>DUDE BLACK/WHITE'S STORY IS AMAZING HOLY SHIT
I just beat it and it's fucking nothing. Wow the guy who thought nobody should have Pokemon changed his mind when he was beaten by someone who's Pokemon loved him. Wow, I'm fucking shaken to my core. I'll be mulling this one over for weeks...
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B/W/2 are great because it had good waifus
>tfw got trikt into play xenoblade2 by similar lies
It wouldn't have been so bad if I could turn off the fucking sound. I could get up to piss in every cutscene.
You just didn't get it man
Now go play BW2
Xenoblade 2 isn't even in the top 10 best selling first party games anymore. Game is a meme
>RBY: boomer shit
>GSC: boomer shit
>RSE: pretty good
>FRLG: pretty good
>DPPt: god tier
>HGSS: god tier
>BW: garbage
>BW2: garbage
>XY: not bad
>ORAS: not bad
>SM: garbage
>USUM: garbage
>LGBT: garbage
Gee, who would've seen it coming that you wouldn't enjoy Black/White. It's almost as if that game is shit and that anyone with a brain warned you.
>>BW: garbage
>>BW2: garbage
>>XY: not bad
>>ORAS: not bad
Go fuck yourself
>Dude it gets good in the 3rd game
These fucking people...
It actually did though. RBY and GSC are shit while Emerald is high tier
BW2 is objectively better than BW1 too
turbo cringe
>BLACK/WHITE'S
>Good story
Who has been saying this shit. Everyone knows Pokemon games have shit stories. B/W2 just has better content as well
I know Yea Forums has shit taste, but this is one of the worst cases I've seen so far.
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Based user triggering the Unovaborts.
I’ve never heard of anyone praising a Pokémon story or even wanting to talk about it, except maybe in pre-release Sun and Moon in regards to the nature of Ultra Beasts
No, everyone i’ve met tells me to play BW2 for the better gameplay, which is barely different from usual if you ask me. Though the difficulty slider and the shorter tutorial were very nice of them
>only stuff that was around when I was a kid is good.
It has a good story (for a pokemon game)
BW2 are just better games overall due to new areas, more postgame content, and bigger regional dex
It's basically the story of genwun (wow the guy who only cared about himself and not the journey or his Pokemon partners lost the championship match to the player, who was actually enriched by his adventure) but rolled into a plot that involves the Evil Team and box legendaries in a novel way.
these pokemon threads are getting out of control
pokemon containment board when?
back to your quarantine
>DUDE BLACK/WHITE'S STORY IS AMAZING HOLY SHIT
Literally never seen anyone write this
lol
>Being overly glib for the sake of downplaying a well-thought out story
>X/Y not bad
Literally easy af, no post game,the champion is completely forgettable garbage
>ORAS not bad
Literally soulless
So whats your opinion on the story of S/M?
Personally I think its overrtaed as fuck. It spends a shitload of time focusing a developing an NPC while your playable character remains being a smiling psycho who has no reason to be dragged into Lillie's problems.
Also the UBs were laughably badly implemented to the plot where they had no relevance to the story aside from Nihilego.
Gameplay is practically always the same but gen 5 was much faster compared to 7 and especially 4
You need to be 18+ to post here
Pokemon fans are starved for decent stories in the main game, so the first sign of something mildly competent are shilled to high heavens. The best Pokemon story is Explorers of Sky.
>Gamefreak will never release a 3rd version with meaningful additions and improvements again
it hurts bros
why were USUM so shit?
Exceeding autism levels unknown to mankind.
You have shit taste.
unovabortions are autistic. gen 5 is shit
why is HG/SS better than G/S/C?
Battle Frontier, Pokéathlon, following pokemon
>Gamefreak will never release a 3rd version again
Good, finish the fucking games for once and dont withdraw content
based
BW2 are new games with a new story, they went back to lazy 3rd version with USUM
The story is average at best it’s just pokefags will cling on to anything to justify why they’re playing a series thet has barely had any improvements over the past decade
Have you been under a rock pokefags praise this story to death
>GSC: Where are the new pokemon?
user are you sure you're not underage?
>DPPt
>god tier
SAVING A LOT OF DATA...
those are the only games where hex maniac can be found
I'm glad you at least have a brain enough to realize how stupid it was in the end
We tried to tell you BW was fucking shit in multiple areas, including story, but you listened to deaf zoomers instead
BW story relies too much on you giving a damn about the "release your pokemon" deal. It just doesn't work well when the NPCs in the game treat their Pokemon so well.
GSC is fine, its only major flaw is the postgame levels.
>green haired twink tries to change world
>btfo by 12 year old
>dad betrays twink
>electric flying pokemon should forever burn in hell
BW2 isn't signficantly better than Platinum's and you have to deal with the shitty sprite animation, critical health theme, constant zooming of the camera, and awfully designed Pokemon
oh wow best Pokemon game ever
People only praise it because of PWT
it's neat but you have Battle Frontier in the other games; it's unnecessary.
Hilbert sitting on my face
>It has a good story (for a pokemon game)
If you like dogshit JRPG plots
get the fuck out of here
>BW2 are just better games overall
Too bad it's still set in fucking Unova, continuing the same fucking story, using the same fucking engine
i don't visit /vp/
All the shit you mentioned sound like minor issues
>shit pokemon design
Oh excuse me, I thought you were trying to make a point, my bad.
Literally only unovabortions, the most stubborn, obnoxious Pokemon fanbase on 4channel hands down
>hex maniac
Truly best girl. She has more personality than all of Gen V's trainers combined.
based
nearly the whole game was a poorly designed rehash of Kanto
POKEPOCALYPSE
all the trainers in the world are dead
only may and the ???silver whatever giovannis son remain
they bang
pokeboll technology? illegal also gone for some reason
you have a cock and a fucking gun and its 2player
sdafasdf
The type is in RSE
thats the fucking shit one
the only relevant hex is in gen 6
>calls BW mildly competent
>prefers Explorers of Sky
BW and PMD:EoS faggots have the worst taste
>cool dark priest hat and finery
vs
>no hat and purple sack dress
retard
>look ma im being contrarian and shitting out retarded shit out of my mouth
retard
>Dude it gets good in the 3rd game
That's pokemon in a nutshell.
the fact that XY got screwed over says a lot really
didn't make the post for you, unovabortion
you don't even listen when people put in effort to explain to you why your games suck
>That's pokemon in a nutshell.
RS and DP were good by themselves
E and Pt made them better
Exactly
That's not the point, mouthbreather. Arguing about Pokemon design is a waste of time, shit's too subjective and generalizing 100+ never ends well. At this point you might as well argue about colors.
I keep what I said about the other points, at least the zooming and animated sprites don't get in the way of the gameplay.
