Why doesn't anyone care about good spritework anymore?

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I care but they take too much work hence are too expensive in nowadays market environment. That obviously doesn't apply to pixelshit greenlight garbage which is low-effort.

And? A sprite animation has like 6 to 12 frames maybe, an animated model has as many as you can render.

Brain problems for sure.

Imagine her going down and up like that on your dick while you hold her from behind.

well yeah no one cares about good sprite work anymore

How much glue do I have to huff to be this retarded?

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3D models aren't typically anywhere as detailed, plus you can use various "base" models and simply adjust and add to them depending on the character. Then you rig the model to perform animations and adjust those so they don't look awful. I mean clipping still exists in 3D games in 2019.
3D games can look good, definitely, and not all 2D games look good. But good 2D is harder to make than good 3D.

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in those times i wish to git gud at drawing
But i'm competelly incompetent and it would look like shit
It wouldn't even make sense in current year to do pixelshit since the fad is long gone

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smooth

Sprites emerged from limitations that no longer exist. To be a good sprite artist you need to be good at 2D drawing already, and then specialize into figuring out how to make stuff look good with little squares. This is all for a niche appeal towards a group smaller than the one that’s happy with normal 2D art. There just isn’t an incentive for it beyond some guy wanting to draw with pixels.

Well user? If you like sprites so much why aren’t you picking up the slack and learning to draw yourself?

Then you have companies like SNK and Arc System that used 3D models for reference/tracing to keep things uniform in their 2D games (KoF XII/XIII and BlazBlue). Then Arc System went on to go full insanity with GG using 3D to mimic 2D.

What are the most impressive sprite-centric games made in like the last five years? I remember that Owlboy looked nice but I never got around to playing it.

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The trick is to rig a 3D model and then just trace over it, preferaby with an automated program that just does the base. Then add little details on top of that.

This style is so cringe

So a lot of glue. Got it.

it's old

?
There are good styles that are also old

Why is it 'cringe'?

no artistic talent
and I'm going uni to become a code monkey
I won't ever do a game for a company thay 99% will enslave me, maybe I'll do someone for fun with some milimalistic graphics

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This post is so devoid of thought

any suggestion to start?
I'd love to learn drawing

The style itself screams "trying too hard" as a result of being overdetailed for no additional value. By trying to not look amateurish it just looks uncanny. This is most easily summarized as cringe because that's how you feel when you see such an embarrassing waste of effort. The actual animation of eating a sandwich with an exaggerated inflated face is some Gaia online shit on top of that.

Pretty sure the only games with high quality pixel art from the last five years besides owl boy are all porn games.

Fuck this guy.

>trying too hard
is it a bad thing?
Metal Slug is pixel art at his finest for "trying too hard"

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Imagine her being skinned alive by a machine

stardew valley but it's not as good

Yes it is
The only people who praise it are 4channel contrarians looking to fit in with other contrarians. Maybe if it had a style that wasn't complete ass it could be appreciated.

One is handmade, the other can be rendered for a fraction of the investment

This is why artists hate you

Because it's fucking expensive, more than 3d models.

Good shit user. You really had me for a minute there.

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Do you even know how animation works you fucking retard?

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It's extremely exaggerated all around, even with the character portraits. My guess was to stand out in the arcade and just flex the hardware.

>The only people who praise it are 4channel contrarians

you got it backwards there bud

effectgames.com/demos/worlds/
Damn I love looking at these every so often

does rpg maker count?
that's kind of the point of a cartoony artstyle to exaggerate expressions, bro

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Pretty sure this is just a hand drawing or render that's been made into a sprite, like Bladerunner, Donkey Kong Country, or Phoenix Wright's backgrounds, rather than actual sprite art

I am but I'm really shit
I wish I had learned when I was younger, so much wasted time

>have to redraw a sprite every time you want to add something new
>actually takes talent

vs

>mocapping a 3d model

Yeah, i'm going to need at least 5 Olympic pools of glue to be your levels of retard.

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I’m still pretty shit myself but udemy has some good courses for beginners. Just make sure to check a fair number of reviews first. And don’t buy unless they have a sale where the hundreds dollar classes are like ten bucks (they have these sales like 50% of the time).

There’s probably good free courses on youtube but putting down ten dollars was supposed to help me with the commitment of sticking to it. Kinda worked, stuck with it a while and want to go back but things have been hectic and I’ve been busy.

Time for me to get off Yea Forums.

play rain world

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>Touhou of all things gets beautifully animated and drawn sprites for a fighting game from a small indie team
>Capcom keeps using those absolutely disgusting and grotesque 3d models
literally fucking why, there's no excuse for this, either learn how to make good 3d models or go back to the old roots

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Came out two years ago
youtu.be/I1j_jzd1g1E

Merely looking at the floating movement is annoying

true, soku was so much better

Idiot here, how does animation work like in cartoons and anime? I know there are key frames but do you have to redraw each frame to go inbetween frames?

