GET FUCKED YOU COCKSUCKING PIECE OF SHIT

ur mum ez

I really like your idea of a pilgrimage.

You forgot to rate the rolling gods of gangrape.

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What can't you upload it here?

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Oh, right, lemme update it. I like to keep track.

I'm got the self-sacrifice ending and so far here's my boss tier list:

Pathetic tier
>false knight
>nosk
>first-time hornet
>gorb
>crystal guardian
>mantis lords

You tried tier
>broken vessel
>the colector
>dung defender
>soul master
>uumuu
>galien
>no eyes
>watcher knights

Heh not bad, kid tier
>second-time hornet
>hollow knight

You made me use my full power tier
>lost kin

Kill me, just fucking do it tier
>primal aspid

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Fuck I'm a retard. I kept thinking that I was at the size limit but that was never the case.

Because it made a pretty poor OP image I am guessing.
But for this thread yeah.

Hollow Knight really is the Dark Souls of the Metroidvania genre....
Whoa...

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Reminds me of that old dark souls comic

>wow, capra demon was hard!
>pfff, you thought capra demon was hard? nito is way harder
>fucking casual, nito is easy. gargoyles are way harder.

>and so on as a gigantic line of elitists show up to contradict one another

What made you want to do this you mad bastard?

would be better if i could fucking see.

This is not exclusive to hollow knight. People, especially the kind of asshole that posts on Yea Forums, are generally egotistical. They want to look down on others and feel good about themselves.

So whenever someone else says they had trouble with something, someone else MUST come along and say how easy it actually was to feel good about themselves.

What did they mean by this?

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>queelag
>hard
Said no one ever.

I beat him on my first try, but it WAS pretty fucking tough. Watcher Knights and Traitor Lord tore my asshole wide open though

I thought she was pretty hard on my first run through the game since her fucking AOE attack kept killing me.
This was on Xbox, on release of the game so she might have been nerfed since then. She's easy as fuck now.

>Watcher Knights
Solely a pain in the ass because they just don't work the way you would expect. You'd think the idea is
>if you take too long killing one, the rest will keep spawning and fuck you up
But instead it's
>the absolute second you kill one, another will spawn, eliminating your ability to control the group

So then you end up in situations where, unless you're managing their movements right, they'll just put up an impassable bouncing wall and fuck you. I really don't liike that design decision.

>when i started playing the game i immediately beat the entire pantheon
Shut up, nerd.

This. Watcher Knight is hard the first couple of time to manage their movements.
Traitor Lord can be cheesed by dash killing him. But outside of that you're better of DPS race him.

I beat the watcher knights in my second try with this cheesy ass build. Didn't dodge once.

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I hope you don't mind my edit.
I like your map though.

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>inb4 you need to ring 2 bells to open up path to the golden city up above

I can't even see.

it was the same with dark souls

Okay lads I fixed it somewhat.

I still can't imagine what other possible areas they might have.

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That is better. Nice.

Wow this is autistically detailed. Really cool. Good job, user.

Okay motherfuckers. Throw out some ideas for areas. I think we can fill out the right side of the map with more substantial content. I don't mind even if you suggest to place another mossy grotto on the right side.

What are some themes that they still haven't done in Silksong or HK?

Fuck Radiance, holy shit. How am I supposed to get any damage done when there are swords flying everywhere and 3 balls are gunning for my juicy ass, meanwhile half the stage is covered in spikes.
The homing balls are absolute fucking bullshit. Especially since it's a crapshoot if they'll dissipate when touching the ground or a platform or not. Half the time, they just go right through them.

user please let me force you to autism maps for my lisa fangame

silksong and ori 2 are the only games I want to play and none of them have a fixed release date

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What I wonder is where these bugs gets their intelligence from.
I mean granted that by no means all bugs needed the Pale King for sentience, but I kind of got the impression that most somehow did.

So will there be some kind of brain juice in this kingdom or something?

Abyss Shriek does 6 times the pure nail damage. It's easy to get in a lot hits when she does the nails falling from the skies attack.

Follow Hornet's advice

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youtube.com/watch?v=pFAknD_9U7
Can you make the greenpath area bigger? Maybe expand it to the right?
Expand the forge/asylum or whatever you called it to the right.
Make a gigantic loom building for the weavers. Or a silk factory on the right side.
That's all I have.

It doesn't have to be Pale King specifically, mossfucks from Greenpath got sentience from Unn instead, and the land godseekers come from had their own gods as well. The new kingdom probably has it's own gods.
My pet theory is that Hornet was kidnapped because the god of the new kingdom is dying and bugs there want Pale King's daughter to replace it before they devolve.

>getting mad at a flash game

That's what I've been doing but the damn balls keep throwing me off.
That and the game deciding to make me dash forward when I'm pressing backward. I don't know what they were thinking but having a buffer when you press backwards feels awful. When I press back and another button, I want the character to immediately turn around, not moonwalk and do the action the way I'm facing.

Also, having to do hollow knight every single time is exhausting. He's a pushover, but I just don't want to spend 2 minutes between each attempt beating on an invalid.

Shut up Hornet or I'll let you get wrecked and get the bad end again.

Do we know if there are any cute moths in the new kingdom?

I never got this, Nosk absolutely fucked me for so long but Hornet v2 wasn't much of a problem.
What was the trick for him? I never got it somehow

Last version because I'm tuckered out for the night.

What do you think Yea Forums?

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This is fucking great user.

I decided to settle down and finished the trail of fools in the colosseum. I dropped it to do some more exploring after getting stumped on the air section.

congraz man!
dont listen to the faggots here, soul tyrant is brutal early on in the game

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Threadly reminder that any NPC in Silksong will forever be "worse Cornifer", "lamer Quirrel" or "Zote 2.0".

