Who do YOU want?

> Final Fantasy (X2)
> Kingdom Hearts
> Dead or Alive
> Ninja Gaiden
> Castlevania (X2)
> Metal Gear
> Sonic The Hedgehog (X2)
> Shin Megami Tensei
> Street Fighter (X2)
> Mega Man
> Resident Evil
> Xenoblade/Saga
> Pac-Man
Pretty solid lineup, however the one problem i have is that Dead or Alive has little Nintendo history & is strongly associated with Xbox brand. It doesn't make sense to be in Smash, same with Kingdom Hearts which is literally a Playstation mascot

None of those.

Ah, I see. Lyn is a good choice.

Cloud was similarly tangentially related to Nintendo. He was part of the FF when square broke up with Nintendo

Professor Layton and Porky Minch.

Nobody. There are enough characters. Chill out for a bit and learn to play those characters.

I just want banjo for the love of god

I want WW ganondorf.

>There are enough characters.
there's NEVER enough characters

This sounds like it makes sense until you remember there are at least four other characters that will be added to the game.

> Girl beside Cloud
Terra the Protagonist of everyone's beloved Final Fantasy VI
> Girl Between Sora & Ryu
Kasumi, the Protagonist of Dead or Alive & current Tecmo Mascot
> Girl above Pac-Man
Aigis, the Protagonist & Mascot of SMT: Persona 3 (Same series Joker is from)

go to fucking /vg/ after you make this thread a hundred times for fucks sake

>3rd Party
Banjo
Doomguy
Cuphead
Guile
Chun Li
Leon Kennedy
Jill Valentine
Viewtiful Joe
Crash Bandicoot
Scorpion

>Actual Nintendo characters
Black Shadow
Samurai Goroh
Jody Summer
Dixie Kong
Lanky Kong
Captain Syrup
Stanley The Bugman

Sans, Fluttershy, Sora and Fortnite guy.

Come up with movesets for your most wanted Yea Forums. For me, I'm still supporting Rayman in spite of his low chances.

>Special: Chargeable energy spheres
>Side Special: Shock Rocket
>Up Special: Throttle Copter
>Down Special: Ground Pound
>Standard attacks, tilts, and smashes will be the moveset from Origins/Legends. The meteor smash can be the pose that he strikes on the cover of Origins since the ground pound is already his down special.
>Throw: The lockjaw from 3. It can electrocute opponents and it works similarly to Samus's throw but with different animations.
>Final Smash: Something involving the Rabbids
>Alts: Skins from 3 and the costumes from Raving Rabbids.
>Taunts: Grimace, bouncing his torso like a basketball, and the dance he does from the first game.

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>Kasumi, the Protagonist of Dead or Alive & current Tecmo Mascot
Ah, yeah. Didn't recognize her without her blue kimono.

Twilight Sparkle
Rainbow Dash
Pinkie Pie
Rarity
Applejack
Fluttershy
Gumby
Ditto
Mean Mr Frosty
Ickybod Clay
Herman Munster
Jackie Chan
Goofus from Goofus and Gallant

Non-meme answer: Ryu Hayabusa is the only one I want

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Based, although everyone knows you aren’t Getting Ryu before Kasumi gets in first

I quite like Kasumi, so that would be an alright consolation prize I suppose. It's just weird that Koei Tecmo doesn't have a character rep at all right now.

I just want the fighter pass to not be all 3rd parties.

Agree, the best scenario is that Kasumi is added this pass & then next year once we get another one hopefully Ryu is added to promote a Ninja Gaiden reboot

>Mai Shiranui
I never knew how much I wanted this

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Still hoping for my boy

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either Banjo, Crash Bandicoot, Spyro, Cuphead, Frisk, or Waluigi (unironically)

sorry zoomers but anime is canceled, its time for super macho man

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You may joke about those 6 characters but if Sakurai were to break his own rules, one of them will definitely be in. That or the other one they've been forcing hard to make the protagonist of the show.

All I want is Doom Guy, beyond that I won't argue who's a good or bad match for Smash Bros too much unless they're just a total asspull.

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TRAVIS

Do I have shit taste?

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>Come up with movesets for your most wanted Yea Forums.
Standard Attacks: Slaps, punches, bites, finished by a tail whip.
Neutral B - Fire Breath: Bowsette unleashes a sheet of flame from her mouth that fades in strength with time.
Side B - Bowsette Bomber: Bowsette flings her backside towards the opponent, butt-slamming them with incredible force.
Up B - Flying Slam: Bowsette grabs the opponent, leaps into the air, then slams down on top of them, crushing them underneath her.
Down B - Koopa: The same as Peach's Toad, but with a Koopa Troopa instead. Additionally, after using the Koopa you can also throw its shell at the opponent.
Final Smash: This is honestly the one move I have trouble with. I don't want to just have her copy Bowser's Final Smash of punching towards the screen, but I can't really think of a Final Smash that'd fit Ultimate's "do it quick and get back to the match" mentality.
Forward Throw: Bowsette grabs the opponent, then headbutts them, smashing them with her Super Crown and horns.
Backward Throw: Bowsette grabs the opponent, then does a pirouette, slapping them away with her tail.
Taunts: Rearing her head back and laughing evilly / Crossing her arms, turning her head away and letting out a disapproving "Hmph!" / Briefly removing the Super Crown and reverting to Bowser for a second before putting it back on and turning back into Bowsette.
Alts: Dark skinned/redhead Bowsette, probably other dress designs. Maybe the default design, but skirtless.

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I'm so glad Bowsette-posting isn't allowed so you shitheads had to occupy elsewhere with your tranny meme character. All of that hard work for nothing when your post will be deleted.

I want Hitmonlee, Hitmonchan, Blaziken or Kecleon. But they're never gonna happen, even as echoes. It'd be fucking sweet to see another pokemon trainer.
Pokemon Rival: Trainers model would be Brendan/May, and they'd have Mudkip, Grovyle and Blaziken. I'd like to see Blue as the trainer but having Bulbasaur, Charmeleon and Blastoise wouldn't offer much diversity in terms of moveset for bulbasaur cause it'd just be a smaller Ivysaur.
I'd also love to see Mew as an echo, maybe how Pichu is to Pikachu, but obviously to mewtwo instead.

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Wait, seriously? When did this become a thing?

I want all you fucking retards and faggots to stop asking for third party characters.

it could be the one thing that could save his series...

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Phoenix.

never give up hope

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it's allowed as far as i know. there was a thread about it a few days ago that hit bump. he's probably just referring to the time right after the week of popularity that bowsette threads started getting deleted and they moved over to /vg/

Kill yourself.

Come on, he already has a move set and different pallet colors from the mvc game, an has a lot of tracks to choose from to put in the game.
youtube.com/watch?v=cSrrv29CAuc

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...Even though it's extremely likely we'll be getting at least one more among the DLC characters...?

Yes. Just because Sakurai agrees with you mongs that Smash should be MUGEN now doesn't make it a good idea.

We're gonna make it, Banjobro

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just my man kiryu

I am the Eggman! It's what I am!

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>I want Hitmonlee, Hitmonchan, Blaziken or Kecleon. But they're never gonna happen, even as echoes
I would love to see Hitmonchan as a Little Mac Echo.

Starfy or Fossil Fighters.

Characters can't be echo fighters of characters that aren't from the same franchise.

Jokerfag here, Pheonix is one of my most wanteds, and he deserves it too. I wish you luck.

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>wanting more boring shitty anime humans

Says who? Because I don't think anyone has ever really figured out what the rules of being an Echo Fighter actually ARE - including Sakurai.

can we all agree that Ganondorf players are Smash online's greatest cancer? i haven't fought a single Ganon player that wasn't a massive cunt: all they do is spam DORYA, and on the rare chance they manage to connect, they tea bag spam like they're 13 years old. no one else online tea bags, let alone so aggressively! it's only (and always) the Ganon players. fucking cunts, the lot of them. on the flip side, beating them gives me the greatest pleasure.

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Ace Attorney deserves some representation for holding up the weight of the 3DS for so long.

