I sure wish CliffyB would make another videogame

>get btfo
>"a-atleast I don't have to w-work unlike you.."
Does he not realize that the entire comment was intended to say nobody wants him to "work" anymore?

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>Check his bio
>It is him doing this about people saying he is a cuck
It does get to him guys.

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>another cliffyb thread
4free

>hurr I don't gots to work nomore
That applied well before the whole LawBreakers/Radical Heights debacles, you stupid shit.

You're not working anymore because you have no idea what you're doing, not because you don't want to.

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I wish Cliffy B would walk into a ghetto walmart wearing that

>someone criticizes his work
>replies with ad hominem
What a stunning adult role model.

Are people not giving Cliffy shit for his objectifying t shirt?

Damn, Pat bringing the bants. He's based again after turning cringe because of that tranny shit
Cliffy going full fuck you goyim tho

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>internet: make another videogame!
This never happened Cliffy you stupid FUCK

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"Well, at least one of us shouldn't work another day in their life, huh, Cliffy?"

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Huh, pretty sneaky way to get a Pat thread onto Yea Forums
E-celebs are alright by janny when they're devs ("devs"), cunning

>Calling what Pat does on a daily basis, "work"

Pick one of these, anons
- Never have to work, but always have the weight of the sins on your shoulders of all the fuckers you destroyed the life of, out of the blue, taking all the money for yourself
- Make a very healthy wage doing what you love, with a wife who's your best friend. The internet loves you for being a weird little relatable gremlin.

Who is this and why should anyone care?

>pat
Did something happen on this weeks podcast that made him want to go to war with cliffyb?

Didn't this fucker steal all the severance pay from his layed off employees from Lawbreakers? And now he's admitting he never has to work cause he haz all teh monehs? Can we somehow get this fucker arrested?

>got rich because Facebook again overpays for something that they thought it would be the next facebook

>but always have the weight of the sins on your shoulders of all the fuckers you destroyed the life of
Humans don't actually have that or we'd give a fuck about the sweatshops making our gadgets

He did pay them severance, it was just less than what he stated in some twitter shitpost.

All that money he's bragging about are leftovers from his days at Epic.

I want him to make another billion dollar IP

shut up poorfag

Fair, but there's enough degrees of separation to let me sleep at night.

>Pat's "job" is playing video games
Imagine being Cliffy

Isn't his too? A neet's job is just whatever they want to do

Bantmaster Pat at it again

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Yes it did.
Guy: you don't remember how to make good games Cliffy, so no one's clamoring for another Radical Heights or Lawbreakers.
Cliffy: I'm rich so your words don't hurt me doo-doo head!
Cliff's probably seething because soon everyone will forget who he is or what he did.

>sweet summer child

yikes, you can feel the butthurt from that screenshot. i have no idea idea who that fag is other than, a fag.

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Big OOF

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>bragging about not having to work anymore after (because) you fucked over your employees
>in this climate
If the unionists had any sense they'd jump on this

>Cliff actually made an alt to shit on Pat
Amazin

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cringe

kek who wrote this?
I'm sure random capitalization is proof of some kind of mental illness
Along with liking Matt

Is this what a mid-life crisis looks like there?

Based little canadian man

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Probably LIam.

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>Perfectly translatable Finnish

Where the hell did you find this top grade wahjah? I'm actually impressed.

bipolar freaks making shit up/being deluded isn't anything new. it's just that people cave in and give them attention now a days so there's more out there doing this.

>Caught a blowup so hard he can only say M-MUH MONEY

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Pat is such a shifty little goblin.

"criticism"
Why do trolls always act like being an asshole is legitimate criticism? Cliffy didn't ask for his opinion

And nobody has ever asked Cliff to come back to game development, but that didn't stop him.

He did by claiming people were saying something they weren't

>Unironic Clifford the Big Check Hog dicksuckers in this thread

Calm down, Matt.

Has Cliffy Bazinga ever made anything good aside from the first Gears of War?

fuck off Cliffy

Jesus, calm down Liam, learn to handle bantz

Jazz Jackrabbit I guess?

Damn, Liam finally went nuclear

Jazz Jackrabbit

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He isn't a programmer, he isn't a graphics artist, he knows fuck all about unreal engine.

What exactly does he do?

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Invest into Facebook and pretend all his objective failures in video games are why he has money

Cliffy gettin recked

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CliffyB won't give you money for whitekinighting him ya know

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He made some good Unreal levels

But what if I can't get a job?

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pretty sure he was at least related to one of the ebst shooters ever (UT2k4)

zoneoftheenders.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=1041

When you go out in a public forum and voice anything, especially something silly or outrageous, you are asking for criticism

CliffyB is a real human. A human with a personality, dreams, wishes, ambitions, emotions, love, hate, etc. You people keep dehumanizing him because some e-celeb took a potshot. How about you get some perspective? Imagine if tons of people started leaving insulting comments towards you just because some e-celeb who no one has ever heard of said something mean on twitter?

i'd rather be working than be going through whatever LGBTQP crisis he seems to be going through in that pic

fuck off kike

He is the guy that says there should be transgender toilets on the level.

That perfectly sums up why his career ended.

So.. is he gay?

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this guy needs Jesuschrist

I can imagine that and it makes me sad. What makes me more sad however is the imagining asshole who fucked me over to get rich bragging about how rich he is on twitter and pretending he's a good person.

He's also a real human being who fired his employees over twitter, lied about how much severance they got and has been spending the months since preening for attention because he's upset he's no longer relevant. I think he can handle a little criticism.

>It's technically a non-language, "based" on Finnish.

It's still gibberish.

>a real human
HA!

He's a real human that threw his employees under the bus and fucked them over and now brags about how much money he has. He's going through a crisis, trying to convince himself that he deserves the money he made when he absolutely doesn't.

Cliffy is a real human who really took severance pay from his employees while gladly knowing he still had millions from Epic and leaving said employees in potential squalor or bankruptcy at the same time (Plus a fucking awful resume that'll make getting a job even more difficult for them because no one will want employees associated with absolute failures like Lawbreakers or Radical Heights), and had the actually sociopathic gall to get angry when Epic dared offer them theoretically equal or better employment before Boss Key inevitably went under. He deserves all the bullying he gets.

Go away, Cliffy.

>No one wants you to make videogames, Cliffy
>At least I don't have to make videogames anymore, poorfag!

Oh, Cliffy.

>because some e-celeb took a potshot

Is this your first day here? Cliffy shitposting has been going on for decades now.

