Neverwinter Nights

you are waufi a shite
!

They're not

You make me sad.

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They have romantic stuff.
>The official mods are pretty good. I liked the pirate one.
Pirates of the sword coast? That was a funny module.

Yeah that's the one. Just too bad it ended at the best part.

Small Village Woes. Pretty damn good with a sort of Diablo 1 dark atmosphere.

Shit taste user, a corrupted blackguard-paladin is like a big titty goth gf with maxium edge.

Dance with Spies can be fine as he still work on it
but i agree that some characters like fucking Imoen are just annoing thankfully you may almost ignore them

Best husband simulator. Wish he added even more interactions with the wife, that's clearly the strongest part of the module.

Swordflight is better than any other module by a long mile. I can only attribute the lack of its mentions in this thread to Yea Forums's shit taste, which is further supported by unironically considering Dance with Rogues to be a good module.

Swordflight is just relatively new module.

> fucking Imoen
Kek, that's exactly the character I was thinking of. The biggest problem is that you're so passive as a characte, felt like you're more of an observer than participator. A lot of the time when you think there's gonna be a sex scene there's none, and you'd expect him to let you be dominant most of the time but it never happens. A Dance with Rogues actually makes you feel like you're playing a girl, A Dance of Spies constrains you in playing as a man.

haha i Agree Kate is good wife
though the story also have some good moments

>which is further supported by unironically considering Dance with Rogues to be a good module.
It is, though. Purely mechanically it's the best rogue-focused module ever released, and while the story becomes fairly linear it's got a good amount of depth in offering alternate solutions to the player without handholding them through everything.

>Swordflight
It's good, but I wouldn't say it's "better than any other module by a long mile." Not Tales of Arterra, or the Bastard of Kosigan series.

i did want to try
Bastard of Kosigan but the respawn killet it for me

What's wrong with A Dance with Rogues? You've got a shit ton of quests and a lot of sneaking/burglary opportunities. The main quest is decent, there's a lot of sex scenes that you can choose or refuse, some pretty good dungeon crawling, a good story and good world building.

Only shortcomings are dialogue choices where you can say "No" in 6 different ways, which is good for roleplaying purposes and the fact that Part 2 has a big quality drop.

What's the best way to make an arcane archer?
First thought would be wizard/fighter, but it seems like I would have to deal with low BAB for a long time. Bard arcane archers seem to be good as well, though if I want to put some fighter levels into that, then I need to play a half-elf. I don't like half-elves.
Playing as a ranger and then dipping into wizard for one level would solve the BAB problem. I like the idea of rangers, but know that they are not the best class overall. But it's tempting.
Don't think that I want to put another feat into zen archery, though played some zen archer cleric for some time, so I know that it works. Somewhat.

So, that leaves me with the wizard/fighter.

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>A Dance with Rogues
Kill yourself dog fucking tranny

>What's the best way to make an arcane archer?
0 levels arcane archer

>but the respawn killet it for me
The what? You mean the bugs importing into later modules?
Yeah, it can be pretty bad if you're unlucky, which is a shame because the modules are amazing. Maybe one of these days I'll finally be able to work out how to get them stable.

The first module, Exile of the West, is worth playing even as a standalone.

>how DARE you like a module where you play as a woman
Kys my man

NWN1 Class Tier List

>God Tier:
Druid

>Top Tier:
Wizard, Sorcerer, Cleric, Shifter

>High Tier:
Champion of Torm, Black Guard, Bard, Weapon Master

>Mid Tier:
Paladin, Harper Scout, Pale Master, Fighter, Red Dragon Disciple, Dwarven Defender

>Low Tier:
Monk, Ranger, Rogue, Assassin, Shadow Dancer, Arcane Archer, Barbarian

aren't casters garbage when you have to solo fight Morag at the end?
>tfw all spells have the same casting time

>Dance with Spies
Unremitting garbage. It had some (faint) promise three years ago, but as it's been developed more it's actively become worse and worse over time. Instead of focusing on the actually good parts of the game (your relationship with Kate, the player's role as a non-frontline-soldier in a culture that values military service) the dev's chosen to focus on a bunch of retarded shit instead (obnoxious characters, making the game less linear that actually increases railroading, etc)

Read the planned changes the dev wants to make if you want a laugh, one of the biggest goals is instead of actually working on developing a good character (Kate) he's planning on making how the player acts within the module retrospectively define the character's past behavior.

It's a PvP tier list (so effectively worthless for a ded game)
You're right, though; most casters fall off severely over time as spells don't scale and higher level enemies get more and more resistances and immunities, straightforward melee builds scale better.

>A Dance with Spies part 2 will never be improved
What a shame. Part 1 is great. Part 2 is just bad. I feel it should have just 1 big city like part 1 instead of shifting from 1 city that you're only for a few missions before it gets destroyed then going to the dark elves and then to another city where you're also only doing a couple of missions. The second city of part 2 should have been the one from the beginning of part 1 with the dark elves section serving as a way to change up the setting and introduce a 'timeskip' of sorts for the previous city like what happened in Part 1 with the Temple quest.

The thing about casters in DnD and NWN is that they generally get spells or abilities that turn them into just as good or sometimes even better melee fighters than actual melee classes

> most casters fall off severely
LOL, no, just no, please stop talking you have absolutely no idea what you are going on about.

>Low Tier
>Monk

Yes, monk is a trash class.

inb4 some retard thinks his 20ab, 40ac monk is hot shit lmao

>>A Dance with Spies
You mean with Rogues. With Spies is that "sequel" done by some other guy with a tremendous "all women are sluts waiting to pounce at the first dick to appear in their field of vision and your wife is literally just waiting for an excuse to cheat on you" fetish.

Shame because the campaign actually works almost as well as aDwR, but the narrative keeps going out of it's way to shove as much adulterous sex as it possibly can have.

