So i saw the ancestral edition on sale this morning for 18 bucks. I went to work, got a 20 buck card and get home 30 minutes ago to see the sale has ended.
1. Is this game worth it?
2. Can steam honor a later sale at all or maybe the developers themselves?
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>1. Is this game worth it?
no
>2
see one
The game is an excercise in tedium, even if you do everything flawlessly. If you're of the retard school of thought who thinks atmosphere alone can carry a game built around RNG and paradoxically non-existent customization, you might like it. If you enjoy video games where the gameplay is the front and center (if you don't, you're wrong), there is a very good chance you'll hate it.
Also all of the DLCs make the game even worse
>The game is an excercise in tedium, even if you do everything flawlessly. If you're of the retard school of thought who thinks atmosphere alone can carry a game built around RNG and paradoxically non-existent customization, you might like it. If you enjoy video games where the gameplay is the front and center (if you don't, you're wrong), there is a very good chance you'll hate it.
I like FTL alot. Does that reach the same vein to you?
Not gonna tie my debit card to a program i use once in a blue moon.
A great FTL player can salvage 98% of runs, and the whole design philosophy of the game is rogue-lite
DD is the opposite of a rogue-lite/like, everything carries over and you're always stuck with whatever happens, meaning you have to burn more time just to get back up to where you were if you fail.
As someone who loves FTL, DD sucks.
Wait for a sale.
It's a decent game, though a bit shallow.
Oh. That's a downer.
Guess i'll save the 20 bucks for something else that catches my eye, eventually.
>assmad faggot detected
don't listen to this guy, there's a good chance this game will grab you if you liked FTL
don't be a brainlet with only one viable squad and this game's rng won't be able to punish you overly much
the only thing that may put you off is the sheer quantity of missions you need to get through to get to the end of the game
if that doesn't bother you then managing to have a large and leveled roster with gear means even if multiple missions get fucked by RNG you'll still be sitting pretty
in essence if you can manage to be good in both campaign management and battle you'll be fine
Maybe i'd like it, but i can't get excited for something i can purchase anymore anyway. Appreciate the counter input though.
> SJW meets lovecraft.
It’s pretty meh. Just roll some dice and slap yourself on the wrist a few times to get an identical experience.
>SJW meets lovecraft.
How?
are you an idiot?
>he doesnt like equal opportunity death
No. Next question.
It’s fantastic, yes. I don’t think any of the DLC is good though, maybe the first one just for the Flagellant hero. Just buy the base game. And just so you know, the game isn’t about always winning or always making good situations. You can do a lot of that by learning to chain stuns, manage stress, and stall at the end of fights to get your healing and stress reduction going, but the game is more about how you recover from bad situations and how you manage the losses. It’s pretty unique in this way. I even tried to savescum once when my Legend Crusader had a fucking heart attack after becoming abusive and nearly turning on my own party because he got focused by some madmen that drove him insane. The game didn’t let me. It autosaved on the turn he died. Somehow, that was really refreshing to me.
no it sucks, it's literally just RNG after RNG. I refunded after a couple hours.
As a third take, the game is a bit bloated, and having to grind to level up a new party, or even worse, grinding for money to fund your grinding for a new party, makes the game almost unplayable. I mean they even designed a character who's sole purpose is to make the money grind easier. If you do end up getting it later either from another sale or just piracy, get yourself a mod that either gives you infinite money or a larger inventory to carry more loot to sell, the default inventory is small since you have to carry both supplies and loot in it. Don't cheat the permadeath, though. Is more inventory/infinite money casual as fuck? yes, but on the other hand, it makes your first run through a lot more tolerable, and if you end up liking the game, when you play it a second time through, you can turn up the difficulty, turn on Crimson Court, and enjoy a newer, harder experience playing the game properly.
>piracy
I forgot this was a thing. I assume torrents are still readily available somewhere to try the game before i have a chance to buy ?
Retard alert
It’s not overbearingly SJW but the black female Arbalest is pretty egregious. Shieldbreaker’s lore also feels like some kind of feminist wank.
yep, it's on GOG too so it's easy to pirate.
Dude just mod it if having 1 black chick bugs you that much lmao.
I did
Nigga, use Paypal. Steam has multiple forms of payment
I swear to fuck this is some of the most autistic Yea Forumstard shit I’ve ever seen in my life
Like holy fuck I’m as right wing as it gets and I hate SJW’s but when you see the existence of a black woman who happens to be a physically weaker backline ranged DPS and an exotic dancer forced into slavery escaping her abusive captors as SJW shit you need to take the fucking goggles off and slap yourself across the face to clear your head
Blacks shouldn't have any presence in western nations or media.
I assume that means the file is readily available?
>Using Arbalest
Your own fault dude.