Cliff was basically praising himself for being well off and shit and Pat called him out for firing most of his employees without notice with a tweet

>Thinking Pat works

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Is Cliffy an autist?

why is cliffy being so passive aggressive lmfao

He's no human. Look at this pic He's a pathetic fad trailing NPC

>act like being an asshole is legitimate criticism
because it is
the tone you use doesn't change the "legitimacy" of criticism, whatever that is

Hey, sometimes he has to leave his house and go to Woolie's apartment.
That's excruciating.

are his employees who didn't get their severance pay real humans too or do they not matter because people aren't mean to them on the internet?

why doesn't he just take his millions to korea and rent out a sick penthouse with a hot tub and fuck a few kpop starlets? wtf is his problem.

get the fuck off twitter and use your stolen millions for good

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He poses as gay to appear hip. Because, you know, that's the hotest shit right now

>my sweet summer child
I don't think cliff is using that phrase correctly, really makes no sense here

I love how people are trying to whiteknight for cliffy. And then, when anyone calls pat a piece of shit, his "whiteknights" are like "mate, you don't know the half of it, sit down"

>when you tell the world that your passion in life is shitposting on twitter and not videogames

I mean, we knew it before, but now he just out and said it.

youtube.com/watch?v=M2XYf4zI-I4

It's just a passive aggressive way of calling Pat an idiot

Cliff had to post that he got invited to a former employees wedding to show that mean gremlin that people still like him.

Never got Yea Forumss hateboner for Cliffy. He might not have made anything great in a while but he always seemed like a decent dude and from the few times Mega64 has brought him up in conversation is apparently a pretty genuine guy.

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Are you in the same boat as me, stuck in bumfuck nowheresville where the only available jobs are the lowest of the low retail and factory work?

>right ear piercing
Uh, Cliffy...

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CliffyB deserves it all. Just look at that pic, it is a fucking grown ass man with double your age pretending to be gay because of some teenager fad, after making 2 gigaflop games based entirely on trends and completely souless, and getting a lot of people fired over his lack of foresight and creativity.

Cliffy is not human, he pretends to be. Look at how hard he tries to copy fads, both in games as in his own life and style, completely unable of once in his life having an independent tought. Cliffy is unironically an NPC, tomorrow he will appear with tapes in his eyes pretending to be a member of a Kpop boyband dancer, and you, in your stupid attempt of trying to sell yourself as a "good person" on the internet you probably suck IRL, like everyone who does that shit. Good people don't need to prove they are good constantly will defend his failed attempt of pretending to be human as a genuine show of personality, when it is once again obvious he is just following a fad.

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He's an egotistical twat, who compulsively lies to flatter his ego, what more reason do you need?

didnt know cliff was so based and redpilled

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from to dudebro to... whatever that is. kek

I can't believe Cliff chose this hill to die on.

He hasn't got the testosterone to go full aggressive.

Finally. A modicum of effort put into bait that isn't some child regurgitating words like cringe and incel. Good on you, user.

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Fuck off Cliffy.

Yes but it has a very specific meaning, its a very recent phrase people know the context of so you cant just throw it around like its an empty expression

lmfao could you imagine actually posting that picture and caption? imagine being the bride and groom and that's what comes out of your wedding. cliffy is a fucking retard, the bride and groom are retards for inviting him, and i'm a retard for caring about people that i'll never meet. have some delicious ai.

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Man fuck that shit the 15 year old that makes your burger at McDonalds and gets blown up on by people because you can't order a big mac at 8am is a real human being. Cliffy is an a huge asshole with too much money and a huge ego. Even before all this nonsense with radical heights he's been a huge asshole acting like he's better than someone. If some trans people and some cute girls would roast his ass I bet he'd sit the fuck down

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and now pats mild tism takes over and instead of leaving on a high note he'll be tweeting about this for the next 5 hours

Yeah. We're talking about a guy who unapologetically talks about how he intentionally litters all the time because his birthday is Earth Day and he was tired of hearing about that shit on his birthday.
I can kind of sympathize since my birthday is September 11th.

Are those light-up shoes? What is he, fucking five years old?
The rest of his attire doesn't help either jesus christ. What does it have to do with videogames? What does this thread have to do with videogames?

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the rich aren't human

what is rich in present day present time?

The salt is palpable.

Oh look at the time, time to go to sleep little Cliff.
No one can take your dreams away.

Everything if you knew who that slime ball is. You do know, right? I hope you're being facetious and not a total newfag who doesn't lurk.

Debate time:
Who is the fundamentally worse human being?
Randy Bobandy "The stranger with candy" Pitchford:
>Allegedly kept child porn on a flash drive
>Embezzled millions according to a former friend who's counter-suing him
>Let said former friend have access to the direct funds of Gearbox for basically no reason
>Open secret that he embezzled handouts from Sega for Colonial Marines to go to Borderlands 2 development instead
>This embezzlement plus general mistreatment by Gearbox resulted in Colonial Marines being an outright failure on release and caused Timegate (Who had produced actually good titles in the past such as F.E.A.R. with a similar developer composition, meaning developer error was on GB and not them) to go bankrupt and pretty much damn their portfolios with that game, making employment difficult
>Likely fucked up the resumes of the few competent people of Gearbox with Battleborn
>Made a porn subreddit for Battleborn
>Called anyone who hates his games a bigot

Cliffy "If she's at least 13, she's good enough for me!" B
>Bragged about being sexually attracted to 14 year old girls on SomethingAwful
>Took credit for the development of several titles when he was at most a level designer for them (Such as the UT games)
>Dropped from two different dev studios while earning royalties for games he took credit for
>Fucked up the resumes of his employees twice over with both Lawbreakers and Radical Heights
>Called anyone who hates his games a bigot
>After two bombs in a row, closed down Bosskey Studios via TWEET without telling any of his employees in advance, meaning they learned about it via Twitter
>Lied about the severance he was paying his employees, while knowingly still being a millionaire thanks to royalties
>Trying to write an autobiography about his "journey" with 11th grade-level writing and it mostly just being a prolonged masturbation session in the form of text

Honestly, I think Cliffy outdoes Bobandy by just a hair.

obviously, you can't eat the rich without some seasoning

It's for people who want to look passive agressive and intelligent when they're actually seething and have no real answer to criticism or dissent

your post makes randy sound kind of based

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I like randy more than cliffy, randy is a proper sleazy businessman, to the point of almost being a caricature, cliffy is just a self centered dick.

