So, there was a thread a couple of days ago about character design...

So, there was a thread a couple of days ago about character design, and one user asked something like "Name one good black videogame character". That got me thinking: what would qualify as a good black character? I listed some of what i consider good and bad here. Some I omitted - I don't think Sheva from RE5 or Rochelle from L4D are enough of a character, for example, bot Coach is.
What are some good black vidya characters?

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Complete bro with a decent story arc.

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My boi Marvin.

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Black? Don’t you mean “urban”?

Token or not, TF2's demoman is a great black dude. He has actual character and his skin color is secondary.

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Aren't all the ones on the bottom the same character?

>all the bad black characters happen to be women with afros
What did he mean by this?

>men make good characters
>women don't

hmm I wonder why

There's plenty of good female characters.
But good black female characters? Virtually fucking unheard of. I can't think of anything.

Ask shitty game designers

Interesting, I was planning doing the same with lesbians, like ND thinking lesbians want to fap with that ugly chick of tlou2 and not with things like Asuka and Lili pandering from Tekken

Basically all of the black people (except the BG&E one) in the bottom are set in games set in the 60s/70s, when that hairstyle was actually popular.

ALL YOU HAD TO DO IS FOLLOW THE DAMN TRAIN CJ

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pretty sure those "characters" were designed by trend-chasing spreadsheets

>afro haircut = shit
Agreed

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Why is Yea Forums so obsessed with black people?

>BLACKED porn
>cuckposting
>"wahhh too many black people in my video game/movies"

Isn’t the girl from the far right one of the protags of BG&E2? Y’know the game that isn’t even out yet?

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Is Clementine black?

>easy Pete is a brotha
I never really noticed.
He just looks like an old white man made of bacon.

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I actually listed Grace from Bioshock 2 here as a good character. She has a good enough backstory and can cdhange her opinion on you based on your decision in the game.

I do agree with this user though, i had to dig hard to find someone decent. They are either a blank slate with black skin, or their entire character is "I'm black y'all, did you know that I'm black?"

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Good guy Josh

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>"You here for business, or pleasure? Either way, I'll hook you up."

Yep, mostly. Like 75%. Her mom was half-black, but her father was 100% african-american

This. Demoman might be my favorite black character

Well his character and personality are Scottish tropes, not African American.
He just happens to be Black.

how to make a good black character
1, not have their entire personality revolve around being black.
2.refer to 1
3

I fucking dare modern SJW to create a character as memorable and badass as him.
He had a game too.

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Did you actually play any of the games on the bottom?

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I can think of multiple good non-white female characters but none are black because for some god damn reason game devs think the only type of black women is an afro wielding stronk dont need no man womyn.

I partly agree with this, the better black characters are the ones you dont remember BECAUSE they are black, but because they actually have a story and a personality beyond "IM BLACK GUYS"

This.
Same rule must be applied to female characters aswell. Create a character not a "woman" or a "black person", and everything will be ok.
Lee is a great character because being black is not relevant.

So, has anybody found out yet how the FUCK you beat Easy Pete yet?

Women can create good characters as well, none of them are black as far as i remember though
Legacy of Kain was mostly written by a woman

So wouldn’t she count as a good black character?

i can't speak for OP but sassy black 70's woman #1 and sassy black panther lady were nothing but husks of somebody's blaxploitation fetish

what was wrong with the black chick from A Way Out?
she was just some gun dealer Leo knew
she was only in two scenes
and neither were bad

You can make a good black character by inserting some tropes and stereotypes associated with them as long as they make them likeable.
Like this big goof. I can't imagine him being white.

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It's a meme from a couple E3s ago, nobody who posts it has actually played the games (the one on the right is Shauni from BG&E2 which isn't even out yet).

literally this

In my book, she is.

They have to have a discernable personality that isn't completely one dimensional or a cynical stereotype slapped onto a design

he could easily fit any meathead or jock stereotype, his character wasn't based just around his race
he was just a loudmouth army bro
still a very likable character

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I consider Fortune and her father to be good characters. Some might argue she was too dramatic, but the whole game was like that.

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Darci Stern is the only enjoyable black gal I can think of

She’s not even human.

>Implying Pete el Pachorras isn't a very crispy old white grandpa

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agree black people are not human but we have this thread nonetheless

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Developers that do good black characters respect black people, developers that do it bad pity them. Sadly most developers these days are rich white liberals that pity black people.

Akin to giving black panther best picture, just because it has black people in it lol Pity awards don't feel good, they just let you know people don't respect you and your work.

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Easy Pete is black wtf

I disagree purely because she wasn't given enough
It's hard to call any of the side bosses good characters
they are certainly cool and interesting, but they are shallow. this helps them be memorable at least, since you are left wanting more from them

Do we even know anything about the BGaE 2 cutie or is the op just shitting on her for having poofie hair (not even an afro)

I’m huge capeshit fan and I really like T’Challa as a character but giving BP a best picture nomination is a sad joke.

is jade considered black

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Lisa Hamilton

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we wuz chinks and shit

Good black characters are good characters, that happen to be black. Bad black characters are diversity quotas made by upper middle class white people looking to virtue signal on twatter, their character is being black. They will always have afros or dreads, they'll never be normal looking if they're male, and they'll never be above average looking if they're female.

Those titties...oof

Best black character in gaming history, coming through.

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Came here to post him.
Sheva is good too but I guarantee a lot of people hate her because of the RE5 A.I. and you have to play Chris first

>He just happens to be Black.
this should be the golden standard when designing black characters. Dudley from Third Strike is fucking DOPE

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Dudely is Indian.

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Also a good counterpoint to all this "write a good character that happens to also be black" going on in this thread. That sentiment isn't wrong, per se, but Charles would be an entirely different character if he wasn't black/indian.

sorry you're right, dudley is actually white

Charles was too good for that crew

I never knew myself until this thread. Wtf. I thought he was extremely tan and stained from hard labor over the years and working with explosives.

