Why is he so hated by the Smash community?
Why is he so hated by the Smash community?
He unfairly stole Isaac's slot
Issac will never be playable in Smash.
Nobody wanted him, plus he ended up as yet another slow, heavy character that can't escape combos
virgin rosterfags vs the chad incineroar
it's simple
I wanted him
Binding of isaac? Really?
Being ugly and totally un-endearing is an easy way to get hated.
I should know.
Because he's the Heel Pokemon
I like his design and personality but playing as him he's kinda bland.
because people wanted literally any other pokemon over the obvious starter pick
Go away Masuda, no one likes your fursona
I think he's fun both as a character and to play as
Well you're a retarded furry faggot with shit taste
this, maybe if he wasn't a generic RPG protag with a sword he'd have a chance
Not everybody gets your weird wrestling terms Mark.
Why
Primarina deserved it more
Because we could have had a character from Pro Wrestling instead
>implying smash isn't a generic rpg protag with a sword wankfest
Smash didnt have a true wrestler archetype yet so he fulfills an important role.
wouldve preferred machamp because that guy is like the quintessential pokemon grappler to me but this guy is fine. has many nice wrestling references in his moveset.
btfo'd the Grinch leak and people generally think his design looks bad
>Mark
mmmmm...breaking kayfabe. That'll be 74 pure strikes, boy
Dead Space you fucking mongoloid
it 100% is and that's why he'll never get in, he isn't popular, unique, or cool enough to stand out in the crowd
Kill yourselves furfags
because they wanted those god-awful characters from the grinch leak instead.
Because Grinch leaks.
For a wrestling-themed character, why not Star Man from Pro Wrestling? Would be a good classic rep that would do the archetype better
BASED IncineGOAT working Carter into a seething shoot
Rosterfags need to be rounded up and shot, along with the other discord cliques that raid this board.
bara
that's even worse hahahaha
>he
Incineroars both male and female look the same and sound the same "he" might be female, user.
Why is he blushing, Yea Forums?
Something about his design rubs me the wrong way. Comes off as too furry I guess.
You're nobody, scum.
machamp would've been so sexy
The penis
>ugly hideous disgusting design
>furry bait
>pokemon didn't need anymore reps
>bad even for a pokemon rep, not iconic or a flagship or cool in any way
>one of the worst characters in the game
>not fun to play as at all
>the most anti-hype inclusion which was for some reason the final character to get revealed and had to follow all of the previous amazing inclusions
Just to name the main reasons
no
>Ugh Incineroar is furbait he doesn't belong in smash
>HOLY SHIT ITS BANJO THE BEAR GET THIS MAN IN SMASH RIGHT NOW
Go back to ResetEra and take the discord trannies with you.
>is a wrestler
literally shits on your entire retarded faggot post
See
Why does his forehead look like a woman at thw gynecologist?
put em both in, hell just make a wrestling game, smash sucks
Because people wanted the gay ass puppet and the nigger hedgehog.
I hate Banjo but he isn't furry at all. He's a bland character who isn't sexy or suppsed to look cool. Incineroar's design (particularly his gruesome facial features) are made to appeal to autists and is Sonic fanbase tier. He looks like he's straight out of Deviant Art.
If you played Pokemon you will know that Female Incineroar looks the same as male.
Literally just a sword magic user, and we already fucking have that
>represents a type of theatre that only trailer trash and ESLs watch
Whoa inceniroar is hella based
Irrelevant.
Furfaggotry.
I have never given a single iota of a fuck about the grinch leak, but S/M was fresh in my mind. I have always hated his design, since the day it was leaked, and was just praying that it wasn't him. ANYONE but him.
I appreciate the amount of character and personality they put into him and it's made me warm up to him a little but you will never convince me that it's not a terrible design
He only kinda looks like that in Smash.
>Looks like he's wearing a shirt ripped into a tank top due to his muscles
>Not wearing anything else other than a belt
Are you implying Incineroar isn't sexy, user?
Putting the FAG on furfag, It seems,
I hate him as a pokemon. Hes another fire fighting starter. If he stayed as a fire dark type he would actually be ok
only furfags like him
Not when on model.
I only played one Pokemon game and I know they have better designs than "Westleing persona Fursuit".
>trannyseal
I prefer the barafag thanks
But he's not? I only hear people saying that he's a very fun character to use and most of those who were on the hate bandwagon changed their minds very quickly.
For the last time Machmap isn't a grappler.
What's up with people freaking out upon the sight of males displaying visually masculinity and high level of testosterone?
This must be one of those retarded posts. Just needs that Mother OC to be perfect.
>"I appreciate the amount of character and personality they put into him and it's made me warm up to him a little"
Same. He looks like a dude in a fursuit but I like how he naturally taunts after landing some attacks.
So has this this guy won any Smash tournies yet?
furry bait
Because he is bland and lacking in personality. Same reason why you didn't see any hitmons in Pokken.
Sakurai is a lazy hack and the game needed to fill the Pokemon quota, so he made a DK except bad instead of going for something more unique like Sillvaly.
Too much soi
Marvelous bait.
Zeraora and Lycanfoc are furbait, not him. He is too specific in design to be one.
I just can't look at barazoku in anything but a comedic light, not after watching gachimuchi.
i dont even think he plays this game anymore
keep crying lmao
t. didn't read the manual
Because for so many he's not "[INSERT CHARACTER I WANTED HERE]"
I wanted him since day 1 so I got what I wanted. He's the only thing thus far but still.
Hes hated by pokemon fans as well. He's easily one of the most controversial pokemon in terms of opinion. Everyone either loves him or hates him. i find him fucking repulsive but he does have a fanbase.
another pokemon
Same reasons why people hate FE
>incineroar? ugh, he's furry bait.
>OMG OMG OMG A LEAK SAID SHADOW AND BANJO ARE IN!!!! YASSSSSSS!!!
because they're mad he got in over some obscure character from a game nobody played
INCINEROAR HAS NO FANBASE YOU FUCKING RETARD
Because salty sword faggots get triggered when getting stuffed by a character that taunts after every confirmed hit.
Hey, Masuda might just be one guy but he's still a fanbase.
