Yakuza kiwami is a bad game

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But it's not.

I disagree. There's very few non-Yakuza beat'em ups that can stack against it.

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It's a weak Yakuza entry, but still better than 90% of games in general.

>story is weak and full of subplot
>bosses are the cheapest and most worthless pieces of shit

What's wrong with the story?

I whole hardheartedly agree, all the characters fucking suck, all the chapters are garbage. Even the combat is horrible. The game just serves to set up kiwami 2.

I'm sure that he's just mad because he had a hard time with the bosses.

I just ran into an end game sidequest bug. Haruka's billiards rotation sidequest is bugged and you can't complete it. If you win haruka acts like you lost and if you lose she still acts like you lost. You can't currently max haruka's relationship gauge. It sucks.

starts strong but crap like kaze's daughter or the florist's son is useless and outright boring

It is not a bad game, it just released at a very bad time. Shortly after 0. It feels more like an expansion pack than a fully fleshed out game on it's own.

I loved zero, dropped kiwami on 3rd hour. Can't put my finger on it, it's just somehow worse.

Wait till you get to the end of 4 holy shit.
Here fight an entire fucking armada with a guy who specializes in 1v1 combat.

I dropped it and decided to play the original instead. It's fucking amazing.

>and full of subplot
I think you worded it wrong, it's full of padding.
subplot is generally a good thing, kiwami got padding.

It was an okay expansion pack of 0.

It's an expansion of 0 but otherwise a 1:1 remake of the first game is why. The main thing is that the old substories are dog shit in comparison.

it's bad compared to 0

Kiwami basically has all the faults you'd expect of being a remake of 1. The story is a lot slower and more "grounded" compared to later entries, substories arent as interesting or wacky as later games, if you were someone whose first entry was Yakuza 0 instead of the first game I'd feel bad for you, as 0 was easily one of the strongest games in the franchise. Anything else would naturally feel like a step back.

Really wondering which Yakuza game Sega will port next though, Kiwami 2 or 6, and how demanding that game would be on PC.

Why?

It's impressive how despite copying the combat right from 0 it managed to make it so much more annoying, like how is that even possible

Kiwami is probably the weakest Yakuza game I agree.

I had to beat Shimano without Kiwami actions because I didn't know I had to buy them, that was a treat

Is there a yakuza where they are all samurais? Is that the whole game or is it a mini game?

I agree. Almost every charge made from the original Y1 is just annoying filler and pointless garbage.

I hate that pink shirt Kiryu has. Wish I could change his looks in normal game mode.

They changed how strong enemies flinch and knock you over which added to how knife and gunshots put you into the awful stumble animation you are on the floor pretty often. Jingu fight is especially atrocious because it.

all of the yakuza games are trash.
>story is awful and never has any tension because there's no consistent tone
>gameplay consists of incredibly barebones mediocre fighting and a bunch of shitty minigames
>looks like ancient shit because it is

eat shit yakuza fags

stay mad

>Yakuza series are so good haters have to come to Yakuza thread to feel like a special snowflake

My only complaint so far is how bullshit the bosses are
>they can cover like forever
>they can do their 382 hit combos without flinching even if you hit them
>that stupid thing they do mid-combat in which they recharge their energy like fucking Son Goku, again without even flinching when you hit them unless you do a heat move
>Shimano attacking like Mr Shakedown, and what a tedious combat it was
>that red gang guy with Majima's breakdance moveset
Other than that, the plot is just almost the same as 0, but simpler and with a kid instead of a blind girl

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There's always a game that's worse..

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I'm still a newbie to the franchise. Why is 3 so reviled?

Probably because of how they tweaked the combat, namely Beast being worthless and Rush being broken
Also getting your Dragon of Dojima skills and foghting majima almost every time is painful