Thanks anons for recommending this game, picked it up on sale today. it's fantastic

wheres it on sale

I don't understand how people hit anything with the guns. And I've been playin this series since it came out.

I’m interested in this but have never played an ace combat. Do I need to in order to understand this one?

Put dot over target

its hard with a controller

You'll miss out on a few references, but it's not mandatory. The stories in each game are mostly standalone.

Most enemies don't constantly juke, if you just chase them enough they'll straighten out long enough for you to get in gun range and shoot them down.

It's even easier in AC7 because you can make your jet super maneuverable and speed up/slow down on a dime- and there's a part that auto-targets the gun for you if you're in range.

The StrangeReal games have a big confusing timeline but each game kinda can stand on its own to a degree.

Belka is basically NotRussia and is/was always comically evil, that's all you really need to know.

story is only trash for people expecting a continuation of the main story, if you played it objectively you;d know its as good as any other ace combat story in that it really makes you bond with the other units in the game.

plus it has unironically the absolute best gameplay and missions in the series

>if you played it objectively you;d know its as good as any other ace combat story in that it really makes you bond with the other units in the game

>weird robot npcs speak like anime tweens completely devoid of personality or humanity
its ass, like every other game

Gun-only actually makes Mihaly and mission 10's drone easier because they don't spaz around as much as when you try to pump missiles to them. Final mission is a bitch though
Only game where guns feel useless is 0 for me

>has never played any of the games

>belka
>Russia
Yukes are Russians, not belkans

Belka is a mix of Nazi Germans with modern Jews

6 is my favorite and yeah they both still have trash stories.

But at least 6 had a good cast of in-mission characters that could actually help you out. Trigger is surrounded by useless redshirts that constantly die before they even have a chance to develop as characters.

cope

Everyone you get paired up with either dies or is replaced.

Count is the only character that sticks and he is a useless shit.

>The StrangeReal games have a big confusing timeline but each game kinda can stand on its own to a degree.
How is it confusing? The timeline is basically in numerical order except X and 3 are at the end, so:
0, 1, 2, 4, 5, 6, 7, X, 3

Tell me one character trait of Avalanche

My bad I thought he was calling the AC6 story trash even though its clearly the most engaging, yeah the story in 7 was disappointing but for some reason everyone constantly faps over 4,5 and 0 and shits on 6

cringe

Belka always felt like they evoked USSR-era Russia "scary bogeyman" stereotypes mixed with German Nazi stereotypes.

The Yukes always fly slavshit though...

>The Yukes always fly slavshit though...
The first mission in 5 is chasing a Yuke SR-71, the third mission is fending off A-6 and Typhoon
There isn't really any correlation between planes and countries in the series

>no co-op
>in a dog-fighting game
>every pilot has a wing-man
youtube.com/watch?v=PRwud05YMHI

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>still not on sale on steam and on resellers is still 40+ bucks
>at the end of the month they won't give away the 3 kino

end me, i want this game so much but i can't spend money the situation im in right now

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youtu.be/uJlNhT8sHb4
SPREAD YOUR WINGS
FLY WITH ME
FLY WITH ME
IM AN ANGEL
SET ME FREE

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Not surprising, games routinely flop there.

He's always ready to help especially when you hit that allied support button.

Windhover, dragon busters, ghost eye and warlcok are the real niggas though

3 kino skins*

Just pirate it?

When i pirated it, i had the feeling that i wanted to complete it for good and try the multi so i didn't bother to continue. It's one of these games imo.

what skins

>aim bot red box that hits the enemy plane for you
>hurrrr its a great game guys 10/10 gameplay

AC3 sequel when?