Mein fucking Gott
both me :)
Sounds like he fits right in with the smash community then.
He isn’t. It’s just rosterfags that barely play the game that hate him. From a competitive standpoint, he’s a grappler that struggles hard with zoning. You’d think his lariat could deal with projectiles, but no. I like him, but he was a waste of time because they’ll never buff him.
seething owlfag.
Isaac fan here, this is likely an ashleyfag false flag. I'm disappointed that Isaac didn't get in, but I don't "blame" other characters. It's a video game
Hey, it's small but it's there.
Who is more hated, Corrin or Incineroar?
my fuckin sides have entered orbit
both deserve over these golden moon fags aor
No, he's too busy getting his ass handed to him at EVO Japan and then shit posting about it on twitter.
>because they’ll never buff him
Didn't he get the most significant buffs in 2.0.0 though?
God the owl is so fucking disgusting
Idk, you guys are asking "why he's hated so much !!", but i saw literally nobody complaining about him, since the direct, except some autist on Yea Forums. I'm pretty sure characters like Corrin or Duck Hunt, got way more backlash than him in Smash 4.
Heck, magister is a lewd artist maining Incineroar and the guy seems to be a fan-favorite underdog in tourneys.
Yeah he got some buffs, including improving his recovery length
This kills rosterfags
user i fucking hate incineroar but im not deluded enough to think he has no fans. i think they're furry zoomers but they do exist.
but masuda isn't an incineroar fan.
ign.com
>there's little to no art of Primarina manhandling Incineroar
Why even live?
Incineroar because he's also hated by the Pokemon community. The FE community likes female Corrin at least.
Feels like a grass starter should have gotten in instead. If not Decudieye then probably Sceptile.
People were really fatigued by the Fire Fighter gimmick that gamefreak stuck to, so they made another one but called it a dark type.
He is, your article is old and outdated
Incineroar is the most hated pokemon in existence. Hard fact is; 99% of pokemon fans hate Incineroar.
Corrin, Incineroar is mixed while most everyone hates Corrin. And I say this as a Corrin player
He's another Pokemon.
All the Pokemon should be nerfed, simplified, and made into alts for Trainer.
You could even do a make-your-own-lineup kinda thing like with the mii fighter movesets, but you'd have to rebalance all the Pokemon for it.
It'd be better and more interesting than having all these separate slots taken up by random Pokemon like this, though.
>I just can't look at barazoku in anything but a comedic light
I would love to see your reaction upon staying near a couple of muscled males, inside a gym. Laughing at you would be the REAL comedic light.
>not after watching gachimuchi.
You do realize that Billy was an pornographic actor first and foremost, right?
>a literal who on twitter is more credible than masuda's own words!
the absolute state of rosterfags.
>Generic JRPG protagonist
yikes
Reading all these replies, it sounds like no one has a real legitimate reason to hate him? You come off as whiny spoiled children. Come on guys, it’s time to grow up.
>spoiler
It's fine as long as you played her game and recognize her retard status.
I hate him because wrestling is the gayest shit ever and he looks retarded
>?
Disregard that. I’m not asking a question
It's what Masuda said at a fan meeting after USUM released
I've played Fates, fully acknowledge that Corrin is an absolute retard no matter the gender, and play Male Corrin because I like listening to Cam Clarke
Why exactly was having a wrestler archetype important?
I've had actual years now to try and get used to him before he ever graced Smash's presence, and it didn't work. What actually counts as "legitimate" to you if you're going to ignore the entire thread and complain about something you clearly didn't read?
The lack of a true retro rep this time around really disappointed me. Seeing a forgotten character be dredged up out of obscurity was always fun.
Because he's gay
Yeah because manual shit clearly translates well.
Why is it that every Incineroar image mocking his haters always look like they're drawn by furry fetishists?
Not even close. It's more comparable to Tumblrite Outrage; it only seems larger than it is because the fags screaming about it make themselves as loud and circlejerkish as they can at every opportunity. This thread's kind of a good example when you compare the posts to the IPs.
He was hated since Vergeben starts to talk about him, and even since if was leak during the sun and moon era
He is just ugly, has a bad design, has 2 type which are already represented (fire and dark), people wanted decidueye most because
Better design
Better type choice
The fire water grass trio
More popular
>I would love to see your reaction upon staying near a couple of muscled males, inside a gym. Laughing at you would be the REAL comedic light.
Yikes, where did that come from? I didn't even say anything bad about bara.
>You do realize that Billy was an pornographic actor first and foremost, right?
And this would concern me because?
Because it pisses off people
And Sakurai too, dunno why people intently ignore that :^)
Still waiting on Primarina being in tears while holding a 2018 poll result
Why do you think?
There is vore art of Decidueye voring Incineroar as 'revenge' for being in smash, all of them are degenerate.
>Better design
That's a hard no
>More popular
Wrong, see
My point is that the majority of the NES-only characters didn't have a personality unless you read in the manual about them.
Same thing applies with Ice Climbers, you know shit about them unless you read about the game.
What are you talking about? If anything Incineroarfags are the screaming vocal minority trying to look bigger.
>Muscular wrestling tiger man that suggestively shoots flames from its crotch
vs
>Bear walking on its hind legs and wearing some accessories
I don't think anyone actually WANTED any of the Gen 7 trio, just that there was a lesser of multiple evils
Because literally everybody expected another pokeshill rep and he's the lamest pick aside from maybe deciducuck. You know your character is boring when A FUCKING PLANT was a more interesting reveal.
This is Yea Forums. Hilariously enough the only other place I know that has a vocal hate base is reddit. Mostly because it also houses the same retards (the one who made the fake geno poll).
"incineroarfags" are literally trying to troll
I did.
You don't know what's furry, do you?
sure thing. now explain why sylveon, torchic, psyduck, etc. aren't in if masuda's calling the shots.
He is more popular, plush doesn't prove anything actually
And decidueye has a better design for anyone who isn't a furryfag, so every people with a brain
>The fire water grass trio
>muh weapon triangle
>muh full Kirby crew
When will people understand that the Smash team doesn’t have to appeal to people’s OCD? This shit is irrelevant.
