achievable then it is better to at least make everyone feel 'broken' in their own niche rather than everyone doing the same job within a 5% of each other. But listening to the wider retardbase of cretins that inhabit the genre and making changes available on a PTS so that everyone is 100% known and feels 'old' on release day is a fucking certain death spiral for any MMO.
Living Story 2 = we can't kill Elder Dragons they are needed for balance
Living Story 3 = oh shit Balthazar is going to kill an Elder Dragon
POF = we must stop Balthazar before he kills Crystal dragon
Living Story 4 = we need to kill Crystal Dragon
top fucking wat my lads
I can't wait for the woman to become the new God of War and I can't wait for Grenth to get killed next and then get replaced by a woman.
Instant teleportation to anywhere in the world for a few silver meant that the level design had little impact thus the world left feeling meaningless.
... I like it.
This. Is there even a reason to find a guild, make friends, teams, whatever? I remember being in a guild back in 2013 when I actively played, but fuck, it was useless even back then.
>every single new introduced character of the last 3 years has been either black, a strong woman that needs no men, a tranny or gay
You haven’t been paying attention then. I’ll give you that there are a lot of new strong woman types and black characters but I’m not sure what you were expecting from an expansion set in fantasy Africa. There are 4 gay supporting characters who have been around since launch, and the only trans character I know of is a completely irrelevant background npc.
>implying WoW is not on life support
WvW was the only thing that kept me playing this game. Really feels bad that they didn't realize its potential and tried to put it down instead.
>completely irrelevant background npc.
If you stand near the busiest portal in the busiest city then you hear the guy gushing about being a tranny ever 2 minutes.
Its your problem that you read story through your ass
well to much darkies and feminist crap for me to still bother
when was the last actual sexy traditional female character or an cool masculine white male hero that wasn´t evil or a loser?
Isn't the idea for LW4 that killing Kralk is okay because Aurene will take his power which will keep the balance of the world and not have a dragon fucking up everything because it can.
> >implying WoW is not on life support
Not an argument m8
The idea was they were gonna kill Kralk and replace him with Aurene. It was a half assed plan and it backfires pretty spectacularly in the newest living story. Whether or not anet will pull something out of their ass to bring back Aurene who knows.
it's rather fitting because this story is complete shit
cool cherry picked data bro
Did you understood why you need to kill crystall dragon?
She ate Joko user. They're gonna pull some garbage and giver his reincarnation ability.
I think the point is that POF and Balthazar being a bad guy was a complete waste of everyone's time. No progress at all was made. I know it's only an MMO story but GW2 has been marketed on it's story for 5 years. Even an MMO story has to progress and not just go around in circles.
God I hope aurene is dead for good
twitter.com
>Writer of games (Guild Wars 2, ME: Andromeda, SWTOR)
>They get to keep their job
> cherry picked
> Literally most profitable games on PC
> Literally most viewed games on Twitch
> cherry picked
remember everyone, twitch views equals player count
That's still not an argument and now you are typing like a Mexican. Come on man. Look at what I wrote and then address what is wrong about it.
Sorry if I misgendered you when i said 'man'
The busiest waypoint is by the bank. Nobody idles near the fratal/wvw portals for long. There are far more irritating NPCs, like the two kids roleplaying who actually are near the busiest portal.
I like GW2 because I'm unironically a bad player, and giving every player access to a personal heal skill gives me such a relief if I decide to do a whole bunch of meta events using Exotic healing gear. In fact, I also like how accessible gear is, because once I hit 80 I was able to just roll up and make a Dragonhunter that has 120k sniping hits. It just feels so good to play for me.
Literally this. Not being able to hold a /vg/ thread is what went wrong. All cause of some butt mad faggot.
Waypoints are not portals you fucking mong and those two kids are nowhere near a portal.
>29 jan through 4th of February (aka, when literally no other game has anything going on)
>not the definition of cherry picked
I should've fucking known ncsoft would fuck up and leave some shit in.
