Can someone explain to me why everyone hated the ending to Mass Effect 3?

because the ending is decided at the last moment and isn't a consideration of all the choices that you've made throughout the series; because each of the endings is practically a color palette swap for the "explosion" at the end; because the very final scene implies that all of your actions have simply been someone telling a youth a story, thereby meaning they could have been an unreliable narrator

That's actually really even, considering at least 30-40% of those male shepard players are girls playing male shepard.

So it's about 52% male players and 48% female players

What was wrong with ME3 in general? ME1>ME3>ME2 imo.

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Nailed it.

I'm not new to Yea Forums by any means. I just never played Mass Effect because I'm not into TPS or WRPGs. When I finally gave it a shot I was pleasantly surprised. However, when I was approaching end, I was bracing myself for a shitshow due to all the flak it got, but I ended up liking it.

what in the actual fuck? this is next level delusion

Kaidan deserves better

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>at least 30-40% of those male shepard players are girls
no they're not; trannies don't count, btw

>I wanted a chance to celebrate saving the galaxy with my teammates who I had become attached to.

This is what I was expecting. People wanted a "feel-good" hollywood ending.

I don't blame anyone for that. Shepard busted his ass and deserved to be happy. That being said, the ending I got had plenty of emotional impact.

Yes, it was the same for me; I was late at getting on with ME3 and was already braced for THE MOST HORRIBLE ENDING IN THE HISTORY OF VIDEOGAMES, based on all that whining on forums.
With those expectations, it... wasn't that bad. Mediocre and unrewarding, yes, but not actually horrible bad.

What's wrong with it? How about the lack of actual fucking choices? In ME1 and ME2 you always had at least 3, if not more choices to respond with. Every dialog choice in ME3 is just 2.

You kill the Rachni Queen on Noveria, she'll be there as a "clone" in ME3 because the developers didn't have the time to actually design the game differently.

The whole game is full of this shit.

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ME1 has the best Normandy by far

Were people really expecting there to be 1000 different endings based on all the choices you made?

>The commanding officer is ashore; XO Pressly has the deck

That's exactly how they kept selling the series, so the fault doesn't lay on the player for having that expectation (though obviously not as over-exaggerated as what you said)

>me1
>you can't possibly understand our complex motivation
>me3
>we kill you so you don't make robots that kill you

>because the very final scene implies that all of your actions have simply been someone telling a youth a story, thereby meaning they could have been an unreliable narrator
The ending choice was god awful, but this fucked me off so much.

Obviously not. You don't even make that many important choices. We expected the ending to happen seamlessly depending on how you played. ME2 did something very rudimentary with character and even Shepard's deaths. Disregarding everything just to make you actively choose (the color of your ending, since they're all basically the same) the last 30 seconds is lazy fucking design.

Yup. People who played this game after the shit storm (like me) aren't as mad at the ending.

No, not thousands but the spiel that was coming from Biowares marketing machine implied that the choices players had made across the entire series would shape how the ending would play out.

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Reload your save and play the other two endings and you'll understand

Let's start with something simple
>You built a 3km long sophisticated piece of machinery
>The only way to use it is to kill yourself
Like, I still code in C, so I know a few things about barebones engines that require work be done as close to the metal as you possible can, but that is fucking ludicrous.

How many endings have Dragon Age Origins?
ME3 ending was just lazy, even after the extended cut dls is crap.

Fair enough. But that doesn't necessarily mean the ending we got was a bad conclusion to the story. Most of the choices Shepard made didn't mean jack shit in the context of the Reaper invasion anyway.

Because the Reaper invasion itself, it's purpose and meaning were horribly executed.

ME:3 was my favorite game in the series, but the ending could have been much better. I really enjoyed it up until you get into that elevator.
Some problems I have with that ending
>Why should you trust that child? He could be lying.
>How and why would the creators of that weapon create something with 3 different functions? That makes no sense. It just seems like a cheap way to give the player a final option about the ending
>Destroy is kinda okay. I still don't get why all synthetic live would be destroyed and it feels like backstabbing EDI and the Geth but whatever
>Control is really fucking stupid. So Shepard becomes a reaper? How? Why? What the fuck?
>Synthesis is even more retarded. ME usually has an explanation about how technology works. But how in the love of God is a shockwave supposed to fuse DNA with AI?
Also you jumping into the fucking gun. Why?
It would have been a better ending if Shepard just pushed a button and see the reapers explode.
Also the ending is very anticlimactic. After so many hours of gameplay you don't even get to see how the enemy was defeated? Let Shepard die for all I care but at least have the decency to show people celebrate their victory.
But other then the ending it's my favorite mass effect game and a solid 9.5/10 in my opinion

This.
I mean to be fair even hentai games have 5~50 different endings based on shit you did.
Changing the color of an explosion 3 times is pretty fucking lazy.

>452260958
>Why should you trust that child? He could be lying.

I think the catalyst was just manifesting itself as a child in order to communicate with Shepard.

As someone who enjoyed the game though, the dream sequences with the kid in the forest were cringe as fuck and didn't fit with the rest of the series.
Also Tali should have looked more exotic. Getting to finally see a Quarian, and it's just a human after 5 minutes of MSpaint was a let down.

Other than that though, I thought ME3 was good game.

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I mean I'm not really bothered by it anymore because I'm dead inside but I'll certainly never say "it wasn't that bad after all" or whatever because it was fucking awful.