Correction:

Radiant Absolute Radiance > Radiant Markoth >>> Everything Else

>radiant absolute radiance
>getting to the second phase more often
>got to the final phase three times in the last hour
>died on the way up twice
>third time made it up but immediately died because one of the light balls spawned in an awkward place

I hate this fucking fight more than I've hated anything else ever, but I AM getting better at it. And in it's own way that makes this a really fun fight. I HATE it, but it's fun.

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I quit the game when at 1 HP during Broken Vessel's bazillion orbs attack. Should I delete my save? It doesn't feel honorabu and he's my bro.

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Assuming it's steel soul, yes, otherwise you'll just feel guilty instead of accomplished for the rest of the run

Absolute Radiance > Markoth > Pure Vessel > Zote
Everyone else isn’t too rough imo, you can get consistent with them quickly enough.

I really hope they fix Silksong so bosses that can spawn projectiles can't spawn them directly in your direction.
It feels so cheap.
They need to spawn at least some distance from the player so you have time to react.
So many times, I dodge one thing only for a projectile to appear right in front of me and screw me anyway.
For how many bosses do this, you'd think the playtesters would have said something.

this
jesus fucking christ i though radiant markoth was bad but radiant AR almost shattered my sanity

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I swear the souls community used to be supportive and guiding when I first started

at some point it devolved into this 'git gud' mentality and I feel like the games followed suit

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>that part of the map where there's a bottomless drop
I want it to happen so much.

>at some point it devolved into this 'git gud' mentality and I feel like the games followed suit

This happened when the games gained mainstream notoriety for being hard and challenging. The killing blow was when DaS1 was released on PC.

>true final boss of silksong was leaked

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We already fought the sun though

Ok now Dream Nail him.

Fuck off this boss was hard. I've seen multiple threads about Watcher Knights but I didn't have a problem with them, Soul Master and Soul Tyrant were hard as fuck for me.

It all went downhill after Demon's Souls, user.

>DeS gets a reputation for being hard, but Miyazaki always went on record saying that the difficulty was never the point, just a means to an end
>Bamco ignore all of Miyazaki's wishes and go "HAHA PREPARE TO DIE, EPIC DARK SOULS COMING SOON, GET READ TO GET PWND"
>Dark Souls goes mainstream and gets a reputation as this ultra hard game because retards kept walking into the graveyard and shit
>now elitists get to pat themselves on the back for beating a game that's really not that hard
>literally anyone with any complaint about the game is treated as one of the dumbasses who walked into the graveyard at SL1

Anybody got tips for radiant markoth ? i've spent three days so far trying

Here's my tip: Don't. Just don't. Save your sanity.

I have so much autism I refuse to do a pantheon unless I've done the previous one with all bindings at once, sanity is no longer a concern

Incest is wrong.

Learn to pogo on him. You can get two to four pogos when he does the shield attack but you gotta time it right.

Go crazy with spells during the second phase.

Pray RNG doesn't fuck you over. He can spawn nails on the platforms, and he can hang out in hard to pogo spots.

What are you, gay?

Through dream I travel, at lantern's call
To consume the flames of a kingdom's fall

Would you join Grimm's dread troupe and dance and die and live forever? Be honest.

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>Would you join Grimm's dread troupe and dance and die and live forever?
No, because I'm not a gypsy faggot. Real cool guys succeed themselves instead of feeding on failures of others.

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No, I will beat the crap out of him and win a cute demon baby instead.

I will join only if it meant hopelessly chasing after Hornet to the ends of the world forever

>godseeker
>really cool gal who succeeds herself
Lmao. Literally all she does is suck up to beings that are stronger than her to revel in their power.

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Non radiant Markoth is more a pain in the ass than anything difficult.

>doing pantheons with all bindings
I can finally see how useful my beating all those Radiant fights is but I still wanna die

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Because the 95% of people who agree with him aren't going to bother replying, he has already said what they agree with.

absolute radiance > nightmare king grimm = pure vessel > brooding mawlek > lost kin > white defender > soul tyrant > zote > failed champion
I have no fucking idea how people have difficulties with zote or failed champion.

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The first two shouldn't be too hard, the third and fourth aren't easy even if you did all the Radiant bosses. And the fifth can fuck itself with a rusty nail.

>Top 3 most satisfying
Absolute Radiance
Pure Vessel
Nightmare King Grimm

>Top 3 most annoying
Zote
Markoth
Lost Kin

>Top 3 most fun
Sisters of Battle
Traitor Lord
White Defender

>tfw when I literally play Souls to relax after getting wrecked by normal Radiance.

For that matter Pale King also only got anywhere because he murdered Radiance and usurped what she built (only to get reamed by her ghost).

I deleted my first, 30 hour, steel soul run because I cheated like that and it didn't feel right. Then I did it right and proper.

>the third and forth aren't easy even if you did all the Radiant bosses
Seriously? least I found out early though i guess

>that's not even my final form

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Pale King = Zeus
Hornet = Athena
Hollow Knight = Hercules
Little Ghost = ?

Just stand in the corner, he's orange thingies can't hit you.

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That feeling when I could only manage to defeat him 6 times.
I am guessing Godhome is above my level.

I unironically took more attempts to beat radiant Markoth than absolute Radiance

Lol no. He was already one of the strongest beings in the world of Hollow Knight before he even set foot into Hallownest. He is conventionally immortal, can see the future, has infinite soul and dreamer powers just a step below the Radiance. He convinced the Moths to abandon the god that literally birthed them to follow him instead and built the entirety of Hallownest. He nearly mastered the manipulation of VOID and used it to create life that directly led to the Radiance's utter destruction. In the entire game there's exactly two beings stronger than him, the Radiance and the God of Gods.

