What's the difference between "training soldiers to desensitize" and promoting videogames that promote war and shooting?

>"training soldiers to desensitize"
Basically a solider has to shut off any feelings, emotions and morality when they are in war. They are there to kill, to attack and to defend. You can't have your soldiers breaking down when the witness a child being killed. Can't have them breaking down because they know the women they saved that day has been raped and murdered that night. Soldiers need to be on point, focused and looking at the objective ahead of them. There is no room for emotions in war. Emotions get you killed faster than you think.
>promoting videogames that promote war and shooting?
In all honesty a video game is just a simulation of what could happen in war from all perspectives and sides on the battle field. That is all.
I recon ultimately tho the difference is this. Reality. You going to lose your shit when actual bullets are flying towards you or not. Because if you can stay calm under fire. Maybe the army is for you. You going to cry and scream you want to go home. Then don't join the army.

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videogames cause sexism, not violence

What a fucking dumb reasoning.
Modern weapon R&D is about making weapons as efficient and safe as possible. We're not at the beginning of the past century, it's not about making the deadliest gas or the fattest nuke, it's about reducing risk for YOUR troops and avoiding as much their civillian casualities. Military research is now about saving lives. I'd be more morally upset if i was a chemist developing cancer treatments that have a 5000% profit margin

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Hatred was controversial because it was honest. The stupid sjws who bitched about it should have been praising it instead, because it supports their agenda of showing guns in a negative light.

Come on don't be such a defensive pussy

I fucking love video games but seeing people die, murder, war and other shit and actually being part of it in a "virtual simulation" makes you insensitive about those topics on a certain point

Why do wars still happen in modern times? Why not just talk things out? Seems a bit immature to shoot each other.

Wrong.
royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/10.1098/rsos.171474
academic.oup.com/joc/article-abstract/67/3/305/4642146?redirectedFrom=fulltext
div46amplifier.com/2017/06/12/news-media-public-education-and-public-policy-committee/
journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/1745691615592234?journalCode=ppsa

If you had finished college you'd understand.

Hatred was controversial because controversy makes good clickbait. Once the actual game came out, all hype around the game died.

Nobody fucking cares beyond a week of virtue signaling and then they move on to the next drama.

No because I'm not mentally ill and I can actually differentiate humans and a bunch of 0s and 1s.
I just wish people were more like this.

Quick reminder that there is nothing wrong with war as an industry. War is beneficial for all and it Kickstart our technological progress by decades.

Let's see some proof then, that watching simulated violence makes you insensitive about those topics. We're not here to witness your mental diarrhea, let's base this discussion on facts, you fat shit.
It's funny because fearmongering anti free speech advocates have tried to pull this non-argument for decades, about film, books and music, but all research has proved otherwise time and time again.

So let's continue to feed your misconstrued statements, am I rite? I mean, everyone knows this.

I always wanted to become a druglord but GTA showed me there's no future in that.

[citation needed]

UNATCO teaches teenagers to fight when it still seems like a game, and look at you, you're a killing machine!

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I just want some AAA games without guns.

Here's a good documentary on this issue: youtube.com/watch?v=oK158ih4smY

Video games cause autism and stupidity. Just look at Yea Forums for proof.

The "video games don't cause violence" meme is being attacked again because it's the go-to rebuttal for "video games don't cause sexism/racism/bigotry/etc"

If we can (((prove))) that video games DO cause violence then the floodgates open for everything else

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when my computer boots up at 3 AM to install updates the MS employees definitely are developing weapons and training people to kill. I am SO PISSED. started leaving the damn thing on the back porch, at least the mosquitoes appreciate the light

youtu.be/OyBNmecVtdU

>Why do wars still happen in modern times?
Um Money, power, Greed hell drugs. There are alot of reasons.
>Why not just talk things out?
Okay John.....I think the other Beatles are asking you to stop being a dick and get on with the album already.
>Seems a bit immature to shoot each other.
>A bit immature.
You don't.....get out much do you?

