I'm curious as to why there's a lack of Khajiits in Skyrim or even Argonians in cities that have no ports.
Did Bethesda ham-fist the Khajiit ban from the cities so they could skimp on developing them, all so they could direct their attention on Nordic, Orcish, Reachmen, and Dwemer cultures?
they are the worst races who gives a shit
is this the furry thread?
Pretty much this, beast races are the least-popular player choices in games. Like 50%+ of people don't play characters other than (Human) or in this case Nord, Imperial, Breton.
And why should they be in Skyrim?
Their lore and culture are interesting, not on the exact same level as the Dunmer, but they're on par with the Redguards.
What? God, I hope not, I just want to have a normal thread about khajiits and I guess argonians as well.
Actually, from what I found from all the "polls" held by different people and forums, Khajiits interchange between 2nd and 3rd place, but the Nords are always 1st.
Bretons are always 4th, 5th is either Imperial or Bosmer.
my first playthrough of skyrim i played as an argonian but the save file became corrupted so i lost all my progress. started a new game as a khajiit because it had claws and nightvision.
why would either of those races want to be in skyrim at all? it's cold as fuck there and they are both from tropical areas and theres a fucking civil war going on?
That's like asking why Nords are in Hammerfell and Morrowind when it's hot as fuck in both these place.
That's just a dumb question, Skyrim has always been a hub of trade and commerce, just look at Whiterun and Solitude.
Might as well say the same about any Redguards or Bosmer up there too; there were opportunities up North and they decided to take them.
I think the nords often stopped the thief cat race from entering their cities. The ones squatting outside whiterun even mention being banned from the town.
I know, but it feels more like that was made as an excuse to have less khajiit NPCs.
If you want to go that far, then prevent khajiit players from entering the city as well, but the guards simply don't care and just call you a cat before going on their way.
Hammerfell and Skyrim share borders.
Elswyr and Valenwood are on the other side of the world to Skyrim
>why aren’t there more desert people in the snow
And that didn't prevent a sizeable amount of Bosmers from travelling up there, did it? And the caravans didn't mind, because they have seen opportunities and comfort there that they didn't find back home.
Some of the Argonians came to Skyrim as hatchlings even, so they came
Do you even play the game, dude? Have you not seen the amount of Redguards there, some of whom have married to Nords? Have you not seen the Khajiit up in the Solitude lighthouse?
A lot of them tell you they came to Skyrim for opportunities, just like how Nords went to Cyrodiil and High Rock and every corner of Tamriel for opportunities.
>Some of the Argonians came to Skyrim as hatchlings even, so they...*
*... grew up in Skyrim for most of their lives, and many Dunmers say the same.
>crashes to desktop the game
Because skyrim belongs to the nords.
>Hammerfell and Skyrim share borders.
The original point was that both races are from hotter climates and therefore would avoid Skyrim because it’s cold. I’m pointing out that doesn’t stop the Redguards from showing up and they’re from a hot region as well, shared border aside.
>Elswyr and Valenwood are on the other side of the world to Skyrim
And you can still find Bosmer and Khajit there so distance from Skyrim isn’t a good argument either for having no Khajit or Argonians in Skyrim.
Todd sucks
Orcs and Snow Elves, actually.
You also find both races in considerably smaller numbers than Imperials, Nords and Bretons.
True, but I’m not arguing that there should be huge amounts of them up there, I’m arguing that saying the climate should keep them all out doesn’t make sense.
oh ok
Only makes sense. Nords have a whole broom up their asses about their traditions and laws, while the Khajiit don't even believe in rules, detest the cold and very rarely seem to say something that makes sense to other cultures (their concept of going to the moon and returning to become the mane, for example).
Khajiit are my favorite race from the TES universe because of how oblivious they are to how dangerous they can be, like when they almost terminated the Bosmer, and how much other races detest them. They're also extremely esoteric in their customs and beliefs, with their martial arts that no one understands but themselves and their worship of a sugar that is a literal drug, which they consider crystallized moonlight.
In short, Khajiit are crazy, dangerous, esoteric as hell, come across as arrogant and crime-leaning and are interestingly innocent at times, and their limited presence pretty much anywhere but Elsweyr only makes sense. I wish I could see some Khajiit interact with the Ka Po Tun eventually tho.
>Moonsugar
>Not actual moonlight
Pick one
And they also make the best stealth archers haha
what the fuck is the point of these faggoty posts
And just like that it does not keep all cat and lizard people out. It is like population demographics are weird sometimes. The more you know.
>detest the cold
Biggest stretch in Elder Scrolls is a anthro cat species that looks like a lynx and hates the cold.
But would a lynx not prefer to be warm and cozy? Of course, it would maybe prefer the colder climate, because it has evolved to survive in snow and ice to survive. But if it were not limited by the trappings of its own evolution, it would certainly rather lay down on a warm stone in the sun. And cat people in skyrim have certainly not been molded by natural selection to be at home in the snow. Because their home province is quite a toasty area and natural selection and evolution are not something that can really be applied to the races of TES, since most of them have more mythological origins.
>Windhelm has the most Argonian characters in one place, working at the docks there
>Argonians are cold blooded, it's literally snowing all the time there, and none of them are dressed particularly warmly
Yea, they would all just fucking die.
t. snake owner
Not him, but I think the Khajiit are more cat-like, so they can take the heat. I imagine a lynx is too hairy for the heat and would not enjoy it too much
i think the magic tree would just make them resilient or something
>one day game does not even work anymore after loading screens
Literally
>Argonians
>"It's cold as fuck"
>Hist
>"say no more Senpai"
There are some Ayleid sources that tried torturing Argonians with cold water on the assumption they’re cold-blooded, but it failed and that just made the Ayleids confused.
male argonian is the patrician choice for any playthrough i always pick them.
What a retarded argument. They're still a part of the world.
I’m always bothered about how the tail clips through everything. Need realistic physics plz Todd
I want a remastered vvardenfell
yes
Nords are already a minority in Skyrim as it is, the games need less alien races present, not more.
you must be an incredibly obnoxious yet bland person to deal with
Todd was secretly telling us a story of white genocide all along
Of all the regions in Tamriel, it's probably more that beast races may not have as much business being in Skyrim when they could get a better lifestyle elsewhere or have other matters. Of course, it doesn't stop opportunists such as the Khajiit caravans trying to profit off the civil war.
I see you are a man of culture as well. Don't fret user, you are a true chad; so heed my word and do not cast your pearls before swine. Male Argonians are the true pleb filter.
isn't skyrim cold as fuck and they both live in warmer areas?
>incredibly obnoxious yet bland
Sounds like Altmer
I always go male Argonian on the first playthrough.
Whoa, cool it with the antisemitism.
He didn't say Dunmer though.
Fuck orcniggers and fuck snow elfniggers.
I imagine there's long haired Khajit who can live in Winter environments, like real life wild cats. For Argonians, probably something to do with the Hist.
Either way, the weather doesn't truely matter. Freezing and Boiling environments never stopped humanity from colonising the world. It's just another hurdle.