None of them have any character except shamrock who's overly emotional

I just beat zero and man what a fun fight that was.
>mfw youtube.com/watch?v=vGjwXI0n5-I starts playing

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Don't reply to the nigger, he's been shitting up AC threads for a while

Hopefully never and this series dies.

since the game is a huge success, i guess soon and we'll get AC3 remake/port as a bonus

Everything that belka names it has a German sounding name
Belka in zero went on an expansionist war like WW2 germany
Belkan natives have german sounding names
The only thing belka never did was a race war

Also every enemy faction usually flies slavshit no matter what game

Every allied squadron leader or ground commander had their own assault record bio

acecombat.fandom.com/wiki/Freddie_Durand

:)

We still need a bridge game for AC3
X takes place after 7 but its a small conflict on the other side of the world
we need AC8 to be set in 2025-2030 and the end of its war shape damn well the world to become the conglomerate driven hell that is AC3's world

Maybe a Yuke(MC side)-Sotoa war? with some Usean corporates pulling the strings ala Grey men? since AC7 is a reminiscent of AC4, AC8 might as well be a reminiscent of AC5

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No fuck that I want 1970s/1980s Ace Combat

traditional planes aren't for everyone, besides they'll probably ruin the setting with some proto-supercrafts anyway

>yuke MC
are we gonna finally get a cannon slavshit main plane?

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Phoenix mained a Su35 and nemo pilots a COFFIN-ed slavshit based on AC3 disc cover

90% of the planes in the game now (apart from the super planes) existed in the 80s, would be nice to see some retroactively designed super planes

70s and 80s are still jet fighter era
Reminder that the F4 is from 1960

>the shitposter's still here
shit I haven't seen you in a week. still, nobody's biting

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$40 on kinguin

guess i still need to learn my history, i guess a game where F14 can be a top tier craft is great, i can RP Razgriz 24/7 if they gave F14 the skin

OK guys hear me out
>stand alone ace combat game with the gameplay of 7
>a pve coop experience
>fuck huge maps with lots of targets
>you earn money to buy new planes which give you access to higher difficulty missions by killing things
>S ranking missions are a must go earn good money
>3 modes: solo, squad and large scale missions for you to try
>each plane has its own parts tree and weapon tree
>boss rush at the end of each mission

He was here yesterday and tried to make another thread after failing to shitpost the one he was in, and then he got BTFO in that one too. It was kinda funny.

Most of that was just Infinity.

Sounds like a good idea for an Infinity 2 as long as there's no faggy grinding and fuel bullshit.

I WANT PICTURES, PICTURES OF THE DOG

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It sounds like they can't really add pve to AC7 as it is, so it'd be pretty cool if they could get something like that together as a side title.

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So basically Infinity 2
Would be a nice model actually, one Infinity-like game every gen to fund the traditional games.

6 didnt have nonsensical run on sentences, esl level translation, and genuine cringe level dialogue. the only thing u can complain about in 6s story is the fly with the angels tagline. the inmission dialogue, bromance between your squad and other operation forces (ground teams) and the overall epic scale of the campaign to recapture gracemeria is a metric shitton better thaj abortion which is 7s story

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Reminder that Cossette couldn't get the pressure suit on over her frills and had to strip to her Yellow Squadron panties to get it on.

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Fighter jets are not like cars user, they are super expensive to develop and build
If a government is gonna expend money on developing one they HAVE to last long
The F4 is still in operation in Japan for example,

But here is a small list of planes in AC7 and the dates they took flight

>F-104
1958
>F-4
1960
>A10
1972
>F-16
1974
>F-14
1970

The most modern fighters in the game iirc are the F22 (1997) and the F35 (2006)

t. filthy belkan scum

Razgriz F-14
Buddy F-15
Forget the last one.

I'm actually so disgusted by the requirements to get all the medals.

> have to S rank 60 missions for Normal, Hard and Ace Difficulty to get 3 medals

> MG only, No damage and 4 hour medals have to be done IN ONE CAMPAIGN PLAYTHROUGH EACH, rather than letting you do them in free missions at your leisure.

> You have to beat campaign AT LEAST 6 FUCKING TIMES to unlock all the skins

Absolutely disgusting, did they think this was a substitute for having real content? Or that this is what "replay value" means? I'm so fucking burnt out and I've only played through twice.

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>The most modern fighters in the game iirc are the F22 (1997) and the F35 (2006)

Su-57

Welcome to the club, buddy

Yellow, you ignoramus

Oh yeah, I forgot about it

God wtf happened in that ending?

SASM faggots

Did you do an entire playthrough on easy difficulty for it? I hate how much work it is for a fucking skin.

???

>snipes you immediately after spawning
what do?

