KurtzPel closed beta, what did you all learn? I learned that korean is a shit language, and should be exterminated...

KurtzPel closed beta, what did you all learn? I learned that korean is a shit language, and should be exterminated, japan did nothing wrong.

also it feels like anime vindictus, with more bdo style combat.

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It was shit

Its okay right now but its doomed to a terrible demise
>gear affecting pvp
>f2p
>no containment server for brs

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Why the fuck would you make a pvp focused mmo with such an emphasis on gearing?

Looks cool
>google
>korean
Oh
>Mmo
no. Why can't Koreans just make a normal game for once holy shit.

>>gear affecting pvp
>pvp focused mmo with such an emphasis on gearing?

so like every kmmo?

why did i even let this game get my hopes up at all
mmorpg is a dead genre and that will never change no matter how many times you hear "ooh but look at this one coming out soon though"

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DFO is the only good mmo, and the 3d one could be good

>korean f2p tps with melee and ranged combat and a focus on small team pvp but also has pve
i want gunz2 back. why did no one play it

>Why did nobody play a shitty game that removed everything good from the first game
Yeah okay

i tried getting into dfo and it just didnt stick with me for whatever reason, might consider giving it another go soon though
also the 3d one is >nexon and will most likely be a steaming pile of shit

>>>I want gunz2 back
lol

>why did no one play it
because it was shit

>INSTANCE BASED HUB
>GOOD
the story is kinda meh, the only thing enjoyable is that the cut scenes render the npc naked before the cloths.

You never learn, do you

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I want mabinogi 2.0 that is before g9 where nexon killed mabinogi's soul.

just play mabipro if you want nostalgia trip

It has favorite version of the fistfighter class so far and I can get the holy grail combination of actually visible ab definition and huge tits. Shame about almost everything else.

Everyone was young once.

I learned that Koreans are terrible at optimization. Sure the game's in beta, but fucking hell I didnt expect the lobby to run at 20 FPS.

>Brs
>Lag everywhere
>No content
>Archers and Wizard faggots doing 80% of your HP
>P2w imminent
>Bad optimization

This game has red flags everywhere

steamcommunity.com/gid/103582791463844945#announcements/detail/1773760074712234575

>red flags everywhere
does it have a RNG-based gear upgrade system?
If the answer is yes, abandon all hope

no RNG, thankfully, well, so far anyway

any other games like this but better? its my first time playing this kind of game, whats the genre called?

>Lag everywhere
>Bad optimization
works fine on my machine but i agree with the other things

The 2d one is also nexon my dude, just be happy that neople skip nexon na when it comes to global releases

mine hovers between 8,999fps and 40fps, its never stable

>whats the genre called
korean shovelware

This game makes me miss Dragon Nest
All these shovelware action mmos make me miss dragon nest
I didn't even get to play it at a high level since there wasn't a server within a thousand miles of me but it was by far the most fun combat and pvp I've ever played in an mmo

at least i can play as a cute girl with gauntlets
more games need to do that

more games need these kmmo character creators

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3D: Vindictus, Kritika, Dragon's Nest
2/2.5D: Elsword, DFO, Closers

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now which of these are actually worth playing

literally the only good thing so far

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she looks like that slut from Working!!

>tie clipping
delete this

>Dragon's Nest
did that one finally die? I remember it being pretty fun though

>add breast slider
>everything clips if you set it above minimum
nice

different hair and eye color

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Any of them, I would say Elsword is the worst of the 2d options, and Krit is the oldest looking but still plays great.

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I never got into it, it was super old, pretty sure even if any official server is dead there's more than likely a private server up somewhere.

Can you play them by yourself or will there be a point where the enemies become too strong for solo?
I miss early Grandchase

close enough

They all have an easy early game where you are going to be soloing, but they reach a point where you're either gud or you realize you need help.
Kritika has some tough bosses from the start, and Vindictus gets tough around level 50 (out of 95)

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Pile of garbage that removed the only redeeming feature the game had and with it ALL the fun, and ALL the depth , fucking devs what were they thinking

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>brs in charge of being organized
monkeys hhehe im rank C now yay

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Just like every other Korean MMO that isn't DFO or Maplestory, it's just a good character creator attached to rather generic action gameplay.

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slut

Those two games are also fucking awful though?

Looks cool
I wonder if one day we will get a a dev that won't shit the bed with the genre

I'm not saying they are good, but they at least aren't generic.

>Korean
Why anyone expected something remotely passable is beyond me.

>took everyone literally 1 day to figure out the bullshit combos
well that was fast.

oh well
I enjoyed these last 8 hours

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And some closers

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Which of these including the OP are worth playing?
I want a fun MMO but everytime I try one it just sucks or is dead as fuck.