>3/4 BAB
>4 stat spread

Anybody played Tortured Hearts? It's supposed to be massive but I abandoned the first one after an hour, it seemed pretty basic. Does it get better?

i would say that as someone mentioned the second part did get worse that being said if i remember coretly if you stay Faitful kate was also faitful but it is long time since i played it so who know what he changed in the new versions

I installed the second part, and couldn't play it, writing is really bad in my opinion, and locations are like airfields. That guy should have learned from OC mistakes.

That's right.
Also she's relatively faithful considering her sexual frustration and constant protags cheating.

>Arelith is trash
>Ravenloft is run by trash
>Narfell is run by out of touch trash
>Knights of Noromath is run by a psychopath
>EfU is too hardcore for me because I'm a puss baby who can't handle pvp
Why are there no good PWs left?

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Arcane casters have poor scaling compared to good melee builds. I mean, I guess you could use every spell slot on Black Blade and sit back and watch it fight every enemy for you, but that's pretty boring.

>if you stay Faitful kate was also faitful
That was at first, then he added one of those dreams (that are unskippable and you have to sit through no matter what because they also have animations) where Kate is cheating on you while you're searching for the princess in Betancuria. Later on you can confront Kate about it and she says it's not true if you stayed completely faithful, but it also reveals she did cheat on you before the start of the story because your character was already cheating on her too.

Basically that marriage started out already fucked in every sense. Also Kate still admits to have a fetish for cheating on you with random strangers even if you stay faitful. I would be more ok with it if you could have a relatively normal marriage if you strived for it, but even if you reject everyone else while upping your relationship with her, Kate will still be like "give me an excuse, motherfucker". Meanwhile notImoen (because what he did to her character was actually a fucking disgrace) and Sharna are living in your apartment constantly encouraging to actually cheat on you.

What's the plot of a dance with rogues? i never bothered playing it.

Bone Kenning I, Almraiven and Shadewood are great modules designed for evil mages.

You're a princess, the royal family gets slaughtered during the invasion and you end up being adopted by the local mob.

>Shame because the campaign actually works almost as well as aDwR
I disagree. It's got promise, but it's best towards the start and falls off as you get railroaded more and more towards the end of the module (even in comparison to ADwR, yes, I know). It's actually got the opposite problem to ADwR in that it never really gets over the dichotomy of the narrative constantly treating you as this unskilled chump while by level six or seven you'll be an absolute juggernaut; whereas ADwR goes the other way and offers a number of alternate solutions to problems or quests if your character is powerful enough - you can slaughter your way through almost every subquest in Part 2 if you're clever enough to pull it off.

He clearly neglected her for too long for some reason.

>Arcane casters have poor scaling compared to good melee builds.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>Bastard of Kosigan is also really good, but the last part(5th?) has a idiotically high power level which kind of put me off. The setting is a bit weird too, it's basically medieval Europe but with fantasy elements.
It's also somewhat infamous for being unstable, like how a lot of people have the game crash if they try to load a save in the second module.

>You're a princess from this one city-state called Betancuria.
>But all that changed when the Dhorn natio- I mean, empire, attacked.
>Your character tries to run from the castle as the Dhorn soldiers kill everyone, including your parents, but then you get abducted by a member of the thieves guild who basically kidnaps you (and also rapes you on the way, it's the only obligatory sex scene in the story to explain why your character isn't a virgin despite being a princess).
>Brings you to the Betancuria thieves guild and they decide to adopt you, in part because the guildmaster is actually a fairly ok guy who doesn't want you to get captured and executed, in part because you're valuable as the heir to the throne.
>Basically long ass adventure that involves your until then unexperienced and unskilled princess becoming a master thief as she does tasks for the thieves' guild.
>First part is centered around the city of Betancuria and certain areas around it, second part is a long journey because of plot reasons.

They have romances, but no sex scenes or anything.

Shoo shoo, retard.

nwn.fandom.com/wiki/Isaac's_greater_missile_storm
nwn.fandom.com/wiki/Time_stop
nwn.fandom.com/wiki/Maximize_spell
nwn.fandom.com/wiki/Empower_spell
nwn.fandom.com/wiki/Bigby's_crushing_hand
nwn.fandom.com/wiki/Wail_of_the_banshee

Do you even fucking play NWN?

This game is a crpg yeah? The hell is a module? Expansions made by fans or by the dev's? Is the base game good

I actually was going to write about that too. I'd be fine with the game treating you like a chump because your skills are as a spy in a "realistic" world, if it remained consistent. But it doesn't, because everyone else around you is treated as incredibly strong. Your wife can beat the Dhorn champion while naked. Imoen literally makes demons shit their pants just by being there. Your squadmates are experienced fighters that can storm into any place. Meanwhile you're a level 20 rogue that everyone treats like he's too fragile and should keep out of the fights or he'll get hurt.

>Spell Resistance: Yes
>Spell Resistance: Yes
>Save: Fortitude negates
Somehow I think you're the one who didn't play anything other than PvP.

>Only played an hour of the base module for NWN
>Bought the game just to ERP on a mod that steals assets from other games

>The hell is a module? Expansions made by fans or by the dev's?
Yes.

This has to be bait, no one can be this retarded...

Base game is okay, addons are good.
Module is basically a campaign, there's a toolset and you can make one yourself.

My immediate thought is that they're mods that the devs RIP off and sell mods
So its mods using a creation kit?

Why are all porn modules written by women or cucks?

>LOL, no, just no, please stop talking you have absolutely no idea what you are going on about.
He's correct in terms of dealing damage. Melee damage keeps increasing forever and can be further increased with magic weapons. Spell damage can't increase beyond a certain point, and that point is too low to contend with the inflated HP of very-high-level enemies. In fact, the higher spell levels have very few direct damage spells at all. There isn't any equipment that increases spell damage either, at least not in any module I've ever played. The most you can get from gear is some extra spell slots or boosts to your casting stat, which increases the DC of your spells, but not their damage.