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>start playing AC games at night
>also start drinking when playing it and I'm starting Zero now so it became a "tradition"
Is this how alcoholism starts?

snipes back during a curveball

Fly in erratic patterns and hope to god no one else has one of those pieces of shit

Did that to the 3rd drone in the last mission. Immensely satisfying to pop that jittery fucker

>1st match
>picked an EML build
>1st place
>2nd match
>everyone is using their EML builds now
>2nd-3rd rank
everytime

>turns faster than the F-22 despite having half the maneuverability stat
hon hon hon

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>newest plane
>cockpit looks like it was designed in the hight of the cold war

The thyphoon has a more modern cockpit and its from the 90s

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I want to play Ace Combat. Where do I start, what are the essentials? I only have PC. Are the PS2 emulators good enough?

Normal
I don’t really care about the skin, just did it because I thought it would be fun (and it is except for truck chasing) using the designated mook plane and exclusively dakka

4, 5, 0, 3, X, and 7

at this point you guys should just put a note to play AC4,5 and 0 when you make a thread, also AC4 is shit to emulate

you dont seem to know what a modern cockpit is

i wonder why no one recommended AC2? that game is my entry to AC games

Holy trinity
then X or 7
Play 3 later if you can deal with PS1 shortcomings, but do remember to get a Japanese copy

speaking of plane stats, anybody got a link for the google drive file with the plane stats in ac7?

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Its a fifth gen fighter, it should have something similar to the F35 set up, even the F22 set up is more modern than what the 57 has, which looks like a slightly up dated su-37 cockpit

acecombat.fandom.com/wiki/Ace_Combat_7:_Skies_Unknown/Aircraft

first of all it is more modern than the f22 one and secondly its not an "updated" su-37 cockpit

Seething Russiaboo

I'd recommend 2 remake for the 3DS, plus edition, to be more exact since it lets you turn off the maneuver thing but he's playing on the PC. Same reason I didn't recommend 6
Wish we'd get to see more about 2s Phoenix.

sneeding westerner with superiority syndrome because of generations of propaganda

>tfw most games work well in citra
>tfw AHL+ is not one of those games

thanks but this isn't the one I mean. There was a google sheets file with numeric values for every plane statistic (like stability, acceleration, etc) on the game. I forgot to save it and now I can't find it on my browser history

>shilling the wiki

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It's a shame, 2 was the first one I finished.

is this why AHL videos were scarce on YT?

perhaps that and it being associated with Ass Horizon by the title alone

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What kind of superweapon would you like to see in the next game?
Do you prefer them big and bulky like Stonehenge and Megalith, or plane-like, like the Fenrir and Arsenal Bird?

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MOAR FLYING FORTRESS

>To 100% the game, I need to 100% the ENTIRE game???? Whaaaaaa

Supersonic Ekranoplan

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I want some crazy old Soviet style superweapons. Something like Dead Hand

> MG only, No damage and 4 hour medals have to be done IN ONE CAMPAIGN PLAYTHROUGH EACH
Wat
I did MG only and 4hrs on one playthrough

youtube.com/watch?v=PJ5daOm9uHc
I will never not love the Razgriz theme

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Land battleships might be fun.

You are like a little baby, watch this
>76500 Km challenge
i'm at my 8th playthrough and somehow i only managed to rack up 53K

Reminder that Cossette has literal Razgriz blood in her, considering she survived a missile that blew her up.

I want them to port OLDS from Infinity, A giant unmanned spaceship made by Osea to divert the orbits of incoming asteroids which will be hacked, because it's tradition at this point, by the manufacturer to bring about Ulysses 2.0.
The chaos that ensues will bring the opportunity for corporations to step up and pave the way for megacorporations in AC3.

How about one that almost actually existed
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supersonic_Low_Altitude_Missile

Imagine having to fly at super sonic speeds trying to chase this thing though rough terrain and having to be careful to how close you get to it since its exaust is radioactive as fuck

Just go all out and make an evil doomsday weather controlling machine already.

You do know that can be done in free mission right?
It even counts free flight mode

I've done 6 plus a couple free mission flights to collect Ss and I'm at 60k. Whenever I'm waiting for dialog to finish I'm going full AB

FASTER PRINCESS, FASTER!

