B-BUT OVERWATCH DEAD IS J-JUST A MEME

are hats the worst thing you can say about tf2?

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The game's been dead for 2 years
They just pulled the budget for twitch bots

The games so bad and bland its all I can say about it

you showed them tf2 guys

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He's not even a fucking designer, he got his job by shitposting too much on EverQuest forums.

I love this casual mentality that you need to be 'rewarded' for having skill at a game. Like being in the top 500 and having a fucking title that shows the entire world isn't enough. It just goes to show the sort of crowd that actually considers OW more than a trashfire of a game, both mechanically and competitively. Blizztards only have themselves to blame for eating blizz's shit for this long.

you could remove all cosmetics and TF2 would still be a great game (:
too bad you cant say the same about OW ):

>bland
Ah, so you're retarded. TF2 is soul incarnate. The characters are expressive and funny. Every single Meet The Team video is better than all the soulless OW promotional videos combined.

>he got his job by shitposting too much on EverQuest forums.
Man why the fuck don't I have a job in industry yet in that case?

>brig main
opinion discarded

Look, I agree that OW is not doing well, Blizzard in general isn't, but you can't say OW is dead. Interest in it is declining, probably fast too, but it's not dead, and I'd even argue it's not dying either.

With that said, they need to seriously put more effort into events, new content and patches coming out more frequently.

Funny how overwatch is the most casual game in existence, but it's impossible to play overwatch casually just fucking around having your own fun like in tf2. Quick play is either 4 dps(hanzo, widow, ashe, genji) 1 tank 1 healer. Where you just die from snipers because there is no tanks to protect you. Or 2-2-2 that stomps 4-1-1 and they change to 2-2-2.
Basically everyone just plays competitive, and it is taxing to your sanity, especially with shit designs like stuns or oneshots.

OWL is still pulling 150k+ viewers so not sure why they'd bother with posting a view count that could be any time of day with no info.

Not going to even bother watching the rest of the video.

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I'm pretty sure they pulled 300k during first season.

They peaked over 250k I saw. I just stated 150k as the low end.

>Overwatch is dead because it doesn't feel like you're working towards anything
I dislike Overwatch but whatever happened to playing games for fun?

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>Quick play is either 4 dps(hanzo, widow, ashe, genji) 1 tank 1 healer.

As someone who still plays Overwatch because I'm a huge faggot, I can confirm this is exactly how QP goes. You get four DPS who can't kill shit and then complain when the other 5 people aren't picking up the slack for them.

TF2 shows exactly how you should run a community. The only mistake it ever made was adding hats. If TF2 had been run like OW it would've been dead within 2-3 years.

>make a tier shooter
>have no endgame

Yikes.

Its so annoying playing with my buddy cause we get a shitload of instalock DPS so he flexes onto Ana but he's a fantastic DPS player and would easily be out fragging any of these shit snipers but they will never fucking switch to a non-DPS role.
As a maintank I get to be acutely aware how little picks my DPS are getting since all that damage is getting tossed at me.

fun is subjective, some people don't find games that hold your hands fun

You can only play the same game for so long with no meaningful content updates before it gets boring. If there's no reward you're absolutely going to drop it at some point

This is the issue with Overwatch. You got a bunch of people who can't DPS properly who will never switch of DPS, get into situations where they need healing while the single healer is busy trying to heal 5 people while the tank tries to protect the healer.

It's like, just stay behind the fucking shield and burst down everyone that comes into your view, it requires minimal fucking aim to shoot in a straight line behind a shield.

competitive is not fun 90% of the time.

i do enjoy playing random Death match when its available

I think the real issue is you're using mmo terms in a fps game. No wonder its a mess lmao

>i'm not saying it's dying
>literally lists the definition of a dying game and how Overwatch fits every one

What were you trying to prove?

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I refuse to call the roles by what Overwatch tells us to call them by. They tried to convince people Symmetra was a support character for a good couple of years. They can get fucked.

Overwatch is designed around teamplay and positioning, but the average player just wants to run around and try and get kills. Honestly Battle Royales are doing a good job siphoning off these kind of players since that kinda lone wolf damage dealer playstyle is perfect for a battle royale. The main reason I enjoy OW is that I actually like the cooperating and moving as a unit gameplay as a Tank/Support player but I pretty much only play with friends so its a lot more bearable.

See, I had people I would play with and we would three stack but you really hit a point where you can't actually rely on other players and the game doesn't have such a system where one person can carry a team.

Of course one person can do great but a stray ultimate can fuck a team and kill the momentum just as much as a couple of DPS walking in front of the giant blue wall.

Overwatch updates fucking suck. Game hasn't changed since release. We get 3 shitty heroes per year, 2 horrible maps and 4 recycled events. Just compare it to tf2, wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Halloween_map in overwatch we have same Junkenstein map every year. Or the best content overwatch can offer in OC department archive missions. 1 scripted mission per year, compare this to a fucking mvm.

I dab on its fucking grave

show me your dab fortniter

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10/10

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I think the biggest problem with Overwatch is that they greatly underestimated its longevity. They want the game to last years and years so they trickle new content out, but what's the point when its just the same old rehashed stuff, content you'll burn through in a week, or skins that are impossible to get without buying a ton of loot boxes?

Other multiplayer games do it better by having huge content updates that will keep people coming back for longer and if the game somehow last years and years, then that's great, but it's not something that should be planned for.

He makes Overwatch now though

Shit dude I've got 3.5k hours in Dota and that's on the low end of the spectrum. Most pros/good streamers have at least 8-10,000 hours

The game's developers are selfish in their vision of the game and both community and devs are retarded with how they view balance. These chucklefucks are the same people that will say with a straight face swap heroes but ignore how your Ults will vanish alongside, keep no scoreboard for performance, unironically added Brig in the game at her state, and think Genji, Tracer, Rein, D.va, Ana, and Zarya are ok to play 24/7 but other characters are an issue. Maybe they wouldn't be an issue if they didn't have shitty abilities, cancerous playstyles, or awful primary weapons.

Explains a lot doesn't it lol.

You can really see how badly they fucked everything up. Wow really was the beginning of the end, a large bang for it to die.

That video was fucking shitty.

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How is it in tf2 I can go out lone wolfing and actually get work done where as in overwatch any one you pick is useless lone wolfing ?

How did tf2 get it’s gameplay so tight? Tf2 is designed so that players can get into their own small skirmishes and still make progress for their team whereas overwatch you gotta team fight constantly to get anything done

dangan ronpa is an excessively shitty series

TF2 is reddit incarnate, and it was one of the earliest games to popularize lootboxes and e-gambling.

Fuck off.

>play tf2
>still full of faggot bronies and furfags

>WoW is failing
>OW is failing
how will Blizz recover?

TF2 is made by people who design fpses. Overwatch is designed by people who make mmos with a design philosophy of "I want to play an fps where I don't die instantly to a grenade thrown across the map"

>OW will die before TF2

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They won't and hopefully they shut down or more likely get sold to China with the rest of the IPs.

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B

You can do so much more in TF2 than Overwatch though. I have about 900 hours in TF2, and I know about 150 of that was just surfing on surf maps. I know there's probably even more I spent on prop hunt and various other custom game modes.

Motherfucker OW has created such a fucking problem with lootcrates thanks to special snowflake faggotry theres legislation being passed around it.
For fucks sake TF2 did lootcrates and cosmetics like 4 years before OW and still managed to be less shitty and damaging to the video game industry.

