Why are Americans so fucking poor?

>Brazil
Right on the money.

>Americans unironically have to pay lots of money for decent health insurance

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Half the jobs in America pay less than $18 an hour.

the trick is to work smart not hard.

I sell FFXIV mogstation gifts that I get from steam for russian prices and sell them at american prices. make about $2000 a month just flipping items.

Bye bye!

We talk about games here sir

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the absolute state of South Dakota

is there a single country with a large population that has more than half making more?

because umm SWEETIE... corporations are people too!

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Allowing women into male work fields reduced the demand for workers allowing employers to pay employees less. Allowing too much legal immigration further saturated the market with labor. Illegal immigration is just the icing on the cake.

Question is: Why do Americans hate socialism?

I blame opioids and other degeneracy.

Americans spend their disposable money on drugs they got hooked on by their doctors and disposable material things they won't need or care about 10 years from now like the latest $700 smartphone and video game like RDR2

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Because we enjoy freedom.

But you have none.

I'm an Argie and barely make 3k

yes most jobs in the world give you less than 18/hour. what a revelation. also video games.

I earn $20/hr and spend all my disposable income on beer, food and video games.

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>muhammed talking about freedom

Reminder that americans are so fucking dumb that half of them believes that a rich pimp who made fortune building shit with illegal mexicans is going to secure the border, while another half believes 1% of rich fucks who own 80% of america's wealth are going to pay their medical expenses which constitute 20% of US GDP.

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Imagine getting over 90% of your generated capital taken from you, and defending the people who do it.

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Sasuga mutt boy.

what's that, like 35k a year? fine for guilt free spending on vidya

They worked hard to get where they are, remember the six million

>tfw only make $14/hr
We're all gonna make it, r-right?

You are free of money.

Can't hear you over the sound of your mom and sister gettin raped in the streets.

woaaah its almost like the poor actually get employed when you dont tax the employer Woaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

OwO
qu'est-ce que c'est

Wakie wakie wagie

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totally not rolling

My country has less hitskins than you have brain cells.

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Rolling for her

>tfw making 5k a month with a low level tech cert

>working class does all the job
>businessmen never do anything but they get all the money

explain this, america?
if a man produces $100 he should be paid $100, not $25

No wonder it's so much less stressful to live in Europe or Australia than fucking America

no wonder you ameritards are so fat and angry

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what is this

Maybe he is not in the land of free / europe / several middle east country.

8k/years (before tax) here.

Depending where you live, $18 an hour isn't that bad. If you're in a big city, it's absolute shit, but in a medium to small sized town that's perfectly livable especially if you have a spouse who also makes that much.

Now post the % paid by each of these brackets. I'm expecting a lot of crow and dicks in your mouth.

$56k/yr as a FrontEnd/ Dev.
I know, I should be earning way more than that but I just got into this industry and its fucking hell

This is not how it works, and if you believe for a moment that licking the balls of a rich person will somehow benefit you more than receiving the benefits directly you're nothing more than a retard.

Because a lot live outside of their affordability. Idiots living in high cost places because it's cool or having shitty jobs because they're failures.

Fuck any fastfood employee that thinks they deserve $15+ an hour when they can't even press buttons on a computer properly.

3 Hour work and you can buy a Video game
Sounds like a good deal to me

>6:30
What the fuck? That when I got up for school when I was a little kid. This shits so funny because you can easily see who isnt larping as a NEET.

Because they're a bunch of brainwashed cucks who shriek about MUH COMMUNISM whenever somebody tries to legislate in favor of the middle or lower classes by putting more burden on the wealthy.

rollerino

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$18 an hour is $35000. How the fuck do you not live off this? I live off £20000

That statement doesn't really say a thing about the number of shitskins in your country or how many brain cells the other user has

Dumbest post in this thread, and that's saying something

何それ

This is how it works:
>don't teach mutts how money works or how to save
>allow them to buy shit on credit
>get into massive debt
>poorfags gets all their shit taken away they couldn't pay for in the first place
>shit gets auctioned off again to some poor sap who falls for the same scam
>rinse and repeat
So, basically, jews.