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Above all else, Claus/Masked Man. I literally couldn't give less of a fuck who would get added after that if Claus was in.

Ganondorf players are bad, but Dedede niggers are worse.

>spotted the non-human
Go back to the zoo idiot

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>all 3rd party shit
>no BLACK SHADOW

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Bind your time, Bros. The Spirit bomb of shitposting against the Steves will be fucking glorious if this happens.

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>E3 2019
>Black Shadow is revealed for DLC
>Has a cinematic trailer where he attacks Captain Falcon.
>Trailer ends with Falcon battered and beaten.
>Black Shadow does an evil laugh
>"See you at the Grand Prix"
>New F-Zero finally announced.

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Nobody cares.

>has vault boy and doomguy in the pic
>doesn’t have the Bethesda rep that’s actually going to be DLC

two months

I'll continue to dream of Reimu in Smash Ultimate until Smash 6 is announced, no matter what.

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Rayman :,)

Phantom.

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Porky will never get in, he's just too problematic of a character to be included in smash in today's political climate. Nintendo are probably avoiding making references to him simply because they want to stay away from that kind of politics.

Banjo. Want does not mean expect though.

They have shown in the past that they aren't afraid to put characters from more traditional fighting games in, also the 20th anniversary edition is coming to switch.

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this is who i want

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>Sora
Literally one of the most requested characters

Why skip on a franchise that is more popular than a lot of stuff on the list and has long history with Nintendo.

The fuck are you talking about

>Poliwhirl
Just who in the fuck do you think you are, user?

My personal picks for the last 4 would be

Leon S Kennedy
Neku Sakuraba
Ringo or Arle+Carbuncle
Edelgard

Mega Man X (Just for the fucking music, plus I love the X series barring X7)
Doom Marine (Because it would be fucking awesome plus Doom fathered the first person shooter genre (though wolfenstien grandfathered it))
Crono (Because Chrono Trigger was a very good RPG in the SNES days and would be a worthy rep
Banjo (Because he was part of Nintendo's history during the N64 days.)

All I have ever wanted.
But I would actually rather have a new game please.

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>No monster hunter
>No dragon quest
>Most popular JP franchises would be represented at this point
And I could go on for a while, those are the two most popular ones but there are hundreds of IPs that should be in before you lowered the bar far enough for a c-tier kusoge like DOA to be possible.

sooner or later... sooner or later or someone from tf2

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I know I lost the chance of seeing Bub and Bob when the didn't make it to the base roster, so no one would pay the DLC for them. I understand that completely.

Still, fuck logic at this point. I love that little fella.

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>Crono (Because Chrono Trigger was a very good RPG in the SNES days and would be a worthy rep
FF and DQ sold more and are more relevant/influential. If you are going to get a game that sold like CT you might as well go for SMRPG and give Geno a chance, about as popular nowadays and with far less IP holders.

Out of those, Ivy
Cuphead would be pretty based too

...Does Nintendo not like fat people anymore?

>Porky is too problematic
>This is fine though

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I'd rather have Yuri as a potentially unique moveset and the first horror game rep.

He would be seen as a trump parody

>bomb vagina spirit
How did they get away with this?

Too bad it'll never happen

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this is not ok

It was a different time...

>It was a different time...
...December?

Better times

Duke_Nukem

...
and?

This is unironically the roster I want

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>Play little mac att party
>Hear giggles and whispers in the crowd but stay frosty
>play against fire emblem fag
>play around with him for a while just for fun
>He finally gets a hit in
>looks straight into the camera and says "yare yare"
>run up to him and scream at the top of my lungs ORAORAORAORAORA
>easly win
>girls literally line up to suck my dick
>bros fistbump me for a sick jojo reference

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Based

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Harman Smith with Mask de and Con as 2 of his 3 playable personas

Never have I seen faggotry this despicable

And I'm a Genofag, Jesus Christ

My top pic. Edrick would be fine if they actually make him unique somehow and not another anime sword fighter

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Phoenix Wright is where it's at now that Isaac is dead

Based
real talk though, SandMan would be sweet

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He's in

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Dante

I'm a Punch-Out fan, and I would like a new PO rep. But I really do not see any other boxer fit in Smash Bros better than King Hippo.

>Kumatora
>Not Claus
Fuck off.

It sure is comforting to know that this is never going to happen

I think I’m the only one who doesn’t get the want for Sandman. Every other boxer has more personality. I’d go for Glass Joe, King Hippo, or Macho Man.

Sorry, not enough cute girls

Why the fuck would you want Claus

In masked man form, obviously.
It'd be nice to not only see a swordie/PK kid mix, but to also see him in smash in general. He's a better character than kumatora in my eyes, even if he's seen much less in the story.

Just Monika.

im not a weeb faggot, but i genuinely believe that goku would make an interesting smash character

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>Neutral: Travis charges his sword, increasing it’s range, reverts to standard length over time
>Side Special: Special attack from Travis Strikes Again, gets stronger and goes farther if you can connect it multiple times without getting hit
>Up Special: Air swimming
>Down Special: Bad Man gets called in and stands wherever you used the move, hits anyone who comes near
>F-tilt combo would end with a command grab where Travis does a suplex
>Throws are obviously wrestling moves
>Final Smash: Travis lines everybody up for his big attack but Henry jumps in and slashes everyone before he can hit it.
>Alts are different jacket + shirt combos from the games
>Taunts: At least one where he pulls out a poster and exclaims “Moe~”

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A really cool character but we both know it'll never happen.

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Gimme Adol or some shit. My picks are all music based since I know I'm just gonna keep playing Mega Man and Roy anyway

Yeah that was a good thread. Seems like things have cooled down enough that mods allow a bit of bowsette every once in a while.

Wright, Layton, Raiden, NiGHTS, Travis Touchdown, someone from Dark Souls, Quote and various Pokemon reps that I would like but will never get. Many assist trophy characters are also suitable but you know how that goes. My number one character request would have to be a large game patch that adds some damn hitstun, ffs

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Them

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I’m starting to think I’m the only faggot that wants Amaterasu from Okami...

I think I’d be ok with whoever they end up picking, as long as its not another Mario, Zelda, Pokemon, or FE rep. Not only would that make everyone seethe but it would be boring too.

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better online

Crash Bandicoot

I want the hoody skeleton with a blue eye

The only character on my wishlist is Rex honestly.

How is the dlc development even working, are they doing all of them at once or one at a time?

Dumb furfag

Counting neverevers and characters already deconfirmed? Skull Kid, Isaac, Waluigi, Gengar, King Boo, The Knight, Earthworm Jim

>Projection
Nice try, retard.

Ditto

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I appreciate the effort user.

Todd only cares about Skyrim insomuch as he can shit out a port and get an easy few million sales out of it. They're more focused on that space game and Elder Scrolls 6 atm.
I can totally see Vault Boy and Dragonborn as assists though.

I'm with you Ammybro. She would definitely bring something new control-wise. Celestial brush final smash would be amazing.

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All of them. Not joking. I am fine with every-
>Edelgard gets in
FUCK

where's spongebob?

I want you to kill yourself tranny faggot.

Master chief
Sans
Eggman
Bubble bobble

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My most wanted is probably Crash. I loved Wrath of Cortex and I genuinely enjoy this character's design too. I also think from a marketing standpoint that with Crash Team Racing nearing and the trilogy selling 10 mil, now would be a perfect time to add him. But if he doesn't get in, I can honestly live with it given we'll have 80 characters by the end of DLC. Whoever you guys want, I hope they make it.

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Nightmare would get in over ivy.

I would love Crash but I really want a Coco skin.

He’s in

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I could see it work if they keep the moveset pretty straightfoward. They both also are about the same height so I think it could work.

unironically Steve

based!

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Here are mine. Phoenix is my most wanted and Nathan is just a never ever.

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Who do you think that would make a good addition to Smash from the Megaman series?
Hard mode: No Zero

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X, Sigma, Vile and maybe Vent/Aile

>:(

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I want Naval Piranha to be a semi-clone of Piranha Plant. He could also be a yoshi rep and a villain rep. It’s a win-win.