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oh you're one of those capture the flag players.
fucking lol

hey i pvp too !

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Everything is dead, you're being unrealistic. Go play Apex.

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Okay, which one is the most fun to play solo then huh?

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hey anons. just played kurtzpel for about 2 hours. seems cool so far. never really played anything with this kinda combat so its semi fresh to me. only real gripe about it is i can't figure out if there's a way to either delete my char, or remake them. give it a whirl if you get the chance.

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rebirth on character select lets you redo your characters appearance

>kurac Pel
Well, the name said it all.

>generic korean action MMORPG

yawn

call me when someone decides to make a cool sandbox MMO like Ragnarok

thanks vro

on the character selection screen there is a rebirth option that lets you redo your character pretty sure it will be a premium feature when the game releases though

I wish we had "apexfield" and not apex BR. I get bored of BR really fast.

I love you Crowe

>apexfield
thats called titanfall 2
please play it

What can I expect?

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maintenance

cute panties

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i'll play it if it ever goes f2p

How did you download it? It only says early access but doesn't give me the option to download.

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people stunlocking your to death with better skills and people abusing how faster sword/bow is

Vindictus is probably the most satisfying to play since it requires you to use your defensive options, bosses are more interactable, i.e. you can have a back and forth of stunning them/enraging them, rather than most games them just not reacting at all or being super-armored all the time. Kritika is similar, but they tend to have an armor bar you have to tear through and then you get free combo time on them, something Kurtz took. The webm is me breaking the boss' armor and you see him taking hitstun. The vid is Karok from Vindi getting his clash, which is pretty much an Uber-parry which lets him and his team get free hits, and makes you feel like a beast.

youtu.be/-oK0_dYT5n8

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stop being retarded user
kurtzpel.com/?page_id=6455&lang=en

It's a closed beta, I literally just googled it and found multiple sites giving out keys

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Same
Maybe the success of apex will make titanfall 2 f2p until 3 comes out

Sorry am tard. Thx

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its like £5 you jew

Typical floaty Korean janky combat. Wait for the DFO sequel. From what we saw in the trailer there’s actual weight to the combat and you see enemies stagger.

that ass looks kinda weird

This, Project BBQ looks legit.
it's going to be killed by a stamina system

I hope they have the class variety from the original, I've been wanting a sequel to Kritika and that might be it.
Also I hope to god they figured out how to optimize, because fuck those koreans suck shit at that.

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>Wait for the DFO sequel
Or I can play this while waiting for that

yeah it isn't in my mouth

neat
youtube.com/watch?v=1RG8Y254L5Q

>sword
sure, bow.
but sword? it's probably the worst of the 4 weapons in the game right now.

based

jelly ass is a korean classic

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WHY DOES THE STOMACH LOOK SO FUCKING ODD ON FEMALES

>odd
id lick the shit out of that stomach

They just sent me a key thx for helping the tardo

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for a pvp game why doesn't it have more modes. the pve is laughable too, how are they expecting people to spend more than an hour playing this game in end game

When will maintenance be over?

should be done in 15 minutes.

i think you meant maintanance

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>cel shaded
how can you like this?

whats wrong with cell shading? i like it

>inb4 he thinks black outlines is cel shading.

It's up again

Me too ;)

>tfw cant decide on big titty or small titty

>still clinging to the mmo meme in the year 2019
come on, anons...
it will never come back

how about medium titty?

shut up and let me keep torturing myself

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big titty

The opinion cutscene is really dumb and it makes basically no sense.

Can I make a cute boy in this or are only the girls good looking?

>so like every kmmo?
Blade & Soul is a PVP MMO and gear only works in the retarded battleground afterthought thing.
The real pvp (including official tournaments) take place entirely in the structured PvP arena

just tried and you can sort of make cute boy bodies but the head/face doesn't really match at all

It used to get said a lot and I used to laugh about it but they were right.
There's just no ambition anymore. It wasn't enough that people just recycled mmo ideas they've gone even cheaper and lazier than that, opting for rooty tooty hide n shooty knock offs and mobile apps.

oh no what combos?

Hate how the character customization in these kinda games always only boils down to being able to change the hair, eyes, and boobs. Give me more options!

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kurtzpel isn't really an mmo, feels like a lobby based boss rush with pvp tacked on, i say tacked on because pvp is unbalanced bullshit and seems like has comob stuns that just fuck you.

blade and soul the only kr mmo with good pvp.

how the fuck do you stop those niggers in CTF who just spam dodge
you cant ever catch up with them
the match is over as soon as one team picks up the flag

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>i cant make my tranny!
get fucked

BOW

the fuck do you mean BOW
>try shooting anyone
>they run behind stuff so nothing hits them

you okay son?