Yes.

You should watch Shirobako.

if it's hand-drawn animation: yes. Nowadays most 2D cartoons are just tweened garbage though.

2D and 3D Puppets auto-tween
Traditional animation demands that the in-between frames be drawn by hand, usually that job's handed off to the interns

>majority of "sprite work" isn't even sprite work anymore but low resolution drawing
>anything that isn't is just meme pixel

>come on
>COME ON
>COME ON SHOW ME THE CUNNY GOD DAMN IT

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The technique you're talking about was more common in the 90s than it is now. Pixel art is a niche style that is very heavily scrutinized among its own community.

3 looked good and it was 3D.

Shocking how sometimes 1 bad game is all it takes.

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because 3d has become mainstream
ill take good pixelart over 3d any day

based retard pedophile

I know I shouldn't be but the fact that there are people out there who unironically hold this opinion makes me angry.

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>I won't ever do a game for a company thay 99% will enslave me, maybe I'll do someone for fun with some milimalistic graphics

You are autistic and delusional

Post more Metal Slug to make the turbohomo angry

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L o o m i s.

>and on the other other side of the coin was skullgirls using 2D sprites on 3D models so it can have dynamic lighting

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>and on the other other side of the coin was skullgirls using 2D sprites on 3D models so it can have dynamic lighting
What?

>Tfw you will never play Metal slug for the first time again

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Nah I’m dumb and was forgetting what I’d read. They have the sprites and then a 3D layer on top for shading, so that it can change with stage lights, hit sparks, etc.

Jokes on you I have alzhemfa9sg0ash stop posting about my tomato

>sprite porn

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From what you said I thought the sprites were textures on a 3D model.

Jesus fuck I'm so tired of you faggots shitting on AoCF. It's actually an interesting twist to the normal grounded combat in normal fighters.

Honestly, the last time I played it was in middle school, on a buddy's playstation some nearly 20 years ago. A cuple years back got the SNK collection on Steam, and it indeed felt like the first time, just a bit more familiar.

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Don't worry about it, it's just the same faggots that want every fighting game to be street fighter

Not them but it genuinely feels like shit to be rubber-banded back to the center plane and if they wanted to make a game that put emphasis on the fact that all of the characters fly they should've gone for something like Psychic Force 2012 rather than what they did, that's my genuine opinion

I can't get used to non-GBA Fire Emblem. These sprite animations are way too fucking good.

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Because shit like this gets praised as good.

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Rain world ain't pixel shit it's voxels and polygons.

Nobody ever plaised celeste's spritework besides being passable

Mugen modded is one of the best games for it.

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What I mean is that developers realized they don't need to create beautiful and vivid sprites if a mediocre videogame can get away with 1 million copies sold.

My fucking brother.
All these years and it still the best shit.
still remember the first time i found it existed.

Shame that the japs don't have a proper repository and many of them never implement the sprites they create or keep them for themselves or behind passwords.

dumb fatty

yeah, especially on updates to hentai characters.

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...

I hate idiots that think they are masters at shit they never did themselves.

It's like knowing how to cook just because you eat good tasting food. Or know how to write Harry Potter just because you like to read books.

Looks really ugly, ugly muscular legs

Pixel art's fad just passed
Arcsys was the only one keeping it alive but decided to go 3d
Not complaining because Xrd looks awesome

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>"trying too hard"
And there it is OP, why animation is dying. Skill is "trying too hard", just because the character doesn't look immediately fappable or some brainlet shit.

Hi Arin, please neck yourself anytime soon k thx.

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Stop replying and never reply to me again you fucking retard

I honestly would bang fio

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>McDonald's analogy

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Something I did a few months ago.
Art is hard

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zoomers hate good spritework for some odd reason

ONLY DUBS CAN DEFEAT MEKANIGGA

neat, shame about the eyes though.

Actually not bad, man
Would work a tad on the lighting, maybe byaking it a tad softer but overall it's not bad

desu Soku is the Melee of Touhou fighters

Why have game budgets risen like crazy since the 90s then? Graphics peaked yet games didn't cost 10s of millions to make.

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Ew, how can you even say that?
Just look at that nasty toned midriff, repulsive supple breasts and those awful luscious thighs.

I bet you want to lick those ugly lean collarbones and ruffle her greasy soft hair you creep

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Got any more?

Love me some sprite monsters

sb

>''upgrade''
looks disgusting

quite literally soul and soulless

This is exactly why. Because the masses can't appreciate. Now dump some SNK spritework because I need more.