>This game is a crpg yeah?
Yes.
>The hell is a module? Expansions made by fans or by the dev's?
Modules are the individual adventures you load and play, you know, like a specific story or part of one. Usually when most people say 'modules' they mean fan-modules, but the game does have an Original Campaign and two expansions (Shadows over Undrentide and Hordes of the Underdark) as well as a few official modules.

>spell resist
nwn.fandom.com/wiki/Spell_penetration
nwn.fandom.com/wiki/Greater_spell_penetration
nwn.fandom.com/wiki/Epic_spell_penetration
nwn.fandom.com/wiki/Breach
nwn.fandom.com/wiki/Greater_spell_breach
nwn.fandom.com/wiki/Mordenkainen's_disjunction
nwn.fandom.com/wiki/Evard's_black_tentacles

>Implying high SR is even prominent
>Implying AC is not much easier to increase
>Implying monsters dont generally have higher AC than SR

LMAO go back to WoW you stupid fucking retard, you dont know shit.

Only other crpg I played was planescape torment. Is this better or worse? Thanks for explaining

>>Implying high SR is even prominent
>>Implying AC is not much easier to increase
>>Implying monsters dont generally have higher AC than SR
Ah, okay, so you haven't actually played the game, you just like to come here and throw your autistic tantrums about PvP balance for a ded game. Thanks for confirming for everyone.

>My immediate thought is that they're mods that the devs RIP off and sell mods
No.
It's literally just new campaigns, but made by fans and sometimes devs. You've got an Official Campaign (which is garbage) and two expansions (which are good). Then you've got a few premium modules (made by devs, but not related to the campaigns in any way), and then the community can create new mods. Go visit nwnvault to see what they're about, and check out the ones that have been mentioned in this thread. Some of them are even better than official stuff.

There's also a NWN2 that operates in more or less the same way. OC is better than the one in NWN1, but still filled with cliches (it's literally "Ancient evil awakens, so grab your alcoholic fight loving dwarf and slap that bitch"), so you decide if that's a dealbreaker for you. The expansion, Mask of the Betrayer, is absolutely fucking amazing with writing comparable to Planescape but much better gameplay and I'll never get tired of recommending it. Storm of Zehir, the second expansion, takes a different approach. Imagine it as the Icewind Dale to the campaigns Baldurs Gate, but with a focus on commerce and merchants. Also has a lot of mods, but not as many as NWN1 because the creation kit was harder to use so it never took off in the same way.

No, they made a tool that can be used by any person to create new campaigns aka modules - create maps, dialogues, scripts, everything.
NWN has mods too, they just add new stuff to existing games - like new items, classes, textures, objects, etc. Modules often use these mods too.

DW Kama is one of the most powerful builds.

>he
No "he" (you) is not correct, casters do significantly greater damage in a shorter amount of time to a larger number of enemies than melee classes do

>Melee damage keeps increasing forever and can be further increased with magic weapons
No it doesn't weapons and stats are hard capped, the damage you can deal is finite.

>Spell damage can't increase beyond a certain point
Many spells are uncapped or have a cap so high no melee will ever reach it, this goes tenfold for stack-able AoE spells where one spell is literally able to deal thousands of damage to multiple enemies at once over time.

>the higher spell levels have very few direct damage spells at all
This is completely irrelevant

> There isn't any equipment that increases spell damage either
Spells are highly tied to your main casting stat, this effects multiple things such as DC and how often you can cast.

Good job outing yourself is a clown who has never played the game.

I played NwN 2 years back, how good is that game compared too the first? Does it have custom content like the NwN 1?

lolno

I remember really enjoying it too, only stopped playing because I got some kind of save file bug and couldn't progress.

High level casters are demigods, what the fuck are you talking about

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>I played NwN 2 years back, how good is that game compared too the first?
Personally, I think it's much worse. The only things I like about it are the quick spell menu and the ability to control your whole party instead of just your PC.

>Does it have custom content like the NwN 1?
It has some custom content, but nowhere near as much as NWN1 does, due to the toolset being much harder to use.

Play the 2 official modules, they are fucking great

>being so autistic you think everyone else is one poster
lmao

You're the one who completely fails to understand how basic mechanics work. I mean shit, it took someone else literally pointing out the problems with high-level arcane casters to you and half your responses to him are still innacurate.

Yeah, I share this opinion. I tried to finish nwn2 OC twice just to drop it somewhere in the second act. Should have started right from the addon.

>It's also somewhat infamous for being unstable, like how a lot of people have the game crash if they try to load a save in the second module.
It's something to do with the movie files it loads; I wish I knew enough about the toolset to try and fix it.

>Still samefagging because you got BTFO
LMAO

>You're the one who completely fails to understand how basic mechanics work
No, i think you will find it is you who has zero understanding of basic mechanics, spell resist LITERALLY does not stack, very few monsters have high SR compared to AC (you can literally look up enemies SR in the tool editor) SR is easy as fuck to shred.

You are a clown, a retard, a dumb child who has never played and knows absolutely NOTHING about NWN, you got BTFO with evidence and you you are desperately trying to shitpost and samefag as a form of damage control.

Walk away from your computer, you are done.

>just to drop it somewhere in the second act
What the fuck user the second act is the best part.
>The trial.
>Defending the mansion from a demon attack.
>Assaulting the keep.
>Actually getting the keep and starting to manage it.
How did you manage to go through the shitfest that is Neverwinter with all the rogue spam and then quit when shit gets cool?

Hey remember when melee none caster classes could deal 99% of an enemies hp as damage instantly, with no save?

Me neither, Anyone claiming melee classes can match the damage of casters in NWN is fucking deluded.