She just took the hit in non-critical area

It's no superweapon but i'd like to see a fleet armed with EML, TLS, and PLSL since they're compact enough you can fit them to planes now.

i don't really do free missions unless i really have to, repeating my favorite mission for a thousand times will just make it stale, i prefer doing campaign runs, playing all missions

google isthereanydeal

>No full VR support
Honestly I think that's the next step in terms of flight sim games, especially Ace Combat. That shit is ripe for the taking to elevate it to some serious next level shit.
>Intense dogfight missions where you can only pilot dual manned aircraft such as an F/A-18, in VR, with a co-op buddy using VR who has to constantly scan around to keep radar locks and inform you of incoming missiles
>A-10 only missions where you have to fly in low and slow, scanning the terrain for marked targets by allies via smoke/lasnav/IR, and then BRRRRT BRRRRRT some enemy niggas straight to hell
>Co-Op missions where you pilot a high altitude bomber and everyone else either mans a stationed gun on the bomber or acts as your escort

that's pretty over-developed, you'll probably get less mission than AC6 since they blew the budget on gameplay

The multi is utter shit. It's just deathmatch with extremely overpowered missile upgrades that basically turn the standard missiles into QAAMs so you if you actually try to do anything fun instead of flying around in the giant dogfighting sphere, you're severely gimping yourself.

Oh, and if you're on PC, look forward to it being peer2peer with no anticheat whatsoever. That's not a joke, there's literally zero anti-cheat. Players can use cheat engine and make themselves invincible while shooting missiles as fast as they can spam the button.

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>Forcing you to S-rank EVERY mission of every difficulty

Padding of the highest order. S-ranking all missions on the highest difficulty should automatically unlock the rewards for lower difficulties.

Plenty of games do this.

That's asking way too much. The VR campaign they managed to put together is only 3 missions long and it's basically the standard gameplay but with VR cockpit camera view. I don't understand why they couldn't do that with the whole game, and I don't understand why it's going to take them an entire fucking year to port those 3 missions over to PC VR.

Congrats I guess. Did you do it on easy?

>I don't understand why it's going to take them an entire fucking year to port those 3 missions over to PC VR.

Because Sony paid for it.

>Oh, and if you're on PC, look forward to it being peer2peer with no anticheat whatsoever. That's not a joke, there's literally zero anti-cheat. Players can use cheat engine and make themselves invincible while shooting missiles as fast as they can spam the button.
Are you kidding me? Goddammit, I thought I was done with this horseshit when I quit GTA online.
I was actually looking forward to the multiplayer in AC7, too.

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Will they bring the PSVR mini campaign to the other platforms?

i guess us Consolecucks won this one

normal, but you don't need to do a playthrough for each medal is what I'm saying, someone else did all 3 medals at once

In fairness, I only saw it once out of 20-30 matches. But even if there weren't any cheaters, the lack of game modes is just plain disappointing. It's just FFA and TDM. It's practically the bare minimum they could've put into it. I wish they could've just copypasted Assault Horizon's or 6's.

You think this is bad? Remember that AC 5 made you S rank every mission on ALL 5 difficulties just to get 2 or 3 sentences of text that a player might even skip by.

Russia is still playing catch up since the fall of the soviet union. Their military's redeeming quality is that their missiles are more advanced than the US.

>mg only dive bombing targets
>while taking no damage
>and only 4 hours

Yeah sure bro.

>actually complaining about S ranking the trilogy
Zero did the same and you have clear all difficulties in all ace types, yet i didn't complain about it, besides the trilogy is mostly score based rather than following 7 Score + time

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From what it looks like most of the VR dev time was tuning it
making a map and some objectives is easy, the hard part I'd believe it would be developing flight patterns for the enemy planes so that you can chase them and not puke your stomach out in the process
they clearly did not do that with the whole game as it would take way too much time to redo every flight pattern for every single enemy plane in game

The reason it will take a year to be ported to PC is because sony founded part of the VR development, thus they own exclusivity rights for a year
The sad part is that it might never get ported to PC, Tekken 7's VR component never got ported to PC and its much simpler than AC7's
RE7 also had its VR mode exclusive for an year and it also never got ported to PC, mostly because Capcom doesn't care

>fend off attack during that mission where they try to disrm the belkan bomb
>aces come in
>Hit a cliff
>have to do the whole mission again
Holy shit I'm so fucking mad

it's AC5 faceless soldier where the ace wouldn't come down to ya, blast him with QAAMs

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No damage is just a pain in the ass and especially on the long score attack missions.