Why are the subtitles constantly switching between korean and english

shoot them when they aren't behind stuff genius

THATS ALL THEY DO THOUGH

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koreans want to make sure you don't know what's going on

it's a beta

then CTF is a dead pvp mode stop playing it.

>have to get rank B to get meme cosmetic item
>everyone i pvp bow spams me when i just want to use my 2h sword
okay whatever

the first skill you start with can go directly over walls, you also get a silencing arrow which goes over walls at some point
mage blizzard also goes over walls, same with gravity well
don't forget you have a dash as well as a roll for movement options

>constant clipping on everything
>subs don't know if they are supposed to be in korean or in english
>story makes absolutely no sense
>20fps in the hub area
I dunno guys i'm not really feeling it

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>want to use gauntlets
>constant 20ft gap between me and xxlégólásxx at all times

play the bow/fist or mage/fist meta if you want to rank up
sword is the worst of the weapons starting out

This looks like shit compared to Vindictus or BDO.

did they reduce the number of channels? before maintenance there was a lot now there is only 3

just b urself

>finally an mmo where i can be a cute girl with big fist weapons
>pve is just ranged kiting
>pvp is stun stun stun
>pc makes train sounds in lobby
>shit story
>everything feels clunky as fuck even for a beta
every time

Yes

>cute girl with big fist weapons
Tera has that as a class

>gameforge
not willing to play on 200 ping for the US version

>stamina meme

the dark souls of kmmos

Just beat the first 3 starting missions and it's just fucking awful, do no good korean mmo's exist?

is this even an mmo?

no

i though it was cause my shit pc thanks user.

>be in a single room
>multiple people
>do a mission
>random is in it, idk how
>this is mmo
>lobby instance mmo

no it doesn't feel like an mmo

I have a high end PC and it still runs at 20fps in the lobby.
When in a mission it runs at 120fps capped.

This game is even less fun than Anthem somehow

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Even the in-game text looks like an ESL was hired to translate everything.

lower shadows, it kills fps for w/e reason

The male voices also don't match with the bodies. God, why couldn't they let the japs do their on dub on it instead of giving us the korean garbage.

Why is voice based on character height? Why not just let us pick between them ourselves jesus

>20fps in the lobby.
must not be that high end since the lowest mine has dropped in the lobby was 35 fps and most of the time its at 45 or 60 fps

the 2d one used to be nexon until they ran the global version into the ground
it's been free from nexon for a while now
and don't you get nitpicky and say that the devs themselves are owned by nexon, there's a difference between what they've done and how the game was when nexon was managing NA

Is it still worth getting into DFO (or maybe closers if that's better) now or just wait for the 3d one?

The game is just that unoptimized.

>why couldn't they let the japs do their on dub on it instead of giving us the korean garbage
people keep whining about racism in the u.s. but they have no idea how much east asians all hate each other.

>I wasted a hour of my life on this garbage
god dammit Yea Forums i'm never listening to you again

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what made you quit?

Bye

i just want rank B and go back to sleep till something good comes out. . . . . or phantasy star universe clementine goes live

Gameplay is generic and the stamina ruins it
Story is absolute nonsense, it doesn't understand how to tell you anything nor is there any pacing
PvE is boring kiting
PvP is a terrible gamemode and just stunlocking people
Game is unoptimized mess, runs like shit in the hub

I can't find any soul in this game, it's just so by the numbers
>oh there is character customization
>oh there is a hub
>oh there are missions where you kill enemies
>oh there is a "story"
>oh there is pvp
When every single aspect of the game doesn't go deeper than a single sentences describing the basics you know it's just bad.

any tips i've lost every pvp game i've been in so far

>no containment server for brs
Oh, that's too bad. Guess you guys will have to share the server with me eauheuaehu

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it was fucking terrible holy shit
I even used god knows how many emails to get a code

>like the female mature voice
>prefer the teenage body type

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Stop making sexual with monkeys.

AHHHHWHY AM I SO BAD AT THIS GAME

>If you are melee, dont fight archers / mages head on, go behind obstacles and slowly make your way to them.
>Save your iframes to dodge their BS charge moves
>Learn one class really well before doing advanced dual class combos, as a melee pick as many gap closing skills
>If you have access to launch skills, use launch skills to push your opponent to narrow areas of the map! As a melee, you got a big advantage in these situations.
>Chain skills, this is the only way that you can deal any damage
>If you are able, partner with someone because going into pvp with randoms can be difficult to get a win
>Stall as much as possible, try to heal if you are able! Archers and Mages are only good at kiting you not chasing so you are naturally faster on foot.