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FUCK NKG

THE STARTUP FOR HIS BATS(THE ONLY TIME YOU CAN RELIABLY HIT HIM) AND HIS DASH FORWARD

ARE EXACTLY THE SAME. IT'S BULLSHIT, IT'S COMPLETELY UP TO HIM WHETHER OR NOT I TAKE A HIT ON THAT MOVE FUCK NKG

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Sharp Shadow bro. Even if you fuck up a dash dodge, it'll hurt him.

I'm starting to doubt the fairness of this game.
Please reassure me.

I can't wait to play as hornet.She looks so zippy.

why would you need the game to be fair? what are you, a filthy casual?

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It's not fair. There are some bad bosses. I don't understand this fascination Yea Forums has where if ONE THING is unfair then the entire game is shit. People in HK threads will argue for hours about ONE MOVE being incredibly difficult to dodge consistently and that this means the game is shit. It was made by 3 people, some things are bullshit. The majority of other things are completely fair and the good bosses are so good they overshadow the bad ones. Lost Kin is a terrible fight for instance. Watcher Knights also.

Other than bosses, I notice the pogo has bad hitboxes sometimes and I'll miss a pogo on an enemy that 100 percent should have hit. Never happens on objects though.

Is there a character that could even possibly EVEN TOUCH the Pale King? Let alone defeat him. And I'm not talking about midget Pale King. I'm not talking about Monarch Wings Pale King either. Hell, I'm not even talking about Ancient Being Pale King with the powers of immortality, foresight and creating void constructs (with the ability to throw claw-blades and being capable of dealing 2 masks on every hit), equipped with his shotgun, infinite amounts of sawblades and spikes, full control of soul magic and void spells, with Wyrm's DNA implanted in him so he can fuck trees and spiders producing thousands of offspring while at the same time being such a great father he can awaken feelings in a piece of literal fucking nothingness.

Yes, his wife.

I don't think it's even fair to say that the Radiance is stronger than him. Their powers are entirely different. It's not like the Radiance could do anything to stop him from replacing her in they eyes of the moths. The only thing she could do was destroy the kingdom he built in retaliation. The Pale King himself wasn't touched by the infection at all and neither were his dreamers, great knights or loyal servants. The Radiance can't directly kill the Pale King and the Pale King can't directly kill her. They can only squabble over the ownership of Hallownest. And in the end neither won.

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Some SteamDB leak lists Silksong for a June 2020 release, so TC seem to be serious about 1up-ing themselves

>June 2020
That should be more than enough time to beat all Radiant fights/all Binding Pantheons, r-right?

If you start now, you should have at least beaten the normal Hallownest Pantheon once by next year!

Boy am I gonna try

>June 2020
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
I need it now. At least in the end of 2019

Not him but I want to get to Land of Storms and Full binding every pantheon so bad. I'll have to do Radiant Markoth and AR first though.
That's a double edged sword, on the one hand I really want it 2019 but mid 2020 guarantees uber quality. Quality of the sort they have time to mull over, address, and re-address meta flaws in HK's design. Of which there are only nitpicks. Fuck am I hyped.
A release on HK's 3rd anniversary (feb 2020) would be optimal.

>White Defender
It's oddly satisfying to just juggle him from 100% to 0%

>Uumuu
>Easier than Mantis Lords
>Dung defender not being pathetic
Fuck off

It's Hollow Knights anniversary today btw lads.

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>Lost 700+ of whatever the fuck the currency is called.
God fucking damnit I was saving up for that lantern.

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sauce?

Thats most likely a placeholder date. Admittedly, I do not expect it to come any sooner than 2020, possibly even on February 14th 2020 as that's a Friday and is exactly one year since announcement.
I don't mind waiting as long as the game is good, though.

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Record yourself doing radiant zote twice in a row and tell me again how he's easy.

Don't worry you'll be swimming in geo later

If we talk about quality, the best quality will be only in 2021-2022. GOTY edition with all DLC. But they learn a lot I hope so vanilla Silksong will be goty tier

The game doesn't have diagonal inputs, right? So why is controller recommended? I played the entire game on keyboard just fine.

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Godmaster doesn't inspire much confidence. Those bossfights have pretty bad design choices at times.

geo come
geo go

Haha, sure was funny when after 3 hours of tries I thought I killed him and then his second phase happened and i'm not fast enough to pick up the controller haha

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Not op, but I finished the game and Soul Master gave me the most trouble. Literally gorillion tries before downing him

Name a boss. Flukemarm is literally the only bad boss in the game.

Every other new boss is great even if Flying Nosk is just fanservice.

>beat him and Failed Champion without nail upgrades, spells, monarch wings or charms yesterday
Ez. 90% of the bosses in this game will give you no problems once you figure out their patterns.

steamdb.info/app/1030300/history/
Most likely a placeholder meaning the start of summer at the absolute earliest, meaning a spring 2020 release

>gaping dragon
>hard
why is Lautrec such a shitter?

>2022
I'll take a very very very slightly less polished product 2020 with qoc updates later please.

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will you let me go

Soul Master isn't even hard though.

Flukemarm and Winged Nosk are the only really bad ones, yes. Winged Nosk in particular is just a beefed up vengefly.

Based and palepilled.

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>area where the light don't shine

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You just know there's going to be an area where the light from the citadel doesn't reach. And it's going to be absolutely fucked.

High quality work. But I won't read any of it. Don't wanna spoil the experience.

Very true user

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*steals your girl*

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What does Japan think of Hollow Knight?
I wonder what they think of Silksong. Though I don't think Silksong has even had a Japanese trailer. Is it even launching in Japanese?

What compels you to do this user? Because it's great.

>qoc
*qol
mixed up it and tlc

Both keyboard and controller are viable choices, depends on what you feel more comfortable with.
I personally prefer using the keyboard because it feels more precise to me.

