Borderlands 3 Speculation Thread:

Shit list desu

I can't pretend that merely because a long time has passed that Borderlands isn't a shite series with bad gunplay, and damage sponges.

stop posting, randy

>playable characters
>I think it's been revealed

who? i've been out of the loop

anthony burch got fired, if there was ever a time for there to be a good borderlands it's now.

then make yours so I can judge

pre-sequel was a differnt group that shut down pretty much immediately after

>Krieg not on based tier
He's the best character in the game, Gaige is a close second.

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I wanna go back to the sci-fi western intergalactic treasure hunter feel of the first game.

Wish granted.

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From suppose leaks.
Siren who is some black/dark skin Lady that is melee based. Hopefully cute tomboy.

Another Soldier like class. Action skill maybe a mech suit of some sort or something like that. She seems pretty cute.

An old man that uses Gadgets. Not much said about that.

A robot dressed like a homeless person that happens to be close to being a Beast master class.

redpill me on krieg, i never bough his DLC
also never played as wilhelm, maya, or nisha

This is just an HD port for consoles.

>melee-based chocolate Siren
>iron man qt
>beastmaster robot

sounds kino, you got a source?

Just change slag to an optional debuff rather than a necessity in UVHM

Psycho on steroids, go full mania and bathe in the meat chunks.

I don't play video games for the story, I dont honestly care if burch is the lead writer as long as the story horse shit is skippable
I just want some god damn hitscan so I don't have to lead sniper shots when playing with friends

A few images like this and some bloke who keeps making vids and informational stuff about it.
youtube.com/watch?v=YtL1QY-JiNw

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do they even have enough money to get jesper kyd again?

Is Borderlands 3 still happening?

What happened to Randy Pitchford possessing cheese pizza?

Due to Tales from the Borderlands he very well might return

iirc isn't the canon ending the one where rhys crushes the eye, killing jake forever?

It's going to be shit if 2 and the PS are anything to go by. Only 1 was good.

>Based
Gaige
Zer0
Jack
Krieg
Wilhelm

>Cool
Maya
Mordecai
Brick
Athena

>Alright
Axton
Nisha

>Meh
Aurelia
Roland

>Cringe
Lilith

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1 is shit, 2 is pure vidya ludo, TPS is alright.

Stop shilling Randy no one likes this series.

>only 1 was good
Maybe it's because I played 2 first, but 1 is utter shit compared to 2. I couldn't even bear playing it for more than 3-4 hours

I just want Rhys as a PC so I can calldown/digistruct Loaders.

>Tfw Lilith isn't going to die in a horrible fashion

I don't think a video game character deserves it more than her.

Maybe Eric Sparrow.

Pax East
June - October 2019. BL1 remaster shortly after Pax East
Weapon customization/creation, base customization, possibly a ship, multiple action skills
Zane the Operative, Moze the Gunner, Flak the Beastmaster, Amara the Siren
Radioactive. Cryo returns, hopefully replaces Slag permanently
Calypso (Calipso) Twins. Siren twins, Tannis somehow involved
Pandora, Promethea, Eden 6, maybe Elpis.

>calypso twins
explain

also how would radioactive be functionally different than corrosive/fire

melee focused character who encourages balls-deep playstyles, he can rampage harder and more often the more hurt he gets. Every melee kill heals him and can well 1000%+ melee damage if built correctly
other playstyles include lighting yourself on fire so you can immolate enemies more effectively yourself and a 'Bloodlust' stacking mechanic where you get faster weapon swap speeds, shorter grenade fuses, higher damage across the board and ever increasing magazine sizes so as long as you're hurting something.

Gaige's voice gets really annoying, especially when she gets anarchy stacks

Based on leaks.

Calypso twins are allegedly a brother and sister leading a group called the Children of the Vault, both are Sirens. Sister may be natural, brother likely artificial, probably something Tannis does as the Battleshit easter egg says she can't be trusted.

Radioactive, allegedly called Nuclear would work on organic armor as corrosive does on metal, apparently organic armor is common on Eden 6. Corrosive for metal, nuclear for organic, fire for flesh.