I probably missed a couple but this is the big picture

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>Cant use anymore skills or move because everything uses stamina and you need stamina crystals
>every time you run out of stamina, which is every 10 seconds becaue again even auto attacks use stamina, a game shop page pops up asking you if you want to buy stamina crystals with real money
nice game you got there
also outfits and accessories give you small power ups so its gonna be p2w as fuck

How do i buy stamina crystals?

looks fine but your first point is 100% wrong, anyone who knows what they're doing on mage/bow will use skills to hit you behind barricades, you have to compete with your own range then swap to melee when appropriate

but im bad at ranged

You can easily dodge those skills and whenever they do that they use up their resources which is what you want. From my experience fighting them head on, I get kited and if the mage is good they will end up nuking me before i reach them so yeah.. the only way that I have managed to beat good archer/mages is by abusing obstacles. I must admit that there are these rare situations where its a Mage/Sword and those players are outright insane to beat. I feel like those doing Mage/Archer havent found out about how broken Mage/Sword is.

that's why I mentioned you have to compete with them at ranged, then swap, because like you said, it's nearly impossible to fight melee into ranged head on
also ranged/mage is very risky because you have nothing to swap to for damage mitigation

that's fine user but bow is meta for a reason

fuck pvp best weapons for pve?

so its bow=staff>>>fist>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>sword ?

actually it's the reverse

zzzzzzz

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the character models looking this shitty can't be intentional, holy shit.

>thousands of HP bars
>hundreds of separate floating damage numbers
for what purpose?

>Start game
>not even a minute into the starting cutscene we get a fucking title drop
>"YOU! YOU'RE IN LEAGUE WITH KURTZPEL, BRINGER OF CHAOS!"

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can't they decide how to spell their own game

>playing for 5 hours and still havent run into that cat slut
i keep getting the stupid glasses girl and i need the cat slut because im using the staff

i feel like it's fucking random for some shitty reason

It's garbage, not even worth a fap.

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>Bust fullness

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tight bra or braless meter i'd guess?

The combat is fucking asssssssssssssssssssssssssssss, even worse that they don't tell you about half of the fucking skills your class can do. Nearly every class gets a special move if they charge up tier 1 of their right click hold, then dash and charge up again. Wizard gets fucking FOUR NEW MOVES depending on what direction you dash. What fucking horse shit is that.

all of the moves are under the weapn screen but its a clusterfuck to understand on KB/M

i really enjoyed it but there's not enough to do

I was done with all the missions in under 2 hours. really disappointing. pvp is also just a joke since you can literally go afk in conquest, come back in the last 30 seconds, and win. ctf is retarded because your dash has a shorter cooldown if you're not using it to combo break, and as you basically just avoid fighting, you can move around faster than people trying to attack you. it's like a really bad joke, the whole game is just awful.
also the designer and localizer both deserve urethral soundings with rusty nail files for raping the brand of grand chase claiming this turd is in the same world.

>I learned that korean is a shit language
Easier to learn writing than Japanese, let alone chinese.

Fag, OP's obviously talking about korean spoken.

Might as well play black desert online if you want to fap.

Doesn't change the fact that it sounds like complete shit.

OP is a man of taste, fuck korea

Nah, it isn't all that hard either, but easier than japanese.
I completely agree.

>Nah, it isn't all that hard either, but easier than japanese.
I meant to say harder than japanese.

This, I don't get why people are suddenly so into korean things like kpop and shit

>Spoken
Japanese > korean > chinese
>Written
Korean > japanese >chinese

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What? Are you going from easiest to hardest or hardest to easiest?

because it makes an attempt to appeal to western sensibilities, and korean folks are less awful than japanese as a standard. Also they're not stuck in the 80s in terms of technology outside vidya and phones.
>japan still uses fucking fax machines
>and beepers
laff
Really though jap tv sucks, it's all variety show garbage, koreans have actual structured dramas and comedies. jap music has blended into generic uguu pop and jrock (which is fine), kpop is more in tune with standard american musical tastes. the girl/boy groups are far more palatable to americans than massive idol groups who can't sing and are borderline child exploitation rings that japan pushes.

>kpop is more in tune with standard american musical tastes
Ah so that's why it's so fucking shit.

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>and korean folks are less awful than japanese as a standard
I care to differ, but none of them are as bad as the chinese.

Is being archer/mage viable? feels like you get destroyed

Yes, you just need to destroy others before they destroy you.

it's also why it's relevant the world over meanwhile everyone grew out of liking jpop 20 years ago.

guess i need practice then. What about fist/sword?

The last time I tried a kMMO, it went like this
>Spend some time making a character
>Yeah let's play video games now
>Get into the tutorial
>Do the first fight
>Sit there and contemplate why every kMMO feels the exact same
>Uninstall
Yet I will probably still end up trying this garbage.

