No plans to change the fight money system

Another dark age for fighting games and then maybe they'll try again

Some time soon I hope
Give us something that isn't auto combo or 2-button garbage like what's out now

>BAAAAAAAWWWWWW I HAVE TO PLAY THE GAME TO UNLOCK SHIT
Boohoo, nigga.

ST was the last good sf

Getting FM wasn't too bad before they changed the system

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>Still have to pay real money for alternate costumes, more stages and the last character after paying £50 to get just the fucking characters

Eat a dick you fucking faggot

Capcom is pulling out of making fighting games. They'll probably just loan out the characters from time to time.

that's not even the case anymore. they took out all the weekly events you could do to get more money, so all that's left is the tutorials and survival mode or the measly 50 fm you get per win. maybe after levelling the characters you have through the single player modes you'd have enough for 3 or so characters but that's it

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Except that's wrong, you dumb nigger. You can get all of that with FM save for premium costumes. Granted, they gimped FM hard, but it's not like you don't make anything.

Wait really? I feel out early-mid S2 but kinda kept up with it loosely. Thats crazy.

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>Beg that the game dies off
>Complain when the game is dying off

Some Capcom spokesperson (I think it was Matt) said Capcom is not done with SFV.

Im not fucking wrong you autistic cunt, wait there

*farts*

who? literally play any other fightan and you are good, tekken, gg and ki are amazing, more people should play KI

KI 2(4) when?

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Costumes with no option to pay with fight money

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>3d trash
>airdash trash

KI is good though, but as far as 2D fighters go, there's still nothing like SF

Couple Stages with no option to pay with fight money

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>save for premium costumes
Guess what you're looking at. And don't act like costumes for SFIV didn't exist.

Literally just two stages, and you don't even know why that's the case.

Background music with no option to pay with fight money

I wouldn't care if I had only bought the base game but when I spent £80 total on this garbage game, I would expect everything

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>moving the goal post

I feel like capcom is basically going to try to make IV 2.0 with the next game. If that's a good thing is up to you I guess. 2009 was ten years ago, we have reached the point of people being nostalgic for IV, as weird as it is, and I see Capcom trying to cash in on that.

>additional content comes at a price
No shit.

Which goalposts? I already specified what can and can't be bought with FM. You're simply a brainlet with underdeveloped reading comprehension.

Letting them of the hook whatsoever when I spent 80 fucking pounds on this shit game and didn't even get all the content
I got the base game and the arcade edition dlc, so i'd say im pretty valid in how fucking dumb this shit is

Smash Bros Ultimate, for £20 I'll get 6 characters, 5 stages and all new music

Street fighter 5 for £50 I got like 7 new character most of which where available in the previous game

>arcade edition dlc
Eh? Genuinely curious how you could pay for a free update. Arcade Edition is nothing but the base game plus the first two season passes. So either you got the base game or you didn't.

>gg
i love guilty gear but nobody plays that shit, you have to make do with getting crushed in sketchy lobbies most of the time
>ki
i could probably count the number of people playing KI right now on my fingers

tekken is the only real option desu senpai

How come Ultimate is so cheap and SFV is so expensive? Doesn't add up. Also, everything in Smash plays, looks and sounds like shit. But hey, there's more of it, so it's better right?

Hold up you retarded ape man
The arcade deluxe edition was an expansion if you owned the base game, I got that, which cost £50 and I got new characters and nothing else

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is Fei long out yet ?

If you did some actual reading, you'd know that "Arcade Edition Deluxe" means "AE + season pass 3". Moron.

>Thinking SFV looks good

>Thinking Smash bros ultimate looks and plays poorly

Smash ultimate has more and higher quality everything

>£50 for a season pass
What a crock of bullshit

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>Smash ultimate has more and higher quality everything
Oh, you're blind, deaf and stupid. Smash is definitely the game for you then.

And you can't read.

£50 for a single season pass is inexcusable, considering it didn't have any more than the original 2 passes

I have yet to see actual proof he paid as much as he claimed.

Jesus christ you elitist cunt, there's nothing about Street Fighter 5 specifically which is better than smash,
Smash is more stylised, has a shit ton more music, wide variety of character and literally 5x more content than SFV

>Pic related

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In you can see it says 'start' instead of buy which means it was purchased

It's still Smash and therefore all shit.

>pic related
As expected, you're a moron who can't read. You didn't pay 50 bucks for one season pass. It's Arcade Edition (which is the base game + S1 + S2) plus Season Pass 3. Thanks for the confirmation.

