Frostbite 2019

what is the context behind this lmao

cute panties

GIVE PREDICTIONS NOW

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>Billy Mays dying.webm

What do those perky tits smell like

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>Frostbite 2019 - Smash Ultimate Top 8

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MVD is based

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I dont even play smash, in fact I have never played smash before
So I can't give my opinion on the subject

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POST PALUTENA GOD DAMMIT

MKLEo beats Myran

Tweek beats Cosmos

Shuton beat Nairo

MVD beats Light

MkLeo will beat Myran easily because he melts Olimars. Tweek will destroy Leo though, twice if Leo comes back from losers.

More

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Fuck MVD. I like Snake, but he's such a fucking faggot.

Good, now that Pichu, Peach, Wolf aren't in Top 8, shitters can ease up on calling them broken and crying for nerfs. Expect a lot Snakes onlune though.

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Shuton's olimar destroyed him last night though

Post Zero Suit!

Why?

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I want Leo to win so more people use Ike which will lead to him getting nerfed. Nair spam is boring to watch.

FUCK
I SWEAR TO GOD I'M NOT GAY

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>he doesn't know Fox rapes Snake's asshole
>he thinks Snake is good and MVD doesn't get lucky 90% of the time (he lost to a random Incineroar at a LOCAL)
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

I hope Light wins but fuck Fox is so goddamn fragile. Also lasers tend to miss nades which makes that a lot less useful vs them (it makes them blow up if you didn't know).

MkLeo > Myran
Tweek > Cosmos
Nairo> Shuton (if he goes Lucina)
Light < MVD

lmao

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Palutena is really good but I don't think she's explosive enough to be the best. Olimar seems like the best, being able to zone while hitting really hard.

Tweek will WIN

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Based

did they...

MVD has literally been playing snake since the day you were born.

I don't know how dumb japs play. MkLeo historically mutilates Dabuz and Myran.

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he lost to the best incineroar and one of the biggest locals in the nation, also snake is top 10

there's a lot of top players who seem feminine and gay, but they're actually straight
is this what watching anime and playing Nintendo games does to young men?

>tk and ee
BASED

Imagine being so uninformed to not know that Fox shits bloody fury all over Snake.

Reply to me...

Top players literally always sandbag at locals

>Tweek, MKLeo, MVD, Nairo, etc. etc. all in the top 8
>Not consistent

Dude what.

Try top 20.

Anyone have the link to that stickerbush symphony remix song that they played i can't find the version they played it was sdo good

Because it's a positive trade for Snake for three reasons:
>Snake is a heavier character with a high recovery that's difficult to punish. Most characters are lighter than Snake, especially at a competitive level, therefore Snake comes out on top in every grenade trade.
>Snake's best kill option is a grab kill confirm at 160% which works on every character in the game, his grab is like frame 7 or something, frame 11 running. Every grenade trade bring his opponent closer to that magic % where he fishes for a free kill.
>Snake's entire gameplan is completely focused on zoning and denying the opponent's approaches. A grenade trade offers to the opportunity to reset the neutral, specifically reseting it in Snake's favor and forcing the opponent to take MORE DAMAGE getting in AGAIN.
Combine these three things and it should be clear just HOW good grenade is as an option in all situations, but also as a combo breaker. It's insane even before you consider MU stuff like multi-hits being broken by it.

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>be excited to see jap smash
>they all play gimmicky bullshit that folds once people learn about it

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To be fair Magister is probably the best Incineroar player. Not that there's much competition in that. He draws nice hentai though.

let Coney take a break, his voice is fucking shot

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soundcloud.com/duckduckpony/brambles-dkc-2-ssb-brawl

>That girl yelling bloody murder in the back.
lmao. She's literally dying and no one is taking notice.

>TK and EE without Coney

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just got here any eu in top 8?

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Don't think there were even any EU of note at the tournament

Does anyone have a gif of Coney doing the Lowtiergod pose?