This is why I always try and avoid pre-release hype. The more blind I go into a game, the more I enjoy it.

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Shooting the Star child and rejecting him should have been the ending the fans wanted. No dumb shit with turning into a reaper or killing everyone or everyone become synths. Just telling him to fuck off and if your galactic readiness was at 100% then you'd beat the reapers. Instead Bioware made it a giant fuck you to the players

Has anyone mentioned how the ending we’re way worse am a absolute slap to the face before they patched them?

Funny that you said that. On my first playthrough I shot the starchild because I thought he was just playing a trick on me.
Yeah that was a giant middle finger in my face

>Yea Forums can't tell the difference between these two images
You know most of it would have been redrawn even if they did use it as a base?

>only the last decision you make matters
Fuck you Bioware. I am still mad, and I will always be mad.

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Based and principled user.

It's a shame that none of the squad members unique to ME2 were playable in ME3.

>would have been redrawn
you don't say

you get legion for a bit, don't you? I can't really remember, I played 3 once at launch and then never again

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Honestly I thought the ending was alright because Good. You opened this message. This isn't actually asari military command. They're busy tending to what's left of their planet. So you survived our fight on Thessia. You're not as weak as I thought. But never forget that your best wasn't good enough to stop me. Now an entire planet is dying because you lacked the strength to win. The legend of Shepard needs to be re-written. I hope I'm there for the last chapter. It ends with your death. -KL

It hurts me to this day, user and it severely hampered my enjoyment of ME3.

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fuck off back to your cereal, you mug

You also have to remember the original ending was less than what it is today. That part at the end where Shepherd's narrating and describing what the new world he helped make looked like, how it was going? Didnt exist.

It was just the colored laser, your crew crashlanding on a random planet with all the mass relays destroyed, and then cut to black and credits gg.

>tell them to fuck off
>lol you and everyone else died and we recorded your shit since you fucked up so badly so no one else can do the same stupid shit you did

Try again, gook. Too obvious.

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The ending is so fucking stupid because it doesn't take into account galactic readiness. By having you just instantly lose it means that no matter what everyone would have died on Earth if Shepard hadn't chosen one of the three endings which doesn't make any fucking sense what so ever

>Commander Shepard has become a legend by ending the Reaper threat. Now you can continue to build that legend through further gameplay and downloadable content.

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Galactic readiness ended up not mattering outside of a post credits scene in one of three endings. It was a fucking joke.

They patched it. Before there were a ton of stupid shit like the people with you on the ground escaped on the normandy without the pickup scene.

but mostly it was the "ROBUTS AND ORGNIKS CANT BE FRIENDS!" bullshit they pull out at the last second as the reason for the Reapers.

Even if you reunited the Geth and the Quarians they just told you it can't work.

They built giant robots that kill all organic life every 50.000 years to keep organic life from building robots that kill all organic life..... yeah that sounds like the perfect solution

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Kai Leng felt like he was from a completely different game.

Reminder that if you think the extended cut fixed anything in the ending you're a literal brainlet

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>Buzz Aldrin "acting"
>the kid is a shrunken adult
>despite having a child model right fucking there
I knew from the hilarious player running animations that 3 was going to be special, but I had no idea it would stretch to beyond the fucking credits

>the dream sequences with the kid in the forest were cringe as fuck and didn't fit with the rest of the series.
I never really understood this one because there's people you could easily tie this into in the series. At the barest you could have them be the squad member you leave for dead on Virmire on ME1 and then it would make some sense, Shepard's guilt and some PTSD and done. They could have tied squad members who died on ME2 into the algorythm too. But they switched it to some meaningless kid you have no connection to whatsoever.

All it did is let the player know they're trying to manipulate the player, and badly at that since they made it obvious with making the dead entity a kid.

hell no, mass effect 2's is mass fucking comfy and actually feels like a big ship. only problem are the FUCKING LOADING SCREENS

Shepard, step away from the youngling and please take a seat.

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>and actually feels like a big ship
that's part of the reason I don't like it. The armory being adjacent to the bridge was fucking retarded, too.

>They built giant robots that kill all organic life every 50.000 years

Umm they were harvesting not killing in order to preserve life. duh.

>you get legion for a bit, don't you? I can't really remember, I played 3 once at launch and then never again

Nope, Legion shows up like the other ME2 squad members do through the game but not one of them are playable. It seems like an odd choice really.

-You have Garrus and Tali as the constant companions through each game.
-You have Liara and Ashley/Kaiden returning from ME1.
-You have James Vega, EDI (playable) and Javik as your new ME3 squad members.

So that's 2-3 in each group. But they couldn't give us at least 2 squad members from ME2? There was the whole suicide mission thing but... Garrus and Tali could die in that as well and they're here. It really seems like a missed opportunity.

He would have fit perfectly in Metal Gear Rising.

as a fucking jobber too

Endings should have been different depending on your light/dark rating but they're basically all the same. No reason to play another personality.

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>no Wrex
dropped.

>Thane and Tali drinking the same beer
>Garrus and Shepard eating the same popcorn
NOT SAFE

INDOCTRINATION THEORY

>dropped
Quite so.

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THE PRIZE

>dextros sharing food/drink with levos
its allergic reaction time

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>Varren next to Jack
Now we know who brought the STD on board.

By the way don't google ashley wrex with safe search offor do

Rannoch and Tuchanka were the best parts of 3. Not Coincidentally they were the only parts where your choices from both the previous games actually mattered.

