Is there anything Blizzard could do to bring Overwatch's popularity back to around where it was during its first year...

Is there anything Blizzard could do to bring Overwatch's popularity back to around where it was during its first year or is it a lost cause at this point?

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the game is straight cancer, there is no way Blizzard can change their player base. So it is a lost cause.

No, Battleborn already killed it beyond resurrection.

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if they dont release this character in a month or two things could be bad.

No, the honeymoon period is over. If they went F2P I'm sure they'd get a lot of new players though, just trying it out because it's famous.

Main reason I cannot care about OW is that it doesn't have a proper long-form single player campaign, and that it has multiplayer, and that multiplayer involves other people. Other people should fuck off.

Going f2p and having custom player controlled servers might help, but other than that I don't see them unfucking themselves. Shame because there has been some great porn made with the characters.

It's run by Blizzard, so no.

Nude patch.

Does it have a single player quest? That could bring interest from new players.

Single player campaign and going F2p

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get off the internet friend.

They should just give up and let the porn take control of the brand completely

start over change every hero back to how they used to be and balance the game all over again because it's currently a fucking mess

>I have no friends and I'm bad at video games compared to most other people so I hate all online games

single player campaign and dropping a bunch of new characters to make the game fresh again

It's got PvE stuff with lore snippets in them that they only trot out during events, so three times a year you sort of have a campaign

Doesn't this game take place in 2070 and have robots and A.I. and shit? Why does she use an early 2010s-style cellphone? Do the artists have no creativity to come up with a future phone?

Past a certain level, barring some radical new technology devices are only going to get smaller and be more efficient. What more could they make a smartphone do, that they don't already, that wouldn't be pointless for it's intended purpose?

This. Then balance from top down instead of bottom up. This is the only way to uncuck their constant fuckups with balance.

Quit with the same seasonal events and try something different. Retribution was a good change.

I think it's just the idea that people would be using smart phones that much in the future. It would probably look as out of place then as seeing old 50s and 60s sci fi now with landline telephones and room-sized computers recording data on magnetic tape

>plays videogames alone in his room
>I GOT FRIENDS THAT PLAY WITH ME

lol
Pathetic

Use the game assets and characters to create what would be traditionally considered a single player game, but allow people to invite their friends to team their way through it.

a good singleplayer
or a nude patch

Not make them a rectangle, wearables are becoming more widespread, having a breakable screen inside your pocket is not efficient

-Def not going f2p to let all the poor shitheads in
-Couch coop
-RPG mode (prefer single player)

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There is absolutely nothing Blizzard can do to revive Overwatch. Once the fortnite craze is over and the flavor-of-the-month Apex Legends event ends, the next new thing will drop in while ow fades into obscurity.

It probabaly does all sorts of shit modern smart phones can't do. As for that highlight intro, people have been doing self portraits since cameras became a thing, I doubt that'll stop 60 years from now.

I have a girlfriend and friends user, you're a bitter virgin projecting your loneliness onto others

>Singleplayer story modes for the characters or groups of chatacters
>co-op
>custom player servers. Probably won't happen though considering you can't even fucking type "ggez" last time I checked

>YOU HAVE NO FRIENDS
>gets called out for his faggotry
>ACTUALLY I HAVE A GIRLFRIEND AND FRIENDS THAT SUPPORT MY BITCH ASS

lol

This game has no lore.
What if dva's phone was an omnic? Would people have pet omnics? Why carry a phone at all when you have a robot dog with wifi?

The only way to boost its popularity again would be to make it f2p. It wouldn't make it any better though and it would only boost it for a few months.
It died because while fun it's not that deep and it's very repetitive and get stale fast. The only things that change it up are new characters but they come out slow and started being boring after Doomfist.

The shitty lootboxes being the only way to unlock new content, the way Blizz treats its players like diaper shitting infants, the social justice edge they put on it, etc helped kill it faster but the game would've died anyway.
I genuinely think it would've had another year if they didn't try so hard to shut down the porn and instead embraced it. Also if the going storyline wasn't so convoluted and chocked full of embarrassing plotholes and inconsistencies. I think that would've kept some people interested.