I kind of agree, but i think the idea was if Balth killed him, not only would it upset the balance of the world, but Balth would also then fuck up everything trying to kill the Gods Kralk's power. If he succeeded, you have have a vengeful god with Elder Dragon powers destroying shit and the world would be more imbalanced from another dead Elder Dragon since Aurene wouldn't have absorbed his power to keep the balance.
>busiest portal
>busiest waypoint
Wait, what did she wrote in swtor?
they'd of just made a fucking celestial thanos to phase him from existence
Huh?
That's the opposite spectrum of transparency. Transparent doesn't mean you open up a PTS and let the playerbase effectively act as your QA/Dev team for you. Anet just needs to actually announce what they are doing. You are correct though, most of the playerbase are casual shitters that don't know what's best for them and pandering to certain crowds for balance changes is often disastrous. Tribes Ascend being one example.
This doesn't mean you have to be completely fucking silent.
Like if they announced that they are working on a Cantha expansion, it would instantly put to rest any rumors that the game would be getting shut down. Silence implies that nothing is being worked on.
There is a stable middle ground between zero communication and letting the community walk all over you. Riot has been doing it for years, and while you might hate them for other reasons or say what you want about league it's a billion dollar cash cow success.
I’m an idiot and thought you were using the terms interchangeably but my point still stands that the NPC is forgettable and that the average player probably doesn’t even know it exists.
Stop seething, you little guy with shit taste
The obsession with mounts in mmos is cancer. It started off with simple horses or Wargs for villain races, then it spiralled into glowing neon glowing flapping shit everywhere across multiple games in the genre.
>the average player probably doesn’t even know it exists.
This is true but in turn that is a sad indicator on the massive failure that is fractals aka the content they pushed so hard
user might have exaggerated a wee bit, but you can't deny that the only remotely interesting remaining characters in this story are Logan, Rytlock and Canach. Everyone else is made of cardboard and/or sjw shit like "we need gays and disabled".
Zojja is fucking over, no chance on earth she'll return, Eir is killed by bad animation in jungle. Is there a character that can be interesting that I missed?
As a matter of fact, I think they removed the kids, haven't heard them in a while.
had literally nothing to do with the design philosophy that made GW1 great
Not him but you have to be retarded to think mmo-population.com is remotely accurate in any game.
Logan is barelly appearing. Canach gets annoying really fast with his out of place edgy puns and jokes.
I like Braham and Rox. They act like real people.
I don't give a fuck about the fancy overdesigned mounts, I just want a way to quickly move through the overworld that doesn't rely on speed boosts from my classes abilities, speed boost NPCs in cities, or money sink fast travel gates, even if its just a simple horse
"levels dont matter go do what you want!" then made 70-80 of them, cut the world up into an awful grind of level tiers doing the same boring heart filling and mob grinding to level cap
didn't grow the game at all, sold expansions just for mounts
didn't have an meaningful options at all, you liquidize every single drop and buy exotic crit gear and you are done for life
weapons and loudouts have zero personality you basically just mash 12345 and it all feels the same, because also;
effects are kind of meaningless because they are weak / last for 2 seconds
made casual PvP a drop-in/drop-out server system so its impossible to get a real feel for a match unless you goto ranked - so have fun trying to crack into the autism rage circle who already made their cliques and have no time for you
changed the skill system multiple times for no other reason than to make it worse, you used to be able to choose what you wanted now you have to wait to level cap to actually have a full kit - but remember levels dont matter hehe!!
Braham acts like a fuccboi that should have grown by now, Rox barely speaks and these eyes should fall out. What's real about them?
All this is unfortunately true. Even Canach is losing his appeal due to overuse and quirky lines because Anet realized he’s the only character people care about. God I miss Zojja. I don’t know what Anet was thinking when they decided to deal with Kralkatorrik without using her. I guess there’s still LW5 but I’m somewhat doubtful.
I liked Arkk but he’s gone too. I don’t think the new entomologist guy is too bad either but that could just be because I was always biased towards the Asura.
Braham's been pretty good lately. I like the dilemma of being a good dragon they teased with Vlast and Aurene. Too bad she won't probably be getting much development without voice and the season 5 being probably the last story content they make with the game.