Yeah yeah, I also agree that elf-worshippers are pretentious and vapid, but playing as only one race is beyond me.
It’s always the Argonian and Altmer/Bosmer fans, even. Fans of other races mix it up, but those three just refuse to play as something different.
Aren't most of the khajiit you find outside of elsweyr outcasts/laws or merchant caravans? Khajiit also have rather set breeds based on what moon cycle they are born under, no?
The hist only needs so many spies to watch the nords. They're not really up to anything important. If they were i'm sure there would be more argonians up there.
Merchants, sailors, guards, mercenaries, laborers, farmers, they’ll take just about any occupation they’re fit for.
I think khajiits are one of the more popular races.Its like third after nords(native race so of course its up),dunmer then khajiit.
I've usually played Imperials and Nords for most of my hours logged into Elder Scrolls games. What your claiming is objectively false user.
t. argonian lad.
I'm not sure if the Khajit are outcasts from elsweyr. But I think it's implied most if not all Khajit are just merchant caravans.
With the Hist they don't necessarily control the Argonians; they let them do their own thing (which is why so many have been enslaved by the Dunmer, the Hist don't care). However when the Hist themselves are under threat (e.g. Daedric invasion) they collectively decide to buff up every argonian into a body builder with the highest pain tolerance. The result, angry doom guy lizards invading hell.
Because of that Argonians just go everywhere; they aren't tied down to the Hist or the Black Marsh; although I'm not really sure they have a good excuse to depart their country; especially now they have a nationalistic government under the An-Xileel government. Perhaps many of them are descendants of slaves, immigrants or merchants?
Are Argonians actually cold blooded?
Yes it's true! Did you know they spend the early parts of the morning laying on rocks out in the sun to help them heat up after a cold night in their swamps?
And Dunmer. Refugees welcome!
I've looked it up before, and it seemed like the answer was a big "probably".
They wouldn't be able to breed with all the warm blooded races in TES if that were the case.
>Argonians literally sun bathe in huge groups; all of them getting as much sun as they can.
>wew
Here's hoping the next Elder Scrolls is set in the Black Marsh then.
Skyrim is only 48% Nord. There should be less furries.
I really want to hug a khajiit in a non-sexual manner, they just look comfy
What type user? suthay-raht? Alfiq? Sench-Raht? They come in so many fucking shapes.
>Nords complaining about being a minority, even though they invaded and genocided the native Snow Elves.
Imagine my shock.
(((Snow Elv*s))) went on a genocide spree and failed. They got what was coming to them.
why did khajiit murder all those birds?
all of em
*raises paw*
You might be an exception, but you don’t disprove what I’ve seen in every corner that discusses TES.
Nord fans who mained Nords before Skyrim came out were normal min-maxers like Breton fans, except they focused on combat rather than magic. After Skyrim came out, most of them were, as expected, male ultra-nationalists/fascists.
Khajiit mains are 100% furries. A bit embarrassing, if a bit disgusting if you encounter the ones from /trash/, but most of them are wholesome.
Bosmer mains are split between waifufagging weebs for males because “muh tree-hugging waifu”, and self-hating weebs for females who wished they were born as elves. Oh, and they consider ESO to be the absolute best TES.
Male Altmer fans don’t exist. Female Altmer fans are unironic elven supremacists.
Breton fans are oldschool and hardcore min-maxers, and usually chill.
Dunmer fans are such huge loremasters you’re better to just let them ramble their theories. They’re also Morrowind fanboys.
Orc fans are metalheads.
Redguards disappointingly have very little fans, so not much of a stereotype can be applied to them.
Argonians are usually gay or bi scalies.
Imperials are diehard supporters of the Empire and total Oblivion fanboys.
I hate Elves as much as the next person (i'm willing to reckon my hatred of Elves is greater than yours). However, Nords are the snow niggers of the humans. If your going to proclaim any of those Ape's as the master race, stick to the Imperials who actually have a great track record.
They didn’t go on a genocide spree. A group of them just sacked Saarthal, and then the Atmorans took that as an excuse out of rage to genocide the Falmeri race, even the innocents that had no idea about the sacking of Saarthal.
Does Pearl Harbor justify the atomic bombs? Absolutely not.
I generally don't hate elves, but I really want to kill any bosmer I see.
You can’t just post lizards that voluptuous user.
I play khajiit and I resent being called a furry
It's like 53% if you count the old people "race" that are probably all supposed to be Nords.
There is no reason to, because Bethesda is a shit company so everyone still treats you like a human.
Huh, this is genuinely quite in depth. To me at least these streotypes seem to have grains of truth in them. Fair enough.
ALthough it does seem to me most fans like to proclaim their chosen race as the master race. I found that genuinely quite interesting.
Well hell, I would go around claiming the Argonians are top tier, for the being the original natives to all of Tamriel and for invading Hell itself. Just wish TES would actually put time into the nations, war and politics of the governments of the races; something akin to Warhammer or the Witcher universe. I don't know, maybe i'm a crazy simpleton.
Even I admit, Khajit seem very closely related to furries. I'm curious, why do you play Khajit?
I understand. My 2nd favorite race are the Khajiits, 1st being the Imperials.
My 2nd playthrough is always as a Khajiit who I am fine doing questionable things with that I didn’t wish to do as my Imperial main.
This is your barmaid for tonight. Say something nice about her.
More
sap truck just arrive
She looks like she fucks Redguards
That's simply not true though. Lots of people I talked to, especially girls, love playing khajits because "muh cute cats". They're also one of the best choices for a sneaky character, which is a popular gamestyle. Add furries to that and I'll bet they're at least in the top 5 of picked races.
Argonians are probably indeed less popular though, I myself play them often(they look cool and make for a good combination of a warrior and mage), but I don't think many people do
Some are Imperials and Bretons, so no.
Besides, you should be taking in-game numbers of NPCs as the canon numbers, Bethesda increased the number of non-native races so the game wouldn’t be so dull.
Would it be good for your game if the main city that acted as a hub of commerce and trade, well-known in the lore as a place where all races interchange cultures and trade items from every corner of Tamriel, was almost entirely made up of Nords and there’s just one Imperial here and another Bosmer there?
Pleasure to meet her, I heard there could be arrangements for food in bed?
I meant to say that you shouldn’t take in-game numbers as canon numbers, my bad.
>thanos purple
>no brute mod
dropped
Are argonians cold-blooded or what
They're whatever the Hist desires them to be. The Hist has full control over their anatomy and internal functions. If the Hist wanted, it could make the females secrete a sweet strawberry flavored milk from their tiddies.
More?
Even the lore-writers can’t decide on it, so they just kept it vague.
Because they are as far from their homelands as possible. Khajit get to stay on the roadways and the argonians get to stay to the port towns.
Both get to freeze to death.
They canonically have cloacas, not regular mammalian genitals. And they also hatch from eggs, so the females have absolutely no need for breasts unless if the Hist wants them to be able to breed with other races.
Only mammals have mammaries, fuckhead.
elves do not deserve rights
H I S T
S A C K S
Fuck men
Mer supremacy NOW
Khajiits just prefer to stay in their own place. Most of the Khajiits Skyrim are just caravan merchants and cities with port means wares to trade that's why you see them mostly in port cities.
