When did you realize that indie games are superior to AAA games?

Yas?

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When-
Hold up this thread is about cat bussy isn't it

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This thread is about what I said in the OP post.

>son
>him

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lil barbs

What makes you think that? Do not sexualize the Nico

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what would the original text be?

>Op picture unrelated.

But to answer the question, when Rain World and Hollow Knight came out.

I will now fap to your character

I want to power bottom that car!
With headpats and ear scratches!

>Rain World
>Hollow Knight
>Super Cloudbuilt
>Darkwood
>West of Loathing
>Nex Machina
>Pyre
>Shovel Knight: Specter of Torment

2017 was a magical year

There was so much more, I should make a list

AAA - high quality, but no soul
indie - low quality, but soul

>indie - low quality
No

I already got it m8 (assuming we're talking indies)
>Super Cloudbuilt
>Rain World
>Darkwood
>Hollow Knight
>Divinity: Original Sin 2
>What Remains of Edith Finch
>Nex Machina
>Everspace
>West of Loathing
>Detention
>Little Nightmares
>Ruiner
>Hidden Folks
>Golf Story
>SteamWorld Dig 2
>Pyre
>A Hat in Time
>Heat Signature
>Card City Nights 2
>OneShot: Solstice
>Shovel Knight: Specter of Torment
I have one for 2018 too
>Lethal League Blaze
>Runner3
>CrossCode
>ZeroRanger
>Frozen Synapse 2
>Pit People
>Into the Breach
>Guacamelee! 2
>Iconoclasts
>Mothergunship
>Overload
>Celeste
>The Banner Saga 3

So much more. You're missing so much my dude.

But HK was fucking boring.
It's not a metroidvania when the only thing that's good is bosses and not exploration.

NIKO IS CUTE
but i thought Niko didn't have a sex or gender unless being a cat counts

It's honestly a mixed bag some like Lisa the painful have those sprity graphics but then there is the occasional unique gem like hat in time or cuphead.

Nico's gender is _Nico_!

So he likes it in the ass. So what?

I’ve never really cared for AAA games, desu. I play a few of them every once and a while but indies are so much more willing to take risks or make something that appeals to my autism or even just do some thing new for once that I pretty much only play indies. Never got why people shit on indie games as a whole when there’s just so many of them of different qualities and genres.
Niko is MY son

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i think he means production value and GRAFIKZ user

And I don't understand how it's either "AAA BEST" or "AAA SUCKS".

I play all kinds of games.

There’s...something psycho about that cat.

There are plenty of indie games with really good graphics.

Food for thought.

Consider Niko a guy so you don’t have nearly as much people lewding him.

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like cutting edge 3d hardware-pushing graphics
aesthetics don't count

THERE'S SO MANY GAMES
WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE

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Well most of it is probably how 4cchsn encourages exaggerating your opinions and shitposting in order to get (you)s and attention. Having a moderate and reasonable opinion rarely results in discussion here

Something like Witchfire

you mean like
?

>Consider Niko a guy so you don’t have nearly as much people lewding him
It's the other way around...

>literally confirmed catgirl
>Yea Forums still holding onto the gay meme

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This a lie that poorfags tell themselves to justify not owning a good PC

>literally confirmed catgirl
No

looks fun, but isn't exactly a graphical powerhouse, and this level of graphical fidelity is far from the norm in indie games

not a single art of him with kitty peepee
really sad

Is there such a thing as cute but not fuckable? Provide examples.

I heard this also.

Kinda interpreted it as the artist/dev’s personal headcanon. It was on his tumblr, but he has since deleted the blog.

To my knowledge, the people that worked on Oneshot have kinda just left it alone after Solistice.

2017

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Hello Kitty?