Time to place your bets on how Hornet's death mechanic works lads.
>leaves a shade
>grappling needles away like in her first fight
>gets wrapped in silk like a coccoon
>just dies but wakes up in a bench as if it was a dream
>disappears into particles and gets resummoned back on the bench with the power of song
>silk strands save her as if weavers are watching her every move
>Silksong becomes an H-game and we get a cutscene of her getting raped by whatever killed her

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A good alternative to the shade is her leaving a "panic stash" like spies and other sundry handymen do what with her building her kit herself with survivalist competence.

>tfw destroyed that speaker and one of the speakers in the tram before I knew they wouldn't respawn like signs and other overworld destructibles

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I never even knew you could destroy speakers. Now I know to be careful around them.

>Didn't dodge once.
based and red pilled.
counter
cancel
combo
repeat

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comfiest area with comfiest music
youtube.com/watch?v=oIIuwtDL_ok

>keep dying to paintmaster sheo
I'll be absolutely fucked at the next pantheons won't I

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109% and three pantheons to go.
I'm starting to get it now I think.

Playing through the game again and I just realised that Cornifer doesn't hum in deepnest because he is scared.

He also doesn't hum so that some less attentive players might get stuck in Deepnest without a map.

>killed the vengefly at the start
>leave zote in deepnest
>get to the godmaster DLC
>empty space for GPZ is there
fuck

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Ouch

>Finally manage to make it through path of pain
>Die to the kindsmould enemies at the very end

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Zote can't die in Deepnest retard.

tfw Soul master was easy but im getting fucked by the mantis lords.

What was his problem?

he has daddy issues

>*steals your girl*

I don't think so

[RAUGHS]

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Swap Grimm and Zote and we have a deal. Grimm is an achievable dance, Zote is just random bullshit.

>know full well there's no way on earth I'm ever doing all the pantheons/bindings

Look
I'm all for a good challenge
And more content in a game is a good thing

But why must you include content that exists solely to make me feel bad for lacking the severe autism required to beat it

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>THE ONLY TIME YOU CAN RELIABLY HIT HIM

Spoonfeed time

Dash attack

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FOOT DIVE

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Bats
(Jump over the first bat and stand still to heal)

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Flame pillars

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>gaping dragon
What. What the fuck. Just walk in the other direction, hit it ten times, then walk in the other direction.

He's only hard because he has so much goddamn health. If you haven't fully upgraded the nail by the time you face him this fight takes fucking forever.

Spikes (95% of the time, you're in prime position to avoid damage completely.)

NKG is all about following these counters until you can counter his every move. Once you can, then the dance begins and it's just a case of recognizing which attack he's doing and punishing accordingly. He's easily the fairest boss in the game.

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Yeah, Quuelag is where the tears start rolling.

>Burns shade cloak and doesn't pogo into aerial hit

Needs improvement

Where are all the lewds damnit?

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nosk got buffed in one of the updates. he didn't used to jump on the ceiling and do his infected spit thing. he would literally just run at you and so you could sit next to the raised platform and completely avoid all his attacks.

For me, it's the Failed Champion. He'd be hard enough if there wasn't a shower of meteors raining down from the sky. I know you can hit his head with the dream nail when you stagger him and get all your soul back but it doesn't matter because I can't even survive long enough to advance him 1 phase.
How are you supposed to tell where and when he's going to jump, and when you try to jump over him how are you supposed to avoid the meteors? I've heard there's a way to cheese him with Joni's Blessing and Quick Slash but I'm not gonna do that because I want to learn how to avoid his attacks

>no more charms
>no more facetank bullshit, minion cheese, or overpowered spells
>no more crutches like quick focus or shape of unn or hiveblood for platforming segments

OH NO NO NO LADS
WHAT THE FUCK DO WE DO

this isnt greenpath

I did him relatively late and with shadow cloak you can avoid literally everything he does

I cannot believe that picture has gotten as popular as it has.

Or is it just one user?

git gud

you can hit the meteors into him with your nail to damage him.

cringe

wait till you get to dream bosses faglord.

You should have already moved in to hit him once after the second pillar, completed the strike so that the third fires to the right of Grimm, struck again then moved to left of Grimm to make the 4th fire at that position, then Abyss Shrieked under him. A third can be snuck in at any point with optimal placement.
Please congratulate me for formulating this myself and not parroting my observations of some gay speedrunner.

I just exploit his AI and bait him into certain parts of the arena. You can lead him from one end of the arena to the next and he wont use his shockwave attack unless you're at a massive distance away from him. He's really easy once you learn to hit him, run to the end of the arena, dodge his shockwave, dash under his next jump, hit him a few more times, run to the opposite side of the arena, dodge his shockwave jump, dash under his next jump, hit him a few more times and repeat until dead.

Even my gf beat hollow knight and from time to time she was forgetting what button does what. Just how fucking casual are you faggots.

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His pic hard-implies Soul Tyrant retard

holy shit really? If that's true that would be a huge help

>quuelag
easiest boss in the game. Artorious now that's a hard boss.

I'd still have to look out for the meteors but that sounds like it could work, I'll try that. Thanks user.

What's hollow knight?

Minor help. Try for like 2-3, one or 2 of them you may need to quick up air for safety.

Thing I’ve realized with these types of games especially Dark Souls is that difficulty is highly individual. I beat Pontiff, Dancer, Four Kings and O&S on first try but Soul of Cinder, Gargoyles and Lothric kicked my ass

I have no intentions of going for the optional autismhard bosses. That said, I'm a bit concerned since I got my ass kicked by the Traitor Lord more times than I'd care to admit just now. Although it didn't help that I had to go through that platforming section over and over again, and I only just found out the dreamgate is a thing that exists.
So yeah, not really a fan of the bosses in this game atm.

yeah. it's not the most reliable way to beat him, but it can help if you're in a pinch and dashing to avoid one would put you in danger.