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>m-must be a samefag
Easy there, autismo, take your meds

To start with, talking about 'high SR compared to AC' is irrelevant, because you have a lot more factors going into your attack roll than your chance to overcome spell resistance, and more attempts.
But go on, b-b-btfo me with some autistic tantrum about how you can totally stack a dozen Blade Barriers and beat every enemy that way, like it's an engaging way to play.

I don't suppose that simply deleting the movie files would work?

>retarded druidfag has to use an example of a Druid spell when talking about arcane classes
LITERALLY RETARDED

I was just burned out. Game feels like being underwater.

I'm pretty sure Harm has a save

You have to actually land the touch attack for this spell.

Harm is a divine spell. We were talking about arcane spells.

No, it needs a movie file to load, otherwise the module detects it isn't there and fails to load.
I've been intending to try messing around in the toolset to try and get it stable for a while, but I know very little about using it to build modules.

I wanted to see if making a 'blank' movie file with the same name and using that instead fixed it, but I don't know if that's even possible.

Are you illiterate? Fucking sperg

>gets ABSOLUTLEY, UTTERLY, BTFO with FACTS and EVIDENCE
>REEEE a-autism, t-take your m-meds >:'(

LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>To start with, talking about 'high SR compared to AC' is irrelevant
No, its not they are equivalent mechanics, you fucking retard and SR can be entirely nullified unlike AC

YOU

STUPID

FUCKING

RETARD

inb4 that drooling retard druidposter quotes everyone who responded to him as a samefag, lel

>No, its not they are equivalent mechanics
So, thanks again for demonstrating you understand nothing about the game and how it works.

nwn.fandom.com/wiki/Spell_resistance
>Spell resistance (SR) is a special defense against some spells, akin in some ways to armor class.

Why are you so adamant on embarrassing yourself?

>if I cherrypick half a sentence, it seems like I'm right!
lmao
Just stop posting you utter retard, you're just grasping at straws now

No, Harm has no save

>"high level casters are demigods"
>can still shred through any army with any lord at the helm with Empire artillery

Can't beat faith, steel and gunpowder.

Fucking kek
Quoting a wiki is your argument now? This is hilarious

>akin in some ways
>in some ways
>equivalent
Are you functionally illiterate? You must be, to have bothered making this post.

Go on, I'm waiting to see you respond to everyone who pointed out your earlier retardation with "B-B-BUT MOMMY, IT'S A SAMEFAG IT MUST BE" just as the clueless newfag child you are

Mages are by far the most OP, as long as they get 10 levels of Pale Master so they are immune to devastating critical.
All a mage has to do is cast Epic Warding, Elemental Shield, and Mestil's Acid Sheath, then just sit back and cast whatever they want. Any melee character attempting to do damage will do more damage to themselves.

>Harm has no save
It is affected by SR, though, which is equivalent to a save :^)

>druid faggot posting his shitty outdated MP tier list in every NWN thread without fail

Best class to play through the campaigns are most certainly not casters, and definitely not fucking druids. Good luck even getting through the prison district when you use all your spells on 2-3 dudes before the next wave comes at you and you're forced to use that shitty rod of ice or whatever. Also you have to share xp with familiars lmao. Best classes are Clerics for godlike buffs, Paladins, Monks and pure Fighters.

This, but unironically.

>he still desperately trying to samefag

Formula to hit through SR
d20 + caster level + spell penetration vs. SR

Formula to hit through SR
d20 + BAB + attack/stat bonus vs. AC

literally the same mechanic

A lot of people talk about Harm being OP, but there's another trick clerics have--a little spell called "Blade Barrier."
It's a level 6 spell, so that means it can be used with Extend, Empower, and Maximize metamagic feats. This means you can stack around 25-30 of them in one spot and lure an enemy across it to take a fuckton of damage. Even if the enemy has a high reflex save, they're bound to roll a 1 at least once.

SR and DC save check are two entirely separate things.

What a fun way to play, that's really what I wanted from 60 hours of gameplay.

You can do the same thing with creeping doom, CD has the benefits of no save, ignores SR and slows enemies inside it.

>doesn't even know what a samefag is
>in addition to being functionally illiterate
Stop posting, you terminally retarded child.

EQUIVALENT MECHANICS :^)

It gets even worse, the dialogue is fucking retarded. Even when the game makes it clear Kate's fucking her old school friend Lisa you get literally zero (0) opportunities to address it or even bring it up in dialogue, you simply can't mention it at all. There's not even any plans to address this whatsoever, it's all going to be the retarded dev shoving in more of his donutsteel (((Imoen)))

You have to be pretty shit at the game to think clerics are better casters than druids

>Best classes are Paladins, Monks and pure Fighters.
Oh i see you were just trolling

Doesn't CD's damage start out low though? An enemy has to enter it over and over again before the damage ramps up. Also, it's a level 7 spell, so it can't be used with Maximize and can't be stacked as many times.

You'd have to be pretty retarded to be incapable of correctly interpreting a simple sentence on a Mongolian bone-carving BBS

what? you actually can talk about it with her if you are on that route

No SR and DC are not equivalent mechanics, AC is the equivalent mechanic to SR, DC effects to many, many abilities including melee abilities and on hit weapon effects... have you even played NWN before?

>Gets BTFO AGAIN
>Tries to samefag AGAIN
lol

You're legitimately autistic, aren't you?
I'm surprised they let people as badly affected as you survive unsupervised, let alone post on the internet.

Honestly it was bad enough when you were just autistic, but demonstrating how new you are so often is just sad.

>muh samefag
That doesn't mean what you think it means, newfaggot
Kys yourself

Is it worth playing NWN:EE online?
Which servers should I try?