What was good about the black dude from the tutorial town of new vegas? He was a non-character.

asian

What in the goddamn... ?

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He might as well be white with a black face. he has white features.

She got enough development, you have a glimpse at where she came from, her father caring about her future in contrast to how she was always a terrorist in some form, the suffering of last survivor and the sacrifice to make amends.
Anything more and the game would become a slice of life, or she would even become a mess thanks to Kojima getting different ideas.

Shill isn't some kind of baseless buzzword. there are both paid and unpaid organizations who push agendas on social media and derail any attempted constructive conversation of their perceived opposition with spam and with inane/trifling replies, usually for political or commercial reasons.

Last bad black is a cutie.

You got me, i only played Wolf 2 and Mafia. I just took the bottom image to grab more attention, but if a black woman looks like this, it often seems like you know exactly what this character is gonna be about.

lewd

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The ultra-white VA is what really threw me off.

He really looks more like he has severe jaundice than anything.

those tits are way too huge

BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAP

Looks like she fucks pinguins

I'm going to have to ask you to leave.

I'm surprised they made Marvin that much more involved in REmake2 than in the original. Happy though, he's great.

Fucking love this dude
>I AM A LEGEND!

all you got was her backstory
she was only on screen for less than 20 minutes
she hardly interacted with Raiden or the rest of the characters in game

And that's bad because?

Hold the fuck up, Easy Pete is supposed to be black? I thought he was a prospector who just was in the sun for his whole life and now has leathery skin. Or is this a ruse?

He's so great that he makes a house-building minigame become one of the most memorable parts of the game, I mean it's mostly the music and editing but it feels even better doing it with him

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Men are awesome and have life to their characters. Women are just baby making house cleaning fucking morons who dont deserve to vote, except our moms, which we should all respect to the grave.
>inb4 incel
Anyone who unironically defends modern women as a whole are pathetic virtue signalling white knights who wouldnt intervene if a nigger came up to their girlfriend and started dry humping her at a bar.

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she is barely a character

BG&E2 isn't out yet, OP and she looks cute.

Pic related. Can't believe nobody's posted her yet.

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Is that p diddy?

What game

Corporation owners and higher ups are detached from the real world.

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Quality of a character is not measured by the amount of time they spend on screen. I guess they could have made her follow Raiden around in style of Mr. X, but that doesn't really work with the kind of gameplay MGS had, neither would it make her characterization any better.

How do you know black lady from Beyond 2 is bad when the game isn't even out, user? Are you a time traveller?

yummm pussyfart

obligatory

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No it's wesley snipes in the role of blade.

My kind of negro

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Piss off ya wank pheasant.

Back on the beat!

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easy pete is black?

Not video-games but, I don't care.

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Too dangerous. Gonna kill all yourselves if I let you touch it. Better to leave it buried - safer that way.

I miss Lee...

>"we're too afraid to make a thuggish black character so here's your bland self-insert bro"
When will this garbage end.
Even the other character who's half-black is the exact same shitty ass cardboard cutout.

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Wait, easy Pete is black? I thought he was just really tanned.

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Don't make me say it again.

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Lee was too good for this world.

This is probably the only black woman character that wasn't an annoying pain in the ass

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WHEN THE WALLS FELL

Too dangerous, sorry. Blow yourself up, blow your neighbor up, blow the whole town up.

>easy pete
>not nightmare pete

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Post is actually a decent brake down as to why Destiny is able to debate well.

best black character coming through

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those were the days

I AM THE PROPRIETOR AND SALES OF THE MONTH SEVERAL YEARS IN A ROW, THE LADIES CALL ME "OH GOD", BUT YOU CAN JUST CALL ME FAT LARRY WITH A F-A-T, BECAUSE I KNOW I'VE GOT A WEIGHT PROBLEM AND I JUST DON'T GIVE A FUCK

Yeah !

the reason I hate destiny is that he just sits there and asks the guest what they don't like, but doesn't actually have any argument of his own on why he's right, only why the guest is wrong. Trying to "debate" ethics is a loop and he just runs out the clock. He's a little weasel and I don't like him.

wat everyone hates roach
ill clarify though everyone hates her cause she acts like a real southern black woman

Here's a black character who you can't help but like. And he doesn't male 'blackness' part of his identity. He's just a good, honest guy.

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man fuck you

brb reinstalling AGAIN

WHAT DO YOU KNOW ABOUT THE MAD ANGELS

Marvin and based truck driver should have been ghost survivors, instead of some literally who thot and literally who grunt reeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

he looks like a really tanned white guy desu

That's because of Bethesda's awful character creator

>Beautiful!

>25 percent faster production speed for workers

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Why is the bottom row only one character?

Lenny too. Nice enough to teach Sean on reading. Shame he died too soon.

>He's not black if he's act like a white person. So he must stay as a nigger.

The problem with Rochelle was for some reason they needed a "straight man" when fucking Nick already fulfills that role with his demeanor, so they basically made Rochelle fucking boring.
They purposely cut out lines and lines of dialogue that would make her mesh much better with the rest of the crew, even removing dialogue where once you get to the gunshop she comes out as a gun nut, literally getting super excited and surprised at her own excitment over the big guns on display.

This is one of my favourite African-American characters in videogames.

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>plot twist
It isn't !

Anyone who hangs with Travis is cool.

HIS EYES UNCOVERED

>gish gallop
I hate leftycucks so much.

>CJ
>Good character
what character they forgot to give him any personality?

TK is such a fucker.

...

>all these people who didn't think Easy Pete was black ITT

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Muh boot

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>no Avery Johnson
Shit list
Shit thread

>discuss video game and character design
>WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU RETARDS DOING HAHAHA BLACKED.COM
if i was 14 in 2019 i might actually kill myself

A good character, who happens to be black.
Not a character whose stereotypical blackness is their main attribute to pander to SJW's.
Deckard Cain in the Diablo series comes to mind.

>black mage
I should've fucking known.