>Killing Wrex.
You bastard.

>curing the genophage
you cuck

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I just wanted 2 endings. A good and a bad one, but they were to incompetent to even do that.

>Good ending: Shepard and Garrus are just chilling on a beach on earth, shooting the shit like usual, looking like they need medical attention, but fuck that. Camera then pans around to an ocean full of Reaper carcasses and Garrus just goes "We have a lot of clean-up to do" as you pass him a crappy turian beer from the Normandy. "Right" you mutter as you crack open your own beer. Cut to credits.

>Bad ending: Narrated by one of the squadmates that wasn't on earth, narrating what happened to you, how the reapers are implementing their plan, one world at a time, and there's not a fleet big enough to stop them now, they're just trying their best to hide Liara's new beacon from the reapers to try and give the next galactic civilization a fighting chance.

But nope, At least the "expanded" ending did let us see Liara's beacon, which seemed weird to me that they would dedicate an entire cutscene to it and never do anything with it after the fact.

>Not wanting to have a race of ultra tough lizard people with almost complete loyalty to humanity.

>Space niggers
>Loyal to anyone
Wrex would die eventually, the rest of the Krogans don't give a fuck about humans.

>fans complain about the endings being the same flavor of shit
>EC adds in a fourth ending where telling the space babby to fuck off results in the entire galaxy getting murked and having to leave it to the next cycle
You could just smell the passive aggressiveness

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>complete loyalty

until they replace wrex, remember the salarians repaired Tuchanka's atmosphere and the korgan still tried to kill them and everyone else a few years later.

>Having to kill two of your best friends in cold blood for the future of the galaxy
>Or just be paragon and everyone lives happily ever after
If you don't play renegade you're doing it wrong

Did you know that "Mass Effect" is called "Mass Effect" because your choices throughout the trilogy will have a "mass effect" on the ending, aye?

the ending is not the problem
it's all the shit that leads to it

>ok we made quarians and geth go to peace
>NO ORGANICS WILL ALWAYS FIGHT METALS MY LOGIC IS PERFECT AND IRREVERSIBLE
>no you are a faggot
>SO BE IT
>:YOU DIED: Continue? Yes ; No

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>shepard!
>my friend!
if u didnt cure the genophage get out the thread

>promise an ending where all your choices and the way you played across the entire trilogy will play a role
>the ending literally gives you 3 choices to pick from, what you did doesn't fucking matter at all
>any choice you make results in 95% the same actual ending, but with red, green or blue energy jumping around the galaxy
>there wasn't even a final boss or anything, anticlimactic as fuck
>after the absolute shitshow of an ending a window pops up and tells you to get DLC
People were unhappy than an ending which was supposed to be the culmination of literal hundreds of hours of gameplay and years of following the series was turned into basically the same fucking cutscene with a different color palette. It was entirely awful. It was so awful in fact that it killed my interest in the series on the spot. I never gave a fuck about Andromeda at all, though I was entirely unsurprised when it turned out to be shit, considering Bioware's track record.

i chained her to the nuke and flew away after she killed wrex in my first ME playthrough. kill my boy wrex, fuck outta here.

I did, because Wrex was a bro. The Tuchanka arc was the best part of ME3.

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While I still haven't played the Mass Effect games myself, I kind of miss the shitstorm that was on Yea Forums when ME3 came out, especially all the reaction image edits to make fun of the shitty Tali face pic.

youtube.com/watch?v=bIzzCIQAm7Y

I remember it was because a lot of the "old fags" fans of mass effect 1 complained about it. Bioware then reduced and focused more on the og team and relegated the me2 crew to side missions. This was a stupid move imo as the whole point of 2 is to get a CREW to fight for you.

this pic is retarded, videogames constantly use existing shit as base for EVERYTHING

I saw you faggots praising from software for ripping anor londo from a real world castle, and you stigmatize bioware for using a digital painting as base for a a small 3D map with skybox for a cutscene? holy shit nigger

>Not breeding her and making badass soldier kids
gay

How short sighted, it's far better to let her live then gun her down in 3.

god that was so satisfying i hated ashley from the moment i started the game. all these cool ass aliens and they throw this crazy lady in my face who wont stop shit talking them

2>1>andromeda>3

HUMAN WOMEN....

reminder that destroy is the canon ending

control and synthesisfags are wrong

Ahem.
Ashley is literally /our girl/
>Racist
>Christian
>Loves guns

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this isnt even good bait

After the Extended Cut and years of cooling off, I don't even hate the ending anymore. It's just kind of a lackluster disappointment compared to what people were hyping up in anticipation to it. Fans were expecting Suicide Mission 2.0 that would make use of every major character and species throughout the entire trilogy, but it boiled down to a shooting corridor and three off-putting choices.

I still enjoy the game and trilogy as a whole though, despite the flaws there hasn't been any series of games quite like it.

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it's not bait at all

ive played through enough times now to have done that many times. i was only talking about my first playthrough

>Andromeda above anything
>Andromeda existing

get that shit out of my face zoomer

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If there was a way to keep Wrex alive without curing the genophage then I'd have done that
But genophage was justified, Turians and Salarians did nothing wrong, fuck Krogans and fuck Krogan sympathisers

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>ashley
>goblina
>not miranda
>genetic perfection
shit taste in /pol/ waifus

I'll give ME3 this, at least I actually finished it once. Can't say the same for Andromeda.