Just beat the PoH and HOLY FUCK THE ADRENALINE

Welcome to the .8% user.

Opinions on this shotgun beauty?
Specially after its damage was nerfed.

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It was a big enough pain to beat him the first time, I couldn't be bothered with even trying the rest.
Those dives from the ceiling and faints he occasionally pulls are fucking bullshit.

STOP RUBBING IT IN REEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>tfw .5% on gaystation

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>never lost Geo once while playing Hollow Knight
Sucks to suck I guess.

I'm legitimately scared of how autistic Silksong's lategame difficulty is going to be. Hornet is designed in such a way that it enables boss/platform design to be fucking bullshit.

Yo is it actaully only .8? Where did you here that.

Probably the only nerf that went too far.

>Pure Vessel = NKG
Not in a million years. I didn't have much trouble dealing with NKG but I had to practice hours PV to finally beat him on ascended.
PV is probably the boss that will make me kill my last trophy for beating the last pantheon. And dealing with Uumuu, Markoth and Zote in the same Pantheon before having to face AR is just do brutal...

Steam achievements, go to Global Statistics and scroll down all the way

>It's at .8% now
What the fuck bros how do we get more people to buy the game and lower this number?

I like it against radiant god tamer, but I didn't use it otherwise. There are probably other use cases for it but just generally speaking, having soul handy for abusing descending dark i-frames or abyssal shriek is just a better use of soul against Godmaster content.

Does this authorizes me to give up the PoH "50min per try" autism?
I beat this glorious cunt 10 times, that has to count for something, r-right?

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I want to brag to people that i beat it. Where does this .8% come from?

I don't mind a decent challenge, but I really hope they won't spend too much time on max autism hard levels.
Not that you sadists shouldn't be allowed to have your fun, but it seems like shame if they focus too much again on content that less than 1% will ever bother to complete.

>brooding mawlek
What? I always kill it without receiving any damage.

>when you get your ass kicked by Absolute Radiance with all the bindings, so you go through the pantheon with only one binding to dab on her
Feels therapeutic desu.

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Congrats. I just unlocked it, but I’m going to finish the bindings for PoK first. I get the feeling that having +5 masks in every rest area will make completing PoH way easier.

if you use the dung charm yeah

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>but it seems like shame if they focus too much again
One single proper platforming challenge in such a vast long game and a simple bossrush with a few new bosses and a few new backgrounds.
I wouldn't call that "focusing too much" in hard content.
I hope there are more White Palace types in Hornet's game, her movement looks fun as fuck.

i lost like 30 times to hornet 1 on my first playthrough
it was not fun

How exactly do you unlock the +5 blue masks for PoH? Finish the previous pantheon of the knight with the bindings? Can I do the bindings one by one to unlock the masks?

>it's true
wtf no, it's even tied with steel heart now
fuck you

Practice fighting Zote. He really isn’t that bad unless he spams his minions. Try sticking to a spot on the wall during Umuu, only moving to avoid an attack or to do an attack. Remember that you can knock jellyfish into him with spells, and don’t try to rush the fight.

Sure, but I was also thinking along the lines that I'd rather have had more locations rather than just more bosses in the DLC. But considering we just got a whole new game as an expansion, I probably shouldn't complain.

Did you beat PV in radiant? I just can't... it's been hours and hours... At some point I just fuck up, it's too hard.

You have to complete bindings for the previous pantheons to unlock the door near the Hall of Gods. It first unlocks at 8 bindings, and it upgrades at 12 and 16. You can complete them one at a time.

>DON'T CRY BABY
>JUST ONE NIGHT DREAM

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Is there any difference between beating them four times with one different binding each time vs. once with all four?

>muh special percent
autism

You get a super shiny "You Did It" light on them.

>The killing blow was when DaS1 was released on PC.
You're wrong. When twitch streamers started getting a hold of it and raging in front of millions of 9 year olds is when things went bad.

Things I am stuck on:
>Trial of the Fool
>Nightmare King Grimm
>Path of Pain
I refuse to start godhome until I beat these, since it is so separated from the rest of the game. Which should I do first? All three are kicking my ass

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stay mad bro

just win lol

Radiant AR was a bigger bitch, but it felt much more fair than Radiant Markoth.

I beat NKG but haven't beaten the other things yet, so that I guess

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>I'd rather have had more locations rather than just more bosses in the DLC
I'm not necessarily disagreeing with you. Even if I enjoyed things like Path of Pain and the bonus fights from the DLCs, the joy of exploring the base game for the first time was still my favorite thing in these games.
Idealistically, I would want more of both things, but I realize I may be asking too much from a team of 3 guys.

Also, I want to point out that such a low percentage of achievement of Godhome can be partially blamed in the fact casuals with ADHD give up too fucking fast these days.
I mean, just look at this shit.
Everyone always points out the 0.8% of Godhome in these threads, but I've never seen anyone mentioning that the Steel Soul mode has almost the same rate at 1%, which is even worse imo considering it's a much, much easier achievement to accomplish.

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For me the difficulty was Path of Pain >>> NKG > Trial of the Fool. I would do NKG first, he's the fastest because you can just fight him over and over again immediately.

If you're stuck on the Trial of the Fool and NKG, you're gonna quit very soon in Godhome. That shit is not for casuals I can tell you that.
As for path of pain, if you're not a meat boy player, you're gonna be there for hours, be ready. It's brutal.
But if you really want to keep playing, I'd say start by finishing that Trial of the Fool, it's not so bad, a couple of attempts should be enough to win. Then go kick NKG's ass, you'll want to practice a bit and you'll get it.