>what would qualify as a good black character?
Anything that is a good character by design AND does not fling in your face any kind of race card shit, same thing with female characters and the muh strong womin card.

Unironically one of the best written "you're supposed to hate this bitch" characters
In that regard, she is better than Cersei
God I would shoot my way through all of vault city just to kill this cunt

Based and bladepilled.

People hated CJ when SA first revealed and came out. ALL LIES EVENTUALLY BECOME TRUTH. I'm convinced. Years from now, people will be calling the so called "bad ones" good, and the then-current ones bad.

The biggest fucking bro in all of vidya

>know what you're talking about
>if opponent says something retarded and not true, call him retarded
>if they're shitposting, just shitpost back
>[dont know what the FUCK a gish gallop is, fucking americans man]
>ask them to back up their claimes
doesnt every person whose ever spoken to a human already know this?

>know what you're talking about, point out flaws, and dont argue with shitposters
VERY valuable advice THANK YOU destiny!!

I want to fuck a sallet.

All black characters are good in their own way.

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Are you talking about Charles? Because Charles is fucking miles above Lenny as a character. Like, did you even actually play the game?

>stupid people like to choose their own narrative
wow you're a genius and a scholar for figuring that one out chief
and also, SA was good BECAUSE everyone initially hated being a blat blat good for nothing hoodrat, and then you break out of the hood and tell the cops to suck

>*blocks your path*

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Stop lying on the internet, we all know that black panther is the first black superhero movie. People were far to racist back in the 90's to allow this.

Black Panther and Static Shock were decent characters in their own right. I prefer that over black washing existing characters.

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BASTERD

They're from a different meme, mocking the fact that all these female characters are coming out at the same time with near-identical designs. The one from B&W2 is from a game we've barely seen anything from so we've no idea if she's a good character or not.

As for best black videogame characters, you can't spell "Big Bro" without "Big Bo".

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Wouldn't fly in the climate of today's identity politics. You can't write a good black character because that would involve giving them flaws. And if you give them flaws then you as a writer are actually saying all blacks are X and the SJWverse would see you fired.

Also, you dumb nigger. Acclimating to western society and developing human decency doesn't make you a god damn uncle tom

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i liked her until the axe joke
she does it every single fucking time, to this day i still hear her voice
>AXE ME A QUESTION

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LEMMY

it's like seeing the same girl but in different ages.

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>Shit is Shit. Lesser, greater, middling… Makes no difference. The degree is arbitary. The definition’s blurred. If I’m to choose between one turd and another… I’d rather not choose at all.
Please clap.

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This is just as dumb as saying
>All female characters are good in their own way
>All Indian characters are good in their own way
>All white characters are good in their own way
>All AH-64D Apache attack helicopter characters are good in their own way.

Sometimes a character is just bad.

>Counting anime brown girls as blacks.
This is some subtle bait.

Most writers are males who can't write women for shit.

>You will never have an obese black woman who is overly spiritual as your party member who spouts off about jesus when she gets a critical hit and bobs her head around in the back ground of cutscenes.

That actually sounds entertaining. Bonus points if she's a frodo poster.

why would you type all of this in response to a joke?

Where the hell is SGT Maj. Avery Johnson?
>Dear humanity, we regret being alien bastards
>We regret coming to Earth
>And we most certainly regret the corps just blew up our raggity ass fleet

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but destinity doesnt debate well at all

Nothing to do with genius. Most people today lie and say they always loved CJ. Hardly anyone corrects it. You're another fucking dolt.
>HURRRRRRRQRTQRTR WAY TO POYN OUT OVIOUS MOARAN
When the majority are saying the contrary to the mentioned point, how the fuck is pointing it out, obvious. No question mark, 'cause I'm not even asking you. I'm telling you, dickdust.

This entire board need to stop snorting /pol/. Take the Wolfenstein women for example - if you played the game it's very apparent she's meant to be an absolute shit, same as the communist preacher. But the message is BJ can't selectively decide what "America" is based on his ideals, as that would be akin to what the Nazis did in controling what it meant to be "German". To live in a free country is to inevitably have diversity of opinions, and one cannot claim that if such opinions are suppressed

>Loud tuff military black guy.
>Good writing

Hes one of the broken tropes that black actors thankfully destroyed some time ago.

I think most people don't even stop to consider what race he is.

>Charles
>anything but the blandest cardboard cutout
I guess he's fine if you have literally never read a single book in your life or played a single video game with decent story and characters.

A vocal minority did. The sheer amount of praise and sales the game got clearly means most people were fine with him at the least.

Louder's better, right?

Precisely.
When a black character acts black, they suck.

>Black
Pretty sure she's just tan.

>if you played the game

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and yet, she was still an annoying pain in the ass.

Sorry I forgot Yea Forums doesn't play video entertainment software

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No, apparently old memes are universal truths and describe everyone's experience.

eh, the girl from BG&E 2 has a chance to be decent, lets wait until the game comes out

I sure didn't consider playing that one.

>I'M HUWHAT?

To be fair, it doesn't help that the overall color of the game has a yellow tint to it so that every character lhas a slight jaundiced look to them.

Fucking Benny looks almost like a carrot.

Yeah, but he's drunk. You don't have an excuse.

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>shit talking Johnson
You're the worst, the literal worst.

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she's an octopus, not black

Fun drunks are fun. Who knew!

This.

thats exactly what destiny fanboys think

You might as well be pointing to a hoodrat thug who is loudmouth, egotistical, waving a gun around and talking about all the girls he fucked and say "Thats a good black character right there". Its just old tropes from before blacks were allowed to take real roles in Hollywood

Just wished people focused on the character's writing than their race

every black woman with an afro is a terrible character.
Every black character with one is based.

a good black protagonist character is a good character who happens to be black

a bad black protagonist character is a black character who happens to be good

they have to have character depth beyond HOL UP and big afro hair to reinforce the fact they they are black and hip. i have no idea how the bottom examples in your image get away with racial stereotypes simply for being in games with liberal developers

I can think of one.