>random Incineroar

Snake aint even top 15 in this game so i dont know why youre bitching about Snake having a really good tool when shit like your pic related exists.

post more captain zack
I need pictures for reasons

these 2 guys look disgusting

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nah mr r had to forfeit for medical reasons

why the fuck do they have 2 tvs for a game where both characters are on the same screen with the same perspective at all times?

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I don't think any of the EU usuals went

The japanese on TK's shirt is wrong lol

>nigger commentators
Every time

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is Light black?

>disgusting
I want MVD to be my slut cow

>has to come to Yea Forums to spam images after being rejected on /ssbg/
You truly are a mentally ill moron.

Coney is the only good wh*te commentator

the monitor manufacturers are sponsors, and this way they can be directly in front of the screen instead of off to the side

u keep posting this picture

>I'm a fucking retard: the post

black people have always been better at commentating Smash than white people
coney is like the only exception (he's equal to D1/EE/TK, not better) but he's MCing this tournament, so

light from germany and mr r showed up

>haha I said nigger xD

Never been there actually

eat my smegma H*lios, you discord tranny tier fuck

argentina is white

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who /making food or fapping when olimar's on/ here

hbox started looking at the opponent's controller to read DI in melee

d1's trash

Imagine thinking Snake can't control stage against fox.

Did he just pull out a grenade while he was getting hit with Fox dair?

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Mr. R DQ'd because he had butt cysts.

Shits bloody fury so much that MVD is up on Light. Maybe if Fox was heavier or Snake lighter. It balances the rushdown and lasers that Fox gets.

Wrong. Literally the only acceptable ones are EE, TK, and D1. TK used to be shit, too, but got better over time.

The rest are trash.

I would do lewd things to those soles!

so both players can sit in the middle of the screen instead of off to the sides obscuring/ interfering with their view.

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>Equal to EE TK
You should be gassed

low energy
DEEEESTRUCTIOOOON
is iconic

It's true, fag.

Who?

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>Those lips
>White
Nop.

this grenade pressure is fucking insane

nice

it fucking is just look at them all going off one after another

Snake is kinda bullshit.

mommy

>snake isnt even a good character
>fox rapes snake
>hurr durr durr
>meanwhile mvd and light are going even with mvd in the lead most of the match

.

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Based hchad doing whatever it takes to win

>leffen.jrpg

Pally gets me unreasonably hard

Why is light rolling up his short sleeve shirt if he has no muscle?

>MVD is the most based Snake mai-

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Fuck Snake

It's what men do around men. Your yuri subtext anime are nothing compared to real life men hanging around each other.

>zero calls ultimate inconsistent
>yet all of Smash.gg’s predicted results in last round of losers were correct
really makes you think

Based light destroying the cancer

OOF

if grand finals isnt tweek vs mkleo you might as well cancel summit and bury this game

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The top 8 are all top Smash Ult/4 players. Zero is just butthurt he's washed up now.

get this lardy curly haired chink outta here

^this
tr4.5h is so fucking gay and boring. Where my melee bros at?

Is predicatability better than inconsistency to ZeRo?

Maybe he's just bad

Light (sin mangas)

>listening to Zero in current day 2019
ZeRo? More like zero results lmao.

IT'S INCONSISTENT BECAUSE I DON'T WIN

Must be really fun dancing around trade explosions all game.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

PEOPLE
>ACTUALLY
THOUGHT MVD WOULD WIN

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>Oof
Kill yourself

Their feet are so tiny!

t.Ryuga

FUCKING NICE DOUBLE KILL

do any characters have a good matchup against the FE swordsmen?
talking about Roy, Marth, Lucina and Chrome specifically

>THAT FUCKING REFLECT ON THE UP SMASH

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>that reflected upSmash

Light needs a sleeveless shirt

oh look, meleefags trying to start shit again.

>That snake kill
Anime as fuck

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Remember when Tweek bombed Genesis.

>Snake is the absolute worst character in the game
lol Leffen

Please smother me

Huh? Most would've tipped Light in this matchup.

I'm guessing you're that buttangry Ike main who cried like a bitch on twitter?

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH HAAAAAA

I hope MVD wins this. Hes never won a major

nice pits

I'm sad Tea didn't make it

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THAT FUCKING DOUBLE KILL

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heh

P-please keep going

is it tho? is it really?

