How tf is this a seinen? A Silent Voice and Komi Can't Communicate aren't seinen, so why is Kaguya?

How tf is this a seinen? A Silent Voice and Komi Can't Communicate aren't seinen, so why is Kaguya?

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Probably because Shonen Jump's standards are too high for this garbage.

Seinen means 'boy aged between teenager and middle age'. This is the primary target demographic of the material.
This designation has nearly nothing to do with the actual content of the work.

Ok but how is Kaguya-sama not viable for the Shonen demographic?

Ok but how? Kaguya is more in line with A Silent Voice and Komi Can't Communicate than Sono Bisque Doll and Miss Kobayashi's Dragon Maid.

Once you grow up you'll learn to stop giving a shit about something as meaningless as manga demographics.

Its stays at the lowest of intellectually stimulating. Its kind of like watching a bunch of small chess matches. Its engaging to a idea of "in what way are they going to prod eachother to do something that results in a metaphorical defeat" and that keeps it in a teenage to adult demographic despite being a shit school romance comedy.

Oh also forgot to mention they have sex and you get to see the exact aftermath, not really a shonen thing.

It's not like there's a lack of juvenile seinen stuff around, even when it comes to "mature" themes.

Death Note is way more intellectually stimulating, and that's a shonen.

Well, there's Cowboy Bebop.

Which also should have been a Shonen.

Midwit post

that's like asking why is SZN shonen demographic, even though teens might not get the great vast majority of the jokes

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The same way K-On and Non Non Biyori are seinen.

I mistook shonen for something else, I apologize.
Caught me, I incorrectly explained it without research and was wrong. I honestly do look like that right now, but I dont mean it like that. I just came across like it.

Oh, you mistook shonen for kodomo I guess.

Yeah, obviously Kaguya's not a kodomo.

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FPBP

I mean, considering there are people who mistake One Piece, MHA, Yugioh, and HxH for kodomo...

Why the fuck does it matter whether a series is seinen or shounen? That means target demographic, it means absolutely nothing about the quality of the work itself.

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Yeah that's what I mistook it for, thanks for the heads up.

Because it was published in a seinen magazine.

Cowboy Bebop was an anime original, manga demographics don't apply to those.

>Death Note is way more intellectually stimulating
Sure if you're a midwit.

I HATE Kaguya.

Not because it's bad. It's nothing special IMO, but it's alright. I hate it because it's basically the new SAO. You know how after SAO came out every anime studio wanted to ride the isekai wave? That's exactly what Kaguya did for romcoms.

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I'm new to this. So from what I'm getting from this thread:
>LoTR would be considered shonen
>Book of the New Sun would be considered seinen
Is that a good way of telling the two demographic categories apart? It isn't a quality distinguisher - more the sort of content and themes addressed within the work?

I'd argue the romcom boom started with Your Name.

It's purely age demographic, nothing more.

LoTR: Shonen

Twilight: Shojo

Game of Thrones: Seinen

Fifty Shades: Josei

Can we get another zombie "wave" please?

You simply tell the demographic categories apart by the age range the publisher is targeting. It's pointless to separate them by content and themes because there are shonen with mature content and themes and there are seinen with childish content and themes. They're not very useful categories outside of marketing purposes.

Fifty Shades would just be hentai, let's not pretend it's anything other than porn.

>Twilight
>Fifty Shades

Actually, their demographic would just be "retards"

This thread is fucking stupid and makes me very annoyed with how many idiots don't even know shounen and seinen are demographics, not review scores.

I actually lol'd, thanks user

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You mean genres. Ie they think its genres.

>Shoen Jump
>standards

That's a good one, user.

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Fifty Shades: hentai

Twilight: instead of an age demographic, it gets an IQ demographic. Anyone with an IQ over 80 should avoid it.

Age demographics are roughly IQ demographics too.

So Twilight would be a kodomo?

the words shonen/shounen and seinen should be filtered. they only invite retarded discourse.

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This board has became so shit that I honestly can't tell if this thread and all the morons in it are bait or not

Twilight would be kodomo, not shojo.

Shojo would be like the John Green and Sarah Dessen books.

Only jokingly, but I have heard of 12 year olds being fans of it.

You have to be at least 18 to post here

Because the author wrote the pilot chapter for a Seinen magazine and that magazine thought their Seinen audience would enjoy it, so they greenlit it. It's not really any deeper than that.

>actually believing these “demographics” to exist
They're assigned by book store and review websites, mostly outside of Japan but also somewhat inside of it, not chosen by magazines and it's super arbitrary what magazine is assigned what at time, and not consistently between different book stores either.

People don't actually believe Japan has some kind of registry wherein every single piece of media has to declare it's gender and age demographic by law, right?

Ninibros....

>implying Twilight is not your average LN when gender swapped

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Gender demographics don't mean shit.

For example, Sailor Moon's fanbase is majority male, despite being a shojo, while Demon Slayer's fanbase is majority female, despite being a shonen.

Really?

Demon Slayer I can see, but source on S.M. being majority male?

Even shit LNs are better than Twilight.

>comparing kaguya to silent voice
you lost me

why are demographicfags so retarded?

Maybe a small majority, but that's because the vast majority of people who watched anime in the 90s were dudes. So you can't compare SM to Demon Slayer; they're two completely different eras. And there certainly were way more female SM fans relative to things like DBZ and Yugioh, which were almost 100% dudes.

90s anime was a different beast. Shonen back then was very different than Shonen today - DBZ was literally a testosterone fest, pretty much the anime equivalent of a Sylvester Stallone or Bruce Willis film.

Hell, things like A Silent Voice and Komi, which are considered Shonen today, probably would have been classified as Shojo back then.

>which are considered Shonen today
That's because they're in fucking shounen magazines.

I miss the 90s, back when guys were guys and girls were girls.

>How tf is this a seinen?

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I remember there being a male in secondary school who watched a lot of Gundam and S.M.; we honestly never in the class even thought to think of it in terms of gender or “anime”; we simply thought Sailor Moon was a very silly cartoon because the character's skirt was hilariously short.

I know, because they were written in the 2010s.

Had they been written 20 years earlier, Shonen Jump would have laughed them out of the room.

Now post a page from DomeKano.

This

And almost none of those magazines will have claimed to be and it's simply third party outlets that assign these labels based on their own need to compulsively classify, more so inside than outside of Japan.

>t. has never heard of Kimagure Orange Road
Hell, Bonbonzaka Koukou Engekibu from the mid nineties is just a wackier Komi-san, but it was still in WSJ.