>The grind is so bad it's even time-gated on top of that.
fun fact, hearts didn't originally even exist in the press builds. But the NDA testers were fucking idiots and couldn't be coaxed into just exploring the world for the orange events and wanted to be hand held so they did some R&D and hastily created hearts in the last 6 months before the game launched.
ESO seem to be very lively on EU
Everything, except about half of the art. Saladmen and nucharr are abysmal.
>Oh no, they added special cosmetics for people who want to grind or throw hundred bucks to buy gold and speed craft it instantly!
Yeah, good thing legendaries have the exact same stats as much less grindy ascended gear, huh? Or that the game actually doesn't read your equipped gear in PvP.
I miss being briefly hopeful about the future of fractals when they started adding the CM stuff. Look where we are now.
I fucking hope so, I admittedly haven’t played in a couple months but having to listen to them over and over always drove me nuts.
shit servers. no ty.
I really, really hate the combat animations for GW2, hell, most of the running animations also look VERY weird, I don't know why, they don't even look bad, they just don't feel right
>currently sitting at 16.8k between Rocket League and Spore
HoT map design was kino and it felt nice that you could die in open world again.
Humans and sylvari are floaty and nimble. Try charr, they have pretty good and weighty animations.
This but unironically
Never understood why people bitched about it, it wasn't even that hard to get around
This is because all the GW1 devs were playing WoW and wanted to make their own WoW. So GW2 was driven more by WoW influence than by an evolution of what GW1 did well.
At the same time they were so afraid of repeating the mistakes of GW1 they threw the baby out with the bathwater. They killed their brilliant skills and customization systems and replaced them with a bunch of lobotmized systems.
I think at the very core Jeff Strain is the cause. He got promoted out of a game dev position to a suit position, didn't like it, and left to form a new company taking all of A.net's top talent with him. He ended taking a bunch of very experienced MMO devs and then putting them on a non-MMO project.
They removed everything that made GW1 distinct, made the game insanely grindy, and ruined the already lackluster lore.
good marketing made it look more fun than it actually ended up being
got to lv 30 and couldnt stand to play it anymore
not enough charr
1. Legendary weapons are entirely cosmetic.
2. You can get a G1 legendary weapon in less than 200 hours now doing the most stupidly inefficient shit now.
Apparently many people could volunteer to be fired, which is probably why she kept her job
>Legendary weapons are entirely cosmetic.
no.
yes.
yes.
>one click stat change
no.
>implying stat change is relevant
Unless you change your build everyday, it's useless
>moving_goal_posts.exe
>stat change that costs more than 20 weapons, takes longer than simply switching a weapon, and which you'll only use for 2-3 different stats MAX
yes.
>not buying from TP with gem converted gold
>being_retarded.exe
What is the least-played class in GW2? My money is either on revenant (expansion-bound, extremely cookie-cutter) or engineer (too many average options and nothing to really shine with).
>moved_goal_posts-end.exe
It's still the most popular MMORPG in current year, with around 2 million active characters going off fan grabbed data.
you'd still spend less by just buying a few weapons
only reason to go for legendary instead if cosmetics
She clearly means deplatforming by ignoring them and not giving them a platform to be heard. There is literally nothing wrong with that.
>Logan
Do you even play the game? Logan is the least interesting in the entire fucking game.
user, stop trying to justify the time you spent for a glorified weapon skin.
dunno. I never logged in after they banned half the game early on for taking advantage of some vendor strats to buy low from one and sell to another for more.
>the bank
The bank have this retarded shit instead.
>investing anything into this dead game
it's over. no more than a year left. screencap this.
>implying i haven't cleaned out multiple guild banks over 6 years
hehehehahahaha
I'd say revenant, especially renegade. All it gives is a ranged condi weapon and stat buffs for a pretty niche build. At least Holosmith has some pretty solid build options to go with.