Let's talk about the real khajiit problem. In Online the female muzzles are too slender if you don't set the face poly to ogre mode.
Purple is a god tier colour.
But aye, I should look into the Brute mod.
I'll only post one more user. I still want to talk about the actual TES games.
Just make them thick so you stay too busy staring as their ass instead
I made a female bosmer instead.
Speaking of population percentages. My biggest gripe with Skyrim at least is how tolerant and nice everyone is to each other. Hell even Ulfric is getting shit for justifiably being jaded with the Dunmer inside Whitehold's walls. In the middle of war time. I get it, racism bad. But that's not how medieval societies worked. Even to this day in current year, outsides can and will be shunned by many groups.
What
No Divine or Daedra can save you now.
Based
t.dunmer
Pretty sure it's confirmed some Argonians are live birthed because again it's all decided by the Hist.
Good thing Argonians aren't lizards then.
Oblivion was so fucking bad
if that’s true, then what the hell.
I guess it varies from tribe to tribe.
I still don't get just how badly they fucked it up.
It boggles the mind.
From a character design and gameplay standpoint, sure. But those are things that can actually be fixed with mods. Oblivion wins against every other TES title when it comes to quest content barring the main quest. The Thieves Guild, Dark Brotherhood, Shivering Isles, Knights of the Nine, and countless side quests are still to this day some of the best work Bethesda has done.
The Hist also genderswaps Argonians at random. So you could sleep with the hottest fem lizard in the province and wake up next to a dude.
>Are Argonians actually cold blooded?
Depends on the breed. No, actually there's no such thing as a solid breed of an argonian. Remember that argonian is a metaphysical designation for a soul that is linked with the Hist. The (mostly optional) lizard features are more like a transformation fetish than a solid race.
Wouldn't the gender-swap thing be at birth? or during adolescence? I doubt fully grown adults would change body mass and gender overnight.
No, I think they need to ingest the sap that transforms them to different sexes, they don’t just wake up at random.
And even if you wake up next to a male argonian, then eh, so what? Everyone in Tamriel is bisexual.
It's fucking Skyrim, of course there aren't as many of them as Nords
No, it can happen at any time in your life.
That's a pretty fun list, but it doesn't gel with reality in full. Argonians and Khajiit are depending on the game between the second and fourth most played race. That'd mean about 35% of TES players are furfags or scalies.
Nope, it's during any part of their adulthood. It's called the next cycle.
That's specifically TESO lore, not TES itself. TESO has improved a lot, but its functionality of a lot of things is very different.
Oblivion was so fucking boring too except for the odd daedra quest and Dark Brotherhood. It's a miracle I ended up trying Morrowind later to get into the series instead of having dropped it entirely. I blame lore threads.
I'd like to remind everyone that the green pact is the only thing keeping wood elves from transforming into unstoppable monsters. Every unique monster in the lore was once a wood elf. They're made out of primordial monster shapelessness and the green pact is the only thing giving them form.
It’s always 1st place for Nords, 2nd and 3rd place interchange between Dunmer and Khajiits, and 4th and 5th interchange between Bretons and Bosmers.
Argonians are either more or less popular than Imperials, depending on where the poll was posted.
Eh, I also acknowledge that TESO has shoddy foundations, but the lore they provide to fit between the gaps of existing lore is fine by me and should be acknowledged.
And that's why Bosmer are low quality Khajiit knockoff. Yiffer a shit. Azurah and Lorkhaj better.
No.
kek I always liked female Bosmer because of muh barefoot tree-hugger waifu.
Though, after many playthroughs of different entries as different races, It's a toss up between Dunmer, Nords and Imperials.
>Oblivion was so fucking boring too except for the odd daedra quest and Dark Brotherhood
Nigger are you joking right now? Oblivion's side quest content is leaps and bounds above both Morrowind and Skyrim.
>Enter a painted world to save the artist
>Stop a manhunter from kidnapping people and tracking them like animals on his own secluded island
>Ingesting Hist sap and slaughter a village of innocent people you think are Goblins
>Implicate a corrupt guard who just slaughtered a homeless man trying to get his house back
>Tricked into finding a ring that weighs a fuckton at the bottom of a well
>Save a mage from a demonic nightmare by entering his mind
>Rescue the local qt Argonian girl that's been kidnapped by a bunch of retards in a town literally called Hackdirt
>Find a house for cheap only to discover it's haunted and belongs to a Lich
>Try and stop a villainous group of women who prey on men and steal all their goods, the men who could provide leads too ashamed to admit to what happened
>Find out the truth behind a "vampire" being slain by a local bounty hunter, the details of the killing not adding up
>Help a half-breed orc discover the truth behind his bizarre complexion
>A bizarre nutjob is trying to undercut the prices of every other shop in the city, will you choose to help him?
Like this is all from memory, and there's probably a dozen more I can't remember.
Todd Howard hates Khajit because he thinks the fans of Khajit are degenerates.
The NPC he uses for testing is always a Khajit because "Abusing the Khajit is a victimless crime"
>Breton fans are oldschool and hardcore min-maxers, and usually chill.
I find it interesting that Bretons tend to be the most consistently well-off race crunch-wise in TES. Definitely fits.
>Argonians are usually gay or bi scalies.
Hugely depends on where you look, there's a good amount of gay scalies on Yea Forums especially, more than /trash/. But if we consider people who play female Argonians? The bi part probably holds up as good as ever.
>cold weather
>expecting lizard people, who are cold blooded.
fuck off furfag
I was speaking in regardes of Skyrim, not Oblivion or Morrowind.
He calls her Pretty Kitty. He’s a closet furry.
Argonians aren't cold blooded.
Why the fuck would the Khajiit and Argonians go to Skyrim?
Cold blooded reptiles and fucking cats from a desert are biologically unfit for the conditions.
>Enter a painted world to save the artist
That's wacky cartoon stuff and it doesn't gel with the lore. It makes me feel confused but after seeing all the autists circlejerk over this bland quest I started to hate it.
>Stop a manhunter from kidnapping people and tracking them like animals on his own secluded island
I don't even remember this one and I 100% Oblivion three or four times.
>esting Hist sap and slaughter a village of innocent people you think are Goblins
This is one of the most vile and lore breaking things in Oblivion. Top three Oblivion rage moments worthy.
>Implicate a corrupt guard who just slaughtered a homeless man trying to get his house back
That's ok, nothing special.
>Tricked into finding a ring that weighs a fuckton at the bottom of a well
Neat, but wouldn't remember it if every fanboy didn't yell about it all the time as if it's something special.
>Save a mage from a demonic nightmare by entering his mind
This one is great and very atmospheric. Not sure about the entering mind thing, I'd like to discuss this with other lorefags.
>Rescue the local qt Argonian girl that's been kidnapped by a bunch of retards in a town literally called Hackdirt
We both know this is a meme for horny nerds but it is charming. Now if Oblivion had marriage mechanics...
>Find a house for cheap only to discover it's haunted and belongs to a Lich
Very good one.
