All the Valve fanboys that say Steam isn't a monopoly

>All the Valve fanboys that say Steam isn't a monopoly

If Steam isn't a monopoly, then who is the Pepsi to Steam's Coke?

Epic is the Pepsi, as it actually has Steam drones worried. Nobody worries about GoG taking market share from Steam for example

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gog.com/forum/general/wow_gog_turned_down_the_quest_for_being_too_niche/page1
youtube.com/watch?v=u93bhAimFFU
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monopoly
youtu.be/7V4UPiBOshY?t=92
twitter.com/SFWRedditGifs

NOOOOOOOOO

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i just don't want one more account to manage and eventually have to deal with once it gets hacked.

GoG has no DRM so most companies avoid it naturally since they have no protection

remember epicdrone shill for free

Never heard of Just Chatting. Is it a Steam exclusive?

There isn't one, Steam has no legitimate competition at the moment.

>who is the Pepsi to Steam's Coke?
Piracy.

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It's literal incelbait, don't buy it

fucking bonehead

1989 Tiananmen Square massacre.

I'm not a bugman and GoG does not count as """""""competition""""""""

>Yea Forums is one person

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Not cancer:
>providing a good service
>providing better revenue sharing for developers

Somewhat cancer:
>funding games in exchange for exclusivity

Absolute fucking cancer:
>paying for exclusivity even after the game was already developed without their funding

Free Tibet but also fuck Steam

How so? Why can't any of you retards actually define what a monopoly is?

>>paying for exclusivity even after the game was already developed without their funding

What about games in early access?

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Chink bugmen aren't intelligent.

Healthy competition means devs are free to put their games on multiple platforms and the consumer can choose which platform they want to buy it on. It is bullshit when the platforms are paying for exclusivity and the consumer now has to install half a dozen launchers to play the games. When platforms pull this bullshit the consumer gets hurt. Competition like this isn't beneficial for video game purchasers, it's beneficial for faggot devs who are getting nice payouts from the Epic store and the benefit of not having to put up with reviews (i.e. not held accountable for quality of their games).

Steam got ahead of the market and earned their place, other platforms are free to compete but not in this stupid bullshit way that hurts consumers. Fuck you, fuck the Epic store, and fuck the faggot indie devs who can't handle people wanting refunds for garbage quality products and reviews to tell other people about garbage quality games.

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kys chink

Free Tibet

>Steam got ahead of the market and earned their place

"Fuck you, got mine."

Still applies, the game is 90% done already and the devs would obviously finish it without the exclusivity deal.

GoG actually lets you own your games, man. it's not perfect but its the best option we have now.

MONOPOLY IS A FUCKING BOARD GAME

>and the devs would obviously finish it without the exclusivity deal.

Proof?

Epic isn't Pepsi. It's some cheap Freeway cola from Lidl.

Steam is a monopoly because there is virtually no competition for them on PC. This is obvious because most games are now Steam-exclusive and Valve takes a 30% cut from all sales knowing that they can get away with it.

Supergiant finished 3 other games already and Hades looks pretty much complete, there's no reason to think they wouldn't finish it without Epic's money.

you totally owned that capitalist epic style, comrade!

>literally makes a new thread just to continue shitposting
Report for flamewar thread.

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>Steam is a monopoly because there is virtually no competition for them on PC
Wrong in both senses, being a dominant service doesn't make it a monopoly nor is it alone in the market.

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Sneed.

>Steam is a monopoly because there is virtually no competition for them on PC

>GoG, Uplay, BlizzardNet, itch.io, and Origin don't exist
>not even counting the keysites that sell Steamkeys Valve makes zero money from

Is the implication here that Steam is far better than Epic?

This

Healthy Competition that benefits consumers:
Games exist on Steam, Epicstore, Origin, Blizzard Store etc. and consumers are free to choose which platform they want to buy it on.

Nigger Competition: Chinese execs at the Epic store throw tons of cash at weak devs who take the lump sum payout and force consumers to play on a platform they don't want to or don't play the game.

Uh oh, Steam drone detects wrong think!

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Except consoles also take that 30% cut.
Hell, it was Steam the one that lowered the standard to 30%.
Meanwhile Epic only takes 12% from devs, but charges the other 18% from the consumers because they themselves admitted is not a sustainable model.

I dont mind competing brands. I won't give dirty chinks money nor allow their spyware launcher on any of my machine. You're probably some faggot retard that thinks Avast is all you need to keep your toaster safe. Eat all the dicks, ching chong

>gook accusing others of banning wrongthink
Tiananmen Square Massacre 1989.

Go look at the reviews and review score on Metro Exodus now.
Why are you such a dishonest, cancerous shitposter?

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Tiananmen Square Protests. Free Taiwan. Taiwan is real china

>Pepsi being anywhere close to Coke

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Why don't you look at reviews for the previous Metro games, Steams shill?

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I need to kill gooks.

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I remember people actually saying this about origin
that one caught on pretty well, too

What are you, some assblasted Metro dev?
Either that or a shill, considering you've been at this for a month now.

Anyway, i'm very happy that you are angry enough to cry 24/7 about it here.

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The analogy makes no sense since both Coke and Pepsi are cancerous shit that try to enforce local monopolies through government regulation and bullying sellers into not selling the other brands.

>M-muh steam drones
Fuck off console war child
>food analogy
god you fucking shills are so goddamn braindead it's insufferable

Not really, Origin is pretty much a Battlefield launcher, and even then Battlefield is dying.
People who use non-Steam launchers use them for their exclusives, never as main launchers because they never get libraries as big as Steam's.
And at this rate, where only with 20 games Epic has already had to start bribing people, they'll never catch up.

>that post where he wants reviews gone
lmao he's SEETHING.

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what he said has literally nothing to do with Yea Forums. he just answered yes so as not to look stupid. This place is literally just alt-groupthink and a false rebellion.

>Zoomers can't fucking understand what a monopoly is
>Zoomers think Steam is a monopoly because competition sucks in comparison
Go read a fucking book god dammit you kids make me angry.

>Epic is the first real competitor
>has literally no games
>I-I don't see how Origin is better
>has all franchises made by EA and plenty of other third parties

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>Steam got ahead of the market and earned their place, other platforms are free to compete but not in this stupid bullshit way that hurts consumers.
Sorry sweetie, that's false. They're absolutely allowed to release exclusives like Steam is going. If you don't like it, don't buy it- but please, spare us all of your childish tantrum.

People were peeved about EA pulling several games from Steam too back then but at least they were EA-published games and not literal randos they paid exclusivity for.

>this exact post again

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Not a bad analogy. Most will prefer one over the other, but I dont think a vast majority of people mind using the other if that's their option for specific instances.

>Can I get a diet Coke here?
>Is diet Pepsi okay?
>Eh, sure.

Bribing is not healthy competition, and it's something that only Epic brought to the table because Epic, unlike the owners of every single other launcher, have only ONE (1) game.

Imagine being literally worse than EA.