>Still waiting on Primarina being in tears while holding a 2018 poll result
But why? Nobody really asked for Primarina to be the Pokemon rep, it was all Decidueye and Incineroar.
in a game where people beat each other up a wrestler is an essential archetype.
>conceived from the very start as a heel
>hurr last minute change
What poll was that?
Fuck Incineroarfags, they shat up /vp/ for years and now they're trying to make it look as though Incineroar isn't the most hated pokemon of all time. Fuck Incineroarfags, I hate their very existence.
Least popular of the 3 starters
Bara furshit
Yet another garbage-tier heavyweight
Ininceroarfags only exist in response to his massive hatedom because some people just like being contrarian to rile people up.
Decidyeye diehards are degenerate but it never made sense to me why. Incineroar is as furry as a character can get yet his fans despise decidueye for being the same thing as them to a lesser extent
both are retards.
And if you ask me the best wrestler of gen 7 is Kuikui by far
He could have been such an unique character
Decidueye the worst grass starter design ever
Poor Decidueye fans, they're easily among the most polite groups in the Pokemon community, but not only do Gamefreak shit all over them, but they receive an unfair amount of unwarranted hatred.
I haven't touched Pokemon since Gold and Silver but I like this big retarded wrestling cat.
What about the official poll where Decidueye didn't place in the top 14 because it's a horribly designed shitmon? Or Incineroar being THE most used out of 800+ Pokemon in refresh?
Even if Decidueye merch not selling well because it's ugly doesn't matter to you, it doesn't mean it can be the most popular while also failing at literally everything. Stupid owlcuck.
Furbait and furry mean different things. Banjo is a character who happens to be an anthropomorphic animal and so obviously ended up attracting furries whether it was intentional or not, whereas Incineroar seems to have been deliberately designed so that furries would be all over him, AKA furbait.
Yeah but he still isn’t great. The whole design of his moves is fucking stupid. Look at Zangief. His lariat helps him get around projectiles. Doesn’t do that for Incineroar. I don’t get what they were thinking. I’m not saying he’s awful, he could just make more sense.
>Because literally everybody expected another pokeshill rep
is that why Yea Forums believed a leak without any new pokemon and dismissed anyone who brought it up with "patternfags," "pokemon trainer and pichu are the new reps," and "pokemon has enough reps already"?
>wanting a wrestler archetype
>not going for the wrestlermon people actually like
Those are the Gen 7 favorites.
Incineroar is Masuda's Gen 7 favorite, not his overall favorite.
Incineroar is too cartoony to be that, he only looks remotely detailed in Smash
>And decidueye has a better design for anyone who isn't a furryfag
is that why decidueye has the most fursuiters?
And his personality is a generic face.
>not a starter
>not a legendary
not a chance
Is there ANY Pokemon based on an actual animal who isn't furrbait tho ?
Pretty sure there's none.
>no Masked Royal in the background for Incineroar
>no tag team combos a la R.Mika
>no fucking Battle Royal theme
Honestly sorta disappointed
decidueyefags still salty
i could immediately tell who was the bigger groups of faggots and i havent played pokemon in 10 years
Banjo community is the worst by far
?
Have banjofags even seen the concept art for banjo the bear?
Gen 6 is dead user, we won't get more reps from that gen since you can't shill old mons.
At least you didn't get fucked like Gen 3 and 5.
You are a filthy fucking liar. Pokken brought that camp to shitshow levels.
Daily reminder that incineroar is one of the purer picks in smash, getting in because Sakurai wants him due to his style.
Lycancucks too. It's even hilarious how Sakurai never even considered theme.
Wrong Sorafags are the worst.
He does stay as fire/dark though, he never changes to fighting
Have you seen the Smashboards thread? Decidueye's fanbase is easily the worst fanbase I've ever seen. Lycanroc's is the cringiest though.
His lariat does stop weak projectiles, but some characters such as Mega Man shoot under its effective range. It also doesn't give him invincibility on his arms if used in the air.
Yeah because clearly a bear wearing pants isn't hiding something.
>Furbait and furry mean different things.
Yep, confirmed for being a dumbass on the meaning of furry.
They are worst but they are much less
Any Pokémon that's almost identical to its animal basis, for a start. I wouldn't call something like Stoutland furbait because it's literally just a dog.
he was the lamest and most predictable pokemon rep, besides decidueye, and the fact that he was the last newcomer doesn´t help neither
revenge is pretty good at dealing with projectiles
That fucking Lycanroc thread man. I wanted to feel bad for them at first but then I saw that they were backing the fucking recolor instead of glorious Iori Dog.
Some guy posted a a "dengeki"poll that featured the usual smahs shit stains as top picks. Turns out it was fake.
Everybody wanted to hold onto their foolish hope but I went in expecting it to be comically disappointing
What a fucking drama queen. Reminder; Delzethin backed DELPHOX.
the user you're responding to is definitely a seething owlfag. hence the revisionist history that owlfags haven't been the most obnoxious shitposters since the starters leaked.
Incineroar is a specific design, Owlcuck is "general".
your'e ok in my book
No, not that one.
>guy who doesn't do wrestling is the best wrestler
>furbait furbait furbait furshit furshit furshit
Can these discussions ever go on without bringing up furries? Why must they be brought up?
>Faggotzethin didn't get anyone he wanted
absolutely based, what a fucking hypocrite
>hence the revisionist history that owlfags haven't been the most obnoxious shitposters since the starters leaked.
That's some nice evidence you got there proving that this happened. Oh wait, you don't have evidence.
Yeah remember when jiggs was added during Gen g4's heyday
Wow, it's almost as if people are gonna bring up furfaggotry in response to the fact that Incineroar's design is based 100% on attracting furfags. Who would have thought THAT would happen?
Nah, he's definitely right. Worst starter, worst fanbase. What a fucking trainwreck.
Is it why many fags still believe Incineroar is a shill pick?
the fuck? so owlcucks aren't just a decidueye thing there just anons who find owls attractive? i guess i see why but how exactly is that more furry than a muscly, fuzzy wrestler?
>complains about Pokemon and furshit
What franchise do you think we're talking about?
He is, they literally saved a slot just for him.