Question: I'm in the middle of a steel run and I think is time to kill the dream bosses. If I die in a dream, will I really die?

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>when he obnoxiously hovers JUST under some platform you can pogo

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>tfw nobody congratulates you
Is beating Zote number 10 not considered a hard thing to achieve anymore?
God dammit, why did I even bother then...

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Given the newest DLC has a mode where you need to beat every boss without getting hit, plenty of people can do Zote hitless now.

I don't think people even attempt Steel Soul. I haven't attempted Steel Soul, yet I've reached Absolute Radiance in the Pantheon (and beaten her in the Hall of Gods.) Most of my attempts end to Zote, that random prick.

I used to have immense trouble with the fucking mantis lords and the soul sanctum, so I am steadily getting better, that's for sure

No. You will die in White Palace and to Radiance though. I lost a 9 hour run because I overconfidently went in there without any healing charms lol.

No, except for DNing reg Hollow Knight into Radiance. Lost my chance to keep a safe trophy steel file for not realizing the obvious.

I hadn't thought of that.
Fuck me.

Yeah that's the thing. Not so much because of the difficulty, but simply because most people don't feel like replaying the whole game again. And I can understand that. It's just very fun to practice the bosses in the Hall of Gods instead of going back to the beginning and getting all the items back etc.
Speed run and Steel soul mode is nice for fans but I mean, I have other stuff I want to play.

Wanna know something even more fun? Zotes you beat in the pantheons and in hall of gods count towards the gold statue, so people earn the gold statue accidentally just by doing Godmaster.

FUCK THAT CRYSTAL NIGGER DEFENDING THAT BENCH

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You dont have to kill radiance for 100%

Level 10 zote is just radiant. No one cares anymore.

Be patient.

Just smell bad bro.

>people say that PV, NKG, Failed Champion, Lost Kin are difficult bosses
>find absolute shitters like Marmu and Nosk more difficult during when doing bindings

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There's still the fact that only around 15% of the players finished the game.
If we dismiss the people who dropped the game before the last of the linear bosses (Hornet first fight), that means only around the 27% of the people who liked the game enough to continue playing and open the map finished the game.
Less than a third.
People nowadays just don't have the patience for long games.

Everyone is different, Fry.

I hate Godhome now.

Once you realize you only need to jump behind him when he does his laser attack he is pretty easy. Just stay close to him all the time.

Divine doesnt disappear when you beat NKG

BRO this is fucking kino

Lmao just copy your save and edit the flag for steel soul to true and the time played to 20 seconds then go kill HK

That's not what he's asking.
Pic related.
I don't know if you can miss the chance to banish them, but as long as you don't go for the second fight of Grimm you should be safe I think?

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But it is the point that marks your continued steel soul file is save concerning dying to bosses.
112% is were it's at gayboy

Then just don't do Speed Run and Steel Soul. Are you fucking retarded?

*safe

guys, I can't do radiant markoth and lost kin

what can I do?

>lost kin too hard
git gud
>markoth
git something

Always use dash slash for Markoth and prioritize dodging.

here.
Ok, Dream Zote is giving me a run for my money. The first one was fair enough but the other are pissing me off. I fucking despise bosses who keep throwing enemies at you all the time.

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i'll try

if i'm having this much trouble with them, what are my chances for radiant NKG, PV and AR?

Then you throw some of yours back at him.

the fact that the PC version was called "Prepare to Die Edition" shows the killing blow came way earlier. I'd say this user is correct

For what reason does the banish Grimm option exist? First playthrough I did it because I thought that I would still have to fight him again to get the troupe to leave Hallownest alone, but that didn't happen. It sucks that the option to preserve the kingdom, free Brumm, and not do the freaky ritual that does who knows what also denies you a climatic fight.

You mean the charm with little spiders? If so I never used that but looks shitty af. I'm using the invulnerability build.

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It's the scrub option. Much like leaving Zote to die.

>For what reason does the banish Grimm option exist?
So that casuals (target audience) can get completion % too? I think it's good that the option exists, NKG is a lot harder than most of base game stuff, and a lot of preexisting players might not want the difficulty jump.

>looks shitty af
Not with the Grubsong synergy.
It allowed my pet build to kill Soul Tyran first try without doing nothing.

ur all fucking dogshit casuals

show us your all bindings pantheon of hallownest time

...

Does Pantheon of Hallownest even show time?

How would a single player PvE game be fair or unfair outside of shit like fighting games or RTS where your opponents are supposed to be following the same rules as you? None of the enemies in HK operate under the same rules you do so nothing that they do can be considered 'unfair'.

To my knowledge there are no points during the game where you are forced to take damage and there are no instances where attacks can randomly miss or do more/less damage than normal. Assuming the situation is identical, you will get an identical result every time you attack. Seems fair to me.

>Grubsong
The spiders stack souls while being hit? What more do you use? Shaman Stone and Spell Twister?

God of Gods is just the big void creature at the end right? Otherwise the void is definitely stronger than him.

Also I have absolute faith that the Knight could take him down.

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10/10
Best image to sum up Godmaster ever posted.
t. adores Godmaster

they nerfed uumuu in the pantheon. he goes down really quickly. like you literally just have to bounce two of those things off him and hit him when he's stunned and it's over.

markoth is fucking annoying though and it's hard to practice in the hall of gods since he does double damage there but not in the pantheon.

zote+3 isn't really that bad. depends on RNG though. NKG and pure vessel are pretty easy once you've gotten their patterns down. absolute radiance is a cunt though. i could beat her like 50% of the time in the hall of gods but would get nervous and fuck up when i was in the pantheon. if i can do it you can do it though. good luck.

Little Ghost is going to appear in the second game for sure. The game is called fucking Hollow Knight for a reason, and we all know Hornet is not hollow and big bro is dead. I'm guessing he is going to help or save us in the final fight in his godly form or something like that.