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Cliffy B helped work on and lead design on two very successful game franchises. People who have made games are on topic.

He can be rich all he wants he's still a piece of shit being rich doesn't suddenly make you right and good

>uprising soon
>when, proletariat?
>NOW!

HAHA, anyone remember stalker memes?

>people want me
>>nobody wants you
>I'm financially secure though :C)
What's the relevance? This is actual man baby mode. I have more money than I'll ever spend and I still work because it benefits society and I'm not a selfish, hedonistic prick.
Like what a terrible attitude to have, as if it's a good thing to admit you're lazy, useless, and unwanted.
>at least I have my money
Said the lonely washed up dude in light up sneakers and rainbow bands obviously having some kind of crisis and desperately reaching out to the entire internet for even an inkling of attention.

This terrible attitude is infectious. Him acting this way makes me want to stop contributing myself.

>musician
>programmer
>animator
and of course
>ideas guy

>Cliffy B's twitter ever since this blew up

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Why not? Its ultra condescending to the extent that its actually funny

>All rich people are shit
>This rich guy is shit
You see how these things differ?

>sweet summer child

Fake

Pat literally guzzes down Redbulls by the fucking crateload, I feel kinda bad for the guy's health.

>it's a 'rich people shit on poorfags with an opinion' episode.

THEY TARGETED WORKERS
WORKERS

name a single rich person who is also a good person

Bill Gates

Brazilian here, nothing wrong with 14yo girls, that is the age of consent in here. If anything, that only makes CliffyB based and redpilled, mentally freed from american imperialistic culture.

Still, Cliffy is worse, because at least Randy is somewhat of an "OKish" businessman if you ignore the part where he got scammed. Cliffy is just lucky.

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me

it's ok they're sugar free

Weird how with all that money he still seems as insecure and unsatisfied as before it.
Money doesnt change losers.

Yes he did, if he didnt want peoples opinion he wouldnt be on a fucking social platform

Baron Trump

Oh Cliff when will you learn?

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I have to go with Randy. He's had a much worse impact on the industry itself.
He crippled Sega for a good couple years, when right beforehand they were funding interesting shit like Alpha Protocol. They were going to fund a fucking Aliens RPG by Obsidian, for Christ's sake.
His ownership of the Duke Nukem IP is also an absolute disgrace. Nothing good can possibly come of that.

Based, love how he triggers starving third world scum and faggy anons both

God, Pat is such a fucking retarded ginger faggot.
Literally attacking people for free on twitter.

>destroyed Silicon Knights, Denis Dyack and the Eternal Darkness with a single tweet
>now targeting CliffyB
SOMEBODY STOP HIM

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>Windows 10 has spyware so Bill Gates can make more money selling your data to advertisers
try again

lefty faggot detected
Bill Gates is a demon.

stay mad

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How do fathers typically respond to finding out their 14 year old is getting banged by a 30+ monkey? I'm genuinely curious.

>HAW HAW, IM RICH

Why do people think shit like this isn't going to get screencapped and used to strangle your retardo ass ten years down the line?

You dumb or something user?

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>i don't know how ecelebs works or what relevancy/marketing is
shut up you gay retard :)

>directors don't exist

You think all the big name artists in entertainment waste their time doing work a code monkey could do?

You say this like I'm mad. I'm saying if poorfags didn't waste so much time sourgraping about rich people and used it to be productive they'd be rich by now.

Ai Shinozaki
Patrician's taste

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Dont you have a nazi bologna to overthrow? Oh wait you all willingly voted him in, enjoy being a desert country in 10 years.

CliffyB blowing broke wagecuck internet trolls the fuck out!

keep trying, think about why you might not be getting a job and change that.

This, especially about the good person thing. People who try to aggressively be """good""" on the internet are always the biggest pieces of shit

What? I thought he liked Eternal Darkness.
Nothing wrong with shitting on Silicon Knights, though. Everything they did after Twin Snakes was fucking hilarious.

While you poor losers are hanging out with your friends having fun I'm spending time on my phone in a room on a boat with soulless dollars. I'm not upset at all, you're all just jealous.

I wouldn't give a fuck, Cliffy. I'm not a mentally ill retard that cares about what people that I have never and will never meet think.

>check pat's twitter
>he's still dumping all over cliffy

i knew that fucking ginger was the best friend all along.

hmm, cope, can't do it
camel through the eye of a needle I suppose

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c-cuck

Randy by far, hes actually making the industry extremely worse with his lies and deceit practices while owning a company people for whatever reason want to flock to, CliffyB is just an asshole who couldnt make a dent in the industry if he tried.

social media was a mistake

Why would anyone care about his wealth? He is still clearly, based on his tweets, a pathetic miserable insecure narccissitic manchild. Money doesnt fix that.
Money buys stuff and things. He will always forever be a miserable little cunt hungry for attention. He will always tweet or whatever the thing after twitter is.
Meanwhile, Im pulling 100k and dont have 2 fucks to give. Everyone would always like more money, but who fucking cares as long as you arent struggling to pay bills. Cliffyb is a good lesson on how money doesnt buy happiness, but retards and poor people will always believe they just need a little more moneh.

Or Matt.
Or Lianna.

Or both.

He BTFO's himself everytime he tweets, its really sad

They usually think it's better than their daughters getting banged by 14yo boys. At least the adult have his own income, already have responsability and clear objectives, and if he fucks up, you can just pick a club and rekt him up without being accused of spanking a kid.

I voted for Bolsonaro, and I will vote for him again. And you don't need to worry about us, we are finally on the nice path. Leftists are the ones that break countries, as you can see with Venezuela, or even ourselves during Dilma.

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>my sweet summer child
*sigh*

He can't even meme correctly.

What happened to the good CliffyB that used to be a part of Epic MegaGames, one of the best studios out there?

Because money gives him more of a legitimate platform and he doesn't deserve that.

youre alright user

>Pat is a retard who doesnt know what he talks about
Nothing new there desu.
But the Beyond the Bounds lyrics I actually also forgot it's not a made up language. I mean fuck finnish is a weird language.

Paul Allen, RIP

>he's trying to drag Ice T in to his internet bullshit
what the fuck is even going on anymore

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It's also a quote from Game of Thrones in case you're wondering why normies say it all the time. They're not clever enough to have come up with it on their own.

Only a brainlet takes left or right and thinks they are the true savior. He will fuck your country just like everyone before him. There is no man of the people elected by the people in history.