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>When the majority are saying the contrary to the mentioned point, how the fuck is pointing it out, obvious.
the only time the majority are saying the contrary is in america, and only a fucking lame brain american would point out the obvious and then get mad about it

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A lot of those aren't even black you dipshit.

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the only good "black" character is Lisa from DoA

they have to be fully fleshed out like any other character, but they can't just be a character written white given a black skin.

I’m sorry you walked in on tyrone and darius spitroasting you’re gf user
It’ll be ok I promise

can you isn't

I GUNNA CAP THE OUTSIDAH N' SHIEEET

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>They will always have afros or dreads
Nothing wrong with that.
>they'll never be normal looking if they're male,
Most Western black male characters are fucking generic-looking as fuck.
>and they'll never be above average looking if they're female.
This is sadly true. I genuinely think we NEED a qt or sexy black female fanservicey character like Chun-Li or Jill Valentine, to show the beauty of the black female body or the face but it's too bad Western devs are too focused on making ugly women in their games. It's pretty stupid actually, since all that does is just fuel racist nerds anyway.

Nice

PASS ME THE MACHINEGON!

Couch from l4d2, Tosh from sc2, Teshin from warframe and best one is demo from tf2

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"Now mac, it's time for your daily dose. Hold still, it won't hurt bit. I'll give you a chocolate lolipop if you're a good boy!"

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Lee was on his way to prison for killing a man before the apocalypse.
Also this is shitty bait

So uhh how did he survive?

>tfw Blade is forgoten
>one of Wesley Snipeses best roles is forgotten
WHat was the most recent movie the guy acted in? I loved him in NJC and Demolition man

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Ironically, Lee was an Oreo that got cucked by a white guy then went on to raise someone elses daughter. Not surprised the the cucks of this board cite him as such a grand and great black character (Even though he wasn't actually a character since the player decided all his dialogue)

>Bad black characters
>They're all shitty caricatures of 70s black chicks

either a character with fair development or a really charismatic one
CJ is a good example of fair development and Demoman is a good example of being really charismatic
I think it's more easy to pinpoint a bad one

Came here to post this

>AFRO BAD

I'm baffled nobody ever mentions that Demoman is based on that movie where Samuel L jackson plays a chemist, and the joke is that he claims to be a scottish noble while running around wearing a kilt
Is this website demographic really this young?

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Ahhhhh, ya mayyd it

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He was such a fucking bro. I wish they had showed his anger more than just the buffalo mission.

I think most people here are familiar with the actual development of the character.

He’s more of a caricature of a marine than of a black dude. He could be replaced with a Gunney Hartman type character without changing any dialogue and it’d still work.

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The "actual development" are comics that were dropped down years after the game release

>200+ replies
>no Jolee Bindo

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>Danny boy! Freaking super star!
I gotta replay that game on Survivor now.

I meant the actual development behind demoman's concept. He was made black just because they thought it made no sense.

>no coach in this thread
im disappointed in you

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Just like in the movie, it's a running gag

His race doesn't factor into his character at all. He's just a rough and tough marine that doesn't take any bullshit. You're just a faggot because you only wish you could be as badass as Johnson.

Always kept him in my party, his dialog when talking to characters was great.

But the developers never mentioned said movie. Yea Forums is usually pretty knowledgeable when it comes to tf2.

Black characters are inherently bad because black people are ugly.

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read the thread dumbass also
>nobody posted doc louis but me
>

Rochelle has a better personality in L4D2 before Valve listened to their dumb play testers when they said they thought a sassy but caring black woman was racist
The personality she showed during The Passing is more or less her intended character before they gutted most of her dialogue

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based

>india
>black
fucking retard they're their own race you mong

>He has actual character and his skin color is secondary
And that’s the difference between making a good character and just making a character for a diversity checkmark

wtf i hate him now

I don't know, user. He is a good character, but he does not feel like a "black character" to me. I mean, his skin color could be any of the pallet and it would not make a difference at all.
CJ of GTA:SA is the pinnacle of black character design, I believe: a loveable guy from ghetto with a sensible story - you can't imagine that one being of any other color.

I recognize all the characters on the top and none of the bottom. Anyone else?

merci docteur

I recognize the one from Wolfenstein and I think the one on the right is from a Mafia3 DLC

>Are there white-blacks like Lee? Sure
So what's the problem? When did TWD ever state Lee was the average black guy? This is just autistic nitpicking.

I am not sure, but I think that is a pasta.

That is the fucking POINT. His personality shouldn't be 100% dependant on his race, a good black characters is a good character who happens to be black

>that ugly goblin from Wolfenstein is in a pic with Chloe

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this is why you must always deactivate bloom effects.

What are some bad white characters?

What did you mean with Token and what does it has to do with south park?

good black characters have nothing to do with being black. they're just good characters in their own right, and that's how it should be

token black characters written by white people that try to portray black lifestyles is the problem. fucking white people.

but then the character is not really black

>269 replies
>no Shinobu Jacobs
For shame, Yea Forums.

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bladed and pillwalked

see

All u have to do is make him white, and he just comes off as typical poor amerimutt white trash.

stop pretending race is what determines the character.
their story arc being decent, and their depth outside of 2 dimensional representation is what makes a good character.
if they grow as a character, its even better.

I hope they never make a Blade movie in the current political landscape

>Black people cant grow up in Scotland

nobody ever liked rochelle
nobody liked to pick her either

what's up with these black woman being angry annoying cunts
can't they have likable personalities

Easy Pete is black?? I’ve done at least 50 playthroughs and the thought never crossed me. He doesn’t sound black at all I think he’s just got a serious farmers tan going on

>developer doesn't mention blatant inspiration behind a character

Gasp. It's too much of a convenience to be a coincidence. The same running gag of a black Scottish man.

Okay so write a good character right?
Now just make them black.

brainlet

He just suffers a case of "We only have like 12 VA's" Bethesda games suffer from.

Oh look its the animefag with retarded opinion. Classic.