This is stratosphere level autism

>An enemy has to enter it over and over again before the damage ramps up.
This is actually not true the spell starts ramping up the instant it is placed regardless of anything being in it or not, a possible bug? (pun intended) and increases further any time something enters or leaves its border, all creeping dooms also share the same formula (probably another bug) this any subsequent CD's placed after the first one (provided it is still in existence) will have the same damage. this means you can have multiple stacked creeping dooms with maxed out damage pretty quickly by skirting on the sides of the spell avoiding the ticks to avoid damage.

NWN was a very strangely programmed game

>he's still going
LMAO, al because he got BTFO

>being a newfag and proud of it
:^)
Don't forget how you tried to use a fucking wiki description as "proof" of your argument, now!

You're both incels though lets be honest

>playing this mind-numbing trash was great. What are some other garbage games and content I can waste my time on
lol
nwn was so disappointing

>they're both dierolls so they must be the same
Literally, unironically retarded

But you can't address it in any meaningful way whatsoever. I think you get all of one conversation, and your responses range from "I'm not sure about this" to "sadface". You can't have a deeper conversation about it, say you're cool with it because it's her, or discuss your relationship in any more detail (because Lisa content never ever), there's just nothing. There's not even any plans to make it more detailed, instead we get a heap of this retarded shit about the temple instead of making the current, existing characters make more sense or deeper.

>Same mechanic
>Same formula
>Have the same function

Yeah you right, totally not the same thing

No, you read on the wiki that they're the same, so they must be the same right?
Don't get confused.

Looks like CD can't be empowered. The only metamagic checked for in the spell script is extend.

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>But you can't address it in any meaningful way whatsoever. I think you get all of one conversation, and your responses range from "I'm not sure about this" to "sadface". You can't have a deeper conversation about it, say you're cool with it because it's her, or discuss your relationship in any more detail (because Lisa content never ever), there's just nothing.
Not even an option to discuss the possibility of a threesome? Lame.

A legitimate question - my joking vitriol aside for a moment, I am genuinely curious and don't mean to offend you.
Are you actually autistic? How can you know so much about the game, know how to use the toolset and not know how to properly read posts on an imageboard?

That is true but extend effectively increases its power and its able to tick for hundreds of damage even without empower

Not sure what you are talking about. All I said was that it doesn't work with Empower metamagic.

Oh, I thought you were that druidfag. Never mind, sorry for the trouble user.

Do you know much about the toolset? For module building?

Creeping doom apparently checks for SR when an enemy enters the area of effect, but does not check in the heartbeat script that executes every 6 seconds. In other words, the damage you take from staying inside the swarm will bypass SR.

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And the Heartbeat script.

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I ran a pretty popular server from 2003-2010. I restarted it for NWN:EE.
I know just about everything there is to know about the toolset, class balance, exploits...

>tfw no modules about drow elves

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You go to the Underdark in Part II of ADwR, user
If butchering an entire city of them is your style, of course.

Well-said. I think this is the biggest problem with the module, its inconsistency - you're meant to be some sort of special forces/irregular skirmisher/ranger/investigator, and you're on this team of hardcore badasses (even the rookie), and everyone treats you like you're made of glass even though by midlevels you'll probably be the most powerful of the lot able to solo much of the game by yourself (since Shadowdancer is the most broken class in 99.99% of modules since nobody ever balances HiPS effectively, even the modules that presume you'reg going to have it).

The railroading has got worse over time, too, with the game arbitrarily deciding a situation is "too tough" for you to fight through - or even attempt fighting through - when you'd easily be able to handle it mechanically.

The SR check on entry is for the slow effect not the damage

Not him, but what makes you say that? Why wouldn't it be for both?

Part 3 of Gladiatrix also has a pretty long segment in the Underdark, where you have to pose as a drow to destroy a house from within.

No, I mean playing as a drow qt, competing with other houses(and within your own house) for power.
There's hunt through the dark, but it's basically hack and slash and you're getting on the surface really quickly.

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>Gladiatrix
Honestly, what did you think of it?

Thats just how it works, i have no idea why, i dont know if its intentional or not.

I always get hung up on what class I want to play in this damn game, wish I wasn't so damn indecisive with it. What's the most fun class/class combos in your opinion and why?

I haven't played Aielund Saga but Tales of Arterra was a big disappointement for me.

You get an experienced sucubbus as party member and potential lover and she is the most kuudere character that I have ever seen, even more than Rei from evangelion

You become the choosen of the god of death and in terms of gameplay almost nothing change

I wanted to try to play again the second part without companions to see if I could manage to end dating the choosen of the god of war, but always when I try I tired of the plot of the game.

The first part of the module had it's problems, but they were much minor.

I don't get it, is chosen god of war your character or an npc?

It's not bad, actually.

The choosen of the god of war is an NPC, you are the choosen of the god of death

Oh, nice! I've been playing modules for a while, but I kinda missed the boat on servers and persistent worlds. Which one is it? If you don't mind random anons from Yea Forums joining, that is

Anyway - I'm not sure if you ever played it, but the second module of the Bastard of Kosigan series has a persistent error where it simply cannot load saves made during that module; trying freezes the game and corrupts the save as well. Have you ever heard of anything like that before?

Damn, I can't read, thanks.

>You get an experienced sucubbus as party member and potential lover and she is the most kuudere character that I have ever seen, even more than Rei from evangelion
Yeah, that disappointed me too.

>I wanted to try to play again the second part without companions to see if I could manage to end dating the choosen of the god of war, but always when I try I tired of the plot of the game.
Unfortunately, you can't romance her. Another disappointment, because I liked her.

>Anyway - I'm not sure if you ever played it, but the second module of the Bastard of Kosigan series has a persistent error where it simply cannot load saves made during that module; trying freezes the game and corrupts the save as well. Have you ever heard of anything like that before?
I'm not him, but I had that problem too. It's fairly common, but I don't think there's a fix.