Bug boy's fuckin great. I hope Taimi dies and he becomes the new token Asura
>they removed GvG
are you shitting me
leave taimi alone
>literally paid full wage to sit a computer arguing with autists
sounds awesome, I do this for free damn it
It'd be nice if they brang back Zojja too, I do kinda miss her but it's pretty much up in the air still. For whatever reason anet won't give her a new VA.
To bad the charr, and most of the race that isn't a shitty mary sue plant, got fuck over. This is probably the only reason I would log in. The latest story was shit with all the failed plan, and I hate every character.
I thought Blish was a good new character, cute too.
And then they fucking killed him off.
Why? Seriously, why do GW devs have a fetish for killing GOOD characters constantly while fucks like Braham, Logan or Taimi, stay around forever?
>Even an MMO story has to progress and not just go around in circles.
that's what WoW did for years, legion was literally burning crusade 2.0
She's bound to die tho
Yes those are the roleplaying kids I mentioned.
>think blish is cool
>comes with me on a mission
>he starts talking about his feelings
>mfw
I fucking knew they'd kill my cute little robot pal
OSRS and FFXIV
>blish is introduced
>hey he seems to be pretty coo-
>dies
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE this is the only interesting character they made in years
Robot abuse is inevitable in sci-fi, even living ones. They’ve blown up Zojja and Taimis golems two or three times each at this point. Only Job-o-Tron is safe.
Blish was too pure for this world
>"we will only lay off people working on side projects"
>*lays off a lot of big names that are well known for being "core" developers and even causes the guy responsible for Challenge mode fractals to voluntarily leave*
Fucking rest in pieces Anet you were doomed from the start
For the longest time, you couldn't organise official matches between guilds and they would just go off into world versus world to have unofficial matches. Arena.net, being the amazing community managers they are, banned the people involved with these gvgs because they were taking up space in WvW, which naturally upset a lot of people and made them abandon the game.
Now, what they have is an arena you can edit in your guild hall, but this isn't anything close to being the classic gvg system from Guild Wars 1 and still has a lot of annoyances (i.e. taking armour damage).
>This is because all the GW1 devs were playing WoW and wanted to make their own WoW. So GW2 was driven more by WoW influence than by an evolution of what GW1 did well.
but that's wrong you fag, GW1 devs were the designers of battle.net, they wanted to do their own thing and without the stupid meme about monthly subscriptions which they deemed insulting, they put paywalls behind expansions to compensate and patches were all free of charge unlike blizzcucks, then when it came time to make the chronomancer expansion Ncsoft pressed them to make a sequel, 80% of the original devs left either to make TERA or state of decay, the remaining founder o'brien became a consultant until a couple of years ago when he got fed up with all the bullshit trash job everyone was doing and became director again, shortly after I stopped playing so I have no idea who does what now but the game is still trash
Guild Wars 1 was lore richer, but 2 is fun
And given that Guild Wars 1 just got an update? I think 2 will be fine
lol
I played gw1 for over 9 years, 4 of which were probably just me making meme builds in alliance battles and jade quarry, the state the "sequel" is in makes me weep
> FFXIV
Stop forcing this meme
Didnt play too deep into it but it was definitely cookie cutter wow clone.
Considering how unique gw1 was, this one was a massive departure.
I liked the exploration and achievements, but gameplay felt quite uninspired and it ran like shit on my system.
The GvG crowd were faggots who complained about legitimate wvw changes (borderland bloodlust) since they interfered with their epic esports behind the windmill.
Not to mention, when Anet apologized to them for some drama and made them a special arena in the JP to do their shit in, the reaction was a video where some faggot was basically going "WE WON WE WON HAHA EAT THAT DEVS" and then never using the arena
>and then never using the arena
based
It's alive whether you like it or not
>and wanted to make their own WoW.
Wrong
Kekai Kotaki left before GW2 launched. GW lost its art style.
Jeremy Soule stopped doing the OST for GW2 and raged about piracy or some shit. GW lost it's iconic music and main composer.
Patrick Wyatt and Jeff Strain left before GW2 launched. GW lost TWO of it's THREE FOUNDERS, leaving behind a hole in leadership.