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Fists are really good in PvP, if you know how to combo well. Swords are complete trash, don't even bother. But I guess there will be some major balance changes after CBT.

>try out fist weapons
>charge attack is a grab
>while grabbing you can slam the target into the ground multiple times

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fist's charge move on right click is incredibly, INCREDIBLY powerful in pvp. you'll do 30k easy on a full combo. sword has a gamebreaking spinning move that stops anyone from even getting close to you in ctf. also if you're in fist karma and charge up, you get a dash when you release the charge, and move faster than the "slow" you have with the flag while charging, so you can outrun anyone.

I don't really think so just because you have no damage mitigation with that setup.

might be fun but no range is killer on some maps, you'll be kited to death.

That's exactly what it felt like, in fact this kMMO manages to make the whole experience surrounding the gameplay way worse than it usually is.

as far as pve this shit is better than other garbage action MMOs because you dont spend 90% of your time fighting mobs of brainless trash enemies

instead you fight the same 4 bosses over and over and over. Much better, right? Wrong. They don't even get new fucking moves throughout the 5 fucking difficulties, they just get more hp and do more damage to you.
retarded.

>land a fully charged charge sword combo
>boss loses 75% health
holy fuck i know it's an early mission but goddamn this feels good

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Regulations and shitty business practices.

>this garbage is better than other garbage
Outside of the fact that the game has combos I don't get it at all, it's not fun or interesting.

yeah actually it is much better than fighting what might as well be reskins for 10000 hours faggot

>go to practice yard limited combos
>leave practice yard
>go to menu screen all the combos
>cant see all the combos in practice yard
who makes decisions like these?

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You have pretty dam low standards huh

have you played an mmo in the past decade?

I learned that OP has some kinda deep hatred for Korea for some reason, and could have been left out.

But yeah I'm loving the game ATM. Wish PvE had more than just boss fights.
PvP could use more modes. A lot more modes.

or i can just enjoy a simple shitty boss fighting game for a few hours without being a bitter faggot

standards have nothing to do with it but keep trying to make yourself feel special for not liking a videogame

Hey can someone do me a favor and take a printscreen of the combos they can see in the practice yard with fist weapons?

is there Battle Royale mode? hard pass if there isn't

>whats the genre called?

Soulless gook garbage

with how much of a cluster fuck pvp is, there really should be, you should suggest that to them. No real reason they don't have a BR mode.

so since you can only mod your weapon 5 times is the best way to do it to unlock 2 karma slots, 1 sub karma slot, and 2 performace or what?

Sag or no sag

Show me the weapon you are using mine only has 3 upgrades and my karma slots are open, i feel like you got fucked

No because they are all shit, hell this shit doesn't even qualify as a fucking MMO.
Fucking Destiny is more of an MMO than this shit, having up to 50 players in a hub channel doesn't make it an MMO in any way.

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>Button menu says hold
HOW FUCKING LONG DO I HOLD?

Yea no idea why they called it an mmo honestly, it feels like a boss rush weeb game with pvp tacked on to sell cash items.

Go eat your sopa de macaco uma delicia in your fucking favela, bitch

but i like both archer and mage...

im not using the rookie weapons but the other ones you get so staff of moonlight and royal guards gauntlets

I don't have those mayne how you get em

you can play it if you want user, pick what's fun.

I am just getting destroyed in pvp..I want to be good :

any nigga who uses fists here? how come i can do the charge and grab thing on training grounds but not on a pvp?

todays login reward gave you weapons with 5 available upgrades

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Went to several sites and couldn't find one that didn't run out. It looks like such a fun game too...

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>All these pussies complaining about the PvP
>Waah stunlocking lasts forever
>Waah combos are too long
>But also stamina is a bad mechanic
>I want to just be able to hit the enemy forever while they cannot hit me
>Waah bow is broken

Hahaha how is stunlocking even real like just press shift nigga lmao goddamn
Witch is where it's at, bowshitters.
FR tho, seeing your teammate getting double-teamed, casting the blizzard spell and slowing both of your enemies while seeing those sweet numbers show up is fucking rad.

dont upgrade that shit, wait for the last login reward

it works, they are just breaking away from it by using dodge you can use a follow-up skill to grapple them back though

not having any issues with it, might be poor connection on your end or something

>c rank

That KoG is a one trick game developer that only knows how to make half decent games when they're 2d side scrollers, the mechanics don't translate well into 3d, the game is garbage.

Neople is just as shit and jewish as Nexon is, DFO is not worth playing at all, Closers is a better game both in gameplay and monetization but to that effect you'll run out of shit to do way faster and get bored.

That unironically looks like garbage.