So in other words, Steam is not healthy competition because it has exclusives that I can only play on Steam. I absolutely agree.

lmao he already made a new thread after being found

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>venn diagram that doesn't overlap

If steam had a monopoly this discussion wouldn't even happen because Epic/GOG and other crap wouldn't have a storefront.

and just like with actual pepsi and coke, steam is better
waow

It doesn't matter if an exclusive became that way through bribery, enticement, or any other reason; it is still an exclusive to consumers.

Why the double-standards for Steam when they have exclusives, then? You wouldn't be a corporatist shill, now, would you?

MUH MONOPOLYIES

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Epic Games is playing 5D chess and if you don't see it then you're a moron.

Yes it does matter.
You say it doesn't matter because you are an Epic marketeer, and Epic is literally the only one desperate enough to bribe.

It's a timed exclusive, it doesn't benefit consumers in any way. Just pisses people off.

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Fuck, I forgot Desura was a thing. I have like 60 games on there.

Uplay, Microsoft Store, Blizzardnet, Bethesda Store, and Origin don't have user reviews, which is what you tards cry at Epic about

*Had

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Explain how. I'll wait, even though I know you literally can't.

At least edit it so the dead game stores aren't on there, I can't use this trash
You have 0 games there

you don't need reviews when you know the games are shit

Because it means that devs will enter a war in seeing who can bribe harder instead of who can develop better features for their launcher.
One benefits the consumers, the other does not.

>Timed Epic exclusive
>Bad
>Lifetime Steam exclusive
>No problem here!
Why are Valve cucks such hypocrites?

It's missing a lot of them, get the isthereanydeal list.

Amazon, GoG, literally anywhere else that you can buy games online. It's a fucking storefront, there are thousands of them.

>Microsoft store
>No user reviews

Hey guys, it seems the shill is breaking apart.

>Devs received absolutely no compensation for being Steam exclusive like they do when they work with Epic - boy, don't you feel stupid?
-Average Steam drone response

You mean games Valve themselves made?
Epic is the only one who bribes.
You know why?
Because Epic has no games.
Fortunately, this has ruined their reputation and killed their stillborn launcher.

Name 1 (one) game dev that has signed an exclusivity deal with steam

>Lifetime Steam exclusive
Name one.

>obese gook shills unironically defending bribing
Why would you do this unless you are a paid marketeer?

>epic is the pepsi
because it tastes like shit?

Star systems are not user reviews, otherwise Netflix has user reviews

>mods deleted the other thread
Absolutely based.
Fuck the marketeers.

See: You guys are predictable. I might as well setup fly tape to catch you guys

So in your opinion, being exclusive to Steam because it's the only relevant store (Dark Souls for example) is... better than being paid by Epic?

What games has a life time exclusivity on Steam?
Answer the question instead of dodging it.

>you guys are predictable
As opposed to the ones who spam the exact same pics over and over?

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Why didn't you predict the Tiananmen Square Massacre, though?

Issue with Steam competition is that until Epic came around there was like a decade or two of everyone else barely even trying to beat Steam as a general vidya store. Unless Epic actually has features that Steam doesn't have that actually matters towards the 99.99999+% of users that aren't gamedevs. At minimum it should 1:1 Steam on top of the 12% cut before it could actually threaten Steam in a meaningful fashion.

common sense and the success of the studio so far

Name one.
Stop dodging the god damn question, you inbred monkey.
Name one single fucking steam exclusive, right now.

I don't give a fuck.
I'll buy and pirate whatever I want from whatever I want to.

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GOG is. Epic is just cheap corn syrup lemonade.
>Nobody worries about GoG taking market share from Steam for example
I've bought several games on GoG that I would've bought on Steam otherwise, especially games that I want to work 100% without any third-party bs.

Quit baiting faggot. You can only dish out strawmans and never reply to any of the shit calling you wrong

>common sense and the success of the studio so far

People thought Telltale was successful too. What if Pyre wasn't a success?

There are over 30 thousand games on steam, how many are on epic?

Steam was just a Valve + premium indie store for the majority of its life and I'd say it was a major factor in the golden age of indie games and put PC back on the map, AAA games only came relatively recently when consoles became glorified budget PCs so porting is easier.

> Microsoft Store,
> don't have user reviews
They do.
The rest are launchers for their games, I mean - who ACTUALLY build non-Ubi game library on Uplay, with dozens of games? Please. The only stores that try to compete are Epic store and MS store, not like MS are trying, I mean, they do, but not aggressively, since they have the monopoly on the OS. Gog and humble store are kinda there, but they aren't competing, they have their own niche.
The only reason for Epic to not sponsor game creation in a honest way is their inability to create a 100% hit. Fortnite is once in a lifetime opportunity, they know it and that's why they're playing dirty. But it's not like the rest of publishers are going to surrender their profits to Epic and give them the good game.
Metro Exodus has shown how Deep Silver knew it's not a good game, that's why they sold it.

store.steampowered.com/app/428880/The_Quest/

Find it on another store

>Games aren't features of a launcher, only social media bloatware is
L M A O

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I just asked you to name one steam store exclusive. Which you can't, because they don't exist. There are plenty of other relevant storefronts that many games use- Amazon, GoG, the Humble storefront, itch.io, hell, you can fucking buy games online from normal retailers like Walmart these days and get a digital key for it.

You don't see Steam trying to use exclusive contracts, nor do you see fucking Amazon store exclusives, Humble exclusives, etc. The developers should have freedom to release their games on whatever storefront they see fit. Demanding otherwise does nothing for the consumer. I don't know where this idea of steam somehow being the only storefront even fucking comes from.

It's only "social media bloatware" because Epic doesn't have it.
And what games?
Epic only has 20, and they are all shovelware.

Still, what the fuck does Epic have that Steam lacks? the 12% cut sounds cool until you realize that on Steam for example there are 3-5 million users online everyday and there are only like...10000 gamedevs?

play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=hu.redshift.thequest&hl=en_US
Also:
gog.com/forum/general/wow_gog_turned_down_the_quest_for_being_too_niche/page1

Based 'lack of values' poster.

There's a difference between the developers choosing not to release on other storefronts and signing an exclusivity deal, honey

No, I mean third party exclusives, like CoD MW2 through CoD WWII, for instance. Hell, even Activision is getting out of Steam's monopoly with Black Ops 4. Good for them!

>GoG turned down one of the best RPGs

And people call that shit competition?

>spamming chink shill doesn't know the definition monopoly
>spamming chink shill doesn't know the definition of bloatware
Why are you so retarded?

Why?

Dark Souls 2

Because those third parties chose not to release on others.
And yes, COD is out of Steam and on Activision's launcher, yet another competitor that Epic will have a hard time against.

I'm still waiting for the big thing they are going to do to actually convince me, as a simple consumer and not a developer, to start using their store. So far they did nothing.
The developer revenue thing literally has nothing to do with me and I couldn't care less.

Because the entire uproar about Epic's cancer hinges on this fact.
No one cares if Epic sells their own games through their own store or even if they fund games to be sold through their own store, what people hate is Epic paying for developers to remove their games from other stores to keep a monopoly on those games and forcefully shove themselves into the market with their closed garden cancer.