They've been going absolutely bananas with merch in the last year. They were silly for not doing it earlier while the game was at the peak of its powers in the first 18 months.

This. It's like the lore/ story is written by 20 different, shitty writers who don't communicate with each other.

If orisa is a centaur, what other cool ass omnics could exist? What if they had an octopus ninja that can climb on walls?
Why didn't the humans win the omnic war immediately with an emp? Why is there even an omnic war?

it's been years since I gave a shit about Overwatch, the reason for the war is probably some trite nonsense about rising against injustice as the omnics are an obvious metaphor for minorities

>EMP tards have shown up

Three reasons, they'd fuck their own infrastructure, high altitude nuclear detonations are the only reliable method of causing them(yeah let's just set off a bunch of nuclear weapons over our own heads), and even modern day military tech is hardened to resist the effects of one, so I imagine the future war robots made by a super intelligent self aware computer would likely be resistant as well.

and one "diversity consultant" who steps in every few months and makes a character gay

Make an expansion, or do fucking something rather than just let it stagnate.

The Figma series is good at least.

>calling people retards for arguing about the story of ow
Go away sissy

Lore is that no one knows what really caused it. Robotics factories run by AI with self optimizing code, just one day became self aware and decided humans needed to go, they then hijacked existing war machines that were largely or entirely automated to kick off the war, and started building new shit as well. That' why the Bastions had such a high kill count and in universe are so feared; because they were existing peace keeper units stationed everywhere that all of a sudden just turned and started gunning people down.

How about a smartphone with a laser rifle inside

this.

Merely pointing out that EMP isn't the be all end all I win button against anything with an electronic circuit in it.

this

At what point does it stop being a smartphone with a gun inside, and become a gun that can make phone calls? Probably once it hits rifle size.

LOL OVERWATCH BATTLE ROYAL LOL

Depends. Does she get Angry Birds on the thing?

Without 'new game syndrome' Overwatch really has nothing going for it.

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>no one saying mod support yet

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It's a lost cause. Devs had no idea what they even made. It's a great for having fun with friends, playing casual matches, and just in general killing time or fucking around, but Blizzard kept treating it like they had this deep and complex competitive experience. They pushed the fuck out of their ranked seasons and pushed the e-sports bullshit as if anyone actually cared.
This only made the casual matches even shittier because now you have tards and kids who wanna be pro and grandmasters and so they cry in every public match because your pick is non-meta or because you didn't specifically counterpick the enemy, and it's all horseshit. This problem was made worse by Blizzards retarded solution to the "toxicity" by turning the game into a kindergarten classroom further solidifying that this is a babby game for little bitches, yet it's still being pushed like some super serious competitive game for pros???
They should have embraced the TF2 comparisons and gone full silly. Just a bunch of different fun casual modes and not focused on the esports or competitive seen, but those fucking jews trying to go after those twitch views. Fools.

Modding is dead. What the fuck could anyone do that would matter?

Officially produced porn

Enhanced breast physics.

Bot only it will save ow, it will save Blizzard, too and probably even Activision

We had very different ideas of mod support. I was thinking shit like surf maps.