By happenstance the good are people you're less likely to hear about. You're more likely to hear about people who are rich and did something bad than you are someone who is rich and not doing something bad. Case in point are people who make large anonymous donations, you don't even know who they are. Altruism gets no fame.

No! He bought an expensive boat once, therefore he's a bad person!
>actual opinion sourced from liberal seattle politician

Money only buys the respect of morons. If you care about them, I am afraid you too are a moron.

>how money doesnt buy happiness
Yes it does, just not eternal happiness

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It was very interesting reading about Bolsonaro, he basically said to everyone "I'm gonna be a military dictator, my cabinet members are gonna be military men I know, I'm giving carte blanche to the police to shoot cartel members without trial" and so on. So people voted for him because that's what they wanted, but apparently that makes the people idiots? Journalists are strange.

>make a bunch of shitty games
>cost a bunch of people lots of time, money, and effort
>close up shop
>make low-effort virtue signalling tweet
>when reality tries to crash in, tell yourself that you made enough money to not need to work
Why would anyone WANT him to make another game? He's a reactionary fag-enabler that makes games he thinks will sell, not games people want to play.

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predates GOT, fuck off HBO cuck

When youre eating sand that once was the rainforest, I wonder if you'll still be saying that.

And now Paige is getting in on it too

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i wish i had any of those skills :(

What? That sayings been around since at least 2006

mass accumulation of money is bad, rich people cant be good

which bathrooms should hermaphrodites use? they have both sets of genitals

Cringe

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>Twitter
lol imagine spending your day on twitter arguing with internet people.
Grow the fuck up.

hermies are never really androgynous though unless they really try to be, so fuck off

Some comedian I watched once who I don't remember said it best "money doesn't buy happiness, but it prevents sadness"

T. Consumerist brainlet. Stuff is not happiness. It is programmed into you to get you to fall for the capitalist game of slaving away for a pitiful ammount of cash and then blowing it instantly on worthless garbage.
Money can buy you some experiences, some useful stuff. You can do fine without it. If you can pay bills and have a little to spend on the side, you can save up for whatever you want. A big trip, nice musical instrument, whatever.
The only happiness you can truly have is love and contentedness.

Actual native Finnish here, couldn't understand a word.

The disabled toilet, like all the other freaks

Nah fuck off with your love. If I had money, i wouldnt be in debt, id have a nice computer to play games with and i wouldnt have to leave my house ever to deal with plebs. Id be happy as FUCK

Yeah, money helps to the extent of security. Pay my bills, healthcare, maintenance etc. Live lavishly too even. But jusy look at Notch and what he has to say. Hes still a miserable neckbeard and always will be.
Money is a carrot on a stick to keep the 90% of low class idiots pacified and working.

thanks nostradamus

im not just memeing or being edgy, this is objectivly and genuinely the best thing you can to to your country and your family

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>if you save up all year wagecucking you can go on the same trips and do the same things rich people do!
>same net happiness!
lmao fuck off facebook mom
all cope in that post

user......
A Song of Ice and Fire was written in 1996.

Summers and Winters in ASOIAF last for years and years so naive people are called summer children

>here let me show you all how much i stand for faggotry and cutting your own dick off then killing yourself
Imagine going from the way he was when working on UT and Gears to this...

The problem is the disparity or lack there of.
In all phases of my life, I've never needed more money. Some money yes, but never more.
I make a lot of money today but I still don't need to buy anything new because I already have everything I want. The cost of food and weed hasen't changed either.

I could live the exact same life I live now with way less effort if I quit my fancy job and applied for McDonald's. Me and the welfare rats shop at the same places and have the same wants and needs despite me being several brackets above them.
Money aint shit for nuthin.

If thats truly all you want, what the fuck is stopping you? Im telling you this as someone who basically has just that. You need simple goals, and it sounds like you have them. You dont need to be rich for that. A 50k anual salary will give you that unless you mean you also dont want to work ever again.
Without love, loneliness catches up fast. Money wont fix that. You will persue it forever but never find the solution. Life is simple. Think simply. You dont need to be rich to be satisfied. You just need to not be a fucking retard. Statistically, you are.

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You got yourself into debt in the first place.

Are cruises a rich man's thing in the US?

PAT NO

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How much you wanna bet this post was made sincerely

He still living of gears of war. His only decent game.

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No you goddamn idiot, you missed the point completely. Theres no reason to even explain further because you are the exact moron I am talking about. Your life is just a hamster wheel with a carrot dangling in front. You are too unsophisticated to understand basic philosophy of being content.
Simple and content is all you need to come to peace with this existence.

It was coined in a game of thrones and popularized in the HBO series turbozoomers

Why would that term even exist outside of the asoiaf context

>this entire reply chain

t.retards im older than you im an oldfag get out noob!!!! i was here first no i was here first! shut up newfag no youre the newfag

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Guarantee he just thinks that "orange man" is referring to himself due to ginger.

oh shit is it the same patrick Boivin that i think it is ?
youtube.com/watch?v=T3_KtEC1rkk

But he is orange, he's a ginger.

>lol its your fault for going to college
>lol its your fault the baby boomers fucked the economy
>lol its your fault for not getting a job with a degree in electrical engineering

>ASSUREDLY

Based Paige

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best girl

>Cucky B still acts like he's relevant

vocaroo.com/i/s0GoLpHoUcsH

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No, he's living off his Facebook investment money. The Gears of War money dried up years ago. He likes to pretend his own work made him rich instead of being a leech like he is.

Why would it not be sincere?

How is going to college not your fault?

Nah senpai. Im content being alone. People blow, stop watching romantic comedies. You dont need to attach yourself to somebody who just wants to use you to get by in life so they dont have to try anymore, but consume that media some more goyim

Goading for attention is common here.

based old man

nobody read those fucking books before game of thrones you dickslurping moron

cliffyb is a humongous ball sucking faggot that should fuck off into obscurity forever but I unironically want that kapowski tshirt

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Watch the unsophisticated caveman lash out in rage when he feels out of control but was tricked into thinking what he needs is control.
Shit is bad no matter when you are born. You have a 99% of being born to little wealth and little ability. The only way to move on is to accept it, find simple things of being human, and be happy. As I said, love is a big one. You dont need all this shit, you dont need a good car, you dont need a big home. You need to fix your mind.

>ASSUREDLY

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How is that walmart job going for you user?

How does this post relate to what user said? He is pointing out that the phrase was coined in A Game of Thrones.