I wouldn't describe Persey as an 'experienced' succubus, necessarily. She's pretty unformed as a person, she's spent most of her life enslaved to the one mage who abused her all the time and since becoming free of him the game makes it clear that most of her work in the brothel is just Charming people and having them stare at her.

The reason nothing much changes mechanically when you find out you're the Chosen is because it's already the reason you're so powerful; ie some level-20 superhuman individual. And you do get some pretty great bonuses, either a bunch of powerful items if you take the evil path or a mad powerful inherent buff if you stay good.

>to see if I could manage to end dating the choosen of the god of war,
You cannot. Sorry, user.

>I don't think there's a fix
Isn't it just an error in module's code?

>help the qt half-drow out
>tells you to come back later, and she'll "help you out with some combat training"
>she literally does
Absolute madwoman

Did she fug you?

She gives you literal combat training that gives you a bunch of experience and (if I remember correctly) an Attack bonus boost

Good, but you didn't answer my question.

>I'm not him, but I had that problem too. It's fairly common, but I don't think there's a fix.
Yeah, that's why I was asking. If I knew anything about the toolset I'd investigate myself, but I don't.

If it is, I don't think anyone's found it yet.
The module itself seems fine, you can play it normally, it's just almost impossible to load saves made within the module - if you play it start-to-finish it works completely fine.

The most info I've ever found about it is this GoG thread from a couple years back, they don't have a clue either
>gog.com/forum/neverwinter_nights_series/having_trouble_loading_saved_games_in_nwn1

I remember playing all these D&D games on release really enjoying the setting and Faerun and the world and the lore, dreaming about the type of games we might have in the future.
literally all D&D games after neverwinter were shit and now it's all too casual

Are there any hakpaks that were used for part 2 exclusively? Maybe they're bad in some way and make saves corrupt.

I wish we'd had a proper sequel to NWN.
NWN2's UI and controls are too clunky and NWN2 was useless for multiplayer because of how buggy it was.

The first entry in the Bastard of Kosigan series, Exile to the West, was my favorite NWN1 module so far. The ambience was better than in the witcher 1 in my opinion, and that was the best part of the witcher 1.
The second entry in the bastard of Kosigan was a short buggy mess.
Later the series wasn't such a buggy mess anymore, but it completely destroyed the cool ambience of 1, and the plot seemed to be of a bad JRPG.
In the first one, magic was very rare and it's users dangerous and cast outs.
Later, basically everyone had mages and mages had shops in town.
In the first one, users of divine magic were EVEN MORE RARE, something that people didn't even understand, later it become more common place, and what's worse, it made no sense considering the lore behind Christianity in later game.

Put every setting to the minimun, try to enter in safe mode, watch the cinematics in the opening of the game (I have no idea why this influence), and it works MOST of the time, for me at least. After you are loged in you can put the setting higher again.

I understand the explanation for why the MC barely got stronger after the choosen thing, but he was still weak compared to the other choosen. Again, since there was the blood shenanigans of the liches, it kind of explain, but it's disappointing all the same

But talking about disappointing - WHY can't I date the choosen of the god of death? That was the only thing that kept my interest in the second part of the module. When I tried to date her the first time she refused because of my companions, what other reasons she gives not to?

Not him, but no, you can never actually do anything with her, even though she flirts with you like crazy throughout the module.

Does Swordflight have romance? I noticed you seem to have only one companions, a blue chick that I think was supposed to be a genasi.

Daily reminder that NWN sucked ass even for its time. It was better than NWN2, though, which was the most generic motherfucking piece of trash I have ever played in my life. Like seriously, I think Final Fantasy 1 has more originality than NWN2's base campaign.

Mask of the Betrayer is fucking great, though.

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Sadly, no.

A Hunt Through the Dark, user.

>But talking about disappointing - WHY can't I date the choosen of the god of death? That was the only thing that kept my interest in the second part of the module. When I tried to date her the first time she refused because of my companions, what other reasons she gives not to?
It's been a while since I played it, but I don't remember her ever giving a real reason for not getting involved with you.

>Daily reminder that NWN sucked ass even for its time.
Maybe if you're talking about the OC, but the expansions were good, and the toolset is still unmatched.

>It was better than NWN2, though, which was the most generic motherfucking piece of trash I have ever played in my life. Like seriously, I think Final Fantasy 1 has more originality than NWN2's base campaign.
I don't mind if something is generic. I can enjoy generic. What bothered me about the NWN2 OC is that the characters were all horribly annoying and unlikable.

The main reason you're so weak compared to the other Chosen is that you -and your god - are just coming into your power. The gods depend on their Chosen, as well as their worshipers, for power as well as the Chosen receive their power from their god. The other Chosen are all powerful individuals with many years of experience, backed by gods with huge popularity and many worshipers.

Your god's time as God of the Sun has mostly waned, and his power as Hecatieus is just starting to grow.

>WHY can't I date the chosen of the god of war?
Because of her shitty upbringing with parents who hated each other she doesn't feel like wants a normal relationship with someone, she just concentrates on being Chosen instead. The fact that you can become flirty friends with her if you make the right choices is actually a pretty significant friendship on her part, she'll tell you.

Nonsense, bullying Grobnar was fun.

Hey, Shandra and Ammon Jerro were great. Khelgar was pretty fun.

>Because of her shitty upbringing with parents who hated each other she doesn't feel like wants a normal relationship with someone, she just concentrates on being Chosen instead. The fact that you can become flirty friends with her if you make the right choices is actually a pretty significant friendship on her part, she'll tell you.

That's not fair, she married some king in another land in the epilogue when I played the first time.

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>Grobnar
He looks like a wooden doll from hell.

Prophet is a literal masterpiece, probably the best NWN module. It gets really good only near the end of chapter 1, but then the ride doesn't stop until the very end.