1 > 2 > 3 > Andromeda btw

Make indoctrination theory canon, make shepard breathing in the rubble canon. And then, and only then maybe you could redeem the game.

I didn't like the ending either, but I think it's disingenuous to say that no branching choice sticks.

You can still save or kill pretty much your entire crew, and make three or so species go extinct. There just wasn't any form of epilogue to semi-acknowledge it until the Extended Cut DLC.

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>Babby thinks Andromeda has no redeeming qualities

Literal shit taste

Fucking pic related makes it worth playing

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based

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She's pretty shit as a teammate in 3, one of her skills even bugs the shit out of her and bioware still hasn't fixed it.

1>3>2(mass effect: a side quest)>trash>me:a

lmao this is just simply not true

2>A>1>3

Undeniable fact

now this is shit posting

>furfag (scalie) degenerate, of course

>deceitful marketing
you have no one to blame but yourself if you’re so retarded that you let marketing affect your enjoyment of a game (or anything for that matter)

No as Turians fall under Xenophilia

>Why did everyone hate the ending to Me3?
Because they spent the better part of a decade creating a franchise based on persistent choices and relevance of previous decisions; even more than something like Dragon Age where your 'story' was supposed to carry through.

This in itself was well received and even loved, it carried part of the community and people were into it; but in the final chapter of the trilogy, they betrayed this design and decided to offer three seemingly-arbitrary (when compared to 3 entire RPG's worth of decisions) decisions, and a couple corridors that all played out (and narrated out) the same for everyone.

Your shephard, decisions, alive/dead crew, all the choices and culminations of decisions across a greatly enjoyable series, became nil and kaput in favor of a "Haha pick 1 of 3 doors for the galaxy to end".

It would have been tremendously more well-received if it had given you no choice, and instead simply forced upon you the ending relevant to your shephard's life, choices, your actions/etc throughout ME1, 2, and 3, and that was the consequence of your story. But no. No, they offered you a 3 mystery doors with 3 more or less unrelated-to-your-choices endings behind them.
>yes im still mad

me3 would've been less of a shit-show if it was instead a game about dressing up garrus in ballerina outfits, it was just that bad

It's exactly why it's bad. Nothing, not a single fucking thing you do in the game mattered. All you do in the end is choose which ending sequence you want to see. It's the cheapest cop-out I can think of. For a series completely based on choices, the only choice that mattered was accepting this steaming pile of shit.

>muh choices

gamers really are some of the most pathetic people

I usually play as male but have never met anyone else but one other woman who did that, it's rare as fuck. There are way more men playing as female characters and most people who played as femShep to fuck Garrus seem ot be male too. I guess the majority women just doesn't play these games, or games in general.

I'll be honest user. The first Mass Effect I played was Mass Effect 3, and at the time, I didn't see why everyone hated the ending. I mean, I was actually floored when I got that final choice; it felt like a genuine dilemma.

Then I looked online, and started thinking on it. And thinking more. And realizing the lack of actual closure in those ending few minutes. And finding out that the only real differences between the endings were the explosion colors. (I was playing it on my brother's Xbox so I didn't have an actual Xbox Live account with which to download the free Extended Cut DLC.)

Having since beaten the whole trilogy three times on PS3, and twice on PC after that, I'm of the belief that the Extended Cut is serviceable, but still not great, and the original, pre-Extended version is truly incompetently awful.

You have to keep in mind that when the game came out, the only ending was the pre-Extended ending. I'm assuming if you're playing a new version of the game the Extended Cut is downloaded by default. Without the Extended Cut, that whole slideshow at the end that actually explains what the world is like after your choice? Not there. The Shepard memorial scene, including the version that makes Shepard's survival less ambiguous if you get the best Red ending? Not there. The scene where Shepard calls an evac for his squadmates, explaining why they aren't there if you get enough War Assets that they don't die in the final beam rush? Not there. The part where the Normandy, after crashing on the jungle planet, flies back into the skies? Not there. Imagine how much worse the ending looks now.

as are BioWare's senior staff and marketing department, given they kept hyping that up. Shit devs deserve shit fans.

Absolutely spot on.

Sorry but humans are one of the shittier species, she has shit taste.

She and a few NPCs are literally the only reason for why I am planning on playing this.

If you thought the worst part of Mass Effect 3 is the ending, you are an idiot.

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Everyone complains about this but I'm honestly trying to think of a game with multiple endings where the endings aren't mostly identical.

The games had tons of divergences caused by your playing style though, that's the point.
If they can change a shitton of scenes and events throughout the games, why can't they change the endings as well? Nobody expects 40 endings here, a paragon/renegade ending for each of the three main endings would have been enough or just two main endings.

>because the very final scene implies that all of your actions have simply been someone telling a youth a story, thereby meaning they could have been an unreliable narrator

How autistic would you have to be to get mad about this?

is Andromeda worth playing?
like is it actually good in some respect?

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>tfw no space Birb Raptor Smuggler gf

Best Romance
Best Squadmate
Best Voice Acting

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New Vegas?

Luckily its combat and exploration are its strongest points

And what do you do most of?
Combat and Exploration

(cont'd) Furthermore, in the original version, the Mass Relays are fully destroyed instead of merely damaged. This means all the people of those other races who fought in the final battle against the Reapers were stranded in the Sol system, a HUGE problem especially for the races which can't eat the same foods humans can, such as the Turians and the Quarians.