Memes aside, I honestly don't believe you think this and just want an excuse to shitpost because you're bored.
I'd like to pirate this without a torrent.
Any idea where to look?
yes, there's like 20 seeders for the base game, 100 for the latest DLC, and about 40/20 for the older DLCs.
It's Lovecraft. You can't have black people heros in Lovecraft, or there's just no point using Lovecraft as inspiration.
>Like holy fuck I’m as right wing as it gets
I’m not buying it.
I’m giving my honest opinion.
Blacks make up roughly 11% of the Canadian population
One out of 14 heroes is black
That is fair and logically sound representation according to their current demographic
I get that Lovecraft hated nogs and all but PLEASE do not for a SECOND try to tell me that you actually believe that because a piece of media has Lovecraftian inspirations means that it somehow also has to also subscribe to HP Lovecraft’s views on race
That doesn’t even begin to make fucking sense and your premises don’t even remotely begin to justify your conclusion
>thinking one dungeon run is the same as one FTL run
Brainlet
> Female Warriors.
> Muh Smart Wymen Doctor who don't need no silly man.
> Can palette swap white characters black, can't swap black characters white.
Trash
>using arbalest
the only nigger in my party is the occultist, based sandnigger of heals and debuffs
Lovecraft's views are integral to his work, as is the case with any artist.
If you're going to take an artist's work and derive from it, it's just going to be a load of shit if all you're going to take over is "Shit's got tentacles yo".
You know he described the fish people in his work not too dissimilar from how he described blacks, right?
>Lovecraft’s views are integral to his work
No they aren’t. Says who?
I fail to see how that has anything to do with my arguments. Lovecraft was based, we know. I unironically think the world would be better off without nogs too but again, literally none of that has an effect on what we’re discussing.
Not our fault you dumbfucks brought them into your country. They shouldn't be here period.
Well then you know how having a black hero would seem egregious in context.
Says literally any analysis of his work holy shit you are dumb.
>Canadian
Well, that explains that.
>/pol/flakes are now shitting up DD threads
I'll agree with you irritating little shits on one single thing and that is needing a final solution to the alt-right problem.
I’m American you cunt. Red Hook is a Canadian studio so that’s equal representation for them. Yeah it sucks that there are blacks in Canada in the first place but you can’t do shit about that, and you can’t say it isn’t both fair and logical.
Again, just because a piece of media has Lovecraftian inspirations does NOT mean it also has to subscribe to his political or personal views. I challenge to give me a logical argument on why it has to.
I also challenge you to provide me a logical argument of why a piece of media inspired by a person’s fictional works must also include his personal and political views.
I just wanted to talk about this game and my failure to purchase it, what the hell happened.
/pol/
Literally Yea Forums happened
Are you honestly surprised?
Where can i find that download? I nabbed one from a site called freegogpcgames, all these always seems sketch to me though.
I don't get why so many SJW types flock to Lovecraft.
>Again, just because a piece of media has Lovecraftian inspirations does NOT mean it also has to subscribe to his political or personal views. I challenge to give me a logical argument on why it has to.
It doesn’t have to but it does give an air of authenticity to the work. You’re not going to change my mind.
HEY GUYS
WHAT IF
JUST WHAT IF
THEY JUST MADE THE ARBALEST BLACK BECAUSE THEY COULD?!
rarbg
also I was mistaken, the one with 100 seeders is the base game + all the DLC, not only DLC.
> Work inspired by Tolkien is completely okay to have Orcs suddenly deciding they're heroic white knights and what about a trans Ring Wraith?
Okay, so DD is not a 100% authentic representation of Lovecraft’s work and mythos. I fail to see how that is an issue. That’s what a derivitate, or an inspiration literally means. You pick and choose the parts of it you want to inspire your own work. No one ever said DD was an accurate or authentic representation of HP Lovecraft’s work, only that it was inspired by his work, which it is.
>argument ad nauseum
Why are you taking my words and intentions completely out of context like this?
Thank you kindly, i'll give it a go.
And that’s where the SJW criticism comes in, the one that triggered you so much.
What?
>dude just mitigate the RNG, just micromanage dude
This game sucks shit through a tube connected directly to the devs' assholes
>either of these examples in any way comparable to simply having a black character
??????????????????????????????
Orcs, and black people represent something in Lovecraft and Tolkien's work.
You can't just take the representation, completely change it and somehow still think it's even vaguely accurate to the original piece.
Lovecraft intentionally had his views on race in his work and he did this by his portrayal of different races in his universe. Completely changing that would be like taking what Tolkien uses Orcs to represent and changing it completely.
The game would be good if you didn't have to fight most bosses like 4 times each and if it was actually based on skill and not around how you manage the RNG
Too bad this is merely inspired by Lovecraft and is not some 1:1 accurate adaptation like you're complaining about as if it is.