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Oh I’m way ahead of you.

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she will never get in

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Template?

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Klonoa, Master Chief and Arle.

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If I posted the full thing it would be too long, so here are the specials and FS.

Neutral B: (Fire/Switch Weapon) Weapons depend on Loadout, default loadout it [Assault Rifle, Magnum, Frag Grenade], Tap B to swap between firearms, hold B to fire weapon. If using a special loadout, when all ammunition is depleted Master Chief will switch back to his Default one.

Side B: (Throw grenade) Press B to throw whatever grenade you have equipped. Grenades trajectory can be altered by angling Master Chief before throwing.

Down B: (Loadout change) Call for one of the three alternate loadouts: Loadout 1[Shotgun, Dual Submachine Guns, Flashbang Grenade], Loadout 2[Covenant Carbine, Needler, Plasma Grenade], Loudout3[Spartan Laser, Fuel Rod Cannon, Incendiary Grenade]. Deal damage to fill a meter to get access to each level of loadouts, loadout will then take 3 seconds spawn in a container at a random point on the map. Loadout can be attacked and destroyed by opponents.

Up B: (Jet Pack) Master Chief uses his jetpack to gain height.

Final Smash: (Warthog Run) Master Chief hits the opponent with the gravity hammer, sending them flying. They land on exploading Piller of Autumn as Master Chief is escaping on a Warthog. Master Chief hits the opponent with his Warthog sending them flying, it then cuts to Master Chief escaping Halo on a Longsword as it blows up.

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Characters that are fun to play while also be some nice surprises, from companies and games that definitely deserve DLC and haven't fucked everyone in the ass with their bullshit.
So, in this case, everyone not named Steve, Eldritch, Banjo, Noctis, anything from Bethesda or anything Sonic.

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Just post the reimu on a leash panting like a dog pic already
You know you have it

the WHAT

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Just give me Rayman god damn it

All I wish for is my bear and bird

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Geno

Alright, I’ll bite.
Where is it

I want Goemon along with a new Goamon side-scroller

Who /phoenix/ here?

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Thats awfully specific user
You know you’re not in the requests thread, right?

None, I don't think Smash is much fun

Then whaddya doin here?

Banjo
Sora
Frisk
Monokuma

Would pretty much make this the best DLC pack possible for me

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Sephiroth

Jedah or Morrigan

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>Crash
>Ammy
>Phoenix
>Rayman (I know he's a spirit but fuck it)

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source me chief

I wish I knew, user. I wish I knew.

>Wonder Red
>Travis Touchdown
>Bomberman
>Saki
>Mach Rider
>Pretty much any Arms rep but Spring Man
>Teleroboxer (As a Little Mac echo or a unique fighter)
>Doomguy/Doomslayer
>Hammer Bro

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I WANT Cuphead to be in Smash, honestly.

>Both Min Min and Twintelle are spirits already
Mechanica is my only hope for a non-shit character

>No Zero

Ugh, fine. Volnutt would be good, he's already had a really unique moveset in Tatsunoko.

Great, but the Neutral B is pretty ridiculous.

>wanting another persona rep
Get in line Demifiend is next

Pokey "Porky" Minch

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Posting the semi-official list of fanbases for notyetinthegame characters, if you disagree and get upset with the top ones then congrats, you prove my point of them being bad
ABSOLUTELY S.H.I.T. TIER
>Steve
>Ironic Reimu-fags
>Shadow
>Trashley
>Ironic Gocuck fans
>Non-vidya characters
Awful Tier
>Geno
>Waluigi
>Shantae
>Erdrick fans who didn't even play DQ3, let alone any DQ
Bad Tier
>Isaac
>Doomguy
>Banjo Kazooie
>Sans
Ness Seal of Aproval (aka OK) Tier
>Everyone else
Doesn't Exist Tier
>Loto/Roto fans who played all of the DQ games
>Master Chief
>OG DB Goku fans

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>Edelgard
>Waluigi
>Spyro
>Crash
>Sans
>Shantae
>Banjo-Kazooie real talk I actually really want them too but let's not pretend they doesn't make the rounds frequently for NPCs
>Master Chief
>Edrick or whatever his name is, I've totally always been a big fan of Dragon War or whatever it's called
>BotW Champion(s)

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I really don't. I don't doubt that something like that exists, but I seriously have never seen it.
Have a dancing neko reimu instead.

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The only things I disagree with are Final Smash and skins. Origins and Legends basically amped him up with some decent palette swaps so if it was half skins from those games and the other half were from 3 that would be fine. Final Smash could be the Moskito or a reference to the end of some of the music levels from Legends with Globox and Barbara popping up and just act as a screen nuke

Sans fans not in the worst tier. Zoom zoom

I just want Banjo because my brothers have wanted him since Smash 64. Also I'm a Sorafag first and foremost, glad we don't make the shitlists.

>71: Joker
>72: Doom Slayer
>73: Sub-Zero
>73ε: Scorpion
>74: Gen 8 Pokemon
>75: Sora
Find ONE flaw

>Girl next to Cloud
That’s Sora user and is a He.

He's talking about Terra user, he mentions Sora in the next line

Doom Slayer
Kiryu
don't care who else

I know. It’s a joke.

Oh, I'm sorry user I have crippling autism

Sans fans are not in the worst tier simply because they don't shit up threads or discussions as bad as everyone in the higher tiers.

Morrigan, Felicia, Gallon
Akuma
MMZero, Pegasolta, Genblem, Fenri
Red Savarin
Squall
Domon Kasshu lol
Strider Hiryu

Won't happen because ZUN isn't that big of a sell out
And that's a good thing, Touhou western fanbase is quite literally the most cancerous fanbase in the world, don't want the franchise getting even more mainstream

Tifa. Need more tiddies.

Im just burned out on all the sword users and bipedal anime characters. The Celestial Brush mechanics would be a little tricky to implement but we need more quadruped and artsy/non-edgy characters to balance out Joker and any other possible DLC inclusions that would be represented similarly.
Piranha Plant was done pretty well if it’s any indication of that being possible.

Either Sora or Neku. Or KOS-MOS to loophole in some more Xeno love. After that I'd have no complaints and would just want to seem them go full crazy. Bring on Master Chief, Reimu, Banjo, Dante, etc. Then maybe go ham on Echo fighters when everything's said and done with the fighters pass.

>Domon Kasshu lol
I will never not be mad they removed Ike's Domon alt from Brawl.

I just want Jeanne but her chances are non-existant at this point

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Close enough

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>more anime and pokemon
B8

How could someone not want more pokemon

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It exists. I’ve... I’ve seen it.

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Nice

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Whoever the main character of the newest Call of Duty is

If you say so user
Fuck now i gotta look for it

Based and Banjopilled, Based and Shadowpilled, Based and Boopilled

same. Everyone will be here

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I like it

Please report back on your findings

steve

I'm thinking he's in, YEP.

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If BK get in I demand loads of fanart of them hanging out with their N64 buddies (Mario, Pikachu, DK, Diddy, Young Link).

He's The Ultimate Lifeform, Shadow the Hedgehog!

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I think Shadow is cringy as fuck but I also think Sakurai is a retard for shooting down such an incredibly obvious Echo (I know purists will wail at me over "muh fidelity, Shadow became more unique over time", but Dark Samus is proof that this means precisely shit all).

They definitely held off his AT reveal until the last Direct on purpose but lord only knows why. (Cowards also didn't even bother deconfirming Skull Kid in the Direct and just did it later with a sheepishly silent listing on the site afterwards).

Who could possibly want more? It's just spamming the roster.

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Only the best indie rep

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Why do people want Shadow over other reps like Tails, Knuckles, or Eggman?

change.org/p/nintendo-lets-get-baby-mario-in-super-smash-bros-ultimate
fill out my petition if this is who you want also :D

Because it's clear third party franchises aren't getting full second characters.

Now and forever

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forgot pic >.

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fellow genobro, face it. he's not gonna make it unless a weird miracle happens. nintendo and square are buttbuddies again, so let's just hope for geno and mallow to come back some other way.

also i think erdrick is based even though i would have preferred slime or eight

Legit question: Why do people actually want Steve?