>Try and stop a villainous group of women who prey on men and steal all their goods, the men who could provide leads too ashamed to admit to what happened
Total cringe and makes me want to murder who designed this.
>Find out the truth behind a "vampire" being slain by a local bounty hunter, the details of the killing not adding up
Don't remember this or your description is too vague.
>Help a half-breed orc discover the truth behind his bizarre complexion
This was good.
>A bizarre nutjob is trying to undercut the prices of every other shop in the city, will you choose to help him?
Cringe t b h
yessssssssss
All in all, half of what you tout as "great oblivion features" is terrible or lore breaking and the other half is mostly unremarkable. You managed to mention four things in total that count as quality minor details. Details, not what makes the game good as a whole.
Most of those things are fairly cookie cutter.
You have no fucking idea wht you’re talking about. Do you even realize the stealth archer potential of beast races?
>Lore breaking
>In the game
Sorry pal, that's not how "lore breaking" works. You can accept souls being trapped inside the soul cairn but can't accept a pocket dimension inside a painting? Right.
>My memory is shit and I can't remember these quests, or it's cringe because I say so
Right, and what isn't cookie cutter? Skyrim's side quests which mostly consist of - "I need you to head into this draugr/bandit/falmer filled dungeon and grab the watchamacallit at the end."
It was great, and it had the best and physically the most in depth character creation system of the whole series.
>Everyone in Tamriel is bisexual.
Wait what?
Name ten good side quests in Skyrim. You'll be hard pressed considering the only good guild was the Dark Brotherhood, and every side quest is like what said.
>cookie cutter
if i hear this fucking term ever again..that's the style of oblivion, if you don't like it..
The Dark Brotherhood was bad in Skyrim. I’d say that the Thieves Guild was fine until you had to sell your soul to Nocturnal to wear glorified gimp suits, but that still doesn’t hold a candle to Oblivion’s Thieves Guild.
Pocket dimension inside the painting can as far as I know only be a realm of Oblivion. And it has to be created by powerful forces. The quest does not have a good justification of why the dimension exists.
>b-but what about Skyrim
Why would I give a fuck about Skyrim or compare to Oblibiob. You made this leap yourself. Oblivion fags are still obsessed with thinking you're either on their team or a Skyrim fanboy. Seek help. I think we're done here.
I mean, lore-wise it's alright. The Nords are typically racist so for them to not enjoy the company of walking cats and talking lizards makes sense. The Orcs live right next to Skyrim in some tiny fantasy version of Armenia and the Reachmen live around in the same area as well.
Of course you can always chalk it up to Bethesda's incompetence, which I will never rule out.
On that note download the more racism in windhelm mod.
Yeah, Oblivion was an extremely bad TES game.
The Dark Brotherhood was literally the best questline in base Skyrim. If you want to complain about something, do so about Companions which is the only unredeemable in any way.
this is bait
The artifact belonging to the paint quest was made by Dibella, and it was a mini-Aedric plane made by an Arctic power in an Aedric dimension.
It’s not lorebreaking in the slightest.
Has anyone else noticed a ton of Elder Scrolls threads appeared on Yea Forums and /tg/ once Online maintenance started?
>The Dark Brotherhood was literally the best questline in base Skyrim
Which isn’t saying much as 99% of quests in base Skyrim are fucking terrible.
You know what's not cookie cutter? Following a flying fetus that you exhumed yourself. God, you Oblivion cucks are so starved of actual interesting writing you're using mediocre meme moments Bethesda put in Oblivion as proof of some greatness. Oblivion doesn't exist in a vaacum and it's really nothing special.
Oblivion had a good deal of entertaining quests, but everything else is ass apart from Shivering. Which granted is probably why it got so many mods as it did trying to fix everything and got some ambitious overhauls that somehow got to a point where someone decided to merge them all together for whatever reason. Too bad the game just sat on an incredibly unstable foundation, but with OpenMW apparently now able to load BSAs of other games, hopefully we'll get to a point where we can ultimately get a source port of Oblivion. And if anyone still cares about the game by that point, perhaps see some interesting mods from it.
>I’d say that the Thieves Guild was fine until you had to sell your soul to Nocturnal to wear glorified gimp suits
No, it was shit well beyond that.
>Mercer has been sitting on taking the Falmer Eye gems for two decades, despite them being priceless artefacts that would make him rich for life. Instead he's just been casually taking the gold from the vault when the value is nowhere near what he'd get for the gems
>How did nobody, in two decades, notice that gold was going missing from the vault?
>Why did Karliah sit on enacting her revenge for two decades?
>Karliah shoots you with the paralysis arrow when there's no justification for it, why would she waste that once chance to shoot a random mook instead of her arch enemy?
>Why does anybody in the guild trust Karliah when you both show up with a charcoal impression of some Falmer language used in an old diary implicating Mercer that was translated by a faggy Dark Elf all the way across the province? There is zero reason for anybody to take what she says as fact
Morrowind is never mentioned because even hardcore Morrowind fanboys admit that the game is very weak story-wise outside of the main quest. The two games that always butt heads for side quest content are Oblivion and Skyrim, and if you think the latter is superior, you've clearly been eating paint.
>made by Arctic power
Aedric*
I like that mod. Anyway, like I said, I think they skimped on giving khajiits any importance in Skyrim because they’d rather have most of the quests involve Nordic and Dwarven ruins.
I know, the Companions sucked, and we were forced to treat werewolves as innocent creatures and werewolf hunters as a bandit organization.
Really, would it have hurt to let you join the Silver-Hands?
Because for them going to Skyrim is unattractive. Its like how refugees prefer going to europe than to china
>Be Jarl of a city with like thirty people in it
>One day 29 people get burgled
>Khajiit is the only one who didn't get hit
>He also seems to be substantially more wealthy now
HMMMMMM I WONDER WHAT RACE WE SHOULD NEVER LET IN THE CITY AGAIN
>made by Dibella
Ignoring the fact that it makes no sense to have it being made by Dibella out of all the divines, it still doesn't make much sense. It's one of those hit-and-run moments that never happen again. The work of the divines is limited to blessings in almost all cases if not all (I'd have to check up some things, but we don't have time for that right now).
>mini-Aedric
Remodulate our phase shield frequency tier.
Absolute gibberish that makes no sense. Aedric planes connected to Nirn, absolutely disgusting.
>Aedric dimension
Phrase is legitimate, but how you use it is nonsense. You can't have an arbitrary aedra dimension. They're constrained to their own planet.
You have no idea what you're talking about.
Tribunal Temple questline trumps literally everything in Oblivion and Skyrim and it's not even the best guild to join in Morrowind. Stop pretending you know what you're talking about.
No, it has nothing on Shivering Isles, if we're going to be erroneously including expansions and then act like it's basic side content.
>Morrowind is never mentioned because even hardcore Morrowind fanboys admit that the game is very weak story-wise outside
Let me laugh at you. Morrowind had better quest writing than both Oblivion and Skyrim. Reason why Morrowind isn't pulled into these discussions is because Morrowind fans look at you with disgust and want nothing to do with your shit flinging between two games who both had awful quest writing.