>Disregarding an entire game series based on your own retarded opinion
You're the worst type of degenerate

Also I already owned the base game and there was no option to just get the free update, to get the arcade edtition you needed to pay that

I wish I didn't get Sakura with my FM

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The age of 3D games is here you brainlets

the fact that i'm seeing someone echoing my feelings about the game for the last few months here instead of posting butts concerns me.

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I hated this game so much I got a refund through my Bank cause steam refused to refund past 2 hours.

Literally the dumbest fighting game ever made. Mortal Kombat 1 is more engaging in 2019 than SFV is in 2019.

legit criticisms but nobody is on the other end promoting the game so it's a toothless thread. practically dead game and even the sf/fgc community has pretty much moved on.

If you already owned the base game you'd get that update free automatically. If you bought that version of the game after already owning it, idk what to tell you. You coulda just bought the normal season pass.

Sorry man, that's wrong. AE was a free update for owners of the base game. There's literally no difference between versions except for the amount of content you can access right off the bat. It's not like in previous entries where not owning Super Street Fighter IV locked you out of playing with the newest characters and balance updates. If you owned the base game already, it would have been much cheaper just getting the season passes.

Nice headcanon. SFV still sports the most views and entrants at tournaments.

Is that a bad thing?

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Might have been the bullshit playstation store, I had the arcade edition update visible but it said I couldn't use it I guess cause I had costumes I'd bought or some shit so the only option was to get that

>"We should simplify the game for casuals!"
>Gut every single character to fulfill archetype roles instead of just being their own character
>But still make every character viably able to rushdown, even the hard zoners
>Become unbalanced as fuck
lol

twitch viewership is basically 0. for the average non top tier competitor the game is dead. just because people play sf3 on fightcade doesnt mean its not dead.

Forever embarrassed that SFV was the first fighting game I tried to learn properly, wish I'd started sooner with USF4 or later with Tekken 7

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>twitch viewership is basically 0
Regularly beats Tekken 7 and DBFZ when there's no tournament going on.

so do all games, daily viewer count is practically 0

>mfw dropped SFV and playing GG and SCVI instead
finna pick up unist too. Feels good playing games with actual variety of character playstyles.

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woops i mean who gives a shit those other games are also dead. besides i dont think literally 150 views at peak is something to be proud of.

>Forever embarrassed that SFV was the first fighting game I tried to learn properly
Why?

Tekken is still alive. New update in a few days and it isn't a bad place to start.

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I stopped buying characters because I'd always go back to playing the same one. Of course now I have nothing to spend FM on.

Oh, you're a Smash autist then. You must be lost, this is a fighting game thread.

>>MvCI was rushed cash-in shit
Wasn't it because of Disney?
>>SFV was rushed with nothing at launch
SFV actually had the shit FGC cared about. No dumb story mode (which nobody really cares about), it was all about a game itself. Basically what Yea Forums asks for all the time.
Allegedly the game has some fundamental issues but I'm not going to pretend like I know much about fighting games or what/if Capcom improved over the years

no i am a super platinum player in street fighter 5 and im just not that optimistic. not that much fun to be had now that most of the twitch community is dead. also 6/8 of my games are against 3 bar connection brazillians after 10 minute queueus.

Uniest is one of the best fighting games in the past decade.

>Allegedly the game has some fundamental issues
You can say that. I'm among those who actually like the game, but calling the launch rocky would be generous. You couldn't even have lobbies during the first week. It was pathetic.

Personally, I wasn't happy with the initial roster.

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>No balance patches for at least a while
S4 basically just started. Are you retarded?
They also already announced a patch to fix the Blanca bug so what are you even implying with this?

>Allegedly the game has some fundamental issues

No improvement to netcode to SFIV
Matchmaking is somehow way worse than SFIV
Input lag was obscene at launch (has been reduced once or twice in subsequent patches)
Reversals are shit and combos are easy to execute so the game is ridiculously momentum-heavy
Animations are jank and hitboxes straight up make no sense

It's just not a good game.

basically what happened was the bad netcode and the fact that they removed most of the mechanics from sf4 to simplify the game.

the game is basically oki and 50/50s from 90% of the cast outside of guile/menat. not that fun compared to sf4.

Yeah, except SFIV was WAY more oki-heavy due to dumb shit like hard knockdowns. In comparison, SFV resets much more often to neutral.

People complained about SF4 too though. It wasn't until Super (which was kinda huge) that it got decent. Kinda liked how 09ers tried to force the term "16ers", really elaborate
What did they remove except for the focus attack?