As predicted, no argument from Valve cucks, just gookposting like every other time they get backed into a corner LMAO

stop viral marketing the world's worst drinks

Coca-cola, Pepsi, and Nestle are responsible for 49% of Global pollution, and each of those corporations deserves capital punishment

>turned down for being too niche
Oh I am laffing

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>you guys are hypocrites
>prove it
>why?

No shit? Kind of like Deep Silver CHOOSING not to release on others? Are you brain damaged, son?

Pepsi is absolute NIGGER shit tier.

>things that benefit the consumer bad
>things that benefit only the publishers good
Sad!

What argument is there to be had about your post? You just called something "bloatware" when it isn't bloatware by any definition so all that's left is calling you a retard.

>steam was a monopoly

Except gog, origin,, uplay etc all existed for years

They literally can't. They can only take games you might buy hostage and push impatience on people to cave in. Once you buy one game you'll buy others.

They didn't, they were bribed.
Hell, the PC cases of Metro Exodus have a Steam logo on them.
That's how desperate Epic is, even though the launcher just came out.

>Because those third parties chose not to release on others.
And that's the problem dumbshit.

Shit, you're right
It while we're sitting ere arguing about video games the real bad guys are laughing all the way to the bank

thanks for the reminder, user

>Steam is a monopoly
Holy fuck you're dumb

You're wrong but we need to pretend that you're right to stop retarded Twitter drones from coming here

Why does it matter, though?

Also, isn't it hypocritical to say a developer's own launcher exclusivity is fine but a third party isn't? Why is it suddenly not their choice where their game is sold anymore?

OP here, thanks for the replies dumb fuck.

You're completely fucking delusional if you think Steam hasn't been doing this garbage for a decade.

The absolute chasm of difference is that Epic approached them with exclusivity money to force a monopoly.
How is that beneficial to anyone and how is it in any way equal to what Steam does aka fucking nothing at all?

>452252889
>new IP
Not even going to give you a real (You)

>drinking pepsi
>unironically

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Prove that steam was doing it then.
Or fuck off you commie

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I'm sure if they've been bribing developers to exclusively sell on their store then evidence of that fact should be easy to find, then. Probably shouldn't take you more than ten minutes to find an example. I'll wait.

Signing contracts has nothing to do with exclusivity, though. Did Valve sign a contract with itself to release DotA 2 exclusively on Steam? You'll certainly have to elaborate on this one, kiddo.

And they chose to take the bribe.
Steam's shill quality is really going down the drain lately fucking christ.

>virtually
key word which invalidates your entire post

they have competition just the competition isnt good enough for you to acknoledge so you claim there is VIRTUALLY no competition

Exactly, they got bribed, because no one would choose to release an Ebin exclusively willingly.

>Still no proof of your claim

Find evidence of it or fuck off.

>Signing contracts has nothing to do with exclusivity
It's literally the only thing people are upset about, so yes, it does. You're really not very smart, are you?

How is a timed-exclusive pig-skin for your Steam profile "pro-consumer"? Can I buy this on Amazon? Whoops, guess it's anti-competitive cancer!

>Why does it matter, though?
Because exclusivity is pure anti-consumer, anti-competitive cancer? Why would it not matter?

>Why is it suddenly not their choice where their game is sold anymore?
Read the post you're replying to more carefully.
What Epic is doing is setting up their little monopolistic closed garden which WON'T lead to cheaper games or better services since they are purposefully disconnecting themselves from the free market, everything they are doing is to exactly avoid a competition of services.

>epic gook accusing others of shilling
>when we have ENDLESS proof of thread spam desperate to convince anyone to use Epic's stillborn launcher

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OP here, I'm a fag.

How is it bloatware and how does it damage your "experience" at all if you don't care about it?
These are not rhetorical questions, I want them answered by you.

This one is going directly into the cringe collection. Thanks for the laugh.

both suck cocks

No, I'm the real OP.

Oh look, the poor gook doesn't even know the purpose of memes and just writes whatever is in his notes about gaijing catchphrases.

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Fake news, I'm the real OP.

What the fuck is the Tiananmen Square Massacre.

Just tell me what Epic offers GAMERS over Steam.

No apparently I'm the actual OP

>virtually no competition
>virtually
>argument literally boils down to "I think Steam is actually a monopoly, because it's almost but not quite a monopoly"
I hate you fucking illiterates.

if furrys don't fuck discord, and that is a 97.8% possibility, then discord will probably replace steam

Stop this shit, I owned the monopoly of OP.

Its feels like Yea Forums in here.

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Steam drones, Yea Forumstards - same diff

Big protests against the commie government kept on escalating until the government killed thousands of them to get them to shut the fuck up, don't tell me you don't know this fucking pic you zoomer.

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FUCK YOU GAIJIN INSTALL EPIC RAUNCHER

>"YOU'RE AN *AD HOMINEM* IF YOU DON'T THINK THE WAY I DO"

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Does that make epic drones, reddit?

>implying that's somehow a bad thing
newfag out

You moved the goalposts I see

What's so bad about it?

Before Epic
>Release on Steam exclusively and gain $50k due to their marketshare
After Epic
>Release on Epic exclusively and gain $50k due to bribe and very low cut

Both are "anti-consumer exclusive cancer", but Valve gets a free pass because "I already have 500 games in muh Steam library" or "I don't want to install a million launchers!"

Don't make me laugh, kiddo.

steam droned ARE the reddit drones
visit PCMR for example

I still doesn't know which one is the real OP.

WHY YOU NO PRAY FONITE
PRAY FONITE GAIJIN FUCK WHITE PRAY FONITE

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Except there's no reason at all to sell exclusively on Steam and everyone just releases on all relevant stores, how did that even make any sense in your head?

Yep, this one's going too!

I don't see traps or lolis, so no.

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Make up your mind pls, I'm Confucius

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>you're all illiterates because I'm an overly pedantic contrarian with low self-esteem looking for low hanging fruit to make me feel better
Fucking dead lmao

>mfw have to live in fear of Epic taking games I was going to buy hostage weeks before release

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We can change that.

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You guys doesn't understand, i'm the real OP

what 3rd party exclusives did Steam pay for?

Didn't most of the games have Steam codes for you? Only game I bought on there was Bloody Trapland and it gave me a Steam key when they were shutting down.

>being this triggered by the fact that words have meanings
You can't just make categorically false statements and then call others pedantic when they point out that you're lying.

>Actually comparing Coke to Pepsi
Pepsi is like drinking rusty dirt water found at a metalwork factory, at least Coke has some zest to it. So pretty apt analogy.

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Play Apex Legends instead
A pure-blooded American game.

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>Still pretending to be me.

Nice! Now we only need someone who can post instagram girls and this thread will be Yea Forums incarnated.

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Yeah, I guess that's why Activision made Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2, Call of Duty: Black Ops, Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3, Call of Duty: Black Ops II, Call of Duty: Ghosts, Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare, Call of Duty: Black Ops III, Call of Duty: Infinite Warfare and Call of Duty: WWII Steam exclusives.