The game alienated all those people and they stopped playing. Blizzard only wanted tourneyfags, and then they wondered why they were having problems with "toxic" players.

diablo mobil will save them!

They won't because they're supremely narcissistic and up their own asses.
The Diablo Immortal fiasco is proof of how out of touch with reality they are.

Then again, they already kind of showed their true colors with the 'You think you do but you don't" controversy years ago.

Mystery Heroes is the way this game was meant to be played

youtube.com/watch?v=0Wrw3c2NjeE

Reminder that this is now the President of the Company

>The game was meant to be random bullshit that gives you AIDS

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Getting good is fun.
But the game is shallow so there is no fun.

>It's overwatch's fault that lootboxes are being legislated against

Love to see some sources on this.

>For fucks sake TF2 did lootcrates and cosmetics like 4 years before OW and still managed to be less shitty and damaging to the video game industry.
Nice little mental gymnastics there.
Fact of the matter is, TF2 is 90% responsible for the popularization of cancerous lootbox culture in gaming these days.
It was pure cancer 4 years ago, and it's still pure cancer now.

>fun

It's the most fun gamemade.

>you lose your ultimate upon death so less chance of the entire enemy team pressing Q and winning the game
>it prevents hero maining
>forces you to use heroes you're not used to or don't normally play

I quit OW like a year ago but the last several months that i played the game i exclusively played mystery heroes.

Funny how retail wow turned out exactly like everquest. All current wow content is terrible except for mythic raids for 1% and you get cancer like Method spending 10k+ bucks to get first mythic G'huun kill.
>"Whoever came up with this sheer fisting of an encounter can go fuck themselves. Do me a favor so I don't waste my guild's time on this kind of jackass shit-fest again, send me an email at [email protected] when you decide to A) Implement an encounter that wasn't designed by a retarded chimp chained to a cubicle A.)Get a Quality Assuarance Department C) Actually beta test the fucking thing and D) Patch it live. And please for god's sake -- do it in the order I laid out for you. Don't worry, I won't charge you a consulting fee on that one. And for good luck you might as well E) Pull your heads out of your asses. While you're at it rename the game to BetaQuest since you've used up you're alotted false advertising karma on the Bazaar and user interface scam of '01.Fix the Emperor encounter. Fix Seru. Rethink your time-sink bullshit. Fix all the buggy motherfucking ring encounters (I suggest you let whoever made the Burrower one do this since that dude apparently laid off the crack the rest of you were smoking). Fix the VT key quest. Fix VT (just guessing it's fucked up considering your track record). Don't have the resources to fix this stuff? Move the ENTIRE Planes of Power team over to fixing Shadows of Luclin AND DO IT NOW. If you don't fix Luclin, you jackassess will be the only ones playing the Planes of Power."
Just look at this shit. How ironic it that now he is shit talking banned "toxic" players without giving them a second chance to redeem them.

the cancer lootbox culture comes from selling lootboxes on full priced games you stupid blizztard not on fucking f2p games

>Fix all the buggy motherfucking ring encounters (I suggest you let whoever made the Burrower one do this since that dude apparently laid off the crack the rest of you were smoking)

HAHAHAHAHA I know Jeff is a hypocrite faggot nowadays but holy shit he used to be cool as fuck

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Except when the other team gets a good comp they keep their ults and that good comp forever. It's the most snowbally game mode there is because of that.

Oh deary me, overbabs! Shall we a have a toast then?

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>playing paladins past OB78

YIKERS!

Your first sentence is categorically incorrect. If you're good as quite a few characters you can get easy picks on the enemy team. I'm tired of retards hating the wrong things about this shit game thus giving fuel to people who defend it. Seriously if you don't know what you're talking about fuck off and don't post.

Sweet Jesus this man sounds SO emotionally invested in games. Like, damn. The stuff he's saying. Like, "TF2 betrayed me" and shit. This man sounds like he's one bad update away from a complete mental breakdown.

Why do people get so emotionally invested in multiplayer games. I just don't get it.

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No MMO killed WoW
Not even Blizzard killed WoW
It was the autistic uber raiders who'd be better off playing spreadsheet simulator

A lot of things killed WoW.

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>5 minutes in
>dude just ocmplains he has no rewards for leveling up for like 3 minutes straight
Is this what's all Blizzard games like? Does anyone play them just for the fun of playing a game?

It stops being fun when every match is the exact same thing or worse.

That's kind of the fate of all multiplayer games. Just move on to a new one.

>have a gf that fucks whenever I want, incredibly loyal, loves me more than I love her, and totally out of my league in terms of appearance
>only downside is she makes me play Overwatch with her several hours a day
the fuck do I do? I'm fucking miserable when I play this shit

>thing I don't like is reddit
>thing I like is Yea Forums

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BUT MUH BLIZZERD!!!!

Try getting pick by tracer in bagette death ball

>still full of faggot bronies and furfags
are bronies really still a thing? I never see them outside of their containment boards and sites anymore

Not Fortnite. They push out game changing patches and new content constantly, it's one of the reasons the game has been so successful. The couple of months I played Overwatch they didn't add shit.

I haven't really delved into either of them. What did TF2 specifically do right that OW did wrong? Legitimate question.

>Let's make a kiddie themed game that caters to retards, holds your hand the entire time, has the depth of a puddle, and doesn't even have a scoreboard so nobody knows how trash you are
>And then market it as the next big competitive shooter
Honestly what did Jeff expect to happen?

>gameplay depth is measured by shinies thrown at you

Wtf, i legit feel Like a boomer now

>trade hats for games
wow so cancerous

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>the two meta dps in comp OW right now are fucking Zarya and Zenyatta, a tank and a support respectively
well balanced Blizz, great job

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Wow I never seen that clip of Jeff Kaplan before, he's literally saying Fuck you to the community of overwatch.

Messed up.

remote control vibrator during the game?
tell her you're bored with it?
Does she play anything else? will she?
Does she do anything else?
Are you sure she likes the game too?

>150k+ viewers
Bots and drops.
I was looking at the chat during one of the games this weekend and it moves slower that a fucking dota 2 tournament game with 20k viewers.

>Preview
>Twitch viewers
Fucking what is this retarded bullshit? This is worse than Twitter threads.

Porn has always been the ultimate goal

Not surprised at all. Dumb fucks have been obsessed with buffing tanks and supports since day one turning the game into a fucking slog. The game on release was the most enjoyable patch it had, all they had to do was nerf mcree right click.

Judging by the amount of porn they clog up boorus with, yes.
I'll admit to finding the humanised ones fappable.

It's my time to shine

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Can't have offense heroes actually be viable or all the support shitters would get BTFO by people who can aim

Palawho? Overwhat? You mean Team Fortress 2, right?

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>Blizzdrones shittalking other FPS games
>YOUR GAME HAS NO DEPTH OUR PRO LEAGUE HAS MILLIONS OF DOLLARS INVESTED
>Proceeds to play with the same stale meta of the last 8 months in the worst maps ever designed

That's because you get banned for basically anything.

google.com/search?ei=xXhuXM2zFsr10wLI6oe4AQ&q=banned overwatch league twitch chat site:us.battle.net

I'm still fucking mad they nerfed his range. He has one of the worst kits in the game and his only saving grace was his revolver that deleted people from a distance.