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>he had trouble with Artorious
What a joke you are user. If anyone has trouble with anything other than Moonlight Butterfly you can tell they're probably refugees from Neogaf.

>What more do you use?
For a pet build? I'm not the guy you were talking at first about Zote.

For a pet build I get the spider core first
>weaversong
>sprintmaster to make them faster and more jumpy
>grubsong so they're constantly collecting free bits of soul
And then a Glowing Womb + Defender's Crest for the main damager.
The spiders will be getting enough soul to keep the Womb in production all the time during bossfights.
Very fun, but a little chaotic.

>Shaman Stone and Spell Twister?
I haven't tried a magic build with the spider core, but sounds like it could be worth a try later.

> implying Hornet won't die and get VOIDED midway through the new game

Nerfing Uumuu when he was perfectly fucking fine cause reddit bitched and leaving Markoth alone is the most retarded decision ever made.

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>actually jobbing to moonlight butterfly
Might as well sell your game right now, user.
Butterfly is nothing compared to capra demon

Grubberfly's Elegy spam worked for me. Eventually.

I like to think that hornet has some level of PTSD from hollow knight 1
>hornet gets to the weavers
>weavers play some shit like a “song of remembrance or hornet just stabs herself with a dream nail
>player is taken to a place where you can sit on the bench with ghost
>dream ends

yeah i didn't play the game until they already nerfed uumuu so i don't know how many hits it took to kill him beforehand. it was pretty laughably easy though when i got to him since he died immediately.

markoth was my 2nd most hated boss in the pantheon next to absolute radiance though. i can't imagine what absolute radiance was like pre-nerf.

Is it true it's possible to get it before the dash?

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I'll give it a try, but I doubt I'll keep it. The main reason I go with the invulnerability build is the satisfaction of spamming attacks in their face with no fucks given.

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holy shit I just beat radiant lost kin with summoning build. it took me 2 hours to beat him last night just straight up with the nail. is this considered cheating? he couldn't hit me at all while my little buddies kept ticking him for damage.

>Yea Forums used to shit on this sjw game that pushes a tranny agenda and now we get constant threads after resetera trannies show up.
so they werent kidding about the discord tranny agenda

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>The main reason I go with the invulnerability build is the satisfaction of spamming attacks in their face with no fucks given.
You're teaching yourself to be shit. Just fucking laern to dodge.

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Watcher Knights are trivialized by Sharp Shadow

It's a fucking joke because Uumuu is one of the most fun bosses.

Good they can do so many things, it will be kino no matter what they chose to do

this is our board now cracker get used to it

no, only connections to cryatal peak are

>dirtmouth elevator AFTER you activate from inside
>the drop from the peak into resting grounds
>crossroads which need desolate dive, which you cant get into city of tears without dash

Yes, you can finish the game without obtaining the dash. Requires a lot of autism, though.

>You're teaching yourself to be shit
I'll keep on going until it stops working. Honestly, seeing what people say about the pantheon bosses, it won't take long until I have to actually get good.

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pre-patch godmaster Uumuu > Absolute Radiance > PV > NKG

>and we all know Hornet is not hollow and big bro is dead
>big bro is dead

*ahem*

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>the dark cave with a toll machine that only requires a lantern (money)
C'mon.

It's going to be so hard for you that you are going to quit.

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> implying the heartless bitch didn't just kill him without a second thought right then and there

You're forgetting about the alternative lantern access from the Crossroads.

They are not going to use the ending of a DLC that very few people bothered to finish. I would like to, but it's not gonna happen user.

bait

I can be very persistent if it's a game I like but if it's much harder than Furi on Furier mode than quitting is a possibility not gonna lie.

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>pre-patch godmaster Uumuu > Absolute Radiance
Hahaha. No. Not even close. Uumuu was easy even back then, it's literally impossible to take damage from him because his attacks are so easy to dodge. He's basically the only fight in the game where you have to take it slowly, which might explain why people couldn't deal with him.

I could see them doing it for Silksoul mode as a bonus.

Fight me fag, Markoth and Uumuu on original patch were annoying as fuck

Yes, Uumuu was annoying. Not hard. There's a large difference.

they really should though. real talk, i didn't even finish godmaster myself, but letting shitters dictate canonicty is an objectively bad thing.

also, pic related is triggering the fuck out of me and i'm not sure why.

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So Absolute Radiance is just a bit of luck based too, correct? I'm practising now and sometimes, I just get a lucky set of easy moves to dodge, and others, it's just physically impossible, the balls, swords from the side, and bottom things all spawning, in a manner of just complete luck. The entire 5th pantheon leading up to a luck based fight is a little bit annoying, If only every fight in this game was like the sisters of battle, or NKG. The fact that first phase leads into the second and third, which are even more like that is just so hard to get through. Kills all hype to try and get the 5th pantheon done. If it led and ended on pure vessel that would be perfect.

>cah-non-ik-tee
>not cah-non-i-ci-tee
Because you're objectively retarded?

Thanks for making me feel better. I'm trash at HK but even I managed to beat him on my first try.

Radiant AR is definitely luck based.

Normal AR though can be consistently beat. You just have to play by her rules. She's the only boss that legitimately forces a player to cower before her as a playstyle.

Fuck me that's a good way to put it user. Extended instead to AR though. Reg R is managable and of the same tier as Pure Vessel.

Well, that just kills any motivation to continue. Why would I keep trying something which already takes so long, to get to a luck based fight? I fucking love learning all the other bosses, and that feeling when you get them, but if AR is just luck based, then, I dunno man. Feels a bit cheap, will keep trying but the fact it takes what.. 30 mins or so? to get to fucking AR, and that is hard in itself, for it to be just be HAHA LUCK ;) start again

please god just have more fights like sisters of battle in silksong

Even trying to rushdown facetank Uumuu like the tard you are makes me STILL doubt you can seriously place it above Absolute Radiance. You either have not gotten to her or said fuck it after barely getting into her second stage once.