An actual good game

They first year? No, absolutely not. Those people are GONE and they're NEVER coming back. A patch could come with a free blowjob and they still wouldn't. Not because of anything in particular the game did wrong, but because a lot of the game's popularity came from being the next big thing which attracts a lot of flaky temporary fans. People who play it, engage in fandom online, maybe do a lazy swimsuit cosplay at ColossalCon, and get it out of their system before something else comes along. They're done with the Overwatch brand, they'll probably hurl if they have to hear "NERF THIS" one more time. The calm before the late 2017 PUBG/Fortnite storm is a more realistic goal. Is it possible? Perhaps, but it would be a whole lot of work for a game that's probably on the verge of entering maintenance mode in the minds of the people writing the paychecks.
>complete overhaul of core gameplay to put a far stronger emphasis on fast, technical play and individual skill
>rethinking abilities and ultimates
>new modes that aren't shit you fuck around with casually
>private servers
>mods
>custom mapmaking
>just do away with the old maps entirely on ranked Blizzard server rotations (unless people really wanna opt into playing on a classic map server or something), start from scratch with maps that weren't designed with the old Overwatch in mind
>dipping their toes into the water with weapon selection like TF2
>comprehensive minimap in spectate mode so OWL isn't so annoying to try watching
>do what fighting games do with refreshes; subtitle, new menus, new UI, new music, new announcer, etc. to really make it not feel like the same old Overwatch
Even then, it might be a lost cause. We're talking about completely gutting a game people just plain don't like anymore and hoping it spruces things up enough to bring them back. It's probably a waste of time when Blizzard is most likely working on a StarCraft BR or some shit.

I'm sure there is a happy medium that can satisfy everyone's desires.

Can anyone do that anymore?

Official nude skins.

I doubt it. Game is stale AF. If they doubled the heroes and introduced a draft mode like a moba it would at least help mix up the meta some.

Make it Free to Play
Add a Battle Royale mode
Zombies
Whatever works for the kids

Yeah it can be done, if people can turn Half Life into Counter Strike or Team Fortress, they can fix the issues of OW.

iirc 70k to 100k people were playing dota 2 auto-chess recently.

modding isnt dead its just that people lack creativity

more gay bi trans characters

>dynamic maps with real map hazards
Imagine a lava map with frequent geyzers and platforming where the payload is floating down a magma river with shifting rocks

I was gona type more shit but is basically it. I want an "Overwatch II" or Overwatch Ultra" patch or something huge

Wrecking Ball would have been a badass motherfucking droideka omnic if there wasn't a retarded hamster inside him.

I bought it at launch and still play it occasionally. The magic is gone, but I blame a lot of that on the recent Blizzcon and the complacency of Blizzard. I'm being let down a lot these days, so I'm kinda numb to it and just keep playing shit. I hate Battleroyal so there's pretty much nothing to play right now. It's OW and Dota 2 that are the only games that can hold my attention these days, a shitty hero shooter and a MOBA nobody cares about anymore.

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I don't think that era of modding exists anymore. Valve's not even making games to be modded.

I dunno, EMPs in OW can hack a mans regular human as legs enough that he can't sprint anymore.

Official big budget porn animations.

Then it would be a good time to bring it back, imagine all the good boy points they would get if they announced they would allow people to fix their piece of shit.

It's just not fun anymore. The League is full of 3 tanks and 3 healer teams which makes the game boring as fuck. Casuals are full of widow/hanzo/ashe teams which are also not fun to play against.

Honestly I'd play the game again if they introduced some sort of daily mission to do or goal. Like have x amount of damage and you get something for it. Something that would make me want to come back. I put so many hours that I pretty much have all the base game stuff so if there were daily missions or weekly missions maybe the game would be more compelling to play

nope
because shit-tier gameplay only can entertain people for so long

>a shitty hero shooter and a MOBA nobody cares about anymore.
there was a period of time I played Dota 2 nonstop for 12 hours straight every day I could (i.e. whenever I was off from work).
Now I only play a match or two a month. That game was a masterpiece during the high peak. I would have been happy playing 6.xx dota for the rest of my life. I hate nu-dota

All I can think of is shit like Diablo Median XL and private servers. I don't think the Blizzard community is creative enough to fix OW. I don't think OW can even really be fixed without changing the game entirely.

Doubt that would work with OW's installbase, just look at TF2 contracts, you have people going spy while defending just to complete them, imagine the reaction of OWfags when one of their team just enters the game to complete their daily objective.

fun fact
they already have prototypes for phones that are in your fingertip which you stick into your ear while the microphone is in your pinky

I've adapted to nu-dota and I feel about it the same way I feel about OW, indifferent. Nothing good lasts forever and if people can keep playing TF2 in this day and age then me playing this shit isn't that bizarre. I really tried to get back into TF2 but it just feels really dated. If vanilla TF2 was a thing I'd play that.