But let's add in everything the Extended Cut fixed. Now the ending is less bleak (or at least, without unintentional bleakness caused by plotholes as gaping as Goatse), and has at least some semblance of closure as we see the results of some of our big choices.

It's still retarded. Introducing this "Starchild" in the last 10 minutes, who somehow looks just like hoodie kid from the oepning? Give me a fucking break, what a load of contrived horseshit once you get past the initial "whoooa bookends" moment. And, of course, even if the Extended Cut lets us see some of the results of our choices, at the end of the day, no matter what you do, it all comes down to A, B, C, or a sad D option exclusive to the Extended Cut.

>"It's not even in any way like the traditional game endings, where you can say how many endings there are or whether you got ending A, B, or C."
- Casey Hudson, director of the Mass Effect trilogy.

And the closure you get from the Extended Cut is still limited to just a few minutes. With the MASSIVE cast who you came to know and love so dearly, all you get is a slideshow that shows off a few characters and races? It's not bad, but compared to how much time and effort beating the whole trilogy takes, it's just not enough payoff honestly.

I liked Andromeda. Most of the complaints about it were completely warranted, especially the technical ones regarding animations and facial expressions, but I think Yea Forums grossly exaggerates how "bad" it is. It's not a bad game, just a mildly disappointing one.

>tfw you shot mordin bcs he was moral fagging when evrything was on the line

feelgoodman

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Nanana dumb dumb, this isn't really the asari military command and you fell for my shipost haha.

So much for the legendary user, next time I will definitely make you lots of hurt!

Ba~ba!

I MADE A MISS STEAK

Reminds me of that strip where it has Garrus killing Peebee in the first encounter, acting like andromeda is bad because no one shot her DESPITE LITERALLY IN THAT ENCOUNTER LIAM SAYS "BACK OFF OR I WILL PUT YOU DOWN!"

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it's a valid complaint, though, quite literally
>it was all a dream
tier

(cont'd) So that, OP, is why people didn't like the endings. They don't offer much closure, you can't really get a perfect ending (the closet thing to that you can get, the best Red ending, genocides the Geth even if you united them and the Quarians, setting back redevelopment of Quarian homeworld Rannoch by decades), and without the Extended Cut slideshow, which even then only has differing narrations and variations of images (not wholly different images, for the most part; VARIATIONS of the images already chosen) there's quite little variation between the three big ending options. The Extended Cut does give some closure and fills plotholes of the original version, but it still has the awful Starchild bullshit.

OP, you should really look into the Indoctrination Theory, which was created by fans to retcon the ending into something that gives the whole trilogy a highly interesting new perspective, and although the Extended Cut ostensibly disproves it, I recall that it also adds in at least one or two things nodding to it, if only for the purpose of getting fans talking. It also explains why you completely fucked up in picking the Green ending.

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Nier.
Drakengard.

Taimanin Asagi

THas a goood fight ShUpurd

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I think the Cardinal is an Under Rated character

Sure shes just a 1 mission NPC and Boss Fight, but she didnt do anything wrong

>does not direct any troops to attack you, any you encounter were there already
>does not harm any Angara personally
>Is willing and keeps her word about letting the Angara free
>does not directly attack you, her drone attacks you, is stopped before she can directly attack you
>attacks you entirely in self defense

Literally only wanted her Temple to be kept safe
Cardinal did nothing wrong

Why do people have strong opinions about this banal franchise either way?

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>needing fan theories to save your game

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My theory is that everything was some bullshit version of the moon landing that Buzz Aldrin tells his grandkid.

And Garrus was my favorite everything in the trilogy. Confirmed for best species.
>inb4 if we ever get a new ME it won't have Turians this time but four romanceable Goblina Asari and bisexual humans instead

>not telling her you'll fuck her shit up and blowing the whole place

Saren was right. He should have won.

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>no game starring Garrus during his days as a C-Sec officer
sad

Wasn't he doing mostly paper work though?
Regardless of everything though, I would play a space game that was borderline slice of life for once.

>theres one romancable turian
>he's an incredibly annoying faggot
>no female turians show up for 90% of the game except one waifubait who is quickly killed
you know it would happen
fucking bioware

Now I kinda want a classical, human-sceptic, stick-in-ass tsundere Turian that slowly falls in love with my player character despite absolutely not wanting to.

he was bogged down in paper work and red tape, but was still very much was an active crime fighter

I unironically would have prefered more Spectre related story and missions in the later games over Reapers. I loved the first game and the Reaper stuff in there, but it kinda annoyed me later.

Yes. If you liked the other ME games you'll enjoy Andromeda. Just don't expect a game that outshines the original trilogy, or that expands on the original trilogy.

Thanks for letting me know about the theory. My headcanon was mostly similar and it was good to read a conclusion to the story. Makes more sense then the official ending.

>renegade is minority
Honestly surprised as I always found renegade to make a way more interesting character

>there are people unironically defending Andromeda in this thread

fucking hell, this place is just reddit now isn't it?

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I'm mad because they couldn't be assed to even write half a paragraph to to give closure to your teammates

I usually prefer the evil route too but liked most of the characters in ME too much to make them sad.
They only defended it with their dick though, they didn't say the game itself was particularly good.

>all those filler characters
ME2 was a mistake.

I enjoyed the game yeah. Having a free mind and not parroting Yea Forums can work wonders

It's only a handful of retarded waifufags.

