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Is Versus XV real?
Is Versus XIII alive and I don't mean Verum Rex I mean is it actually coming back
Localization worker for Square Enix if you are there
I think Noctis and Yozora have the same face in the picture I posted
Same nose, same eyebrows
This game better be a thing I wonder if the Crystal in XV is Etro and the Astrals like the Eidolons in XIII are her Emissaries in the real world
It's DEAD nigga
Let it go
For Christs sake it go
This new KH Versus shit leaves a bad taste in my mouth. It's very cliche anime, like the Big Bang Theory of anime. Nomura really shouldn't have a lot of control in these regards. As disappointing as FFXV was, it reeked of soul. All this cliche Kingdom Hearts shit just feels so soulless.
It's certainly not dead for Nomura lol that man is PISSED
stage whatever: Denial
It's probably just a teaser
Fuck that when we getting Dragon Quest X
We already have it
Nigga u just got a dragon quest
Go to bed Barry
People keep posting that shit but I've got absolutely no clue what it means. Is this the name of XV-kun? It's dumb that anything negative that someone says about XV is either XV-kun or Barry or some other boogeyman.
Yeah, Barry is XV-kun. It's half a joke, FFXV had soul but would've been a lot better if it had stuck to the fucking plan.
XV-kun legit has autism though and has been observed/confirmed by outsiders
WHere is Gladio?
Fucking dead I hope, worst friend
XV as a game is soulless
The story is boring and doesn't have any soul until the last act
KH3 the story may not be well paced but damn does it have soul, things happen in it, and the bosses don't suck.
I also really want to know if we are getting Versus15
Or if that has been turned into verum rex
XV had soul but it was buried under tons of pointless bullshit. kH3 comes off better, imo, as it has several kino moments while FXV only has 2 or 3
This is square we ain't getting shit for years and then they'll far out a half baked game at the last minute
>As disappointing as FFXV was, it reeked of soul.
Yeah, the biggest trend chaser in the franchise just had too much soul for its own good.
Might rebuy XV on Windows desu.
From that other thread
> They didn’t want to use Luminous Engine or Unreal Engine 4 for the project and wanted to blow people away with its graphics like FF
Square are really fucking retarded, they are going to add years to the development for no reason
TELL ME WHAT THE SURPRISE IN EPISODE ARDYN IS, THEN LEAK EVERYTHING YOU KNOW ABOUT FF AND KH. THE ACCURACY OF THE ARDYN LEAK WILL LET US KNOW WHETHER OR NOT YOU'RE LYING
You mean 451560014 thread from another day? That thread seem to have lot of detail disappear. I don't know what happened
I usually don't use board fireden
>you’ll be surprised at the connection it makes
KH3 ends with "reconnect kingdom hearts"
bump for interest
what details are missing?
Here, the copy paste from that thread 451560014 including detail that missing in board fireden
> 2019, for Play Station 5: "Final Fantasy VII: Act I"; first chapter of Final Fantasy VII REMAKE and part of the
"VERSUS Epic"; trailer will be shown before the end of february; will be the longest game ever made by SquareEnix in terms of playtime; will feature a new logo, completely different from the original game's one, but still made by Yoshitaka Amano; will also get an anime.
> 2019, for Play Station 5: "VERSUS: Final Fantasy"; the return of Final Fantasy Versus XIII, done as Nomura envisioned it, and part of the "VERSUS Epic"; probably the first of a series of multiple chapters; currently in
development; will feature a new logo, completely different from the original game's one, but still made by Yoshitaka Amano; will be officially revealed this year (but not at E3).
> late 2019, for Kingdom Hearts III: a DLC; will feature various Final Fantasy characters, but not Sora.
> TBA: a remake of Final Fantasy VIII; been in development for roughly 1,5 years.
> TBA, for Play Station 5 (with the collaboration of Platinum Games): "Final Fantasy: Lunar Tear X"; will have a dystopian setting; will be shown before the end of 2019.