Game has weak depth and poor balance, exacerbated by poor maps.. I don't think you can fix this without a complete overhaul.

You would practically have to make an Overwatch 2.

surf maps across giant OW tits that have physics?

maybe with a sequel but Fornite pretty much killed everything. Apex Legends is currently the flavor of the month tho.

Apex Legends makes me feel guilty because I'm forced to play with a squad and I suck dick at these BR games. Also locking heroes sucks because I just want to play the grappling robot and everybody does too.

They could go back in time and no ban paying customers for using things that are in game.

But this is the future they chose.

Because it's a character taking a selfie, which is supposed to be a recognizable action. If her phone looked like some space magic shit copped from Destiny we wouldn't realize it's a phone and we wouldn't realize she's taking a selfie.
God you're dense.

actually make a good fucking game

Make an Overwatch 2.0 patch with a lot of marketing and buildup to it.

>Introduce story content in-game.

These would be weekly, hour long singleplayer experiences each centered on a specific hero. For example, let's saying 2.0's patch introduces a storyline about a Talon heist. Week 1 of the patch has you playing Widowmaker infiltrating the enemy base and getting into position to identify the target. Week 2 has you playing as Sombra and hacking the defenses while Widowmaker watches your back. Week 3 has Reaper showing up after something goes wrong. And so on until the storyline is finished. Keeping it weekly gives people a reason to keep playing.

>Introduce better communication.

The ping system from Apex Legends is a really fantastic way for you to communicate quickly and effectively with your team with absolutely no voice chat. It stands out to me that the devs at Respawn played for a month without VOIP to get the experience needed to craft such a system, I think the OW dev team needs to do the same, and run a bunch of simulations on how a player can effectively communicate without using VOIP, because the community in OW is absolute cancer.

>Ban roughly 40% of the game population
>Will it ever return to what it was

What do you think?

Apparently they tried a very similar ping system and trashed it because it got too cluttered and unhelpful with 6 teammates pinging stuff all the time instead of the 3 that apex has.

Release heroes more often
Being more active with balancing

Those two will never happen because they interfere with the Overwatch League

OW is run by retards.
>make ads portraying it as Pixar: The FPS
>attract normies
>start pushing e-sports on them
>normies run to Fortnite
Idiots. There's nothing which can save them.

>Map editor tools
>more dimosaurs
>Player run servers
>new game modes

Fuck the forced esport meme on this game.

Then it needs to be codified by role.

Tank pings result in "follow me over here"

DPS pings result in "enemy over there"

Healer pings result in "holy fuck help me you stupid fucks"

Dedicated PVE mode like the ones during halloween and the archival events

Just smurf during free days

release a theatrical Movie along with huge game update with new game modes.

I hope you find happiness one day user.

How does that relate to what I said? A smurf won't materialize the timed events out of thin air.

Blizzard learning from past mistakes when Valve stole their WC3 mod DOTA, and will release Overwatch Autochess before Valve can release their own.

>i quit playing
>it died
OW probably has more players now than ever before

Let people have a server browse and it'd probably make it better.
There's a 0% chance of that happening though, blizzard has been tight-lipped on any player creativity ever since they lost dota. Wasn't there some new meme game mode in dota as well?
The game wasn't atrocious at the beginning but there's barely been a year's worth of signifcant updates to the game, let alone 3.

>the state of retarded shitposters not realizing server browser is length available

>not realizing server browser is length available
did you have a stroke while writing this post?
in case you're referring to the shitty custom game thing, that is not a server browser in the slightest

>server browser is not server browser

>Robotics factories run by AI with self optimizing code, just one day became self aware and decided humans needed to go
Worse than I thought

it literally is not, it's a shitty quarter-assed fake version of a server browser. like i said blizzard is too paranoid about people actually having fun in a game to ever let people have an actual server browser in their games again

Just admit you are retard.