>he didn't play Josh's mission

So we can all agree here that nigs are different from black people right?

>I mean, his skin color could be any of the pallet and it would not make a difference at all.

Yes. And this is what makes him great.
Barret is a good man trying to do the right thing the only way he knows how. He's filled with guilt that spans years and he seeks to both honor the memory of his dead loved ones and atone for his perceived failures by seeing his mission through to the end, even if it costs him his own life.
These are emotions that all players (With a penis) can emphasis with.

His skin color is irrelevent. And that's fine.

IIRC the context was like "Hey lee you should know how to (break into cars or something, i forget), right? Because you're... urban."

they have used highlander (a much, much older film) as references before, don't you think the developers would have stated that the inspiration behind demoman was a 2001 film? they're pretty explicit with all of their references and concept art

Considering she's a daughter of a black woman and ape male...

Indeed. People don't seem to realize that there are white niggers too.

>white incels think they can tone police in 2019

lmao no

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as soon as they start spending money, corporations will cater to them, we're now entering the chinese era m8

I really can't see how she gets out of that suit.

>what would qualify as a good black character?
Basically all good black characters are just white characters but painted black.

That's how they are in real life. Unless they have some whit in them or white structure, they are pissed. Surprisingly because many black girls hate to be black.

>South African
Anyway, I'm 80% sure he's from Kentucky

She is black
Black mom, white father

born and raised in Liberia, did you even play the game?

Formula 51. Good movie with Meatloaf as the main bad guy. This was the movie that got me into pharmacology.

>playing MGS2
yikes

>Only males make good black characters
>Including stereotypes
>One of them is probably Hispanic
>Meanwhile all women make bad black characters

Checks out

>being racist
y*kes!

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>guy literally speaks in ebonics
>"hurr not enough of a black character"
Next thing you will be complaining that chinese characters that aren't speaking in broken english, carrying a dead goose, and fighting kung fu are just color swapped as well.

Let go of the racial stereotypes, liberal racist.

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Guy that BLACKED Jill

>ripoff of Mr. T
>good character
There are still people who unironically praise the writing of Final Fantasy games?

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>his skin color could be any of the pallet and it would not make a difference at all
That's what makes a good black character.

I hope you make a speedy recovery. Drugs are no joke.

You mean, he has a character beyond the simple fact of him suffering negrocity.

>Two different kinds of monologues from two different kinds of characters

Okay

Token Black from SouthPark is the token black character on the show, because he's the only prominent one shown, his names a joke user.

>it's okay that the bottom monologue has zero personality and consists only of the most generic villain cliches

Okay

If only...

gotta love how the sjw devs' idea of a good black character amounts to something right out of a '70s blaxploitation film. the irony is surely lost on them.

>the pinnacle of black character design is a guy being a fucking bandit
>the guy that is both black and speaks in ebonics is not really black, because he wants to save the world and he is a good father
You're a liberal living in a mostly white neighborhood. right? Because that sounds a lot like the "being color blind is bad, you have to be as racist as everyone else, the difference Is that you want to help the apes" kind of talk.

>b-but I didn't say anything about his arc or motivations!
Well, but that's the only thing not inspired by a real person on him. His appearance, his behaviour, his way of speaking and relating to others, it was all inspired on Mr T. The thing that wasn't, was his good points: His sense of brotherhood, his motivation on saving the world and atone for his sins with self sacrifice, and his love for his sibling.

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>Literally afraid of strong black women

Pathetic, seriously.

HOORAH

Based and clean.

>make this pic
>don't say the name of the goddamn game
What is the name of the first game, fag?

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>RE5 AI
Sheva with a rifle and tmp is unbeatable, she will clear the fucking game for you.

>daisy fitsroy
>black women gets control of city
>city immediately goes to shit
what did ken mean by this

I still have trouble believing the lady from Wolfenstein was a sincere creation and not something secretly racist. She looks ripped right out of Birth of a Nation and looks like she's about to snap at any second.

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hm

It's fucking dark messiah, man. And nobody has, or ever will praise it for its fucking writing. It's a blast though, you should play it.

I honestly hate the "Sassy black woman that judges everything you do and makes sure you know that racism and sexism exist every second and is probably a lesbian" trope

tfw all the irl white nationalists you know used to like Blade

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I know I can kill you

when the walls fell

He and Jill escaped while chopper guy died. Then they had sex.

Kratos is black bruh

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Samurai Jack isn't black because of his voice actor, incel.

>ctrl+nigger-4 results
niggers- 1 result
jew0 1 result
jews- 0 results
racist- 7 results
fag- 3 results
faggot- 1 result
Not bad.

yeah, he's black because he carries a big knife around

>yikes

404

fuck niggers

HEY DEEEEEEEEYO
YOU NEED A GIRLFRIEND MAN

some motherfuckers are always trying to ice-skate uphill

>bad [blank] charatcers
>all women
Hmmmmmmmmm

I love Marina

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this, blade is fucking awesome and modern liberals are infuriating

>top features characters (including a woman)
>bottom features the same "character" from 4 different games

>liberals are the racist, close-minded ones

Kek. The projection is strong with this one.

I'm not sure you know what liberal means.

Based.

Add one more nigger there, pal.

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THIS USED TO BE A NICE IMAGEBOARD

Carl is top tier because he's just a hood nigga trying to get through life. Not too stupid but not a genius, just the right amount of brains to keep going

The girl from Wolfenstein 2 has such an effective character. She is a leader that pushes people until they snap, that's when she knows that you are in it to win it not to make friends. You are literally supposed to hate her.

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liberals in the current political climate. Those who claim to be such, but --much like their "progressive" ideals-- are in fact complete hypocritical jokers. Ignoring the context makes you look even more like a retard than you are IRL. Stop that shit bro.

Don't feed the troll and for God's sake don't take it seriously.
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damn thanks I'll deffinitely be using this

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That's conservatives you retard, not liberals.

here's more if you want it, annotation's spotty, but technically there
>pepes/wojaks/eceleb image hashes'
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Whose the troll here again? The one trying to call liberals racist or the one calling him out for being retarded?