Street Fighter V is basically 1-D fighter, even at the highest possible form of play. Forward and back are all that matter, 1 axis. Jumping basically always loses against Anti-Air attacks as a defacto statement, and overheads are so slow, negative or 0 on hit, that they can't reliably be used against crouch opponents who can just stand on reaction.

Did anyone play that retarded Matrix game where it had the "dodge all" button? Holding down back in SFV is basically the same thing.

e honda when

>They also already announced a patch to fix the Blanca bug
Are you implying that's a good thing? Fixing a game breaking bug should be something fixed immediately and has nothing to do with balance patches.

>scrubquotes.txt

I wish that were true. you obviously haven't hit the point where every knows timed meaties. not to mention the lame neutral game and dumb priority system of the buttons with akuma spamming crouching hard punch crush counter into full punish combo ad nauseum.

No that's literally just SFV_design_doc.pdf

priority system heavy/medium/light, v trigger and v reversal are poorer mechanics than ultra meter. on launch or whenever the fuck it was the game had no invincible uppercuts.

Do you reach that point before or after Diamond?

at diamond the meaty game is pretty tight. plat tiers are understanding frame data and diamond is about timed meaties and setups.

I got Cody and G first, just in case. I do enjoy G a lot though.

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No really, I will even explain you why. You're complaining about not being able to jump in all the time, which is standard scrub behavior. Same goes for complaints about your opponenets "spamming block". And overheads are meant to be slow because they're highly situational.

50% of the cast has shit antiairs in V so i don't think it's really that much of a problem. not to mention that anti airing online with the input lag is pretty hard. maybe when anti air jab was a thing jumping in was hard, but then again it was a reset to neutral so you weren't getting blasted for it.

Nah man I know, Tekken is my main game now. Can't wait for Julia

Cause it's Garbo.

>there are people asking for a new game
>when Crapcom's policy is to release a bunch of revisions and now dlc
>when the base games have always a ridiculous small amount of content, with most numbered SFs having a roster with less than 10 characters

Yeah, start all over. Wait 4 more years to have a roster of over 30 characters and more modes.

>priority system heavy/medium/light
People weren't really fond of that. People just used light attacks to get the combo going (or mashed it)

This game is the first Street Fighter game I've ever played semi seriously and I still managed to reach Diamond in like 1 month. Shit is braindead af.

>dumb priority system of the buttons with akuma spamming crouching hard punch crush counter into full punish combo ad nauseum.
The priority system only affects buttons that would trade otherwise. Most of the time you don't even notice it. It also has very little to do with Akuma players using cr. HP a lot, it's simply a great button. Crush Counters are nowhere near as strong as they used to be anyway, but if you want to avoid them, stop mashing on wakeup.

neutral game in 5 is worse. period. so it doesn't matter what anyone said in that brief moment of time. if you play it you will see what their and my criticism is.

Is she bad? I was avoiding buying characters with FM(had over 300k), but I really wanted her and Cody, but I was waiting for 10 or 15 doritos sale for S3 pack so I could save that FM for other shit.

She used to be really bad. She's okay now.

you don't even know what you're talking about because you're bringing up oki game when i'm talking about neutral.

why is it a great button? does it make sense that he is using his most powerful combo starter as a spam move in the neutral. think about it.

>so it doesn't matter what anyone said in that brief moment of time

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she is a more simple and weaker version of akuma. she isn't low tier enough to ruin the game experience for you and she is easy enough to pick up and become competent to play with quickly. it just depends on how much of a tier whore you are.

>the 2D virgin
>the 3D chad

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>it's a "if a game doesn't have 3,000 people pnline it's literally dead"
As long as a game has a hundred or so it's perfectly playable.

t. fightcadefag who has to deal with eight people being online at times

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because you were bringing up shit that people said briefly in 4 when they have had like 5 years in contact with 5 to change their opinion. nobody likes the neutral game in 5 including professional players like infiltration, etc. who cares what some random said about button priority in 4. it feels like shit in 5 if you played it yo uwould understand exactly what the cirticism is and what kind of gameplay it creates.

And you don't know what you're talking about since you obviously don't know what the priority system entails. Doesn't matter if oki or neutral, if you get hit with cr. HP all the time it means you're pushing too many buttons. Akuma's cr. HP has a long startup and is now easier to whiff punish than ever, so I don't really get the complaints. In fact, Akuma players are easy targets since the character has little health and few players know how to properly use him.

no because you're dealing with a mature community of players with 10,000 hours on the game so it's very inconvenient and unfun for you to get into it as a new player.

is it "dead" obviously not, but is it growing? obviously not.