>Pre Sequel on release
>play Fragtrap and enter public lobbies
>keep spamming VaultHunter.exe to roll Funzerker every other time and waste everyones ammo
>get kicked when it stops being funny
>repeat
i like Claptrap as a concept but frankly the randomness should've stuck to just him

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based

Or make it a choice.

Basically can say, sure, or fuck off Claptrap.

Claptrap in TPS is probably the most fun character they've ever had in a BL game.

Fucking this. They had THREE fucking games to explain Jack while insisting the whole time that he had a really, REALLY good reason for enslaving his own daughter and it wasn't just a mad grab for power. Whatever it was, I don't care anymore. Get back to the alien civilization stuff from BL1. I hope they din't even mention Jack by name moving forward.

>We'll see why Jack is a bad guy in TPS
>Turns out it's all Lilith's fault

>all
Jack was kinda being a cutthroat even without Lilith's help. He does quite a few dickish things that get talked about before the game's happenings and during as well.
AND THEN Lilith does her part.

>the meriff
>the airlock
>zarpedon

That game conveniently leaves out the part where he's already got his daughter hooked up and enslaved
and he'd already manipulated the first set of vault hunters for eridium before the game started
The pre-sequel story is just a mess in general

Please dont get my Hope's up

Jack did literally nothing wrong with the Meriff, the airlock was wrong, but that was influenced by being stabved in the back by a former employee not long before, don't understand your Zarpedon point, killing her? She wanted to murfer hundreds of thousands of people, possibly millions, no matter how scared she is of the Vault blowing up moons and planets isn't a solution

I could write a fucking thesis on every single thing about TPS that didn't make any fucking sense. You don't even need to go as far as to say it was Lilith's fault to begin with. The progression of Jack "going evil" basically went like this:
>Jack is a mostly alright space station employee and is nice to you for the entire tutorial mission
>he was already a super villain working from a cubicle using angel to manipulate the BL1 vault hunters before any of this went down but forget about that, he's not evil yet
>except never mind, this literally ends the second you touch elpis now he shoots one dude in admittedly self defense and instantly goes "holy shit that felt good" out of fucking nowhere
>don't forget the side quest where he humiliates the guy he just killed showing a level of vindictiveness that just kind of happened out of nowhere too
>decides he's gonna build the constructor prototype to take back Helios
>gets an advanced ship AI that clearly has sentience so he can put it in the constructor
>it doesn't like killing even though all the constructor does at this point is make mindless robots that kill instead of it
>for some reason copying data takes more time than deleting everything then rewriting
>the moon's been blasted by the laser every 5 minutes for hours now, BUT TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE
>needing to delete anything in the first place, what the fuck was the point of needing an advanced AI if we're just gonna overwrite everything anyway?
>didn't even attempt to reason with it, saying that she just had to do it to take back Helios and that he'd put her in a different machine afterwards
>three alternatives to just deleting and rewriting
>no don't worry about that it's an unwinnable situation, do the bad thing and feel guilty

Fuck it we're in this now
>1/2

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>personality
>Borderlands
they should go back to Borderlands 1 style.
no lame joke.
small dungeons you don't have to even visit.
world that feel belivable.

but i realy don't care. i have all DLCs, but i don't to play them.

>Borderlands is good
>everything else Gearbox touches is fucking junk
>yet Gearbox still doesn’t want to make Borderlands 3, taking fucking forever to do anything about it
What is wrong with Randy?

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Does everybody hate Lilith because of the pre-sequel? I haven't played it yet.

I think your mistake here is thinking they intended to make Jack good, that wasn't the idea.

The point was to explain WHY he does the things he does, and why he still thinks he's the hero. Whether you agree with it or not, everything he does actually has a reason.

Athena is meant to be the guide, she starts off thinking he's alright, but there's something there he's hiding, believing the Lost Legion are after him for revenge. As his true self comes out she voices her disgust and eventually leaves.