Pat's getting some amazing sex tonight, isn't he?

Twitter is great because it makes retards like Cliffy realize how nobody respects him.

Stop watching my little pony. Love doesnt fix shit.

i want it, so he crash again and we can laugh at him again.

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>present day
>present time
hahaha!

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massive cringe.

with a brick face shovel built jew
still better than what i got

The 5 people that read those books before GoT did not popularize that saying, you fucking dope.

What does my job have to do with the question? You'd be really mad if you're the same user and you found out my title and salary while also knowing I spent $0 on the well known scam of college. Sounds like you're trying to shuck the blame of the poor choices you made out of ignorance.

*massive minge

Thats cool man. I have my own love life, not a facsimile through fiction. I am lucky, and I know not everyone will find this kind of love. But the two of us dont care if we were homeless, because its the feeling that makes you grateful to be given live. Even though I was/am a suicidally depressed person forever, I have so much to live for now. Things are worthless. Money is a trick. We are simple beings, and happiness and peace for ourselves can only be found in simple things.

based fuckin Pat

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Yes user, I am sure you're a millionaire with a 6 pack with 4 girlfriends. We know. Me too, getting my dick sucked as I post this right now~~

PAT YES

Exactly, the saying was popularized in the show.

If you deny this you're revealing yourself to be the final boss of zoomers

>jaded autist assumes everyone else is an incel like him

What is this obvious alt account shit?

FRIENDSHIP AND LOVE IS THE WAY TO LIFE, TWILIGHT SPARKLE

Strange projecting user. Stop consuming media that promotes the need to become a six pack chad with a billion dollar investment portfolio.

Absolute madman!
Love it

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not only that, he became a millionaire on his own dime, and at the age of 20 which was 15 years ago.

because you can't get rich post 30, its against the fucking law!

Friends aren't shit. But thats fine you can mock me. Really low effort trolling. If you dont even have money, love, family, ambitions, and spend all day shitposting, at least get good at the shitposting.

why are you mad user

just watched pic related, got really similar vibes

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>CliffyB
>Got his job at Epic Games when he was 15 through merit alone.
>Has the balls to shit talk other people.

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>His twitter feed
Jesus fuck

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i have none of those things. cute gf tho

Gib khazar milkies

you can get one keep looking senpai.

Literally who

Do you think this will come up on the next podcast?

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Isn't his wife pretty hot?
How come they don't have any kids yet?

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Your other post seemed to imply you're in debt.
I don't know why you're trying to brush this off. Like be serious for a minute. I'm sorry that this fact upsets you but that's not my fault.
I may not be a millionaire but at least I'm not in frustrated.

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Paige is fucking ugly, she can't sing and you only know who she is because she fucks and sucks ecelebs and then forces herself into their content.

Jazz is a great game, but from this image you can see that Cliff had no real part in making it.

I wouldn't think so because I regularly go on them with my gf

hes gay shes his beard

>175k
Is that supposed to be a lot?

hi matt

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what was he trying to express by making himself look like a faggot?
is he a political activist now?

Ok, I'm getting how CliffyB is a massive asshole but the only thing I'm not understanding is the severance. I'm aware that he lied about paying it for months when it was only 3 weeks, but may someone help me to better understand how he never paid them? Should he have been paying them much longer for all the time they put in for 3-4 years?

>hardcore sjw
>always picks up liberal bullshit and argues leftist agenda
>uses haha i am so fucking rich as an argument
I don't want to make this about politics, but come on... Cliffy is such a fucking walking stereotype.

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No, it is what it is. If user wants to judge me not based on my character but my wallet, then so be it. I'm in my 20's and my average monthly cost is $500 which I make up in a day. It's far from debt.

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You have a gf you dont love? user. Just buy a onahole

I didn't say all rich people are shit though

>NOOOOOOOOOOOO
>LIAM FIND ME SOMEONE FAMOUS I CAN MAKE FUN OF TOO

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It's because he started trying to waft his farts in everybodies face about what a great guy he was for paying them out of his own pocket.

>One of us no longer has to work another day in their life
>He says to the guy that hasn't worked in almost a decade

>gets hired by randy to help make borderlands 3 radical and hip with the mainstream
>inserts his own brand of toilets and tarantino-esque designs for the vault hunters (now called white male hunters)
>gearbox and bazingski both go down in history as the most deluded group of people, more than burch himself

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Or heck, he should try to remember why they even got together in the first place, maybe that'll hold some answers.

>money doesn't make you happy
only someone who's never been poor would say that

>able to eat & drink what you want
>able to buy a car so you don't need public transportation
>able to afford a house that would give you better privacy
>able to afford insurances to give you security in case of "what if" scenarios
>able to live relatively stress free
>able to take responsibility for another person (wife, children, parents etc)

yeah, technically it's not the MONEY that makes you happy, but the things you buy with it :)

3 weeks is kind of thin for zero warning, but not terrible. The issue is that he flat out lied about it because he wanted people to know what a good guy he is.

I sure hope so.

He'll surely also talk shit in his stream later today.

>only someone who's never been poor would say that
I grew up in a house where food an electricity where not gauranteed. In 1 bedroom that was 10x15 with 2 beds and at least 4 people, but often 6.

This thread is filled with people making terrible assumptions.
If anything I hold that opinion BECAUSE I grew up poor. I know full well that money isn't required to be content, probably better than most.

>humans adapt to their given situation
>you'll find something else to be miserable about
I agree that money doesn't buy happiness, it sure helps, but having a comfortable amount of cash will just erase problems you worry about now and new ones will replace them.

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user, it's okay. I don't think the other guy gets it. I make much much less than you (and probably less than most employed Yea Forumsirgins) currently, but I've never been happier
I cut down on hours I work. time > money, if you can still afford to live

>she can't sing

TO MAKE BREAD YOU NEED SOME YEAST

Okay I think I get it now, CliffyB shut down his studio of 3-4 years without warning and the employees found out they were out of a job by themselves due to bad cash-ins, after this, instead of keeping his mouth shut he immediately brags about how rich he is while lying about how he paid his 65 employees severance for months when it was only 3 weeks, therefore leading to him to be known as a lying jackass who never paid his employees severance (at least in full).
Thank you anons, this helps a lot.