I want a giant missile/laser base that transforms into a flying fortress of death.

>flight patterns for the enemy planes so that you can chase them and not puke your stomach out in the process
I've played a bunch of cockpit games, like EVE Valkyrie, Elite Dangerous, and War Thunder, and keeping an eye on the enemy was never hard. It's easier to deal with than trying to use the right stick or hold the Y/Triangle button to look at something since you actually have a feeling of where your craft is pointing.

The flight pattern of enemies in Elite Dangerous is infinitely harder to follow than practically anything in Ace Combat. Ace Combat 7 enemies especially fly noticeably slower than in previous games so it'd be the prime candidate of the series to tack VR straight onto the campaign.

Handful of Hope requires actually taking the longer path because it allows the enemy pilots longer to spawn so you can hit the target score, and if you take too long you can still get stuck with an A.

Something like the Lusankya?

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you can take the shortest path if you want, i took the shortest path i can find and still get the S, it's just that sometimes the fighters are using bullshit speed to close in Harling and the Migs are annoying tanks

Small team, new engine with no previous experience, probably low budget and development hell are probably the reason why they weren't able to.

I wasn't complaining about S ranking it, I was complaining about the lame reward you get for it, 5 didn't even have medals.

I still needed two more planes to down, but they never spawn close enough to actually down and they can retreat faster than the fucking F-22 or the Berkut.

I don't work at Namco user, that is just me trying to understand why we got what we got and drawing from some dev talk/interviews where they mentioned the VR
I agree that this game should have been all in VR considering they started demoing the VR component way before the normal mode at E3
Maybe the team just couldn't make every mission fun in VR, or the PS4 couldn't pull some of the set pieces they had in mind for the campaign in VR (there are lots of points where the framerate drops in the normal mode and the VR mode has a lot less happening at each moment than the normal game)

neither did Zero, well, it did gave us a neat Galm hangar

>5 didn't have medals
Are you fucking retarded? 5 has medals, they're just not nearly as numerous as 7's medals and not many of them are mission oriented.

if you're still having a hard time, just TLS your way out

>HURR r u retarded because you don't want to grind out S ranking shitty missions on shitty modes like easy

Go fuck yourself with a Burkut

Zero had medals

i was taking about the all S medals, it only had Hard-Ace medals

i mean normal-ace medals

it is
cobraing an incoming missile never gets old

You claimed 5 didn't have medals Jesus, get help.

yes, you can actually do it, it'll take a ton of replaying but it's possible

There's a few things that wouldn't go over well in VR, like high G maneuvers Mihaly and the drones pull off, or post stall maneuvers. Not to mention the grafix overhead from running in 1080x2400 at 90 fps and everything needs to be rendered twice from slightly different angles.

Which is the fastest plane of the game, besides the slav brick with a fat ass? the iggle?

>shortest range weapon in the game
>tons of ground attack missions where AA and naval ships will just spray you with Machine guns when you dive in towards them

>just don't get hit lol

Yeah sound like cancer.

You can do high G in VR already
never tried post stall though, but the two planes in it can do it

>short
>literally the same range as normal MSL

you can buff them to 2000m you mong

Post your favorite skins

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>no one dares to attack Jester's control tower!

>gets blown up on the ground

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I actually only recently noticed that he doesn't even get to the runway to take off. the mad man gets to take off speed on the back taxi road

As expected of a Top Gun instructor

>aces in this game have no flavor text

Lame.

In AC6 you get to shootdown a Qt pilot waifu, demoralize the enemy and then later kill her father as he tries to flee from his doomsday weapon in the final battle.

>The daughter of Eastern Faction leader Gustav Dvornik, she was a prominent ace pilot of the group. Her looks and relation with her father led her to become the "poster girl" of the forces opposing the Lyes United Front, boosting the morale of her allies. Although her records did not measure up to those of other ace pilots, this did not affect her reputation.