L M A O

Coke and pepsi taste the same, 2 sides of the same coin except it's a misprinted coin that has the same side on both. One is just less detailed I.E lacking features

GOG is the only actually smart Steam competitor since they enforce no DRM and no key selling, everyone else are either just steam key whores or are just completely inferior services with their only leverage being holding some games hostage.

There you go.

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>all this time wasted on arguing over Big Corporation Versus Big Corporation
>people are still going to continue using Epic because it has Fortnite
>people are still going to continue using Steam because it has more games overall
>I'm still going to use GOG because its games are actually DRM-free
get fucked, everyone

>I'm only pretending to be obtuse!
That's some real sad shit, user!

STOP WASTING MY FREE (YOU) ON FAKE OP!

Why don't you email Gabe and ask him, user. He is your employer, right?

Who's the Monster Energy of video games?

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>dodging the question
what 3rd party exclusives did Steam pay for?

You go ask them why they made it Steam exclusives and it won't be any pressure on Steam's side, the most likely reason is because they're too lazy to update their games on several stores which isn't Steam's fault.

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Stop this shit.

>at least Coke has some zest to it.
That's the acid literally disintegrating your mouth

The attempts at shilling on this board are really pathetic.

>How do you do, fellow capitalists? Competition is good for consumers, right? Therefore we must put Steam out of business!
>Look stupid American pigs, Epic Store is gaining popularity! That means its competitor Steam is an evil monopoly!
>Epic gives more money to publishers and the savings aren't passed on to the consumer! Gamers like that, right?

They don't even understand the ideas they're trying to use to sell their product. I guess that's the consequence of dumb commies trying to shove their way into a free market.

Still waiting for a reply.

based and jarharpilled

NO U!

You won't get one, the chinks have hanged themselves.

>Therefore we must put Steam out of business!

Only stupid, retarded, Steam fanboys think it's about doing this.

>one of the biggest video games publishers in the industry is just too lazy to update their games
Yea Forums is 18+, kiddo

But before you get banned, mind elaborating on how your statement is relevant in any way to the discussion at hand?

Why people suddenly want to be OP in this thread?

the funny thing is the shill still cant answer what 3rd party games Valve payed exlusivity for
hell responed with either of these 3 canned responses
>HALF LIFE IS EXCLUSIVE 3RD OR 1ST PARTY DONT MATTER
>CONSOLES DO IT TOO
>*no response*

Because OP is a fag.

While you retards argue about which store to give money to, us pirate chads are going to be downloading whatever we want (and working on our backlog otherwise, we have all the time in the world).

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hey if OP wants to be OP again he can buy the exclusivity off me

The bigger a company is the more bloated its processes are and the more penny-pinching there is since they have to streamline things as much as possible to keep costs down, you can blame it on clueless execs and a disorganized work environment where someone didn't bother making a good updating process.

What do you think is the reason why they don't release the game on more stores? Paid exclusivity is out of the picture since we know Steam doesn't do that.

>the funny thing is the shill still cant answer what 3rd party games Valve payed exlusivity for hell responed with either of these 3 canned responses

Can someone translate this garbled ESL trash for me, please? Is this some sort of chink falseflag operation to make Valve cucks look bad or are they really just this retarded?

Everyone want to be the coolest guy in this thread.

But user, Taiwan is already free

AHH HELP ME EPIC MY GARBAGE INDIE GAME ISN'T SELLING BECAUSE GABE DIDN'T MAKE A PERSONAL VIDEO OF HIM SHILLING MY GAME IT ISN'T FAIR BROS

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OP, is that you?

>Epic shills always say all the other storefronts are irrelevant so they don't have to address the fact that they already provided choice for consumers, never paid for third-party exclusives, just about all of them are better than the Epic Games Store, and all of them also take 30% per sale but apparently aren't evil for it like Steam

Epic, simply Epic

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>this thread
youtube.com/watch?v=u93bhAimFFU

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OP here
what should i go cook with my newfound gutter oil

Real OP here.
Stop ruining my social credit.

Yooooooo I just had a real brainstorm. What if what if Steam had a branch called "GamerFood" where you can spend wallet money for products that have a contract with them sometimes even getting discounts on Coca-Cola, Mountdew. Dorritos and so forth?

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Because Amazon Pantry already exists.

Definition of a monopoly in business is when an entity is the only supplier of a specific commodity.

Valve is not and has never been a monopoly, they simply hold the dominant position in the market currently.

Epic however is actually trying to establish a monopoly. Epic are forcing games onto the Epic store while trying to deny any other stores from selling them. This is the act of a monopoly.
The only reason Epic are not considered a monopoly right now is simply because they're not the dominant company right now, Valve is. Were Epic and Valves positions swapped but Epic were still doing what they do now (buying exclusivity), they'd literally be a monopoly.

Valve
>officially supports GNU/Linux
>funds free software projects that let GNU/Linux users run the latest Windows games with only a minor performance hit, sometimes not even that if the game uses Vulkan
>integrates these projects into the Steam client, effectively porting the majority of their massive library of games to GNU/Linux without those games' developers having to lift a finger
>realizes the value of the open x86 PC platform and the danger of it turning into walled gardens beholden to Microsoft and Apple; this is the whole motivation behind their push for GNU/Linux

Epic
>Linux? Sorry, we only support PC and Mac.

no im OP
ill prove it by posting about the Tiananma

70% discount at Summer Sale or Christmas? It could work if enough people buy junkfood

You fucking piece of shit, stop ruining my thread.

>Epic
>>Linux? Sorry, we only support PC and Mac.
All while Tim Sweeney was shitting on Microsoft a few years ago for UWP apps

Activision had been using Steam exclusively because they got the best cut and could not compete with Steam's stranglehold on the market for PC digital distribution at the time. All future PC CoD games are now Battle.net exclusive because they make more money using their in-house launcher. The times are a-changing, kiddo.

Wrong, this is my thread since I'm the real OP.

no you stop ruining MY thread, faker

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>because they got the best cut
Nope.

>could not compete with Steam's stranglehold on the market for PC digital distribution at the time
How is that relevant to them not selling on other stores that exist? Are you living in an alternate reality where the market doesn't have dozens of stores? Why is it only either Steam or only Battle.net? Why not sell the game in several stores like the vast majority of publishers do?

>this fucking thread.

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hey guys OP here
im real sorry, i should approach you guys more inbiased about the many PC storefronts, to make up leave your email in the reply to get a coupon for a free 3 meal course at Asiaworld

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Epic Store could use Proton patches for free

Every once in a while they'll also pretend Epic is competing against Steam as it was a decade ago. It's fucking bizarre.

And you're too retarded to realise certain features would take time to implement and Epic store just launched

the 30% cut is the industry standard

Great, we'll consider Epic an option when it reaches that point. Until then fuck off.

OH NO NO NO NO NO

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Well maybe Epic should have waited until their store was actually up to current-day standards before launching then

epic game store is more on the level of itch.io, it's more like the sam's choice cola of digital storefronts

>This user is checking twitch every day for view points on games
Sad.