Because she's written like a total, unlikeable cunt bitch whore that makes everything 10000 times worse and acts like it's all Jack's fault

>Lilith decides to betray him in the most spectacular way because HANDSOME MAN BAD!
>It's alright though, she's followed them into the vault now she can just kill Jack and stop the monster she creat-
>Just ebig punches him, accomplishing literally nothing but making him ugly and angry and then leaving

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>Aurelia
Excellent taste user

And Borderlands 2.

She's a stuck-up bitch with a massive ego. She whines about Roland's death, but had she listened and not enticed Jack with an immediate Siren replacement he'd likely still be alive.

Pre-Sequel just emphasizes this.

Randy didn't want Gearbox to forever be branded as "That one studio that makes Borderlands".

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how will they have the logo psycho shoot himself three times tho

>2/2
>>Jack getting paranoid as fuck before he had any reason to think anyone he was working with was a traitor
>airlocks the scientists but does nothing about Lilith or Roland, the two that were suspicious as fuck by default because they're vault hunters and will literally turn mid job if someone pays them better
>also the most able to fuck your shit up if they were traitors
>guess Jack is paranoid enough to murder all the scientists but paranoid enough to not instantly the heavily armed mercs that are only here because he paid them
>also Jack's office is already Bond Villain tier, even though he's middle management that got promoted from a cubicle a few months back because of Pandora
>but no really, he's lower than shit at Hyperion right now
>Moxxi was apparently planning on betraying him before any of this went down on the basis of "there's something vaguely psychopathic about you"
>even though he showed no psychopathic tendencies she could know about before this betrayal plot already was in motion
>also this is coming from the woman who LITERALLY created her own Thunderdome for psychopaths to murder each other for her amusement and Freudian sexual pleasure
>and also has no trouble with Roland or Lilith even though she only knows them because of the Thunderdome and they're no different from the other greedy, violent vault hunters she's ever met
>but no Jack is the problem, he's crazy and we can't let him live for the greater good
>Lilith still doesn't think anything she did was remotely wrong when faced with Athena's testimony because reasons
>but no Jack was the problem tho
>Jack decides to order you to murder the rest of Zarpedon's forces in a "we are the real monsters" style last assault
>even though she AND her soldiers had no problem murdering everyone on Helios, soldier, security, civvie or otherwise
>no feel bad for killing innocent soldiers that dindunuffin because the plot decides it at this point
Fuck it one more

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>>it doesn't like killing even though all the constructor does at this point is make mindless robots that kill instead of it
She didn't want to be forced into a constructor cause it felt wrong. Then the actual real problem happens cause to finalize the system and "fit" her AI inside the Constructor along with all its commands and such, she needed to effectively lose her entire personality.

Is the pre sequel worth playing

Maybe once.

>Eridium Junkie.
>Directly responsible for Jack's descent from well-intentioned hero with a shitty moral compass into batshit crazy vengeful asshole.
>Directly responsible for the Bunker not beinf BL2's final mission and Jack being able to awaken the warrior because too high on Eridium to listen.
>Instead of realizing what a selfish fuckup she's been, proceeds to try and find any reason at all to blame her actions and their consequences on others and execute them.

Why the fuck do Brick and Mordecai still put up with her shit?

Yes.

If you like Borderlands 2 there is no reason not to enjoy it.

Hope Torgue shotguns are still a thing

>one blast shoots out 20 explosive bolts

by shooting randy pitchfork

Eh, only Claptrap DLC.

Respect for Roland?

I highly doubt Mordecai is interested in leading either.

Tell me the plot of Borderlands, it's been too long.
I remember you are Vault Hunters then the vault is just some monster and then in BL2 you're overthrowing Handsome Jack's rule over stuff or something.

Reminder that Borderlands is on hold as Gearbox focuses on Project 1 vs 1.

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He’ll shoot himself with a real gun

I HAVE THE SHINIEST MEAT BICYCLE

Also bloodsplosions that keep chaining until everything is dead

Holy shit user. It would be like the Axton bug, but permanent!
And that's the only movement speed I can stand anyway!