As a competitor predictability is always better.

post discord

holy fuck

MVD got the download, it's ogre

Why do you fags hate Snake? The setups for C4 and stage control is fantastic to watch

t. basedtimate onions boi

Olamar, pac-man, pichu, wolf, fox.

>60k views already
holy shit

I want to bury my head into her pit and die.

god i love palutena
and pneuma cosplaying as palutena

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This set is actually god tier

Snake is hella fun to watch for a zoner. I like to watch the opponent try to survive a barrage of explosions.

>ANOTHER REFLECTED UP SMASH

would be 120k if it was melee.

>get a successful hit on Snake
>blow up every time

Would be 300k if it was fortnite

Don't have one

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>comments that haven't aged well

Petite Palutena

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RIP

?

Wew.

jesus christ

Holy shit that was so close

What a fucking double cocktease

OH NONONONO

The absolute state

god damn what a match

>the end game zoom in twice

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that shit was absurd lol

holy shit

what a set

holy shit

Good Games

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thank fuck. I would have fucking turned this shit off if that turbo lard snake won

Can't wait to see him get washed at Ultimate Summit

That was a great match holy shit.

Ryuga seething.

>>comments that haven't aged well

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>that last stock
Jesus
Those kill zoom ins are heart stoppers

lmao stay deluded. specially not for a tournament like this

fuck that was such a good match

Wew, best girl.

>people call snake cancer
>snake sets are hype as fuck

???

People here only like unga bunga or mash button really fast.

the "kill cam" is cancer and the definition of fake hype

That comment aged pretty well.

THERE

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>dead even, 1 stock
>2 false 'you lost' zoom ins
This was great

OH NO NO NO NO

Holy shit. Dat set tho..

Light's defensive adjustment through most of that first stock won it for him

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It genuinely irks me how inaccurate the kill zoom ins are

Fucking nice

>had that uair been spaced slightly to the side the nade would have saved him and fox would have died

>ロ
>ー
>ズ

W-would you make one? I wanna worship a goddess through this whole tourney

If you want this to catch on call it 'Artificial Hype' you'll get more (You)s

post actually good palutena shit now

H-hey

Snake is cancer to fight but hype to watch and appreciate.

Snake normally isn't this hype, Fox is so based he makes any matchup look cool. Except Olimar, fuck Olimar.

He's fun to watch if you aren't in the math, but cancerous to play against.

I usually don't give a shit about smash and just loaded up the stream for shits, but that was a legit set. Guess I'll stick around for the rest of top 8.

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Is fox very dominant in Ultimate? i still find him very obnoxious to watch

That was a great set but I'm glad Snake is out of top 8, so fucking tired of clink clink clink clink clink sets

FOX BEATS SNAKE

LIGHT DIDN'T EVEN PLAY IT CORRECTLY AT ALL LMFAO

FUCK MVD - absolutely BTFO

I mean, it doesnt really factor in optimal DI

>goes to game five and has a fake finish
>SETOFTHEYEAR

i thought fox rapes snake bros, why was mvd one hit away from winning?

It’s kids who can’t play him or beat him so they trash him. I hate zoners but I love watching snake sets. The setups are crazy

lmao not even close. melee doesn't even get over 50k views in anything that isn't genesis, summit or evo

match was hype because fox is fast as fuck. not because that project spam. chist

I don't know I kind of like it. It keeps you on your toes. Is this the last hit?

>implying the zoom ins that don’t kill aren’t hype as fuck

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Enlighten us. How is it played, user?

>Have to go back to work
God damn it
I hope Shuton wins

fantastic

no

>sets women will never understand

this is better than genesis

>SHOE TOE
HE KEEPS FUCKING DOING IT
IT'S THE 3RD TIME AND NO ONE HAS CORRECTED HIM

>Have to go back to work
lol bitch

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>long vowel marker isn't vertical

damn coney drink some tea

Jesus christ he walked up on stage with his hoody up looking like a turbo artist.
Is he always like that?

you're already on your toes just by watching the goddamn match. All it adds is an obnoxious slowdown and a cheap attempt at "epic" moments

It helps its not 1am

Does anyone else hate how weak the sounds of impact are in Ultimate? Even the killzooms just sound like anime wind blowing, instead of a powerful attack. Compare the sfx from Melee in which everything sounds like a loud powerful impact to Ultimate.