I won my first pvp match, and then I quit the game because it's just not fun.
1 hour of gameplay (most of which was in the creation screen) is more than enough for me to drop the game hard.

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>He thinks unga bunga smoothbrain breakers stop running into your spells just because you're above c rank

just ask the website dude

pvp isn't fun
how do i win in pvp

Stamina is a bad mechanic because the game instead of properly balancing it's combat just uses stamina as a crutch for that.
Demon's Souls had a stamina bar to make the game risk reward, it works in souls because it is slow paced with high commitment combat.
It doesn't work if you just create a generic mmo action game and slap some stamina on it as a way to stop people from stunlocking everything.

I know its CBT but I wish there was team chat so I can call my tam8 a retard
Protip in pvp go for the fucking guy carrying the flag

what does exchange CP on the weapon mean? does it mean i can get all the CP back?

>closers
>gameplay
tried it when it first came out and holy shit I don't know what people see in it yet they recommend it everywhere

cp?

who the fuck is gonna 2v1 when there's a mage up, literally asking to eat a double fireball hit

the low level gameplay used to be garbage and was only good at high levels, but they've since changed how the skill system works and you can now cancel and aerial your skills from the start, those are core mechanics you used to only get once you were deep into the game

it gives you CP and send your info to the FBI
get free CPs with the extra costume that they gave you

its what you use to upgrade your weapons

like this?

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>Unga bunga smoothbrain breakers
Read the post my dude
Literally just knowing your skills and how the game works will get you to c rank, easily. Try your best not to get hit by a big combo unless you have your Dodge up (the skill on your shift bind, you have a normal Dodge that you can do any time, and a "get out of combo" skill bound to shift that's ok a cooldown). You have a dash too, by pressing a direction twice in quick succession, though I can barely get it to work sometimes. Each character has different launchers and combos, go to training mode and try experimenting with different buttons to find shit that isn't listed, as well as it's utility (mage has an unlisted skill when you hit m1 and then m2, she does like a lightning thing and I still don't have a use for it).
Exploit the fucking Ults. IDK about anyone if them except the mage one, but if you can hit w it it does a shit ton of damage, and it's really easy to land.
You can do it user. Be the big tiddy PvP God I know you can be.

Capture the flag annoys me. Deathmatch is fun.

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After playing this game my day is ruined and I don't wanna do anything anymore
Recommend me some games that may make my day better.

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yeah exchange all of your gear and costumes :)

That's fair. CTF seems to be whoever gets the flag first has a huge advantage because if they have two brain cells to rub together then they'll never drop the fucking thing, but the initial battle to get the flag can be pretty tense. Ive only had one game where the score chase was even close, both teams went back and forth on the flag but in the end the team that got it first still won anyway.

Koreans are the one group of asians who actually use a logical writing system. How is that bad?

this
>get flag first
>spam dodge button until you have enough points to win

>Literally just knowing your skills and how the game works
so it's impossible for me okay

how did it ruin your day user?

CTF is the only relatively balanced game mode because flag chasing and flag defending is just rubbing two braincells. If you can carry it all the way without anyone interrupting you it's really more the attackers being retarded given how any melee karma can jump you with your lower speed and while you're getting comboed or plainly distracted either staff or bow can charge up and remove most of your hp. Still the amount of area control on the DPS karmas is retarded, just shit some blizzard on the flag bro from half the map away.

Deathmatch is loopsided cause all breaker karmas get btfo especially on that map. It's just stupid how the strongest attacks from slayers are full map fast moving projectiles. You don't even need breakers to deal your big damage, you just shoot distracted enemies. It's especially stupid since two ranged karma will stomp two melee karma due to them being able to abuse all those insta hitting ranged attacks until one breaks and then just delete the poor guy when he gets on cooldown.

It was just so generically bland that I'm just sitting here listening to music with no will to do anything anymore.

>I can't read
I'm so sorry user, I had no idea...

Is this even an MMO?
It has an hub for ERPing but the game is just some battlegrounds for PvP and some joke PvE single boss fights

I've managed to run it back once after an initial setback, but yeah ctf seems to be largely won by the first scuffle if they aren't absolutely braindead.
I don't know about other classes, but I feel like a goddamn rockstar though if my partner gets it and I just run defense as monk.
If I wasn't going against king crimson every other match I'd probably like pvp more in general. The basics are there for me to enjoy it, I just get bugged by little shit.