With all that they may as well make Overwatch 2.

>makes it TF2 with diversity cast
Nice

>The AI should broadcast their doomsday plan to Kill All Humans to the masses

You've seen too many movies. It's actually a lot better than I thought.

Official porn.

Blizzard release Overwatch Classic.

No Hero limit. No Competitive mode. Bastion has shield barrier.

>entire thread about OW being dead
>replies to me in particular

Did I say something that pissed you off? It is dead and gone, and I probably played it longer than most. Played it till the Junkrat map came out, whenever that was.

Yeah, its possible...
>stop shilling competitive gameplay, promote casual gameplay
>mass hero exodus, don't stop removing heroes until you have less than half of the current amount.
>to balance the hero exodus, allow individual heroes to use "loadouts" that change their playstyle
>stop niggering the physics engine and punishing skill based movements.
>remove ultimates.

this will save overwatch.

You want the real answer? Turn it into a porn game.

Basically allow mods.

i can't see many of the heroes working for single player.

Really though taking a hard stance on no loadouts was a big "shooting themselves in the foot" moment. With how many rework/kit changes that symmetra, torb, d.va, and mercy have gone through it's obvious they don't know the first thing about balancing an fps.

Wholesome anime by Kyoto Animation.

>>The AI should broadcast their doomsday plan to Kill All Humans to the masses
I never said that, sperg. The robots just randomly turning one day and remotely taking over everything is not interesting or dynamic or original.
>You've seen too many movies. It's actually a lot better than I thought.
I've seen Terminator, and this plot sounds like a lame rip of that, this time complete with mexicans and homosexuals.

have many big multiplayer games had massive reworks/resurgences past the initial release? I can only think of FF14.

Battle Royale could've suckered in some dumb kids but Respawn already beat them to it. F2P would be stupid, I don't want third worlders and stupid kids flooding in.

Didn't 11 have a somewhat comparable update?

TF2.

tf2 never had massive reworks or resurgences though, it (for quite a few years) had updates to the game to add new content
there was never a TF2 2.0 that was a massive rework or anything close to it

>a feasible backstory should be interesting or dynamic
As I said, you've seen too many movies, turbo-autist.

It's pretty much impossible. The people that jumped on for release hype have been and gone. Overwatch's whole marketing campaign was basically THIS IS GONNA BE THE BIG NEW THING. You can't replicate that.

At this point, you wait 4-5 years and bring out a sequel.

F2P and trading.

>make the game f2p
>get rid of ultimates, stuns, and resurrecting teammates
>allow people to pick multiple characters at once
>make all non-competitive modes 12v12 instead of 6v6
>allow modding
>allow you to pick which maps you want to go to, plus more maps to pick from
>add an actual villain as a playable character and not one that's cartoonishly evil
Basically, make the game more fun for casual players. The game is so obviously meant to be played by casuals but they simultaneously also want to push competitive by making every match play like competitive. TF2 has had the advantage over so many other come and gone team FPS games because it appeals to so many casual players who come home and want to relax with a nice round of 2fort. Meanwhile, in Overwatch, if you don't fill the last remaining role your team needs, you're pretty much throwing the match. It breeds a culture of people reporting you and accounts being banned just because you didn't pick the one character they wanted you to pick.

you have an incredibly low bar for what "a massive rework is" if you count trading, and f2p is a massive stretch as well since that was arguably when it was at its peak and they just made it free since it had essentially been free with the constant $2 sales for ages

an hour long S tier quality sfm porn

Make it so that you don't lose your fucking ult when switching.

Would actually give more purpose to the lower tier heroes and make the game more unpredictable and skillful.