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Just live with four other people, have no time to enjoy your hobbies, and have little to no will to continue. 14 an hour is fiiiine, especially when you realize that wage compression is happening across the country and employers are doing there damndest to pretend it isn't.

2 words: Health Insurance

I'm not going to get who I want.

>legislate
Yikes

>average mutt
>having a signifcant count of brain cells
Guess it'll stay a mystery.

That's just how it goes. The higher up you are the less work you do.

If not 08 then bury me alive

>Can Trump help?
Because every time the state intervened in the economy it turned out so well and didn't make things worse

gimme sum sugar

holy shit I take it back

Because we let billionaire assholes run the country so feckless bootlicking shitstains can pretend powerful men dick them in the ass.

>$21000 for California
Isn't that place ridiculously expensive? What the fuck.

it's fine if you're single but most amerimutts have 3-4+ kids

Because the economic and political systems benefits the wealthy at the expense of anyone and everything else

Check my 96

>you shouldn't be payed a livable wage because I dislike cherrypicked examples of people who would benefit from minimum wage increases.

A lot of americans are ignorant and have been feed propaganda all their life user, if you confront them with facts they will rather fight you for the right to stay chained than to question why they have those chains in the first place.

>amerimutts have 3-4+ kids
more like spics and niggers

California is teeming with those ugly fuckers.

great

The unskilled labor of unintelligent people isn't worth much to anyone.

it slipped

hint: the green areas are where white people live

Lemme guess, your solution is communism, right?

You definitely don’t deserve to be PAID anything more than minimum wage, if that

>complaining about $18 an hour
thats like $25/ hour canadian

if you cant live off that something else is wrong

Nobody is stopping wagie from making his own business and finding success

bet it's a trash tier

>TFW in your 3rd world country you only get $2 per hour

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>tfw getting around 200$ a month net
>live in parents house in kurwaland, so it's enough for my expenses
>not to mention that minimal wage in kurwaland is 4$ per hour
18 bucks an hour is huge amount of money, for fuck's sake.

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>video game threads getting deleted
>this shit is still up
look here /pol/niggers, this is why the other boards hate you and want you gone.

Costing a lot but not paying much is what we do best here, besides efficiently sterilising every ecosystem we interact with

>make a lot of money
>get a larger tax cut because you pay more in taxes due to making a lot of money
whoa... wtf...

Thats still at least 3 times what i make in my third world shithole.

>quoting Bukowski and thinking that supports your position
He was one of the worst human beings to have ever lived.

tell me what my financial interest is you stupid commie

Funny enough, Canada, Denmark, Sweden and Norway used to have lower corporate taxes than the US but paid higher wages. Maybe you're just a retard speaking out of his ass.

>18 bucks an hour is huge amount of money, for fuck's sake.
When you have kurwa cost of living and don't pay 200 per month for internet and phone

t. mad tranny

Becauser Reagan adopted Neoliberalism which makes the rich richer and the poor poorer.

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Vi sitter här i Venten och spelar lite DotA
och pushar på och smeker
med motståndet vi leker

Vi sitter här i Venten och spelar lite DotA
och springer runt och creepar
och motståndet vi sleepar

Vi sitter här i Venten och spelar lite DotA
och pushar på och smeker
med motståndet vi leker

Vi sitter här i Venten och spelar lite DotA
och springer runt och creepar
och motståndet vi sleepar

/pol/ is the reason why Hiro is bringing in the ad, and crypto/datamining money
No matter how much you cry about your video games, /pol/ will be the last board that'll be deleted.

because hey have to pay for healthcare and schooling of course

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>tfw country's minimum wage is $10 a fucking day

Holy shit get me out of my shithole

>you have to purposely play like shit to get the good ending

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I read that as Daily Dose

Because the standard of living is much lower, so I don't need to pay ONE HUNDRED FUCKING DOLLARS for a steak in the US like I do in canada.

>stuck on Yea Forums instead of superior 4channel
>bringing in the ad money
omegalul

>third world shithole
Poland? Argentina?