Shadow is cool and a good character, those other ones aren't. The only Sonic character with actual character development.

Well, one reason I’ve read is just for the sake of “seeing Banjo fans seethe”.

True, but Yea Forums is full of weebs that hate The Mouse, so rage can still be expected.

LMAO BTFO!!! XDDDD YOUR NEVER EVER DIDN'T GET IN BUT /OURGUY/ DID, BASED STEVEBROS RISE UP!

that's literally it. there are a few actual, real steve fans out there who ACTUALLY want him, but they're a minority.

>It's a joke.
Should I laugh now?

Yeah, I guessed that was it. It's just silly. Personally I want Banjo because he was a huge icon on the N64. And honestly, I'll be ok with anyone getting in at this point. Except Steve.

for teh salty tearz of course XD lol
I'm honestly not sure when it comes to unironic stevefags. I like Minecraft and acknowledge it's importance, but I wouldn't want it as a character in Smash. I feel like it just doesn't mesh well.

yessssss

Skull Kid, Porky, Masked Man, Sans/Frisk

t. sansfag

If any undertale shit made it in I would put the game down the same day.

Everything about this list save for Joker and Sora.

They don't do that anymore, but for a while after the game was announced they spammed a fuck ton and said sans would be revealed at the next nindie direct.
After that predictably didn't happen they calmed down though.

My man Joker already got in, but if I got my absolute dream picks, then...
>Sora
>Banjo
>Shantae
>Frisk
Of course Shantae is basically a never-ever so I guess Jill Valentine.

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This is wonderful. Saved.

In terms of indie titles, if not even Shovel Knight can make it as a playable, I can't see Undertale getting a character. I could always be horribly, horribly wrong though

I think Undertale got a much bigger following in Japan than Shovel Knight. Who knows who can get in. I really wanted Shovel Knight, but I'd honestly be okay with Sans.

Undertale is like 3 times as successful as Shovel Knight.
Sans would not be playable though, it'd be Frisk/Chara.
Sans is perfect for an assist trophy.

Shit taste. Knuckles is older and was designed to contrast with Sonic both appearance and personality wise.

Sans would have such a cool final smash, though.

Nobody gives a fuck. Shadow is by far the second most popular Sonic character, that's all that matters.

I like kumatora but a masked Man would be sweet!!!

The series would need to make a comeback first, but fucking hell it would be a glorious, much needed comeback.

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>Reimu
>Steve
>Sans
>Fire Emblem shill pick
>Baby Daisy
But unironically

It'll never happen.

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The only reasonable MS rep if Master Chief isn't chosen. Fuck Banjocucks and Stevefags

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Weird way to spell Rouge

Based

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Never ever but would be based as fuck

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>Proto Man still isn't in
What a crock of shit

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Thanks for giving me ideas for my Leon moveset. Your contribution is appreciated considering your most wanted character who as nothing to do with Nintendo, has no games which are masterpieces, and will never be in Super Smash Bros; whereas my most wanted character, is from a series that has had games which were exclusive to Nintendo consoles, from a company that already has 3 characters and many more references already in the game, who has 4 games that are masterpieces, and will eventually be in Super Smash Bros.

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He's in.

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>Shadow is by far the second most popular Sonic character
[citation needed] because I am pretty sure Eggman is bigger.

This

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>who as nothing to do with Nintendo
Sakurai said this wasn't an issue

>has no games which are masterpieces
Master Chief is one of the most iconic characters in gaming and Halo's 1-3 were fucking huge.

>and will eventually be in Super Smash Bros.
We are more likely to get a Monster Hunter rep before anything Resident Evil.

youtu.be/5JgBTdPQI3U?t=34

Even Eggman admits that Shadow is the second most popular character.

>has no games which are masterpieces
Oh boy, that's a good one!

The best I could find is a 2006 Sonic channel popularity poll
web.archive.org/web/20131005134742/http://sonic.sega.jp/SonicChannel/event/016/index.html

What makes you think they can have nothing to do with Nintendo? They had to have appeared on a Nintendo console, correct?

I agree with you about Halo 1-3 but they're all Bs at best. Why not put a much more acclaimed series with A+ games in first?

I agree with you that Monster Hunter is looking more likely, but with the success of Resident Evil 2 (2019) and some of the games coming to the Switch my hopes went way up.

>They had to have appeared on a Nintendo console, correct?
Not that guy, but Sakurai did say in an interview that this wasn't a NECESSITY per se, though it was something that greatly helps. Though at the moment all Smash character have been on Nintendo consoles, yeah

This roster is not as good as it could be because:

King Boo is cringe, the best possible scenario is that the character is just called Boo; the blue tongue and the dark eyes are way too much.

Midna deserves better than to be an echo

Young Link could be an echo honestly, but in the best case the hero of Wind, and the hero of Time would both have really unique movesets with references from their games

Silvally is alright but there are so many cooler Pokémon

It would be a same to lose Chrom, but I'd get it. Why can't he just be an echo of an echo?

Louie deserves better than to just be an echo

Shadow is the most idiotic choice when Dr. Robotnik is so superior. Knucles is better, fucking Tails would be better. Also Sonic sucks and Mania is the best game in the series and the only one I'd give an A rating to

Things that are missing:
Classic Final Fantasy rep: Marche, Terra, Cecil, Mog
Crono
Ryu (Ninja Gaiden)
Tetris
A Tales of character (Lloyd)
Leon Kennedy/Jill Valentine
Another Xeno character: Elma
Advance Wars character
Pokémon with unique was of moving/attacking to add variety (Parasect, Probopass, Necrozma, etc)
Paper Mario
Hector, or another cool Fire Emblem character from one of the good games that doesn't use a Sword

I'm not that big of a fan of Steve getting in but he would be a bonafide Yea Forums pick considering Minecraft's inital popularity was due to Notch constantly shilling it here. Also if Sakurai can make a generic Mario enemy fun to play as, he can totally do something with Minecraft mechanics to do the same to Steve.

>They had to have appeared on a Nintendo console, correct?
No, incorrect. Sakurai has already said that being on a Nintendo console is not a requirement.

>but they're all Bs at best.
That's literally just your opinion. Halo has won numerous GotY awards and Guinness put Master Chief as the third most iconic Video game character of all time.

Don't you reckon he'll keep that tradition though?

based

I'd like a source on that statement, but Sora Ltd. is never ever going to add a character from a game which is the console mascot of one of their economic rivals from an M rated series who only shoots guns. And no, before you say "Bayonetta though" she doesn't only shoots guns, and does so in a cartoonish over the top way that Master Chief does not. Master Chief shoots guns with bullets, and while I could see Leon getting the Snake treatment, I cannot say the same for Master Chief without making him a laser sword wielding, stick bomb throwing, bastardization of his character. It's the same reason Doomguy and Scorpion will never be in without being completely gutted of everything their series is known for.

No, he'll break it once he thinks the shock value will be at maximum.

Kill your fucking self

Honestly, I'm a simple guy. I just want cute cartoony arcade or classic characters. I'm STILL seething over Bomberman. It would be cool if they found a way to incorporate Tetris as a character as well.

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Well I hope it will be Geralt in that case. That would be so fucking amazing. I'd put him on my most wanted list if he didn't break the tradition. Such an amazing character from the best game I've ever played. So much moveset potential and the stage would be so amazing.

Pretty Bland

>It's the same reason Doomguy and Scorpion will never be in without being completely gutted of everything their series is known for.
Mortal Kombat is known for being violent.
Doom is also known for being violent, but unlike Mortal Kombat, Doom also pioneered an entire genre, and also was a pioneer in game design, graphics technology, programming (you have no idea how much of a boon Carmack releasing the Doom source code in 97 was to FOSS coding), and other bits of video game subculture like speedrunning and modding.

Because Sonic fans are known for their great sense of taste...