>last one
>Jack LITERALLY SEES THE FUTURE when having the alien artifact shoot lasers in his face
>except he doesn't see the part where he fucking dies at the end
>also Lilith jumps in and ambushes him disfiguring his face but not even attempting to finish the job while she was there for no discernible reason
>none of this explains the only real question about Jack left over from BL2 so this was all pointless to begin with

Christ the worst part is that almost all of this is salvageable with just a little more attentiveness put in the writing.
See and that could work but Jack didn't even try and negotiate, and it doesn't explain why deleting sentience takes a few minutes but copying her takes literal weeks.

Having the laser constantly hit the planet but saying "no this next one might do it for real" is also the worst possible move they could have done. I know it's the whole "the world is ending but time doesn't actually flow in the game until you progress" thing but why even put yourself in that situation to begin with? Just have it be a big laser that needs time to charge and Jack realized that's what they were after because there's literally nothing else of value in Helios that Zarpedon's forces would want. It's lazy writing that compounded extremely quickly and made plot holes the size of craters as it went.

Holy fuck. I will never understand how someone could unintentionally fuck up this basic ass plot progression this fucking badly. TPS's story makes BL2 look like a fucking Greek Epic in comparison. It's that fucking bad.

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>deleting sentience takes a few minutes but copying her takes literal weeks
It's easier to destroy than to create and duplicate.
That said, I agree with all your other shit.

Wilheim becomes more and more robotic if you invest in a certain tree

What will the cover art look like?

A psycho shooting himself with 2 hands and a foot.

Borderlands plot is 4 Vault Hunters are attracted to Pandora by Tannis, Jack, who has already started monitoring the planet "on a hunch" has his daughter communicate with and manipulate the 4 VH into opening the Vault and killing the monster inside.

This event causes Eridium to expand across the planet, giving Jack a reason to get Hyperion to move to the planet in force.

Hyperion build Helios station, and Jack has the eye of the vault monster integrated as a weapon. Colonel Zarpedon of the Dahl Lost Legion wants to prevent anybody from opening the Vaults so she captures the station and tries to destroy Elpis, Pandora's moon.

Betrayal and craziness ensue, Zarpedon is stopped, Jack enters the Vault and is given a vision of the future, Lilith is a dumb bitch, attacks him, and leaves, pushing him to full insanity.

Jack takes over Pandora, invites VH's there to kill them. 6 survive and bring him down working with the original 4.

Fair enough. I guess the reason I keep harping on that isn't because it's something that necessarily makes no sense, but it's something that felt ridiculously undercooked in terms of trying to make it an unwinnable situation. Most of the problems with instantly jumping to "there's no choice though" were caused by shitty writing choices early on and that was just the part where the snowball got visibly big enough to crush a house all of a sudden, so to speak.

After Jack gets rekt it's revealed there are vaults on a ton of other planets too.

Nah dude you're just retarded and didn't pay attention to any of the dialog.

because lilith could literally teleports behind them if they ever cross her

What I really don't understand is why people in B2 behaved to you liek you're some kind of chosen one just because you survived a fucking train crash. Like what?

The psycho from the cover of BL2 doing 2 finger guns like normal but with another psycho having him in a headlock and pointing a finger gun at himself like he's lining up a murder/suicide shot.

Jack and Hyperion have been wrecking their shit so they need any help they can get I think.

It's because you're Vault Hunters, most people are aware of the original 4, building the legend, and the 6 BL2 are the first to survive Jack's trap.

>by shitty writing choices early on
Similar could be said of what they did in BL2, which could have actually been fixed with a few voice lines and text edits.
>New U stations are not canon because it helps push a singular narrative point with Roland's death
>All they had to do was:
>When Sanctuary teleports, Jack gets mad and personally removes everyone in the Resistance from the New U systems
>Angel puts the PCs back in as a way of showing that they can trust her (It's impossible to die before she starts talking about where to go next because invisible/literal walls IIRC)
>Roland dies
>Make going to the Badlands a quest to get Jack out of the New U system
>Then you go face him down
>The fucking kill yourself quest is now canon too
There, boom, all fixed.

>You get literal cannons as your action skill
What's not to like?