>Oblivion is shit
>b-but Skyrim is worse!
I don't care. Stop being a whiny crybaby about Skyrim. I stop at Oblivion is shit because the hate for Skyrim is everywhere to the point it's getting obnoxious. No need to point it out anymore. You're ten times more annoying than Skyirm fans anyway and a few of you dancing in every thread trying to rehabilitate your shit game makes me mad.
And even then, I don't care to defend Morrowind even if it were shit because we're here for lore and the lizard bait OP. I don't care to white knight for these decades old vidya anymore.
I’ll have to get my hands on Oblivion once again if I want to provide a better answer, but Dibella is the goddess of art, so of course it makes sense for that artifact to belong to her.
>it has nothing on Shivering Isles
Ah right, the questline that between the reddit CHESE jokes sent you to either find 20 X items or into draugur tier long and tedious dungeons.
Shivering Isles were utter shit.
>a lack of Khajiits in Skyrim or even Argonians in cities that have no ports.
Because why the fuck would they be in skyrim?
>...lack of (...) Argonians in cities that have no ports.
Well, you know. Maybe it is kinda unrealistic that Saxhleel will stay away from Hist-Trees for a longer period of time?
If anything, I would like to have them reduced in any towns that have no access to a Hist-Tree.
How many Hist-Trees did you find in a fucking cold region such as Skyrim?
Same for the Kahjit, they are travelers, nomads even. Maybe a few settle in a town, the rest travels in groups, which was represented in Skyrim as well? Why would a desert dweller even want to go into the literal ninth circle of hell, the fucking ice palace par excellence?
That’s like asking why there are a sizeable amount of Redguards in Skyrim, user.
>Didn't catch my sly bait talking about the Tribunal DLC when that's not the Tribunal Temple quests
You haven't played Morrowind, have you?
HOW COME THE DUNMER IN RIFTEN (a town which gives very little to its people) ARE ABLE TO INTEGRATE, AND PROSPER, YET THE DUNMER GIVEN REFUGE AND GIBS IN WINDHELM HAVE ALL STAGNATED AND DONT WORK?
Because hammerfell shares a border with skyrim
I ignored that part of your post because I don't give a fuck about Morrowind.
In the time of Oblivion, Skyrim and Hammerfell were just recovering from a recent war where Skyrim tried to take Dragonstar from Hammerfell. Besides, Markarth (and The Reach) should've been full of redguard architecture and people. It's a melting pot land where the reachmen are just one of many clusterfucks.
Yeah, and their land is hot, so why would they go to the cold province? And the Bosmer?
They’re just there for opportunities, and some lived in it ever since they were children.
Let me redpill you on the dark elf menace.
The morality of the issue takes priority!
He did not read, because morally it would be unjust!
Counterpoint: I pretend Riften doesn't exist because of how stupid everything is there.
holy shit are you me? I also play male argonian!
Fucking based. Hope the greyskins btfo the shitnords.
>Be female Argonian
>Help the Strormcloaks
>BTFO the darkies
>Ride Nord dick
Truly the only way to play Skyrim.
excellent choice, friend.
>Lizard people have mammaries because reasons
kys
>doesnt marry good girls orcs
Riften is retarded I wish I could elope Madesi away from it
I hope you're using the patrician argonian re-texture user.
remember when orcs were just non playable mobs?
Try reading this post, it explains it excellently.
reddit.com
>inb4 a spam of wacky reaction images and angry replies about reddit
Ignore the site, just read what’s posted and close it.
They have tits because the kalpa hopping hivemind trees that can morph any living being with magic sap said so.
Why would there be more khajiits and argonians in Skyrim? Arguably there's too many as is.
Developers back in 2003 on official forums stated that argonian chest bumps are egg sacks from which live argonians are hatched directy from the mother. It's called ovoviviparity in nature.
That’s stupid and disgusting
yeah like most games
why is it so hard to find game where you can play as a orc, let alone a female orc?
Africans are a part of our world but there aren't many in Iceland.
why does he have nipples? he is a lizard
>female orc
HA next you'll want to fuck female dwarves
get out of here milk drinker
why does he have the same vocal chords as humans? hes a lizard
got me there
Nords aren't in Morrowind they're in Vvardenfell and Solstheim, the latter is Nord country through and through whilst the south of Vvardenfell has recently come under Imperial control and so there are a handful of Nords scattered about. About as many as there are Khajiit and Argonians in Skyrim.
Likewise, there are very few Nords in Hammerfell. Try playing the games before you talk about racial representation in them.
Because I can't self insert if he has none.
And there are very few Redguards or Bosmer in Skyrim too.
>get out of here milk drinker
but does female orc's even have milk?
i love nipples
There aren't no khajiit or argonians in Skyrim you fucking retard.
i mean they have tiddes so its plausible
and im assuming elves are mammalian
Lets just assume that the Hist designed their hosts to-, I mean, argonians to resemble the Ehlnofey who were combating one another in the Merethic era.
The Hist could’ve sensed strong warriors, both males and females, and decided to make the lizards around the resemble their stature and physique. The boobs may be useless, but boobs are boobs, and everyone will stare at a good set of boobs.
>not wanting nipples
I thought it was a myth that Morrowind fans will defend every single thing from Morrowind as the bestest ever.
I thought the defense of Morrowind's combat was done tongue in cheek.
Now seeing someone defend the non MQ Morrowind questlines as anything other than filler MMO tier I must admit I was wrong.
For extra WTF user claimed they are in fact the gold standard for TES.
If this is the hill you want to die on then by all means go ahead.
Don't mind me just a Nines praising, Pelinal fanboying, Empire loving Imperial passing through
The first Fighters Guild mission in Oblivion was made to parody the first Fighters Guild mission in Morrowind, by the way.
I want a moth to smother me.
>Morrowind had better quest writing than both Oblivion and Skyrim
literally 90% of the side quests in morrowind are fucking garbage m8
>moth
disgusting
go get an orc
Why though, teslore is based
The big difference is that Morrowind quests were designed to be regular stuff you do in real life. Talking to people, buying stuff for someone, gathering alms. You felt like an everyman and then you'd get a big dungeon clearing quests twice a questline and it was big. In Oblivion and Skyrim... eh go on an adventure? Stuff that gets praised like finding a ring of burden designed to kill you was just par for the course in Morrowind questlines. For example, one of the best TES quests ever was Morrowind's silent vow pilgrimage which was basically just walking around the island, reading texts on religious monuments without talking to anyone or fast traveling. It's a jarring difference from the grounded and spiritual Morrowind to the loud and obnoxious Oblivion/Skyrim chosen one quest design.
Tokay geckos can make a variety of calling sounds, it's not much of a stretch.
>teslore is based
People like you should hang. TESlore is a banhammer happy MK's leftist tranny clique that is adamant about creating a hugbox where even slight dissent or saying someone's fanfic lore sucks gets you banned. It's a place for the worst autists permabanning you for forgetting to fall Vivec a XIR because he's not a male (even if a MK text outright says he wants to be addressed as a male). Teslore is the death of Elder Scrolls or will be one day.