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the hat looks dumb

3D was a mistake
indie pixelshit is an even worse mistake

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Why do these two always get paired together?

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>Koishi's thighs
I want

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Autism

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They're both autistic automatons without any personality, and that somehow makes them extremely popular in the fanbase.

Your mom giving birth to you was an embarassing waste of effort

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youtube.com/watch?v=48LzZRrl5p8

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Kokoro is pretty funny in ULiL and AoCF

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Most underrated KoF.
When are we getting a Steam/PS4 release with decent online?

fuckin rad user

makin a game in pic related's style, wheres this lie between pixel art and pretentious indie shit?

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'Tism aside, Koishi kept (and presumably still has) Kokoro's mask of hope and was the catalyst for Kokoro's character development.

There's absolutely no shortcut to simply being a good artist and drawing tons of frames.

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Firmly in the realm of "pretentious indie shit"

it's dogshit
trash it

I think is quite possible for an AI to learn how to draw and animate pixel art.

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I hate the idea of an acrobatic character like Mario having such a loose-fitting hat. That shit annoyed the fuck out of me in SMW.

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Looks good, pixel shit is basically line thin legs and arms, I never saw a pretentious pixel art to be honest.

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I want to rub her legs and thighs

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I also think it's possible for my dick to spontaneously grow hands and start drawing pixelated hentai at 300mph but I don't think it's likely.

>No image results found

WHAT IS THIS GAME

Get in line

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god

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Never found the author of that image.

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it hurdts

That's pretty neat, I'd only modify the eyes to make them look less like flashlights. Also reminds me I haven't done any pixel stuff in too long.

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We already have that waifu generator, all we need is someone autistc enough to work on it.

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90% of the posts here are from people that know shit about game development, especially indie game development.

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Whos the artist on these?

pixeljoint.com/pixelart/122293.htm?sec=showcase

Got this off yandex, quick glance makes it look authentic.

I refuse to believe you have this much fucking shit taste.
Jesus christ, unironically kill yourself and fuck off back to plebbit.

99% of Yea Forums knows nothing about game development so that really shouldn't surprise you

90% of all Yea Forums have no talents or skills.

more like 99% of posts here are from people that dont play videogames and know fuck all about them.

Migel futoshi is the name that comes up on danbooru, the first two were sprites from the Aeriel fighters but given the accuracy of the other gods it's probably the same artist

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Some of his art reminds me of a time travel dungeon crawler with gore death scenes.

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>mugenero went MIA and never released their characters
could always remake the sprites based on his videos
i remade nazuna inuwaka and hayata sprites

Pretty sure it's the same sprite artist for HM.

Choose your projection.

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It is.
They only changed the portrait artist.

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Every image posted in this thread is better than Metal Slug

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gemini rue was one i think?

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Holy fucking comfy, game?

playing cross code right now and the sprite work is pretty good

Probably some PC-98 game.

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Rotoscoping can be used to great effect

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Define impressive.

Miwasiba’s art is so good, I’ve lost track of how many times I’ve gone through 1bitheart and still never gone through Misato’s house and LiEat. I hope they keep at it after the project they posted about early to mid last year since they were supposedly going to call it quits on games to focus on illustrations after 1beatheart.

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Man there was nothing quite like classic SNK

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It literally says the name in both images.

Shovel knight deserves praise for being one of the best representations of retro pixel art to date, especially when considering it's megaman influences.

All the characters are legible and easy to read
Areas all have a very strong colour palate per stage e.g the kings castle is predominantly yellow with red highlights
Movement is smooth in motion but the animation is slightly choppy

>"outdated graphical approach"
If I heard someone unironically say this to me in person, I would sock them right in the fucking face and gouge their eyes out

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I once had a friend's zoomer kid brother say this.
Honestly, was more speechless than angry

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HAHAHAHAHA WHAT

I always really liked how SNK did clothes. Just the way the edges and cuffs move slightly.

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Soku is garbage. Play IaMP.

Gives me Oddworld vibes

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someone post chika's dance

cringe
sparkles too bright
fingers too big
lighter too dark
watermark too apparent
empty space too big

>tfw all those masterful artists were fired and put on the street once 3D became the new norm

It's not fair bros, we lost a lot of great men and a lot of animation techniques

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It's a real sorry state of affairs

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good shit

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A lot of it is what they chose to draw.

Warping the battlefield to brilliant blue nebula where you're flying over a rolling, shattering asteroid with gem-like fragments getting pulled into the center star system is an INSANE idea.

Drawing it just made it easier to render. Making all of that 3D would have been very tough to nail properly.