To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Mass effect Andromeda. The humour is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of theoretical physics most of the jokes will go over a typical viewer's head. There's also Ryder's nihilistic outlook, which is deftly woven into his characterisation- his personal philosophy draws heavily from Narodnaya Volya literature, for instance.

>flying around reading planet descriptions and thinking of how many of these stories would have been amazing had they been fleshed out
some of those are great and would make perfect settings for spin offs/prequels/sequels/anything but no fuck you have andromeda

I think they went in too much about the Reapers in general. Lovecraftian Horrors work because they aren't and can't be explained. By giving them a beginning and an end, the Reapers are just mundane robot squids.

It also means you can't really make sequels past ME3's ending, and that's probably the worst corporate decision ever.

Why does shooting the tube activate the function that kills all synthetics?

Why does it target all synthetics even if you got the Interferometric Array? A device explicitly meant to target Reapers specifically?

If the Catalyst is mandated to protect Life at all costs then why does he hand the controls over to Shepard just because he made it to his room? The first organic in BILLIONS of years?

Is there any reason why Shepard can't order the Reapers to fly into the sun? Does he have to become space dictator no matter what?

If Synthesis is the terminal point of all life like the Catalyst claims then why does he keep killing it before it can make it there?

Yeah this. ME1 had the perfect ending anyway. Since we also have a whole damn universe and a shitton of foreign cultures to explore it's rather tedious being forced to follow one specific threat that isn't connected to any actual species nor does it has an own culture or anything, it's just foreign things that destroy everything, end.

If you're dumb enough to like the ME 3 ending, in any of its forms, then you're probably so blinded by non existent standards and a double digit IQ that no amount of people typing up rhetoric on an anonymous Mandarin Basket Weaving forum will ever convince you of just how monumentally bad the ending was. Go fuck yourself with a rake.

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I would have been more disappointed if they hadn't tried to explain the Reaper's motives. I mean yeah, the explanation we got was stupid, but at least they tried.

Who came up with the idea of the Crucible? No one has ever even seen the Catalyst. Shepard was the first to make it to his room. You mean to tell me that thousands of species across billions of years worked together on a patchwork Reaper killer that needed to interface with an AI no one has ever seen before?

How did a splinter cell of the Alliance turn into the galactic empire in only a few months? Were there that many people on Horizon?

What exactly is Synthesis? Like really? Everyone in the galaxy is now cyborgs with a hivemind collective?

Why was Shepard necessary for Synthesis to work? He's just a cyborg. Not even a particularly interesting one. If this was the Catalysts goal why not just dump any cyborg into the Crucible?

You're lucky to have the three games on hand to play. People actually anticipated for years for the epic conclusion to hundreds of hours of gameplay and the fruit of their painful choices. The ending to 3 was the biggest middle finger because it took all that wasted time and funneled it into three of the fucking same ending. Then the new "do nothing" ending got released and it was more salt on the wound since it shows that Bioware didn't get a damn thing what players expected.

>Only 12% femshep

That's amazing to me. I'm the only person I know who played as male shep.

Why would you even play as femshep unless you really want to fuck the raptor? The male design choices aren't that bad and most fesheps look pretty ugly too.

not him, but I really like Jennifer Hayle's voice

>star kid comes completely out of nowhere and says you HAVE to pick one of three options, but never explains why
>never explains what the crucible even is other than a contrived plot device shoehorned in by the writers
>all of the endings look similar and just use a space magic deus ex machina to fix everything
>ending doesn't actually take into account any of the forces you gathered up or any of the choices you've made before
The ending was objectively awful, it was clearly rushed shit thrown together at the last second because the team didn't have the resources to make a proper one

She sounds unnatural outside of renegade big bitch lines.

Yeah, mysteries like the Reapers are things that people were going to be disappointed about no matter how you try to explain or not explain them in the end.

different strokes, I guess, I thought she was decent; not saying that Mark Meer wasn't, mind you

If the Catalyst's goal was to protect organics from their synthetic creations then why did they respond to the Geth's distress call on Rannoch? The Quarians were winning that fight. And it's not like the Reapers were planning on turning them into Reaper goo. They don't even get Husks. So why help the Geth?

What were the Reapers doing on Earth prior to the final battle? At the end of the game the Reapers use the Citadel as a processing station and it's super important and everything. But they didn't have that until the final battle. What were they doing with the humans prior to that?

Why didn't the Reapers just capture the Citadel and turn the Relays off like every other cycle? Completely destroying Shepard's ability to build an army?

Why did Harbinger not shoot down the Normandy when it landed directly in front of it during the goodbye scene?

Here. I want to expand on my point a little more.

>Lovecraftian Horrors work because they aren't and can't be explained.

Reapers are not supernatural beings though. Being that they are machines, it follows that they were created with a purpose. Withholding their purpose at the end of ME3 would have been disappointing because the mystery of the Reapers' motives was a major point of tension since the interaction with Sovereign on Virmire. The payoff was necessary even if the actual explanation didn't make sense.

Yeah, instead of the vague tube, electric rods and laser beam, they should've have the hacking, bypass and decryption minigames at those options.

>busy trying to save the GODDAMN galaxy
>fucking aria feels entitled to my time and thinks it's ok to gamble with the life of the galaxy's best shot at survival to recover her shithole of a station
Fucking writer's pet gets jerked off so much she even one ups the shadow broker and has the fucking asari councillor in her pocket. Hated her character and legit pissed me off that you can't tell her to go fuck herself, or side with nyreen, or oleg, or patriarch, or even the fucking mercenary gangs and send her back to polishing poles where she belongs

What even is the point of Sovereign staying behind if the Catalyst controls the Citadel? Can't the Catalyst just turn the Relays back on itself?