I mean the Nine aren't racist, in fact they have a diverse race
Reminder that TESlore defends shit like Breton architecture in Summerset in ESO because they reinterpret old lore in any way they can to call the new shit (that is utter shit) acceptable and good. Subhumans all of them.
>all those buzzwords one after the other
Thanks for showing your colors man, will be easy to ignore you in further posts
>playing Oblivion for the first time
>everyone is racist as fuck if you're a cat person
The race banter in Oblivion is great
Kill yourself redditard
>ESO
>bad
How about thinking for yourself every once in a while?
What about Skyrim though
>You remind me of my cusin's cat. Killed that too.
>You'll make a fine rug, cat
Damn, he put more effort into that post than Bethesda ever did for Skyrim.
And there you have it. Redditard calling the lore in ESO good.
Oblivion is super comfy in that its a traditional fantasy "save the kingdom from super evil demons" with tes flavoring and tongue in cheek rendition of classic fantasy tropes in places.
>he knows every single fucking detail about teslore
>I'm the redditor
Skyrim is fine too, but I remember more banter in oblivion because the npcs would diss each other often because of the AI gimmick
gorrilas while capable of being taught sign language and having their own calls are unable to speak
being much more closely related to humans they would seem like a better example
vocal chords are actually a pretty niche evolutionary path
in any case kynareth gave man the gift of speech so i guess aregonians = man
He was the first Argonian NPC I ever bumped into. Was surprised he had a gentle-sounding voice.
Something about the goddess Dibella loving everybody equally, and that all men and mer should do the same, and as people are all taught to worship her as one of the 9 divines most likely have no problem with it.
Of, course. I'm balls deep into lore so I get linked and told everything that happens around. I used to be with the clique without going on plebbit (there are other gathering places including MK's facebook groups) but as they turned more and more retarded I decided to drop out. Where the fuck do you think you are? Yea Forums is not a place where casual plebbitards come to stroke each other. We're here to actually discuss what can't be discussed elsewhere when platforms turn to shit. You could go read all the drama on /tg/ as well.
it's really a shame you couldn't marry him
>he will never make a cockring for you or him to wear
the saxleel makes them right
I'm not even the other guy you fucking retard, how about you play the game instead of spouting bullshit?
Back to e with you
I CANT PLAY IT BECAUSE ITS ON MAINTENENCE YOU FUCK DO YOU NOT KNOW WHY TES THREAD POPPED UP NOW OUT OF ALL TIME AND EVEN IF I PLAY IT WITH FRIENDS ESO LORE IS STILL HOLOCAUST TIER
C0DA is a freeform exploration of TES lore.
Well MKs version anyways.
You can explore as far as the leash allows.
c0da is a mixed bag and has nothing to do with the problems of teslore. You think this was an attack on MK? On the contrary, dude got permabanned from teslore himself.
Shick had enough of that shit show and bailed.
the perfect woman(lizard)
Does it have a global marketplace yet?
It was fun to fuck around for a bit but not having a global marketplace is a dealbreaker.
Ayleds are stupid and Pelinal did a great favor even if I like other elves and he... doesn't
That is because MK has the emotional depth of a highschooler.
If he gets teased he reacts poorly.
I think everyone arguing Vivecs pronouns instead of his 2DERP4U lore about him set him off.
There are only eight divines
>tfw you literally cant feel pity for ayleids and snow elves no matter how many pity points the writers try to toss at you because of how shitty their race is in terms of how they treated other races
Feels good man. The next tes should add an optional Ayleid bloodline trait on Bosmers
So in essence, a jaded shitlord four chainer and a gnostic liberal baby both agree teslore is utter shit. If that's not damning, I don't know what is.
Why do you think the Snow Elves deserved a genocide? A sacking doesn’t justify ethnic cleansing.
Meh, those are just pre-Oblivion excuses for being lazy and using the same model. They had no titties back in Morrowind when the lore in the series was at its best.
I recently installed Skyrim and I'm disappointed. I'm trying to get in touch with my normalfag side but I can't do it. It just leaves so much to be desired. The combat and the interactions and the stability of the engine are all just lackluster. The Viking-esque theme gets weary and the overall drabness of every environment makes me depressed. It's not a world worth fighting for.
Any good RPGs that take large inspiration from Arthonian tales? That's the cool kind of fantasy.
Argonian titties are from Daggerfall days where they had no nipples.
I'm not gay, bi, or a scaly. Lizards are just cool.
Not surprising that a furry is this fucking stupid
Snow elves were cool but yea a few of them were jerks. .. dwemer and Ayleds fuckin deserved though
>Arthonian tales
What did he mean by this
You know, King Arthon. The mythical king of Englion.
>No beards
>Khajiits banned in Whiterun
>Play as Khajiit
>Not immediately kicked out of whiterun
This game is a hack.
>Kang Arthon
This one is saying... khajiit werre... kangs, yes?
hoo boy
It being common does not make it right. It's a leader's job to think about this stuff even though the peasants don't have to and might disagree.
>Ulfric=Trump
>Imperials=Democrats
>Thalmor=Jews
Yeah, but it has that sombre Imperial feel. Like, in Skyrim everyone has a brash tone of voice, and the sky above you is all thin and bright and cold. But Oblivion characters and music sound sad all the time, and everything is shadowed and cramped in together. It really -feels- like a country whose leader has died.
So it's very different from normal fantasy to me, even though it has the same setpieces.
>this kills the thread
Your type is annoying because it destroys any nuance the world has and breaks the fantasy of it.
Kingdoms of Amalur has a lot of idealistic, vivid-colour questing, if that's what you mean.
Or you could just go and binge on Nanatsu no Taizai manga.
>play as a high elf
>can join the stormcloaks no problems
>have to listen to stormcloaks and ulfric spewing racist comments about elfs
>literally rise to be champion of the stormcloaks surpassing even Galmar who is Ulfrics most loyal soldier
It's more of a pisser since the Khajit homelands have been split into two vassal states and the Argonians dry docked the Dunmer. As a result we don't really get any insight into what life is like under Dominion control with the Khajit or Bosmer. As well as hearing how the Argonians are doing post Morrowind rape.
Do you think the obvious parallels are not worth discussing or are you the type that genuflects before discussing TES and think only lore warden approved topics are to be discussed?
Either way lighten up nerd.
>I wish I could elope Madesi away from it
same. he is pure.
grelka is always mean to him D:
Despite the somber feel, I love how Oblivion embraces its own goofiness. It knew how to juggle between the tones it wanted the player to experience, and while it also exists in Skyrim, it’s too few and far between. Skyrim came out at a time when muted and grayed colors were all the rage in videogames, when seriousness and dark tones were considered deep, so it aged some of its components for worse.
I’m saying this as someone who hasn’t grown up with Oblivion, I tried it after I played through Skyrim. That being said, I could listen to Wes Johnson all day.
>Do you think the obvious parallels are not worth discussing
Yes, because there's nothing more to be said and because it's tiring and lowers the level of discussion.