I would basically be happy with this but I don't understand why Dead or Alive needs to be represented at all. Also Robotnik>Tales, it should be the Persona protagonist, Leon can be an echo of Jill, and while shilled just as much, KOS-MOS would not be as fun to play as someone from Xenoblade Chronicles X Like Elma.Also, big props for adding a Tetris character that makes sense. Tetris should be a character in Super Smash Bros. Bros.

That doesn't really change the fact that it would feel very tonally inconsistent to have Doomguy shooting Mario with a shotgun user

I don't disagree with you, DOOM has done so much for gaming as a whole, probably in the top 15 most influential pieces of game media. Too bad there's no actual way to put Doomguy in Smash.

>problematic

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DREAM DLC:
CRASH BANDICOOT
EMPIRE MAN
DARTH VADER
MARCUS JUNIUS BRUTUS THE YOUNGER

I want some Microsoft characters like banjo

Sonic also says that fast is his middle name, we shouldn't take the shows's jokes as facts.
That's a little better but I really wish we had a more decent poll to prove whenever the Shadowfag is delusional or not.

Posting the best 3rd party DLC list

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*decent
recent.

>Erdrick
>confirmed

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>erdrick
>confirmed
fuck off

Why is Erdrick in the confirmed spot when he's yet to be fully announced?

>Sora
>Doomguy or Master Chief
>Banjo & Kazooie
>Monster Hunter
Don't really care about the last spot honestly. I wanted Springman and another Xenoblade rep more than any third party but that's not gonna happen now.

Bubblun
Banjo
Phoenix Wright
Professor Layton
Skull Kid
Mallow (I just like him better than Geno, not sure why)

That pretty much covers my most wanted. Pic related is my most wanted out of all of them.

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This would be ideal based on this list

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Toon Ganon
Paper Mario
Chibi Robo

Don't expect it to happen, but its fun to dream

based and mallow-pilled

mallow is a better character in every way, but i see why people like geno. he has potential. it just wasn't used like mallow's was. mallow got his arc; geno just got the star pieces and fucked off.

>Steve
>Sackboy
>Heavy
>Fawful
All 4 of my picks are so never-ever it hurts
Yeah im a stevefag fuck off
Some of us are decent and dont spam that horrid model

Zelda needs more representation, but the solution to the problem of having 3 Links and 2 Zeldas cannot be 2 Ganondorfs, especially if he isn't in his beast form with his trident

>Some of us are decent and dont spam that horrid model
more steve fans need to be like you and your happiness is the main reason why i'd be pleased to see steve in

finally someone who actually played the game

Thank you friend
Best of luck in your picks getting in!

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Yeah realistically the representation would be off. I just want toon ganon because he looks the coolest to me and his two swords could hopefully make a fun moveset that isn't like other sword fighters

This is the most plesant steve encounter ive ever seen in this shithole
Not a 3D model in sight
Splendid, I think im ok with steve getting in now

At this point I'm holding out hope for Toon Tingle myself. He's the only character besides Midna (true from) who both has enough of a following, and isn't already in the game in some way Assist Trophy, Spirit, Stage Hazard

yeah, there really aren't enough people who legitimately played the game and support geno because of that. personally, i think geno making a comeback would be great, but only because i'd like to see his potential put to use. smash wouldn't expand on his personality, his backstory, his conflicts, and his ambitions beyond star road's protector.
bring him back via the mario rpgs first (which has a snowball's chance in hell of happening), expand on him, use him to his fullest potential, and then see about a possible smash inclusion. right now, he sorely needs expansion on his character before he gets anything else.

After thinking it over a little bit I think Mallow just has more of a charm than Geno. It's hilarious that he can make it literally rain when he cries, and him believing that he's a tadpole is so innocent. He also has a lot of potential with his moves at with magic while Geno has an... arm cannon I guess? People seem to Only like him for his outward appearance.

This is all part of their plan to make you more accepting of them. Don't fall for their lies.

FUCK PLOT

You called?

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Everything you said is wrong.

>2019
>>Black Shadow is revealed for DLC
>>Has a cinematic trailer where he attacks Captain Falcon.
>>Trailer ends with Fa
I care.

Whom.
Fucking murrmutts, why is this so difficult for you?

Kiryu would be cool. Yakuza 1&2 were on jp WiiU.

True, he has appeal and could have a unique moveset

Crono is the most boring SE pick.

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At this poing, nobody. I already got Splatoon Rep and Castlevania Rep. I even go A persona Rep I didn't ask for, but secretly wished for.

At this point I just want pick that will turn Yea Forums into a salty/angry mess for weeks.

That gives me such a heartache. Mario RPG and Superstar Saga are two of the best games ever, as well as Paper Mario and TYD. Why do the Mario rpgs suck so much now. What if Geno was put in and they remade RPG with actual good graphics which respected Square's original designs and expanded on the story and characters in a meaningful way

... I forgot I wanted this. We got pacman instead, which was the safer pic, but I do want Klonoa so bad.

>missing the point of pokeballs

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>All those bad pokemon pics
>Except Golurk
Eh, can't pick too hard on you, I agree with a lot of your list actually.

no one. I want the series to end on a high note. no more patches, no new characters, no sequel. let it be done. it's reached its logical conclusion. this is coming from someone who's been playing smash since 64. let it rest in peace.

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>Echo character in the fighter pass
You're a shit person for wanting this.

that would be so sick. as much as i prefer mallow, i'll even play devil's advocate in favor of geno and what would probably make him that much more acceptable to the general public.

>expand on his personality. he shows the tiniest inklings of it with TINY moments of enthusiasm, anger (try leaving star hill before getting the star piece), and a sense of 90's dorkiness (YO, SMITHY). it's a start, but it's far from enough. expand on that. expand on how he behaves in different situations. make him seem less flat and more three-dimensional.
>explore star road and his duties attached. what is his life like up there? does he protect star road just because he has to, or does he want something more? what are his conflicts? what's stopping him from coming back to see his friends? is he too duty-bound? that would make for some interesting development and seeing a geno that learns to think for himself more and for strictly work less, striking a healthy balance.
>does he have connections to star haven? the star spirits of star sanctuary? rosalina? the lumas? starborn valley from paper mario? was he born there? does he know twink?

there is so much potential, even more than when he was first conceived, and it's pretty sad that it was squandered. mallow got excellent treatment, but geno didn't. he's flat as a fucking board.

> I prefer MINECRAFT

Sans is ABSOLUTELY S.H.I.T. TIER

Just look at this thread, Sora is in no way an edgy rare pick.

>2 (TWO, DOS) Capcom characters as DLC

You seem like such a great dude with cool ideas. I really enjoyed reading that and I wanted to show you my characterization tier list. This is the rating I give how strong each fighter is outside of Smash, wanted to see what you think if you'd like

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Listen, I'm not saying it's going to happen, I'm just saying it would be the best case scenario given the options on that list

Thank you brother. Have more

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Louie went from below top 10 to around top 5 most wanted characters. Thanks

Erdrick is a better pick than Crono
>Uses more than katanas as a weapon
>Better spell variety
>Older character
>Franchise is alive and sells well, better than CT, outsold it in the SNES and it's remakes outsold CT remakes on the PS1 and DS
>Also from a franchise that had some real impact in gaming outside of just "I guess it was good."

Characters from unrepresented franchises I enjoy, not meme picks or "most likely newcommers" bullshit. Joker was at the top of the list

Jill or Leon (RE)
Etna or a Prinny (Disgaea)
Someone from Granblue Fantasy, not Gran though
Doom Slayer

You're thinking too small. Crono's companions would fight with him too and give him a huge variety of moves.

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>Talking about tastes
>on Yea Forums of all places
Lmao.

Crash Bandicoot
Banjo Kazooie
Sora
Mickey Mouse

Fat fuck team=best team

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They’re meant to be free echo bonuses not apart of the pass. I even changed the title from “fighters pass”.

sourcegaming.info/2015/10/05/sakuraithirdparty/

>And no, before you say "Bayonetta though" she doesn't only shoots guns, and does so in a cartoonish over the top way that Master Chief does not
Master Chief has more than just human guns at his disposal, He has multiple plasma weapons, laser weapons, rockets and grenade launchers. If need be, Chief doesn't even have to touch a single gun that fires bullets.