You are cringe and probably like Cock of Duty Modern Gay fuck Stupid

I hate this post. because this is an arguement people would actually make.

Game writers and designers create these characters as transparently "token" as they can and still get away with it.

Well, yeah. It's not like it's rare for people to call someone an uncle tom and from that framework it checks out.

I could write a white or an asian character doing literally anything, be it being a bandit, or being a good citizen, being a big executive with a loving family and a house in a cute suburb with white fences, or being a alcoholic depressed fucker wich his kids are ashamed. Being friendly, or being agressive, being smart, or being stupid: And you would see absolutelly no problem about it. And you know why? Because you see members of those races as individuals responsible for their own choices, able to choose their own paths, talk like they want, select and delete traces of his culture and upbringing that are harmful to him and so on.

BUT, in the moment a black character appears in a suit, is not speaking in ebonics, or is a good citizen, you flip and say he is not realistic. Why is he not realistic? Because he doesn't conform to your racial stereotype that blacks are too stupid to let go of harmful cultural norms like gueto culture? Do you not think blacks are able to be adults, individuals responsible for their own choices, able to choose their own paths, talk like they want, and select, delete or incorporate cultural traces? That's how you sound when you say "he is just color swapped", you cunt. Get of your gated community and see the world, californian libtard.

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thats not true at all, user. If you were to convince me, you'd at least have more than a sentence for an argument. Not one conservative has preached more about the strive for "progressiveness" than a liberal congress woman during an election from 2015-present. You mentioned in your autistic post about the definition of Liberalism, yet yoh seem to be too daft to notice the hypocrisy of your standpoint, especially when the multitudes of current era democrats have asked for more restrictions than anything else, completely going against the meaning of Liberalism to its core, fundamental roots.
TLDR; You are autistic as fuck lmao

Are you fucking kidding me

C'mon Coach, maybe the next thread...maybe it's made outta chocolate

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I just want to add my voice to everyone rightfully calling you an absolute retard.
Did you try cutting your hair and accidentally give yourself a lobotomy?

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holy shit, this feels like i just discovered penicillin. thanks again

>And you would see absolutelly no problem about it. And you know why?
Because asians and whites dont have a long history of negative stereotypes being portrayed in film and media? Ever heard of black face? Minstrel shows?

>BUT, in the moment a black character appears in a suit, is not speaking in ebonics, or is a good citizen, you flip and say he is not realistic.

Nigga what. lmao Liberals dont say this. I think you're responding to the wrong post.

>Get of your gated community and see the world, californian libtard.
Oh no, you're just retarded.

It's Billy Bob living in his trailer with a confederate flag, MAGA hat and who loves fucking his cousin who thinks all black people are the same. Not the "please fuck my girlfriend jamal" Californian liberals you're thinking of.

hahah for a second i though all the afro girls were the same person.

Make a Blade game, even though it would just be a DMC reskin

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Kek'd.

This guy and Sgt. Johnson are good characters. Probably because Microsoft is western

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I just did the shitty regex work. All credit to the guy on /qa/ with the md5 master list threads, and some autistic paragon of Yea Forums who actually collected over 9k of them on his own.

>Its them MAGA folk who think them Blacks looks the same!
OHHH THE IRONY
youtu.be/fMeOxwfEpy0

I always thought it was "master gay fuck stupid".
He was great, and had some good one liners.
>Oh I know what the ladies like

>Middle Easterners, MesoAmericans, ambiguous brown gear robots
Shinobu was dope though

>Well I wouldn't exactly call them people but...

It's quite ironic that Zulu are considered greatest tribe of Africa, when it's them who kept Southern part of it in stone age, by raiding, killing and enslaving any tribe that became prosperous enough to possibly start a nation. History of region is just repeating story of growing tribes, and Zulu moving there to press "reset" button

>If you were to convince me, you'd at least have more than a sentence for an argument.
As opposed to the "liberals are racist!" argument with no evidence I was responding to.

>Not one conservative has preached more about the strive for "progressiveness" than a liberal congress woman during an election from 2015-present.
Yeaaah, that's what I'm saying. Conservatives aren't progressive at all.

>You mentioned in your autistic post about the definition of Liberalism, yet yoh seem to be too daft to notice the hypocrisy of your standpoint, especially when the multitudes of current era democrats have asked for more restrictions than anything else, completely going against the meaning of Liberalism to its core, fundamental roots.

Woof look at this word salad. You've literally typed this out without saying anything at all. Our entire convo is just

>Liberals are racist.
>No they're not.
>YOU'RE A HYPOCRITE REEEE

Literally making no sense.

>Do you have any ide how many sith are on Korriban?
>Let me guess, 12? No wait, 13.

A world where the industry try to reskin DMC instead of AssCreed and TLoU would be a world I would be happy of being a part off.

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I keep seeing you post this trying to fuck with people. Everyone just ignore the resetera soiboi.

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tfw white nationalist and still like Blade
People who try to change their taste because of politics are fags.

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Is Locke a good black character?

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>a character's nationality and upbringing are more defining attributes for his character than arbitrary qualities like skin color
Yes, this IS the way to do it.

no

Because we've been told nigh constantly for the last decade that the only thing that's important is a diverse representation.

His presence was such a godsend for the entire game. Every line of his is a goddamn treat. The very definition of SOUL.
Damn I wish more games would indulge themselves in bro characters. But noooo, muh toxic masculinity.

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Americans make me want to vomit.

Why?

>Its another black obsessed with talking about themselves thread

Yeah, just gonna filter this shit.

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>Midna
Cheeky bastard.