> TBA, for Play Station 5: a game with the codename "Project AGNI"; probably related to "Agni's Philosophy" and part of the "VERSUS Epic"; currently in development, will take longer than Final Fantasy XV.
> TBA, for Play Station 5: a game with the codename "Project Erebus"; part of the "VERSUS Epic"; currently in
development.
> TBA: something related to Einhander
> TBA: something related to Musashiden
> TBA: something related to Soukaigi
> TBA: something related to Chrono (probably a remake of Chrono Trigger)
I'll copy something
>The assets are all already there. Making a new FFXV wouldn't require a lot of time.
>Tabata claimed that he intended to faithfully preserve Nomura's vision, but the evidence is that FFXV retains almost nothing of that vision. It's possible that Tabata actually intended to preserve it *elsewhere* (i.e.: in another game), just not in FFXV.
> According to a leak, in the original story of Final Fantasy Versus XIII, Noctis was supposed to have killed Stella before the game even started. Shortly before FFXV was released, a trailer named OMEN was shown where we see precisely Noctis killing Luna (which is basically Stella's replacement), along with other things and events that we never saw in the actual game. Why show a trailer that align more with the original plot than the actual released game, if the former was entirely discarded?
> Before annonuncing something as huge as the Final Fantasy VII REMAKE, Square Enix did a lot of smaller FF7-related things. In the same way, if Square Enix plans to do something equally huge like a Final Fantasy Versus XV, it's possible they would release a lot of smaller FFXV-related things before announcing it. That's precisely what's happening now.
> Despite the crushing evidence of being an incomplete game, Tabata still insists that that's how the game was always intended to be. Assuming he is not lying, this means that FFXV was always intended to be an incomplete game, in other terms: A DEMO. FFXV is basically nothing more than a huge playable demo and it sure looks and feels that way. The question is: a demo of what?
> We still have no idea where the fuck Hiroyuki Ito is or what he's doing. It's not plausible that one of the biggest names in the series is still busy doing nothing.
Laugh at me as much as you want, but know that the true Final Fantasy Versus XIII as envisioned by Nomura is approaching as we speak.
It WILL happen, whether you like it or not.
I want to believe.
That Ardyn Prologue anime had 200% Versus soul in it and the best use of "Somnus" in entirety of FF15 media by far.
I WANT TO BELIEVE
>the true Final Fantasy Versus XIII as envisioned by Nomura is approaching as we speak.
i pray
> Final Fantasy Versus XV will be a rebuild/retelling/alternative version of Final Fantasy XV.
> The game will be set in an alternate reality: the events in XV will be implied to have been nothing more than a Noctis' dream (that's why Noctis is shown sleeping on his throne).
> The world will be entirely explorable this time; remember the map model shown in one trailer? That will be VersusXV's world map.
> Insomnia will be present and fully explorable too, and you'll be in it as the invasion happens; other cities and areas that were initially planned but never made it in the final game, like Gralea, the kingdom of Solheim (which is
loosely based on middle-east) and the capital of Tenebrae are now explorable.
> The plot will be completely rewritten from scratch and will feature all the elements Nomura wanted in it, like Stella, the "eyes that can see the light of expiring souls", the country of Solheim and so on, while everything related to
Kingsglaive will be completely removed.
> The battle system will be way more KH-like, but it will still keep everything we've seen in FFXV like warp-strikes, counter/parry and so on. Also there will be character-switching like shown in the earlier Versus-XIII trailers.
> There will be a gambit-like system to direct party member's behaviour.
> New summons will be present, including Fenril, Phoenix, Odin, Alexander and the Magus Sisters. Ifrit, Bahamut and the Knights of the Round will be summonable this time.
> Luna will not be present. Stella however will return, and will be a playable party member for almost half of the entire game. Also, some particular missions allow you to use some guest character (like Cor, Cindy, Aranea, and so on...)
for a small period of time.