Most modern Western cartoons are made in Flash and use tweened animation where a computer generates inbetweens. Japanese anime and higher quality western animation uses outsourced animation studios solely focused on generating inbetweens usually Korean or Chinese. The really good animations are all done in studio and are enormously expensive and take a long time to produce.

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Miguel Futoshi, the guy that made the floaty Touhou fighters' sprites.

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You wouldn't a Futo

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stop

>footfags

Good animation but completely unnecessary subject matter

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I would without hesitation.
Just realized her cute tummy is present, quite odd it took this long for me to notice it.

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Really?

He's a cobbler.
He makes shoes

There is not a Touhou I wouldn't.

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It's the only webm I had that was 100% hand drawn. Sorry my dude

Antibirth was pretty good.

> watermark too apparent
It's a signature you dope! Do you even know what a watermark is?

No, but I would help her cut her hair.

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> Lady takes out her foot
> Dude measures and documents it
Is this a parody?

He's designing custom shoes for her

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>Why doesn't anyone care about good spritework anymore?
I care about it in my porn, at least.

The sheer mention of her name still makes me pissed just because of those blatant futofags in Yea Forums's 2014 soku/touhou threads.

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Now post the one where he walks up and fucking decks a dude

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You can do tweening, but that would mean looking like robotized crap.

Good 2D animation. general rule, is done frame-per-frame.

Must be bait, this can't be real.

Dude's a shoemaker he's measuring her feet to make her shoes. it is a foot fetish movie though and the director even said so

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God I wish I can produce work on this level someday

I would very much.

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Reminder that taoists are a group of out to touch tards led by an coward tranny whose plan would just end with the humans being whipped out.

Reminder to not fall for Taoist lies.

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This. Good spritework is so hot.

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?

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I use to love these

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>never ever

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I agree, hopefully the standard of the rest of the game will be brought up in repentance

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Mouse sprite.

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Mouse in 4K

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If someone had the mind to take procedural generated frames, then edit, correct, and enhance them with their own drawings, the combination would be great.
In other news, Digital only releases means we can get games quickly after developers finish their work. As well, Downloadable Content being mainstream means we can get expansion packs easier!

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Underrated

Fuck this looks so charming.

That was great, thanks for the doujin.

>Food analogy
Oh fuck, Yea Forums is writing these. No wonder it's retarded.

Kinda hard to get food off your mind when talking about DC.

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because it basically just a ground game with 2 directions to jump, up and down
it's not really trying to go with flight except visually

Fuck off Flonch, this is man's country

God their games make food sexy and yet comfy as all hell. I would love to be able to spend a night camping with people and everyone's cooking up all sorts of good shit.

Same

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As opposed to a youkai nest led by a (((monk))) that tampers in black magic?

why do the enoki mushrooms look nothing like enoki mushrooms?

Maybe it's their version of enoki

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SO HERE I AM

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I require sprite Komachis

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Working on dimetric game atm. Will shill it later here when it's near done.

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Futo is a child you sick fucks

Futo is a beautiful child of fertile age. I want to plant my child inside a fertile child like Futo!

Futo is a granny but the only one who should be doing such intimate things with her is the Crown Prince.

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>a child
*a shit

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Technically, Futo is Tojiko's mom.

youtube.com/watch?v=enRp4h3nQs0

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You are the very first person I've ever heard hate the Metal Slug spritework.

Leave.

>Futo bullying
Made me kek/10.

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I'm not sure, sprites are amazing and often better than cg models.
I still think Fire Emblem for example, looked best in sprites.

Upgrade would unironically be better if the hat flapping wasn't so shitty.
Is that a hat or a mouse slapping Mario with its tail?

If you want sprites but still want the speed of 3d models, there's always the DKC-style approach of making 3d models and then turning each frame into a sprite. Doom did this with digitized real world models as well. This makes for quality sprites but a large variety of animations can more quickly be produced.

If I recall, KOF/Street Fighter (and plenty of other games) used the technique of basically 2d animating via real drawings the characters, then producing the pixel art over those drawings.

>, there's always the DKC-style approach of making 3d models and then turning each frame into a sprite.

You could have said Arcys you know.

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>A sprite animation has like 6 to 12 frames maybe
Darkstalkers had about 500 frames per character, and that was in 1994.

>giving arcsoy recognition.

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Most developers opt for live2d these days.

>MUhtendo

post sprite jiggle physics

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youre moms a voxel

absolutely fantastic work

>good spritework anymore?
Your animu country is so fucking hectic and lazy at the same time, in order to pump out 5 anime episode per week they have to switch all to digital or fully computer assisted art. Worse of all they gave all the jobs to Not-so-best Korea and mother China.

>food analogy
And that’s how you know right away its a worthless review