>Master Chief shoots guns with bullets, and while I could see Leon getting the Snake treatment, I cannot say the same for Master Chief without making him a laser sword wielding, stick bomb throwing, bastardization of his character
Yeah, because you have a bias. There is no reason Chief can't get the snake treatment. Spartan's a physical fighters, there are numerous assassinations in Halo that prove that. And how is wielding weapons from his game a basterdization of his character?

>It's the same reason Doomguy and Scorpion will never be in without being completely gutted of everything their series is known for.
Except Halo has never been as graphic as Doom, the game doesn't show anywhere near as much blood as either Doom or MK. By your logic, Leon would be bastardized because REmake was extremely violent.

Basing it off on the list alone Leon>Jill and Eggman>Tails

Your mother
And this

Honestly and unironically this. The maelstrom of shitposting surrounding jokers reveal was delicious.

On that note, I dont suppose anyone has screenshots? I forgot to take any and I really regret it now.

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>Least generous lawyers: Square Enix
>Most generous: Capcom
It's entirely possible that there could be more than one, especially if there's another wave later.
We all know their collection of IPs is strong enough to rival Marvel's on several occasions. And half of the MvC roster comes from the same guy as Bayonetta.

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What's the deal with her? I haven't played Metal Gear.

What an absolute shitshow

Honestly I don't see Dixie Kong as being a potential echo character. The peanut pop gun wouldn't make sense for her to use and her recovering with her hair would make more sense than the jetpack. I see a Fox - Falco situation with her where the moves are similar but she's unique enough from Diddy to not be an echo.

Here are my “never evers”, idk I actually think Banjo can get in but probably not the other guys. Although my other “never ever” is Joker

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so why the fuck do people think Brave is Banjo? why Erdrick?

Forget it, I just looked it up. Bomb in her vagoo.

>Ironic Reimu-fags
Literally nobody. People posting her actually want her in
>Sans
>Waluigi
>Shantae
Should be "ABSOLUTELY S.H.I.T. TIER"

Some developer of smash Ultimate posted this, also there were rumors early on of Square being stingy with Cloud coming back so people are saying a deal was made where another character from Square will be DLC?

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It would be surprising if we don't get anything from Microsoft considering the stuff they're adding to the Switch like the Xbox gamer pass.

Reimu is the only good pick there

Oh also “””leakers”””” are claiming Erdrick is coming as DLC

>ZUN
>Giving a shit about people using his characters
Also Smash wouldn't make Touhou more mainstream than Mother or F Zero

Most of that stuff is rumors.

>better than CT
kek
>CT remakes
retard

She has a bubble gum gun. She can use that instead of Diddy’s peanut gun.
And her up-B can be similar to K. Rool’s but instead she uses her hair. Then they can change a few animations to make some of her attacks hair attacks. Boom. I only suggest an echo because at this point it’s echo or nothing.

>Better spell variety
user look at all of Crono's double and triple techs chrono.fandom.com/wiki/Tech

Stop posting this garbage over and over you fucking retard

You’re welcome. He’s a great character, and I love all of the possibilities he has.

also here’s another one. Last Louie one I promise

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Porky bots assemble!

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Professor Layton
Bomberman
Rayman
steve no meme

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>Ctrl+F Arthur
>0
it's sad

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Goku, sans, some Touhou character, any character that isn't in the leak of the week

You fucks do know he's also the one who posted the Kirby pic with Majora's Mask right? And that that ended up meaning nothing

We need some new Great Battle games

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Well you see, Erdrick is brave in his game! So he's in.
That was posted after people came to the conclusion that "brave" meant Erdrick when 99% of video game protagonists could be considered brave

Based good taste anons

Surely Sakurai didn't forget one of the NES Golden Age titles.... right?

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>some Touhou character
Unless it's Reimu, because she's the main character and since Touhou is vidya she would actually make sense

>Porky and Reimu
>literally budget Genos
>good taste
kek

It would make sense but people would still get PISSED if she was announced

Yikes

I'd be fine with just a DQ rep honestly.
What I don't want is Banjo, Geno or Sora. Geno is already never ever since he's a spirit, but all 3 of these characters have the most insufferable fans who honest to God get mad at shitposting from Stevefags. It's like console wars except for Smash autists

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They'd probably add her and marisa at the same time

Not really. Rosterfags usually either want Reimu in or don't care. Virtually all the anti-Reimu posting on this site comes from a discord.

Richtofen

Would be great for representing an unrepped genre, the west and being extremely innovative.

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The problem is that unlike Ken and Richter, Marisa can't be an echo.
Ken and Richter were made specifically to play like Ryu and Simon. Ken because he was basically "player 2 Ryu" and Richter because they didn't want the gameplay to change too much.
With Marisa it's pretty much the way around, her purpose is to give a choice to the player to play a character that's different than Reimu. And they really don't have much in common. So if Marisa got in Touhou would be the first 3rd party series to have 2 reps without one of them being an echo.
I'm not saying it's impossible, but if Touhou is actually included in the fighter pass, it's likely only Reimu is part of the pack.

WE ARE THE ROSTER FANS!

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Says the DQ fan whose series was never considered as possible DLC candidates until the 5chan and datamine leaks.
And at this point, it's contrariarism for the sake of not liking popular characters.

Banjofags think Brave = Banjo because they're retarded and don't know what Pakku and Jack mean to their characters (Pakku being part of the Japanese name for the Piranha Plant and Jack being a reference either to the mascot of SMT or Joker's tarot card or whatever Persona fans babble on about). They believe the names are phonetic or something, and that only the first letters matter.
Erdrickfags/Lotofags are saying Brave refers to the DQ3 protage since Yuusha means Brave Hero if we simplify it. The reason why they believe it's Loto specifically is because of Sakurai saying one of his favourite games is DQ3, in addition to DQ being one of the most popular franchises in Japan, as well as helping make modern JRPGs what they are today and having a long history with Nintendo, Nintendo commonly receiving the definitive versions of DQ games.

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when will waifufags learn?

I agree with this, the only reason I even suggested it is cause I feel it would be the ideal introduction of the series. Just one would be lame.

and Marisa is best girl so there's that

>Phoenix Wright
>Soma Cruz
Based as fuck.

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Edward Richtofen?

When the only female character in the fighter pass will be Reimu and there will be literally no fanservice done with her because ZUN won't let it happen
Watch ZSS 2.0 happen

That their actions have consequences!

both the insufferable fans and the steveposting is horrible. both extremes are bad.

it makes me feel bad for the in-between, decent fans who don't act like pieces of shit, because they're being lumped in with the extremes.

I'm fairly sure Cuphead is still independently owned, just MS exclusive. Chief ain't happening regardless.

Rabbids, goku, and spongebob, gotcha

>Says the DQ fan whose series was never considered as possible DLC candidates until the 5chan and datamine leaks.
DQ has always been a possibility since they started adding 3rd Party characters like Snake and Sonic. Final Fantasy's Cloud as DLC back in Smash 4 merely increased the chance of a DQ character getting in.
And when you start a sentence with "Says the X", usually you use that to make a point about how the person you're responding to is just like the thing they're complaining about. I couldn't care less if Loto or Slime don't make it in, and I won't care about the shitposting because I regularly stop going to Yea Forums for 5 days after a new character is announced for Smash, even if it's someone I like, like Simon and Richter.
>And at this point, it's contrariarism for the sake of not liking popular characters.
I gave my reasons for not wanting them in. I didn't say I don't like them, liking a character and wanting them in Smash aren't a package deal. I like shota Gohan. Would I want him in Smash? Fuck no, it'd turn the game into a MUGEN like Tekken is slowly becoming (which is good, but I'd rather there just be vidya in Ultimate).
I do dislike Sora though, but that's mostly an issue with his character being a painfully generic Shounen protag with a painfully generic FF character design.
If the fags I mentioned didn't give into retarded shitposting obviously made by somebody who exists solely to bait retards, then Steveposting wouldn't flood most threads.

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Yeah

was caddy's PSABR video too much of a painful reminder for you user?