Emily Diehl left before GW2 launched. GW lost its past Community and Content manager that joined ArenaNet in 2006 in favor of chasing after Jeff Strain.
James Phinney left before GW2 launched. GW lost its Game Design Team Lead to chase after Jeff Strain. Past experience in Warcraft II and Diablo, then as lead designer and producer on StarCraft.
John Hargrove left before GW2 launched. A member who was there in 2005, he was the designer for the items and rewards of GW1 and GW2. His favorite creation was Nicholas the Traveler and Professor Yakkington. GW lost its rewards.
Doug Williams left before GW2 launched. Concept artist for ArenaNet.. FOR SEVEN YEARS. Left to chase after Jeff Strain, GW lost its concept art.
Xia Taptarakunekane, or Xia Taptara, was another concept artist who left before GW2 launched to chase after Jeff Strain.
Jaime Jones, another concept artist and a member of ArenaNet between the years of 2006 and 2008, left ArenaNet. More blows to concept art.
>GW2 became shit because Jeff Strain left during development
>Jeff Strain leaving crippled the company
>Jeff Strain leaving left irreversible, permanent damage
>Izaiah Cartweight still in ArenaNet
>Angel McCoy, with rejected works since 2007 and no known marks in GW1, still works in ArenaNet
>Kristen Bornemann still Head of Development, has not touched GW1 and holds no redeemable game titles on her record from Warner Bros. Games and Microsoft besides Alan Wake
>Crystin Cox still allowed inside ArenaNet HQ in Washington, past experiences at Nexon and NCSoft. Monetization Producer for GW2.
Oh top of this, they hire a bunch fucktards that NEVER play Guild Wars 1 and fuck everything up with their agenda.
She clearly means banning over hurt feefies.
>GW founders and devs leave to make a shitty zombie game
God I hate what gaming has become.
Yeh, sure
how do i rip good 3d models and animations from gw2? need to save my fhd before the game dies
Lack of holy trinity with dungeons that really could fucking use them
>Heart of Thorns
>"You must learn this Mastery before you can continue your personal story."
I just remember the idea of open world randomly spawning quests sounding cool. Then everything after going to utter shit.
>fhd
out
>Resorting to lying
It's a
>game removes holy trinity and now every class focuses on DPS to burn down meta events so Berserker gear is overpriced as all hell
episode.
>Twitch numbers meaning literally anything
Trinity was and always will be the perfect system. Letting you spread that core concept across 8-12 party members made gw1 amazing. What made it even better was you could be a support role in any of the 3.
>ywn tank ungodly fat mobs while a bonder and healing seeder cover you, all while your eles rain death
>morons who don't realize that metabuild allows sekrit techs to creep into WvW / PvP encounters for facerape against unsuspecting sheep
lmaoing at ur lyfe xD
>all while your eles rain death
with that personal 1hp necro bipper
Not enough human on Charr fucking
Is this thread still about why GW2 is shit or did gw2g show up and turn it into a furfest
having to pay for character slots is absolutely jewish considering they give you so few to begin with
Does GW ever go on sale? I want to replay it some time.
They could 100% hire some autistic community volunteers to make more content for the original. The developer kit for GW1 is god tier, that huge graphics update that launched last year was made by literally one guy just fucking around in his free time. A team of 5 hardcore fans with coding experience could make a new expansion by themselves if they had access to the kit. They would >do it for free.
All the time on Steam.
isn't GW2 Anet's only franchise?
>when your bip necro accidentally hits a trap or runs by someone with disease
The thinking mans necro was always mm
>alternatively, when your mm gets one shot and theres a rouge lvl 30 flesh golem on your ass
OH NO NO NO AHAHAHA
Explain to me what the fuck this class does.
Chill while your turrets kill everything
Depends on what you want to do:
>PVE/Raid: either enjoy a meter management burst rotation, or the most intricate dot rotation in the game as far as I know.
>PVP: be a walking, nigh unkillable asshole with a hammer.
>WVW: not sure, I don't play WVW, but the PVP build could work if you like roaming.