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Why does Nairo looks so sad.

>meanwhile the crowd chant audios that are actually hype haven't improved since Melee yet

What the fuck were they thinking

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Post Palus to give Nairo energy

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Yeah that's what I was pointing out

>shuton's pre-set skit is spamming the c stick

based

>omg palutena vs olimar!!!

dont give (You)s to know it all retards that go 0-2 at their locals

Well first of all you don't stand there and wait for grenades to explode on you which happened several times - even while MVD was dying.
Next is you space so they don't kill you too.
Third is you don't let Snake recover for free.

And that's the basics. It's fucking easy.

>Olimar vs Palu

Time to watch something else I guess

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not hype

I mean, conceptually it’s the game calculating that the hit “should” result in a kill. So really if the player survives with good DI, they are essentially beating the game out. Which is pretty hype

>these matches
seriously? even competitive brawl was faster than this shit

She gives my dick energy

You could have picked any other smash game and I'd agree with you, but everything in Melee sounds weak as hell with it's weird reverb and compression.

Fox has basically nothing to break cypher coming low, user. You can dsmash at ledge but MVD was airdodging up for that reason. It's stupid but that's how it goes.

lol

Who is, right now, the best player in the ENTIRE world?

I wish I could be a NEET
Sadly I was born with purpose

>mfw watching at work on the 60 inch
bing bing wahoo, mama mia, so comfy.

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>implying Brawl didnt have the best chants

I dont know why Smash 4 and Ultimate decided to make them sound like it was underwater

what the hell is this

>first top 8 in G6 was Light vs ESAM in the hypest set of the right
>Momentum immediately killed by Olimar shit

>first top 8 tonight is Light vs MVD in the hypest set of the night
>Momentum immediately killed by Olimar shit

nigger did you even watch that fox match
olimar is the one that drags out matches the worst but every smash game has that, don't make me bring up melee puff

We need the sound effect for being hit in Smash 64 back again.

No. Sorry user

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me

M-more ZSS

>seriously? even competitive brawl was faster than this shit

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Nairo's edgeguards are so off what the fuck.

based paluchad btfoing discord trannies

sick

>what is drop down bair
>or nair
When Snake commits it's so obvious that you can commit too

Even Olimar matches are still faster than most Brawl matches

Post faster

Let's here all those sick moves Fox has to edgeguard snake without potentially risking putting himself in his absolute worst position.

its from leffen's graduation pictures

>that face

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Nair doesn't pop it, especially not staled. Baie would require parallel and to space he is high enough to airdodge up. It's super fucking risky for Fox.

I guess you'll just have to tease me in thread. Not that I mind~

>download complete

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>Snake's Ultimate chant compared to Brawl's
it's a fucking travesty
I want them to make the cheers like Brawl's again; it'd work up the tournament crowd so well

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I guess thats where you and I differ.
yea ultimates attacks sound a little weak and I don't like how the new sound of samus' charge shot.

Please keep going

Drop down bair is risky because you're forced to recover if snake chooses to cancel cypher and airdodge to the ledge. And nair isn't breaking cypher or snakes armor.

just because the game looks faster doesn't mean it actually is retards

>japan

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Who the fuck keeps screaming like a witch?

>everything in Melee sounds weak
What? Compare the sound of dairing someone in Ultimate compared to Melee.
youtube.com/watch?v=jqahcqUASjI

youtu.be/k3GMlpc2ZZQ?t=72
(Probably not the best Melee example because faggots are screaming over it and sound are turned down.)
But compare doing a jab in Melee to Ultimate. Do Captain Falcon's bair and see the difference. Dairs sound like 5 tons dropping on someone in Melee, in Ultimate it just sounds like anime wind.