Can't stay in silver in 2019 without meaties. Another retarded part about SFV's dumb shit is it's online and ranking system. The only people in really high ranks are legacy players who have been playing from the beginning. There is no way to catch up to them if you started playing after Arcade Edition came out. And since SFV matches players on rank rather than proximity, you're bound to be eternally locked out from playing against the people who have actually been playing the game in your region. You'll mostly only get laggy foreigners.

Even if you get marched with someone in your region, you still priority match against people in your similar colored rank, even though the difference between Color and Ultra Color is often hundreds or thousands of games and in-game weeks worth of play experience. You rank up to a new color and get matched against an ultra, then deranked right back where you came.
This also presents an issue that legacy players mostly get matched with other legacy players who play the game to a certain bias that isn't actually related to skill. Diamonds and up will often kick anyone below Diamond in Battle Lounges not because they know it wouldn't be a challenge, but because most people below diamond are not legacy players and play the game to it's current retarded meta rather than a bias of vicariously trying to play SF4 or Season1 SF5, and most legacy players lose against golds and silvers in Battle Lounge because of it.

SFV is just a fuckin stupid motherfucking game. It's like 1-piece checkers but also leaping doesn't work cause the game autocorrects inputs against sideswitches.

you just don't get it and i don't care to explain it to you. oki and neutral are two distinct parts of the game. priority system never mattered on oki because you use a timed meaty so your hardest moves would hit frame perfect and he can't contest it with any button even if it is 3 frames (fastest moves in the game).

You're literally just defending SFV.

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For me I'll play people one hundred times and lose every match in some cases, it's part of getting better. You take your losses and examine them.

no he isnt

>shit that people said briefly in 4 when they have had like 5 years in contact with 5 to change their opinion.
What?

well the player base has moved downwards and a lot of people smurf. silver is like what gold was a year ago. timed meaties are different. they are setups after your bnb combos where you can continue putting your opponent into a 50/50 situation.

say for example i use crouching light punch into light aurora slash as a bnb. now i have so many frames and i know exactly how many frames that i have to hit frame perfect on his wakeup. it's above and beyond the level of gameplay that a silver player is at. a good player knows this information for all of his moves.

Yes, and we have moved past that point already. It has no bearing on the discussion. You get hit with cr. HP a lot, you suck. That's all there is to it.

You sound like someone who heard a couple of FG terms at some point and now he thinks he can play with the big boys. You're clearly namedropping terms you only have a rough understanding of.

bro if you don't get the discussion you don't get it. i already explained the priority system to the other guy. it's a fairly sophisticated discussion if you are a person who doesn't have a lot of time with the game you just won't get it.

i don't even know who you were quoting, but the majority of pro players agree that neutral game in sfv is weak and CC has been nerfed in balance patches for that reason.

It's kinda amazing how they fucked up the music in SFV too.
I mean I know that most characters just have their original theme but you can't even really hear anything ingame and even when you listen to the soundtrack itself, it's not very clear either. You could change all the tracks into one and I bet most people wouldn't even notice it.
Not true if the opponent is leagues above you and trashes you completely

Okay. What other fighting game exists thay abides by those rules?
>slow, worthless overheads
>worthless jump attacks
>basically hold downback to protect your ass against everything

name one.

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don't feel intimidated it doesn't really matter its just a game. i'm glad you havent put the hours into the game to get that level of knowledge about this shit, i don't think the game at the higher levels of play is really that engaging. mostly your turn my turn kind of shit. who cares.

So by "brief moment" you meant in the actual discussion in this thread? I don't really get what you're trying to say with your post and you go on about something else, so I assume it's a misundersanding.

Yes, i know. Like i said, that is a silver tactic. You wont stay in silver without that.

congrats you are a very small minority of person

>It's kinda amazing how they fucked up the music in SFV too.
Okay, we're getting into legit shitposting territory now. SFV may have many weaknesses, but the soundtrack is rock solid.

>inb4 cherry picking Juri's theme

I like Cody's Theme, at least

obviously you don't understand my discussion so ignore it. it's like talking about calculus with a geometry student. no offense. move along.

When will you people realize that artists are not programmers?

There's no reason for you to act superior. You are wrong and I am right. And I'm sure I could beat you in both SFV and T7.

The ost is the only reason someone would want to continue playing the game until realizing that shit is on youtube.

Forever seething that it still holds the spotlight when countless other, better fighting games are out right now.

you have absolutely no understanding of what i'm talking about. i just pushed a smurf account to gold with zeku with absolutely no understanding of the character's frame data so i have already disproven you.

whatever dude, i want to talk about the game mechanics and obviously you don't care about it so move on.