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lmaoing @ your lives

Just look how triggered both of you are

I bet that if some of you witness a murder or a car crash you're not even gonna blink or overreact, you're so used to see that shit that it doesn't even makes you feel empathy anymore, not only in games but in any media.

>Leaving Automatic updates on

If video games are murder simulators, then everyone who watches porn wouldn't be a virgin.

That will only happen if both sides are willing to talk to each other as equals, and there are many nations who will never accept that.

People generally do "talk things out" because of nuclear deterrence and mutual trade. The problem is when one party absolutely refuses to talk and they don't have nukes to exert their will, like ISIS.

>If we can (((prove))) that video games DO cause violence then the floodgates open for everything else
Ever read the ManHunt murders and why Rockstar or whoever were banned from ever making another ManHunt game ever again?

Wrong. Video games ATTRACT autistic and stupid people.

Why would having negative responses to emergency situations be a positive?
It's good to keep your calm, so you can render aid or call for help as needed.

Videogames are nothing like war. Saving private ryan is close to what war is but it doesn't really cut it. You can't say you are in war unless you actually feel the threat of losing your life or watching others die, irreversably die.

one more step towards the fall of rome 2.0, companies slowly picking away at the world's strongest army

Manhunt got a sequel

Freaking out like a retard is what you do when something bad happens? lol

And we start with the logical fallacies.
Also you didn't even consider my argument. If I'm a functional human being why should I give a fuck about the mentally ill?

But they're okay with harvesting personal data and selling it to the military?

Most SJWs are pro-gun.

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>I bet that if some of you witness a murder or a car crash
But that's real life, we're talking about video games. Everyone understands the difference, even you.

>tfw 29yo touchless virgin but porn addict since 12 or so
>everyone who watches porn wouldn't be a virgin.
damn this needs to happen

>we dont to build tech that trains soldiers to kill
>we just supply them with our operating system to run all of their operations
lol what a bunch of virtue signalling twats

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Then quit. I hope all these limp wristed faggots get replaced by Chinese who WILL leak everything back to China so that these faggots can be indirectly responsible for training Chinese troops instead of American troops.

Video games attract all kinds of people, from all rungs of society. What are you even trying to do here? You sound compromised.
Don't let these serbian shitbags from some bot farm coerce you, kids. They have an agenda, they want to remove anything even remotely enjoyable from your lives.

I like running people over in GTA. I enjoy it so much that I drive on the sidewalks at high speeds and hit countless pedestrians so I can watch all the blood spill on the front end of the car.

>giving schizophrenics firearms
oh shit nigga what is u doin

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>tfw Daddy Xi is another step closer to liberating the American people from the tyranny of capitalism

Please save us xi

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Man, that's the dumbest shit I've read in here, and I've been here all summer. An operating system allows hardware to communicate with software.
Where are all of you retards even coming from?

Same arguments that go into:
>We need to make more inclusive games
I hope they all quit and go to work at google

>implying you have a choice with win 10

>letting your guard down around a person with a fucking axe in a goddamn store
Even if you don't consider them mentally ill that'd still raise some eyebrows.

I’ll tell you what I’m not doing: becoming a victim.

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same
I go out of my way to run pedestrians over in GTA.

I know this is bait but people need to recognize just how bad the Chinese government is. Even the U.S. government doesn't make you disappear into a labor camp if you call the president a fat retard.

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fuck he got hit right in the head

desensitize?

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This

...
You do? And it's easy as fuck.

Legitimately surprised gun companies and NRA haven't tried to market hard to women. With all the rape controversies, you'd think it'd be the perfect opportunity to market to women who are afraid of becoming victims.

Nice projection, kike.

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This
There's a difference between something that uses war and the real world and real weapons as a wrapper for game and puzzle mechanics, and simulators where the intent is to train real-world instincts

>putting Muslims in camps

So what?

>THEY are in this thread
SHIT HANS GET THE RAID

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The best way to make people want gun control is to arm radfem. You would see men shot from across the street for rapethink, or gunned down on the subway for having their legs spread.

when you see some real shit its a lot different than seeing it on a screen.

They do in a select few people.