Did she? I don't remember that epilogue. I just remember it mentioning that we met again many times, as great friends and friendly enemies.
If you genuinely try for a relationship with her she'll tell you that it won't work out because all her "relationships" consist entirely of using the other person until she gets bored, so... maybe that's what she was doing?

>masterpiece

>the characters were all horribly annoying and unlikable.
Khelgar was a bro. Neeshka was fun to have around. Sand was a constant source of snarky commentary. Grobnar could be annoying at times, but he also had his good moments. Shandra was probably one of the best "normal person pulled into an adventure way over her head" kind of characters I've seen.

The base campaing of NWN2 is considered bad, but I think the base campaing of NWN1 is worst.

The expansion, Mask of The Betrayer, is considered one of the greatest WRPG adventures of all times.

Mechanically, I personally prefer NWN2 over NWN1 many times. You can properly control your party members, you can see the area of effect of spells before you cast them, there are more camera view modes, there is a quick spell casting menu that saves a lot of trouble, and I believe that there are more classes/feats/spells if I'm not mistaken. (However NWN1 still has some that NWN2 doesn't, like time stop).

If you play as a solo martial, it might not make much difference, but it would be a colossal difference playing with a party of spell casters from NWN1 to NWN2.

NWN1 has more modules than NWN2, but I would say that I personally think that NWN2 has more high-quality modules than NWN1.

Maybe so. I think I have a save file near the end of the game, I will try to play it until the epilogue to show, if the thread is still up.

Sorry for the delay. I'm not sure; I checked the Vault but even the French versions come as compilations these days so I can't tell if there any hakpaks that are used just by the second module.

>Put every setting to the minimun, try to enter in safe mode, watch the cinematics in the opening of the game (I have no idea why this influence),
Yeah, it's weird, isn't it? I worked that out too after a long time of playtesting and trying to rush through to see if it works, but I have no idea why not skipping into the main menu would make a difference.

The error is just so unique, and weird, that I'm dedicated to trying to work out what the fuck is going wrong to cause it in the first place.

Swordflight is an endless grindfest from start to finish. It gets a lot of roleplaying options for any class/skill and a hardcore combat, but I consider it very overrated.
I liked chapted 1 the most, it really makes you feel like a low level scrub. Autor kinda ran out of steam in chapter 3, and I only got to the hub in chapter 4 before putting it on hold.

I concur entirely. Full party control alone puts NWN2 about the first game, desu

I liked NWN2's OC and the party, too.

> but I would say that I personally think that NWN2 has more high-quality modules than NWN1.
My favorite campaign ever (even more than Aielund Saga) was the Conan Chronicles for NWN2. I never see it recommended in any threads though.

I am talking about the OC. Though I don't remember anything about the DLCs. Like I've played them back when I was a kiddo, but I have no recollections of them.

You're right, desu.

>Neeshka
>Fun
What did he mean by this?

>Did she? I don't remember that epilogue.
Different user here: Yes, she did. I remember that as well. The epilogue says something like "After he pursued her for years on end, she finally gave in."

If it doesn't have any lewd in it it's usually not mentioned. Would it be enjoyable even though I've never read a Conan story? I've been meaning to try it for a while, I've just had other things to play first.

Usually for NWN2 people recommend things like Crimmor and Path of Evil, both of which I got sick of approximately instantly.
Have you tried The Maimed God's Saga? That was fun.

Thanks, user. I don't even have the game installed anymore, I'm about to build a new PC so I can't check any of this for myself.

>not wanting your own devoted pet Tiefling qt

Damn, thanks user.

That's pretty cute actually. Module where you're a king pursuing a cute half-drow warrior when?

I've been playing through the OC knowing that it is relatively bad but please tell me that Chapter 3 is better than the slog that is Chapter 2

Yeah, I would definitely recommend them despite not knowing about Conan. You don't really need to know about the world of Hyboria except to know that "Hey, it's that one place where X happened!" You usually get explanations about all that stuff pretty quick (like, "you're going to Zamora, the city of thieves, that basically tells you what you really need to know about it"). Also, it did have some lewd, but it was fade to black.

I never played Crimmor and I also got tired instantly of Path of Evil, but I do remember having a great time with Maimed God's Saga. I also remember I tried to roleplay a warrior priest from Warhammer as a priest of Tyr and it was fucking funny.

Dude, just go straight to the expansion, no point in playing the OC. You even have to start over with a level 1 character that's unrelated to the previous one.

I'd prefer a module where the half-drow warrior pursues you. Drow are a femdom race, after all, but this time it could be gentle femdom.

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have you tried a jail module cuz people who like boring shit like this game should be jailed lol

...who's also autistic to the level that she's borderline a mental patient? Nah, I'm good.

The other user's right, just go straight to the expansions if you're finding it a slog. You start over with a completely different character (and use the same in both campaigns, so you import one from SoU to HotU) and both are much more enjoyable than the OC. If you really want to, you can go back and play the OC later
Chapter 2 is actually the high point of the game, Crestwood and shit

Not joking. I really disliked the beginning, especially that fucking spider cave and a swamp, and thought that the guy recommending it was lying.
But everything after the elven city is an absolutely fantastic experience. Ending of chapter 2 is some god tier mindfuckery, and I really don't want to spoil it.

lol

Underage.

lol

Underage.

Neeshka is not autistic, she just had a hard life! Please do not bully the Tieflings.

Alright, so I checked the downloaded files and I have no idea if there's a hakpak that's only used for the second module. Is there any way to check the module itself in the toolset to see?

The only reference I could find is this, in one of the readmes
>Known issues:
>It may happen that the game crashes when you reload. If you encounter such difficulty, please, get out of NWN and try again at least twice. (the module requires important memory resources).
Which isn't very helpful.