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spankety

holy shit hes been backthrown like 10 times

Chants get shittier with every iteration of the game. Melee was last time they had soul.

JAPAN

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>

>I want matches to be over as soon as possible or the game is shit

Yes, it does.

>pa lew TEEN ah

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hahahahahaha I fucking know, right
just those WOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAGHGHGHGHGHH's

>”two nukes weren’t enough, Shuton!”

Holy shit I can’t believe EE said that

It's faster than Brawl regardless.

He had a rough time against ShoyoJames for some reason
Looks like he still hasn't recovered

YEETED OUT OF EXISTANCE

Bro stop i wanna watch the tournament not beat my dick

go roleplay in /trash/

Don't even try, meteor smashes in Smash 4 and Ultimate sound way more satisfying with the high-pitched crash instead of Melee's low thud.

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Reverse 3-0 incoming.

>implying smash 64 didn't have the best hit sounds

Did anyone watch the item tournament on Friday? There was some pretty funny stuff there.

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Melee's sounds like a compressed fart.

The screen shake is pretty cool though

>pale tuna

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>tfw no webms with sound for every board
still sucks

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I'm the metroid

>2 games in a row where nairo goes down 3-2 then goes up 1-2

i'm kinda fucking mad

Alright later then

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Yea Forums seemed to have a nice time watching it. Guess you missed out

kill yourself

Melee (and in turn Brawl) went for more realistic approach, everything sounds like the same THUMP but tuned differently.
4 and Ultimate make collisions more cartoony with the sound design, makes more sense in the grand scheme of things.
However, nothing comapres to 64 sound design of hitting people at the Bowling Alley.

yes, it was fucking great

Not him, k-keep going

Source?

Spikes/Meteors don't even have a sound effect in Melee, it's just the same sound as hitting the non-meteor hitbox of the same move. Adding a distinct sound which reminds you of a Super Effective hit in Pokemon was a great idea.

Ultimate balance is already shaping up to be total shit, worse than 4.

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No wait keep going

nah don't listen to that queer, keep goin.

no it isn't

How does EE always come up with the best joke in seconds?

@452266085
Don't go for it

Yea that EASY MONNNAAAAAY did sound pretty good

>Olimar and FE characters: The Game
kbro

Yikes: The post
Imagine being this incorrect on the internet

nah

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How?

Was Zero right? Game is too random>?

why is nairo always the one to root against

the same way all people wearing earpieces do

If you actually believe this you're a moron.
Not every character has a specialist, and not every character would be popular. Not only that, but this game has 3X as many top tiers than any smash game other than 64.

>>

It's literally objectively more balanced.

>Olimar won
You were saying? ;:^)

...

Oh fuck, it's now tied.

why the fuck is olimar so STRONG

We have like 12 different characters you have a chance of seeing in Top 8

please stop Olimar.

I remember during the demo all the "pros" were saying Fox was shit

Waifufags about to get BTFO!

It kind of is
74 chars and the only viable ones are:
Wolf, Wario, Lucina, Peach, Ike
(Viable meaning able to win majors)

No I was there

why is m2k so silly

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that statement does not reflect reality.

He's wrong. Even Leffen knows it.

imagine being a twitterfag on Yea Forums

>this set is still going on

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Nairo choke incoming.

Don't respond to obviously inflammatory posts. You are the reason those posts continue to proliferate. Exert your willpower for once and don't respond to them or this post.

the fuck schizo shit are you spewing son

>I don't like the character that means the balance is shit

kys

That's 9 characters, my man. And you're also forgetting Fox, Wolf, Palutena, Pichu, and Inkling.

Then you would know that people watched it.

fuck sakurai

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If you wanted some @'s and (You)'s just ask.

Isn't 64 just the yoshi/kirby/pika show?

you are weak

Cool to see that Mango went to Frostbite: twitter.com/elonirak/status/1099831056079953923

>Others all lose to the top tier characters
lmao nice "balance"

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Can I have (You)'s

>shuton still hasn't lost
i'm surprised he ran it back

God I hope Nairo loses just to mine the salt from his paypigs

Because people can cause upsets and win from 2-0 down?