>if I say nigger ill fit in
redd*t

>COMMUNISM GOOD
Venezuala is looking fresh right about now, right my man? Socialism looking hot, how could anyone disagree unless they're a bootlicker!!! (I heard this on this epic socialist podcast I pay monthly to listen to!)
You definitely have all the answers, and aren't just some shitty college student that thinks they've got it all figured out from reading aggressive social media posts shaming you to believe certain things!

Reminder that chinks in US fake their addresses because school is tied to where you live and they don't want their children to go to the same school as melanin enriched people.

Taxation is theft. I don't support stealing from people because that's wrong. Of course I have financial incentive to steal, but that doesn't mean I should. Using the government as a proxy does not absolve me of wrongdoing, just as hiring thugs to mug people for me would not.

Sure but your cost of living is way lower.

>Ive never worked anywhere above menial labor
I admit, people in management get paid more than they should, but a lot of you fucking do not have what it takes to run anything. And its painfully obvious when one of you do get into a position of power because you immediately start shitting things up.

fuck off election tourist I've been here longer than you've been alive

>we need marxism dude!
the workers are more than welcome to buy a factory

Third world nigger doesnt understand the cost of living, color me surprised.

I s2g if I get some literally who waifu again I will shit

>so I don't need to pay ONE HUNDRED FUCKING DOLLARS for a steak in the US like I do in canada.

Is that real? I don't know if I'd be able to deal with that kind of shit. I cook a steak at least once a week.

Go back to bed, Marx.

can you not read? Its saying that the more you make the larger the percentage your taxes go down, skewing really hard to the very top. The fact that the numbers and bars are different means it isnt proportional dumbass

Oh boy the Brits got off of work!!!
Hello there, """""""Great""""""" Britian!

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But Venezuela isn't communist or socialist.
How could they be that, when they're economy still operated on the profit motive?

They're just like the Russia/Saudi Arabia of Latin America, but more retarded and run by a former bus driver.

If it's so easy, why don't you do it?

Yes, people "choose" to work as waiters. Also that won't even be a job pretty soon. Fucking retarded arguments from NPCs, holy fuck.

Oh, but maybe is like they have socialized healthcare and superior policies regarding the well being of their own people to begin with, oh oh
Oh no no no nonsense, it must be that making the rich richer alone will somehow make the rest of the population richer too,

>that pic
This is why capitalism is a dead-end system.

>been working at current job for years
>make $15 an hour
>not bad and with occasional overtime and bonuses I make about 55-60k a year
>shitlord Pritzker passes Illinois $15 minimum wage
>suddenly retards off the street are making as much as me with years of experience
>no word yet on how the new minimum wage will effect current employees

Already working on my resume. If the other shoe drops and we aren’t getting a pay bump to compensate this dumbass minimum wage hike I’m looking for better work

I'm a lawyer and I barely make more than that. Suck it up, Amerifats.

I understand how economics and ethics work, so I vote for lower taxes and less govt. Poor people who vote for big govt are literal retards throwing themselves into a woodchipper because some silver-tongued tyrant promised them free shit at the bottom.

>run by a former bus driver.
Reminder that you are soon to be run by a former bartender

There's a reason why countries with super low income are more susceptible with poverty mate.

Do you think we could eat proper food and pay our monthly rent with $10 a fucking day?

Except most Americans are actually in favor of raising minimum wage and taxing the rich

See? Proved my point exactly. Somebody mentions giving proportionate burden to memebers of society who can easily bear that burden and a brainwashed American comes in SHRIEKING about "MUH COMMUNISTS!". Fucking hilarious. What a useful idiot. Keep on arguing against your own interests user. I'm sure it'll pay off someday when you too become an elite billionaire!

>Fail to mention they work more hours to compensate.
The absolute state of unironic Commies.

>new york
>white

Isn't enough?

I make $13/hr for part time work i do, it's not bad since im still in grad school and have a side gig but even so, if i were pulling that full time, i could not afford to live in even a small 1 bedroom place on my own
The cost of living has gone up but wages haven't
It's just late stage capitalism, the system will implode in on itself in the next 50 years

>Be American
>Be Democrat
>Support open borders and illegals storming into your own country as you please
>Notice that the wage is as low as the core of the earth
>protest to raise the minimum wage
>still want illegals to run rampant in the country, absolutely clueless that the illegals damage the wages by working for lower wages than americans

Oh, and to top it off, Trump himself wants to make sure that more immigrants enter America more than ever... Legally... So yeah, wages are going to go down down down down and down.