> Etro will be the last boss. You'll fight her in an overtly spectacular final battle inspired by FF7's last boss.
Sounds fake. Would be great if it was true though
Ardyn represents Versus
FF15 represents Tabata's hackery
>Lies, fairytales and fallacies, ALL OF IT
- Ardyn on FF15 pretending to be Versus
>It's DEAD nigga
Yes, as dead as Lelouch, if u know what i mean
>FFXV was, it reeked of soul
I'm not sure if this was leak from the same guy above. He did mention about FF7re FF16 even FF17 early concept
Some of detail is unmatched but detail about Versus seem to have something in common
If this is all true then wtf is verum rex
verum rex obviously being a lot like versus
>THE ACCURACY OF THE ARDYN LEAK WILL LET US KNOW WHETHER OR NOT YOU'RE LYING
he also said that:
1) Solheim will be playable through flashbacks
2) The black wing featured on Ardyn's dress belonged to his black "chocobo"
3) Ardyn's "chocobo" is not a real chocobo; it has some kind of connection with Umbra
4) Ardyn *literally* gets crucified
If they are going to make a new Versus game it's definitely gonna be Verum Rex now right? Any chance it can still be the original Versus? It would be confusing to fans because of 2 Noctis right? I miss Stella man, I want the old Versus rather than Verum Rex.
To be honest, Zeal said this particular leak was bullshit
I unironically don't want this knockoff Verum Rex shit.
The designs are worse and "kiddyfied" like Kingdom Hearts.
I want original Versus, not FF15, not Verum Rex.
Not really if Versus comes out it can still be Versus alternate realities exist within XV why do you think people were on board with Dawn of the Future.
Verum Rex is likely a teaser for it
Verum Rex was just a mock version. However, Yozora, Noctis and Insomnia will be in the next KH game.
i am the worker. yes its real. no x33 is dead because youre a loser
>PS5
>2019
Fake
I'm a versusfag but I'm honestly not a fan of all of this Verum Rex stuff.
If Nomura deliberately made that Verum Rex teaser in KH3 surely he knows people will have 'certain' expectation. So doesn't this mean that he/SE will definitely make a Versus game in future? Whether it's Versus or Verum Rex is what what we should bet on.
Verum Rex is a downgrade Versus no?
My problem with Verum Rex is not that it's a knockoff of Versus, but that the designs are visibly cartoonified for Kingdom Hearts.
It's not just the characters and their outfits, it's even the weapons the main characters wield, the magic and the Magitek Armors visible in the CGI teaser.
It's all cartoonified.
>something related to Musashiden
DONT FUCKING PLAY WITH MY FEELINGS
I think he mean announcement this year not release this year
If it's Versus:
ALL OF MY MONEY
If it's Verum Rex:
Ehhhhhhhh, I'll still get it but I don't want a knock-off.
It's probably Versus making a Verum Rex thing would not only take too much time to accomplish.
It might be seen as a XV rip-off thus sell less.
You also have the issue of not having an audience for this.
Verum Rex is only getting talked about because of it's allusion to Versus XIII.
Instead of making a Verum Rex game which some people will think is a Versus downgrade why not actually just make Versus with the assets you have.
Let me FUCK Iris
Look at it this way:
with all the rumors about a possible Versus, if it wasn't true, SE would already have dismissed them all by now...
A Versus game will not only sell more than a Verum game it would also cost less to make, and if great Square will win more favor with the fans
If it not happening, blame that 451560014guy. I only copy paste what he was posting
But making Versus will be a bigger ripoff from XV no? How are you even going to advertise it those that hate XV? They will thought it's a sequel or something and not buy it.
It's alive user and stronger than ever.
Yozora and Noctis? nah i dont see that happening
me too. I hope versus hasnt become verum rex. Verum rex doesnt seem as cool
Is this Versus talk only coming from West? Did people in Japan talk about this? Did people in Japan even want Versus? SE decision is mostly based on Japan first I think.