I'll (You) you, if you (You) me.

I honestly think Palu is a more anti-fun character to play against than Olimar

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The thread was barely alive though, I know because I kept having to bump it

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NAIRO BTFO

BASED NIPPON

SHUTON WILL SAVE US FROM MKLEO

>Palutena
OH NO NO NO NO!

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absolutely destoyed.

>Olimar 3 stocks another win
"balanced"

based

GOOKED

get fucked nairo
fun wins

DOWNLOAD
COMPLETE

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FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

This post has aged well.

ok

youtube.com/watch?v=3Sa8LV48n0k

There literally haven't been enough majors to tell.

Didn't Snake win something

Nairo is the Axe of Smash 4/Ultimate. Always chokes so fucking hard.

Is Nairo the biggest choke-artist in the game?

I honestly want Palu to rape my face with her cunt

This shuton guy, is he prominent in the jap scene?

nice

*blocks MKLeos path*

that comparison is cursed

Holy Shit

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Nairo has been choking sets since halfway through Smash 4. I made that post and I don't even want to brag about it, it's too obvious and easy to see coming.

Mommy is disappointed Nairo

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Because Alpharad is a faggot

>japs
>fun

I want her to smite me off the face of the earth

More like the Pika show. Pikachu is probably more dominant in 64 than Bayonetta was in Smash 4.

so what's olimar's weakness supposed to be? Seems like he can do anything in the right hands

*chokes your path*

Naifus BTFO

please god just let me have a Palutena mommy gf

Nairo starting choking after his first loss. There were flashes of brilliance but it was clear he was shaken and couldn't go 100% the entire final two matches.

more than NA's top players for sure
not that it would be hard

>Olimar
>fun

Needs to pull pikmin

I'm don't like Nairo, but he did a great job in this tournament. And he's not a huge coward like Zero.

The moment Nairo goes up 2-0 and loses game 3, it's inevitable that he will lose the set.

>Ike vs. Olimar
Reply to me when it's over.

dude looks dirty and weird but i like goats so ill give him a pass

Nairo chokes like a bitch when he gets to the top eight. The second he lost a match, it was over.

>still 2 olimars in the tournament
kill me

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Mommy no!

Olichads stay winning.

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>Axe
you mean S2J

yeah but it seems like he pulls them out extremely fast to the point where it doesn't matter

Inkling, Pikachu, Pichu, Fox, Palutena, Olimar, Chrom, Roy, Snake, Yoshi

Probably many more depending on if good players pick up solid characters.

You're full of it.

>olimar
>fun
I don't think so buddy

according to Myran, he has no bad matchups

Light, vulnerable recovery.

Is there a reason he's not in this tournament?

>Ike and Olimar
I thought Yea Forums said this game was balanced

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Where'd the ZSS go...

Myran looks like a glass of lukewarm milk

see

Is this the ugliest matchup yet?

FUCKING CONEY

based FUCKING coney with the LTG pose

yeah, he doesnt want to get exposed further

Why did he do LTG's iconic pose

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ike is boring and olimar is a little fun
it's opposite day in smash land

It's fucking MKLeo.

Olimar is so gay that I'm now cheering for MKLeo, just to see one less Olimar. That's how gay Olimar is.

Was that ltg intro

Nairo ZSS ain't all that great in Ultimate.

He couldn't get up his chair

BUTTER GOBBLING

He only says that because he isn't guaranteed to win anymore.

Coney is based.

Shuton shows that you can play him fun. Dabuz has soured the general public's opinion on Olimar because of his incredibly boring, safe playstyle.

GOES TO SUBWAY BUT GETS EVERYTHING ON IT

that is one huge basement dwelling.

Name 1 fun character.

Reminder that MkLeo would not be a top 5 player if Ike's nair wasn't overpowered and so easy to link into combos.

Whaddup smash, back at you with another nair

this is M....

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Diddy isn't a free win anymore so he claims the game sucks and is currently dickriding melee despite not playing it anymore.

Ike is not overpowered. Ultimate is balanced. Fuck off troll.

Nairo just play Ganon

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He plays exactly the same as Shuton.