Basically, in a couple of decades time, America will probably be close to being a 3rd world country. Or at least, we're gonna turn into a country where only 1% of the peoples control 99% of the wealth.

>rosalina

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>White people dont live in TN.
I had 4 black people in my HS. The only Black dominate city I can think of is Memphis and there are still plenty of Whites

Regulations.

video games

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you cant really live off that in certain areas in america, anywhere rural its fine.

>dude min wage lol

If faggots picked up one economics book, socialism would die tommorow

which means his statement that they are brainwashed by propaganda is true

Anyone advocating for a minimum wage has outed themselves as an utter retard.

My car insurance alone cost almost your monthly net. Fuck off, third worlder.

>if you advocate for any amount of economic change then you will literally turn the most powerful and wealthy nation to have ever existed into a shithole over night. The only answer is to let the rich do whatever they want and never ever question anything about the system
if something like socialized healthcare is communist then are germany and the UK commies?

>eating pizza with a fork

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most people in the world dont make $18 working a whole day
americans are such crybabies

>businessmen never do anything but they get all the money
That's just something that dumb incompetent poorfags say to try and cope. I've worked in many industries in my life and I've seen many of the """working""" class do jack shit.

15 dollars an hour really isn't that bad if you don't live in New York or California or pretty much any of the super expensive places to live. And besides that the people who need more can seek out jobs above 18 dollars an hour, since they are just as easy to find as the jobs below 50% according to this article.

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You presume there is an electable political party in the US that actually would actually be in favor of the reverse of this graph. There really isn't, the Democrats want to do stuff like this too, only slower and slightly more politely while simultaneously trying to pass obnoxious gun control laws. May as well vote GOP or independent if you're going to vote at all.

>actually working in the current year

lmaoing at your lives stupid wagies

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European reporting in, I make 5.25€ / $5.95 per hour, and work 8 hours (spend 9 hours at the office but that one fucking full lunch hour doesn't count), and this is in the upper average at least in my country

Im from the US but the food prices in canada are quite literally DOUBLE what you'd pay in the US. REnt is higher in canada, the housing market is inflated by chinks stealing money from their government and buying property there, and everyone makes so much more money to cover the FUCKED costs of food and housing in canada because the chinks inflated the housing markets.

The reason the US is SO GOOD is because everythign is cheap here. I pay 5 bucks for smokes, two dollars a gallon in gas, and my rent's like, 600 a month.

Compare that to canada, or california for a more local estimate where retards are paying 2k a month for rent and only making 60k a year.

I support the $15 min wage. I also think that if your getting paid 15 right now you deserve a raise too. Everyone should get a raise.

>BuT THeN EvErY ThInG WoUlD RaIsE iN PriCe

Put in price controls then

Come on new bike

>knowing that corrupt liar-ahem-lawyers make less than my parents
I'm glad I read your post today my man

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Exactly. Ignorant idiots who believe what they want to hear.
>You have nothing of value to contribute to society but want hundreds of highly trained specialists to provide goods and services to you? They won't just do that in exchange for some poorly made sandwiches? MARKET FAILURE!!!

It's definitely not theft, as most of what you're using is the property of the sovereign state. Everything from the technologies that were developed by the state, from the currency they support. If you don't like it, you're free to take your business to another country.
Taxation can only be theft if it's done by an outside force. If you live in a city state and another decides to tax you for "protection", then that is indeed theft (mostly because they're the ones that will attack you after, lol).

People literally do choose to work as waiters you stupid faggot. They could be plumbers, electeicians, or prostitutes but they chose not to be.

How come these off-topic threads are more entertaining than normal vidya threads?

Nigger I make 5.1eur per hour as a delivery guy + tips and 0.4eur extra per delivery and I'm Spanish. Where the fuck do you live?

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>pic
/pol/ is always right.

>everyone makes 1 dollar an hour
>thing costs 1 dollar for an hour of low skilled work

>everyone makes 18 dollars an hour
thing costs 18 dollars for an hour of low skilled work

Really makes me think...