The change to his recovery length was a bit of a nerf too. He can't do his dthrow Up B kill combo and survive as easily anymore. They also removed one of the three angles he could do the Up B at. On the plus side, the increased height gives him a larger area to edgeguard in. The uthrow buff was great though.
>Why are people using appropriate descriptors to describe this character and the majority of its fanbase?
because incineroar's haters are mostly furfags projecting. they hate based roar because they're jealous that he gets more porn than their favorites do.
and no, i'm not making this up. on /vp/, they've been known to cite literal furry porn statistics that only furfags would know about to "prove" that incinechads are "the real furries."
Literally most Pokémon fanbase with high furry content fit what you'd described
I seriously doubt people care anymore. I certainly don’t. He’s in and there’s no changing that, so it’s better to move on.
Hopefully he will get cut the next game
Birdfuckers are a thing, even if they are not as popular as furries. Decidueye looks like it would be a birdfucker's wet dream.
Thought that was Mii Brawler
They saved a slot for a Pokemon, then Sakurai chose Incineroar over Decidueye after USUM came out due to his love of wrestling.
The actual shill picks would've been Mimikyu or Lycanroc: Carrot Edition
>>furbait furbait furbait furshit furshit furshit
>Can these discussions ever go on without bringing up furries? Why must they be brought up?
Wr have owlfags here.
If looking at this makes you think of furries you might be a furry yourself.
Nice projection, that sounds more like a you thing If you personally see the attractiveness in the mon.
It’s fucking tiresome to see these threads delve into a shitstorm about furfags. They don’t have to be talked about at every fucking avenue just because of the circumstances of the series being discussed.
>While also making the thread into an insufferable shit show.
Poor visual design
>Mega Man Zero
You’re alright in my book, user.
>boring and generic aesthetic
>least interesting of the three alolan starters
>would have vastly preferred the other two
>they both consistently rank much higher than him in popularity contests
>shit moveset
>personally don't like its design
He's not, just salty as fuck faggots on Yea Forums
I don't particularly hate how he plays or his "personality", i just fucking hate his design. If it were a standalone, dual-evolution wild pokemon, kinda like a Hawlucha that actually evolves, i guess i could warm up to it, but it completely ruined the Litten line in the same way that Goodra ruined Sligoo.
Add to that the fact that gen VII was completely forgettable and could've easily gone unrepped with no problem; the starters being overall shitty; Inciroar having a fanbase that somehow manages to be absolute fucking shit despite how tiny it is; and not being on many people's wishlists along with being the last reveal and it's a recipe for disaster.
>it’s better to move on.
You underestimate angry autists.
Kitty
he is fire fighting in essence. If he wasn't a fighting type, why the hell did he go from a quadruped cat to a bipedal wrestler
Gen 7 is one of the most successful generations overall and the starters aren't shitty. You just have shit taste.
It's hard to be mad because a shillmon was expected after lucario and greninja but it's still boring
but can you see how decidueye can look cool to non-birdfuckers? hes kinda edgy but i like him and i hate being lumped in with birdfuckers. Kinda like how lucario is popular with furries and non furries? I understand why birdfuckers like it but why does that have to ruin him for people who just like his design?
user its just a furry
everyone agrees on that whether you like him or not.
>but can you see how decidueye can look cool to non-birdfuckers?
No.
>projecting
Stage 1
Gen 7 is trash
Yeah but all pokemon is furshit why is that suddenly a problem
Any Pokémon is furry, by the simple fact that they understand what the humans say and command, and that they can marry. Scoutland is no different, and therefore, is considered furry. Would you say Winnie the Pooh and his friends are not furry?
Dude, drop the "furbait" buzzword, and go learn the actual meaning of furry. Just, do it.
>Incineroarfag trying to imply people liked SM and ULTRA CHANGES
Excuse me, birdfucker here and prefer Incineroar over the shit that is Decidueye. That thing has far more anatomical problems, from arms looking like pancakes to indecisiveness on whether they make it a thro or not so you get a really cluttered design. Incineroar inky ha proportion problems which later renditions addressed and I believe is mostly Sugimori fucking up (concept art alone shows he is fine as well as the dreamworld art they used in Ultimate), Owlcuck has far more problems.
>I understand why birdfuckers like it but why does that have to ruin him for people who just like his design?
This literally apply to Incineroar too you know ?
Are you the same fag that thinks Pokémon will not get reps? Pokémon getting a new character is inevitable like a Mario getting a new character.
>but can you see how decidueye can look cool to non-birdfuckers?
nope. it surpassed greninja as the ugliest pokemon of all time. trying to design a starter for furfags and reddit at the same time was a mistake on game freak's part.
I have bad news for you user, it even sold more than Platinum
>got in because of Sakurai
He's gonna stay
I think hes a really cool idea. the only thing i hate is his face. He is really edgy though.
user if i was a birdfucker id just say so. its Yea Forums and nothing matters so id just say so.
>people like extremely furry character
>the second someone talks shit there labelled a furry for a less furry design.
eeehhh alot of them are and theres been way more with each generation. Pokemon peaked at the DS.
good point. I guess im just to biased since i think wrestling is dumb as shit.
Because it's another Pokemon instead of a unique worthwhile rep for a different franchise
>professional wrestling is fighting
And yet hećs arguably the most standout Pokémon character because he isn't a cutesy or a stoic mon.
Really? theres alot of pokemon user. even if you hate decidueye theres dozens of iredeemable pokemon.
Anorith
The Kyurem forms
Barbaracle
Blaziken
Also greninja is among the extremely few good pokemon from gen 6. Gen 6 is the shittiest gen si that doesn't say much.
This. I learned the existence of furries and everything about the fandom mostly from the people who get riled up at sight of one anthropomorphic animal character, or one person admitting that he's furry.
Yes, I understand that there are extreme cases, but lord christ, why obsess so much over something you don't like? Wouldn't ignoring it is better? Are they sure that it's the furries that are obnoxious?
>Pirhana Plant discussion lasts for a measly 4 days then dissapears from the board.
The tiger and his friend have a fate worse than being hated, their at the back end of people’s memory. Incineroar only shows up here when anons post their mains or when /vp/ tries to waste time until Gen 8.
barbaracle is based, you just have shit taste.