WvWvW was pointless zergfest that couldn't compare to DAoC RvR.
Combat was boring.
Outfit management, which the whole game revolved around, was paywalled.
Story was retarded.
No trinity.
Explain to me the power of the hammer.
press F5 to become a light blub and then proceed to spam lots of cancerous aoe ccs with high damage
Scrapper sucks in PvP, ignore that guy. Once holosmith dropped in PoF that became the go-to spec for engineers whether it was using a rifle or a shield in conquest, and other variations around holosmith for fractals and WvW. Scrapper is a bad specialitzation.
Engineer Hammer, AKA, accessed through the Scrapper Specialization, gives you a kit that sets up lightning fields and enables many, many stun combos. Couple that with many defensive options that came with core engineer that made him the go-to "bunker" class.
Yeah, been a while since I played sPvP I'll give you that. I just remember Scrapper being good at some point.
Here's a WVW variant of it:
metabattle.com
>Outfit management was paywalled.
how to spot a pvebabby
90% of what you said holds no value because what the supposedly "good" designers made was a trash zombie game, the remaining 10% fucked off to enmasse to work on tera which isn't that much better
Just gonna use this thread since it's up.
How's my necromancer guy look?
>getting hexed by playing gw2
lies, gw2 has no hexes
>killed CoH
>killed itself
>toxic death plume affecting parent's other companies
Wildstar is the most underrated disaster in the history of games. it is daikatana level bad and nobody's really talking about it. in total, NC financed this trash fire for 11 fucking years, but people will still blame them for its failure
>No mounts
youtu.be
I know it's hard to infer information when you're autistic, but the guy was clearly talking about the game upon release. Mounts are relatively new.
>made was a trash zombie game
Arguably. They want to try something different and State of Decay is fun. Tera is 10/10 combat but got shit over by Korean Dev that kept fucking it over. Regardless, the new devs fuck GW 2 up to a point I would rather just retcon the entire game.
>flight
>is actually just gliding
lmoe
Almost all the devs in that picture got laid off / removed when Mike O'Brien took back Anet's control. The rest got laid off during the purge
That and you have to consider that mounts are from an expansion, which sucks for free players.
Feels good but the game is beyond salvaging.
what set him off?
if i ever win the lottery, i'll buy out a huge portion of ncsoft's stock and force them to release the dev kit for GW1
Looks nice and clean. Simple armor skins without all the flashy auras and butterfly wings are underrated.
It doesn't matter. Some of them got paid to fuck up the game so badly, and you got this person whoring himself while he was working there. They are gone, but there might invade the game company you're paying for and fuck it up from the inside out. Guild Wars 2 is irreparable at this point because of these fucks.
/vg/ had 2 guilds for the game, and he got kicked from both because nobody wanted to deal with his extremely aggressive furry ERP bullshit.
You go into Holosmith and go back and forth between bomb kit and Holosmith Forge, dealing shit loads of damage.
If it makes you feel any better, he feels girly and shy when you say his fur is fluffy. At the time, the PC was high on Mushroom, so yeah.
Thats truly inspiring and noble. Ill join you on that.
>may one of us one day be waist deep in bitches while questing with the guild
serves him right lmao
Anet would probably seek taking him to court if they found out how damaging his shit is.
Basically the dude is heir to millions of dollars, but he is such an autistic faggot that he is using it to pay a group of koreans to complete captchas for a bot to spam the thread ( Which is why the mods can't do anything )
Different user. most of the stuff in the game is shit and you know very well they spend most of the time designing shit for the gemshop instead of working them as ingame reward.
Can't remember what triggered the initial thing, but someone said something to some autist which led to him spamming charr pictures for years.
Years later the guy who originally triggered the autist visited the thread and laughed at him for actually getting ass ravaged enough to do that shit for years, left, and the guy got even more btfo and started spam nuking the threads.
Outfits are trash since you can't mix and match
I won't deny them spending too much time on gemstore shit, but most of it actually looks pretty bad thanks to me not liking glitter shit, so I just run with base game skins outside a few ones like the Phalanx heavy set.