>SOUTH OF DIAMOND NO ONE IS PLAYING GOATS

No one is playing at all...

>remote control vibrator during the game?
good idea, but I think it'd make it even harder to carry her
>tell her you're bored with it?
I do, but I feel guilty not doing something she obviously enjoys with her
>Does she play anything else? will she?
yes, but she quits after like 30 minutes to play more OW
>Does she do anything else?
she does, but Overwatch always seems to be a priority
>Are you sure she likes the game too?
yes, unfortunately

I appreciate your suggestions. I realize this is a silly problem to have.

Yup, exactly the reason I stopped playing this garbage. It's an """FPS""" for league players

He means the stacy to tf2's chad.

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>quit 3 months after release cause couldnt take it anymore
>people are only just now realizing the game is irredeemable

oh you poor souls

something should have tipped you off when a bunch of gooks are competing on a competitive level in a "shooter"

The game is on its' death throes it is leaking players and fans. Blizzard repeatedly treats their fans like children banning the passionate player base left and right for miniscule shit. Meanwhile the people who actually deserved to be banned constantly throw games, disconnect, or are just generally toxic. The game could be saved with some quality of life improvements but I'm sure they're saving all the actual hard work and ideas for the sequel.

>Can't have support be too inpactful on the game, or Offense heros start screaming that they can't get enough impact.
>Can't buff offense heroes too much because then supports will scream that their role might as well not even exist and start force picking more dps.
>Can't buff tanks because, tank players because they're fine, except when they keep braking reinhardt, you'd think one of the most basic tanks in the game wouldn't be so easy to break, but they still seem to manage it and because dps player will start screaming about their role being useless bust still refuse to pick tanks.
Wat do?

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find something better to do together that doesn't involve video games

Yeah i use to play thhis game every day but even a die hard fan like me from day one has stopped playing a month ago.

go play a game that's actually good

Just turn off your brain and play monkey man.

Personally, here's a couple things that killed Overwatch for me:

>1. Removing multiple heroes from casual
Casual used to be a relaxing gamemode where you could joke around and do silly stuff and not care. My friend and I would often pick the same hero and have a competition on who could deal more damage or get more kills. Or sometimes you'd have all 6 teammates pick the same hero and it would be a blast, especially when the enemy team would do the same. But no, now casual is just a warm-up mode for competitive.

But by removing multiple heroes, they just made casual more like competitive. And, as such, made casual more serious and less fun.

>2. Shitty character reworks and nerfs
This is mostly directed at Mercy. She used to be so simple to play and I enjoyed playing her when I wanted to relax. Then they fucked her up and ruined her. Same with Symmetra, who initially had a good rework but then was reworked a second time and ruined. Other characters like McCree were nerfed too much.

>3. Core gameplay, specifically lack of you as an individual mattering
In a game like Siege, if your team sucks, you can still single-handedly turn the tide and win the game. You can still put up an effort. In Overwatch, if your team sucks, you're just going to get rolled over repeatedly. There's nothing that you, as an individual, can do when your team is failing you. Blizzard says this is a design choice because they want to emphasize teamwork but the reality is that most people play solo and it ruins the fun. And I cant have fun in casual because casual, as i mentioned above, is essentially just a warm-up gamemode for competitve.

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These are all just my personal opinions. Most of you might not agree but i just wanted to share what i don't like about the game.

>you play a few games and what do you accomplish?
Having fun? Maybe he should play the games he enjoys and not what is big. Then you wouldn't need little emblems on your account to feel special. Almost like OW and all these recent big multiplayer games were just a fad

Be like Paladins or TF2 and add card/items that affect the gameplay of each character
For example, Paladins has 40 champions right now but each one of them has three different "talents", boom now your fucking game has 120 different playstyles not even counting the loadout system and the item shop, no more stale meta, no more dudegoatslmao.

6 players is too little for a team game, the game fundamentally doesnt work.

Like what? Smite?

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>>It's a shittier version of an existing game that missed the entire point of that game
Pray tell. what game is this?

what even is Symmetra now? I heard they made her ult a fucking wall or something

>autist rants incoherently about a preschooler hero shooter for 15 minutes
I get this game is shit, but how do people listen to this?

like Paladins

You ignore support/tank shitters because they are the minority. Most people want to play the characters that take time and skill to master and can make big plays. A meta that rewards aggression and skill is ideal.

quick rundown

this, if someone isn't carrying their weight in TF2 you have 15 other people who can share that load. Makes for a much more fun experience for everyone

Yeah, overwatch has some of the most big brain designs. Healers are the best anti tanks anti heals and best source of mobility. D.va has no weaknesses. Tanks deal the same damage as dps. Reaper sucks at his only job. DPS never started or influenced meta, half of the metas don't even need dps.

>removing multiple heroes from casual

Made me drop the game instantly, game was so much fun just using multiple of the same hero.

TF2 has

>much bigger, more varied maps. allows multiple styles of play and different approaches to fighting.
>bigger teams. bad players have less of an influence on the game (in OW, a single player not pulling their weight loses the game)
>classes that are not completely pigeonholed into doing one thing (a pyro can only flame things up close, but he can still pull out his shotgun and contribute)
>EVERY CLASS IS CAPABLE OF BREAKING A STALEMATE WITHOUT SOME ULTIMATE ATTACK BULLSHIT

just off the top of my head

got no fucking clue, but iirc her ultimate spawns a massive fuck-off wall that spans across the entire map and trumps any enemy projectile coming from the other side.

If we look at this guy as the standard for OW fans, it only shows that this game's only purpose is some bullshit esport component. Not to add to the TF2 vs OW shitposting but that game has survived 10 years on just being fun to play. Hell, for me winning in TF2 is a bonus, not the only reason I keep on playing.
Obviously there's also the Valve element of allowing all sort of mods and community servers so you can play all sort of different games inside of TF2, Valve not being overbearing on what is allowed to be said or not, etc.

people hit the (low) skill ceiling and get bored, so they leave, and people are beginning to notice

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>Overwatch isn't that big any more so I can stop pretending to like it

Did he really call Apex Legends possibly the greatest game of all time? Do these people actually exist?

thanks bog

Every game over the past decade and change forcing this 5v5 or 6v6 matchmaking horseshit (with no alternative) is the most aggravating thing. The devs keep making the retard excuse "WE feel it's the best way to play the game".

>the only thing I know about Jeff Kaplan is that he made an angry post once
>therefore that must be specifically the only reason he was given a director role on a AAA video game

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She still sucks because her beam is really short and she has 0 mobility or survivability to be front fighter. Idk why they removed her throwable shield.

The part where he started complain about how nobody wants to watch his videos that aren't OW related was fucking retarded. He should've planned ahead and made different content and not just one single type.

She's a shield buster and it's actually a decent rework. Ult is a huge wall and her TP is short distances on a short cooldown. Still niche pick though. Problem is there's no replacement for old Sym. The play style is pretty different.

I think a lot of people might get angry at me for this post, but I haven't enjoyed Overwatch in months is it "too late" to get into TF2? I've never played it before, but Overwatch got me interested in the genre.

>she has 0 mobility

Her TP doofus and her survivability is the same as Mcree honestly. Problem is her DPS is only good when she's full charge so you need to play into shield heavy comps.

You are baby

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TP is clunky. Honestly she need 250 hp like all other close combat heroes like mei reaper or brigitte.