They've been doing this shit for years though it really is nothing new, also libshits need to understand that America keeps this fucking world in check. I have never seen such a dumb group of people, the first chance our enemies get to dab on us they will gladly take. I cringe whenever I hear some retarded libshit talking about slashing military funding and stop trying to have a stake in American interests around the world.

videogames are an outlet for this kind of behavior, it stems from other sources like bad parenting or poor peer interactivity. They can have an isolating effect for sure but they're not the cause.

No they aren't, the odds of finding some tranny in the wild are next to none. You're literally wasting time and effort spreading propaganda against like 0.01% of the population.

t. Imperialist

So what, you can't go to a school without a 25% chance of getting shot. 50% if you got to a black neighborhood.

One of the manhunt games basically one fucking idiot killed another fucking idiot who were both under 16 or whatever and it got banned in the U.K. Whether it was the first Manhunt, the Second one or the third. I'am just saying this shit has been done over and over and over again. Some idiot get's stupid, thinks a video game is real life and goes out and kills someone in real life. This has been going on since PS2 era. That is all.

What's the amount of time represented in this graph, stupid frog?

>. I cringe whenever I hear some retarded libshit talking about slashing military funding
You must hate the president, then, he was all pumped up for taking away military spending and using it for his comedy wall.

America is no empire.

if we can safely say that games do not CAUSE violence, can we entertain that they are cultural products which contain ideology that, in concert with other aspects of culture, teach lessons about violence and its use, lessons at both ends of the valuative spectrum, positive and negative?

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>Sponsored by Daves Axe's
>You got an axe to grind.
>Daves got it for you.

>Yea Forums is now defending the "violent vidya bad" meme

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based

>Thinking school shootings are product of weapon availability
It's your "culture", there's gun everywhere in Mexico, but instead of kids going apeshit and killing other kids, they join cartels and kill other edgy kids from other cartels.

5 - 10B for a wall is not that bad, some candidates on the left want to squash military spending by far more.

There's a significant difference between me pressing LMB to headshot someone in CS and me holding my cz at someone's head IRL

and his actions have shown he INCREASED military spending by something like 70b

>Video games
>real life
Watching cartoons makes you pedo.
Watching rape porn makes you rapist
Watching snuff makes you serial killer.
Facts. If you click on spoiler you will become pedo

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>wanting Microsoft to develop weapons

Great.
Imagine being a soldier on the battlefield with your rifle suddenly refusing to work until you finished your updates.
And after finishing your updates it simply refuses to work at all and you have to contact your local Delhi MS support center and wait for them to reply to your ticket. All while still under enemy fire.

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Yeah Prison,Death . Or spectating the rest of the match.

>controls more land than the Roman Empire at its peak under Trajan
>literally all of said land was either taken through conquest or bought from other colonial empires who in turn took it through conquest
>uses economic influence to indirectly control other regions of the world, to the point of overthrowing foreign democracies that don’t serve their interests

In the overly literal sense that there’s no Emperor, sure, but America’s still imperialistic as fuck.

time to grow up and think about some shit dawg. You can consider the effects of media on people without being Jack Thompson

Yea Forums is weapon

I think you Americans could afford to cut military funding a LITTLE, you can still remain world leader without spending so much unnecessarily

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>If you click on spoiler you will become pedo
That is the weak ass shit I have seen in fucking years. I will fucking raise you with my spoiler.

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Fire and hire. Fucking retards.

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Yea Forums is hate machine.

>. I didn't feel the need to get a girlfriend because of dating sims
Underated post

Didn't say it was. I'm just saying it's silly to assume people would care about more crazy people with guns when we've always had crazy people with guns and nobody cares. Also:
>Mexico
Not exactly a good comparison. That country is so corrupt and down the shit people are mass migrating to leave it.

>I will fucking raise you with my spoiler.
Disgusting. Now I don't like lolis anymore. Fucking Shad

US Military is actually the only thing that's keeping it "safe" from other countries, it is the most hated country, if not the only hated country, everything bad brews in the USA.

>bargraph.jpg
lmao

Isn't the predominant majority of technology used in videogames, from online networking to 3d visuals, basically only there as a substrate of military research that eventually gets clearance to make it into the civilian sector?