>>This user is checking twitch every day for view points on games
>Sad.

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you niggers need to look up the definition of a monopoly.

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If you look up monopoly in the dictionary, you'll find a picture of Steam

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>GOG is bad because it's not making corporations money by screwing over customers

ROR! (or translated from chinese, LOL!)

user, you should stop using words you don't understand.

>Defiling Pepsi like that
Do not insult the wonder drink like that.

>Dictionary
>Pictures
This explains a lot about your lack of vocabulary user.

>It's ok if we do it because Steam does it too
None of it is ok, Chang, but there's no evidence that Steam does this.

Epic shouldn't be taking any money from devs, and should be doing this solely for the sake of helping devs out. No profit allowed whatsoever. After all, steam is the devil because they take money, and capitalism is evil, right?

Based Epic saving PC games from Valve's vile grasp.

>Nope.
Not an argument

>Why is it only either Steam or only Battle.net? Why not sell the game in several stores like the vast majority of publishers do?
Because they get the best cut. It's the reason all the big publishers with the means to do so have their own launcher now.

I could sell all of my apples at various grocery stores and give the stores a large cut of my profits, but I have special apples and I know that people will travel to MY store to get them. It's a no brainer that I'm selling my special apples at my store because I make more money overall.

I shouldn't have to explain this concept to anyone on an 18+ board.

>This place is literally just alt-groupthink
It's exactly the opposite. If you go against popular opinion here your ideas get more exposure and your positions are fleshed out. It is exactly the opposite of groupthink. The place you're thinking of is another website.

Coke isn't worried about Pepsi, in the US Coke and Pepsi are relatively close in sales, but worldwide Coke is untouchable.

>Because they get the best cut.
They don't, where are you taking this from? The usual shill argument is that Steam is literally the devil because they have a higher cut.
Why are so utterly ignorant and yet still tries to act like you know what the fuck you are talking about?

It will always be chink spyware

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You forgot to mention that most games can only be played through Steam, thus rendering your point about it being not a monopoly as uneffective.

Why should Epic give a fuck about Linuxfags?

You are wrong.

Chink education everyone.

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>Epic Games literally saving PC gaming from Valve by incentizing PC gamers to switch over to Epic Games Store
>Yea Forums gets angry about this

Metro isn't epics game you retard.
They paid for it and screwed over consumers for profit.

Name one thing that Epic has for players over Steam.

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>screwed over consumers
you mean they screwed over steamfags, because they actually sell more on epic store

For one, they're not oppressive tyrants unlike Valve.

GOG, amazon, humble bundle, physical stores, the developers own launcher.

Steam does not have exclusivity contracts, so it is not preventing a game from being sold anywhere else. Games that the develop/publisher choose to only launch on steam is not steams fault, steam does not trying to get this exclusivity, it just provides a good platform for people to use.

Monopoly is having exclusivity over something. While you could argue steam has monopoly on certain games that can not be bought anywhere else (though im almost certain pretty much everything on steam apart from valves own games are buyable from GoG etc), epic is a legally enforced monopoly with its exclusivity contracts.

What the fuck are you even talking about? How did Valve "oppress" anyone?

>[GOG users laugh in the background]

Epic has a monopoly on metro Exodus
Steam doesn't have any monopoly, beacuse devs still can release the game on other stores

And how does that affect me, the player?

Gog doesnt buy exclusivity deals and offers a reason to use it for certain ganes over steam

free relevant games every month
eat a cock fag

Now now, no need to get so angry, Timmy. Try to pay attention.

Once upon a time, when you were an even smaller child than you are now, Steam had the best cut. Not only did they have the best cut, but also the biggest userbase of any PC games storefront- and many of those users flat out refused to use any other service because they were conditioned into using the only viable option for a long time. For a long time, you basically couldn't release a successful game without going through Steam.

The reason everyone is throwing a shit-fit today is because Valve's stranglehold is being threatened and the conditioned children are having a rough time being weaned off Gabe's teet.

When a company is in control of the monopoly, they start doing things like demanding exclusives, a higher cut, and trying their damnest to kill off any and all competition. You know, all being things that Valve has been doing.

Oh, so you admit that Valve are tyrants?

>because they actually sell more on epic store
Who does??? The consumer sells more??
What are you talking about you retard.
Also source or fuck off.
Also epic is spyware
Also epic launcher sucks compared to steam and games there are more expensive.

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It's a good thing GOG has none of these issues. LMAO @ DRM babies.

Pepsi and Coke are both owned by an american corporation.

as opposed to valve being an american corporation and Epic Games with it's chinamen 41% ownership. Making it a defacto foothold for the Chinese in the gaming market. The hate Epic recieves isn't not store verses store. This is a culture against culture. West vs East

find a better comparison OP because this one is shit

>Steam had the best cut.
Yes when they were only the only store around but not when others came up to compete with them, if you actually bothered following the reply chain you would understand that we are talking about Activision selling their games exclusively on Steam, games as new as CoD WWII which is from 2017, a year with dozens of stores with better cuts than Steam.

>but also the biggest userbase of any PC games storefront- and many of those users flat out refused to use any other service because they were conditioned into using the only viable option for a long time. For a long time, you basically couldn't release a successful game without going through Steam.
Nothing of this is relevant to the fact that they could have released the games on both Steam and all other shops like everyone else did.
Why didn't they? Why did Activision decide to act like that when other publishers don't? How is that Steam's fault?

>The reason everyone is throwing a shit-fit today is because Valve's stranglehold is being threatened
Why do you think no one complains about the dozens of other stores but is only complaining about the store that forcefully removed games from other stores and is trying to build up to be a cancerous monopoly?

But they dont take 30% on all games

>another "Steam is/was a monopoly" post
Kill yourself.

"A monopoly (from Greek μόνος mónos ["alone" or "single"] and πωλεῖν pōleîn ["to sell"]) exists when a specific person or enterprise is the only supplier of a particular commodity."
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monopoly

Main problem with GOG is it doesn't have the games.

more like coke vs some india made 3rd world drink that is laced with lead

I can't tell if this is sarcasm or not, Valve doesn't do any of that.

>the ones strong arming absolute exclusivity rights are the good guys :^)
>the ones who simply try to attract users by having good features, they are tyrants!

>demanding exclusives
Source or fuck off
This is what epic is doing you reatrd

Because the Steambabies lost an exclusive to Epic and you nu faggots get triggered by Fortnite every single day.

>oh no, GOG enforces quality control and doesn't sign exclusivity deals, how horrible

Allow me to toss you another LMAO, kiddo.

How so? Do you understand that we wouldn't even be having this thread if Valve actually tried to stop competition? I don't think you understand how cancerous actual monopolies are or what a monopoly even is.

>valve gathering hardware information and detecting aimbots is the same as scanning every file on your computer and sending telemetry data back to Jinny the Pooh himself

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exclusives are bad for gaming, all platforms will spend their money and effort bidding on exclusivity deals instead of trying to attract users with better features and services so publishers choose them.