As long as we'll go back to BL1 tier of writing, I'll be happy.
Don't get me wrong, I don't play Borderlands for the story, but holy fucking shit fuck Burch and anything related to him

post maya

Nigger. I've gone though enough playthroughs of this shit to the point where I could hear the dialogue word for word ratting inside my skull as I typed that autistic wall of text.

Although I played the game enough out of desperately tying to get any value out of playing it. So at least you're right about one thing, I must be retarded.
You're spot on. I remember someone made a post that got saved and passed around on Yea Forums a couple of times that explained exactly what you're getting at. TPS is the same problem but got substantially worse because Anthony's cuckery went unchecked.

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Okay.

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Do you reckon anybody at Gearbox has enough sense to tone down the reddit-esque, meme bullshit from Battleborn and BL2 or does Randy somehow still have enough clout to push his infantile sensibilities

>Somehow, despite millions of dollars poured into lootershooters, Borderlands 1/2 are still the gold standard
How the fuck?

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>anybody at Gearbox has enough sense
Well, yes. But it's only going to be like 2 people out of the whole team and it's going to be miner duders who have no say in the matter.

Nope, your memory is shit. Case in point
>Jack getting paranoid as fuck before he had any reason to think anyone he was working with was a traitor
Jack only becomes paranoid after Gladstone suggests one of the scientists is a mole for Zarpedon. The fact that you haven't played for so long that it shows your purchase date is telling.

This actually.

Had Gladstone not offhand said it could be another mole he would've been fine, Jack's paranoia honed in on that.

Then why kill Gladstone if he brought it up. Also if he was really that paranoid then why did he just instantly trust Roland, Lilith, and Moxxi?

He was paranoid of the people that spent the whole time locked up on Helios, one of which told him he thought someone was a traitor, but not the three with the most ability to fuck with his plans that are all only there because he paid them?

Because the Meriff was a past employee that tried to shoot him in the back.

He doesn't trust Hyperion personnel.

Why stop there if he was that paranoid?

Because the issue at hand was the security system. Lilith and Roland wouldn't have access to it, so they couldn't be moles.
Meanwhile you have several employees with access to the system that somehow survived Helios being occupied by Zarpedon up until that point. Use your brain.

What do you mean?

He goes on to kill the CEO and turn Hyperion into a dictatorship of sorts, then tries to kill a shit-ton of people on Pandora.

i just want them to tone down the shitty valleygirl / snarky humor and work on their writing. I'm ok with some of the dialogue in BL2, but put it together with a hamfisted super sjw bro story and it kills it. also the DLC for BL2 was the very last time I purchased a season pass. There was no excuse for those lame ass giant maps filled with nothing.

BL has some good characters, well balanced gunplay and half way decent loot system. all of which could be improved, bogging it down with garbage writing will kill any ambitious project they're working on. I hope they learned some valuable lessons after pre-sequel, despite them not being the main dev team behind it.

Vladof > Maliwan > Bandit > Hyperion > Jakobs > DAHL > Tediore > Torgue
this is the objective tier list for weapon brands.
Atlas would instantly be top 3 if they ever came back

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great taste
I'd put hyperion in second and bandit after maliwan

>bandit that high

Do you suck at aiming? Vladof makes me think so.

>randy pitchford's mansion secret level
>have to find a USB to unlock level
>find it in some larpers camp, where it's medieval themed
>boss is in the basement
>it's a magician

that'd be neat guys

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no but i like fast guns and hate reloading, so Bandit satisfies that preference and Vladof is fast enough for me to not mind reloading it since they're usually a second or so long.

Hyperion's only really that high for the shotguns and those pistols with the Vladof automatic barrels, why they'd give the brand whose main gimmick is inaccuracy that improves over time a sniper rifle is beyond me

I dont really like manufacturer gimmicks

Do I get to raid the sex dungeon and free the children?

If you mean the dramatic and playstyle changing ones like Tediore reloads, DAHL burstfire or Hyperion stabilizers then I agree with you. S&S/Bandit leaning towards large mags and Vladof ROF is harmless enough if you ask me

3 psychos in a Mexican standoff