Also doesn't the military directly finance a lot of military games, and has been since the days of doom? You know, the game literally developed by a kid with a military family background?

>Burgers could feed the entire goddamn world for seventeen years and STILL be the world’s largest military spender

It’s astounding.

You sound like an sjw that claims anime girls are for pedos and promote pedophilia irl.

Video games were actually invented by the military itself FYI faggo.

literally it's okay when the party does it.
[citation needed]

martial shit definitely determines the tech we get to some extent.

Don't worry guys. If an ancient evil awakens, I've got that shit in the bag. Make sure not to stay in my village when I'm out doing chores in the local forest for the village elder.

>develop tech
>get funding from military
>foresee incoming backlash
>make employees speak up against the military funding
>gain good will while still making shit ton of money making shit for the military

>technological progress
thats not a good thing

lol
No one is leaving because it is corrupt, it's just that people here see the american dream as an easy way to make money, they don't want to work all day to make 5 bucks, when they can cut grass and make the same in one hour.

tl;dr
Immigrants see you as their paypigs.

The 2017 spending bill he signed. It might not have been 70B, but it was definitely a historic bump

Good job you did it. Here's another
>YOU

>atomizes myself making coffee

[citation needed]

it's hated most by countries that live a fuck ton of miles away that could only stage a real attack by high jacking long distance commercial planes and crashing them into buildings

Haha lol

The military buys shit game developers make, not the other way around.

Based conservative

After China is done colonizing Canada, we’ll have a formidable opponent right above us.

My job is done. Go free.

then get off the internet and go live in the woods Luddite.

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>not being able to discern between fiction and realtiy
you are the problem destroying humanity

2018, not 2017. My mistake there
cnn.com/2017/03/16/politics/donald-trump-defense-budget-blueprint/

>2002
>In my mid teens
>My mother works as a nurse
>Her friend works with special needs
>The week of summer vacation starts mom stops at her friend's house
>Get introduced to her for the first time and her low functioning daughter.
>Not exactly autism and not downs just low functioning aka dumb to the point of nearly drooling down the front of her shirt.
>Didn't think anything of it at the time just thought she was weird in baggy sweatshirt and sweatpants looks like a big 12 year old girl
>For some reason get asked to do payed yardwork.
>Do the yard work
>One day driving him in the rain with my mom
>Asked me if I noticed her daughter
>Tell her yes didn't think much of her
>Next day I'm mowing the lawn. She steps out to sunbathe in a bikini like two sizes too small
>Full thicc healthy body soft but not fat and massive E cups.
>Mom shows up to pick me up both her and her friend sit me down
>Explain that her daughter can't function well and they had planned to see if I would be interested in being with her physically to help her with her needs
>Power of boners takes over say yes
>They arrange at the house this dinner and date for us
>Legit get lessons from two nurses with a sex ed book
>She gets wet super fast
>Slide in she giggles
>Spend legit hours in bed with her no condoms
>Only stopped because she collapsed and fell asleep
>Turns out she's actually 22
>Spend most of the summer with her
>Go back to school
>Got pregnant and had a normal baby
>2019 have a cute daughter with all her marbles
>Not married but she lives with us

Pretty obvious from your post you now nothing about the immigration issues of the US. Companies harboring illegal immigrants is a well known huge issue here and is used to get cheap labor. Most illegal aliens get payed less then the minimum wage.

Doesn't China still own you and America's debt in general anyway? Or have you guys forgotten and hope China will forget it. I remember China bailed your ass out in the crash like years ago but it was so major China came into to bail America out and don't think you even have started paying it back.

Reminder that non violent vidya is able to make people rage. It's the uncontrollable factors like lag or the the perception that the player isn't good enough that makes people rage more than the actual violent content.

youtube.com/watch?v=0hQDUwWW7ic

>Murdering simulators don't create murderers.

Pretty obvious you don't know shit about anything, I personally know dozens of immigrants, it's all the same, their plan is go there, make money and send it to their families. No one talked and no one cares about poor american corporations.