This thread says otherwise.
>Decidueyefag had shit tastes
nice bait user. the only controversial shitmon there is blaziken, who is beloved for unknown reasons.
There's nothing wrong with fighting back against cancerous degeneracy.
You can deflect all you want, but Incineroar is definitely one of the biggest furfag magnets of Gen VII. Pic related was before the smash reveal, so i'm pretty sure it's gotten worse.
okay user. hows my taste? My all time favs are Slowbro and Sableye
Some pokemon like hydreigon probably should be on here.
>Any Pokémon is furry, by the simple fact that they understand what the humans say and command
By this logic a literal real life dog would be considered furry, or a parrot, or a seal, and that's clearly not the case.
>and that they can marry
Animals can and have been married in real life in some particularly retarded cases. That's not furry, that's straight up bestiality.
I’m just sick of the obligatory Pokemon rep. I get it Nintendo, it’s super big and needs the spotlight constantly shined on it. Can I have something different now?
>9 user score
Sales and metacritic score don't mean shit but I am surprised by this. I know Yea Forums isn't the only place with a distaste for gen 7. Were some shitposters just flooding it with 10's to make /vp/ mad or something?
>There's nothing wrong with fighting back
This is the internet, not real life.
>against cancerous degeneracy.
Do you realize where you are, right now?
No, it’s because it’s both Pokémon and because people nowadays prefer handholdy stories with cute waifus.
Not having a Pokémon rep doesn't magically "free up" a "slot"
No, people like the games.
exhibit a of what i was talking about: incineroar's haters literally go on furry porn websites and obsessively keep track of how much porn he has compared to other pokemon. in other words, incineroar's haters are the actual furfags.
Look up banjo the bear google images right now and keep saying that
>/vp/ anons with their identifiable speech patterns and shallow pool of images make an Incineroar thread here because they can’t spark a reaction on their own board.
having no reading comprehension is pretty bad too
Now that Pokeshit LGBT is a hit I hope you're excited for Eevee in Super Smash Bros Sakurai Fucking Dies Edition :)
Yeah but at this point this whole "debate" of how much of a shit character he is it's getting tiring.
because this worst designed pokemon of all time too up our lord's roster spot
Maybe you can't comprehend your statement. Your game will be practically the same except one less character.
Who?
There's nothing in that image to suggest an Incineroar hater made that list out of spite. It's just statistics.
>An even uglier version of an ugly as sin Sonic character
>Another fucking bipedal evolution of a fire starter, who's theme is more of a fighting type than dark when there's already been 3 fighting fire types, when there still hasn't been a quadrupedal fire type evolution
>Was the symbol of the death of the grinchleak
>Every inceneroar player believes they are epic chads
>Was the symbol of the death of the grinchleak
You say that like its a bad thing
kill all furries
lel you dumbass
>Incineroar Pixiv results before Smash: 754
>Incineroar Pixiv results after Smash: 1039
Lmao. 50% of its art comes from Smash notoriety alone
statistics that are often cited by seething owlfags.
You can tell that all incineroarfags are hardcore homofags by how they deepthroated Virginbitch's dick nonstop.
Pretty much, hell you have the same thread there right now with the same "incineroar is a shill on fuck masuda" shit
>There was something about Revenge that bugged the hell out of me for like month
>Recently remembered Incineroar has more fighting type specials than Dark ones because they used the fighting move and not Payback
In addition to being a divisive character, he got leaked months in advance so the reveal became predictable and boring.
Oh you are a "One stupid uninspired character is better than 6 unique characters with 2 unexpected and 3 fan favorite" guy aren't you
Heels are supposed to be hated
i still dont know what i think of fawfuls design. I love it and I hate it. his personality is perfect though.
It doesn’t necessarily mean we won’t get something in exchange either. In any case I’m just saying I want something different. You don’t need to whine about slotfags, or muh rosterfags, or whatever.
>Incineshit
Not even once. I wish I could Kill all of those subhuman furfaggots.
>using pixiv in this day of age of 2019
I wanted him so that’s at least 2 people who did faggot
You're retarded if you believed we were getting 6 characters revealed on the final direct
What the fuck do you use, Tumblr?
Revenge should have been dark with its name. Also it literally encompasses no selling.
that is the only thing i can praise about him, he does his job perfectly
because i fucking hate him.
This just isnt something to praise though, villains like K rool, Ridley, Bowser and the like are evil but likeable.
I agree with the other two, but the fact that there still isn't any FE axe or spear users despite there being 7 sword users is a crime.
>better design
HAHAHAHAHAHA
The leak came 2 mounth before release so 6 characters wasn't that impossible
And there was this blog theory which said that there was beetween 5 and 7 characters left to reveal
And 2 echo + 2 unique in one single direct +2 reveal characters stand alone like Robin and Lucina wasn't impossible at all
Which is exactly why it bugs me. Payback is just Revenge but for Dark types.
Binding of Isaac Isaac would be way too based
No, wrong. We need MORE pokemon. Here’s hoping there’s at least one in the fighter pass
Damn, shit taste in mains. Two meme characters, what the fuck
If you think that another furry cat is better than a spectral archer i'm sorry for you
>obvious falseflag with a disabled account
Makes me think.
Many prolific artists left pixiv since 2014 and have been using Twitter
They literally said Pokémon is part of designing Smash from its inception in Melee.
They’re offensive enough for supporting an offensively bad design
They're both shit desu
>>obvious falseflag with a disabled account
Keep on the damage control, faggot.
>They literally said Pokémon is part of designing Smash from its inception in Melee.
sauce
Twitter is shit
>WHY THEY ADD POPULAR CHARACTER INSTEAD OF MY LITERAL WHO CHARACTER
>I WANTED LITERAL WHO CHARACTER SINCE BRAWL SO THAT MEANS THEY'RE DESERVING SOMEHOW
>beta hipster virgin basement dwelling reddit nu-male owlcuck
>better than anything
Retard
I'm not a decidueye fag so idc but objectively his design is much better than inshitneroar
The only pokemon I want is Magikarp
>WHY THEY ADD POPULAR CHARACTER
Incineshit isn't and was never popular. Nice try, subhuman furfaggot.