Do you need to play bw in order to play bw2. I played bw in japanese so i dont know anything about the story, but bw2 seems to be the best pokemon game
you wish this was a subjective discussion
you really wish it was
the plot of bw2 is directly related to bw
The only thing that changed was the art direction. Whenever or not you will like it will come down to personal taste.
yeah, and if you have dogshit taste, you find Unova's designs awesome
You mean a new and improved Kanto.
by pokemon standards, it was alright. they could have goten in deeper with pokemon abuse or the morality of pokemon batlles but i guess GF didint want to guilt trip a bunch of kids ad lossing money.
I never said that, you humongous retard.
with this nonsequitor post right here, I'm sure you're the retard at the moment
The real question is, how is this allowed in the first place? Rerelease the same game with 10% more shit and sell it for 100% of the price. Other developers at least have the curtesy to call it what it is, a DLC and sell it for a appropriate price.
You fucks don’t actually buy both games, right? You wait for the game to be done, right user?
oh dear
The story is absolutely fucking stupid because it tries to inject real life issues into a fictional video game universe.
Did Masuda not play the four previous generations of games? Pokemon battles are nothing like illegal animal fights. It's not even comparable to sports, it's more idealistic than any form of organized competition could ever hope to be.
It would have made more sense if it's about the practice of catching with Pokeballs, and N is there to show how to befriend Pokemon without them, but even then that sounds stupid too and Ghetsis plan would be even more idiotic than it already is.
Man I have never seen taste so fucking shit.
>Oras: not bad
Underages in full force today.
Xenoblade is not first party you stupid faggot
>XY not bad
>ORAS not bad
fuck off waifufag.
>Literally only unovabortions
sure
Yes it is.
>BW: garbage
>>BW2: garbage
>>XY: not bad
>>ORAS: not bad
Christ user
I've never seen anyone praise BW's story while claiming to otherwise dislike the game
Pokemon can get away with it because it's too big and became common practise
I thought the story was good, I liked the rivals
It seems like people didn't get the memo.
Ds era pokemon is the true golden age of the franchise.
Platinum, heartgold/soulsilver and bw2 are the best game the seriez has to offer and haven't been topped since.
You can not refute or debate this.
Emerald is Top 3 game
Best decision and least questionable new designs out of III, IV, and V.
>decision
*region
I'm tired
Cute pokeboy
I prefer a Pokemon Grey so I can have Complete Kyurem.
>BW2: garbage
>XY: not bad
bruh... lookit dis dood...
Emerald is the best game though
>Playing Pikmin for the thought-provoking philosophy underlying the thick plot and not for the fun mechanics and the girls wearing few clothes
It's a 2nd Party game. Nintendo actually has lots of those, Sony and MS have like 4 each, hence the confusion.
you meant Pokemon but that too
people who don't prioritize gameplay above all else don't deserve to be considered gamers, don't deserve to have their opinions be taken seriously
Hilda thread?
I'll admit that emerald is a very close 4th, but I think phys/spec split and the movepool that came among other things put the 3 games above it, but I'll say that legendary hunting peaked with sky pillar and ancient braille cave.
It also has the best legendary mascot and strongest starter set
2nd party is not a real thing, just something fans made up to describe owned studios. Nintendo owns the Xenoblade IP, that makes it first party. Doesn't matter that it was a subsidiary of theirs that made it.
How about they stop the jewery and make one finished game
>BW2: garbage
>XY: not bad
>ORAS: not bad
cute user
>I think phys/spec split
not nearly as backbreaking as you think it is
it makes more sense in a lot of ways, but just as Pokemon like Hitmonchan benefitted from the split, Pokemon like Hypno suffered; Houndoom lost nothing due to Dark Pulse being added. Hoenn was at least designed around the split not existing with the prevalence of mixed attackers like Swampert, Salamence, and Blaziken. It's a balanced game despite it.
>the movepool that came
Gen IV added necessary moves like Dark Pulse while Gen V added cancer like Scald and useless shit like the 70 BP double battle elemental gimmick, forget their name
Gen III added just enough, like Shadow Ball, to make itself playable compared to GSC
>I'll say that legendary hunting peaked with sky pillar and ancient braille cave.
exploration in general peaked in Hoenn. Smeargle cave in the Battle Frontier, for example.
>XY: not bad
>The game that marks the decline of quality for the series isn't bad
2nd party means the studio that develops it is related to Nintendo but is not owned by Nintendo.
GameFreak and HAL Laboratory are examples.
depends on what you mean and consider by quality
XY introduced free movement with rollerskates and had customization
Give me 3 good reasons why B2W2 is bad.
I know what 2nd party means when people say it, but it isn't a real term used by the industry itself. Also, Monolith Soft is actually owned by Nintendo, not just affiliated.
1. icecream pokemon
2. garbage bag pokemon
3. ummmm shut up? it sucks!
That's BW, tardlet. It's Masuda's first foray in directing and it shows.
It's the best of any other Pokemon game and great for 4-8 years old.
You are obviously not one, so WHAT THE FUCK DID YOU EXPECT, RETARD?
>It's Masuda's first foray in directing and it shows
>being this much of a brainlet.
Pokémon was better pre-split desu
>Gen III added just enough, like Shadow Ball
But this is wrong. Shadow Ball was a gen 2 move.
>my favorite Pokemon game is the best one for babbies
SMs story and characters are objetively better but people praise BWs a lot more because it feels more shonen
Not him but I still think the phys/spec split brought more overall good than bad. Because some of the typings were stupid. Gengar was a ghost pokemon that was not allowed to use ghost moves. Because ghost was a physical typing. GHOST. Was A PHYSICAL typing. Who looks as a ghost as something that punches people in the face? But even then Gengar's attack stat made it so it would never use Ghost moves.
There was a lot of that actually. Charizard didn't want to use Flying moves because they scaled off his mediocre 84 attack stat. But there are no special flying options. Alakazam was a better boxer than Hitmonchan because all elemental punches were special. It was just a really weird time where pokemon were limited by their typings. There was no such thing as a physical fire type unless you were a mixed attacker. Meaning Chansey fucked every fire type regardless of its stats.
replace it with Dragon Claw or any other good move then
those far outnumber garbage like Knock Off
Correct. Although SM's story did interrupt you more often than BW's already somewhat intrusive story.
Found the gyms forgettable, champion and elite four were trash, post-game was shite.
Black and white was actually good though, and Masuda directed way more than XY, what are you talking about?
>Meaning Chansey fucked every fire type regardless of its stats.
If you were an electric type, you generally stood even less of a chance due to having less generous movesets and typically lacking a second physical type to rely on, like was the norm with Fire types as of Gen III (Camerupt, Blaziken)
>I still think the phys/spec split brought more overall good than bad
that's not really the debate here, though one should be had
the matter is whether lacking it de facto disqualifies it from being considered the best, which inquiring into the flaws of the split helps to enlighten
>Gengar was a ghost pokemon that was not allowed to use ghost moves. Because ghost was a physical typing. GHOST. Was A PHYSICAL typing.
that wasn't the problem
the problem was that there was only one good attacking Ghost type move until Gen IV: Shadow Ball (Night Shade too if you want to count it). Otherwise, you had Lick, which you wouldn't even want to keep on Lickitung past early game once you get something like Body Slam.