What the fuck?
Where can I find a cute low functioning gf?

You were living the dream user, but why knock her up?

>Explain that her daughter can't function well and they had planned to see if I would be interested in being with her physically to help her with her needs
>Got pregnant and had a normal baby
>2019 have a cute daughter with all her marbles
>Not married but she lives with us
So your mother sold you out or whoever's son. To be trapped with a retarded girl and her retarded off spring. In the same fucking house. That is evil parenting.

No it isn't. If by the broad definition that America pursuing interests outside of it's nation, then most countries would be considered Imperialistic as well. America just has far greater power and influence to get things done. Doesn't make it an empire.

Seeing as user comes here, she probably assumed he wasn’t going to get any pussy on his own.

>"Trains Soldiers to Kill"
lol, is that what they call it?
This fucking sim is for reacting to threats and non-lethal situations. It's basically whack a mole, except half of the moles are bunny rabbits that you aren't supposed to touch (but you do it anyway because it's not real)

We really should be killing more children and elderly in video games.

They do blur the line sometimes though. Weren't America's Army and the first Operation Flashpoint meant as simulators?

I don't... is this good, is this bad, I feel conflicted.

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>not being a video gaje warrior

Buzzfeed sounds fake to me

>technology being used to train and desensitize soldiers
Kojima fucking knew

>Don't even think about violence guy, everyone should be pacifists, you can still resist, totally. Silently, in your designated corner. It's the right thing to do, if you fight back You're the villain, not us. Now get back to work.

Not only that, but reminder that Marine Doom is a thing. Literally Doom revamped for use as a tactical simulator for actual military use.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marine_Doom

and yet they still get paid more than the maximum wage of their home country

True. I heard even $20k a year puts you at like the top 20% of the world already/

Games with mechanics and functions set for realistic simulation and military application and what is made for general audiences are very different things i'd hope.

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All of the employees that complain should be beaten then fired.

I can imagine the sóybabies that are sipping their lattes and writing 2 lines of code before brunch are the main voice of resistance here.

One important thing to consider is when an article or statistic says "people are angered by x" "people" usually means like a handful but they lead you to believe the entirety of Microsoft is uneasy.

>Buzzfeed

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War isn't going anywhere anytime soon, why wouldn't we want our country's soldiers to be better trained?

>Buzzfeed
Lol

war has changed

>US Military is actually the only thing that's keeping it "safe" from other countries, it is the most hated country, if not the only hated country, everything bad brews in the USA.

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>We really should be killing more children and elderly in video games.
We should. We really should.

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Do you want to be stuck for the rest of your life with a retarded girl and her retarded off spring in the same house as well. Because your mother said it is free pussy. You ain't going to get any better. Because I wouldn't.

This story would be interesting if it was actually real and not copypasta.

Being with a normal woman is hard enough, can't imagine being the only person responsible for a grown up and a kid.

The US is pretty much impregnable considering we are surrounded by mountains, two oceans, and have an armed country.

>My wife sent me a video of her on "vacation" with my boss
>The contents were quite sexually explicit as expected
>get hard as fuck immediately
>until something happens that nearly destroys my heart
>at first its normal, shes indulging in sex with men better than me
>muscular studs with huge cocks, amazing technique and impressive stamina
>I watched the video and watched my wife's legs quivering as she climaxed again and again being fucked by these men
>kissing them with a passion I could never rouse
>letting them do things to her I could only dream of
>Sucking them off and begging for more in between fuck sessions
>But once my boss's friends were done and left, it happened
>They put clothes back on and started cuddling while watching a movie
>something that we did together when we're lovey dovey
>She seemed so happy in his arms
>looking at him like he was the greatest thing in her life
>like his warmth was the only thing that mattered
>he looked at her the same way too
>eventually they started fucking again
>fucking would actually be the wrong word as they more passionate than they had ever been
>it seemed more like they were making love
>In the middle of another one of her earth shattering orgasms she screamed "I LOVE YOU!" over and over again
>he came in her and they kissed
>video ended

Oh god I just couldnt think. I couldnt breathe. Is she just fucking with me anons? Or is she actually going to leave me now that shes found a better man to fuck and love? What did I do wrong? I let her fuck real men since I was unsatisfactory. I loved her like no other. Shes my goddess. I cant lose her.