Well I'm not the one who made an account to screenshot so...
And you believed a blurry image that showed we were getting mostly unique characters of that 6 comprising of hardcore fan favorites and characters only discussed on niche image board communities while also believing we weren't going to get a single Pokemon character, congratulations
>beta hipster virgin basement dwelling reddit nu-male owlcuck
Are all furfaggots literally retarded like this? Did their constant degeneracy rot their brains to this point?
Incineroar is absolute shit
Decidueye is meh
I choose meh instead of absolute shit
Hey man, Sakurai changes his mind on things. I’ll stick to my position and we can agree to disagree on Pokemon being guaranteed a roster spot.
Deshitueye has the worst design of any starter though. The wings are particularly disgusting. Incineroar is just average.
>Sakurai literally said "don't get your hopes up"
>You get your hopes up into the stratosphere
>DUUUUUUUUUDE WTF SAKURAI
sure dude
Greninja interview
>Incineroar
>Popular character
No. MORE pokemon. I only play as and care about my favorite franchise in smash, fuck outta here with your gay ass fire emblem sword shitters and zeldas
>IT WASN'T BLURRY! REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Triggered birdfucker ;)
I know but a majority of them moved to there.
Not him but you fight back wherever it doesn’t matter. In a lot of ways the internet is just and influencing as real life, if not then more
incelroar
Obviously more popular than cuck characters like G*no, B*njo or I*aac.
Incineroar does not look soft at all, his fur looks like a stiff wire brush
holy shit you guys were right
pichu really is cancer
I'm sure you believed to even if you will not admitt it
The leak isn't this blurry image btw, its everything around it
And these "niche characters that are discussed only on Yea Forums", does K. Rool and Ridley count? No because they are in the game, vut if they werent im sure you would have quoted them
The plant should have honestly been Naval.
> Coundfound popularity and knowledge
Yikes
>I'm sure you believed to even if you will not admitt it
>Everyone else is just as retarded as me!
Keep on vomiting buzzwords, retard, the whole world is laughing at your degeneracy, when the day comes, I'd love to break your skull with a rusted bat.
That owl is a mess of a design. The owl assassin fake leak that cane out with the clown popleo was leagues better
Holy shit kys isaacfags. You are easily the worst fanbase
I don't like Incineroar but Decidueye's design literally doesn't make sense. It's objectively worse.
This
most resonable user here.
Don't lie to yourself it's bad
>the owl is bad, unlike the literal man in a fursuit
Kill yourself, subhuman furfaggot.
>Tries to insult someone else's mastery of the English language
>Counfound
I'm going to bet you're Brazilian? You're *some* rancid flavor of shitskin for sure.
We should have gotten a Bug type
sakurai changes his mind all the time, i doubt that well get a smash game without a Pokemon but there’s nothing saying it couldnt happen
Mad numale.
Deshitueye is a literal man in a fursuit, though.
The concept is great, the execution is AWFUL
See and kill yourself.
He's based, the entire Litten evolution line has 10/10 designs
Sorry sweetie but not everyone was retarded enough to ignore all the red flags and start parading a blurry image as proof
based
Why the fuck did we suddenly get an archer theme?
Being part of a retarded majority opinion doesn't lend credence to anything except confirmation that you are retarded. Seek help.
Mad little subhuman :)
Since the inclusion of third party characters, the fanbase cares less and less about actual Nintendo characters and only get excited for dumb third party stuff, in their Nintendo all-star game.
I'm not insulting i'm just saying that he doesn't understand the definition of a word. And yes english isn't my language
Are you talking about this one? If so I agree on the part about clown popplio. The nose along with the entries of him doing tricks with his bubbles seemed like it was shaping up to be this way but oh well.
Only 5% aren't so
You can be glad Yea Forums is an anonymous website
Considering he has been consistently better than the owl, yes.
I hope a dog mauls you to death in your attempt to fuck it, subhuman furfaggot.
This.
Decidueye is such a shit design every part of it inhibits what the design is supposed to do.
>requires two different models for when it folds the wing and uses it for hands. This looks fucking disgusting every time it moves and requires a major portion of the wings to clip into its goddamn body to be possible.
>man-made arrows literally materialize out of thin air instead of being its own feathers (Like Rowlet and Dartrix) and they use ghost magic to hit the opponent's shadows instead of following a trajectory, completely negating the whole point of having a bow.
>The Robin Hood aesthetic means it now stands upright like a human so it can no longer fly while shooting like its pre-evos could, scrapping their entire aerial combat aspect, and the hood only makes it harder for it too see which is counter-intuitive to Rowlet's design and its ability to rotate its head
There's also minor stuff like the design doing a TERRIBLE job at conveying its typing and having almost no explanation behind it - acceptable for something like an Ultra Beast but absolutely not for a starter - or the off-putting glasses and abs-like fluff on its chest. Not to mention how it looks so fucking clunky for a design that's supposed to be ghostly and shit. What a huge waste of potential.
this, so much this.
He’s slow and doesn’t do anything better than anyone else, even styling on people.
He’s needlessly fucking slow.
>inb4 pokefags point at his 60 base speed in game.
Lucario has a base of 90, which in the modern meta, is like fighting with a broken leg. People already thought incineroar was a waste of slot just by looking at his trailer, goin job nintendumb, all you did was confirm people’s bias and make him even more hated, Since he actually is just a waste of a fucking slot.
>he needs an edit to prove himself right
>especially when gijinkafaggotry is rampant in pokemon
The owl needs more feathers to makes its arms more like wings, then it'd be perfect
That's so much better than the numale owl we got
>Would have been fast
>Looks stealthy like a ghost type should
>Doesn't have the shitty archery theme
Uh oh...
>Not Goku no Pico
Sun and moon sold 15 million. He's more popular than nearly every individual character on the roster, twice over.
Pokemon is so shit. Everyone hated this shitty fursuit cat for the longest until it was edgy and contrarian to like it. Reminder that gen 4 was the last time that pokemon was even slightly good.
Because Birdfags are furious their garbage loser emo character that they project themselves on didn't get in and got btfo by chad BaraCat
What did he do exactly?