>There was a lot of that actually. Charizard didn't want to use Flying moves because they scaled off his mediocre 84 attack stat.
you could say the same about Venusaur with Poison, but in practice, you had no choice. Charizard and Dragonite and such could get away with eschewing Flying type moves because Flying type has very limited use cases, while Fire covers its primary bases and things it's not strong against.
You had me until gen 5
The primary fault of SM, and it is a glaring pulsating cancer, is the constant interruptions and text boxes. But the actual idea of the story is the direction I'd like Pokemon to go. Helping to heal a broken family goes over a lot better than fighting a giant dinosaur who sets the sky on fire with nothing but its existence. Pokemon isn't final fantasy and it should stop pretending that it is. I also like that the characters have personal lives now. Lana plays with Mallow when she's not with her family. Mallow helps with her father's restaurant. Olivia runs a jewelry shop but also lives with her cats because she can't get a boyfriend. Which why the fuck is every red blooded Male not queuing up at her front door? Is Olivia a secret psychopath?
No one has ever said a pokemon game has a good story. We said we like black and white for departing from what the last 4 gens did story wise. It's value is that it's not a clone of the last 4. No one defends the story of a game written for children tho
>Pokemon isn't final fantasy and it should stop pretending that it is.
I have no idea what you intended to mean here, why you're bringing up Final Fantasy.
Do you prefer black or white?
>criticizing the pokemin instead of the content itself
Sounds close enough to a boomer explanation
Neither. This is abhorred.
You got tricked by ds babbies, the story is maybe even worse then usual.
I tried to warn all of you, but gen V defence force is basically a cult of zealouts.
They're actually all bad.
>Previous sentence literally explains what he meant by this.
What a retard.
I guess I mean to say the over the top nature of the scenarios. Like Gen 1 and 2 was primarily against gang members and this was fine. Pokemon is a series about making friends with critters so an organization that abuses the critters would be the obvious villains. Gen 3 rolls around and introduces 2 pokemon that can start a global apocalypse just by virtue of being awake. That's not an animal anymore. That's a god. Or at least I thought it was because Gen 4 introduced the literal embodiments of time and space. Fucking what? Also another one that can make its own pocket dimension and phase through whole realities. Fucking WHAT! Also actual god? Gen 6 introduced a deer that give eternal life?
Look pokemon is at its strongest when it's working with the small scale. These games aren't equipped to deal with these types of stories. Because if a dinosaur caused such a catastrophe, it should change everything about the region. There should be a manhunt for Team Magma and at least something should be destroyed after Groudon came and left. That's why I like Gen 7's scenario. It's mostly about Lusamine being a cunt and her children gaining the strength to tell her to stop being a cunt and to be their mother. The Ultra Beasts are there but they don't really bother anything. They show up, irritate the Tapus and then they leave. At least until the Ultra games came out and introduced an interdimensional predator that feeds on light.
>BW: garbage
>BW2: garbage
>XY: not bad
>ORAS: not bad
>Gen 3 rolls around and introduces 2 pokemon that can start a global apocalypse just by virtue of being awake. That's not an animal anymore. That's a god. Or at least I thought it was because Gen 4 introduced the literal embodiments of time and space. Fucking what? Also another one that can make its own pocket dimension and phase through whole realities. Fucking WHAT! Also actual god?
awesome, yeah?
>Pokemon is a series about making friends with critters
Highly debatable considering the only metric of Friendship is an invisible value between -255 and 255 that only affects gameplay by powering up 2 moves out of the whole movepool.
Everything else is headcanon.
>Look pokemon is at its strongest when it's working with the small scale. These games aren't equipped to deal with these types of stories.
Pokemon is based on mythology and lore. You're trying to claim that expanding mythology and lore drawn upon is bad.
>That's why I like Gen 7's scenario. It's mostly about Lusamine being a cunt and her children gaining the strength to tell her to stop being a cunt and to be their mother.
So you don't want to be the protagonist of your own story, hm. The stakes of the plot shouldn't concern your character at all.
No thanks.
This vision of what Pokemon should be about is lame.
>DUDE BLACK/WHITE'S STORY IS AMAZING HOLY SHIT
Nobody said this. No pokemon game has good story.
People praise BW/BW2 on the gameplay, everyone knows the story sucks.
is this your first day on 4channel in years/ever
>>ORAS: not bad
ORAS is by far the worst game in the series, good job outing yourself as a retard.
Well I agree with you on thing, the plot should involve you. I don't think you should be a bystander and that was a failing of Gen 7. However the fact that it pulls on the reins a bit is something I appreciate.
And while expanding on the lore is fine, this isn't mythology. Articuno rescuing people from frozen mountain tops is mythology. It's a story Kanto citizens told each other after a guy on a mountaintop saw Articuno and found his way back down. It could just as easily been an angry bird annoyed that a human was in its territory or a guy who followed it down when it went down to hunt. Lugia being the Guardian of the Seas is mythology. It could just as easily been that someone saw Lugia pass by as a storm ended and now it's a story spread in Johto that Lugia can stop storms. But now we get to Kyogre and Rayquaza and they can literally, not figuratively, control the weather. Their legends aren't legends, they're 100% fact. So who controls the seas, Lugia or Kyogre? Was it actually FUG that stopped the storm in Johto and Lugia just got the credit? Is Dialga just cool with the fact that Celebi can just ignore its rules? Is Giratina an Ultra Beast or not? If Groudon is that easily accessible then why are the Red and Blue orbs protected by 2 old people and not behind like 10 layers of security since it's now possible for one person to end the world? Pokemon seems to want to be more dramatic but at the same time it can't have any real stakes. Because it's pokemon, nothing is going to permanently break. So just don't introduce a threat that should logically break everything immediately. Stick to what it's good at.
>you will never impregnate Lusamine and Lillie at the same time
N is pure kino.
Black was my favorite game and I started with Blue. Before playing it my fav was Crystal and I skipped gen 4 (played it later tho, didn't like it much, but I didn't play Platinum yet)
Fucking hell, awful taste
>Their legends aren't legends, they're 100% fact.
yes
>Pokemon seems to want to be more dramatic but at the same time it can't have any real stakes.
I don't understand how you came to this conclusion. It's never acknowledged that you whited out no matter what battle you lose. One could make the same complaint about any other game you like, such as that Ghestis doesn't take over the world in a bad ending when you fail to beat him. It makes no difference how dramatic the situation is because yes, when you boil it down to how you're playing the game, there's no real stakes involved. Your game doesn't end and your team doesn't die. Does that mean you should just cut out all the drama then? No.