It wouldn't be if anything it would be seen as the return of Versus XIII a game that people want to play not a rip-off of it.
I would seen in the same light as Dawn of the Future or the Omen Trailer
You don't have to market it to people that hate XV those people wouldn't buy it anyway but for those that do would buy it.
>Ardyn's "chocobo" is not a real chocobo; it has some kind of connection with Umbra
youtu.be
11:18
>[referring to Ardyn's Black chocobo] This actually holds the key to all 9o the secrets in EPISODE ARDYN. So I really cannot discuss this because it would spoil everything.
Huh...
yeah but square is retarded with money
Why would it matter? If Nomura is in charge of it again expect it to release 20never or get passed onto another dude to salvage what's there and be shit, not that Nomura's games (when he does finish them) are even worth the wait.
People don't want Versus but not Versus it either commits to being Versus which means using the Versus XIII characters, concepts, lore and story.
Or it commits to being something new
Didn't Nomura originally want to make Versus as a trilogy or something? Are you people really ok with it?
now that would be fucking something
Final Fantasy has always sold better in the West than in Japan ever since FF7 and this is a financial fact.
The opposite goes for Dragon Quest and Drakengard by the way.
>something new
Verum Rex?
Nomura already confirmed that he would love to have Noctis in future KH games since it's his favorite character
that would be interesting to know
i imagine they dont care though
First it was a trilogy, then a pentalogy including a musical, then back to trilogy.
Then Tabata takes over and it becomes a single game spliced from 3 games worth of cut content and script.
i would be fine with a trilogy or 1 big game
just give me versus
Regardless of that fact, I still think they mainly use jp opinion on game decision especially something like FF. They are based on Japan afterall and run by Japanese. I don't think Japanese fans actually give a damn about Versus.
This seems to ignore that Versus XIII was meant to be several games long. They were each meant to be around a KH game in length.
Seriously you are OK with it? After 15 years for KH3 you're ok with Nomura terrible time of making a new Versus sequel?
i just fucking want it, whatever way, and as close to how nomura wants it
probably fake, even though it sounds based.
next you're going to tell me super mario rpg is getting remade by square and we're getting every single old dragon quest game remade and localized.
Nomura is a hack. I want to see HIS version of VersusXIII.
Why is Nomura so terrible at time management? His game literally takes forever to come out if it comes out at all.
You fags are legitimately worse than the Kojima niggers at this point
What did Kojima niggers do?
Verum Rex clearly isn't new if it's being compared to Versus I mean fully new concept
Where is that middle Stella pic coming from? That blonde Stella with Japanese character one. Never seen it before.
Guys what happens to that blonde hooded guy in XV? Just remember him from that pic. Did Tabata missing no jutsu him?
by kojima niggers he means Carmichael
>silent hills isnt dead, Chapter 3 is still alive
Why do Japanese auteurs seem so much more prevalent and better regarded than Western ones?
Ravus.
they are always coming up with crazy development theories that never turn out to be true
The picture between the Verum Rex Stella and XV 2013 Stella.
Is Royal Edition/Kingsglave Stella
pbs.twimg.com
tumblr.com
Below that is FFVersusXIII 2008 magazine Stella
No idea what this mean. I didn't play XV though I frequently read spoiler about it. Just never seen this hooded guy mentioned. I thought he was supposed to be pretty important character back then something like Noctis's rival.
He is Ravus before Tabata removed everything that make him look badass
Huh? Stella is still in XV?
Oh, then it could be true.
>Kingsglave Stella
So that's Luna? She looks absolutely like past Stella from E3.
No it's all fake. Fuck off already.
Nah it's a CG render of Stella
They used Stella's design as a base for Luna but her character is completely different
no it's dead
According to original FFv13 story leak. Noctis kill Stella before the game start but he doesn't remember, Ravus who is her brother want to revenge Noctis and whole Lucis family
Something like that, I don't really remember much about that story leak
all fake
Honestly that's probably fake so many supposed Versus XIII story leaks have out might as well wait for the real thing.