Well, according to the Bosmer who helped you sneak into the Thalmor embassy, there are insurgencies in Valenwood, but the Thalmor somehow keep finding and destroying them abnormally quickly.
I’m guessing that’s the same scenario in Elsweyr, and it’s suggested that the Thalmor may have been the ones who orcastrated the assassination of the last Mane.
Oh, and according to The Infernal City, the An-Xileel are the dominant and the only party in the Argonian government with any kind of power. Other parties exist, so it’s not like the Thalmor who purged every other party, but the non-An-Xileel parties have all been stripped of their power and their votes don’t amount to anything.
Basically, the Argonians have their own Thalmor, but they’re isolationists instead of expansionists hellbent on sacrificing every other race to unmake mortality.
this
It's some extremely surface level "observations" stated to fling the thread into a politics flamewar, stop pretending otherwise and go back to your containment zone.
Aren't khajiit and argonians native to literally the opposite end of Tamriel?
Fags. TES lore borrows heavily from the real world. Hell, one of the Argonians in Skyrim gives a whole lecture about the need for cheap unskilled labor.
Khajiit being that high for Skyrim makes sense. They are the best stealth characters in a game where stealth characters are OP, and it's the first time their model actually look visually appealing, especially after the atrocity that was the Oblivion Khajiit model.
Then provide a parallel more nuanced than "le based nord trump man vs basedoboy demograt cat-loving elf-protecting empire", you manchild.
>justifying siding with the stormcloaks as my dunmer on my current skyrim playthrough by stating that he believes in the freedom to claim your own destiny for all races, and sees the parallel between the Imperial pantheon slowly overtaking the Nord one, Imperial architecture and customs slowly overtaking Nord ones, Imperial way of law overtaking Nord and so on and what was happening in Morrowind prior to the Red Year
>recognizes that Ulfric winning will be devastating for the Dunmer, but views it as yet another trial for his people to survive, as they always have, and can't morally justify supporting the occupying Imperial force or staying neutral (choosing the Thalmor)
>also recognizes that the Mede Empire is a shadow of the old Empire, little more than a Thalmor puppet state well overdue for collapse
Is this retarded as fuck, or does it make sense from the perspective of such a character? If Skyrim was real life I'd support the Imperials so I don't know.
>why are desert animals not located throughout a cold ass region?
>why are coldblooded animals not located throughout a cold ass region?
>dungmer
stopped reading right there
Personally, I'd go for the regular dunmer hate for the Empire since they were abandoned during the Oblivion Crisis. My dunmer would plan on returning back home to Morrowind as soon as he settles his business in Skyrim and would resent all these people living in Skyrim instead of returning back home. He'd side with Skyrim because he doesn't need or want empire back ever again. As for dunmer in Skyrim, they get what they deserve.
Next you'll say that it's reasonable for Jews to fight for the Nazis because maybe the Nazis will stop oppressing and killing your kind.
There's a very good reason why every single Dark Elf in Windhelm is overjoyed with seeing the Empire take over it, should you go with the Imperial route.
>says this while conveniently ignoring Ulfric is also a puppet
Yes.
>dunmer and skyrim are like jews and nazis
Kill yourself.
It's like being a poor Bulgarian drinking your life away because everyone left for fucking Germany and you're cursing them every day and the fucking Germany for taking your people away from their home. All your friends and family gone.
That's part of why I would support the Empire if Skyrim was real life, I have lots of meta knowledge such as Ulfric being a sleeper agent, the true plan of the Thalmor etc etc that make choosing the Stormcloaks a really dumb choice, but my character doesn't have that meta knowledge.
The Empire hate is def a part of it too, he sees them as an oppressive occupying force eroding the ways and culture of its dominions while falsely appearing as a benevolent hands-off ruler, and then as you mentioned there's the whole bucket of asshurt over the Dunmer being completely abandoned when they needed the Empire the most.
Don't listen to him. Stupid shit like Ulfric working for Thalmor should be a permaban. All the documents say is that a war within the empire is a good thing for the dominion, which is an obvious observation. It says any victory, even an Ulfric one is undesirable.
>Argonians in cities that have no ports.
There aren't though?
ulfric stomfag is a big loser idiot who started this war in the first place, plunged skyrim into chaos
An independent Skyrim means a weaker Empire, and the Empire is the only entity that can give the Dominion a run for its money. Even a Stormcloak victory is desirable to the Thalmor.
lack of argonians in portless cities in Skyrim.
Argonians lived in Chorrol, Skingrad, and even Bruma, so why are they restricted to ports?
Both of those are your personal judgements, not lore which is what I corrected.
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There is ingame proof that states that he's been used as a direct Thalmor asset in the past, and is now considered a dormant asset. This isn't proof that he's a current Thalmor agent (infact the document you mentioned suggest otherwise, since if Ulfric was an active agent, the Thalmor wouldn't need secret cells working to prolong the war as Ulfric would do that instead), but it is proof that he's acted on their behalf in the past.
It's basic common sense, something which you're awfully proud to lack.
t. big loser idiot
Because those places cater to the Argonians semi aquatic nature which lets them excel as dock workers or sailors. Why would Argonians be living in places where they would not only be freezing their scales off but also be cut off from their preferred habitat. Argonians forgoing this in Oblivion seems like more of a flaw in that game.
The issue isn't purely military either, Skyrim ceding from the Empire means they lose trade with Cyrodiil, which is likely extremely important to Skyrim as their land is infertile and difficult to farm. I'd imagine Skyrim imports a lot of food from Cyrodiil while exporting things like metals.
Jesus Christ, you don't even know how to read. It says he was tortured for information once and as long as he continues the rebellion he is considered an asset in legal speak.
What it also says is that they don't want him to win, that they don't have contact with him and that they did not expect a war which is having them shit their pants if Skyrim is to become independent.
And since you two are retards who think everyone pointing out stupid shit is an Ulfric supporting enemy, let me be clear that I'm not taking sides here. What I'm doing is correcting two idiots who are shilling their political option by lying.
wrong
>political option
I’m curious as to why Morrowind has a few Argonian savants, but zero Orc or Khajitt savants. I thought Argonians were supposed to be just as barbaric
Not really no
Chill the fuck out and read my post again user, I never once said he's currently an active agent or that Ulfric doesn't want to win, I even specifically said that it's very unlikely that he's an active agent since the Thalmor wouldn't need secret cells working to prolong the war if he was.
What I did say is that the document states that he's been an active asset in the past, which he has. The document specifically says that contact was established AFTER Ulfric was released, and that he proved his worth as an asset, after having direct contact established. According to the document he became "generally uncooperative to direct contact" after the Markarth Incident, it states further down that "direct contact remains a possibility, but in general this asset should be considered dormant". The Thalmor, according to their own documents, no longer have much direct influence over Ulfric, but have in the past, and consider it a possibility to reestablish contact in the future.
Khajiit inside the empire usually do not join the empire, which argonians out of Black Marsh regularly interact with. With the coming of the empire into Morrowind and with the long history of argonians in Morrowind, those who are not slaves and those who came with the Empire were able to rise up. Orcs don't live in Morrowind and a few that do are weirdos. Also, khajiit breed brought as slaves into Morrowind were a dumb physically strong one.