>So just don't introduce a threat that should logically break everything immediately.
Again, it makes no difference because in Pokemon, failure is never an option. You just end up with a more trivial plot.
>Pokemon plot OP
>no Mystery Dungeon posts
Color me surprised
mainline
not one spinoff is mentioned in this thread
This is true, but there are enough post-gen 5 fans that there are still gonna be retards out there who think gen 6 and 7 were well designed games.
The jump to 3d was a mistake.
I recently played through Black 2 and it just reinforced my stance on it being the best game in the series. It's not about the story itself, since it's just a basic saturday-morning-cartoon-beat-the-villain deal. It's more about the presentation, the sheer amount of content and the gameplay. The optimal way to play it is with the Challenge Key, but because GF was being incompetent as usual, you have to jump through a lot of hoops just to start a playthrough with it.
If I were to rank the games based only considering third versions and remakes it would be
BW2 > HGSS > E > Pt > FRLG > C > Y > USUM > XY > ORAS
Well that's because branching stories aren't a thing in pokemon but that doesn't mean that dramatic stakes aren't possible in children's media. Hell ALTA made a brand on it before they fucked up their own reputation. If the absolute worst happened in Gen 7 then that means that Lusamine stays in the jellyfish dimension and Lillie learns to live on her own. That's not an unfeasible ending for a Pokemon game. Especially since it's the same thing that happened to N after Ghetsis tried to become king of New York. And it's thousands of times more likely than whatever the fuck Cyrus was planning to do.
Usually you'd see a few guys brag about PMD writing or using it as a way to mention the usual "Game Freak sucks" deal, so it's a bit surprising to me.
Personally, I liked how GSC and its remakes showed the change in Kanto over the years, both positive and negative. Less biker gangs and criminals, but a few things were lost between the timegap, like Cinnibar and Lavender Tower being disrespectfully replaced by a more corporate Radio Tower. It's not too in-your-face, but showing off the region as a place that changes throughout the years was more interesting than having things be exactly the same as it was in the "glory days."
It's a great ranking. Mine would be:
BW2 > E > Pt > BW > HGSS > USUM > FRLG > C > Y > XY > ORAS
I included BW since there are a few things I like more than BW2, like only having new Pokemon for the main game and the story/characters.
PMD Explorers is absolute kiddie shit and Rescue Team only slightly has less of it, but it's still cringeworthy when you're reading it as an adult
In my opinion focusing on characters that aren’t really related to you (they aren’t family or long time friends) while diminishing the level of world building (the locales in SM aren’t that interesting) caused me to not being that invested in the story. Older pokemon games felt like an adventure, in which you discovered the world and unraveled its many mysteries, Alola felt like going in a vacation to a place you kind of feel indifferent about.
Which what I wish to God LGPE would've did. Instead of it being frozen in 1996. What's changed in Kanto? There's so much they could've did especially since the place is basically run by mad scientists. Did teleporter technology from Silph Co become common place? Especially since Saffron gym also uses it? What was Bill doing with his gene splicing tech? I know he was perfecting the box system but did he ever do anything with it? What about the rail system introduced in gen 2? They have trans regional travel now, was that the only rail system they made? What's the point of going back to a place you've already been if you're not going to reimagine it?
>playing pkmn for the story
you absolute retard missed the entire point of creature collecting/battling game,
plus it dont help you let it hype you up, it is actually good if you dont expect silent hill tier deepness
>Did teleporter technology from Silph Co become common place?
now that you mention the games keep this super lowkey every time and use it for nothing more than gyms and villainous dungeon gimmicks
it's actually baffling how casual the thing is to the devs and players
Alola WAS a guided tour which is why I'll probably never play it again. Like in gen 1 you had to figure out for yourself how to get past the Snorlax. It was a wild pokemon that just decided to take a nap on the road you needed to get past. It's your adventure, you figure it out. But in Alola the roadblocks are arbitrary as fuck. On UlaUla island you can't go south because Olivia really wants you to meet Lana and Mallow for some reason. Also she feels like you can't take the Diglett even though that should be your choice. You can't go East to the Hano Grand Resort because some asshole won't move his dog. Even though there's nothing really there. So Gen 7 turns into a game of "find the cutscene trigger" rather than you being on an adventure. That's why I say I HATE the execution of Gen 7's story even if I like the tone because I do like that it became more character focused rather than the characters being experience buckets that talk sometimes.
Black/Whites story was potentially cool but they absolutely soiled it when they revealed that Ghetsis was just a comical mustache twirling evil looking to power grab the region and N was played for a fool and instantly repented and changed methods upon learning this. The moral ambiguity of the conflict between the player character and team plasma was the only interesting component of the story and they didnt have the balls to follow through at all
Even before Ghetsis and N get ruined at the last second the game made a point of showing Plasma Grunts exclusively being pieces of shit up until that point, meaning that Team Plasma was functionally no different than Rocket or the others. There wasnt a single goddamn member of the organization written in who genuinely believed in what they were doing, every single member either exclusively believed in the mission of helping Pokemon, or exclusively supported the methods of taking the Pokemon by force, there wasn't a single character who genuinely believed in delving into dirty methods to save Pokemon. You never once fight a team skull grunt who genuinely believes in the mission of the organization, they're ALWAYS written like criminal members of the other teams masquerading behind morals. A single misguided moral character who believes taking drastic measures is the only option left would have done wonders to salvage the team. And no, N isn't misguided, hes being lied to, a character who is fully aware of the actions of team plasma and still believes themselves to be morally right is what the game needed
At no point in time does the game actually place the player in the moral conflict of stomping on somebody who genuinely loves Pokemon in order to stop the evil teams plans. Completely wasting the interesting potential of the team
Goddamn Team Skull ended up being more sympathetic villains. Because while the abloobloo we had a shitty upbringing sympathy card is way lower brow they actually executed it correctly
You'd think that HM2 and even the Ride Pager would become trivial after this was invented. No one even talks about it.
as someone who only ever watched the cartoon i can tell yours is bullshit
I stopped playing at BW.
Should I play BW2 or give XY/SM a chance?
pretty good opinion, but I kinda agree with that it almost basically never could have been executed well, without utterly embarrassing the antagonists, which they would never have done to Gary Stu N
But every Pokemon has excellent girls. Literally the constantly great thing about the series.
BW2 are masterworks, among the top 3 games in the series with Platinum and HGSS.
3DS and beyond or pure shit. Just utter unmemorable mediocrity with a heaping of technical issues on top.
The Switch needed a RPG badly, that’s why it of so shilled.
I enjoyed XY more than BW but coming directly off BW severely lowered my expectations
it also doesn't change the fact it has many objective flaws
The anime really couldn’t capture the spirit of the manga.
also be wary of posters such as who shower unqualified praise upon any game, because the truth is that no Pokemon game ever made has been perfect.