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CTF isn't balanced either tho
>fight near flag
>first team to kill the other grabs the flag
>then the flag owner just dashes away and shoots ranged attacks for the entire match until he wins
You or your teammate have to be literally retarded to lose after grabbing the flag

even if i read all the moves il forget them and i don't know how this game works, it's got a stamina bar 3 dodges i mean im just not that into it.
it's mmo in the sense it's multiplater

You just fucking close on him. He is slower and if he spams dash that doesn't work half the time due to lag he will run out of stamina. If he uses ranged attacks just roll through them. You can stall but you will finally fall sooner or later.

post your characters

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>you have a normal Dodge that you can do any time
nani? i thought the shift one was the only dodge

The first M of MMO means Massive.
4 players in an instance is not massive
50 player hub area is not massive
Battle Royales aren't MMOs and those have 100 people in one instanced match, so why would this be when it's gameplay only involves a handful of people? There is nothing massive about the game at all.
>roll through them
>teammate hits him instead
It's 2v2, not 1v1 dude.

Korean devs are legally forced to implement gameplay restrictions for avoid some korea kid dies from playing a game no stop for 200 hours
The laziest just use Stamina system like it is a mobile game but also are the most asshole because they will try in every way they can to sell you stamina packs, just like in a mobile game

what would you call it then tough guy?

Can I make a big ugly fat guy that looks like he ran away from some twisted gachi video?

Just remove the massive from MMO and you get Multiplayer Online game.

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based

Breakers aren't supposed to do damage, are they? The melee classes I'm p sure are supposed to distract/lockdown characters with long combos, taking them out of the game for a longer time or allowing your ranged character to apply debufs/dps. Their combos do almost no damage compared to the ranged one's, that's intentional. I do think the ranged one's are objectively better due to how easy it is to escape combos vs how hard it is to hit with them, especially using melee, but if they just made the combos a bit more consistent then it'd probably be okay.
>See sword bro combo-ing/getting combo'd on
>Hit E
>Turn the 20m radius around him into the fucking ice age
>Enemies have taken more damage than they've done because they finished the combo

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You can double tap a movement key (WASD) to dash and then sorint for a second or two, you can hit shift to dodge, but the dodge has an i-frame/combo escape version of it that's on a cooldown, look at the lower left of your screen and check it out when you hit shift.

It's not just double tap, you gotta tap and then hold to actually dash.

Why does it look like a rich man's RWBY?

How can I get in on this?

I read like the first 5 posts bitching about gear grind PvP.


I FUCKING LOVE GEAR GRIND PVP.

I will grind for MONTHS to be able to have godlike gear and use it to shit on low level zones.

Please tell me how to get in on this shit!

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Kill yourself.

RWBY is Western weeaboo wannabe trash, this is Korean weeaboo wannabe trash. It's one step higher on the ladder, and at least this game is fun, unlike Grimm Eclipse.

The PvP is matchmade 2v2 instances, there is no zone pvp nor is there actually zones to begin with, it's all instanced arenas you go into from a hub.

don't change your trip you fucking retard.

>It's 2v2, not 1v1 dude.
You have the other guy too. Worst case if he absolutely can't just jump over the other guy for short 2vs1, he can at least combo him for a bit.
Yeah the melee combos just keep getting destroyed due to some terrain blocking air chase, or just a bit of lag shifting the timing too much. Overall if you have two ranged karmas you can still stunlock too easy with skills that are instant AoE dumps like the arrow rain or blizzard and then cash for double. It wouldn't be as much as a problem if those skills weren't notorious going through walls and had this much ranged for undodgeable surprise. Overall the breakers are the less important part of the game seeing how many double ranged setups I see do well versus double melee which almost not exist and get dunked on.

Then there is the problem that Slayers can cash in on you getting combo'd or your comboing both, and that's from entire map away whereas Breaker needs to be close to save your ass from combo and might eat some too.

Well, dropped I guess.

Sad fucking day.

Back to refreshing Yea Forums till something else appears.

Why not?

Well arrow rain and blizzard are supposed to go over and behind walls I think, they're an aoe circle. There's no reason that if I'm shooting straight up into an arc that I can't hit someone behind a wall if I shoot over it.
I guess the only counter advice I'd have is to keep moving? You can't readjust after you start casting and there's a little bit of a recovery animation. Maybe they should make it so that you can't cast it too close to yourself so there's more of an incentive to play keep away or something. Bow has that retreating shot karma slot but witch doesn't really have anything like that afaik.

No point to wait. If you get something with more slots, you just exchange the old stuff.

>tfw have all mods applied on all 4 weapons and on all gear (fuck you RNG, give me that back slot and face bottom) but still have 30k CP

Anyway, for a game with PVP as the main mode, it's pretty shit, should just ditch it. Dyes are also disappointing (why do they cost CP anyway if it's an item?).

Why does this guy talk like he's brain dead or something? Is that just his character, or is he actually dead in the head?