Ike is the new Diddy?

K....

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Marss lost sadly.

Unironically this. It's MKLeo that's making Ike viable. Ike in the hand's of anyone else is high mid-tier at best.

11

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I don't play fighting games but I'm super into ultimate.
How do I go about "watching tournaments"? Are they on the youtubes?

They play completely different, what are you talking about?

Falcon
Dedede
Mewtwo
Ganon
Shulk

>what's olimar's weakness supposed to be?

The B button not working.

Based and Ikepilled

kek

>DDD
>fun

Holy shit did Locus change his name and main? The guy looks miserable now.

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Does anyone actually like MKleo?

Dude looks like a cunt.

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oh hey you're back. make sure to keep spamming this

>another olimar match
okay, time to make some food
>it's winners so the olimar will still be in even if he loses
god dammit

I didn't find Shuton's play interesting either, though.

anything but olimar

>7 characters in top 8
>People still complaining that this is proof that the game is unbalanced

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>plays Luci sometimes
Hes alright

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don't forget the other olimar already in loser's

wouldn't he just be a top 5 player with Lucina instead

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Neither was K.Rool, and he still got nerfed. You are an idiot.

>It's MKLeo that's making Ike viable
Hey idiot, that principle can be applied to any character.

Ike is unga and MkLeo uses unga combos. Yes he's better than other Ikes, but take Ike's nair away and guys like Tweek, Light and Samsora are clearly better. Even ZeRo traditionally makes Leo his bitch.

>needs to pull pikmin
>opponent gets hit even the slightest and olimar has enough time to pull out all three before they can even input out of hitstun

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When you're playing as him, absolutely

Ike wins.

olimar players are fags

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>great fox/snake set
>tournament crashes and burns afterwards

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Fucking hell, Olimar does crazy high damage percentages in the blandest way possible.

New thread:

the armor on whistle is the funniest shit in smash

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Yea Forums has no idea what definition of balance means. Fact even lower tier chars put up a damn good fight rather than get 2-3 stocked consistently is pretty good.

>remove strength of your main and he is bad!

the chad shuton and the virgin myran

>not waiting for bump limit
user.......................

>wifi redditor who doesn't know who MKLeo was before ultimate tries to talk about a game he's shit at

I hope a new character wins instead of ike just so I can watch Yea Forums ree about somebody else being OP

Well yeah, MKLeo is absolutely dominant. But I don't see how that proves the game is unbalanced, especially considering he's the only good Ike player.

yea he seems cool

>dude just hit him when he pulls pikmin lmao

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>Make this good character bad and this player will lose to players who play top tiers!
What did he mean by this?

You need to articulate your argument better. Leo is currently playing a character which forces his opponents to play significantly cleaner than other ones since Ike only has to win a few times and can do so cleanly. It's new-game heavy syndrome.

Yea Forums would just ree at Tweek's Wolf/ Wario

nu-v waits for leffen to cry about something, the bitch about that.

>"Megaman is soooo OP"
>"Ike nair nair nair"

olimar prob next desu

im not gonna shill someone again but fuck alpharad or whatever hes named is uploads some fun stuff, i have literally fun watching CPU tournaments

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It's so fucking unbalanced and brutal that it makes basically everyone viable since everyone can 0-death, some characters just have an easy time getting into close range than others. There's arguably 3 or 4 "bad" characters.

His best character is unironically Lucina. He switches to her when he was sure his opponent isn't one to fall for Ike's nair spam.

I'm personally looking forward to the retarded "[character that wins tonight] needs a nerf" thread later tonight

Has there been anyone else that had managed to bring Ike to at least the semi-finals?

Now post the uncensored Palutena pics

He pulls out Pikmin on the VERY first frame, it's fucking nuts

thats the third time in the last 2 months that leo sent myran to losers in this matchup

People will just be spamming the usual nerf Ike nair even though anyone else playing him would just get crushed.

Yeah it should take as long as the games, so about 30-40 frames.

DK, Ness, Luigi, and Link are all completely unviable, and Mario and Samus are debatably unviable.