Not too late, you can still pub there are many players but experienced players will make your life pretty hard

No it's not too late to get into TF2. I taught a friend how to play who was completely new to shooters and in the span of a week he was stomping pubs as soldier. The game is piss easy to do well in once you get the basics down, pub players are like lemmings.

>tfw play Tf2, OW and Paladins
>tfw Yea Forums would never accept me
:(

stupid video. of course they'll continue making more cosmetics as they're making them money

>TF2 shows exactly how you should run a community.
In the past, definitely. TF team has been almost abusively neglectful the past two and a half years. I wouldn't even mind if TF team never made another map or weapon if they at least added 1 or 2 fanmade maps to the official map list every 2-3 months and did the same for MvM, we have a ton of good maps and missions for the game mode thanks to those last few community contests.

>Artifact
Now THAT'S embarrassing

thanks anons, I’ll give it a shot

why would you care about being accepted by a bunch of random, nameless voices in the void

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Nigga its never too late to enjoy the game that basically somehow birthed Overwatch and then proceeded to outlive it.

TF2 is fucking timeless.

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Make sure the update the default config, it's really bad.
mastercomfig.com/

thank you

>FPS game based around lucky ults

This game should've never existed.

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You're gonna miss out on what made the game exceptional playing in 2019 but it's definitely worth playing, especially since it's free (which ironically was one of the few things that killed it)

Never too late. Sure, you missed the "golden years" like I did, but it's easy to pick up. Your only big issue might be getting matched with pubstompers who won't allow you the time to learn the intricacies of the game. If you want to improve, you might have to look up some videos to help out.
There's also a lot of different weapons so don't get intimidated if you can't figure out why a player is capable of one thing but you're not.
Also, don't be afraid to just ask in chat questions. I love when people do that in TF2, I always try to help them improve.
Other than that, have fun.

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>almost a whole year since the Blue Moon update
w-we'll get SOMETHING soon, right lads? Maybe a few of the Artifact devs drifted over to the TF2 side of the office once it flopped.

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Because...they are the only friends I have.

matchmaking has ruined the community so it wont be the same

No amount of updates will bring back the golden years my guy, especially since people ask for so much that Valve has to get really creative.

>ywn play TF2 for the first time again

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>its not a meme just because a youtuber says it
ok

I wonder if part of their problem is that it splits the players too much in too many maps. I felt like playing Powerhouse the other day but no one was there. When I finally got in, it was a 4v3, and I don't like playing so small matches with none of that constant chaos around. And hell, most players end up going back to 2fort, Dustbowl, Badwater.

>tfw still play TF2 and still have fun

Fuck new games.

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Based space frog poster

>TF2 is a balanced and superior ga-

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>tfw americans are too stupid to even pronounce "Brigitte"
>tfw they call her 'Bruh-shite'
no wonder this game is dead

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imagine if everyone had on demand crit rockets that only required building up a damage meter. that would be pretty annoying huh haha.

Our game isn't dying. Team, select a new candidate for the gay list.

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kek

I'M NOT A STRAIGHT MAN ANYMORE

I like to imagine that Blizzard has a giant Wheel of Fortune with the characters' names to select who will turn out gay when they get criticized.

We might have to use the tranny card, Jeff.

Because the ceiling is too low. Like mastering checkers.

Theres way more depth and things to try out and master in other games like CSGO and TF2.

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There will be a female furry fapbait character, mark my words.

You'll feel a bit annoyed at not having all the weapons unlocked, but just play the game and you should get them eventually through achievements or just as random rewards for playing.
Also, don't buy the weapons from the store when you can just get them by playing

I honestly think this problem would be alleviated greatly if we were allowed to join Valve servers ad-hoc again. I love playing Pass Time but it's so hard to get added to a game, even though there ARE more than zero people playing. If I could just search for a Pass Time server and join it instead of waiting 5-10 minutes for Valve to add me to one, I'd play the mode a lot more often.

>they land on: Mercy is gay for adult Pharah
>Jeff: No, not yet. It's still too early. Roll again.

Paladins has always been better

You guys ever notice like 1/2 of the map space is never utilized due to the extreme reliant on teammwork? Seriously the maps are much bigger if you explore them outside of an actual game.

>all these valve cocksucking
i thought nu-Yea Forums was a meme but you guys are obviously from that mustard race place that give pc gamers a bad rep

>Gabe didn't have to do anything
>Fortnite die from Apex, while both will kill OW

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liking tf2 =/= liking valve

>no leaderboards or extra sprays for leveling up is a lack of depth
Holy shit, Overwatch players are fucking retarded. I bet they think Quake is just aiming and fighting games is just mashing

if you venture off alone you just die and everyone gets mad. there is no better strategy than just moving as a death ball through the map.

Valve are equally as bad as Blizzard but that doesn't make TF2 any less fun.

Are you surprised? They focused way too hard on trying to make this game a esport rather than making it fun. I liked the game when it came out but they kept changing it and now its a completely different game

>>OW will die before TF2

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>the trash movie flopped
>has even a general on Yea Forums
HAHAHHAHAHAHA

>competitive is not fun 90% of the time.
t. never played competitive MvC2
Don't play comp if you're a sore loser. I'm super excited for MKXI and I'm entering every online and offline event I can find

OW is a trash tier game, it was fun 3 years ago when it came out but it got ruined by stale metas, loot boxes and other shits

It's funny how the TF2 characters have been saying the same shit for a decade in SFMs and such and it's still funny. Meanwhile nobody can quote an OW character without using google that isn't their ult quote.

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>Game is bad cause there isn't leaderboards for xp or things to grind for
How about just play to get better and have fun?

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next hero will be tranny

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I think that would help alot. Maybe as a secondary option while also keeping the current system for people who aren't feeling picky about a specific map.
Also they could try small events specific for some maps. Maybe with a reward of more meaningless XP or something, just a small thing to get some of the more desolated maps some love, even if for just a week.

I bet you can't even rocket jump

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I want OW to die but it sure is taking a long time. The oldfag people still playing it are insane.

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>Brings up twitch views in the first couple of seconds
No thanks

Doesn't really matter when some equally cancerous company just took their place as the meme game of the year. One piece of shit dies, another takes its place.

Why is Blizzard so slow to develop games?

They could have repurposed Overwatch's engine and made a Starcraft Ghost BR game. With the success of Apex Legends, I can't believe the shitheads at Blizzard Activision are too arrogant and complacent in their ivory tower to not make games.

They are clinging to the legacy of their past successes.

Investors wonder why they aren't earning as much.

It's because Blizzard has become arrogant and stopped being pioneers.

Pride comes first before a hard fall.

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>Like mastering checkers
What's wrong with trying to master Checkers?

forgot your pic bro

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Ever since they got rid of community servers and server browser, this applies for ALL games.
>No longer can you see a server dedicated to doing dumb shit or server mods.
>No longer can a game stay alive and filter out certain players to certain servers and keep the competitive to a certain set of servers
Games hemorrhage players when queue time goes from

make a white american new heroine in Overwatch

based on Captain manjaw Marvel

go back to your containment general

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Just played Overwatch 2 hours ago, watched OWL for 4 days straight and will go play few rounds after making this post.

Keep crying, goy. I hate the game and Blizzard with passion, but its still the best current FPS out there right now.