He had no design back then, here he is in the game, Ravus Nox Fleuret
Zeal is a fucking larper his word means less than shit, but that is fake regardless
What? So the Stella we've seen in trailer back then was ghost?
Meh it could be real or it could be fake but that Verum Rex/XV/Versus world is very much real
Wow he looks terrible. Why the fuck did I hype him back then? Fuck me.
Bullshit
every versus "leak" is fake and fanfic
No it's fake, eveything about it was debunked and proven wrong.
There is no Versus world in KH3 at all
Why did Noctis kill Stella?
No he's based.
Verum Rex is the Versus world the guy wasn't specific on how it would play out.
Radiant Garden is a world in KH3 yet it's only in cutscenes.
Verum Rex is clearly supposed to be KH's version of Versus XIII.
The FF stuff in KH changes all the time from Leon/Squall
The pixie versions of the X-2 cast.
Don't know
If i had to guess maybe it was his focus from lucis fal'cie
No it isn't you fucking retard.
It's not a world in KH3 nor is Radiant Garden a visitable world.
Verum Rex isn't Versus at all, it's nothing more than a superficial allusion to some motifs and nothing more.
That same bullshit tries to say kingsglaive was becoming a game which is blatantly wrong and even the XV devs said they never had plans for that, even when tossing around ideas for the 2019 DLC for the 4th one they only tossed the idea of episode nyx, episode ravus or episode aranea but only in 2018 when they were first greenlit for the 2019 dlc, but discarded the idea of episode nyx straight away because they said kingsglaive already exists, and araneas was decided because of her popularity instead.
Also in 2017 they only made a real time tech demo using assets from the movie in Luminous just for a GTC nvidia thing which they only did in 10 days, it had nothing to do with any game or yhem turning kingsglaive into one.
bump
Now I know this is bs
No, majority of Japanese people don't want or care about Versus. I think there is some poll about this.
The Verum Rex thing was never said to be visitable.
The rumor never said KG was going to be a game it said game translation that could be DLC, or anything.
Tabata also said Ardyn wouldn't be a DLC so it's quite possible they were thinking about other games or doing Kingsglaive as a game
Are you kidding the Japanese people didn't like KG because of the changes
Yeah because of the art style duh. It looks different from XV. What does that had to do with Versus?
Verum Rex isn't Versus you dumb cunt.
Are you fucking illiterate? A game translation = it being turned into game format, you fucking retard. That is already debunked by XV devs.
And no, Tabata said they were undecided on whether they'd do Ardyn DLC, initially ep Ardyn was only the anime and it only became DLC because the devs pushed the higher ups to let them do it. They were never planning to make Kingsglaive into a game and explicitly stated that they rejected doing something like episode Nyx because kingsglaive already exists and that they chose to do episode aranea who won out over doing an episode ravus.
Uh what actually they said they were thinking about doing DLC based on fan-demand Nyx was one of them and Tabata said explicitly Ardyn wouldn't be a DLC he's too big for that.
Also Verum Rex is Versus
You have a character that looks like Noctis
You have another that looks like a brunette Stella
The other two look like Ignis and Prompto
Fighting in Insomnia
With a portal reminscient of Etro's gate
Yozora the secret ending plays Somnus
Are you fucking illiterate? No, they said when deciding the 4th 2019 DLC the ideas raised were Aranea, Ravus and Nyx, they rejected doing nyx because they said kingsglaive already exists and they chose aranea because she had more fan demand than ravus did
IT LITERALLY FUCKING ISN'T VERSUS YOU CUNT
KILL YOURSELF
Yozora is not Noctis, he's just a fucking SUPERFICIAL ALLUSION to him, that's all Verum Rex is, thats all the music reference is, it's not fucking Versus you fucking retarded piece of shit. That's not even Insomnia it's literally Shinjuku 1:1 and there is no etros gate anything
XV Ravus was revealed before Nomura dropped off the project you tart