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I thought I was the only one who wanted Silvally

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Gilgamesh or Cecil as a classic Final Fantasy rep

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Waluigi

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>Joker
>Solaire
>Banjo Kazooie
>Terry Bogard
>Jill Valentine
Screencap this.

I leaf it to this guy.

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How about each skin is Richtofen, Dempsey, Takeo, and Nikolai old and new

Neutral B: monkey bomb
Side B: Wunderwaffe
Down B: ray gun
Up B: paralyzer or lunar lander

Final smash: summoning key

He's in

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Not bond but just the cartridge is playable

These two (and K. Rool) were the only characters I wanted. While Dixie deserves it more than Shadow, I DEFINITELY thought Shadow stood the better chance. Baffled that neither made it in.

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never ever

Always and forever.

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>no Arthas
It's like they don't want free money.

No gallant as an echo?

Who?

I guess Joker would take one away, but hey

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>When the only female character in the fighter pass will be Reimu and there will be literally no fanservice done with her because ZUN won't let it happen
Sounds great to me. Fuck secondaries who treat Reimu like a generic kawai moeblob, completely ignoring her personality. The mainline games always kept fanservice to a minimum.

Crash bandicoot
Special: death tornado, functions like it did in warped
Up special: bounce crate, works like Sonic's spring, can be used by other characters, can be broken and has a small chance of dropping food if items are on
Side special: wumpa bazooka
Down special: body slam
Dash can be his crouch slide
Final smash: aku aku mask, just flies around stage like Pikachus volt tackle
Can crawl

>Down special: body slam
Wouldn't that be better as his Down Smash like Incineroar?

Them.

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Chosen Undead, Doomguy, Banjo, and Geno are all characters I'd be very happy to see get in.

I mean they shared the same physics in the remake

Exactly, this is why I can't wait to see this happen and waifufags get BTFO again

Maybe. Got a better alternative for a down special? Maybe a TNT toss or something

>B
Burst of shots from the plasma rifle that can be aimed up and down. If the whole burst hits, the last hit does strong knockback.

>Up B
Rocket Jump

>Down B
Eats a Berserk Pack and gains increased stats but can't use his specials for the duration, including up B. A moves involving his weapons (ex Super Shotgun fsmash) are changed to vicious hand to hand moves.

>Forward B
Lunges forward with the chainsaw for a command throw.

>Throws
Performs a glory kill but relents at the last second and just tosses the victim.

>Final Smash
BFG fires a huge, slow ball of energy that damages anything that gets near it and explodes on contact. Doomguy is faster than the blast so he can try to knock people into it as it travels.

>Alts
4 classic skins with the old multiplayer colors, 4 Doomslayer skins based on Doom 3, Doom 64 and Quake colors.

>Taunt
1: Pets a bunny.
2: Strikes the pose from the boxart.
3: If there's a wall in the background, knocks on it as if checking for secrets, grunting. If not, knocks on the floor.

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HELLO BANJO

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You guys don't give out (you)s like Yea Forums does.

HERES JOHNNY

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Which character has the ultimate chaotic evil fanbase?

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and I love steve posting and I want steve to get in just to see Yea Forums go absolutely nuclear for days

Jill is officially the mascot of the series, Leon is irrelevant. It’s either Jill or Chris who would be added.
Tails is literally the Luigi to Sonic’s Mario, he would be added before your meme shit like Eggman. And so would Amy & Knuckles
DoA is Tecmo’s flagship franchise & Kasumi is the company mascot. She would 100 % be added before anyone else, therefore i cannot add someone irrelevant at this point like Ryu without adding Kasumi first. Which is fine since she originated from Arcades like Pac-Man & Street Fighter

Youre obsessed. This is actual cringe.

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I'd never snub my nose at a big titty ninja, but other than that she has nothing to offer.

I see you post him a lot. What makes him so likable to you? To me, he was that one boss that repeated the same lines over and over while singing

>Arthas
I REALLY want a character that shatters more of these so called "rules" to DLC that everyone seems to think exist
>UUUGH IT NEEDS TO BE ON A NINTENDO SYSTEM AT SOME POINT
>UUUGH IT'S TOO VIOLENT
>UUUGH IT'S TOO IRRELEVANT

I don't really care who, I just want people to stop assuming that there's rules that Sakurai and Nintendo couldn't just ignore.

She gives us Ryu & uncensored DoA games on the Switch

"Must have appeared on a Nintendo system" patternfags are one of the many reasons why I want Reimu in

Sakurai outright stated several rules for Smash 3rd parties over the last decade. People just cry over them simply because it goes against the idea of their most wanted being added

>Delusional

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It’s a Nintendo game, they aren’t added a character whose not strongly associated with Nintendo or the Arcades like Mario & DK

None of the shit he listed are part of Sakurai's rules though

legit choices would be dante or ryu hayabusa, meme choices would be saber or akuma.

how?

Reggie and 2015 Sakurai say otherwise

A necessary evil then

>452362042
I never said delusional in that post, but delusional is aptly describing Banjofags. They latch onto an unconfirmed codename scheme, a slide that stopped getting brought up when somebody said character stats change between updates for DLC, and their only actual evidence to point to him getting in is Phil Spencer.

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Steve

Wrong
> Sakurai’s rules for 3rd Party newcomers
> 1. Characters from a series that has no future are rarely chosen
> 2. Fighters that switch models are a different matter."
> 3. Even if a character is unique, if they overlap with other characters and aren't unique as a fighter, they are rejected.
> 4. In order to fit the character into the world of Smash, I need them to allow me some artistic license.
> 5. It might be something like a courtesy to include a character who has the history of being on a Nintendo platform.
> 6. The character must display personality in their game
> 7. It’s important to have something that ONLY the character can do
> 8. Potential development issues, and game balance is also taken into some consideration
> 9. There are some characters that can’t join the battle, even if they meet the qualifications
> 10. The amount of out of series crossover appearences the character has appeared in is sometimes also taken in consideration (Why Ryu was added)
> 11. Is the character the representative character for their respective Source Material
> 12. The character must have something inherently unique about them

He's in

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The assumption that DLC will come with assist trophies or spirits is baseless speculation like everything else right? And the Mii costumes were separate before?

What character wont

SMT originated on the NES, Joker is Nintendo. FF originated from the NES & the first 6 + 4 Spinoffs were all Nintendo exclusives. Cloud was the Rep for the entire franchise

This user's list was
>UUUGH IT NEEDS TO BE ON A NINTENDO SYSTEM AT SOME POINT
>UUUGH IT'S TOO VIOLENT
>UUUGH IT'S TOO IRRELEVANT
Which are things that aren't in Sakurai's list. Hell, one of the things he listed is actually contradicted by one of the rules ("have to have appeared on a Nintendo system" vs "it's only a courtesy and isn't necessary")

Seething patternfag

>The character must display personality in their game
>I need them to allow me some artistic license

What now refusteves? Not even Microsoft allows Steve to show personality in Minecraft media.

I thought you were already in the game! See? How can you mistake this for THE Steve from Minecraft?

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> 1. Characters from a series that has no future are rarely chosen
Banjo is not getting in then

I’m pretty sure Master Chief is the only Microsoft character actually worth considering that fits all the criteria.

Phoenix Wright. I'm not too fussed about anyone else but would absolutely love it if he got in.

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I've seen people post this before but they never add the source.

It was said in Sakurai's interview after Cloud's reveal

Characters like the Villager are bs according to this.

Okay? I would still prefer a link. I know some of these are from pic related.

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The rules are for 3rd Party characters, 1st party is free game.

>3rd party
Reimu
Banjo
Ryu Hayabusa
Doomguy
Chosen Undead
Agumon
Erdrick
Geno

>1st party
Porky
Captain Syrup
Adeleine
Mach Rider
Dixie Kong
Medusa
Lip
Ashley

Waluigi

much more than in smash (dunno how it would work, Sakurai could probably do it though) I just want a new AW game

Oh shit I can't read.