Basically,
>game is set in america
>literally called black and white
>villain team is full of delusional cultists who get kiked over by their leader who wants to be the king jew
that post doesn't use the word perfect you seething 3dsbabby
The problem with Team Plasma's "morals" is that by virtue of being an E rated series, we can never really have too much genuine Pokemon abuse on screen so that we could even begin to justify monster rights activists. Instead we have a cast of drooling retards who despite decades of professional study by respected researchers, have no idea why Pokemon are sticking with humanity and thus actually harbor doubts when Team Plasma claims that they'd be better off 'liberated'. Like really, the story has always been that Pokemon like humans and thus form trainer-Pokemon relationships with them, but in-universe characters are completely oblivious to these feelings it seems.
Despite all the things that are lacking in BW's story, I still really like Ghetsis as a villain. Dude's an unrepentant narcissist, and does a good job at that.
>DPPt: god tier
>HGSS: god tier
bas-
>XY: not bad
Fucking disgusting. This shit is bottom of the barrel garbage with SM.
...
But I didn't defend BW1, it's actually super mediocre.
BW2 are master class though, it'd take a pleb to not be able to recognize that
>RSE: pretty good
The villains are retarded, even more so than Team Plasma and Flare combined.
Hey You, Pikachu is the only good Pokemon game to ever exist.
it inherits the majority of BW's flaws while only adding a locked hard mode and a watered down I-clapped-when-I-saw-[X] Battle Frontier equivalent in return
O B S E S S E D
Flare is hands down the worst team ever
What's so bad about Team NSDAP?
He's basically Samuel L Jackson from Kingsman
>Tame the god of death in order to nuke the world
>Worst
Imagine having a taste this shit. He was even good in the anime. The worst team will always be Aqua.
Even Gen 7 had better ones
Gen 7.
BW was shit
discount Cyrus dandy aesthete nihilist with no reason to be so drastic
>tfw should have been Continental but got Snow White instead
Based
At least I wanted to use the pokemon, GenVfag
>Tame the god of death in order to nuke the world
his logic behind why this must be done is legitimately retarded
his X dialogue with Diantha makes more sense but Yveltal is without question the better legendary for the plot.
>I-clapped-when-I-saw-[X] Battle Frontier equivalent
>challenging postgame is not good
Since when do villains in Pokémon make fucking sense?
>Time to use my superior force to steal people's Pokémon
>Go Rattata
Even if you cant show stuff like pokemon abuse, team Plasma is ridicolously bad written, from the very beginning they cant keep at all the guise of being allies of pokemon, the part when they abuse the munna for the dream mist clearly showed them as evil, and then they get deceived by the musharna, showing that theyre incompetent, the only redeeming part about them is Ghetsis.
>team flare
>good
Just like the region itself, Team Flare is unmemorable as fuck.
>I recently played through Black 2 and it just reinforced my trash taste
Yea Forums is the only place yall can go to talk about Unova huh...
>it inherits the majority of BW's flaws
based retard
Work on your memory faggot. Best region and team since Sinnoh.
>The story is absolutely fucking stupid because it tries to inject real life issues into a fictional video game universe.
Its funny that you say this when there are literal retards who give Team Galactic shit for doing the complete opposite by which I mean capturing god and remaking the universe. To this day I still respect Cyrus as a villain because he actually went through the effort of doing his homework well most of it. We all know how things went down in Platinum. And nearly made his dreams a reality. You could argue that the real problem with Team Galactic was that all the members were idiots who blindly followed a man who promised them a new world but that also falls into what Galactic is, a cult. And something most sane people know for a fact is that cults are normally a pack of idiots following someone who is either using them for money or the head idiot who believes in their own cause.
Grunts being idiots is nothing new though.
This is 100% Game Freaks fault because they absolutely refuse to give NPCs competent teams. And I'm not saying Smogon approved bullshit but why is the final villain rush still populated with NFE pokemon like Zubats? Especially when by that point most people would have a fully evolved team?
>I-I can't remember it!
I'm convinced you unovabortions are teenagers or legitimate manchildren with how shoddy your strawmen are
>"""challenging postgame""" is one feature
>not only redeems the whole game but somehow makes it the objective best in the series
I don't know, nuking the world and remaking it is a lot smarter than straight up flooding it. Tell me, wise guy. Where the fuck are we going to live if you flood the fucking world? I'm not growing gills anytime soon.
That's good though. In B/W the villains all carry around that fucking rat with foresight and super fang. It gets super fucking annoying super fucking fast.
It's set in america, so clearly it would get a big fanbase... in america
Since uncontroversially at the earliest Gen IV.
This. Team flare are a joke, XY would be better without them.
is it popular on reddit?
I wouldn't know, since I don't go there.
Unova is huge so maybe he's on to something
this is the ONLY memorable town in XY
trash tier region overall
Yeah I mean what is widest p9kemon sekection by far and one of the most varied regions with tons different area from lush forests to deserts and from mountain icy tops to sunny beaches.
But yeah keep sucking that gen 1/2 cock.
Sinnohfetus have severe shit taste.
Google is your friend, retard
>It's set in america, so clearly it would get a big fanbase... in america
I am not even from anywhere near america you retard.
You sure about that? Lysandre was a true hero.
>Having tastes this shit
>Alolantard
It adds up...
You're thinking of another game. Everyone agrees that Kalos is the best region in forever. Leagues above Alola.
islands, arks, and sealabs
this isn't hard
This time it isn't a third edition though. It's a continuation of the first game. There are new gyms, new towns, new antagonists, you go through the region in a different order, etc.
It only plays in the same region, that's it.
Alola having objectively better girls and better looking mons doesn't make the person who said it an alolatard.
It makes you a seething unovabort tho
In the games, maybe.
Special actually makes them competent and utilized their illuminati status well.
>Rocket
The best team. They want money. Pokemon brings them money. So they steal and abuse Pokemon to get money. Simple.
>Magma/ Aqua
Most retarded. They think solely of Pokemon to the point where they want to remake the environment. Not understanding that this will not only kill all Pokemon but also all humans
>Galactic
I don't want to comment too much on these guys because I can't even wrap my head around what Cyrus's new world even looks like. Random wormholes? Black holes and time paradoxes around every corner? They at least have the excuse of being crazy people.
>Plasma
Their argument would be sound if they didn't live in a Pokemon utopia. Also Ghetsis fucks everything up by saying that everything Plasma stands for is a lie
>Flare
Literally the plot of Kingsman
>Skull
Just a bunch of punk kids breaking shit because they felt rejected by society. Such on paper sounds retarded but in a society obsessed with Pokemon I imagine you'd be ostracized if you were bad at pokemon. They were okay.
>Aether
Team Rocket just nicer about it and not focused on money. They do turn a new Leaf though.
>Yeah I mean what is widest p9kemon sekection by far
bloat populated by shit designs that taint the Pokedex which happen to come from a particular region
>one of the most varied regions
with a linear design and no logic behind the array of ecosystems you find in it
>But yeah keep sucking that gen 1/2 cock.