I am seriously fortunate to have found actual love in this shitty hellscape of life. I mean, compared to the basement dwellers who post here, I guess my chances were already way higher than them since I do leave my house on occasion.
The unsophisticated idiot of the human race is like a seperate devolved species compared to the smaller group of us who have functional minds. Like its literally just npcs, go find a hole to fuck, wtf its pregant i was blocking, cant afford shit cant get a job with only a highschool degree, life is just a spiral of debt and alcohol ultimately creating another npc for the world to exploit.

CliffyB may be a retard, but

F U C K P A T
U
C
K

P
A
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i used to contest "sweet summer child" being in the reddit wojak compilation but i understand now.

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I'm happy for you because you seem to be happy for yourself. You understand the truth and know what balance is.

Why does Abe continue to fight a losing battle? Japs are like pandas. It's obvious they don't want to exist any longer.

who could be behind this post?

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Remember when Cliffy begged Epic to stop poaching his devs then fired them all without warning like a week later?
Fuck him.

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>Using his money as a burn
That's how you know you lost the argument, Cliffy.

This is completely wrong.

Randy's ruined shit I actually like so forever him. Cliffy B for better or worse was never attached to anything I liked.

Most people here lived comfy incel basement lives with pushover parents. They play the game of money because they are so weak and flabby.
I know what you mean user, but we should probably stop trying to convince them and just be grateful we have the perspective most others seem to lack.

Fuck off Liam

I've said "yikes" my entire life and now I can't any more because Reddit gets credit for (and ruins) everything.

get outta here Matt

Does anyone have those old SA screencaps of Cliffy B talking about wanting to fuck 13 year olds

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hmm...

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Damn, blown the fuck out. He's still eating off Gears residuals.

>>able to eat & drink what you want
>>able to buy a car so you don't need public transportation
>>able to afford a house that would give you better privacy
>>able to afford insurances to give you security in case of "what if" scenarios
>>able to live relatively stress free
>>able to take responsibility for another person (wife, children, parents etc)
This nigga gets it. t.poor fag

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>they didn't make that into the actual theme song

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After you take out all the art, animations, coding, and music what are you really left with from the game?

cringe

She is ticklish, user.

I am gay. I do not understand this and I hate this so much.

wtf i love cliffyb now

Please please please change this godawful font

Breh

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>One of us no longer has to work another day in their life
Pat doesn't either as long as the stream and podcast keep going.

What a weird argument to get into. Cliffy randomly brags about his retirement, and says people want him to make another game (which literally nobody wants).

Then Pat comes out of nowhere and throws an insult his way, and Cliff throws one back. Now they are arguing at each other like teenagers. Sometimes I'm happy I don't use social media.

>cutiesexyjailbaitday
how is he still walking around, he's surrounded by hounds hungry for blood

>my average monthly cost is $500
Please tell me how.

>having a comfortable amount of cash will just erase problems you worry about now and new ones will replace them
only problems that you can't (necessarily) solve with money are political, emotional or medical

also, "first world problems"
aka, minor as fuck things that wouldn't bother a poor person but ruins the day for someone entitled - like, having to take a bus, getting your clothes dirty or having your favorite restaurant closed

he thought up ripping off sonic the hedghog? lmao. that game sucked, was some footfag furry bait and it copied sonic so hard it kept the springs and didn't even tried to hide it.
also, why the fuck did they make the rabbit the exact same color as 90% of the floors

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>I WAS PART OF THE FORTNITE NOBODY PLAYS OR CARES ABOUT

Pat has a lot of followers that's probably the only reason he responded

>try to pull sympathy points
>get dabbed on by one of the devs you fucked over
AHAHAHAHAHAHA

You can almost feel the tension and regret in that picture. They probably invited him before he shut the studio down and reluctantly still allowed him to come and he tried to act like everything was alright while they were visibly uncomfortable

He waited until Pat's comment had more likes than his or something like that too.

Wait, is Pat married to the chick who goes on Rekieta Law?

Twitter makes you mentally ill

Oh God not another sooooiboy efag. Are they growing them in a lab somewhere what the fuck

she is something, user

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t. knows nothing about gates

You mean the Superfrog ripoff?

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While I don't like to admit it, arguing is a form of mental and spiritual exercise. I reaffirm this perspective when it's challenged, and if I'm bested then I'll learn something anyway.
If people agree with me though, then they'll learn something too. So I don't think it's a complete waste of time even if I only really do it for recreational sake. If that makes any sense.

Be really boring while having no debt. My house is paid off so I only pay ~$1.5k in taxes at the end of the year. Utilities in my area are retarded low, especially electric. Likewise for food and shit. I'm not obese and I cook myself.
I don't really do anything on purpose to keep it this low, it just is that way.

howd he go to that from this in 2006? How was he not absolutey fucking swimming in chocha with these looks? Now hes out here looking like a full on metero/homo?

Seriously. What the fuck happened?

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Tbf, he doesn't have to work while wagecucks seethe. But at the same time, I wouldnt wish being Cliff on anyone.

>Shaved ice back home. Summer is definitely here.

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How are his Memoirs going? Imagine all the deep insights he will provide is with..

BAYTUH

>How was he not absolutely fucking swimming in chocha with these looks?
he probably was

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Yea but he obviously WANTS to work. He wants to make a new game as big as gears of war but he cant.

He's a manlet.

"You're an asshole!"
Wow that was rude
"I guess you just can't take criticism"

Pat-fags actually think this makes sense.

His wife is like a twig

*SLAMS BOOK ON TABLE*

Oh man, some random faggot on Twitter is shitting on an irrelevant former game designer. This is definitely video games.

Because he had nothing to say, so he resorted to pettiness like the faggot pucciboi he is.

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Why not Jazz Jackrabbit?

>a million us dollars is a trillion won
Should I ever win the lotto, I know exactly where I'm going.

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Didn't he make millions off of oculus? I swear, gamedev millionaires are never happy. Look at notch.

Abe don't want no halfling foreigner babies

If you keep using this font you're going to get some form form of autism, if you haven't already

I get it, its pretty much why I bother arguing here. I have the problem of feeling invested in helping other people with problems I overcame.

keep in mind that korea is pretty fucking cheap to live in too. a trillion won goes a LONG way. plus the girls are way cheaper, at least until the undercurrent of feminism in seoul spreads to the better cities.

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Married burned out slut as bland and fake as he is

she sings very well and I first found her through The Dick Show podcast. Knew her before any of the former friends

>rich
>christian
pick one

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What? No, a more apt analogy would be dating Taylor Swift's ugly cousin before Taylor Swift became famous.