No for real though, why don't the Relays obliterate their star system when destroyed?

Does the green ending also count for VI's? Do porn characters suddenly become sentient once the green energy hits them? I ask because the game treats the EDI robot like she's a person now but EDI isn't the robot. It's the ship. So the Normandy is alive now?

Man, the Engineer class was fun. Run with Tali and Legion, you can have three suicidal explosive A.I units. Wipe the floor.

If everything has the same DNA in the synthesis ending, why don't they all look the same? Why don't they all have your Shepard's face? Shepard-Joker, Shepard-Tali, Shepard-trees, etc you get point.

It always felt like the writers were shoving Asari down our throats a bit too much for me. Hell we have multiple Asari romances in every game as well and they're bisexual too so they will bother you regardless of the gender you choose. They are also always depicted at the wise, most perfect species while humans are the noobs, Krogans just the brutes, Turians the rigid nazis and so on and if you do that you can be sure that I will hate them. I think some Asari are kinda cool and the species isn't too bad but in general they are pretty annoying and I never romanced any of them for that very reason.

I get that everything is supposed to "understand each other"or some shit in the green ending but does that mean that everyone is just cool with living with the robot, cyborg jellyfish who just tried to genocide them? I can understand why a poor man might resort to robbing houses but I still wouldn't just let it go if he shot my grandma who was living there. Why is Harbinger cool with hanging around the insects now. Especially since he spent all of ME2 bragging about how big his cyborg dick is?

>have no idea what happened to everyone, including your squadmates
>starchild is extremely vague and doesn't tell you what your choices will actually do (do i kill the quarians if i pick destroy? do i kill people with implants if i pick destroy? do i actually die in control, and if i don't what happens to me? what does synthesis even mean or entail?) and you can never ask him even though he's this magic god-like character
>we never figure out what the crucible even is
>all the endings look near identical
>all of the endings do not take into account any of the choices you made in-game or in any of the previous games

What even was the point of building up the Citadel defense force if it never changes anything?

I just wanna know how Javik is doing in the Synthesis ending lel

he's having a bad time

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He's probably tried to kill as many things as he could. And then killed himself

this

>only 8% of players aren't fucking retarded

I loved grumpy pissed characters so much.

>have no idea what happened to everyone, including your squadmates

There were scenes of them on the jungle planet and putting Shepard's name on the KIA plaque?

This. What are even the plans to prevent that shit from happening again?

to the 3 people who played Andromeda:
Is it ever explained why the fuck the Krogan are going? Why do they give a shit and more importantly who decided to let them come?
If the Batarians weren't invited who invited the infertile planet destroying spacefrognigs?
I haven't played it and I'd like to hear an explanation.

Gay krogans that can't reproduce like those in Andromeda

That basically explained nothing. As far as we knew, in the original ending, everything was dead and the Normandy was alone. And we had no explanation on why the squad mates abandoned Shepard when he needed them most. Or what even the fuck Synthesis even is.

>curing the Genophage problem but stealthy mixing in some substance that will turn 70% of Krogans gay to prevent too high birthrates
Based

Do not care what anyone says, ME2/ME3 will stand as my favorite game(s). I count them as one because they go so well together and compliment each other very well in every way.

Nah Bioware's department didn't research dextro and levo proteins (chirality) enough. The main "flavor" compound of mint AND caraway is a compound called carvone. Mint has the dextro version (tastes/smells minty), caraway has the levo version (tastes/smells licorice/anise-like).
The writers should have played it as if food tastes and smells wildly different depending on a race's base chirality.

>I still enjoy the game and trilogy as a whole though, despite the flaws there hasn't been any series of games quite like it.
This. And it's a damn shame. I'm still hoping EA remasters and releases the trilogy before deciding to kill off Bioware for good.

Fem shep worth for the shower scene alone.
That being said I played male shep and had my ME2 and ME1 data stolen by a heroin junkie. Fucking lame man had to play ME 3 on default.

this but unironically tbqh

They only invited the clans who didn't take part on the rebellions, mostly to help with construction, and only a clan decided to take the journey, thinking that they would have better chances to cure themselves away from the irradiated shithole they came from.
imo while krogans are nogs, they are still a better than allahuakbatarian niggers.

>despite the flaws there hasn't been any series of games quite like it
Yeah, it's one of the only series' besides one more I do a yearly playthrough of. Gonna do my 2019 run soon with all DLC for the first time. Damn this series has alot of DLC.

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1 > 3 > 2 > A

Correct.

>I got the singularity ending, and I kind of liked it.
Yikes!

The entire selling point of the Mass Effect series was that it was a game about choices. So it was pretty shit to find out that in the end none of your choices mattered apart from the last one. People were hoping for a big Return of the King style ending that showed what happened to all the surviving characters from their games. All these big decisions like what to do about the Krogan genophage or the Geth were just pointless in the end.

>citadel only meant to save the reapers a 6 month trip
defend this

I feel like if the Citadel DLC was incorporated into the main game, people would've been much more accepting of the ending. Might've offered some closure to the characters before heading into the final mission..