Man you sure are desperate to defend Unova that you need to attack other gens, especially when the conversant hasn't allied themself with any particular one
I wish I could post the crying unovabortion but it's already in the thread
Alola's mons are hideous abominations while Kalos' mons are the closest we've gotten to Gen 1 quality in over a decade.
Seriously the ultra beasts are so ugly that it will probably cause children to be mentally retarded. Like they'll be unable to percieve colors properly.
Lysandre is ok. The problem its the grunts, theyre stupid. They seem to have no idea about what Lysandre is trying to acomplish and they dont care either, i think the game implied they were rich spoiled teens or something. The only legit team flare members are Lysandre and Xerosic.
>Literally easy af, no post game,the champion is completely forgettable garbage
So we're talking about BW1 here, like OP said.
Generations also made Lysandre's theme sound good but that doesn't mean it's in the game
Ultra beasts are ultra beasts, so the design is supposed to not look like earth pokemon.
Unovamons were supposed to look like pokemon and were bad at it
>Alola's mons are hideous abominations
>proceeds to use Ultra Beast as an example which are literally designed to be as ayylmao as possible and nothing like what a Pokemon would be in universe
Congrats, you're a god damn idiot.
There's no problem. They are functioning members of society that know to dress for the occasion. They can probably find a real job after the whole Flare thing.
Who the fuck is going to give a job to Cyrus' soulless weirdoes?
Giovanni had no motivation to form Team Rocket if it's true that he used to love being a trainer as is revealed after being defeated in the gym battle
Yeah, because there are like 3 new Pokémon in total in alola except for recolors from Gen 1.
>Alola's mons are hideous abominations
>the ultra beasts are so ugly
It doesn't seem like a stretch to say that Giovanni started out loving Pokemon and then got obsessed with the money. And then created a gang to get more money
You're not listening you fucking candy ass. You're allowed to have your argument, just don't use the UBs as an example. It makes you look stupid.
>with a linear design
So you never played BW2?
Good to know that I don't have to waste my time on a tard like you.
Here is my last (you).
It's not like it was anything to write home about either. UN is just a big ass hungry lamp, nothing more.
Does anyone know the name of this song? I bailed on the anime after finding out that Ash jobs in the finals.
Sinnohfags, everyone. The worst type of Pokemon fans
You mean Iku Z the main theme of pokemon XYZ?
youtube.com
That doesn't make sense though. People are hypocritical and full of controversies. Giovanni could be a great trainer for his own Pokemon (and he is powerful at the very least, being the strongest of Kanto's gym leaders and commanding an entire criminal organisation) while still treating other Pokemon entirely as a business for profit and power.
Never played Alola but Skull had the best premise behind the group of any of the organizations in the mainline games.
Fuck off to Pokefags
What the hell are the Yea Forums mods doing?
Yeah, but team Rocket were always portrayed as criminals, every single time you encounter them they threaten you, everything they do is for profit, it feels like theyre doing their best to stop you and will harm you if they manage to beat your pokemon. Obviously this is just storywise and nothing actually happens if you lose, but feels a lot better than 'duhr we're team plasma and we're the good guys, we will help free pokemon from the evil humans' and then proceed to actually abuse them.
based
ignore the retards who defend shit like Blacephelon and Buzzwole and spout the koolaid that they're """alien""" designs
>nothing actually happens if you lose
Aside from them stealing half your savings and knocking you the fuck out, sending you to the hospital?
>Not understanding that this will not only kill all Pokemon but also all humans
>kill all Pokemon
Except that's wrong. If Kyogre came out on top the scales would've tipped in favor of Pokemon that lives in the oceans. Groudons is debatable due to the level of its droughts and the effect it would have on the world.
Cyrus new world is exactly what it sounds like, one without emotion and I'm sure there's examples of these worlds in other media and literature. The common example is one completely gray where everyone goes about there lives as meaningless husk. I explained earlier in the thread that Galactic itself is a cult and acts as a cult would, blindly following a leader without knowing the real end game.
>Aether
>Team Rocket just nicer about it and not focused on money
Did you speed through the game? Team Aether hardly anything like Team Rocket.
But user Aether isn't an evil team at all. This is not me being finicky, everyone in Aether really fucking loves Pokemon, it's just that Lusamine's methods weren't correct and Faba is just a little greedy.
no it doesn't
makes you all look like cocksucking AKSCHUALLIers who forgive shit designs because Gamefreak told you they're not really Pokemon, despite mechanically being no different from legendaries
Yeah, but everybody in Pokemon does that, even the wimpy Bug Catchers and shorts-obsessed Youngsters.
isn't that what they are?
>AKSCHUALLIers who forgive shit designs because Gamefreak told you
But he's not defending gen V.
Such is life rural japan. Be glad they didn't cut your tongue out.
Everyone is in Team Rocket?!?
You would think, but no. Everybody just likes beating you up and taking your money.
>RBY
>GSC
Listen you glue sucking retard, I don't give a fuck how the game functions mechanically. We talking strictly from a design standpoint and UBs were designed to be as out of this world as possible. So out of this world that they weren't even supposed to resemble what the in-universe Pokemon would look like and surprise, they achieved it. Don't get mad at me because I called your bitch ass out for trying to use them as weight for your argument.
>UBs were designed to be as out of this world as possible
>literally a fucking clown and bundle of power cables man
the fuck is wrong with you
99% of the time people that say some game has a GREAT STORY are retarded fucking nerds that haven't opened a book in their lives.
Or atleast that's the only explanation I can find for so many insipid people that say Mother 3 is a narrative pillar.
>452344246
Okay retard, you're getting any more attention fro me.
Pokemon officially died after HG/SS were released. Those, along with Platinum, were the final good games of a once great franchise. Anything from B/W to whatever horseshit they released to now is in fact garbage and should be treated as such. This is a fact, and not an opinion.
They're team misguided youth. I like them a lot because of the interactions you have with them. You troll them, they troll you back. Makes me wish we get a team that has tons of bantz with you instead of just being stupid.
I don't have to read and refute your pitiful retardation anymore?
sweeeeet
thnx bro
Mother 3 is a complete disaster. Japan fucking hates it and blames it for killing the entire franchise.
>He's still plays Pokemon after Gen 1
as long as you recognize HG/SS were flawed games and not some sort of pinnacle of the franchise
Yeah, now you can focus on sucking that entire bottle of glue.
It's an opinion and a terrible one at that. Your rampant idiocy is a fact.
Of course, not perfect, but still good.
Books are boring though
Ah, yes, the Mother "franchise".