>"He’s slow and doesn’t do anything better than anyone else, even styling on people."
>Actually wanting fucking powercreep in a Versus game
But user
I keep forgetting that it's part ghost type, there is absolutely nothing about it that implies it's anything but grass/flying
user this isnt supposed to be some nail in the coffin. Incineroar is already shit without the edit. But when you look at the edit and real art back to back you realize how fucking furry he is. hes just a fucking dude.
>Autistic furfaggot writes a paragraph filled with his schizophrenic thoughts about a children's videogame because he can't cope with his own degeneracy
Wow, you're fucking pathethic. Kill yourself.
>Posts an image that looks literally nothing like Inceneroar besides the generic af eyes
Are you fucking stupid?
Not really because they changed a dagger tosser to a fucking archer. Two different schools of thought. Not even a transitional phase like Torracat.
>Inaccurate wings.
>Missed the whole point of Stilt Owl legs.
>Black beak.
I have many questions.
Not an argument, try again.
Oh dear looks like I broke him
>it's a slotfag
Decidueye isn't a barn owl. Rowlet and Dartrix are, but Decidueye completely abandons the idea to become a stilt owl out of nowhere because fuck consistency and good design.
So basically a whole lot of nothing then, gotcha.
Neither was your schizophrenic wall of text, subhuman furfaggot. Nobody cares about you or your degenerate opinions. Again, kill yourself.
>Red
My nigga
Alicia > Elh
>he has the need to post this outdated representation of Incineroar
>Decidueye's design is so objectively shit his fans don't even try to defend it
>Retarded furfaggot can't understand that pokemon usually don't follow a consistent design throughout the whole evolution line
Stop embarrassing yourself and commit suicide.
user this entire thread is arguing over whether certain pokemon designs are good. of course nobody is going to change their minds or have a legit argument because all of this is subjective.
That's from a fucking movie user. It's more accurate than the anime
>Furfaggot deep on the autistic spectrum can't understand that his schizophrenic opinions, or any opinion, can never be objective, embarrassing himself once more
Once again I will tell you to kill yourself.
I still want that edit for DeciduGuy.
There's 1 for Prim and Incin, so the trio of showing how anthro they are should be complete.
it'a almost like nobody likes decidueye just like nobody likes incineroar but gay bara furries that wack it to off model fursuit cat art everyday
>It's shit on purpose!
>It abandons what made Rowlet good to be special and for le big surprise XDDDD
Kill yourself nu-genner. It's cancer like you that's ruining the franchise.
Nigga only shitposters rely on the movie gif. It contradicts everything incineroar has. The anime is more consistent with its game design.
Does anyone know how to enable the game mode where every time you respawn you do so as a new character? Like you preselect them depending on how many stock you have. I saw it once on a YouTube video and then I could never find it.
Still no argument. I get it though, the design is fucking indefensible.
he leveled up
If you say you don't see the resemblance you're lying.
What's the one for Primarina?
And I am saying that human edit is a garbage "argument" since people make it look like it is a unique discovery. You could put an old man fave with long white hair on blaziken's head and have the same effect.
Show me 10 lines that do this.
Keeping a consistent or evolving theme is pretty important to designing a line, so I'm legitimately curious if there are enough examples for this to be as common as you say.
Tam Rumble elimination or something
Not at all, he looks more like a generic SE Ifrit clone.
>That one doujin of Primarina (male) x Incineroar (female)
The exact same movie show Incineroar do the same thing and it doesn't look nearly as bad.
Bad Animation =/= Bad design.
Blaziken is a bit less humanoid. the edit is irrelevant the point is Incineroar is just a fursuit and nothing more.
extremely popular in Japan at the time
i do fucking hate blaziken too though, he was tied for my least favorite pokemon with sceptile before incineroar.
Blaziken has more humanoid proportions than incineroar, the hell are you on? The fursuit doesn't really work when people complain about the proportions as well. So yeah it is a pointless argument.
>similar build to Kirby
>was being used in the anime
She lucked out
I like him, I think he's hilarious
Blaziken is more humanoid than Incineroar.
Again, he moves much better upright. Hell, even Smash did it better by giving him that Chad stride you see in Tom and Jerry memes.
>Got cucked out of Pokken by Pika Libre
>Got cucked out of Smash by Incineroar
IT'S NOT FAIR
>Remoraid
>Ekans
>Pidove
>Magikarp
>Feebas
>Dratini
>Cyndaquil
>Mareep
>Slugma
>Wingull
>Surskit
>Carvanha
All pokemon that changes species as it evolves. I'm guessing all of them are shit in your eyes.
>being this fucking obssesed over a cartoon owl
kek rent free
> noooo it's not me a retarded characterfag it's them the retarded characterfag
Kys Isaacfag
He was already great in the anime though, that greatness won't translate well in the games.
Not an argument.
They don't want to admit they fap to this bara slut daily.
Incineroar has really great aerials with up air being great for juggling which can be a nightmare for opponents on battlefield, a super good forward smash, lariat is great for getting people off him, forward tilt is slow but incredibly powerful which is pretty easy to catch people with who are trying to roll back onto the stage which will obliterate any character with a bad recovery, then you have the clothesline which can deal 90% at the start of a match with only one pint of revenge. Now that his recovery is fixed he can even do some edge guarding off stage, any character can do cool shit in smash if you try
oh shit my dick
FUCK YOU
I think incineroar is worse, but they're both shit.
If you think humanoid = shit then you're retarded.
Blaziken is more humanoid, that has nothing to do with being better or worse than Incineroar.
>Duck Hunt main
Opinion discarded
This is starting to go off topic. Post more bara cats.
Humanoid doesn't necessarily equal shit, but Blaziken and Incineroar are incredibly humanoid pokemon who happen to be shit. all fire starters are ass though they're just the worst ones. How is blaziken more humanoid? Incineroar has straight up human muscles. He has a straight up 6 pack.
Maybe I should've clarified I'm not the same guy.
How do Remoraid, Magikarp, Pidove, Slugma, Carvahna, Cyndaquil, Surskit, and Feebas fit this? All of those lines have a consistent theme they keep: underwater artillery, Magma-based gastropods, plain-common birds, etc.