>In 2015, Dvornik participated in the Emmeria-Estovakia War, where she was revered by fellow pilots as the "Goddess of Victory". However, as the Emmerian forces pushed back towards east Anea, Gustav became increasingly worried about her, continuously trying to transfer her out of the battlefield. However, she stubbornly refused to follow her father's orders and remained active on the front lines.

>During the standoff in Silvat Town, she was part of the force defending the Estovakian front base, and moved to engage the Emmerians as the siege was finally broken. She was found and killed by the Garuda Team, along with a detachment of pilots sent to intercept them.

Gallery

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>The aircraft tree is overly complex
Ex-fucken-cuse me bitch?

>AI do nothing except flying around in circles
what the fuck does he expect it to do? Eject the pilot and have them slap shit out of the sky?!

>Almost like they put no effort into it all
I could say the same for him, holy fuck.

>giving yourself (You)s
sasuga Anti7fag, literally rent free inside your head

The lack of flavour text for aces is honestly one of my biggest disappointments in 7. I loved reading them in 0.

this, i wouldn't have bothered with assault records in 7 if not for its skins, nobody wants to see their squad numbers, we need moar lore and a plot related side ace like AC6

You clearly haven't attempted it, because those missions are easy with guns only, your gun range is twice that of AA guns, and missions like fleet destruction have so many easy crutches to them like the cores

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there's no point trying to reason with some that only knows circle button user, i bet he doesn't even know that your guns can kill your targets before your missiles even managed to lock on

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>>giving yourself (You)s
?
>sasuga Anti7fag,
I'm not him. I'm just saying the review that posted is the worst shitpost I've ever seen.

saved

then you should know better than giving him (You)s, it's been a whole day now, don't call him here

A lot of the points he made can be whisked away with a simple
>git gud

>he thinks the su-57 isn't a complete failure
Have you read about it? They tried running ground missions with it and it performed like shit. Meanwhile the F-22 has been battle ready for years and has many successful missions under its belt.

>Ace Combat 8 has Megafloat, except it can ACTUALLY float.

Megafloat boss fight when?

>then you should know better than giving him (You)s
My bad.

>taking down ADFX-10 gun only
>mission 12 gun only
>mission 19 and 20 gun only
Those 4 alone sound like enough hell to never even attempt it.

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>taking down ADFX-10 gun only
>mission 19 and 20 gun only
you'd be surprised how much plausible guns are than standard msl here

>the auto gun targeting part only works for the main gun and not the gunpods
LAME

Slap some movement parts into the plane and you'll see how much easier it will be, in fact, guns are better against the drones since missiles are too slow to hit them reliably

ADFX-10 with gunpods was my fastest kill, took less than a minute because it tried to joust me and I just keep pressing circle.

did you really complain about using guns on arsenal? tell you what, the medal on 19 requires you to use missile only on arsenal, you'll praise your vulcans once you've cleared that

that's why it's good, you chase the pane with your slightly delayed main gun while the pods shot them down based on your where your nose points, attacking 2 place at the same time rather than focusing at one, a single gun is already lethal enough and focusing 3 guns won't help anything

Yeah, i read them all in Zero, its amazing how a little text can make you feel you are fighting an ace instead of just a slightly buffed AI, i still remember that one ace in Zero that was flying an XB-70 in the first mission, the motherfucker actually evaded 4 missiles on that thing somehow, makes you appreciate a bit more those stories

>that lack of checkpoint in 5
FUUUUUUCK

that's something you nuggets have to keep in check when playing anything pre-AC6

good thing emulators come with savestates :^)
if you're playing on one :^)

Not arsonal, the dogfighting section before it.

it's a drag to wait for missile to charge since it's longer than the trilogy, also there's a fuckload of enemy in drones just tailing the leader plane, thank god the are guns to take them all in one swoop

>have to destroy structures on the surface of the fortress to force maintenance tunnels to open across the various segments, allowing you to fly in and destroy the core to break it section by section like the supply platforms in Fleet Destruction

I THINK OSEA SUCKS

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i think it's time for PA to make a UFO oriented superweapon