Alright, thanks user. I've been meaning to go through and play all the NWN and NWN2 modules I'm interested in, whether I've played them before or not, so I'll definitely give the Conan series a try - I was just daunted by not knowing anything about the books.
>it did have some lewd
Nice!
>but it was fade to black
Aww.

TMGS is pretty fun, it was a bit too railroaded at times (just with limited options for people to interact with, for example) but aside from that it was really enjoyable to play through, a great story and fun characters.

>Ending of chapter 2 is some god tier mindfuckery, and I really don't want to spoil it.
You can't really spoil Prophet, because it's just the same thing over and over again. It spoils itself the first time it pulls its one trick.

>I'd prefer a module where the half-drow warrior pursues you. Drow are a femdom race, after all, but this time it could be gentle femdom.
It hurts that this module doesn't exist. Drow are the perfect waifus, and even the EE release hasn't resulted in more modules being made.

If only I had some talent for building, scripting, or writing

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You only need one level of a wizard to get the access to arcane archer, consider it as an almost free UMD. The best thing about high level AA is that you basically always hit shit, even if you damage is lower than the damage from melee weapons.
Fighter is very solid because of his fighter-only weapon feats. Bard or cleric are also solid and probably stronger because of their buffs, but fighter is the most straightforward. Ranger gets nothing for a bow and you won't level it enough to make the pet worthwhile.

Sadly, only Aielund Saga gives you really good bows, really good special arrows AND scales into the epic levels to make this class fun. But it was a fun playthrough.

adwr has the best sex scenes and they are all text-based with fade-to-black view.

I did it.
Because of what she said about the companions I thought that maybe if I played without any companions I could date her.

Conan is very lewd, in the second part of the module you are an gladiator and if you get enough charisma, noble women will pay for you to bed them. Also, it's full of skympy barbarian outfits for women(PC and NPC alike).

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Alek*whatever his name* created that secret order to fuck you over as hard as possible, and the monk girl is only there because she wants to kill you to avenge her family.

CUTE
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Well done user, I didn't remember that at all but it's great.
I don't think you can romance her even without companions; I think she just tells you more directly that she's not interested because of her background. Then again, I'm not absolutely sure

That's true, I just figured that by 'fade-to-black' he meant 'undetailed'

>in the second part of the module you are an gladiator and if you get enough charisma, noble women will pay for you to bed them. Also, it's full of skympy barbarian outfits for women(PC and NPC alike).
Sold!

I know. Unfortunately for me, I actually played Prophet all the way through.

Goddamit, I wanted to spread destruction across the world with her as a couple of war and death.
She is also much more charming than your romanceable companions.

Maybe one day I will still try just in case to confirm if really really I can't date her - but assuming that I can't, I feel like the second part of Tales of Arterra was a bigger disapointment to me than I thought. It's frustrating.

>I just figured that by 'fade-to-black' he meant 'undetailed'
Well, I guess we need further explanation then.

Has anyone played the Enigma Island series? Any good?

Alternatively, does anyone else have a comprehensive list of modules to recommend?

>Maybe one day I will still try just in case to confirm if really really I can't date her
Don't waste your time. You really can't romance her. You probably wouldn't need to play the module to find out anyway. You could just open it in the toolset and check her dialogue file.

>She is also much more charming than your romanceable companions.
True, but I still liked Evanine and particularly Persey.
I also really liked the ending where you become a benevolent priest like the Chosen of Love suggests and reestablish your religion.
The Chosen of Love a qt, too.

Will report back in one of these threads with results.

A dance with rogues

Because obviously that series needed to be even *more* grimdark.

I really, really wish we'd gotten a turn-based 4e game with a toolset like NWN's.

>toolset like NWN
>in era of DLCs

Pathfinder kingmaker promised one but who knows if they deliver

eh maybe it was just my wishful thinking i did look into the kickstarter page and nothing is here

Yeah, I know. But I can dream. Or hope that someone takes it upon themselves to port 4e rules into RPG Maker somehow.

>Pathfinder kingmaker promised one
Did it? I thought it had no toolset and no plans for adding one.

They didn't, if you are not talking about some recent news.

You are right, that's the best way. I looked now, and basically she just skips the line about the companions and the rest is the same. Very frustrating.

I don't like Evanine, and while I like Persey, I mostly saw her as an autistic daughter than an love interest.

>Alternatively, does anyone else have a comprehensive list of modules to recommend?
The Neverwinter Vault has a whole bunch of lists that might help.

neverwintervault.org/forums/neverwinter-nights-1/nwn1-modules/nwn1-module-lists

Thanks user.

Thanks, user. I've skimmed those lists before, I was just wondering if anyone had any particular recommendations to throw up.

lilura1.blogspot.com/2017/12/Core-Neverwinter-Nights-Adventure-Modules-and-Campaigns.html
I find this list better.

post aribobs

>December 4, 2017
Damn, this list is great - and recent! Thanks, user!

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What is the best romance in a NWN1 module?
I'm not asking the best module with romance, but the best romance in a module, even if the other aspects of the module are mediocre.

Fun fact: I love Aribeth so much, I made a knight version of her in Disgaea.

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Cute!

Is fan Baldur's Gate remake for NWN2 any good?

You and me both.

Give me a decent pally build, nerds.

I tried a bit of it and it seemed alright, barely even got to Nashkel so take that with a grain and a half of salt.

I would wholeheartedly recommend the Icewind Dale remake though, it's excellent, there's a shitton of effort put into it, and the Yxnewhatevver demon fight is some top tier CRPG brawling. It's basically ID, except in 3D and you get to use all the broken-ass 3.5e multiclass munchkin bullshit.

NWN2's shitty slow movement and the reliance on crafting to truly get geared hurt the IWD remake a lot.

What is the really complete edition of NWN Platinum or Diamond?Pirated the beanbog version and i feel robed

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Diamond is the "ultimate" edition.

Thanks

Play neverwinter nights 2.

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