But they recently gave us Ashe.

Not only that, I can even remember their exact tone, where they give emphasizes. I could probably still quote Meet the Medic from memory.
And their laughter will never leave my head. I look at this webm and it might as well have sound.

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>but its still the best current FPS out there right now.

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>"I want to play an fps where I don't die instantly to a grenade thrown across the map"

It's funny because Overwatch is insanely fast paced. In a no fun kind of way. You ever notice you never get any "breathing room" in the game, just taking cover behind fire like in other shooters? Because the game just feels like a very busy job.

>TF2 still going strong 12 years later
lol where is the Overcuck that actually thought his shit game would survive

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I been playing TF2 for a long time now and I can't recall a single quote from anyone in that game. Yet I recall a lot of quotes from Overwatch, why is that?

Fortnite is shit.
APEX is shit.
R6 is meh.
CS, i was tired of playing CS for years before version 1.0 was even release, let alone GO shit.
QC is best for 30 minutes a day max.
Paladins is ok, but its just weaker version of Overwatch.

>strong

its going, but..

>strong
don't kid yourself

>the Yea Forums who cried dead
yeah, whatever. Call me when it's actually dead.
>inb4shill
Haven't played Overwatch since 2017, but keep making assumptions.

>Yet I recall a lot of quotes from Overwatch
like what, because all of them are just generic "we need to work together!/let's do our best!" generic shit.

Go to sleep Jeff

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my favorite lucio line is "HAHA EAT MY FUNNY MEME CEREAL"

>35k concurrent, 65k peak
and thats after 12 years
im willing to bet Overwatch will be fully abandoned by 2020

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Are you playing with your sound off or something?
I don't feel like shitposting about OW but TF2 has a lot of great lines.
youtube.com/watch?v=bzZ6GrRTgrM

Smites only good for fapping to Neith and old Nu Wa

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You are not a Jew with connections

is the Gorilla gay yet?

OW is just rockpaperscissors the fps. It'd be alot better if you kept some ult after switching heroes.

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35k is pretty small for TF2
You'd know that if you weren't 12 years late to the party zoomer

Heh someone its funny watching people find out how shitty of a company blizzard is these days. On the other hand someone save overwatch. Seriously it can't die, I need more porn.

>Why is Blizzard so slow to develop games?
Overwatch was developed very quickly, since they screwed up years of development of TITAN.

The actual reason for slow pipeline - is that everyone expects perfect polish from Blizzard, and they mostly deliver: their games are in other league compared to most other devs. This is achieved by cutting a lot of content, scraping stuff and starting again and overall demanding creation process.

That said, Blizzard is losing reputation startin with Diablo 3 - while the game had their expected polish and quality, it was not the game fans waited for. Can't say about WOW, since don't play it - but Blizzard recovered from that fiasco with Hearthstone, Overwatch and HoT. Two of those became major hits and leaders in genre, while HoT failed - but still was game made in very good quality, just failed to find a market.

Not sure about future of Blizzard, but least i am optimistic about Overwatch despite the content desert - the team that created it, still works on it and grown in size. Hopefully whatever "big" they plan will deliver.

And issue with modern blizzard is exactly "investors" and their merge with Activision - they are pushed from behind to earn money, instead of spending time on making games how they want.

And what do you recall from TF2? because all of them are just generic "you suck /I'm the best " generic shit.

>git gut as scout in TF2
>have tons of fun as opposed to any other shooter

This is why I still play TF2.....for fun. Because someday it will be gone.

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35k is great for a 12 year old game
learn to read idiot

it's a twelve years old game and valve pretty much don't give a shit about it anymore
also those numbers are legit unlike the "40 million" for overwatch

>DUDE TWITCH VIEWERS LMAO
2 time esport of the year for 2 consecutive years baby. Overwatch is still standing strong.

>im willing to bet Overwatch will be fully abandoned by 2020
The only way Overwatch will fail, if there will be another Overwatch clone done by someone. Currently theres none aside from Paladins, everyone is on retarded battle royale craze instead.

Fortnite/Apex are not competitors to OW, since its entirely different gameplay. TF3 could be, but not them or other future shooters.

Fans of overwatch want to play " a better overwatch", and not just "other game".

We can only hope

451805882

good one

Maybe if she didn't have a retarded ass name, people would be able to pronounce it.
I know how to pronounce it, so don't give me that "hurr durr you don't know lololol" shit. I know the struggles of having a retarded ass name that no one knows how to pronounce.

>l-learn to read idiot
>i-it's still strong!
pathetic display lad

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Yea Forums has been saying OW is dead for 4 years

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So are they still pumping money into OW League? Will they layoff more employees to fund their fake competitive scene?

I have no shame about my 3k hours in TF2. It was such a lively game with so many fun gamemodes and servers, even if it is shittier these days.

>That said, Blizzard is losing reputation startin with Diablo 3 - while the game had their expected polish and quality, it was not the game fans waited for. Can't say about WOW, since don't play it - but Blizzard recovered from that fiasco with Hearthstone, Overwatch and HoT. Two of those became major hits and leaders in genre, while HoT failed - but still was game made in very good quality, just failed to find a market.
Diablo 3 had their usual quality? What are you smoking? Terrible features, untested game modes, awful writing, voice acting, graphics. Utterly boring skill system with a terrible gear system that ties all your power to a weapon. Balancing around the auction house. Yeah it had all the polish they managed to spit on it the 2 hours before release.

that shit is the definition of a bought award. How does a game with nowhere near the view/playership of League or the insane prize pool of DOTA beat both of them out for that shit? it doesn't make logical sense

I find that funny the game gets like 200k views on their tournament but LITERALLY no big streamers loses views that's suspicion for me. Take CS:GO for example with IEM right now Shroud and Lirik both don't get their normal viewer count. Overwatch is somehow able to generate 200k view out of nowhere.

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Yeah why didn't they make the game fun?

what is/was the problem with Brigitte?

Twitch has little to do with the success of a game and how many people are playing it.

>not playing OW
>not playing shitty on purpose and triggering your teammates into getting angry at you
>not reporting them for toxicity

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Something funny is going on with OWL for sure.

that's not saying much

>this guy
Actual constructive critisism and the reasons for the game stagnating
>Yea Forums
Durr 76 iz gay hurrr based and redpilled i hate videogames anyway durrrr

I dont ever watch anything on Twitch. I watched OWL. Not sure why retards care so much about Twitch at all. People who watch it, dont play the games.

She was OP for a while.

mare sue

this shit is what fucking reminds me why team-based games are a fucking shit genre in modern times. You can literally have some fucko be completely useless and do nothing but feed the enemy team, get 0 kills, and do nothing, and he won't be punished but god forbid you say a few words in chat towards them to vent your frustration.

I feel bad for anybody who still plays games like LoL, DOTA, or Overwatch seriously.