Magikarp is based off the legend of the carp swimming up the waterfall and emerginng a dragon through the game at the top. Non of those are inconsistent, and just because a pokemon changes species doesn't mean they're inconsistent either
>Pinsir never
>Heracross never
>Scizor never
>Shedinja never
>Vespiquen never
>Scolipede never
>Galvantula never
>Golisopod never
>Buzzwole never
A damn shame
Most of those have visual relation with the previous mon or have an explicit theme going on though.
Get a life you autistic fucking moron
Blaziken's proportions are identical to those of a human while Incineroar is a bit wacky and doesnt really resemble one as much.
>all different filenames
I'm glad people agree with me but how is that supposed to be a counterargument? Oh right there isn't one
Some of the smash community are not gay furries. It shouldn't be too hard to understand.
>loneliestbara
Couldn't this ultimate faggot just draw normal porn? Jesus christ.
>Post says decidueye is shit because it goes from one type of owl to another
>Point out a bunch of pokemon who do the same
That's it. Should be simple enough for you to understand.
Incineroar is more exaggerated but more human because of the fucking torso. Blaziken looks more like a lanky ass human, but incineroar is a weird 1930's strongman wearing a skinned cat.
Normal as in not furry?
Considering the faggotry golisopodfags and buzzwolefags do, they deserve being shat on by the universe
No. I should have specified normal as in no extreme fetish stuff, like male pregnancy. Just vanilla sex and love, and that's all.
Human have proportions like Incineroar only in cartoons whereas Blaziken has realistic human proportions but whatever, I get what you mean about the torso
>no mention of the GOAT Bug
I thought he also said it was shit because he changed from throwing daggers to being an archer. I'm not saying I agree, but that seems like more of a stretch in concept then a magma slug turning into a magma snail
But it is abrupt especially when of the lines are consistent. Cyndaquil is consistent unlike Decidueye.
and Erdrick will steal his magical swordsman who barely use sword attack slot next
i see where your coming from too, Either way there both way too humanoid.
Blaziken has very birdlike anatomy. Incineroar is a slightly overweight guy in a cheap furry costume.
Because it was supposed to goto decidueye
>Why is the worst starter in the franchise hated?
gee user I don't know
>Blaziken has very birdlike anatomy
No, Blaziken is quite literally a human anatomy-wise. Stop being retarded.
blaziken is also based on a shamo chicken so it has a reason for looking the way it does
incineroar evolves straight from two bipedal cats into a random fursuit as well
Blaziken is KFC
God I fucking hate how everything in Pokken looks greasy, Smash's take on semi-realistic Pokemon rendering is much better
why do fur textures always make pokemon look even worse?
Decidueye is shit for many other reasons though, that's just one of them and a minor one compared to other design flaws like the wings.
*two quadrapedal cats
Blaziken looks nothing like the pic you posted, though.
Torracat telegraphs Incineroar plenty. His fur looks like a leotard, his back paws are much smaller then the front, he's shown standing on two legs numerous times, he has an overall bulky appearance, etc.
Smashburb was right, jrpgfag.
so your ass down, golden bitch.
the furries fucking won, isaacnigga.
and your faggot cat looks nothing like the two housecats it evolved from, cock holster
What made you think I like Incineroar? A bit paranoid there, user. They are both fursuits.
And yet it has more cat properties. Seethe more sweetheart.
The only bird parts it has are its head, hands and feet, otherwise it is very much humanoid.
Show me on the doll where the bara cat touched you.
Imagine thinking that we needed yet another pokemon rep.
Imagine choosing Incelroar as that pokemon.
grinchfags in denial
seethe harder furfags
You just posted the two original furries.
How could you forget Genesect?
cope
>Furry poster.
Calls others furfags. Projecting this hard.
How would you feel?
Nothing since Hoenn is irrelevant now
>"Blaziken has very birdlike anatomy."
>lost wings for actual human arms
>Wear pants now
>Hair from out of nowhere, not even looking like a crest
Decidueye is way more bird-like than Blaziken, just to show how human Blaziken is. It looks nothing like actual bird Pokemon.
buzzwole is ruining this pic
infuriated because gen 3 is shit and deserves nothing
>relevancy
Lol
Homo
>lost wings for actual human arms
it never had wings
>Wear pants now
it has feathers like a shamo chicken
>Hair from out of nowhere, not even looking like a crest
it's chicken feathers
>little anime girl image
really says it all
gen 7 is cancer garbage and the people that like it need to be gassed
Or what if
gen 3 pokemon got megas and furry fucksuit cat never will
blaziken is the most blatantly humanoid pokemon they've ever made.
gen 3 had the worst starters before gen 7.
i could care less about who has megas
Furry cat suit got in smash though user
huh it's almost like masuda is forcing his furry pandering character into everything even though it is loathed
Torchic had wings and Blaziken is literally designed to look like its wearing a red gi, you absolute retard
>it's chicken feathers
no it's not, what the fuck?
you forgot your anime girl image, subhuman
but he didn't force sylveon into smash.
No, just make Blue be an Koopaling like situation for Red and Leaf. Otherwise we might as well add Raichu and Wigglytuff at that point.
1) Not me
2) Not an argument
You retard
One more
>"This bird always had arms, therefore, it totally looks like a real bird and not a human"
>"This pant is made of feather, so it's totally not human r-right, same for the hairs"
>'M-muh, you like gen 7,"
Gen 7 and 6 were bad, and gen 3 was way better, but i can still say you're full of bullshit here.
Surprised that Mother fag with bipolar disorder isn't here.
I mean when it comes to Pokemon, aren't the keychains, the trashbag and the ice cream better heels? And with all the salt that Piranha Plant caused, pretty sure that even it is a better heel than Incineroar.
People expected some other Pokémon. Maybe not another fire type, since Charizard is already in. Decidueye would've worked better to stablish the water-fire-grass trio. It doesn't help that his design appeals mainly to 10 year olds and furry fags too.
>all of these buttblasted furfag replies
good job blazikenbro
based roar works more people into a seethe than all of those combined.
Buf Sakurai picked him.