Game should have let you end your entire squad after seeing the human reaper in 2. You should have been able to fall to your knees and beg the reapers for forgiveness, pleading to let you help them harvest every human in the galaxy.
Imagine being part of a human reaper and raping every other species in the galaxy. The tough turians with their big fleet, the smart ass salarians with their scientista, and the smug asari all getting their shit pushed in by your people in a collective organic vessel.

indoctrinated and reaperpilled

Man that sounds cool. I wish I could of taken Saren up on his offer to. Imagine leading the Reaper footsoldiers with Saren as squaddie. I want to be implanted by Sovereign too!

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did hahahafire get any credit?

Never

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How in the fuck does a robot have such a fat cameltoe

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You obviously didn't play the game, EDI's body was built as an "infiltration" unit.

I'd like to "infiltrate" her ass.

Except that's not the "skin" she came with, her exoskeleton doesn't have that and after EDI took over and with that skin it serves no purpose.

The same reason she wasn't designed as an unremarkable middle aged dude. TIM wanted a sex bot, "infiltrator unit" is what he told the investors

>Vega
>so popular
Yeah sure

He wanted someone based on his former lover. Which it doesn't resemble at all.

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>Which it doesn't resemble at all.
there was some room for improvement

unswole and locopilled

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my favorite part about me3 was the story leak months in advance

A bit of interesting story and intruigue in the background with some interesting tie ins illusive mans role with the andromeda initivie and hints at cora’s past were interesting overall story and characters are pretty woeful though

Combat feels like a really well refined version of ME3 multiplayer but the inability to control squadmate powers really holds it back. Weapon choice is ok but I’d really would have liked to see pure melee be more viable or atleast more variety.

Overall I’d play it for the fun of being an adept with tactical cloak or whatever other class mixup you can make. Plots dumb and characters are typical tumblr-teir garbage.

It felt dull when I first played it but maybe I was just tired of the franchise by that point. The ending was alright because I didn't do multiple playthroughs to see the other rehashed endings at the time. I get the hate though. ME3 still had a great multiplayer regardless of its other downfalls.

>Does anyone have the still mad pasta?

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It destroyed all synths because the team have a definite vision of how it ended(muh synthesis) and their artistic integrity had to be comprised on because those damn players felt like it was bullshit. Maybe next time we should just be happy they even put an ending in with an option :^)

I played the second one and it was the most god awful boring game I’ve played. You got like 3 guns the entirety of the game. Every single encounter with any enemy was too obvious as you’d see the generic cover in a large square or rectangular area. Fucking boring.

Probably literal fags and women who wanted Hunk Mcbeefcake in bed.

The krogan VO’s on the desert planet made me drop the game. Why the fuck would you give a giant space lizard such a weak ass voice.

Combat, exploration, and graphics are really good. Everything that defines Mass Effect in that game is mediocre or worse

>serves no purpose
Joker definitely disagrees

Nobody cares about Ash and Kaiden. Nobody but waifufags care about Tali, and EDI is just shit. Vega was just great in Paragon Lost.

>WOOP WOOP WOOP WOOP WOOP
Fuck the M44 Hammerhead, most boring missions in all of mass effect were those shit firewalker missions
FUCK who thought those missions were a good idea they were boring as FUCK

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objectively correct. 2 would be better if it wasnt a side quest

Mostly the ending and that you get side missions by just passing by. But also the retarded decision to transform Cerberus from a underground military science organisation to a full blown Bond Villain with a army as big as the alliance.

I myself liked it a lot because the other stuff was good (the whole Genophage plot is one of the best things Bioware has written and your prior choices do have an impact in the game except the last 10 minutes, even random shit like "Did you buy a license in ME1?"), but it's clear why people don't like it.

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jesus christ i didnt realise it was that bad
what a mess

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You now realize that for the majority here, everything is either the worst thing of all time or a flawless masterpiece and it's always okay if Japan does it (hence why DA2 with his barebones city and copy paste environments is the worst RPG of all time and Yakuza 2 with his barebones city and copy paste environments is the best RPG of all time, I like both btw)

>Hello commander shepherd
>I hear you never cured the genophage
>Oh noooo!
>Well for that you aren't getting any cake
>Alright, just a little piece
>I cant stay mad at you
>You can have as much cake as you want
>It will be our little secret

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i agree it was justified, but years after the war they was slowly adapting to the genophage, they went back and dropped the virus again. it like going back and spraying smallpox in a casino now

>like spraying smallpox in a casino

and?

i hope another company buys the mass effect and dragon age games. Bioware is no longer what it was. i hope they dont make a KotOR3

the animations are hilariously bad all around

Kek
If only you knew how bad things really are
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If they remaster I’d hope they give some nods to the indoctrination theory

>those animations
>the fucking VA work
>THAT FUCKING FISTFIGHT
>how the nigga just walks away after it

MY FUCKING SIDES

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It's the definition of a 6/10.
The gameplay loop reminded me a lot of MGSV, in that you have several open world maps to go to, you need to work on developing your own equipment, sending soldiers to find stuff and such.
The story is not too interesting and is predictable, and there's only one ending, so they might as well have no choices.
Also, the dialogue system got Fallout 4'd, in that, instead of paragon or renegade, you just have 3 ways to say the same and one to ask a question about the whole thing.
Animations in cutscenes are awful, specially in those that are about action.

faggots deserve the rope.

>curing the genophage
Wow, most of you are foolish faggots. I am the 8%.

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This, Reapers became lame as hell

ME1 is the best game in the series