Why do you faggots act like these characters aren't Nintendo related when all of their franchises originated on the NES?

It actually started on PC.

These are and have always been Sonyfag characters, and no amount of mental gymnastics will change that. Fuck you Nintendorks trying to claim our mascots as your own.

Could have said, “who’s series have been on Nintendo going back to the NES days” and this statement would be true.

>seething over a fucking party game

I don't think console wars is a thing in Japan

But why use the characters from those franchises who never appeared on a Nintendo system instead of ones that did. Like Cecil or Terra in Final Fantasy's case?

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But Joker is specifically stated to be a P5 rep though,also he's a pretty bad choice for a representative of whole MT franchise because P5 style isn't similar to anything else besides P5,even other Persona games

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>Originated
>Was half-assed ported to NES

>Persona
>First game started on PS1 and continued on their platform

How delusions nincucks are?

Persona is part of SMT you dumbass. That's like saying Yoshi isn't a mario character.

Metal Gear was MSX
Persona was PS1

FF was the only one that actually originated on the NES and it was actually the Famicom but I'm not arguing semantics

Actually nope, it was a different company that made Giten megami tensei
Megaten started from painfully average books, the first atlus game was set in between the second and third book and was on the nes
If we consider the series from the SHIN megami tensei, it started on the snes

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Because people didn't start caring about them until they were on something else.

Wrong
> Final Fantasy
1 (NES)
2 (NES)
3 (NES)
Adventure (GBC)
Legend (GBC)
Legend II (GBC)
Legend III (GBC)
4 (SNES)
5 (SNES)
6 (SNES)
Mystic Quest (SNES)
7 (PS1/NS)
8 (PS1)
9 (PS1/NS)
10 (PS2/NS)
> Megami Tensei
Digital Devil Story (NES)
Digital Devil Story 2 (NES)
Digital Devil Story Remake (NES)
Megami Tensei Last Bible (NES)
Shin Megami Tensei (NES)
Shin Megami Tensei II (NES)
Shin Megami Tensei IF (NES)
Revelations Last Bible (GBC)
Megami Tensei Last Bible 2 (GBC)
Megasmi Tensei Last Bible 3 (SNES)
Revelations Persona (PS1)
Devil Survivor (Saturn)
Persona 2 Duology (PS1)
> Metal Gear
Metal Gear (NES/MSX)
Metal Gear 2 (NES/MSX)
Metal Gear Solid (PS1/GCN)
Metal Gear Solid 2 (PS2)
Metal Gear Solid 3 (3DS/PS2)
Metal Gear Solid 4 (PS1)
Metal Gear Solid PW (PSP)
Metal Gear Solid 5 (PS4)

Persona - it's own series and this is character specificity from it and not from megami tensei.

> Persona, also known as Shin Megami Tensei: Persona, is a video game franchise developed and primarily published by Atlus.
Literally is Shin Megami Tensei, Persona 1, 2, 3 & 4 were all called Shin Megami Tensei

Persona is a fucking spinoff of SMT, the games even used to have SMT written on the fucking box

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>Persona 1, 2, 3 & 4 were all called Shin Megami Tensei
But it is character from Persona 5, which was literally called ペルソナ5

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Just cause the drop the title doesn't mean it's not still a spin off you autistic fuck

>BUT THIS ONE DIDN'T THEREFORE IT IS NO LONGER PART OF THE SERIES
are you fucking stupid? Sakurai himself even pointed out Persona's roots with SMT when explaining why Joker got in.

Yeah, it is great choice to put character from a series and the game which nincucks will never play or played. Ignoring all shitty Shin Megami Tensei games on their handheld toy.

>Sakurai himself
He made persona series or something?

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA OP YOU FAGGOT

>not taking into account that FF and Metal gear games have jumped ship over 3 console generations ago
>not knowing that the more recent generations will naturally have less games solely due to the fact that development time has increased since 3d became a mainstay
>counting SMT as Persona, which have only thematic connections, and have vastly different gameplay and identity
>not taking into account that most all Nintendo ports have been in response to Smashfag influence, prior to which have mostly stuck with Sony

because nintendo doesnt own the franchises?

>it's just some dude looking for an excuse to shit on SMT and console war
I don't know what I expected

Smash rosterfags are fucking delusional & know nothing about games. Sakurai himself even stated criteria for 3rd parties in the past that still has never been broken. But westcucks will pretend that they mean nothing simply to validate their shif character making the roster.

Yoshi is totally a different franchise from Mario, bro

Final Fantasy started at 7

So why they took character from Sony exclusive game and not from tons of SMT games from nintendo systems?
Hmmm, maybe because one game actually good with great characters and popular, unlike others.

Nintendo doesn't own a single one of those franchises. Fuck off. This is pathetic mental gymnastics.

Persona has always been directly called “Shin Megami Tensei” up until Persona 5 dropped the moniker from the title

What even is the criteria

because 2 of those are for fags.

>there are people that actually think this

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Show me this boy in any SMT game please.

> Having Nintendo history doesn’t count unless they aren’t directly owned by Nintendo
Shit i guess that means Bayonetta, Ryu, Mega Man & Ken are getting cut then

recency bias. no reason to shill any of the old SMT or Persona leads since they get replaced each installment, and you can't really shill SMTV if you don't even know when it will be done.