I'm higher level than that guy (on just my main acc, and I've two more)

I stopped caring when they added XP to custom games meaning you can literally afk 24/7 and level up that way which completely devalues the time you put into the game, anyone can get any level just by keeping their PC on without having to actively play the game (and they don't ban people for it which is BS... my levels are legit just for the record)

the real problem with the game isn't GOATS (ranked was always about the FOTM heroes, retards bitching about goats seem to forget the previous bullshit which was just as fucking bad and tedious), it's the lack of regular MMR resets which causes completely imbalanced matches outside of the ranked mode

when player profiles were public, I was able to, with 90%+ success rate, predict the outcome of every game just by checking the profiles of everyone in it (and would just leave when it was obvious the game was forcing a loss)

right now, with private profiles, I can no longer do that meaning I actually have to find out what game I was put into the hard way, resulting in my just getting my 3 weekly arcade boxes and then logging off (forced 50% winrate is real, down from 90%+ when I could check profiles and skip games skewed in my disfavor before they even started)

fuck blizzard, OW used to be good but they ruined it, little by little, every new hero release made the game actually WORSE (and yeah that's starting with ana)

there's too much wrong with the game to fix it atm, only hope is doing what they're planning with WoW, i.e. go classic before all the changes/new shitty heroes/new shitty maps

S

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she's not my wife

To be fair, Blizzard games are really polished when they come out. But it feels like they release 1 game per 2 years. After Overwatch, nothing. That's was 2016, it's 2019 now, THREE FUCKINIG YEARS OF NOTHING. What the hell Blizzard?

some games are fine

the ones where the devs don't care but the game still has a kick function

it's saying enough

>>DPS never started or influenced meta
>what is genji/tracer dive
based retard

Purty gril

Funny how only support characters are OP in Overwatch
Based on what?

It's not considering that both developers are super incompetent and ruined their games with obnoxious choices over the years.

They are working on something "big". Just pray its not actually a unnecessary feature no one cares about, but actual game content when its released (should be withing few months max)

>"I hate the game and Blizzard with passion"
>Overwatch
>best FPS out there
0 effort falseflag.

Blizzard* is dead. All of their games have been run into the dirt. Guess giving lead positions to tolerable sycophants doesn't pay off

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Name a better game.
Oh wait, you cant. 0 effort shitpost

everytime they fucked up something they fixed it back afterward the only complain i'd have is how the cosmetics are shit and grindy but the core gameplay is ok

The new robot hero is a human tranny turned into a robot. Gotta pad it since no normies would fap to robots.

The people who watch competitive games play them mostly dude. I think it's just unrealistic that OW has normal 10-20k viewers and suddenly the game has 200k while nobody literally nobody else loses viewers.

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I watch ShaDowBurn or other comp/best matches on Youtube. Who of the worthy of watching OW pro players even streams regularly to care?

There is Contenders streams when i want to watch some OW.

Not to mention the fact that Bl*zzard bans you for playing fun characters (hanzo) because they aren't meta

>451807736
Poor quality bait

>open video
>15 minutes of complaints of annoying neckbeard
>close video

These youtubers keep saying the game is dead because the ranked/league is shit.

But the real problem is it's just not fun.

You can play casual matches both in casual or competitive style in TF2, Paladins, Smite and other shit and still have a lot fun, but not in Overwatch.

dafran is the only one worth watching and even his streams deteriorated in quality ever since he joined OWL

That's because OW has a matchmaker whose goal is to force a 50% winrate; it never creates even matches, it's programmed to give you a match where you're supposed to lose miserably 50% of the time and a match where you're supposed to steamroll the other team 50% of the time.

Blizzard actually, unironically, think that this is what balanced matchmaking means.

>hurrrrr everything that's not american is retarded by default
how is that single digit iq and the lack of a foreskin treating you?

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DPS characters are literally the easiest characters to play. All you do is point and shoot. No thought required. That's why they're all bad at the game, they never learned how it actually works unlike tanks and supports who have more knowledge of unique interactions beyond point>click

see but in OW you can't solo the entire team no matter how hard you tried due to the low skill ceiling level.

You can't even 1v1 in OW properly without hardcounter bullshit.

desu wow needs him back, and wow needs that design philosophy. overwatch cannot die soon enough

it's fucking unbelievable that they STILL have the same old system that autobans you based on the number of reports, jeff is a fucking imbecile

Never said that, sweetie.

How you play Skyrim so long with no achieves? I have no idea what they are or how you get them but you would imagine you would have a lot more by that point right?

not that guy but I basically use modded Skyrim as a photography simulator for waifus and shit and post them on nexus

Couldn't agree more. I'm always getting banned, getting back up to lvl3-4 endorsement in a week or two, and then getting banned again because some people don't like how I speak and would rather I not type in chat at all unless it's uwu super positive meme nonsense.

Didn't they say that 76 was gay and the symmetra was autistic? This game hit new lows.

you can at really low (gold and below) ratings; basically as long as the other team doesn't coordinate via teamchat, you can solo them

I was referring to the inherent imbalance of every non-competitive match which is what makes the game so miserable (neither wins nor losses feel "right")

profiles are private now so you can't see that any more but this is what a typical match looks like (in arcade or quick play) in terms of player ranking (which can be anything from 1 to 5000 in case you dont play OW)

team A: 2000, 2500, 2200, 3000, 1500, 2100

team B: 3500, 2900, 2800, 3000, 4300, 3100

which team do you think is going to win?

and this is literally what you're going to see, match after match, the numbers might be different but the overall differential will remain the same

>sweetie
You need to go back and get fucked with a kitchen knife

Symmetra was autistic from day one

they randomly flip the gay switch on a new hero whenever they need some good publicity (S76 happened because they felt they needed to counteract the Ellie bullshit)

>people are surprised at this
only gays and trannies left in this since christmas 2017

>Paladins is ok

It all makes sense when you realise that the game itself is just an advertisement for the e-sport.

>obsession with TF2
>nu-Yea Forums

How do I know you weren't here before 2010?

and that the esport itself is bobby's ponzi scheme

Hi please kill yourself along with this game

How did I play 2000h of BF1942 then?

Quake 1-3
Unreal Tournament 99,2k4, 4
ARMA 2
Wolf ET
Titanfall 2
Battlefield 1942, Vietnam, and 2
Counter-Strike
Red Orchestra 2 and Vietnam
etc.

If you want hero shooter then I'd rather play Dirty Bomb or Quake Champions even if QC literally killed a high skill character over an OW faggot crying she was too hard.

zoomers btfo

man he got so defensive over a simple question.

>Reaper sucks
Uh ever since they gave him life leech he's a rapist

>You can only play the same game for so long with no meaningful content updates before it gets boring

This happens when the game has no depth or the community is absolutely shit. Sad thing OW is both. I play Super Turbo and that shit hasn't been updated in 25 years besides gay ports and a spin-off no one plays. There are still a bunch of people playing KoF98 ignoring the updates. Counter-Strike 1.6 is still popular and Quake has a small dedicated community.

Some games just have it while Overwatch is just too shallow.

This is why I don't play most FPS games released recently: forced matchmaking. Team switching faggots will quit out because they don't have friends and will bail if they can see if the random jackholes they got randomly put with may be bad or new at the game.

This is why dedicated servers must remain a thing. Forced matchmaking is such garbage. Team switchers will get pegged on a server and ridiculed for being a shitter. Happened just yesterday, we were getting beat in a series of close matches and one of our guys quit and then rejoined and spectated until he could join the other team. Then we got some fresh players and he eventually rage quit because he was getting butt fucked repeatedly once the natural flow of things shifted.

If you need to team switch so your pee pee doesn't shrink up, you're a shitter and a faggot.

aww fuck, she's a cute

Just played some rounds of Overwatch as hammond and had a blast. There really is no competitor on market for OW right now (though Paladins is fun too)

Reaper is gay next

>But the real problem is it's just not fun.
For you.