Metro Exodus was available on many stores like all their previous games, fucking consolebaby moron.

Looking forward to when Epic Games makes every single PC game of worth exclusive to their store. Steamtards getting triggered will be the best thing ever.

>Valve/Steam demands exclusivity!
>Meanwhile, at Epic...
fucking paid chink bots I swear

But you shills keep bragging about all that fortnight money you got and can't even have a storefront that EA of all things wipes the floor with it and Origin is still shit compared to steam.

This is Yea Forums, where "monopoly" apparently means "the biggest of many big companies in a given market."

I fucking hate everyone in this thread, by the way.

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>I can't wait to give all my money directly to communist china
Have fun, I'm sure you won't hear a complaint from them.

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Is GoG RC cola then?

GoG is root beer.

Or Monster Energy.

Their DRM is worthless so I'll just keep on pirating everything.

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Not the same user but some dictionaries come with pictures

means more actual consumer (instead of steamdrones) get to play the game. maybe because they cost less, maybe they're able to reach out to more consumers.
just google

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It explains a lot about you because it's clear you never picked up a dictionary book in your life.

Except it was cheaper on Razer store before Epic forced them to take it down.

>when developers choose to put their game only on steam it's a monopoly
>when developers choose to put their game only on epic it's competition
epic shills unironically believe this

I don't think you understand what exclusive control of a particular commodity leads to.
Pro-tip: It doesn't lead to lower prices or better services

>visit results
>"most of these sales are a result of the Ps4. We have no idea how much the epic store version has sold"

I bet you think you're clever, don't you?

Even worse, it's more like
>when developers choose to put their game on multiple stores including Steam, so that consumers can choose where to buy the game, it's a monopoly
>when developers are paid to put their game only on Epic so it can't be sold anywhere else, it's competition

It's such a weird world view.

piratebay

Do you really believe that?

>Metro Exodus Physical Sales 50% Ahead Of Metro Last Light
Man, I didn't know that you were able to buy physical and use the disc with epic games store instead of it being a glorified key just so you can download the game from their storefront. Oh and only in a select few places is the epic store cheaper than steam.

Zoomers are entering large scale shitposting wars over DIGITAL DISTRIBUTORS
What the fuck happened to humans in the past decade
Imagine if we got into huge shitposting wars about Gamestop and Walmart back in the day

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>Fitgirl repack

What are you doing user?

I am being 100% unironic when I say that this multiple storefront shit is making me consider just dropping PC
I'm not going to split up my library among multiple digital-only launchers where most of them will inevitably die off and leave me without access to my games
That in combination with rising hardware prices, worse games, and worse DRM is poisoning the platform.

This. Making the game available everywhere DOES NOT HELP ANYONE, because it's still on Steam. Exclusivity is the only way to combat Valve's monopolistic grip on the market.

It seems like the epic chink doesn't even know what a monopoly is

You posted articles about UK physical sales across all platforms, and physical is irrelevant on PC.

Naturally Metro Exodus will sell more than the previous ones since it got a much higher budget and hype, but basic logic will tell you that it would have sold more if it were available on more stores.

lol

>This. Making the game available everywhere DOES NOT HELP ANYONE
Oh my god you're actually so dumb you think his point is working in your favor of defending Epic's shitty practices

>Fight a sort-of monopoly with a different monopoly that has no good exclusive games
Brilliant

EA was supposed to save Steam... Apex Legend... was supposed to stop Fortnite...

No... nooo... NOOOOOOOOO - STOP PLAYING FORTNITE

EPIC STORE CANNOT WIN

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What about making a better product than steam?

Physical store exclusive DLCs are a thing and naturally everyone hates it, it's only one particularly spammy shitposter that has been trying to force this dumb digital store war meme.

>It doesn't lead to lower prices
except they did exactly that and dropped $10 off the price tag

VaIvedrones are so fucking pathetic.

>He doesn't remember the bullshit of specific retailer pre-order bonuses that nobody liked

I completely agree that Steam having a competitor is a good thing. That being said, I really don't want to install another launcher. Luckily Epic doesnt have any good games yet

>means more actual consumer (instead of steamdrones) get to play the game.

It was on almost every store before epic bought it you retard
It means less people will play it.
Not having choice doesn't benefit the customer in any way you idiot

>maybe because they cost less,
They cost more

Also post sale numbers or fuck off

>maybe they're able to reach out to more consumers.
By selling in one store instead of many?
Commie economics.

Zoomers were all given an IQ reducing drug at birth for an easier to govern populace

>Valve's monopolistic grip on the market.
No such thing you either have a monopoly or you don't

both are american owned. It isn't about stores in the simple sense. It's generally about keeping china out of the gaming industry, they have a foothold with Epic and in every other industry they have acted subversively in this way. A lot of people hate the Chinese dude. Has more to do with decades of trade policy spilling into peoples general hatred of poor buisness practices. People are well aware how shitty chinese buisness culture is. It's not even a generational thing. Grandfather might hate the chinese, then his son might hate them for similar reason bringing us to now with zoomers hating on their shit given recent current events involving China.

Basically it's about china, not the store itself

Why do that when you can just introduce shitty console based pettiness into the market?

see Also Metro leaving Steam made it several times more expensive for me since Epic doesn't have regional pricing, their monopoly is actively damaging my experience I can't avoid it since it's a monopoly.

except they didn't and it costs more than 60$

THEN WHY NOT PUT IT EVERYWHERE *EXCEPT* STEAM? WOULD SHARING IT WITH GOG DESTROY YOUR PLAN?

china owns steam as well you literal retard lmao
zoomers, not even ONCE

No it doesn't, Valve is a private company owned by blue-blooded AMERICANS

So when can I buy Metro from GMG for about $45 like I do for all my new PC games?

sucks being you

>Why do you think no one complains about the dozens of other stores
Because they aren't real competition. Epic is actually a threat, so Valve needs to unleash it's horde of chinese shills across the internet to run damage control. It's fucking embarrassing.

>China owns steam
(You)

Origin is unironically better than Steam.

better sales, free games given out at random, more responsive customer service, cheap-ass subscription service.

No it doesn't you retard
Gabe does

>Because they aren't real competition.
What makes them not real competition? Stuff like GOG and Origin have much higher market shares than Epic does.

"The funny thing is the anti-Valve shill in this thread can't answer which 3rd party games Valve paid to keep only on Steam. You know, the thing the shill claims Valve does and should be easy to prove.

Instead, the shill will likely only respond with either
>HALF LIFE IS EXCLUSIVE, IT DOESN'T MATTER THAT IT'S NOT THIRD PARTY
>CONSOLES DO EXCLUSIVES SO VALVE OBVIOUSLY DOES TOO

Instead of answering the question."

>china owns steam
>Valve is a 100% privately owned company
Really makes you think

>Valve
>chinese shills
What world have I been transported to?

blue-blooded americans who partner with Perfect World

steam isnt a monopoly because of isthereanydeal

>Monopolies are bad!
>EPIC monopolizing games is good!
This is why no-one takes EPIC shills seriously, Epic never even tried to compete with steam.