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One of the best games of all time. I put it as top 3 at least.

Yeah that's kind of the fucking point to have a more ready and lethal military. Do they think War is gonna be daises and rainbows so we don't need to desensitize our service men and women to the reality of violence? It's been heavily established over the past 60+ years of research that desensitization is required to produce a more effective fighting force. Their equating desensitization with stripping of empathy and in essence, humanity. When the truth is way off.

>Posting about problems on a board that's ironic about video games

Yeah ok bud, I'm not hungry for past. Shit sucks.

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All he had to do was not cum inside then he could just keep fucking and drop her whenever he felt like it.

So what exactly do you want done about video games causing all this violence?

That's the evil bit of this all. Both mothers were nurses and they both lied. Especially the mother with the son and never even said or suggested condoms. That's why it is evil parenting.

"""She""" wants censorship obviously

>needing tech to desensitize soldiers
whatever happened to pumping your soldiers with heroin and amphetamines and just letting things sort themselves out from there

She wanted to be a grandmother and she knew her autistic, vidya playing son would die a KHV without her intervention.

Leaked pic of what the employees were working on.
Allegedly the employees believed they were building a mobile satellite vehicle for self driving cars.

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Exactly.

Mostly in the early days of computing. Now it's much different and it goes the other way around, tech and code developed by video game and other private sectors eventually makes its way to the military if it's useful to them. The military does finance some game projects for either propaganda or training purposes, but that's like a handful of titles and stuff like the military's version of Arma.

Not many countries now when the army does go in. Offer free drugs with every 10 bodies you kill. Sucks ass really. Why can't the Cartel be a terrorist threat. Then they can go in fuck there shit. And take all their cocaine as a reward.

>I didn't feel the need to get a girlfriend because of dating sims.

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>She wanted to be a grandmother and she knew her autistic, vidya playing son would die a KHV without her intervention.
Or she wanted to be a grandmother but not have to deal with making friends with whatever slut he brought home. So she lied to him to trap him forever against his will. Without him even knowing it.

hahahahahaah

>guy has tattoos
>thing has dreads

Nothing of value was lost.

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>rapethink
Stop talking like this. You're just outting yourself as a retard

The reason why all the lobbying and bitching about shooters going nowhere? They are killing simulators and nothing more. By the time kids get into basic most have logged thousands of hours of simulated trigger time. It means today's kids are far more likely to shoot at human targets the first time instead of conflicts as recent as Vietnam where many soldiers never even fired on the enemy. The reality is all these bleeding hearts have been making money on spreading the idea of death. They help ease predictive programming into our collective conscious. They make the idea of might makes right and interventionism palatable when we live in an age where information should be making the horrors of war and the lies used to perpetuate it more evident but this is not the case. The thirst for blood grows as our media and entertainment grows increasingly saturated with increasingly more realistic depictions of ultra violence. On top of it is the blending of sexuality implicitly with ultra violence. We are rewiring the brains of the young to be turned on by death. To need constant stimulation. To take thrill in killing as realistically as possible and when they grow bored they turn on the television and watch more of it. If they flip to the news they watch the society they live in convulsing with it as the violence and depravity spreads around them. These creators are enablers and have no concept of self awareness.

"Source: my ass"

>It means today's kids are far more likely to shoot at human targets the first time
I doubt that. If they could. Why such low body counts in school shootings. I expect at least over 50-90 deaths. But it is usually less than 30.

Why are we having school shootings today when as recently as the 60's you could still mail order weapons and get full auto weapons? Remember that these are largely a modern phenomenon. A lot of schools used to have competitive shooting teams as well and proportionally a much larger amount of people owned guns as recently as then than do today. The exposure to weapons was far greater so is it the type of exposure?

cuckservative

Still these *school shooters* are shit at shooting full stop. Doesn't do much hope for the future and wars in the future. If they can't kill at least 50 children. Kind of makes gun owners look back at an accuracy level.

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