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>Edgy anime scythe Hellraiser chains purple dark demon magic
Sold. This appeals to the ironic part of my brain. Downloading now

Honestly, for a game with this little content how does it still feel so unpolished?

Poorly translated Korean text said that he's been locked away in that realm fighting shit that wasn't really there for like 400 years w no break. He went a little insane I guess.

>mmo
>solo
this is the problem with mmos. There will never be mmo like ffxi again.

You can't always keep moving randomly if you want to cash in for a combo or get the flag. That's half the problem with ranged karma, that dodging those attacks doesn't put you at a big advantage compared to them hitting and finally stunlocking some poor fuck due to chip action endurance damage from before.

Witch/Elf are both okay balanced in 1vs1 scenarios that don't exist.

when do I learn to use more weapons? I picked bow but it sucks.

>Please tell me how to get in on this shit!
Learn to use your fucking computer, also no zones

do the missions that have a character's face on them to unlock their weapon style, each one is a set of 3 missions.

right away
just do the missions with the characters faces

black hole is fun as shit

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>Nexon

Since the developers seem to be putting it in Early Access, I imagine this is basically the alpha version. No excuse for the baffling design choices though.

I didn't bothered to check but i am pretty sure t's the classic korean shit 8 years old by now that gets ported in the west for a last retarded whale milking

Korean is garbage

it's actually not even out in kr

>not even out in Korea
>this shit outdated graphic style
Wew lad

Even classic korean shit usually have actual content, this is literally just arenas where you either fight some boring enemies or other people.

where do you get the fucking ears from ive been trying to figure it out for awhile now

>get the mission with 2 dark elves
>the faggot that is fighting the one with the bow keeps running in circles and the homing shots end up targeting me
attack the bitch with daggers if you can't stagger enemies you stupid fuck

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>Playing with random
???

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Are there any missions bigger than 2v2 right now? Being half of your team is kinda shit.

no

I'll keep it to PvE then. I just wanna fuck around without hurting my team too much.

Thanks for telling the shitters what's what user.
This game has its flaws but the majority if complaints I'm seeing are just retards being mad because they're shit at the game

Or because the game is extremely barebones with no content and outside of >muh combos it's pretty poorly designed too.

is the game really just 2v2? seems stupid to not have at least 3v3 or even 5v5.

With how laggy the hub is I expect anything above 4 people in one instance would slow the game down to a crawl.

how do i get good at this type of game?

my lad theres like 3 combos per weapon and theyre all extremely simple, what is there to get good at?

Is the full game going to be region locked? Wwill my beta playing rewards transfer if I plan to play on NA servers on full release? I hate playing MMOs on eu servers

>he doesn't know

know what?

Yeah, the game is barebones as fuck right now, but what would you prefer to >muh combos? You either have;
>endless stamina with no / little stunlocking so the game is just who can press buttons in the right order faster
or
>stamina system with powerful combos like we have now where you have to choose when to use key abilities and coordinate with your teammate for maximum effectiveness
Or endless stamina with stunlocking but that would be painfully unfun to play

Rep with the NPC in the hub.

I believe the rewards are tied to your steam account, but I don't know if there will be a server picker in the main game so you may have to use a vpn if you want to play on na. This is just a guess though as even the guys on the official stream didn't seem to be certain on how it would work on release

what is the most fun wep?

Is there a way to customize face shape?

How about some Kurtz webms? Why are you all shilling everything but the game in question?

what's a webm and how do i make one?

Because the game looks like jank in motion, as well as in screenshots.

It's early in the day. Most wagecucks like me are still at work. Most either can't make webm or don't have any.

I'm saying the combos are the good part

same here tbqh and this game is the closest yet to dragon nest in terms of movement and attacks

Yeah reading it again I see that now, my bad

>not unequiping your pants as soon as your done with the tutorial

staff, by far

>game says I got a new item
>look around in my inventory, no orange "!"'s saying where it is
>scan the entire inventory and can't find it
what the fuck did i get?

this
my pvp winrate improved dramatically as soon as i started going pantsless

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Currently not able to play. What's the character creator like?

It's kinda decent in the body department, you can't really customize individual parts but you get some ying/yang and fat/muscle sliders to get the shape you want, and then softness slider on tits and ass which doesn't do much besides making things perky but looks good. The facial customization is extremely limited though just eyes and eyebrows and skin color, but can't ask much from an anime shader game I guess, you get to choose different parts of the hair though and mix colors to each them if you want.

>showed the game to someone while waiting for key
>They wanted to try it with me
>I hate the game, they love it. Now I'm doomed to stick with it

Mistakes were made

should i unlock karma slots or make my weapons hit harder?

Probably either the dye item, or you don't have the weapon sub Karma slot necessary to see it.