How do you kill a dead franchise?
that's a gross simplification of them
they're team failures who suck at Pokemon training in one aspect or another for one reason or another
they adopt the title of underdogs to the extent that their leader champions fucking Bug Pokemon of all types
they try to carve out an existence and improve themselves until one day they can prove everyone wrong about their true potential and hidden strength
Unovaborts everyone
I wasn't referencing the Mystery Dungeon series, as I enjoyed those, just the trainer-based titles of the franchise.
respectable
Unova is overrated as hell, move on now.
you accusing me of being a unovabortion when I've used the word 4 times ITT just goes to show how confused and fractured this fanbase has become
just infinite strawmans like UNOVA FAILED BECAUSE GENWUNNERS and ONLY UNOVABORTS HATED BASED ALOLA
I'll argue that they actually get better, at least mechanically. The problem is that the developers make improvements in a game and dont keep them for the next ones. So we're trapped eternally in a cycle of hoping that the next game will be the definitive pokemon experience, and getting flawed games everytime.
>tfw we will never have a Pokémon game for adults
Some improvements are better than others though. Even though a lot of people here hate them I actually like Mega Evolutions. Or more accurately I like the concept of them. Not only do people get new forms of their favorite Pokemon but they also shake up the formula a little bit. Now weak Pokemon can get a sharp strength boost and a new ability to help them keep up with the current power level. The problem is that Pokemon that didn't need mega evolutions got them. Pidgeot, Sableye, Blastoise, Kangaskhan, and Beedrill all desperately needed Mega Evolutions because they were irredeemable shit before. But why did Salamence, Metagross, Mewtwo, and fucking Rayquaza need mega evolutions?
Why are aloalantards retarded?
>mature games for mature gamers such as myself
the games could use better writing and less simplified designs, but still, the maturity of Gen III and Gen IV was quite alright for Pokemon as an adult; you just need to supplement it with a healthy dose of headcanon
> implying an RPG that hands over near complete battle planning freedom to the player isn't for adults
When I was a child, I beat Ruby sandbagging with Groudon. When I was a man, I solo'd the E4 with Dustox.
Video games don't have good stories in general. Never believe those who hype them up.
if you're still into Pokemon at that point you can only be a tasteless corporate drone who's more attached to familarity than quality and doesn't like risking their world being shattered by questioning their faith
FE4 had a good story. Terranigma too. Star Control 2 is a classic. Even Pokémon has good stories, if you go to the PMD series.
>ut why did Salamence, Metagross, Mewtwo, and fucking Rayquaza need mega evolutions?
Because GF doesn't pander exclusively to you, they pander to everyone. that's why 50% Megas are for good mons and 50% are for shit mons. Outside really specific cases like Rayquaza not much changed too: Salamence, Metagross and Mewtwo were already good before, even without megas shitmons didn't have a chance against them regardless.
>don't mind us, just being deceptively simple secretly complex game franchises that quietly redpill you in your youth about game design
>if you're still into Pokemon at that point you can only be a tasteless corporate drone who's more attached to familarity than quality
But that first applies to the gen 5 games.
Gens 3 and 4 are the only ones that matter because it's the only period of time where competitive battling wasn't complete as. The precipice of power creep before it tumbled over the edge. It was shit before and has been shit since
The single player has never been good
It applies to every gen after Gen 2.
>Celebi/Suicune rape
>Good
this user agrees
It applies to gen 2 too.
>competitive pokemon
How does it feel to be even more autistic than smash kiddies
Yeah, but imagine the kind of game we could have now if they kept the good ones. For example: Visiting regions from older games, but in a different time (GSC), a post game facility with different kinds of battles a la battle frontier (Emerald), a challenging Champion that we get to know before the Elite four, participates in the story and will kick your ass (Platinum), actual difficulty settings instead of relying in romhacks or self imposed challenges (BW2), pokemon in the world ouside their pokeballs (HGSS)
feels good because I get to enjoy based games like Project M and Brawl Minus while you're stuck with tr4sh and tr4.5h lmao
It's the only worthwhile reason the play pokemon. If you want a single player monster rpg you are far better served by DQM and a slew of others. Pokemon is bottom of the barrel when it comes to single player
Yes but mega shitmoms at least had a chance. A no guard heatwave from Mega Pidgeot's 135 special attack is enough to make Metagross rethink it's battle plan and switch out. Mega bee 150 attack stat with adaptability stacked on it will make even physical walls groan. Marketable Pokemon were always going to get but is Salamence really a household name to anyone other than competitive players? Because now they have to deal with a Pokemon that's so powerful everyone's team composition has to have at least one answer to it or they just lose. And the fact that Mega Fug gets a tier all to itself everything that needs to be said about it
That would be SMT
This. Most people wont notice, or probably not care, but competitive pokemon is disgustingly complex.
>If you want a single player monster rpg you are far better served by DQM and a slew of others.
JRPGs are generic, cliche laden rehashed blobs of ass though with the widely considered peak of the genre's combat, Nocturne, being a buff debuff fest with the depth of a puddle of circlejerked cum
>JRPGs are generic, cliche laden rehashed blobs of ass though
Okay but so is pokemon
Gen 2 at least felt like a great sequel. Everything else felt like shitty cash grab for brand sake.
no it isn't before Gen V, which is why unovabortions love it so much
unless you count its own tropes that it invented itself, which it doesn't even follow all the time (going from asshole rival to best friend rival; single rival to multiple rivals; champion rival to nobody rival)
>it was good for its time
Make BW and BW2 not bad, and XY and ORAS garbage and I agree
whats wrong with oras
It's garbage.
play bw2 too you fucking retard
Why is it garbage?
>red and blue
>can access 80% of the pokedex by the second badge
>have access to near the entire world after the first HM
>can taskle half of the gyms in any order
>locations like the burned lab, power plant and victory road feel like actual, labyrinthine dungeons you can get semi lost in
Gen 1 is far from perfect and busted in a number of ways, but why did they break away from this formula? Future games should have been this but better. Instead it's only become more structured and straight forward with each new entry
It's complex but in a weird way. Because of power creep there are so many options accounting for them all is impossible. Like minimize is banned. Even though there are several answers to it. There's perfect accuracy moves, there's phasing moves like roar, there's moves like Haze. But if Minimize were allowed to hang around then those moves would be mandated on every team. Baton Pass could turn any pokemon into a powerhouse. Which is great for shitmons that need the help but this also means that already good Pokemon suddenly become god.
So Pokemon at the highest levels becomes a game where you have to keep trying to keep the battles from just exploding from its own volatility
Bad 3D graphics, and they took out all of the end game content that made gen 3 fun.
That's what keeps it interesting. Like juggling with two nukes.
Anyone know if it's possible to start BW2 in challenge mode somehow? Is there a mod/hack that unlocks it?
>why were USUM so shit?
it changed things instead of adding more than a tiny bit of new stuff, and fixed almost none of the problems the vanilla games had, and also made them incompatible with each other
when you buff them so disgustingly there's a certain point at which it's silly to acknowledge them as fundamentally the same Pokemon
>ah yeah 150 base speed and attack---my bro Beedrill is totally kicking ass! now you all see he was based all along
Hence the disgustingly, its complex, but no in a fun way.