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Gee, maybe there's a better board for you to discuss it on then?

>Food Prices in Canada
Go back to /pol/ user. I just ate Prosciutto and Provolone Ravioli with Shrimp in Alfredo sauce for dinner last night. Cost me $20 total and it fed two people with leftovers remaining in the fridge.

Is /pol/ raiding this morning or something?
Go back to your containment board incels, we have video game shit posting to get back to

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>I make 5.25€ / $5.95 per hour
Romania? Bulgaria?

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m.imgur.com/gallery/sjSjn1v

Muh bootstraps.

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what do you think is more likely, immigrants willing to pick fruit for 5$ and hour are the ones depressing the wages of low end salary workers or the ones that employ them? Your model sounds very convincing at first but it assumes way too much and is overly simplistic. Immigration likely has some affect on some wages but to claim it is the main factor making the difference across the board is comically absurd

Meant for

What a stupid comment. Big government doesn't mean either left or right. And of course there should be higher taxes, because redistribution is a necessity in any civilized society. Most of the bureaucratic work done by bloated governments will be automated in the upcoming decades, so there's none of that to worry about.

(((1%)))

TAX. THE. RICH.

There is now a shortage of everything you price controlled. I presume this includes food, medical supplies, and other necessities. People are rioting and demanding their needs be met. How do you proceed?

My solution to solving poverty in US: stop throwing 30 billion dollars on Israel every few years and spend these money on student grants. They will get an education, start working, economy will grow and everyone will get paid more.

>price controls

>buisness supplying the product leaves to a non price controlled country that doesn't have taxes out the ass to cover the increased wage and the mass unemployment as employers and small buisness can't cover the wage.

your move, you communist fuck

what next will you say

>JUST MAKE IT ILLEGAL FOR THE BUISNESS TO LEAVE

They are raised to believe that if they go to college for drawing pictures and reading books, they will live a comfortable life.

Why are you faggots like this, we're litteraly trying to save the human race.

Rollin like it’s Dark Souls

A'ight let's do this.

Because Yea Forums is always tired of it's own shit
Go to /pol/ and make a vidya thread, or hell even Yea Forums
Off topic is always fun but jannies are hit and miss with how they delete them
Ones like this, meant to stir up controversy and illicit a response are low tier bait but going to other boards and asking what their favorite [insert media] is here is fun
Like, try going to /s/ and asking what their favorite RPG is

In my country the minimum wage is around 6 dollars an hour, even accounting the exchange to euros 18$ an hour is a very decent salary unless you plan to live on a big city in a big apartment.

Taxation is not theft as it allows you to fund stuff that will benefit you. However, bad use of the taxes (for example, make sex change operations and abortions free thanks to social security or corruption) is even worse than theft.

>Republicans are all overpaid morons who preach for smaller government while never actually accomplishing this goal
>Democrats are all overpaid morons who preach free shit while never actually accomplishing this goal
They honestly don't give a shit. The whole dichotomy is an illusion pushed by the elite to cause retards to fight with each other instead of targeting those who are actually the problem. I'm just gonna vote for the ones who let less brown people in even if they lie about it.

that would cost me ten in america you canadian faggot

Same country actually, but I work as help desk so it's to be expected to get paid this much, or little

>I understand how economics and ethics work, so I vote for lower taxes and less govt.
Funniest post in this thread. Good joke, my dude.

>lots of people are poor
>can a billionaire help?

How did the state come upon this property if not by theft? Allowing the people access to things they stole from the people centuries ago is not a legitimate service.

Immigration has nothing to do with lower wages, dumbass. God, why are rightwingers so fucking stupid? Like I seriously wonder this. You wouldn't catch me saying something so fucking idiotic without researching it first to see that there's even the slightest chance I'm right, but you fuckers just take anything that sounds right to be right, without researching anything. Fuck.

the US and canada are both really big places. I think you are overgeneralizing pretty hard here. Plenty of places in the US are expensive as fuck and rural canada is plenty cheap

>Capitalism = marxism
Many rich people were once wagies, until they realised that putting in work to make your boss rich is pointless and became their own boss

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