>isn't exactly a graphical powerhouse

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>Darkwood
wait, darkwood came out in 2017? only two years ago?
Was it in early access or something? I swear I saw first review of it in somwhere 2015

he asked for examples of cute things that aren't fuckable, user.
Try again sweetie :))))))

oh my god you colossal liar

2019 is looking pretty promising too so far
>Sunless Skies
>Wargroove
>Ion Maiden
>Indivisible
>Wasteland 3
>Sea of Solitude
>Windjammers 2
>Noita
>Sable
>Risk of Rain 2
>Griftlands (maybe)

+ so much more!!

niko niko nii is a boy

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Indies games are worse

And by looking at this thread it shows you dont care about ganeplay and only care about furry trap porn

Kill yourself

That’s exactly my point.

Each and every thing has at least one person in the whole wide world that wants to fuck it.

And if you can’t find him, he lives in a third-world country.

Indie games have better gameplay than AAA games.

I have a 1080ti, 7700k, and 16gb of RAM
And I play indie games.

are you
or
?

840??

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I think at the moment, the best AAA games ever made are leagues better than the best Indies but a higher frequency of Indies are playable to begin with.

Wrong, GoW shits on all indie games which are basic ass platformers

damn man at least try

>Wrong, GoW shits on all indie games which are basic ass platformers

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>best AAA games ever made are leagues better than the best Indies

In the gameplay department? Fuck no. RDR2 as example number one in creating mediocre as fuck gameplay systems and not having gameplay as the more important factor

Do you think there is someone out there that would fuck me, user?

>Naughty Dog game
>Gameplay

>GoW
>Naughty Dog

guess i was just confuzzled
that sounded like something 97 should be saying

Go back to tumblr with your gender bullshit and take this garbage game with you

>RDR2
Is also not even in the top 100 greatest AAA games ever made.
It's only even the best of its contemporaries because of no competition what so ever
But Dark Souls is AAA and it was massively influential on indie games gameplay

what did he mean by this, user?
i pray for you user

You’re basically the spitting image of one of your ancestors.

And if they didn’t get laid, you wouldn’t be here.

So yes.

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indie shit is equally as bad as aaa. japan is carrying this industry all by themselves as usual.

>implying a character has to have a penis or vagina
man i bet you hate slimes

Dark Souls isn't AAA. It's AA.

It's not as easy to get away with rape anymore user

t. pol election tourist that brings politics into every Yea Forums - Video Games thread

Call me when indies can make something other than a 2d platformer/shooter/puzzle or whatever the fuck brainlets make when they don't have the skill to build and plan in 3d.

Metal gear is the worst franchise ever made
Metal gear is the worst franchise ever made
Metal gear is the worst franchise ever made

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Thanks! I actually feel much better from that.
Perhaps I'll try going to a party or some shit next weekend.

Yeah but I can't into arranged marriage or whatever they were using
The dicklet is relevant now

Here you go. youtube.com/watch?v=-zqjNkdXT94

That's just one example. There are many many many more.

>Bundai/namco
Uhh ok

>implying games need to be 3d to be good
t. sony moviefag

Look into your crystal ball again, user.

Tell me the chances of both

1) that the other user has a rape in their family tree

and

2) the ancestor they resemble is the one that was raped.

There are many 3D indie games, user... you really didn't know that?

SOMA, A Hat in Time, Furi, RiME, Praye of the Gods, Little Devil Inside, No Man's Sky, etc.

Nah, I have a decent PC and I by far prefer indies and AA to AAA.
Even when it comes to graphics Jap AA games can easily compete with high end western AAA games.
>But Dark Souls is AAA
BHAHAHAHAHAH
No, Dark Souls is AA, you retards who think there is only AAA and indie need to fuck off.
Gaming was at its peak when it was full of great AA developers with a few household names, this proliferation of AAA shit didn't really begin until gen 7 when everyone realized that vidya can make tons of cash.

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i'll gladly take any metal gear game over any indie "game" any day of the week.
indie shills would be the experts on cringe.

Yes? Is something wrong? Do you perhaps have little information about AAA, AA, etc?