It seems to be a collection of the his rules over the years. I found some here:
sourcegaming.info/2015/09/26/sakurai-on-character-choices/

Oh same, I'd give up any AW Smash character for a new AW game

This honestly all checks out & explains why certain characters haven't been added yet
> 1. Characters from a series that has no future are rarely chosen
Geno, Crono, Banjo, Isaac, Bomberman, Morrigan
> 3. Even if a character is unique, if they overlap with other characters and aren't unique as a fighter, they are rejected.
Doomguy, since he would be a low Budget Samus clone
> 4. In order to fit the character into the world of Smash, I need them to allow me some artistic license.
Sephiroth, Tifa, Terra, Yuna, Tidus, Monster Hunter
> 5. It might be something like a courtesy to include a character who has the history of being on a Nintendo platform.
Raiden, Master Chief
> 6. The character must display personality in their game
Steve, Doomguy, Erdrick or any other Western character that is requested except Crash
> 7. It’s important to have something that ONLY the character can do
Shadow, Doomguy, Erdrick
> 9. There are some characters that can’t join the battle, even if they meet the qualifications
Chun-Li, Rex/Pyra, Tails, Shadow, Knuckles, Alucard
> 8. Potential development issues, and game balance is also taken into some consideration
Heiechi since he was cut from Sm4sh due to his moveset being too complicated
> 12. The character must have something inherently unique about them
Doomguy, Erdrick, Shadow, Steve, Banjo-Kazooie, Lloyd Irving

Multiple Jumps
Neutral-B: Breegull Blaster
Side-B: Banjo Pilot
Up-B: Shock Jump Pad
Down-B: Beak Buster - Bill Drill
Skins: Tooie Alts, Conker Alt, Viva Pinata Alt, N&B Alt

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Either Hippo or Glass Joe, but the latter would literally have to be just a worse Little Mac

"It might be something like a courtesy to include a character who has the history of being on a Nintendo platform" isn't a rule. It's actually the destruction of a rule that the fandom assumed to exist but didn't. Sakurai said this to explain why Cloud was added. Nintendo history is courtesy and nothing more, Smash is about vidya in general.

I doubt the criteria would even apply for Shadow where you have him listed because he’d be an echo at best. And how does Bomberman have no future? Doesn’t he have a game that released fairly recently on the Switch? Who’s to say he won’t get another game sometime down the line?

This is it, there's no roster that would please anyone better

>Wish (Unlikely)
Another FF rep (Tifa or Zidane or something)
Heavy

>Want
Banjo
Crash

>Don't want
Sans
Steve
Goku
Master Chief

I really have no idea who will be added, kinda excited, they'd really have to make some bad choices to annoy me, but I suspect they'll mostly be characters I don't know/care about. joker being one of them

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It explains why he wasn't added as a unique fighter, but also he fit all criteria as a Echo fighter but Sega was probably being cunts which is why he wasn't added yet

>morrigan
never knew i wanted her until now, and now i want her the most. and sol badguy

>Non-vidya characters
>Touhou only has 1 rep even though Undertale, Cave Story and Hollow Knight have more
yes

Krystal

He did, but it wasn't a strong requirement
> Sakurai said he HOPED to include certain important game characters who had appeared on a Nintendo console as a “courtesy” while still maintaining the freedom to alter said characters for the needs of Smash
So basically it's still a requirement but it only applies to the franchise itself, not the actual character. Which explains Joker since Persona was a spin off of SMT which is a Nintendo exclusive franchise except for Nocturne

Well, a 3rd party series not getting a second unique character is a given.

Having trouble spotting Chief, Chief.

Morrigan is Capcom's mascot behind Mega Man, Ryu & Chun Li. Pretty sure they would have included her if they could, but the lack of a future thing due to MvC & Darkstalkers being dead kills her chances. Since she's iconic & fits all other critieria

That's a little better, thank you.

>The character must display personality in their game
From what I can get it is Sakurai being able to picture the moveset in his head, the source did mentioned characters like Pacman, who were originally unfitting in this category. I guess this is Sakurai getting the idea much later, it gives an advantage to characters who already come from fighting games.
>It’s important to have something only that character can do.
>"On the contrary, no matter how suited a character may be to fighting, if I cannot meaningfully distinguish them from other characters, or create fun unique characteristics of the characters, then that’s the end for them"
Interestingly enough he wasn't just talking about movesets with this (Roy, Lucas) but unique as in bringing something unique to the table.
>Potential development issues, and game balance is also taken into some consideration
It would tie to the shapeshifting rule on that other post. Whatever would be either too damn broken or drag development too much.
>Characters are not picked at random. After fully understanding the character’s personality, development advances while taking into consideration how those characters can be fun to play in “Smash”.
>There are some characters that can’t join the battle, even if they meet the qualifications.
Huh
>Distribution among the franchises is also taken into consideration.
Way to contradict yourself there, Sakurai.

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It isn't a requirement. You're using wording that doesn't come from Sakurai. It's courtesy, meaning it's cool if the character did appear on a Nintendo system, but even if he or his series didn't, they can still be included.
This was confirmed by Reggie after Joker's reveal by the way.

Eh I'll take the rabbid

Persona has been on a Nintendo console & has it's own exclusive spin off series on the 3DS. So Joker is still Nintendo

>muh patterns
Fuck off. Your shitty fanrule is have been BTFO'd by official statements. Stop trying to make Smash look worse than it is. Smash IS the biggest crossover in videogame history.

Remove rule 5 as it is just a courtesy. Elaborate in rule 6 that "personality" isn't just characterization but Sakurai envisioning the character's moveset. Rules 7 and 12 are redundant. Make rule 9 the last one as it ties to everything else.

And most importantly, attach sources to the pasta, like and

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> Posting actual facts triggers the Rosterfag this hard
Yikes

>Shut up fag, just because you're right doesn't mean anything
Let me guess you're just pretending to be retarded

Bomberman has a future. Monster Hunters are nothing but artistic license, since they're customizable. Read the quote again: Nintendo history is a "courtesy" not a requirement. Raiden and Chief are not disqualified by that alone. Doomguy shows some personality even if it's not much. Fire Emblem reps may show as much personality as wet cardboard *in the SSB universe* but they probably have an attempt at a personality in their own games. (but I don't remember anyone from Radiant Dawn to be fair)
>any other Western character
Wew lad.

>Actual facts
>When you literally replied off topic garbage

Stop samefagging.
I'm talking about rules, you give me fucking patterns. You're off topic.

> Doomfag
Opinion already invalidated

>Doomguy is totally viable but no other Western character because I said so
Japan straight up dislikes Doom, good luck with that shit user

>This was confirmed by Reggie after Joker's reveal by the way.
What did he said again? I remember he just calling smash a celebration of video games.

Not even the same person you fucking retard
Keep coping

>I'm talking about rules, and you point out something that contradicts my rules
Fixed this for you

>Fils-Aime explained that Sakurai and the team working on Ultimate’s DLC don’t necessarily see characters from franchises not typically associated with Nintendo as a limiting factor when it comes to Smash Bros.
"Mr. Sakurai, he's not only a student of Nintendo franchises, and obviously he's had his hand in a few, but he's a student of video games from a total perspective."
gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/234547-super-smash-bros-ultimate/77280986

Are you falseflagging or something? I wasn't putting up rules, I was talking about those Sakurai put up, saying Nintendo history was NOT one of them.

This, Japan gave Doom a 32/40, which is 4 points lower then Sonic Forces, and is also lower then every Final Fantasy game, Ninja Gaiden 3, Resident Evil 6. Sonic 06 for comparison got a 30, so basically anything below 34-35 is complete garbage in Japan

>Japan straight up dislikes Doom
Seems more like indifference, they have a small doom following there.
youtube.com/watch/pDShIemmYak

Doomguy actually shows a lot of personality; he avoids dumb risks, values his old comrades, he's got a big ego, he's a good sport when it's not about his mortal enemies.

The guy I was replying to said Crash is the only Westerner who shows personality. That petty generalization is all I was referring to. I don't care about Doomguy but the only rule keeping him out is the ESRB rating.

Means nothing, nice cherry picking. Not even Americans give a shit about Doom

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