>Like minimize is banned
fuck Smogon though
Because people don't want to get lost and they don't want to not know where to go. They don't want to feel like the game is aimless and unstructured and they don't want to end up in a high level place only to find out they did things "in the wrong way".
People don't want to play game developer, they want to play a game.
Smogon did nothing wrong
It is in vgc too though, and is a rule set built into the actual game
Probably a bunch of kids couldn't defeat the games. Personally I remember getting stuck in a couple places, putting the wrong TM moves in my pokemon, using the missingno cheat and getting destroyed by the elite 4. Ironically that actually made the game way more fun.
Probably because most people didn't even realize you could do this. I know this is all anecdotal, but most people I know who grew up playing Pokemon didn't even know you could beat the gym leaders in any order you want once you get cut and rock smash. And the only reason they know now is because I told, and I only knew it because /vp/ told me you could.
>*puts something into the game*
>oh no we take it back that was a mistake
>all this other bullshit is fine though
You say that like other competitive games don't do the same thing.
I dedicated vast resources to train my Beedrill in Red into a Psychic-killer. It went about as well as you'd expect. Megas ensured no other kid would have to endure teh same disappointment that I did.
I've heard people didn't even know you could reach Cinnabar from Fuschia
To be fair I was that kid who got lost in Seafoam Islands. Maybe I was a dumb dumb then again I was 6
Even as a kid I distinctly remember doing sabrina and koga out if order. Now that I think about it I'm still not sure which one you're intended to do first
Konami does it because they're greedy and put out broken stuff on purpose to sell cards knowing full well it messes up the game
GameFreak does it out of genuine incompetence
>>DUDE BLACK/WHITE'S STORY IS AMAZING HOLY SHIT
>said nobody ever
It's a good game, but like a lot of other RPGs and the like, it takes way too long to get to the meat of it. Both story and especially gameplay wise.
Took me forever to use the Pokéflute on Snorlax. I forgot that I even had it and kept trying to use Awakenings.
A lot of people say that
>A no guard heatwave from Mega Pidgeot's 135 special attack is enough to make Metagross rethink it's battle plan and switch out. Mega bee 150 attack stat with adaptability stacked on it will make even physical walls groan
That happens against the popularmegas too. And popularmega's base version could already deal with unpopularmega's megas without worry. Nothing changed.
>Marketable Pokemon were always going to get but is Salamence really a household name to anyone other than competitive players?
I just told you that they pander to everyone. Including competitive players.
Yeah sure thing dude.
>remember Pikachu? well now he's a wittle baby and kyut!
Not commercial at all.
So BW couldn't possibly be anything but "awful" or "shit".
>2 decades and they still haven't even attempted to fix Ledian
>not even a bandaid mega evolution
Why. Super sentai bug is my favorite and hes straight up worst pokemon in the game
desu I honestly didn't even think of surfing down from pallet until long after I had played Red and Blue.
Name 1 (One) person who has ever said that Pokemon Black and/or White had an, and I quote, "AMAZING" story.
>it changed things instead of adding more than a tiny bit of new stuff,
....so like the other 2 third version games.
woke
Would have been nice to see the full dragon
Just go on /vp/ or any other pokemon forum board. Most people love BW/BW2 because of the story. Mainly because it's the first passable story in a series full of terrible stories so the average Pokemon fan blows it out of proportions.
Platinum is great, but people defending Diamond and Pearl are beyond help.
There's your problem. /vp/ isn't people.
I agree with you. but GSC is pretty good.
Pretty much all the Johto Pokemon were garbage. The few decent ones weren't even available in their own region back in Gen2.
sorry, don't follow e-celebs
don't even know what Verlisify thinks of Unova
>I just beat it and it's fucking N
Holy zoomer, Batman
>verlisify
You have to go
I dont follow ecelebs either.
I don't even fucking know who verlisify is.
Diamond and Pearl had a better beginning, you could catch Skuntank, and the Pokemon League was harder.
the most infamous Pokemon e-celeb
it's about as unspeakable to be a music fan and not know who Lennon was
This. An E4 having a past region's two ultra shitty starting bugs instead of Scizor and Yanmega made it harder.
Basically a gay furry who starts shit with other people and everyone hates him but he won't go away.
>BW: garbage
>BW2: garbage
>XY: not bad
>ORAS: not bad
are you this stupid faggot? how old are you?
I mean I dont mind playing pokemon from time to time but I'm sure as hell not gonna put posters of the little fuckers up in my room and masturbate to some sweaty nerd who has opinions on the game.
I do like the technical aspects of how they managed to pull off a game like pokemon on the old gameboy carts. That shit is very interesting.
the other third version games don't gut the plot, add a few cutscenes, and call it a day
BW and B2W2s stories are good. They're not blow your socks off, but they're good. In combination with the good gameplay, this is why they're liked. It's just a good game that puts the pieces together well. It doesn't break any new ground or trying to remaster Evangelion, but it doesn't have to, nor was it looking to.
I don't get why everything now has to be 11/10 or it's shit, this goes for both sides. Stop hyping things up to the end of the planet just to justify liking it, and stop only demanding the best of the best for your experiences. It's OK to like things that are simply good.
if you're only gonna play one pokemon game then emerald is probably your best bet
>XY: not bad
>GSC: boomer shit
Son i'll fucking bend you over my knee and give you a paddlin for that comment.
>HGSS: god tier
On second thought, let me ask your parents to put you up for adoption.
yeah they don't do anything at all
>some sweaty nerd
I liked black and white for limiting the pokedex to region exclusives at the start. I'm not sure how other people feel about that but I wish other games would do the same
I got tricked into playing Gravity Rush by similar shilling, just replace "story" with "MUH COMFY". Game is boring as fuck.
Don't listen to autistic fanbases that relentlessly shill a game to you, especially when most discussion of the game ends up being waifufagging. It's not worth it.
look at the levels and movepools
it would have been fine if the region had lots of great mons to choose from
How about an E4 who claims to be a Fire-type user but due to the region's near-total absence of Fire-types instead uses whatever random crap can learn Flamethrower?
It's a great idea, it forces you to use new pokemon and find new favorites rather than just getting tunnel vision and gunning straight for your old ones.
Unfortunately, that concept was too strong for the majority of the audience and they hated it, so it'll never happen again.
B2/W2 immediately did away with that and brought back old Pokemon right out the gate.
He's as infamous as LowTierGod in the Pokemon community.
Heck, all of B2/W2 was pretty much a regression back to the Pokemon status-quo after B/W's attempt to break out of it.
>he didn't get the wink-wink nudge nudges
i want to nudge this lopunny, if you catch my drift
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jannie's could have just deleted the image, the text was harmless but a pun on the shitpost