>user learns for the first time that B titles were a thing

I don't know why everyone calls them AA now, but that's what they are

I played the whole game thinking Niko was a girl it wasn't until after the fact that i learned that the general consensus was that it was a boy this fag says its confirmed but i cant find shit about it

>i'll gladly take any metal gear game over any indie "game" any day of the week.
Then you're a generic faggot.

What indie games are you looking forward to?
I'm looking forward to Risk of Rain 2, Noita, Carrion, Hollow Knight: Silksong, Darkest Dungeon 2 and Deltarune

>liking "indie pixel metroidvania with souls combat #5000" makes me unique!

Shit guys, you heard it here first, pic related is now a AAA game because user said so.
It's published by Banmco, therefore it HAS to be AAA, because we all know that every game published by THQ back in the day was totally a AAA affair.

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>Noita
>RoR2
>Sable
>Griflands
>Hollow Knight: Silksong
>Windjammers 2
>Indivisible
>Phoenix Point

I didn't say that I'm particularly special.
It's just you have to be particularly not special to like metal queer

i don't even like it that much, but it's still objectively better than the indie crap that gets paraded on here.

TUNIC
Little Devil Inside
Praye for the Gods
Witchfire

And probably a hundred more.

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No.

the developers have gone on record saying that niko isn't a boy or girl

Tunic looks so fucking good.

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>the indie crap that gets paraded on here.
The place is 90% "[fotm AAA title] really is actually good :) why are people who like it just jealous:)" threads

>Indies have made a billion remixes/homages to old 2d classics like NES/SNES Zelda, Castlevania, Ninja Gaiden, Megaman
>There's like two Mario 64 based indies and nothing for everything else.

Is it really that much harder to replicate old 3d games, or are programmers all boomers that don't have nostalgia for the 3d era of games?

You could've at least posted a good game, OP

Niko is a good boy.

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>Not Zelda #8292917621973413
Whoa.... so this is the power..... of indies

Cute character in a bad game, yes

>Risk of Rain 2
I'm super looking forward to the OST, if the previous game and the trailer is anything to go by its gonna be fucking greatyoutube.com/watch?v=CYHY-VuyWdM

Looks so much better than any Zelda.

Looks better than link's awakening 2019

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not really. most threads about anything that isn't a nintendo exclusive or a cheap indie game that can run on a toaster is either full of tortanicfags hoping for it to fail or people celebrating its actual failure.

>user actually thinks all indies are 2d pixels
Poor soul.

Not an argument retarded indie hipsters

Now run along to your indie game aboyt depression and teen angst

I'm looking forward for Kaze and the Wild Masks, Freedom Planet 2 and Tunic.

You're so mad.

>oy
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Are you anons really only looking forward to couple indies? I feel like I constantly discover new things and my wishlist on Steam has over 100 indie games right now.

Well, there's a difference between 'looking forward' and 'looks interesting'. If you mean the later I should also have like a hundred.

Said the indie hipster mad vast majority of people prefer AAA games

pls gif game

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>vast majority of people prefer AAA games
I don't know, lately so many AAA seem to have failed pretty badly, while Hollow Knight Silksong trailer already has over 60k likes.

I think people's tastes are changing.

>Wave Break
>Generation Zero
>Mordhau
>GTFO
>That weird upcoming fantasy RPG whose gimmick is that you're just a normal dude in a fantasy world, forget what it's called
>Sui Generis (if that ever even comes out)
>Possibly Fimbul
>RAM Pressure
>Witchfire
>Steel Division 2
>Hopefully Descent
>Underrail Expedition
>Iron Harvest
>My Friend Pedro
>Sakuna of Rice and Ruin (I know it's published by XSeed, but it may as well be indie, it's an Edelweiss game)
>Whatever the fuck Temtem is
Praey for the Gods is already out I think.

store.steampowered.com/app/843380/Super_Animal_Royale/?curator_clanid=24223269

Did anybody here check it out? Is it good?