Stop adding characters since you clearly cant balance even the original crew

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>The game was shilled here hard
>almost bought in because of the shills
>dodged the bullet
>mfw

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i played it in beta and i thought pharah and junkrat were really fun
they were, kind of, but it quickly became obvious the game would go nowhere
i don't know what i expected out of nublizzard

Probably the thing that sets Overwatch's story apart is the fact that there are omnics who are good and how that creates tension with humanity.

Though it doesn't really make sense because why would the evil AI robot factories make a whole bunch of humanoid robots who choose to be peaceful?

It's pretty much impossible. They haven't released any actual new content in, what, a year? Yeah, a new character every now and then but no real reason to actually go back and play. Where are the new maps, or new modes? Where's the mod support? Why do they have so many fucking characters to begin with when TF2 only needed 9? That game lasted years upon years. Where the FUCK is the single-player content when you were teasing a bunch of lore and story stuff? Every single trailer is cinematic and looks really nice. They make it seem like a fun adventure, possibly co-op but they don't do absolutely anything with the concept. They would need a massive rework, or barring that just release a sequel that fixes all its issues.

Barring all that, at least give Mei her swimsuit you fucking cowards. Everyone already left, you don't have to worry about tumblr bitches crying that she isn't a landwhale.

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nothing, overwatch 2 maybe, but even that for next gen, this gen overwatch is done

they fucked up and never capitalized fully and then came fortnite and the the battle royale genre

Total hard reset of ranked play. My entire group of friends played the game, and every one of them would come back if they did this. The ranking system is bullshit, if you placed high in the early seasons you have a very good chance of staying there even if your skill level isn't up too par because in high level play people really can carry. People have consistently proven the "you are where you belong" isn't correct by buying new copies and placing higher on new accounts than they ever achieved. The whole E-sports system is bullshit, designed too prop-up the early high-tier placers.

Soda cans have computers in them in overwatch, a phone should be a bit more advanced.

I think it's at a consistent high at this point, it cant do any better from this point on.

so many people have left the game tumblr is actually a significant amount of the playerbase now
ranked play wouldn't do a goddamn thing for the game, it's half the reason the game is so shit anyway

The MAIN reason blizz hasn't done this is because the money stream from people buying new copies just too try and place higher. People parrot, the "It would be horrible, it would be chaos" response on the forums because they are Blizz drones and don't want too comprehend Blizzard would do something almost purely for greed. Which having NO ranked resets is about, propping up the less-skilled high tier streamers and keeping scrubs buying new copies.

the MOBA-shooter is a fundamentally flawed premise.

overwatch was only overwhelmingly popular at launch because of the porn that blizzard directly funded.

>is because the money stream from people buying new copies just too try and place higher
does a significant amount of money actually come from people buying entirely new accounts just to try and get a higher rank?
are so they so incredibly deluded by their own lack of skill they think they can do better on a clean slate?

they would be dumb not to try it. They can just copy Apex's handling of abilities.

How about actually progressing the story? It's been like four years and nothing new has happened. The good guys have barely fought the villains.

I can't say the exact amount but it does exist, that alone is incentive whether it's "significant" or not. Something that costs a business nothing and brings in additional revenue is always favored. You can find many examples of people who prove they are stuck lower than they deserve, having bought new accounts and placing and even climbing higher than ever.

*announces a random character is gay to generate media and press coverage

t. never played a game with a community server browser

>You can find many examples of people who prove they are stuck lower than they deserve, having bought new accounts and placing and even climbing higher than ever.
right, right, it's the game's fault, not theirs
not like tons of people deranked to shitter league and then back to top 500
god you've got me defending a competitive mode in a fucking blizzard game of all things

Shit, everything turns out the opposite as I would hope.

Have they ever actually fought? Has the Overwatch "team" actually come together even once? What the hell was the deal with Doomfist and his escape?

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Top 500 shouldn't be used too represent the player base of effectiveness of the ranking system. That is the top 0.1% of the playerbase.

change casual mode to 9v9

this would actually help

official porn

there is no story to overwatch. there's just 'lore' and backstory.