Of course. I didn't mean weaker just in the militaristic sense, I meant weaker overall.
Both sides will have weaker diplomacy, weaker economies, and weaker armies. If the kingdoms in High Rock saw this as an opportunity, or as proof that the Empire can't hold on much longer, they'll try a rebellion of their own.
If we assume those kingdoms did succeed in leaving the Empire, well, how do you think a dozen small human kingdoms fighting amongst each other will fare against an elven superpower that managed to crush all its rebellions swiftly? Not very well, I'm afraid.
The Dominion? Scared of Skyrim? They're scared of the Empire's relentlessness, and the fact that they had their entire main army that was stationed in Cyrodiil get utterly wiped out by a single Imperial Legion once they lost the Orb of Vaermina.
Why do you think that an independent nation, half destroyed by a civil war with a fraction of its population supporting the usurping rebellious militia, will be able to stand against a superpower? They don't even have a navy, something which the Empire and Dominion keep trying to one-up the other on.
Wasn't arguing against you, just supporting you. I agree that even if the Mede Empire is an absolute joke at this point, it's still the best option Tamriel has to fight the Thalmor.
I don't think anything. I'm not arguing for anything. As long as it's written in the papers that Thalmor have to make sure neither side wins, Skyrim win is a net loss for them. Your opinion belongs into the trash bin. The same trash bin all other retards arguing about teh best side in the war belong to.
I am impress how diverse designed morrowind was.
Pearl Harbor is a bad example, Im pretty sure every one in Japan were perfectly fine with it along with all the atrocities commited by their troops in China and Korea.
>They didn’t go on a genocide spree.
They killed literally every single Atmoran in Skyrim except for three people. That's attempted Genocide
No, it’d be genocide if they went to Atmora and tried to kill every Atmoran, but they didn’t do that.
You don’t respond to a crime with genocide.
Are you braindead? You think an army bombing a harbor justifies two nuclear bombs on civilian cities?
Wow, you’re all a bunch of psychopaths.
because skyrim belongs to the imperials and elves
>it’d be genocide if they went to Atmora and tried to kill every Atmoran
You're actually retarded. Go read up on what a genocide is.
The nukes is a lot more nuanced a topic than to pretend it was purely revenge for pearl habor. There was a lot of other factors involved, such as the necessity to end the war as fast as possible to prevent Russian expansion into Japan, and the cost of life that a land invasion of Japan would cost. There's a lot more to it than revengeporn.
It’s mass-murder, not genocide, you illiterate psychopath. The Atmorans didn’t become endangered after the attack.
>Nords live side by side with snow elves in relative peace for ages
>Snelves start to think that the Nords will become a threat in the future and try to genocide them
>Kind of succeed, only like 3 nords remain to flee back to their homeland. Mission seemingly accomplished
>Pissed off army of Nords land to exact revenge
>Flee to Dwemer who turns them into blind slaves
>"b-but nords are in the wrong"
Fuck the Snow Prince and fuck Snelf people.
My people stood trial for ethnic cleansing and genocide at the Haag court for the last 20 years. I know what it is. And it is not only defined by a complete extermination of a people.
oblivion was janky as fuck, but that in itself gave it charm, skyrim seems soulless in comparison
God I want to motorboat those scaly tiddies so bad. I want to fucking spit in her mouth and cock slap her so hard it knocks her out.
>"Article 6 of the Rome Statute provides that "genocide" means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such (a) Killing members of the group; (b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group; (c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part; (d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group; (e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group."
>"Or in part"
It was genocide. Case closed.
Japan had already made a peace treaty with the Soviets before the US even considered loading the planes with the nuclear bombs. America wanted unconditional surrender, and Japan would agree to everything except giving up their emperor, so America took that as refusal and dropped the bombs, forcing the Japanese to accept a non-conditional surrender. The irony is that America still let Japan keep their emperor, so the hundreds of thousands of innocent lives were wasted just like that.
Good God, you psychopaths are dangerously stupid.
>No, it’d be genocide if they went to Atmora and tried to kill every Atmoran
No it wouldn't. A targeted attack on a group of people solely on the basis that they had a different culture or appearance is what made it Genocide. Their rate of success or scope of the attack had literally no bearing.
They had the Eye of Magnus in Saarthal. It’s obvious to everyone that this what they were after, and the Atmorans tried denying them, so they had to be brutal.
In any case, if you’re all too stupid to get it, killing a few hundred people doesn’t justify the exterminates of an entire race.
It’s not real life though. It could be entirely possible that angry Nords lead by their demigod rape the Dominion. Of course knowing the fate of previous Prisoners it’s unlikely from our perspective but not from Dragonborn’s.
>REEE GENOCIDE IS OKAY
>YOU PSYCHOPATH
Okay? You're contradicting your own point. The nukes were dropped for unconditional surrender, not revenge for pearl harbor. They conceded to Japanese cultural demands in their peace negotiations because they valued the nation as a strategic point against the rise of the Soviets. That's why so many resources went into helping it rebuild.
>few hundred
Source or bullshit.
Khajiit are our wives
Lorewise I'm pretty sure it is very hard on the beast races to live in colder climates (of course Beth doesn't give a shit, but it makes me feel a little better).
BARBED PENISES
>Help a half-breed orc discover the truth behind his bizarre complexion
>This was good.
It was completely ruined by the arena fight where he just stands there and says KILL ME over and over again
Do you think Khajiit women go for human meb because of this?
Purging a country of a sizeable minority is still genocide. And judging from the lore, the atmorans were starting to close in on the 50% demographic mark.
There was actually a cut piece of lore from the Real Berenziah that outright stated Khajiit ladies preferred fucking anything else but their own men.
The Nords didn't have anything and didn't try to do anything. The eye was hidden away beneath the city outside of the Atmoran's knowledge, and once the Elves killed all the Nords, they just left it there, which casts doubts as to wether or not they knew of it's existence. The racist Elven belief that "Nords aren't capable of handling the power" is still a genocidal excuse, after the Nords had been nothing but peaceful up until that point.
Saarthal's population is unknown. The Snow elves were exterminated to their own stubbornness and were killed off slowly over time as new Atmoran expansions took place.
Male argonians have smooth as fuck voices
Depends on what you want from a game. Morrowind had a much more believable world (and quests) where you really felt like you were a part of it, Oblivion and Skyrim made you feel like a player in a game, and this is greatly reflected in the quest writing/design philosophy of trying to make every quest be the coolest shit ever. And in my opinion, there is much more replayability on the Morrowind side of things because not every quest tries to have some crazy twist to it or something like that.
Jesus this boxart has too much soul
I feel like this is the core of the Morrowind vs Oblivion debate. It's worldbuilding vs characterbuilding. Those who like Morrowind tend to prefer storytelling on the macro level, those who prefer Oblivion, the micro level.
What about that Khajiit just outside the stables of Whiterun? I could swear some cat faggot offered me drugs right there on countless occasions.
That was an actual cat, user. He whispers dark offers to all who pass by him.