I rage on the shit team and matchmaking, but the game itself is immense fun and pay offs at especially great matches and plays of the game are well worth it.

Its fun. Its like retarded little brother of Overwatch with asshuge hitboxes and furry skins. Compared to OW its actually more relaxing, but less intense.

I go play some Paladins when got tired of OW, since it sees majority of its playerbase consists of 12yo kids that cant play at all so its easy to steamroll it. You woudnt believe it, but in comparison OW playerbase are gods of skill and tactical awareness.

>wanting incompetent developers to work on TF2
Are you legitimately retarded?

the real reason forced matchmaking is terrible is that it doesn't incentivize good performance; in fact, it does the opposite

afk 3 matches in a row, your MMR goes down, you get a free win the next 3 as the system adjusts you back up

back in the day, go afk and you'd get kickvoted

who gives a fuck if some roastie that has no business playing skill-based games ends up with a 1% winrate, if you suck you should lose welcome to reality

holy fuck I hate how everything got casualized

Pointless posts. None of the games is current and played actively, nor relevant now. And i played some of them competitively in the past even. Let alone why the hell would i go play CS/Arr/attlefield/Red Orchestra shit if i like the OW gameplay - its entirely different species of the game. Its like telling L4D fan to play Tribes. Only ET is remotaly comparable - and Quake Wars was fun.

UT, i`d love to but its dead and nowadays just deathmatch is boring. There really is no game to challenge OW at all, and i tried even playing obscure TF clones like Virtual Earth.

Give me a japanese/korean/chinese Overwatch clone with even more insane gameplay variety and loli anime girls skins and i`d drop OW in a heartbeat. But theres none.

>Give me a japanese/korean/chinese Overwatch clone with even more insane gameplay variety and loli anime girls skins and i`d drop OW in a heartbeat.
Ah, so you're a weeb tranny who doesn't play FPS

Nice projection. No wonder you cry about Overwatch so much, having nothing to play and spending your time in misery and complaining because it irritates you othershave fun.

>Winston is the only fun character
>he gets shit on by the generic edgelord that's guaranteed in every match
That's when I dropped the game, 2 or so years ago.

>>>/global/rules/11

Winston is amazing character, simple in toolset but requiring you to actually have situational awareness and know how to play. Also play with your team.

Thats the case of "watch some OWL" to see how top winstons play is good advice. Meanwhile Reaper is only played in bronze.

Theres a lot of characters tha "cant kill other characters 1on1" and yet they still kill them all the time, since standing in place and shooting at each other is not all there is to the game.

>UT
I'd actually love to try ctf-face (or my favorite coret) in Overwatch with instant respawn enabled and only the original roster of heroes available

or dom-sesmar (I still can't get over how the mode was dead long before the rest of the game)

with the amount of money blizzard have at their disposal, the maps are absolute and utter garbage

>what do you do on this game
>you queue
>you win a few games
>you lose a few games
>and then what do you accomplish
I'm legitimately shocked that someone would say this sincerely as if it was a problem. It's a video game, you're never going to accomplish anything, the point is to be an actual recreational pastime. The point is to enjoy yourself. What the fuck is this clown world.

They just need to add map editor. Current content starvation woudnt be a problem, if players could make own maps/modes. Community is sufficiently big.

I for one would have wished for Overwatch map with Verticality. The game is not designed for it, but still.

the problem is the game's not fun

Check the comics. Or if those don't count, listen to the voice lines for every merc.

You learn.

Unironically this. If after playing few hours you believe you "mastered" Overwatch, you are a retard. There is insane amount of tricks and tactical knowledge to gain and to continue learn litterally every day.

Maybe in your opinion but the opinion I'm hearing from the video is that there's no progression and there's no acknowledgment. Dude is complaining that there's no leaderboard, no spray or special border for high rank. This is the gayest, most secondary bullshit.

Like if he thinks the game is fun and doesn't like it because of these reasons, dude is a moron.

to quote the emperor of mankind:
about fucking time

I said I quit the game 2 or so years ago fag. Reaper was in every game ever. idc what it's like now, the game was shit then and it's not possible for it be less shit without a change in game director.

LMAO triggering tf2 fags and their dead game move on brainlets then new tf2 is OW no one cares if you agree it is what it is

Actually, its incorrect thinking. First of all - mentality of gamers irreversibly changed, now its normal to expect to be rewarded for gameplay. No matter how you enjoy the core gameplay, there is no reason NOT to motivate you for achivements/persistence/whatever. Old games did not use it not because they were better, but because the game development was stumbling blindly and not discovered to use it effectively back then yet. Instead they had High score.

But you cant convince modern player to care about just beating game record and setting high score. In past - there was direct personal competiton:
- in arcades, where people seen you and your highscore matters
-in FPS, where you played either in LAN-Cafes or on servers with people you knew, and your victory/achievement meant something

Nowadays you play against faceless men you`ll never meat again over internet matchmaking. Your victory is meaningless. Thus its up for game to reward and motivate you, instead of social environment that did it before - as nowadays no one cares "how good you are in fps game" unless you stream.

the thing is, all of those things are there

he has a gold border, that's 500 levels away from platinum which is 500 levels away from diamond (1 level = at least an hour)

there are also in-game achievements and top 500 leaderboards (though you unironically need a phone to be displayed on those) and plenty of things to unlock

the problem is 100% that the game isn't fun but he doesn't just say it because he doesn't want to burn his bridges with blizzard completely

next will be a transexual, screencap it

Be honest and say you don't like the game

Winston always have been amazing and never left meta, meanwhile the only time reaper was relevant was during Beyblade meta, where Ana buffed it.

Nowadays Reaper is just recently buffed from being completely useless as it always was, to somewhat ok (but still useless in competitive). While Winston is stil the top pick. While korean and western Winston OWL top players were real stars, despite the characters accordig to OW haters "requiring no skill"

itt: learn to play

>I go play some Paladins when got tired of OW

I play mystery hero's exclusively and have lots of fun
comp gay bois need to learn how to not take things so seriously B^)

boy I bet you're happy you spent 3 years of your life learning all this info about a game that's going to be dead by the next year!

New hero teaser today. Hopefully its someone flying

winston is designed in such a way that he doesn't require skill to be effective, it's a crutch the game has for retards to be able to contribute so no shit a proplayer can take him to the next level

most heroes played at the highest level come from the "I'm designed for womyn gamers" pool, they're literally made to be effective when used by players who can barely unlock 20% of their potential

Have you been saying "this game is dead!" all those three years?

Every time people claim a game is dead is only by popularity standard annoy me, because "Pokemon GO is dead, lol is dead, tf2 is dead".

like a game lifetime is only decided by how long the popularity is among the normies! cause a this point apex legend is dead in a week.

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apex legends will be dead the moment EA stops paying everyone and their mother to shill it

Balance changes being expected are by far the worst thing to ever happen to games.
That isn't "depth", that isn't "support", that's literally just seasonal change for the sake of change.
>we made balance changes, spend 2 seconds to figure out the new meta which decides who is the new best pick
That's not even balancing to begin with, it's just moving the weight somewhere else, not equalizing it.

People pretending that this is supporting a game long term are idiots too. Instead of changing who you play seasonally, why not make it balanced so you can pick who you want to play whenever.How about adding maps or real content instead of tweaking numbers.

go back to rebbt with this spacing fag and go circlejerk your dying game with all the other faggots gasping on their shitty mercy statues

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This guy sounds like Berd

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Do you only find enjoyment in attacking straw men?