That would be stupid. Why would they bother putting a cliffhanger like that if they're not going to use it, specially when the original Knight is loved by the fandom.

There's not enough RNG to kill you in the pantheon, just to make radiant a bitch.

Markoth into Zote is my second run killer, I just cannot handle Markoth either.

Holy based. Fuck moths.

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If you guys are having trouble with a boss, why don't you just youtube how other people beat them and then copy exactly what they did? That's what I've been doing.

The lack of lewds in this Hollow Knight thread disappoint me.

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>not cah-non-i-ci-tee

but that's what i searched for

That's radiant AR.

For normal AR always follow these rules:
Actively dodge towards the light wall so that it doesn't overlap with other attacks.
Stay very wary of her body because it shoots out attacks fast especially so during the platform phase.
Always stay in the bottom middle area during the platform phase. Rarely risk chasing after her.
Descending Dark is your best friend.
Stay wary of orbs passing through platforms during the platforming phase.
At the final phase let the orbs go above your head to fly off screen.
It's okay to get hit. Her laser attacks are the best time to heal.
Only Abyss Shriek immediately after she attacks and you dodge them.

I mean, it's not like it's something like a 70-30% split. That cliffhanger is something that 99.92% of player didn't see. The fandom would be confused as to why the Knight is now a void horror beast. Hiding it behind Pantheon of Hallownest was always going to bite them in the ass.

>Optional intro if it detects a Godmaster ending.
>Throws you straight into a bossfight against non-infected HK.
>Song cultists get the jump on you both and capture you.
>Game starts proper.

Reminder Moths are cute, fluffy, friendly and super harmless friends.

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He is most probably french.

How the fuck would HK work as a bossfight when he's using his nail to support his broken body? That's stupid.

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FUCK MOTHS

>You made me use my full power tier
>lost kin
what? Maybe if you don't use the odor charm, otherwise it's You Tried tier. Try White Defender in his last stage if you're putting lost kin that high

Why didn't Pale King just dick Radiance like he did everyone else?

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I mean, Radiance in Godmaster still is inside of the Hollow Knight, who was brought back to his prime. So maybe it somehow "healed" him, even if just a little.

I'M GONNA SAY THE M WORD

It wouldnt be a very hard one, and you'd be interrupted mid-fight.

Radiance after godmaster has been straight up obliterated bro.

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Based.
I feel bad for the moth tribe.

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whoops, i only remembered that there was a toll on the inside and not also the entrance

Not the Radiance healed him, being brought back to his prime form in Godhome maybe did. I don't know. He does get his pure nail back.

>maybe if you don't use the odor charm
Yeah, Lost Kin assraped me until I realized that the ghost thingies were the ones fucking me over. I put him that high because he was the only boss who really made me try my hardest. Hollow Knight was a big disappointment.

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>Tiny grimmchild sized radiance.
I want it.

No you're not understanding it properly
Godseekers call forth the idealised versions of the various 'gods' of hallownest.
It only applies during the dream.
That's why you can fight things even though they're all dead.

>this sjw game
0/10, try harder

>adventures of the Hollow Knight with a playful Grimmchild and a tsundere mini-Radiance in search of his father

I am
what?
I just jump over his lasers and attack him from the same side but I always die because I touch him or when he does the multiple lasers + his target laser

but mainly because I cant heal I think I should just buy shit from that blind nibba

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>having the avatar of dreams and the avatar of nightmares together
How bothersome, they will be fighting constantly.

Why is Radiant blushing?

I mean yes, you're right. But Grimm attended willingly, and killing the Radiance there does kill her in the "real world". You could argue it's because it's a dreamworld but the game makes the effort to have you defeat the HK before getting to the her. Shade Lord also leak out on hiw own. So I think it's possible that what happens in Godhome has a influence on the real world.

>not wanting two cute powerful god sidekicks that endlessly banter to keep you company as you venture the wastelands beyond Hallownest.

She is happy to be on top

What happens in godhome is complicated.
The HK is sealing the radiance in the real world.
You need to attune to the HK before being able to face the Radiance, but to attune to the HK you need to work your way up through lesser gods.
Attunement requires beating the shit out of him.
You do that, and he steps aside allowing you to fight her 1v1 at full power.

Attuning to Absolute Radiance (You can hear the godtuner ringing throughout the fight, in the final phase it's the only sound) causes you to become the God of Gods.
You kill the Radiance, which kills the infection in the real world.
Because you're still inhabiting the godseekers dream, the sudden increase in power overwhelms her body completely, causing void to burst out of her.

I've beaten the radiance, and I actually fucking hate 2nd hornet. Idk what it is but without shadow dash I can't get a handle on the bitch.

>"Fuck niggers and fuck casuals"
-Anonymous 2019

Pic related has to mean something lore wise. Is he composed of all the Grimmchildren that get born during the ritual? What difference does Banishment vs completing the Ritual make for Grimm himself?

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Assumedly Grimm is either a time or space traveler amassing new children to improve himself??
I have no idea what the purpose of the whole ritual is but you're probably right that each new kingdom or world or whatever he visits is a new child to add to his being from the ritual

And their fights would blossom into romance

christopherlarkin.bandcamp.com/track/the-grimm-troupe
>tfw 1:10
The music intensifying for his balloon attack is amazing.

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>Banish
You banish him from hallownest, he can't come back there unless a new latern is built
>Ritual
You complete the ritual, the scarlet flame is reborn inside the Grimmchild

>destroys your lore
What? How? I am not following you.