>T. actual nigger IQ
here, ill simplify
>Def of liberalism
>Dems self proclaim they are liberals
>Dems also ask for the most restrictions of both main parties
>I point out that it is hypocritical
>You oversimplify, thinking with you poor fee-fees instead of any semblance of logic, cant even read or comprehend a sentence, disregard this as saying nothing
My initial statement:
>I claim those who talk about progressiveness and liberalism are hypocrites
>(you) initially disagree ()
>(you) then agree a couple posts later
holy shit yoh ARE autistic, so much ao to the point where you lose your own argument. Amazing job ther. wew lad

Is this a /pol/ humor thread now?

Fuck you fuck you fuck you. The tough black cop/soldier was great and you fucks removed it because you're fucking abysmal pieces of shit.

he was a bad OC donut steele from 343 so they could upstage the Chief
and just about everything about Halo 5s campaign was shit

I would play the fuck out of this.

>skin colour is arbitrary

No, its means you are just denying the host of behavioral and cognitive traits that are influenced by genetics that having black skin implies. And yet these same faggots, who think race doesn't matter, for some reason care about black characters.

This thread is fucking stupid.

>believing a channel run by the Russian government
>thinking Hillary Clinton speaks for all liberals

Wew boy.

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So what men are better than women litterally known throughout all of human history

Actually made me cringe. Well done.

>Let me put words in your mouth and counter an argument ive made up
Huey would never be that retarded holy shit user. I bet you go to those HBCUs don't you? kek

That's kind of what they do in the game.

Except his intro literally talks about how hard it is being a black scot and his entire in game character is being a stereotype

Its not fair that they get both Blade and Spawn

>>thinking Hillary Clinton speaks for all liberals
kind of ironic considering that they chose her as their representative in the 2016 presidential run

the ones in assassins creed syndicate

Is there anything more pathetic then when a black tries to get intellectual? There inherent low IQ and there stupid narcissism and belief they are better then everyone else seeps in EVERYTHING they make, and when you realize this about Africans, you'll never look at them the same way again. Even the Boondocks is garbage when you realize this fact, because that behavioral traits seeps in there too. You ever realize that its only blacks, who seem to be obsessed with black characters and trying to enforce this batshit insane standard where non-blacks have to oblige to this stupid standard for creating black characters, including "he must not just be a white guy acting black", funny how you never hear or see this type of thread for any other race. Why? I guess non-blacks, who separated from blacks 60000 years ago, have common traits, and that gross and low IQ narcissism of blacks ain't one of them.

>Because asians and whites dont have a long history of negative stereotypes being portrayed in film and media? Ever heard of black face? Minstrel shows?

Yeah, its caused by blacks being ugly and strange to look at, and behaving like damn clowns. If you think other races laughing at black behavior is some new phenomena, think again. Its your genes that are the problem. Prototype humans.

I remember I used to like Nomuras art work.

That should be a Chinese trait

I still think Nomura can produce some nice art. Just keep him away from writing stories.

>There
>not their
kekd, also
>LITERALLY giving that retard what he wanted, a (you)
you fucking dumb cunt this is why retarded posters like him keep coming back. J hope you both outlive your children

These threads are always a bunch of retards claiming a "good" gay/black/woman/mentally handicapped albino alien can't ever mention that they are any of those things or that it has an impact on their life. Yea Forums would complain if a game taking place in the Civil War had a slave mention how hard it is being black. A good black character doesn't mean a character they could just otherwise make white.

jesus this guy must love sam l jackson huh

That's actually false google the shona people and great Zimbabwe

Sound like the brutes from halo

Underrated but that's not strange seeing as how the majority of kiddyfuckers that play the games only want marie

Yeah, I'm sad that I won't be playing Jade but I think it's silly to complain about a character we know literally nothing about.

me

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>bottom right is from an unreleased game

incel OPs aren't event trying anymore

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Your Ebonics argument is fucking retarded considering all ebonics is just a casual way many black people talk to each other most don't us it outside of talking to family and shit

youtube.com/watch?v=pkzVOXKXfQk&t=157s

he was the real hero of gta
change my mind

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How can a series have so much broism? Wrex, Anderson, Garrus and even Nhylus with the grand total of 10 phrases were bros

Nah he's just a Mediterranean

>reading books is an accomplishment in your mind
lmao

would fugg the last one

>AAVE

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but he's a turncoat, literally betrays the player character

A "token" character is a character that is basically nothing but a stereotype, It has nothing to do with token from southpark. The joke from southpark is that he is nothing like a typical stereotype of a black kid.

Well yeah, he's an Italian

You posted the wrong black man. Smoke is even implied to use orphans for his crack dealing operation

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Lance
unless he counts as a creatura rather than a black

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This guy gets it

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>Lists Grace from Bioshock2
>But doesnt list Sigma from the same game.

They didn't the DNC did

Because you're an incel that is eternally reeeeee'ing at women

They didnt. Most liberals really wanted Bernie since he literally polled better than Hillary in every poll imaginable.

>murders innocent college kids for fun
>good character

nationality and culture have far more of an influence on an individual than race, especially when compared to people of their own race from different cultures.

>still trusting polls after the 98% win chance blunder

Yeah neat right? Also she's an assassin she killed them not to reveal their secret

>racists gatekeeping black characters now

I aint never seen a thread like this

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hillary did have more votes though

...

He still probably would be more liked than Hillary if he ran, even if not enough to beat trump
But leave /pol/ on /pol/

I played the theme

So youre telling me that Bernie could actually stand a chance thia election?

>Cerebella
>Ramthethal
>Midna
>Bullet
>Generic loli
>Menat
>Whoever is to the right of menat above nosepiercing
>Indian overwatch woman
>Shantae
>That one girl from the indie game on the far right towards the top.

None of them are black.

>Hes one of the broken tropes that black actors thankfully destroyed some time ago.
Peep Show has been writing this same character for years and he's one of the most popular characters in comedy retard.

>>That one girl from the indie game
her name is Indivisibitch user

>t. Ian Smith
>t. Daniel Malan
Stay mad

>Is there anything more pathetic then when a black tries to get intellectual?
A seething inbred retard.

>Yeah, its caused by blacks being ugly and strange to look at
Wew the projection is strong with this one.