>Epicshill calling anyone Chinese shills

Literally no products worth buying, LMAO indeed.

They got like 5 fucking games, and they all suck

Nice argument shill

Owner Gabe Newell (50%)[2]
what do you think the other 50% is lmao

when GMG works out a deal with Epic? idk ask them

Then where's Valve's excuse to not make Half-Life available on every distribution platform if they're so against exclusivity?
Why?
Because Valve are hypocrites. Morally inferior to Epic.

China enforces a monopoly (woah) on games, they don't allow foreign companies to release games there without going through a chinese company and Valve was smart to keep their partnership limited to this and nothing else.

>>EPIC monopolizing games is good!

Steam will still be around though, I don't see it going away anytime soon.

Well, Valve has been pandering to china quite hard recently. But they're definitely still very much american, and american owned.

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it's not the same, tencent has 41% ownership of epic. That is entirely too much for some people because it is considered to be a soft foothold in the industry. In typical chink fashion they'll wait to strike when people aren't paying attention abd buy up more of the company, giving them power to actually mess with shit in a real way. Again, this is documented behavior in other industries so people are learning...

fyi they are talking about the console sales not the pc ones you turbo autist

WTF Epic Games Store is the best?

And?
Steam still isn't a monopoly

HL1 could so easily be on GoG

Hey Steam shills, what's keeping HL1 from GOG?

>timbot calling anyone an hypocrite

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they already own 99% of game dev companies you retard
name a dev
tencent owns a % of it

Aside from Source/Source 2 games I'm not seeing much that Steam has that Origin doesn't.

It has nothing to do with china
it has nothing to do with metro
it has nothing to do with steam or epic

exclusivity contracts are bad for the consumer because they shift all profit reinvestment away from improving the platform to attract more consumers, but towards bidding on exclusivity contracts

Valve

way to just shitpost dude, get out of here. you don't know what you're talking about or you're being intentionally disingenious

ok, nice side-step, but how are marketplace exclusives good? Metro devs had no say in their game getting pulled from steam, it was all the publisher. That extra cut for the devs tagline is bullshit, the publisher gets its hands on the cash first and cuts the devs the same percentage they would have gotten had the game been released on Steam.

>dev

>Employees have receive stock or stock options as part of their compensation, and are therefore part owners of the company. It seems likely that the executives and the long-term employees of the company own most of the stock

Not chinks that's for sure

>B-BUT EPIC
IRRELEVANT.
This does not make Valve less of a hypocritical host of swines for being against exclusivity while making all of their games exclusive to Steam.

it does if you dislike chinese business practices, culture, behavior, strategy, etc

geopolitical shit, it's why everyone complains about china becoming a super power

and how is that Epic's fault? that's entirely on the publisher

Beacuse valve developed hl?
Are you brain dead?

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There are self published indies on Epic Store like Hades.

Does this guy look like a publisher to you?

youtu.be/7V4UPiBOshY?t=92

1:32

>We got cash money for the exclusivity deal

>but what if
Shut up

I don't think people understand what a miracle it is that Valve and CDPR are the biggest players around, it's rare for actually pro-consumer companies to have a big sway in a market and if we relied on cancer like EA and Epic then PC gaming would be completely dead closed garden cancer.

>Star systems are not user reviews, otherwise Netflix has user reviews
Netflix removed all form of user reviews to hide the fact that most of their original content has being rated poorly.

there is no problem with a developer using their own launcher for their game. In fact i tend to prefer standalone launchers. It just happens that valve used its launcher as a store for others to publish on as well.

And that matters, how? That does not excuse making it exclusive to their platform while at the same time claiming to be against exclusivity.

Epic approached them with the exclusivity deal to begin and legally bound them to not release the game on other stores, how is that not Epic's fault?

fuck green properties

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>set up bait
>idiot takes it
>nuh uh he took the bait it's not my fault even though I set it up in the first place

The publisher paid for the game so they deserve the money dumb steam shill

they could've just refused? It's a deal, which means both sides agreed.

No one cares about first party shit in the same way no one cared about Fortnite being Epic-only, why is this suddenly a problem and only for Valve's games?

>Today user learns the difference between first-party exclusives and third-party exclusives (that weren't financed by the platform holder)

No one gives a fuck if Epic only releases first party titles on their storefront. That's their right. What people are pissed about is Epic paying third party studies to make their games exclusive to their storefront.

You could have at least TRIED putting some effort into your falseflagging

Valve fanboys never learn.

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How does that make it not Epic's fault? How is it in any way positive?

That wasn't the argument keep moving the goalpost chang

epic simply gives more options. the publisher could still go to steam and sell the game there.

the irony is that paying for exclusivity is an actual tactic in monopolies.

I understand now. By introducing runaway exclusivity contract competition the chinese want to consume all rate of profit and cause video games to crash entirely so they are no longer around as a form of escapism. This will lead to civil unrest and stability in the west as the people rise up against their governments. This is when china will make its move.

It's their game you retard.
Why wouldn't they skip the middle-man and get 100% of the profits?
Nobody cares that fortnite is on epic launcher.
It's their game.
Metro isn't

That's plain Sad epicshills couldn't make their own memes so they just edit sony nintendo and mircosoft bro memes

How is not being able to sell your game on other stores "more options"?

Beacuse they are schooling the chinks

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>either you release on our store only or you can forget about that bonus

>choose epic's deal and get more money but exclusive
>choose steam and sell them but miss out on epic money
that's two options instead of one

>he says while recommending pixel trash and subnautica because his drm clients shill it to him

Wow that's like some finna... sorta... competition.

But because I'm a steam drone, I'll declare that's not competitive because Valve loses

So now the goal post moved from "it's not Epic's fault they signed a contract to not sell the game anywhere else" to "they had the option of not being bribed so it's a-ok to fuck your consumers over", how far will you reach?

it's still not epic's fault, it's all on the contract signer
retard

What is your point even? Obviously a publisher has the option of being cancer or not, that doesn't make cancer ok nor does it make the cancer-enabler ok.

this is very untrue.

>Instead of letting people choose the better launcher they force them to use one
>competition

Retard
They literally aren't competing beacuse of the exclusivity.

>Both are anti-consumer exclusive cancer
someone post the "monopoly" image.

EPIC

Nope, it's an anti-competitive monopolistic tactic.
Paying for exclusivity is a core pillar of monopolies, see

Please die

>PS4 isn't competing with Xbox by making Spider-Man

Right

>price maker
I haven't bought directly from Steam for a while. It's all keys because my country is not some third world shithole and protects my online purchases.

you're actually using buzzwords with no context behind them, you're not feigning ignorance you're just plain stupid because everything you've repeated others' thoughts wrong.

>"I don't want to install a million launchers!"
Epic better provide a better service then, chink.
Literally the same "STOOPPP PIRATING" argument all over again.
Steam stepped up and delivered, so now it's epics turn. Oh wait, they're too busy going, "Naaahh, im going to snatch up 3rd party exclusives to not have to compete."
Keep trying, chink boy.