Daily reminder that the majority of Yea Forums are casual scrubs
managing RNG bullshit IS the skill in this game
Wrong. DD is only inspired by Lovecraftian work, not directly taking races and views from it. A work literally using JRR. Tolkien’s Orcs and having them gay trannies would be wrong. A work using Orcs INSPIRED by Tolkien’s and having them be gay trannies is not “wrong” because they’re only inspired by, not directly taking from that work.
you don't have to fight the bosses 4 times each, all you need to do is clear the darkest dungeon
can’t wait to meet the giant penguins
BEHOLD!!! THE HORRIBLE TRUTH OF THE WORLD!!!!
what did red hook mean by this?
The game's devs seem to be convinced that players want a more "hardcore" experience and just artificially amp up the difficulty occasionally with patches (see delaying patch, corpses).
That aside, the game pretty much plays like a fucking gacha in terms of its depth. Your hours of gameplay have diminishing returns of results and it gets to the point where you're playing a game of trying to mitigate as much RNG as possible because the game is chocked full of it. In all honestly its just a slough for the sake of being a slough and its really not any fun post Lvl 1 dungeons where you just get reskins of old enemies with buffed health and attacks.
WHY WONT HE NARRATE MY LIFE!!!!!!!!!!!???!!!?!!?
they nerf all the fun stuff with each patch. Screw that, dude
Darkest dungeon/xcom threads are proof of this.
A work cannot be inspired by something if it subverts it entirely.
A work cannot be inspired by Lovecraft, and have black heroes.
You can turn off corpses and maybe even heart attacks. I'm certain corpses can be turned off.
>A work cannot be inspired by something if it subverts it entirely.
...Yes it absolutely can. This is one of the most moronic statements I've ever seen on this site.
I know you can, but the fact that they added the option to be able to turn them off speaks to the fact that they WANT the game to be more "hardcore" and satisfying if you beat it with their bullshit jumping through hoops. Just tacking on more difficulty without any real reason for doing so other than "added challenge" is a waste of fucking time, especially when they consider corpses and heart attacks being on to be the default/true way to play the game.
Well unfortunately for your argument DD is both inspired by HP Lovecraft’s mythos and fictional world, and also has black heroes. That’s what inspiration means. You can choose which parts you’re inspired by. You can take the mythos and world someone makes, make your own derivative without their personal and political views, and any logically person will still say that their work was your inspiration even if it’s not a perfectly accurate one. But this is the last thing I’ll say on this manner, because at this point all meaningful discourse has ceased and we’re simply arguing the semantics of the meaning and criterion of inspiration. Have a good one.
Corpses make it harder to mindlessly facetank and focus frontlines since everything comes to you. It accentuates the importance of positioning and having a team comp to cover all bases.
git gud scrub.
>Some of Lovecraft best stories were about how insignificant humanity is in the universe and how horrifying that revelation can be
>Darkest Dungeon ends with the game telling you that nothing you did matters, and that your family is trapped in an endless cycle until one of your descendants fails to stop the HoD and it destroys the world
>This isn't really Lovecraftian because black people exist
You're trying too hard
This game is definitely worth it, but be ready to face the RNG bullshit hapening again and again. Learn viable team compositions, skills and trinkets. Enjoy the amazing artwork and narration by Wayne June.
>happening
Literally everything about it but the gameplay is amazing. Everything that has been said about it being RNG, grinding, and a mobile-tier game is true. Honestly wish all the effort that went into this game went into making an animated series instead, the narration and artwork are fantastic. Shame about actually playing it though.
I don't get your whining. You think it's stupid/unnecesary, you have the option to turn those mechanics off but you still whine about them.
Something tells me that DD2 will be about traveling from the Hamlet to the Mountains with 6 party group, and surviving and fighting your way out to reach these maddening hills
I'm actually excited for it
The game desperately needs something new to it. At least 10 new heroes and a completely new gameplay process. Otherwise it won't be nearly as successful as the first one. DD is too damn repetitive, that's the problem.
The game was a success largely because of the narrator and artstyle.
Is the monk class as OP as everyone claims? I thought the art looked decent so I wanted to try him, but if he is actually capable of easily soloing runs, then I dont want him
>that pic
>actually using Martyrs seal
>thinking 76 chance to resist deathblow isnt still a huge chance to just die
you niggers have zero understanding of statistics
The game isn't hard at all and it's pretty clear how to reduce the chances of getting fucked over by random shit
But it's just tedious
You might love it at first but after a while, it's doing the same shit over and over again
Godtier aesthetics and atmosphere but that can't carry the game
what are you talking about?
The Vestal is by far the best character in the game if you mean her.