Observe the cringy white male in his natural habitat. If presented with facts, he'll just lob out insults as if they were facts.

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are you retarded? how is any of what I said /pol/? i'm pretty sure they'd throw a shitfit if you dared to imply that blacks are capable of being anything other than niggers and that's what i just did.

Is xemnas black ir south east Asian?

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He's literally the most popular politician in America right now.

Racial biology doesn't belong on Yea Forums, bud.

menat isn't black?

He has neither a caucasoid nor a negroid skull type. He is a dark-skinned anime character. No more, no less.

America was born free and will stay free. Communism will never EVER be implemented and you are a fool to think otherwise. :)

>facts
what? Where? in your post? kek cmon now youre funny nigger aren't you? Oh yes you are! Oh yes you are!

I'd see it being more of a ninja gaiden reskin

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Unless she's from further down the nile than no

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Was so glad he was playable let alone did a lot more in Bayo 2.

i'm neither of the people quoted in the post that i responded to, also i'm pointing out how culture has more of an impact of people than their race. i didn't start this discussion, i just joined it.
is my first post

>come on bo, the only movies you watch are porn
based black bro

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Based Videogame-americans

Louis
Coach
CJ
COLE TRAIN BABY WOO
Balrog
Dudly
Eddie
Sazh Katzroy
Sheva
Zasalamel
Sgt Johnson
Sgt Foley
Black Baron
Jade
Birdie
Potemkin
Brown waifus from Blade and Soul

I'm sure I'm forgetting some.

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Doug had a personality, they kill him off for drama.

Despite the pools saying "worst president ever", trump still has insane support and will likely get a second turn.
He had the best midterms results in the last 16 years

She's definitely upper Nile Middle eastern/Mediterranean mixed, as typical for Egypt. That skintone is too soft

nigger

>He's literally the most popular politician in America right now.
Umm no

Yeah, I kind of figured seeing as how it's by a new fucking IP. Dude you're replying to is filtered, and "but moom, he started it" is not a defense.
If you want to argue about racial biology, as you were, this is not the place. So if you would kindly go fuck yourself, I'd appreciate it.

I thought she was black with an anime face, but yeah, geographically makes sense.

zip zoops

>33% approval rating
He's not gonna make it user. Even the hardcore magafags are starting to wake up.

Damn I loved this movie, made me wish I got hit by a space rock as well.

>What makes a good black character
A character who is good and also black
>What makes a bad black character
A character that was obviously created with the sole purpose of being a "fuck you" to whitey

>Everyone forgetting about Anderson
Keith David can do no wrong

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Is that what they call it in the US? It was called the 51st state over here.

I actually used to drive past the pharmacy where they got jumped by the skinheads on the way to my cousin's house.

It was one of my favorite movies as a kid. I grew up around racists adults but I was kinda clueless as a kid and never thought about characters in movies, cartoons and video games as being black. I mean, I knew they were but it didn't cross my mind. I think because I attended a mostly black and Mexican school.

And i'm not a wigger, I was the whitest fucking blond haired blued eyed nerd kid in the world.

When there was talk of a Mass Effect live action film I was vehement he play Anderson in the movie with Seth Green as Joker.

Neat. My uncle and grandpa are driving by in a truck on a bridge in the background of To Wong Fu.

hi there janny, do you mind not revealing such things? isn't that against the rules of being a janitor? or are you telling me that you were seriously keeping track of every time the ip count went up alongside the post count?

It helps when they characters are modeled after the actor, and Keith David was still young enough to play Anderson in a live action movie. And Joker is pretty much just Seth Green in the military
Speaking of movies, the biggest tragedy of It 2 coming out is that Seth Green won't be playing Richie when he played him in the original TV mini-series

best 1$ game I ever bought

It's a basic fucking 4chanx function you retard. The goddamn site itself has an IP counter built-in, you could do it by hand if you were autistic enough.

Any character that is an actual character and is black. Making a character whose only trait is their skin colour (like the SJW/whatever devs tend to do) is fucking racist as shit. How is this even a thing? I can't wrap my head around the backwards logic, here.

>Def of liberalism
>Dems self proclaim they are liberals

You literally didnt define liberalism nor was this an original point, you're literally setting up strawmen.

>Dems also ask for the most restrictions of both main parties
Restrictions on corporations that would literally protect the common person i.e. things to lower pollution. You know what that would look like if we didnt have it? We'd have smog in the air and children dying in the streets like they have in China.

>I point out that it is hypocritical
No you literally didnt. You just kept a point out of your original argument without connecting the two thoughts. Literal non-sequitors.

>You oversimplify, thinking with you poor fee-fees instead of any semblance of logic, cant even read or comprehend a sentence, disregard this as saying nothing
More like you dont explain your poorly thought up point and expect everyone to know what you're talking about.

>(you) then agree a couple posts later
No, you literally said that a Democrat was being progressive...as if it somehow proved your point when it doesnt relate to your point whatsoever.

Maybe if you stopped fucking your cousin you'd start making sensible arguments.

mfw south park actually got it right with that episode about the flag
kids dont see race just people unlike these fags nowadays pushing their agendas

i know it is, i use 4chanx, however i'm not enough of a sperg to care much for it. anyway, i'm no longer discussing racial biology and i'm certainly not going to /pol/ to attempt rational discussion there instead.

So fucking satisfying putting this bitch down.

The truth hurts doesnt it?

usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2018/10/10/senator-approval-ratings-morning-consult/1590329002/

sure

>unironically debating pol shit on Yea Forums
the absolute state of retarded niggers ITT

My man

>he can't come up with a good argument
The absolute state of inbred hicks ITT.

because hes black

There is exactly one way to make a bad black character, and that is basing them on the ideal self-image of your black neurotic upper middle class college friend who thinks they are woke.

>t. dumb nigger
im not him kek I literally just entered the thread. This shit writes itself

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If you have to FORCE a black character then you've already written a shit character.

as much as I like San Andreas CJ is a very uninteresting and downright stupid character.