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God I hope it's good

>spidey sells 10 million at $60
>indie shit barely sells million at $5

Sad! If indies are so great why aren't they $60? Their quality should be well worth the price right

When I spend over 300 hours in an indie early access co-op game playing as a dwarf killing bugs and mining crystals and when I bought Dusk and Amid Evil and realised they're infinitely more enjoyable than all of the triple A, console trash FPS that came out in the last 10 years.

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Are there any indie musou games? Seems like a simple genre to program, but I guess there's not much draw if you're not playing the established franchise.

cuck

Marketing, user. The average price of a high quality indie game is 15 bucks, not 5.

Why are you so angry? AAA industry is crashing, so it's better to just start loving indies.

the published ones are already so bad they may as well be indies

>It's not a metroidvania when the only thing that's good is bosses and not exploration.

That's weird, there is a ton to explore in Hollow Knight, maybe you're not good enough at exploring... i mean, you can finish this game without exploring any place easily, yet you can also spend hours looking at every corner in the map, the whole thing is full of secrets.

>AAA industry is crashing, so it's better to just start loving indies.
why do indie shills keep pretending that it's a choice between their crap and aaa crap? japan is putting out tons of great games, including smaller aa titles. aaa and indie aren't necessary.

The high quality indie games might as well be AA.

To attempt to answer OP's question, the AAA model that began in the 2010s has created a situation where publishers and dev studios, especially western ones, bank on a couple of releases a year that have dev cycles spanning nearly an entire gen's lifetime with ridiculous development budgets in the hundreds of millions, not counting the marketing costs (also hundreds of millions). AA games have more or less ceased to exist.

Taking their place is indies - which today tend to be very high quality due to the size of the industry and how many people are invested in it, and things like crowdfunding and even publishing deals that indie studios are getting cut (likely to make up for the gap between AAA releases).

This is largely a western phenomenon, though. Japanese indies exist but they're not nearly as prominent - they don't make up this large chunk of the marketplace like western indies currently do.
However, the industry is currently very bloated and likely unsustainable. If a AAA game doesn't manage to sell several million copies to recoup costs, it's a failure. So AAA developers play it safe - it MUST sell gangbusters, so they can't take any risks by trying to do something innovative or risky. So indie games become even more appealing by daring to actually do interesting things.

Anyway, Niko is a boy and that's okay.

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>its not $60 cause no marketing telling me to buy at that price

Indie trannies are quite delusional

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>I'm proud to be able to buy cowadooty xxii for $60
O-okay..?

dumb, strawmanning, wojack poster.

>AAAfag talking about trannies
Is this a joke?

Another thing worth mentioning is that most western indies tend to be homages or even straight ripoffs of Japanese games. Hollow Knight, one of the most popular and successful indies of the decade, is a Metroidvania with a Dark Souls style presentation and setting. Freedom Planet was originally a Sonic the Hedgehog fangame. Undertale a Mother-style RPG with a battle system inspired by Touhou. Oneshot is a walkabout exploration game styled after Yume Nikki and other japanese RPG Maker games.

And who can forget Shovel Knight, the ultimate 'NES homage' that takes elements from Mega Man, Duck Tales, Castlevania, Super Mario Bros. and others - all Japanese games.
Why is this? Is it just that japanese games tend to be more 'video-gamey,' with a larger focus on gameplay elements than western games? Indies styled after western games, like Doom, or 90s PC RPGs, or point and click adventures, are far and few compared to the indie metroidvania, or the indie scrolling platformer.

i wanna fuck that cat

Anyone here played this?

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>implying Bamco gives anything a huge budget
Man its not like Jump Force came out and was even more QUALITY'D than an episode of Dragon Ball Super.

Bump

I came here for Niko lewds and you can do is stay on topic. Very disappointed lads.

Niko a pure tbqh

Niko is a boy's name, user.

Do not lewd the Niko.

Indie games are the best on PC. On consoles the first party games are best.