That doesn't mean anything besides the fact that they have a loose namesake connection. Persona is vastly different franchise than SMT.

But doesn't it mean Smash Bros promoting Sony's exclusive now?

Jesus do Smashfags actually believe the shit they are saying? I refuse to believe that somoene can actually think that Final Fantasy or Megami Tensei isn’t literally associated with Nintendo. Literally the only 3rd party franchise with more of a connection is Mega Man

maybe they're hoping that fans will do research on the series and see the roots with Atlus and then people will buy Atlus's next game, exclusive to Nintendo Switch, SMTV

The criteria to get into Smash is:
Be a notable game character
Have a game in the franchise on a nintendo console

When was last time when you played Persona or FF game on nintendo system?

people are fucking literal and think that a character literally represents PURELY the game they appear in and not a series as a whole.

>Persona Q and Q2 are 3ds exclusives
>Final Fantasy 9 currently on Switch, Final Fantasy 7 coming soon

Metal gear and metal gear solid are two different things

>>Final Fantasy 9 currently on Switch, Final Fantasy 7 coming soon
That stretching.

Persona Q2 on 3DS a week ago
Final Fantasy 9 today on switch

Bitch did you seriously forget FF9 literally was re-released on the Switch last week? And also, I did play the best persona game exclusively on Wii U

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>not mainline
>ports

> Sakurai’s Criteria for 3RD PARTY newcomers (No you fucking idiots, Fire Emblem isn’t 3rd Party)
> 1. Characters from a series that has no future are rarely chosen
> 2. Fighters that switch models are a different matter."
> 3. Even if a character is unique, if they overlap with other characters and aren't unique as a fighter, they are rejected.
> 4. In order to fit the character into the world of Smash, I need them to allow me some artistic license.
> 5. It might be something like a courtesy to include a character who has the history of being on a Nintendo platform.
> 6. The character must display personality in their game
> 7. It’s important to have something that ONLY the character can do
> 8. Potential development issues, and game balance is also taken into some consideration
> 9. There are some characters that can’t join the battle, even if they meet the qualifications
> 10. The amount of out of series crossover appearences the character has appeared in is sometimes also taken in consideration
> 11. Is the character the representative character for their respective Source Material
> 12. The character must have something inherently unique about them
This has never been broken for any Third party character & never will

>Final Fantasy 9
>FF9
>2019
>Bragging about it ike it is something special
Wow

if you seriously want to play that game, Persona isn't a mainline either since it's a spinoff of SMT.

Not joker
But I can show other characters
What connects the various smt games and spin-offs are the demons and the over-arching lore if the universe
But anyone can start from any game without any flowchart of what is happening because they work as a self-contained story

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For when Cloud was in Smash for 3ds and Wii u yeah but now not really

No they aren't, the main difference is the camera angle, they feature the same characters and continuation of the story

>not mainline
So?
>Ports
So?

Final Fantasy on switch was what I was pointing out, I never said about quality

dude asked when the last time anyone's played final fantasy on a nintendo system, and so I listed a FF game on a Nintendo system. Don't try to move the goalposts here it just makes you look retarded

Persona 5 isn't even on switch and isn't coming to it,Sakurai just choose the dude cause he liked his game the main game not the the spinoff

>FF game on nintendo system?
>what is Crystal Chronicles
>what is Final Fantasy Tactics
>what is that FFXII sequel on the DS
>what are the Switch ports of 7,9,10, and 10-2

> He thinks Persona 5 isn’t coming to the Switch
> He thinks Atlus didn’t change sides for Nintendo after Sony fucked Japanese developers over with their censorship
> Female Joker was literally found in the Datamines as Joker’s alt costume, furthering the comfirmation that we are getting a Persona 3 Portable situation
Kill yourself coping Sony fag

>he forgets that most of Atlus's rereleases of their games is so they can have an excuse to also make a handheld version

I want Persona 4 Golden on Switch without Marie but with the snowboarding stuff

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Someone tell these faggots about smt if... before I have a fucking aneurysm.

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What is Yea Forums gonna do after all the DLC is released, is smash discussion gonna be less retarded?

Personafags keep trying to act like it doesn't exist

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As mascots go
Aigis > Jack > Teddie > Morgana

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Didn't Sakurai say the only reason he added Joker was because he liked P5 a lot? That seems to be the only way a character/series that has very little do with Nintendo is getting in.

he also mentioned that Persona was part of the SMT series which has the history necessary

note that December is 5 months after July

Nintendo picked the DLC characters and Sakurai narrowed the list they gave him down to 5 he could see work.

Joker was literally announced the month Persona Q2 came out in JPN, and he will release when it comes out in the west.

Joker is also the mascot, front and center, on the PQ2 boxart. It's really not that hard.

>(fixes glasses) (snorts and smugly gurgles) Well you see actually. Metal Gear originally released on the MSX2 computer system in JULY 1987 then on the NES in (fixes glasses again) DECEMBER 1987. So you are incorrect OP to say it's a nintendo franchise.

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