Randy is prime example of man who refused to look away from the abyss.

you're full of shit.
You have no idea what it's like to live a poor life as an adult
Average wage or less, and you'll always have to stress about bills and/or loans
Having a small business, working your ass off for it's success only to have that one bad year that threatens to close it because you can't afford the upkeep costs of your shop.

I don't know where you live, but I constantly see poor people and not one of them would ever say they're content.
They eat one meal a day and can't even raise children because they'd live equally miserably.

Money is more than just material things,
it's about being able to stand on your own, like for example, not having to go to a deadbeat job every morning or being able to put your old parents to a good nursing home

They are not married but are in a relationship and been living together for several years, they probably dont consumate it because she may die literally any second now.

People who REALLY don't want to hear others opinions, use social media where you need to confirm who talks to you, like whatsapp or Steam. Cliffy is just like any retard that cries on twitter: They shove their head in the crowd, and think literally everyone there will be nice to him, when that's not how life works. In the moment you get in on a public social media, you are being bound to be criticized, owned, or atacked on a daily basis if you are both famous and controversial, positive and negative comments come in the same flow. If you can't take it, it's better to choose a closed online space.

Want another example on how an open social space works? Here: I specifically don't give you permission to disagree with me, as I didn't ask for your opinion. If you really think Cliffy is on the right, shut your whore mouth and don't reply to me.

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Why does Yea Forums keep creating threads about this faggot yet keep saying he's a irrelevant failure?

wait are you talking about minhee or cliffy? i don't think minhee is married

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Woke af

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so one BIG qquestionif this faggot lover is wealthy as fuck and lawbreakers was mostly a chinese invest i mean they did 70% of the funding of that game why did he closed his studio? fear of losing his own capital instead of scaming chinese ?

>facebook
wot?

it's a secret kpop thread

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Based

I would unironically be willing to give Cliffy another shot at vidya if I could. The guy has some really interesting ideas, he's just too much of an egotistical faggot to handle things by himself. He needs somebody with a brain to stop him from making retarded decisions

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Because its funny to watch trainwrecks and bad people coping with failure?

Schadenfreude

Hey lady (male) why are you using that font?

Cute bird. Post more

>Be "left wing" in America
>Be millionaire
>Insult poorfags

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Remember when Cliff was the face of manly dudebro games?

>undercurrent
bruh it's like a nation of golddiggers

Notch is still a fat, miserable loser.

He was begging to be on Pewdiepie or some other shit the other day.

He isn't really the poster child for "MONEY IS GREAT"

Really makes me think

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Are South Koreans as much of assholes to foreigners as Nips?

there is a massive movement of social justice in korea. it's just different from american SJW because like you said they're way into money still.

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>all these assasted poorfags

Cliffy is in a beach in mootxico sniffing coke and banging hookers, Yea Forums is here jerking it to Chinese cartoons

So yes. I'm surprised Nick is tangentally related to video games.

cliffy please stop wearing rainbows you're making actual gay people look bad
oh sweatie.........

>Be "left wing" in America
>Be millionaire
>fake your own hate crime
makes you go hmmm

no, they're notorious sluts for white cock. they hate indians and blacks though. they just love white skin.

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Clifford β

Maddox is that you?

Why do you fags even give him the time of the day anymore? You're only doing exactly what he wants by giving him all this unwarranted attention. Just ignore his dumb ass and let him wallow in obscurity.

>Wow I'm so witty, eh mom?

I am a literal brazilian mutt and everyone in Japan treated my very nicely, it's trully a country of very educated and polite people.

If people are treating you like an asshole, they are probably just responding to you in your own tune.

because it gets retards (like you) to reply to them

Because 3dpd

No actually I'm jacking it to Korean sluts

Not him but I agree with the two of you. This is why i hate first*ids and their minor problems.

oh god imagine the state of maddox now
actually I don't want to

I agree with him on this.

keep it up user

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>Holy Roman Empire
>Poverty
Pick one.

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Whoa that's going in the lawsuit.

You think that's bad? I've used the word "problematic" as short hand for complications at work for two decades and now I can't thanks its new colloquial definition.

Oh shit, Seolhyun is so sexy.
When I was in Korea, they used to have these cardboard cutouts of her outside some of the phone stores.
Shit killed me everytime

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Wtf is he actually gay?

>I have the problem of feeling invested in helping other people with problems I overcame.
Sometimes I feel like empathy is a curse. I don't even know why I feel the same way, but so it is.
With that being said I'm going to be mean as fuck in the next reply.

What do you want me to say?
The frustrations I had when I was younger was the fuel that kept me out of destitute. If I could not only figure out how to get out of poverty, alone, as a teenager, then adults, especially business owners, have no excuse.

I have no sympathy for those that are not content with their situation, but do nothing about it other than blame the world, others, or some unknown force.
As time goes on this believe has only gotten stronger. If you are poor you are so by choice.

>how can you say something so harsh! don't you know it requires effort and is incredibly difficult?!
I do know it, and such is life for those in that situation. It is hard, but it is finite. If you want to tell me "I don't want to commit X years of my life to making the rest of it better, I absolutely have to do these things that push me into poverty" then I don't want to hear it. Everyone in every part of the world coming from the lowest of situations has the same equal ability to get out of it.
You have legless folk traveling to the other side of the world just to get out of their situation. If You're in America, Europe or some other modern country, I damn well don't want to hear anything about difficulty. America is fucking easymode of climbing out of poverty if you put the smallest amount of effort into it. People pretending like it is all chance or some other nonsense. Pure poppycock.

Hmm, interesting take. Glad to know you are doing well there.

She doesn't sing "very well". She was only on the dickshow because she is was being used as a cocksleeve there as well. Pay attention, retard. She's a whore.

your cat has autism.

It tells you right there in the beebles not to be rich

the BEST kind of autistm

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I thought Jesús was talking about rich camels.

>H
>R
>E

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I'd take a GF that had a chin I could forge a sword with.

Why can I tell she is a (delicious) jew mistress?

she has quite a cute face

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>Everyone in every part of the world coming from the lowest of situations has the same equal ability to get out of it.
This is the most survivorship bias shit I've seen in years, wew lad

name?

what is the treaty of westfalia.

she's Ben Shapiro's sister

shut up cliffy and make a game

holy shit, Pat, I didn't know your balls were that big.
has pat ever done something like this before?

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Cliff is in the public eye
For better or worse anyone is free to say anything about whatever they want.
In the nicest way you should get over yourself a little and see that even in people "being mean" there is sometimes something to take away from it
Seriously, it sucks when people are mean to you but it's the best way to improve yourself.