>going as low as comparing Epic to consoleshit cancer and even then the comparison breaks down when you consider the fact that Spider-Man was published and funded by Sony

Yes.
PS4 has monopoly on Spider-Man.
Even when Xbox is the better console.
This doesn't benefit the consumer, it's cancer.
Also Sony is the publisher, not a store front

>PS4 has monopoly on Spider-Man.

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH

Nice argument, fag

Public reviews, it would happen the other way around if Epic pulled this stunt.
Both the playerbase of Epic and Steam are exactly the same, trying to say "Steam users are bad, Epic is not!" is probably only a child would believe. Every gaming community is cancer, including you.

Yes, they have exclusive control of that commodity and you are forced to buy the exclusive console to play the exclusive game even though there's no technical reason for it, it's a monopolistic tactic.

Sony unironically owned the rights to spiderman so they actually do have a monopoly

It's uncanny how many of these points Epic checks, almost like they're employing monopolistic tactics on purpose in a controlled way.

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let me fix that for you OP

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Bet you are regreting this post right now, huh?

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One Artifact card has been deposited to your account

Please, stop trying to force this Coke/Pepsi shit

I think you guys are confused. Does Disney have a monopolistic ownership of Mickey Mouse?

Probably worth more than your weekly wage, chink shill.

That doesn't even make sense since I just posted a list of common monopolistic tactics which Epic happens to be doing, it's not like I'm trying to manipulate you with lies like OP does.

uh yeah they do and they've renewed their patent on him a bajillion times now even though every other company wouldnt have normally gotten a pass for it

Yes, why wouldn't it?

How much do you get paid to be a corporate cocksucker?

yes? Patents and IPs in general are government enforced monopolies. In the case of the mouse in particular disney bribes the shit out of the government to keep extending it

The own the rights to Spider-Man movies retarded epic shill

mao would not have allowed this

>Yea Forums is no person

Mickey Mouse isn't a product.
You can't buy a Mickey Mouse.
They have a monopoly on the right to use Mickey Mouse and can sell it if they want, but Disney created it so it owns it.

c'mon, answer the question you chink loving cuck.

Ironic coming from the Steam paypig

And Metro Exodus was a product Epic purchased for 1 year

>Yea Forums is every person

>I don't know what monopoly means
brainlet kill yourself

and metro exodus was in no way shape or form part of the R&D or fixed costs associated to Epic.
what is your point, chink shill?

This.
The only reason I never bought games online is because I only knew about Steam for the longest time and won't accept paying for a game and then getting treated like shit through all kinds of DRM bullshit.
Fuck Steam, and fuck DRM.

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purchased not created
if they didn't purchase it, it would be available everywhere, but they screwed over the consumers
if Disney didn't create the mouse it wouldn't exist

>REEEEEEEEEEE STEAAAAAM
stop sucking epic and tencent cock for a second, please

Sony didn't create Spider-man either

I never wanted Steam to begin with. Valve used even worse methods when they were pushing Steam. You can't actually buy games on PC anymore because of Valve and the people who refused to boycott them into bankruptcy. Why does Valve get a pass?

Fuck you guys, I am siding with Epic not because I like their store or approve of their games, but because I despise Valve and I do not want the opportunity to see Valve die for their sins to slip by.

They literally published the game you retard

GOG is just as bad as Steam. They are Steam with 1 less layer.

>Valve used even worse methods
Such as?

>You can't actually buy games on PC anymore because of Valve
Yes you can, what are you talking about?

Then what do you use?
Unless you're a pirate lad

No, the Spider-Man IP

I know you Steam drones aren't very smart, but SONY literally had nothing to do with Marvel Comics creation of Spider-Man

Insomniac made the game and marvel created the IP retarded steam shill
Keep shilling cuck

Piracy is not legitimate competition so long as it is illegal. It would be even more superior than paying for a download license If it were legal like it should be. Piracy being illegal holds piracy back from reaching its true potential.

Sony signed an exclusivity deal to publish Spider-Man games and movies which isn't a good thing, what are you even trying to defend or compare it to?

>Sony signed an exclusivity deal to publish Spider-Man games and movies which isn't a good thing

Except it was responsible for some of the best Spider-Man movies

I'm not the one shilling though
I have no loyalty to any company

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but then why do I have to contemplate what games to get on what client? Hell my go to is Gog

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Steam isn't a monopoly when Uplay, Origin, Games for Windows Live, GoG, launcherless games, mobile games, PS4 games, Xbox games, Switch games and piracy all exist as options/competitors.

I would be perfectly happy for a major competitor to exist to Steam if it wasn't owned by fucking Tencent. And 1 DRM bloatware launcher is too many already, let alone multiple.

>This place is literally just alt-groupthink
I disagree

nah Piracy is adding syrup to your soda water

Steam has 60% of the PC market according to Wikipedia. Obviously big but factually not a monopoly.

>enjoy Soda for years, it's the most used beverage in the town
>has some faults, maybe the twist top is a little loose sometimes
>nobody really minds
>new salesman comes into town
>he has a bottle full of earthworms and hog piss
>"whats the matter, can't handle competition? if you don't buy this you're supporting the monopoly!"
>some retard actually tries the new drink
>somehow it steals his credit card info

It's a monopoly on PC

That's a bad analogy as piracy gives you almost exactly the same thing as purchase, with the only exception being multiplayer. So it would be more like owning a Sodastream that can give you Coke's exact recipe, but can't replicate Diet Coke.
Also soft drinks are literal poison.

>gog, origin, Uplay, launcherless/individual launcher games, piracy

meanwhile, this user buys skyrim for the 3rd time on his nintendo switch.

No you can't, paying for a download license is not buying a game and paying for a download license is the only legal way to play games on PC these days because casuals and console immigrants such as yourself refused to boycott Valve. I am so glad piracy is a thing so I can play games without paying for a fucking download and without using some client.

If you're bright enough to check, there are other sites/stores to buy PC games. I'm just saying.

competition and monopoly are the same thing
the question is not what but how.
if steam has a 'monopoly' because it attracts so many consumers to it due to its good services causing all the publishers to publish on them, then its a good thing, if epic has a monopoly because it is buying legal monopolies over the product and doesn't need to try and appease the consumer at all to guarantee sells, its a bad thing.

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When I boot up Dwarf Fortress and Planetside 2 am I using Steam?

Valve is the reason digital distribution has a monopoly on PC.

Pepsi doesn't deserve this.

How long have you been repeating yourself like a broken record with this moronic download license shit when physical DRM literally gives you less freedom?
I buy a game on GOG and I'm free to copy it as many times as I want and burn it on as many CDs I want and if I somehow lose all backups I can redownload the game for free.
Meanwhile a physicalcuck can't copy his game without bypassing the DRM and he isn't allowed to ask for more copies of the game he bought.

New thread

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Distributism is the objectively best political philosophy: softly disincentivize big business with antitrust, forcing competition to continue and empowering small business while avoiding the consolidation of power that comes with socialist bullshit.

It has all the benefits of capitalism with none of the downsides.

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