Not even pros believe this

Literally this. As long as I can play the game, it's not dead. I don't need twitchman69 to be online for the game to be alive. I don't need 8 million people either, I need 12.

I actually would rather see the same people. It reminds me of when games used to let you host your own dedicated servers and you'd be able to play with the same group of people regularly and actually have a good time.

What benefit is there in something being popular. It changes nothing for me the player.

I'm dead serious, professional players probably know the least about a game because they're laser focused on specifics and train those exclusively.
>reddit says to play X and use tactic Y, I'm going to do this every match until some random player discovers something I never even considered

5v5/6v6 is easier to force a eSports routine into the game. it is why devs have been pushing this.

You aren't wrong, games should be fun and most still are. Overwatch lacks the content such as gameplay or stuff to do though, instead it has lootboxes and seasonal events that you work towards.
Its probably having these in the game, that installs this feeling of "working towards" something, a skin, an emote or whatever. When people have done all of it, they are left with the same gameplay and awful team building, the core of Overwatch. Which isn't good.

Literally blame consoles.

>Only needs 12 people
>Every match is a complete stomp and you can tell which team wins by looking at which names are on which team
>Since the outcome is known before the match even begins, it's not really a game and those last 12 stop playing
congrats on your dead game.

Or, less literally:
>few thousand players
>MM takes upwards of 5 minutes
>Game hemorrhages players because they're sick of waiting in Q
>Q times become even longer, causing more players to fall off, causing longer Q times, causing...
Congrats on your dead game.

yup, FPS as a genre is at its best when everyone's "hero" is at the same base power level

what games like OW do is designed to cater to casuals... can't beat someone in an even fight??? pick a hero that'll shit on theirs! whatever happened to "git gud"

>literally mad because bad
LMAO

>whatever happened to "git gud"
Matchmaking happened. What incentive is there to get better when the only thing to look forward to are more difficult games? Nothing kills fun like level scaling.

I need sauce on that fox. For a friend, obviously.

Your mistake is thinking of OW as a FPS. It's always been more of a strategy game. Precision aim and twitch reflexes aren't meant to be enough by design. Switching chars is a part of "gitting gud"

back to the fucking kitchen

didn't mean to rain on your parade sweetie
maybe when your done throwing your tantrum you can head back to the early 00's when you were a hot shit, it's clear you miss it.

NEEDA DISPENCA HEAR

Not that user but the mentioned problem with "balance" changes apply to more than just FPS. As evidenced by OW.

God I wish that was me.

and make me a fucking sandwich

>OW is dead because there are no streamers
Nice logic, underage.

Laziness arisen from the mountains of cash they got from Hearthstone.

>ow is a FPS
loling @ ur life

You forgot about d.va and monkey.

Wtf I hate tf2 now

OW used to be so fun idk what the fuck happened or when it stopped being fun. I used to play this shit for hours with the boys and now I can barely stand to play during seasonal events.

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who's that cutie?

the game is dead there is a reason all your friends stopped playing and why you are the only one who still plays you autist, blizzard is shit overwatch is shit there are better games worth your time stop defending this shitty game made by a shit greedy company MOVE ON

>OW used to be so fun idk what the fuck happened or when it stopped being fun.
the lame ego stroking wore off

>game has less players than it dead 3 years ago but still enough of a player base that it's able to run a pretty successful e-sports league with a large following
>"dead"

I don't get it.

Funny how the most fun mods are solo death match and mystery heroes. Almost makes you think.

OWL's a failure, Jeff. It's time to resign.

Really doubt anyone is actually watching OWL, it's mostly viewbots and autists that have it muted on a different tab so they can farm league tokens

I am gonna watch OWL today again, and it`ll be 3AM for me. Keep seething.

then it'll have 1 real viewer, a new record

Might as well buy 100 loot boxes while you're at it, maybe the money will help blizzard push out faster and more quality updates like you thought it would when the game first released

Hope you're eating Lucio Ohs while wearing your favorite team jersey autist

So when did you guys quit? For me it was when Doomfist came out of PTR

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TL;DR? Is it just that it got boring with no meaningful new content? Because that already happened for me a year ago so I don't know why it took everyone else that long

brb gonna to roll over your dead corpses with Hammond

I hate having to rely on my team, does that make me a bad player?

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need's Feed and Seed, Formerly Chuck's

overwatch isnt fun

I stopped playing after they nerfed roadhog and killed him. Hooking people and killing supports in a single shot was hella fun, now you need several direct hits and his heal is shit

>Gets his job by being an asshole to Devs of a game he plays
>Works for a company that literally bans anyone for criticising their games

Pottery

the retard youtuber fails to realize the only thing that matters is that top streamers are playing. when they got rid of their top viewcount niggers because they weren't being pc blizzard literally shot themselves in the foot

>play for 5000 hours
>never "improve"
>profile shows you never improve

i mean yeah id make fun of you too if you played for that long and so no improvement. that just means your bad.

This is what happens when you support first person shoots that make bank off of cosmetic items that you can't fucking see until you die.

you can see the guns (in fact, you have to see them because the retarded "esports-ready" game doesn't let you hide them)

on the first ever free weekend. i was hoping it would be the new smnc, but it was a shallow piece of shit with pretty graphics and nothing else going for it

>Mercy rework has her Mained in every game for months
>nerf Roadhog to shit
>Brig comes out busted AND counters every character I play
Fuck this game, the balance makes it a chore to play.

>ad upfront
>ad at the end
>like 5 mid-roll ads
>15 minute video
>complaining about views on his videos
no way fag

>not using adblock
??????????

i have easily 8k across 2 accounts and i wish you could fucking scrub that shit off these days
game is more ruined every big update and i never wana touch it again or remember i played that shitty misanthropy simulator

The biggest issue at the moment is their hypocritical pandering

"oh look, S76 is gay, we are so progressive"
"oh shit we have lost players, quick make some sexy skins for tracer & mercy to get straight men back"

Like fuck you, add some proper gameplay changes instead of just skins

Overwatch is fucking boring, theres shield heroes in literally every matches
It would be fun if there wasnt a forced meta

>gameplay changes
these wouldn't fit into a lootbox

I mean why are peopel surprised that they stop having fun playing a game after 2000 hours
The game only costs 40 bucks. I played it for the first few months and stopped playing it after i started having less fun and i still think i got more than enough value out of it

my husbandos got buffed so I'm still enjoying the game a lot

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good goy

The death of community servers made me lose interest in the game. It's a shell of what it was imo

There is some truth in that.
OW was designed for heroes to be switched on the fly so that you adjust to the situation. Heroes where kept rather simple by design because of that.
But people started maining heroes and playing them always in every situation and started complaining that some were just too situational.
Now every hero needs to be made in a way that they are always kinda viable which leads to fixed teamcomps for the whole game

Isn't moira literally that?
I mean sure not completely, but she literally has a David Bowies skin and her whole identity revolves about the whole duality thing

> getting better
> at Overwatch
lel

When they started rehashing events for the 3rd time even when Jeff said we'd get something new after 2 years.

It's a genderbent skin of a character, but everyone treats it as a new character because they decided to market it like that.

austism

you didn't even watch did you