The latest trend between soi male allies is being "tee hee, I think I might be bi, some guys are cute"
I think it's a gateway to outright cuckoldry

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why are your filenames in dark elven runes?

I could flip it around all the same and claim defeatism.
>you say it's possible but I'm in a situation most people don't make it out of
The percentages do not matter, the reason why those that do, does.

shitshow

it's in the file name, DaHye. here's a fan cam if you want to jerk it to 60fps
youtube.com/watch?v=ZXXPrH2ydLE
i'm a big koreaboo

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wow bazinga came out of the closet?

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God I wish. Modern anime should contained in the shithole that produced it.

>hating on mustard queen

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>If you are poor you are so by choice.
let me just waste 3 years of my life to make enough money to go to a school I may or may not graduate just so I can TRY to get a job that pays better but may not hire or may not pay me enough
man, it sucks CHOOSING all this shit

honest to god i really hope he's not gonna pretend to be bi/gay all of a sudden
we've got it rough enough already we don't need another braindead loudmouth making all of us look even worse

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youtu.be/M2XYf4zI-I4

I wish I could find the G4 interview where he tried really hard to look passionate and sexy.

I'm not the user you were arguing with it's just there are people in work camps and brothels and pirate gangs, you can't say all of them even can get out of it

Did OP's pic not convince you?!

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are you ok hun

>that response

lol, this man needs to get off the Internet and get a hobby,

It is sad that a grown man doesn't understand the rewards of hard work go beyond money.

You've already got trendsexuals among your ranks tho

My favorite insult was shitlord a few years ago. Gone, taken from me.

if only lain were real and cliffyb was not

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They are still looking for a good bull.

Why do i feel like our society is degrading...

Holy shit, that's a fucking comfy dog.

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>Every normie is all over GoT like flies over a turd
>nuh uh, this term isn't Reddit
Kys your sis.

Forgot the pic. Kinda like that.

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>yet another twitter screencap thread

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i know, that's why i said it's already difficult enough
i don't think these people understand how much harm they're actually doing
cute pooch

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Am I missing something or are you saying money isn't important while making more in a year than I have in my life? What the fuck?
"Food isn't important" he said, fat an contented atop his fucking pile of meals

As someone who will never have to work another day in my life as well. Cliffy B is a fucking cunt for saying shit like that.

Thread went from Faggot to Kpop, and now to doggos.

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Yeah but user, we live in a reality where Lain was created. At least we have that.

yo there's dogs ITT?

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how about homemade cheesecake? this one is filled with bailey's, crusted with oreos, and topped with dark chocolate ganache over a raspberry compote

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>ting ad below thread
lmao gonna call brian redban with this shit lolll

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twitter is fucking gay, everyone just going for the zinger that gets them 300k retweets. you're not that interesting.

How to jew into jewess

Ahhh, it finally happened. I hate women no matter their nationality.

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>dresses all hardcore and tries to be punisher like
>runs away from women that want to meet him, pretends to be friends with pornstar in a online game, gets anxiety over online shit, constantly being a closeted homo, gets pushed around by wife, backs down when woolie makes fun of him, has trouble grasping the most basic mechanics in a game, blames games from the past of being dated to cover up his stupidity
what a fucking faggot

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That looks nice but you can't have it out here with all these dogs running around, you might make one sick

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You're acting as if this notion you've presented is the only option. Worse you're acting like 3 years of dedication is a waste, and it would be more preferable to spend ALL of your years in poverty instead.
If you're content with the situation then sure, whatever. But if you're not content with the situation then I'm sorry, there is a price to pay to fix it, and it's not monetary.

It depends on how you mean. They all could, it's a matter of if they want to. Both want to change their situation (as above), and/or are willing to do what it takes to do so.

Ironically, the type of people you're talking about are doing what they see is necessary to change their situation. While not all of them, certainly a good number of them. Go speak with a handful of whores and see how many of them want to do it forever, and what they need the money for. In my area, most of them are using it to fund college while the rest are drug addicts. Same job, same effort, same sacrifice, different attitudes and ends.

i like pat but paige comes off really sketchy and not in the le cuck meme sense, but on her ideological side

>How was he not absolutey fucking swimming in chocha with these looks?
Thats probably a really good picture of him, Other than that he probably was but you need to keep in mind the guy is a total dick, Said so himself.

lain is as real as you imagine her to be

shes trying really hard to convince herself she didnt make a mistake by being with this guy
and that she's actually a catch herself

Normalfag internet is spooky because we're kind of bad but that's because we have the mask of anonymity
If they're like that without the mask what the fuck are they like with it?

So he got out of making games. And then he realizes he needs attention again, so he posts dumb tweets in the vain hope of becoming relevant again.

What a dumbass.

This is the type of post I'd expect a junior in high school to make. It's amazing how easily social media can warp the minds of grown adults.

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bleszinski for the love of god please stay away from everything gay i am BEGGING you
if you care about gay people stay as far as fucking possible from us thank you in advance

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I was out of the loop what did cringgyb do?
I don't know the other faggot you speak of

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>my 45 year old boomer ass is definitely going to get laid for this

That's a cute sky dog.

I sure wish CliffyB would pay his former employees the severance pay he owes them.

>cliffy too 2 hours and a half to come up with a "witty" reply

explain

Dogs a good

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Akon

>they told me to make another game so I became a faggot

powerful

jabs at his hairline never work, unlike matt he went bald with grace and never tried to hide it so when people look at him they don't go "how bald" they just go "oh it's pat."

having a hard time making a connection between the post and the picture.

Best description of Games of Thrones I've read.

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le p𝒶rty pooch h𝒶s 𝒶rrived

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What does it afford me personally though? My affluence point is well below six figures, making more than I need doesn't benefit me in any way.
I mentioned previously in the thread I could work for McDonald's and be just as content, if not more so since the work would be easier. The only reason I keep this job is because the work I do is valuable to a wide range of people.

Having enough money is important, having more than enough money isn't in my opinion. And the thing is that anyone is capable of getting enough money, I might argue most are able to get more than enough but people don't wish to put in the effort for one reason or another.
>but I have to go to the bar on the weekends
>but I need to look fly or people will make fun of me
Always thinking short term, not realizing that even if something is hard for a year or so that it's done after that. People are unwilling to sacrifice short term comfort for long term security of larger comfort. That's my observation of those around me at least, not meaning to generalize.

Amazing recovery

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